CJ Pearson on Jubilee Debate: “They Don’t Want This Conversation”| DSH #1772

Then all these folks saying, oh, President Trump is waging a war on black America by sitting

in the National Guard to cities like Memphis and Chicago.

No, no, he's waging a battle to save black America.

Because this proportionally in all of those cities, you know who was being shot down and killed?

Black Americans. And so, no, he is not waging any war on people of color.

He is saving people of color by actually giving a damn about them,

which the left demonstrably shows each and every opportunity they get.

They do not care about us in any way whatsoever.

Okay, guys, here are the good friends, CJ Pearson.

Thanks for coming, brother.

Thanks for having me.

Good to see you as always.

I actually just saw your debate on Jubilee.

Yeah.

With Parker, right?

Parker.

Yeah.

How do you think that one?

I think it went well.

You know, I think the interesting thing about Parker, I will say behind the scenes,

very sensible guy, very agreeable.

Definitely is not who he is on TikTok, which is interesting to me.

But I think it goes to show that when you, these liberal commentators actually debate people

who actually know about politics and not just random people in their TikTok lives.

Yeah.

They get a little bit exposed, you know, oftentimes we would be debating about immigration

or whatever, and he would make it about Trump and sexual assault and all these things,

which are so interesting to me because I thought the question was about immigration.

But of course, you know, many people on the left don't want to talk about immigration

because they know it's a losing issue.

And the reason it's a losing issue is because no one wants what happened to Lincoln Riley

to happen ever again.

And it's hard to defend that.

The idea that an illegal alien can break into our country,

stalk and pray upon a young innocent girl like Lincoln Riley,

and we're just supposed to be okay with that.

I'm not okay with that.

The American people are not okay with that.

And President Trump is not okay with that.

And he ran on fixing that problem.

And the American people stand behind him.

And it's not going to be, you know, a few videos of ice doing their job.

It's not going to change that in any way whatsoever.

I feel like the classic debate tactic they use is to always go to Trump's essay allegations.

Always.

That's like their Trump card.

Always.

It's just, it's so tired, you know, for me,

because I look at it and I'm like looking at what happened in New York.

That was a jury of New York City progressives,

who obviously would have convicted him for jaywalking.

And so it's just, it's not important.

And I think obviously, you know, the American people

looked at those allegations.

They were aware of them.

And the American people decided that they weren't worth the,

the salt that they were, you know, held up on.

Yeah.

I really liked the format.

I think it was the first time I've seen it with the timers.

Yeah, it was the first episode of that.

And I enjoyed that because I think it forces you to listen to other

side.

I think oftentimes in debates, you know, you're just interrupting

inside of each other and oftentimes,

because you're just ready to get that next point out or ready to interrupt.

You're not listing.

Yep.

And it forced you to listen.

And so it was, it was a really cool format.

I like that they're, it also fixes the time dynamic.

Because sometimes someone takes over a debate too.

Right.

Yeah.

And I think that's a, you know, what a lot of these progressive folks

on TikTok do is that they just like love to interrupt.

They love to interrupt.

And it's because it's only know how to do

because they don't actually have anything to stand on.

And anyway, whatsoever.

So it was, it was a really cool thing to be a part of.

Absolutely, man.

We actually met through turning points.

So it's just crazy to see what Charlie's built

and all the connections we both made.

That assassination really shaped you either.

Yeah, no, it's, it's incredible to be here

with 30,000 patriots from all across the country.

And honestly, probably the world as well.

And, you know, I knew Charlie since I was 12 years old.

When I made my first YouTube video ever,

Charlie found it.

He DM me on Twitter when I was still in middle school

and he said, Hey, CJ, keep up the good work.

I love what you're doing.

And if you are available, come to our high school conference.

And I had to tell Charlie, I said, Charlie, I'm in middle school.

So I can't come unless you're going to give me a waiver.

And so he was like, you're good, you're good to go.

And so Charlie was always incredibly supportive of me.

I considered him a very, very dear friend.

And I think that it's so important for us to all carry the torch.

And I think it's important for us to unite.

