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In this episode, we explore Anthropic's recently released Claude Co-Work and Dispatch features, which allow Claude to control your computer's mouse, keyboard, and screen for automation. We look at the practical applications, setup process, and potential for streamlining repetitive tasks, noting both its current speed limitations and future potential as a powerful automation tool.
Chapters
00:00 Anthropic's Latest Releases
01:55 Claude Co-Work & Dispatch Explained
04:09 Setting Up and Initial Impressions
06:56 Creating and Saving Skills
08:24 Recommendations and Use Cases
11:23 Developer vs. No-Coder Perspectives
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Welcome to the podcast.
I'm your host, Jane Schaefer.
Today on the podcast, guys, I gotta cover what's going down
with Anthropic.
They have released so much.
In fact, people are saying they're completely changing
everything that OpenAI is doing.
There's a release schedule from Anthropic,
because OpenAI recently just announced that they're shutting
down Sora, their video model for good,
and people are confused about it.
And all signs basically point back to Anthropic
and how much ground they have gained with white collar
and productivity work.
And their revenue is absolutely insane,
as more and more people are using them
to basically power their whole businesses and companies.
So I wanna talk about the most recent update
that Anthropic did.
Two days ago, they released a computer use on Clawed Co-Work,
which essentially if you're using Clawed,
there's three different tabs, the chat,
the co-work, and the Clawed Code.
Personally, I'm not a developer,
so I don't use the Clawed Code,
although I probably should figure out how to use that more.
But yesterday, I spent basically the entire day
working with Clawed Co-Work.
If you haven't used it before,
I'm gonna talk about some of the best ways
to get used to use it some of the best frameworks,
what it can do, what it can't do,
and a lot of the updates.
Now, one of the things that I'm really excited about
with all of this is that if you wanna try
the latest versions of these AI models,
whether that's Clawed, or OpenAI, or Google, or Grock,
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build automations, so you don't have to sit there
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The website is AIbox.ai, you describe the tool you'd like to build,
and we'll automatically chain AI models together,
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So it's linked in the description,
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So, wait cheaper than $20 for 20 of these different subscriptions.
Okay, Clawed Co-Work.
The thing that a lot of people have been super excited about
is Felix Riesenberg two days ago said,
today we're releasing a feature that allows Clawed
to control your computer mouse, keyboard, and screen,
giving it the ability to see any app.
I believe this is especially useful if used with dispatch,
which allows you to remotely control your computer
while you're away.
So, two features here, and both of them I've tried,
both of them are impressive.
Dispatch essentially is, and all this stuff, by the way,
you might not see if you're using Clawed,
but it's in your settings.
So, the first thing with this particular use
is that it is for, when they first rolled it out,
it was for Mac, but I think just today, a couple hours ago,
they added it for Windows as well.
So, everyone should be able to get access to this.
You have to download, I downloaded the,
the specific Clawed app for my Mac.
So, it's not like on the website or the web browser.
This has to be the app, because it is taking control
of your computer.
So, you're going to go into the settings,
and you're going to want to toggle on Clawed co-work,
and also you're going to want to go and toggle on dispatch.
Now, dispatch is a particularly useful feature
that essentially allows it to sync up to your phone.
So, if your computer's open,
and I just have my computer set to,
if it is plugged in, not to go to sleep,
and so, I could be a way somewhere far away,
and Clawed can be essentially working remote.
Essentially, it takes over my computer screen
and can do literally anything I want it to do.
And then, with my phone, if I'm like,
let's say I'm at the grocery store,
I can open my phone up, see what it's working on,
and chat with it and say, hey, now can you please do XYZ?
Basically, I think this is Clawed's response to Open Claw,
which, by the way, I also tried to set up,
what I did set up Open Claw as well the day before.
It is complex.
I don't want to sound too dumb here or something,
but it's kind of tricky.
It takes a while to set up.
You're going to want to watch a lot of tutorials
if you're not a developer.
Clawed code is much harder to get set up,
and it doesn't have a lot of the cool user interfaces.
There's just a lot to set up,
where, in my opinion, if you're the average,
maybe a white collar person,
or you're working in a company,
you want to kind of be on the cutting edge,
this is huge.
Now, what I will say is it is completely
taking control of your computer screen,
and it is sort of slow, especially right now,
and they even admit this in their like post,
he said, we will work.
This will work with both Clawed Co-Work
and Clawed Desktop app.
You can use it to click all of the buttons
and a legacy app that you'd like to automate,
or use it to help you debug a native app you're working on.
It's slow, but giving Clawed any mouse
and keys is so exciting to me.
That's what Felix said about this.
He's over at Anthropic.
So, it's slow is an understatement.
It feels kind of like it's honey, if I'm being honest,
so I'm not going to over-hype this and say,
like it's zooming around clicking.
The speed will increase inevitably,
but for the time being, I think I just
trying to be really careful and make it slow.
So, why do I bring that up?
It's a very useful tool,
because you can essentially chat with it
and get it to do a whole thing.
So yesterday, I had it generating scripts
for a project I'm working on.
I had it going and logged into different websites,
generating content.
I had it going to AI Box, my own website,
and running boxes on AI Boxes
and grabbing the output of those boxes.
I actually found that was one of the best ways
to use it was basically to build an automation
or like a tool on AI Box.
And then give it a whole project,
but when it came to the content generation,
instead of trying to manually give it a huge prompt,
where it had to add that into its steps,
it's just one of the steps was,
go to this box, this link box on AI Box,
generate these inputs, and then grab that
and move it to the next part of our project.
I then had it literally opening up
and editing videos on CapCut.
So I just told it like, hey, on my computer,
there's a video editor called CapCut, open that up,
pull this file in, pull that file in,
and start editing it in this way and that.
Now, what I will say is that again,
not very fast, like you got a lot of the work done,
but like if you sit there and watch it,
sometimes it can feel painful because it's like,
I am opening up CapCut.
Now I am searching for the new project button
and then it says like 20 things back and forth
for like three minutes.
It's like, okay, I'm clicking on it.
And you're like, oh my gosh, it's so slow.
But so here's where I think that this is pretty useful.
Number one is, it took me basically all day
to kind of chat back and forth with it
and get it to figure out how to do this whole project,
this whole workflow.
I mean, to be fair, probably would save me two hours a day
and it's actually something that I have,
it's something that I have an employee working on.
But it's something that will probably take two hours a day.
It took me, I don't know, the better part of four hours,
not of like constantly chatty,
but I'd like send a message,
I'd be working on something on my other computer
and then like 10 minutes later,
I'd send another message or correct it.
But the cool thing about it is at the end of a conversation
once you do work out like a whole workflow
and automation with it, you can say save this as a skill,
it will create a file where it breaks down
everything that worked and also by the way,
sometimes it tries things, they don't work
and it tries them a different way.
When it creates that skill file at the end,
it will just like basically document all the ways
that it worked to accomplish your task.
So it doesn't have to go and try different things.
And sometimes, sometimes the way this tool works
is different than the way that we are used to.
So I remember like when I was first using it,
there was, I was like copy this and paste it here
and it really struggled with like the copy
and paste for a long time.
And finally, there was like a pop up that like had to,
you know, say like, hey, do accept the copy,
like I can use the copy and paste on your computer
and I'm like, well, of course.
So then I added that to the skill
when I ran it again right at the beginning
before I even kicked off the whole thing.
It's like, hey, we need access to copy and paste
and your browser and your computer files.
And it kind of had like this checklist
and I clicked accept all.
Then it could run the whole process
where well, I've kind of worked through it
and it was taken a long time yesterday.
It was having pop ups one by one being like,
oh, I can't do that unless you give me access to this.
So once it built that skill file,
it gave me all of those kind of access requirements
right at the beginning that I could check off
and it could go.
So it takes a while to get something set up.
But once you save it as a skill,
then I just basically the skill kind of has a name
and all I have to do is say, hey, run the skill again
and it will go and do the whole process
and it kind of has it all figured out.
Now, it is slow.
So I would definitely recommend having a separate computer
that you are running this on.
And I think you can just get an old laptop.
If you have one, a lot of people of course
are buying Mac minis, but I don't think
that's completely necessary at all.
But right now I literally have a couple,
I have a few laptops.
So I just ran that on my Mac all day yesterday
and then I was working off of my windows
as kind of my backup.
I'll probably at some point get a Mac mini
that is running it all.
I think it works a little better on Mac at the moment.
Well, at least that was what I was thinking
but they just rolled out windows today.
So it was only two days apart.
I was just thinking they didn't have windows
ready to rock and roll.
Overall, I've been really impressed with this tool.
It's so much it could do.
I mean, literally because it can take control of your screen
and it can click around.
I've used a lot of these agent software
for the last couple of years.
Opening I really kind of had a good thing going
with their agents, but they just weren't quite there
and this feels much, much more sophisticated.
This feels like it actually works.
And I've been actually saying this for a while
because I've been using the Google Chrome Cloud app,
which is a sidebar, which takes control
of your Google Chrome browser and gets stuff done for you.
So that was kind of my first introduction to this.
Now that they've just made it control your whole computer
screen, I'm thrilled.
And this is honestly a pretty decent tool,
especially if you can use it,
if you can dispatch a remote from your phone,
I would say throw this on a separate computer
and probably say build out some skills
that you teach how to do and just have it running
those skills throughout your day.
Anything that's pretty repetitive,
if it's writing newsletters or articles or documents
or research, all that kind of stuff,
it can get it all figured out.
Now, the one thing that I want to end this on,
I made a post on LinkedIn and it got a lot of traction.
So I think it probably resonated and struck a chord
with a lot of people.
And I had basically reshared a post that I saw on X
from Thomas Frank.
He said, currently, 892 hours into automating the 32nd task
I do four times a year, it's going
to be so worth it once I get everything working.
I thought that was hilarious.
And I think that that's kind of what it felt like for me
yesterday, but I was also figuring out the tool
and all the capabilities and how to set it up
and how to, you know, how to basically connect it with my Gmail
and with all of my different apps and stuff
that I use.
So I think at the end of the day, it does kind of feel
like this.
It takes forever to figure out some of these automation
softwares.
But I definitely think that this cloud computer use
is one that's super valuable.
It's worth the learning.
Yes, like I could say, it's kind of slow and it's not,
you know, and it asks for permission to do things.
But it does get the task done and it does do it well.
So I would say spend some time on this one.
It's going to get faster.
Like they're going to make the tool become faster or faster.
Now if you're a developer, you probably don't even need this.
You're probably running something like OpenClaw
or something like CloudCode that can get a lot of these types
of, that a lot can get a lot of stuff done for you.
But if you are a no-coder like myself,
this is 100%.
I think the best way to work with agents
and to automate stuff, it is phenomenal.
I would highly recommend it.
All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning
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and I'll catch you in the next episode.
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