You know, what we have unfortunately seen

over the course of the past 48 hours here in Phoenix

has been a kin of real housewives of Atlanta

is frankly getting ghetto.

And I just, I'm anti-ghetto all across the board.

I think that instead of actually going on that stage

and bashing one another,

we should be talking about America.

And the issues that are on the forefront

of the mental of the American people,

which is affordability.

It's about keeping America safe,

making America stronger.

Those are the things that are going to keep our country great.

And that's the things that are going to keep

electing Republicans down the line.

100% agree, bro.

Everyone's calling each other out on stage.

I'm at James O'Keefe party.

There's like two fights.

It's like, it's crazy.

I know, it's literally real housewives of Atlanta here.

It's crazy not.

So this should be happening on the left, not the right.

Right, exactly.

And it's frankly embarrassing.

And I'm like, you know, as a 23-year-old,

it's so weird to me to have to tell folks

that are twice my age to grow up,

but seriously grow up.

Like it's just so silly to me.

The American people are going through, you know,

trying times.

And President Trump is working incredibly hard

to fix those wrongs.

And of course, the terrible policies

and agenda of the Biden administration

and the incredible harm

that he brought upon our country.

But we have to focus on them.

They don't want to hear about our bitter

infighting and random drama.

They want to hear about the solutions

that are going to make their lives easier.

Absolutely.

Speaking of Trump, how have you felt so far

in a second administration?

I feel great.

I don't think we've ever been more back.

I think this president is doing exactly what he ran on,

which is securing our border,

making America safe again,

and making it secure for everyone.

You know, it's a shame that in certain cities

across America, it was akin to a third world country.

And of course, you have liberals

and all these folks saying,

oh, President Trump is waging a war on Black America

by sitting in the National Guard

to cities like Memphis and Chicago.

No, no, he's waging a battle to save Black America.

Because this proportionally in all of those cities,

you know who was being shot down and killed?

Black Americans.

And so, no, he is not waging any war on people of color.

He is saving people of color

by actually giving a damn about them,

which the left demonstrably shows

each and every opportunity they get

that they do not care about us.

In any way whatsoever.

Absolutely.

What do you feel like the biggest threat is right now?

Do you think it's the left?

Do you think it's Islam?

Do you think it's something else?

I think it's the biggest threat is our,

is our selves right now, unfortunately.

The division within our party,

the division within our movement

is so self-destructive.

And again, not to, you know,

beat a dead horse, but we have to grow up.

We have to unite about, you know,

around our common ideals.

And Charlie was, that should be his legacy.

He was such a united.

He would bring, you know,

warring coalitions of people together

and say, hey, we all love this country.

We all love America.

So let's do all that we can

to make America great again.

And that's what we should continue to channel,

continue to fight for, continue to advocate for.

And I think that when we do unite,

we can focus on what?

We're probably the second biggest threat

to our country right now,

which is the left's unending, you know,

agenda to try to undermine

the fundamentals of this country.

They hate free speech.

They hate tolerance.

They hate diversity when it comes to actual ideals.

They love diversity when it comes to gender,

sexuality, and all of these things.

But God forbid you have a diverse opinion.

That is when they want to cancel you.

That's when they want to end your life.

That's when, you know,

the rubber meets the road and it

exposes them as a surrogens that they are

when it comes to these very important issues.

Yeah. Did his death really inspire you?

Did it scare you?

What, walk me through your emotions?

You know, at first I was scared,

but I realized I didn't have time to be scared

because I think that we have a country to save

and I think that there is such urgency right now

in doing all that we can.

To fight to ensure that, you know, I'm 23,

but one day I will have kids

and I want to make sure they inherit a country

just as great as the one that my grandparents lived in.

Just as great as one of my parents lived in.

It's exactly what Charlie would have wanted.

And so I think that we cannot allow ourselves

to live in fear.

We cannot allow ourselves to coward

because it's exactly what that assassin wanted us to do.

He wanted us to mute ourselves.

He wanted us to go into the shadows and say,

I'm not wearing my MAGA hat anymore.

I'm not going to proclaim that I love my country,

that I love my God.

But no, just no.

We're not going to allow these people

to allow us to self-cancel ourselves

because that, again, would be disrespectful

to the life that Charlie led.

For sure.

You're 23, how do you feel about the Gen Z generation?

Do you feel like they're good hands?

I think we're going to be one of those conservative generations

the country has ever seen.

We grew up at a time of cancel culture.

We're over it.

We think it's frankly bullshit.

I think when you look at other issues too,

you got to think, you know, in 2020,

I had my graduation rob for me because of COVID-19.

I had my prom rob for me because of COVID-19.

We went through these draconian tyrannical policies

and we saw big government in action

and just how harmful it can be.

And we're done with it.

And so we're done living in the shadows.

We're done cowering.

And so I think it's going to be an incredible shift

in a way that we've never seen before.

In the 2024 election, we saw the youth vote

from 18 to 30 swing 20 points in our direction.

That is huge.

Harry Sissin couldn't stop it.

You know, his colleagues on the left,

Olivia Julianna, none of those people could stop it.

Why?

Because our generation sees through them

for the charlatans that they are,

for the inauthentic shills that they are as well.

Have you converse with Harry yet?

You know, I've talked to Harry.

And I look forward to debating Harry.

But I think he's a little scared and I understand why.

Because when he's not getting, you know,

fed the DNC talking points that pay his bills

and that, you know, help him stay housed,

then he just absolutely has nothing to stand on.

So I would actually, you know,

reinvite him to engage in that discourse.

Try to set that up a debate.

Let me know.

I'll go anywhere any day and eight times.

I'm happy to do it.

Either we can debate or we can box one of the two.

I'm okay with that.

He brought you up last time I had him on in New York.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you want to box him or did he want to box me?

You wanted to box me.

Okay.

And he got you up.

I'm actually with him.

Now you're looking a little bigger.

So yeah, right.

Yeah.

No, maybe Jake Paul will train me

and I don't really know anyone that is on the left

and does anything like that.

So maybe Olivia Juliana can train him.

She seems to know her way around.

I know everyone's roasting Jake right now,

but the man just made $90 million.

I think I would break my draw for $90 million.

Exactly on.

So he is a businessman in a league of his own.

Yeah.

I can't believe like people,

like do you even respond to haters?

Cause I know you get a ton too.

No, like it's just, it doesn't matter.

It's all noise.

I think that we've got to be focused on the mission

and the work.

There's this new technology floating around

that people cannot stop talking about.

It's called the light system.

Before you roll your eyes,

it's not some gadget you strap on

or supplement that promises the world.

Every once in a while,

I come across something that actually stops me in my tracks

and the light system is one of those things.

This isn't a supplement.

It's not a biohack.

It's a full on energy environment

built to help your mind and body synchronize,

recharge and operate at a higher level.

It uses light patterns, color frequencies

and coherent energy fields.

All the stuff that your body naturally responds to

to create a coherent, energetic field around you.

People are saying they feel more clear,

more centered, more alive in their environment

and honestly, the science behind it is fascinating.

As I've seen a lot of wellness tech,

but the numbers coming out on this new study

of the light system are actually insane.

Researchers measured human chic cells

before and after sitting in front of the system

and get this.

A 30 minute session boosted cellular conductivity

by 61%, the study even showed increased conductivity

in isolated DNA, which is associated with stronger structure

and better repair pathways.

The result, more clarity, more balance and more alignment.

You could say $500 now if you go to the lightsystems.com

and use discount code Sean.

And everything else just works itself out.

At the end of the day, I always think about

that Teddy Roosevelt speech about being in the arena.

You're always gonna have people shouting at you

from the sidelines who aren't courageous enough

to stand up for themselves and stand up and fight for our country.

And you just got to ignore it.

And you've got to realize that to be in this fight,

to be in this movement, it has to be a calling from God.

These are a lot of easier things that you can do.

That don't get you death threats,

that don't get you hand-sold online

and don't get you, you know, meritless hate.

And but the reason that we all do it

is because we love this country

and we believe it's worth fighting for.

Any new hit pieces on you, I know the New York.

I'm sure they're coming.

The New York magazine one was pretty interesting.

It was incredible, you know.

Of course, you know, we threw a pretty iconic inauguration party

where they accused me of throwing an all-white party.

Every day I look in the mirror and I'm like, damn,

am I getting, do I need to start self-taning?

I don't know what's going on because apparently I was a white man.

But no, I think the reason the New York magazine

wrote that deceptive hit piece

was because they realized just how diverse the mega movement

truly is.

You see young black men running to the Republican party now

because of President Trump.

You see women coming over to our side.

You see Jews coming over to our side

because of course, it seems as if everyone on the left

just wants them dead and it's quite unfortunate.

And so I think we really truly create

a diverse coalition of people and that scares the left

because if they can't control black people,

they can't control minorities,

their grip on power in this country

absolutely completely erodes.

And so I would be scared if I were them,

but we've been able to turn into an incredible thing.

And we've thrown even more parties since then

or the July, we partner a soldier boy

through a big one there, Rick Ross for Halloween,

maybe Nicki Minaj for the next one.

Let's go.

Yeah, we're all Barbs these days.

She's Magnaw, right?

She is Magna.

And I think it goes to show,

I was always excited about what was happening

with young black men, right?

Because I think that if you can save the hearts and minds

of black men and you can save the hearts and minds

of the black family because the black community

is very evangelical, very traditional.

And black men are still viewed as the head of their households.

And so I think if we start there, the rest will follow.

But now what we're seeing is a crack within

the left's grip on black women,

which is a very loyal constituency

for those on the Democrat side.

When you have Nicki Minaj now calling out the left

for trainsing children and mutilating the generals

of little kids, they should be very, very scared.

Yeah, that's huge.

Black families have interesting stats

on the fatherless households, right?

Yeah.

And I forget the exact numbers,

but it's the worst in the country.

It's troubling.

And I think it's incredibly disruptive,

but it's all by design.

If you look at the great society from folks like FDR

and LLBJ and the entitlement programs that they created,

it was meant to create a black community

that would be dependent upon the government

for their salvation, their safety,

and replace the black father with Uncle Sam,

which is not good for black folks.

Yeah.

If you have more of an incentive to be a baby mama

than to be a contributing member of society,

then that is how we break our country.

And so I'm glad to see that we're having this return

to agency.

There is no reason that you should be on food stands

for all of your life.

There's no reason that you should be on government programs

for all of your life.

There meant to be a safety net, not a safety jacket,

straight jacket that you can never take off

and never remove.

We got to end the cycle of dependency

and victim in this country for sure.

Do you think bringing more Christianity

into the mix would help that?

I think it's big and we're seeing an incredible return

to the church among young people, Gen Z especially,

which is incredibly great to see.

We're seeing young people clinging towards tradition again,

looking for that.

And so I think it's great to see

and I think Charlie would be very, very proud.

I actually agree, I'm not even Christian though.

I just think those values will help overall.

The thing is about Christianity,

you don't even have to be a Christian.

It's just some of the things that you read in the Bible

are just a way to lead a good life.

Be honest, don't be envious, don't kill, don't steal.

All those things are just universal truths

that serve you well, whether or not you're a Christian or not

and it's a lot to see folks embracing that.

I know you got a new pod now, right?

Family Matters?

Yeah, so we're hosting the Family Matters podcast

which is incredible.

Platform and the voices that oftentimes

are left is so desperate to ignore.

Of course, we saw an incredible swing

from the black community towards the right.

We want to continue to sustain that.

And so each every week we sit down

with diverse voices from across the movement

and talk about the issues that are shaping our country.

A lot of the conversations that are happening

in black barber shops, a lot of conversations

that are happening in living rooms and all those things.

And we're super excited about it.

And so I saw a few, I think you dropped a few on YouTube,

right?

I watched a couple, it's crushing it, so congrats.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Yeah, anything else you want to close off with, Ma?

I think you covered it all, but let Harry know

whenever he wants to step in the octagon, I'm ready.

I'll text him, bro.

Yeah, it's your brother.

Good to see you, he was always so much up.

Check him out, my guys.

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