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In this episode, we explore Anthropic's recently released Claude Co-Work and Dispatch features, which allow Claude to control your computer's mouse, keyboard, and screen for automation. We look at the practical applications, setup process, and potential for streamlining repetitive tasks, noting both its current speed limitations and future potential as a powerful automation tool.
Chapters
00:00 Anthropic's Latest Releases
01:55 Claude Co-Work & Dispatch Explained
04:09 Setting Up and Initial Impressions
06:56 Creating and Saving Skills
08:24 Recommendations and Use Cases
11:23 Developer vs. No-Coder Perspectives
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Today on the podcast, guys, I got to cover what's going down with Anthropic.
They have released so much.
In fact, people are saying they're completely changing everything that OpenAI is doing.
There's a release schedule for Anthropic because OpenAI recently just announced that
they're shutting down Sora, they're video model for good, and people are confused about
it.
All signs basically point back to Anthropic and how much ground they have gained with white
collar and productivity work, and their revenue is absolutely insane as more and more people
are using them to basically power their whole businesses and companies.
I want to talk about the most recent update that Anthropic did two days ago.
They released a computer use on Clawed Co-Work, which essentially if you're using Clawed,
there's three different tabs, the chat, the co-work, and the Clawed Code.
Personally, I'm not a developer, so I don't use the Clawed Code, although I probably
should figure out how to use that more.
But yesterday, I spent basically the entire day working with Clawed Code Work.
If you haven't used it before, I'm going to talk about some of the best ways to get
used to use it, some of the best frameworks, what it can do, what it can do, and a lot
of the updates.
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OK, Clawed Code Work.
The thing that a lot of people have been super excited about is Thelix Resenberg two
days ago said, today we're releasing a feature that allows Clawed to control your computer
mouse, keyboard, and screen, given it the ability to see any app.
I believe this is especially useful if used with Dispatch, which allows you to remotely
control your computer while you're away.
So two features here, and both of them I've tried, both of them are impressive.
Dispatch essentially is, and all this stuff, by the way, you might not see if you're using
Clawed, but it's in your settings.
So the first thing with this particular use is that it is for, when they first rolled
it out, it was for Mac, but I think just today a couple hours ago they added it for Windows
as well.
So everyone should be able to get access to this.
You have to download, I downloaded the specific Clawed app for my Mac.
So it's not like on the website or the web browser.
This has to be the app because it is taking control of your computer.
So you're going to go into the settings and you're going to want to toggle on Clawed
code work and also you're going to want to go and toggle on Dispatch.
Now Dispatch is a particularly useful feature that essentially allows it to sync up to your
phone.
So if your computer is open and I just have my computer set to, if it is plugged in, not
to go to sleep.
And so I could be away somewhere, somewhere far away.
And Clawed can be essentially working, you know, working remote essentially takes over
my computer screen and can do literally anything I want it to do.
And then with my phone, if I'm like, let's say I'm at the grocery store, I can open my
phone up, see what it's working on, and chat with it and say, hey, now can you please
do XYZ?
Basically, I think this is Clawed's response to Open Claw, which by the way, I also tried
to set up, well, I did set up Open Claw as well the day before.
It is complex.
I don't want to, I don't want to like, I don't know, sound too dumb here or something.
But it's kind of tricky.
It takes a while to set up.
I don't want to watch a lot of tutorials.
If you're not a developer, Clawed code is much harder to get set up.
And it doesn't have a lot of the cool user interfaces.
There's just a lot to set up where in my opinion, if you're the average, maybe white collar
person or you're working in a company, you want to kind of be on the cutting edge, this
is huge.
Now, what I will say is it is completely taking control of your computer screen.
And it is sort of slow, especially right now, and they even admit this in, in, in their
like post, he said, we will work, this will work with both Clawed Cawork and Clawed Desktop
app.
You can use it to click all of the buttons and a legacy app that you'd like to automate
or use it to help you debug a native app you're working on.
It's slow, but giving Clawed any mouse and keys is so exciting to me.
That's what Felix said about this.
He's over at Anthropic.
So it's slow is an understatement.
It feels kind of like it's honey if I'm being honest.
So I'm not going to overhype this and say like it's zooming around clicking.
The speed will increase inevitably, but for the time being, I think I just trying to be
really careful and make it slow.
So why do I bring that up?
It's a very useful tool because you can essentially chat with it and get it to do a whole thing.
So yesterday I had it generating scripts for a project I'm working on.
I had it going and logged into different websites generating content.
I had it going to AI box my own website and running boxes on AI boxes and grabbing the
output of those boxes actually found that was one of the best ways to use it was basically
to build an automation or like a tool on AI box and then give it a whole project.
But when it came to the content generation instead of trying to manually give it a huge
prompt where it had to add that into its steps, it's just one of the steps was go to this
box, this link box on AI box, generate with these inputs and then grab that and move
it to the next part of our project.
I then had it literally opening up and editing videos on CapCut.
So I just told it like, hey on my computer there's a video editor called CapCut, open that
up, pull this file in, pull that file in and start editing it in this way and that.
Now, what I will say is that again, not very fast, like you got a lot of the work done,
but like if you sit there and watch it, sometimes it can feel painful because it's like,
I am opening up CapCut.
Now I am searching for the new project button and then it says like 20 things back and
forth for like three minutes.
It's like, okay, I'm clicking on it and you're like, oh my gosh, it's so slow.
So here's where I think that this is pretty useful.
Number one is it took me basically all day to kind of chat back and forth with it and get
it to figure out how to do this whole project, this whole workflow that I mean to be fair
probably would save me two hours a day and it's actually something that I have an employee
working on.
But it's something that would probably take two hours a day.
It took me, I don't know, the better part of four hours, not a bit like constantly
chatting, but I'd like send a message, I'd be working on something on my other computer
and then like 10 minutes later I'd send another message or correct it.
But the cool thing about it is at the end of a conversation once you do work out like
a whole workflow and automation with it, you can say save this as a skill, it will create
a file where it breaks down everything that worked and also by the way sometimes it
tries things, they don't work and it tries them a different way.
When it creates that skill file at the end, it will just basically document all the ways
that it worked to accomplish your task.
So it doesn't have to go and try different things.
Sometimes the way this tool works is different than the way that we are used to.
So I remember when I was first using it, I was like copy this and paste it here and
it really struggled with the copy and paste for a long time and finally there was a pop
up that had to say, hey, do accept the copy, I can use the copy and paste on your computer
and I'm like, well, of course.
So then added that to the skill when I ran it again right at the beginning before I even
kicked off the whole thing, it's like, hey, we need access to copy and paste and your
browser and your computer files and it kind of had like this checklist and I clicked accept
all.
Then it could run the whole process where, well, I kind of worked through it and it was
taken a long time yesterday, it was having pop up one by one being like, oh, I can't
do that unless you give me access to this.
So once it built that skill file, it gave me all of those kind of access requirements
right at the beginning that I could check off and it could go.
So it takes a while to get something set up, but once you save it as a skill, then I
just basically the skill kind of has a name and all I have to do is say, hey, run this
skill again and it will go and do the whole process and it kind of has it all figured out.
Now it is slow.
So I would definitely recommend having a separate computer that you are running this on and
I think you can just get an old laptop.
If you have one, a lot of people of course are buying Mac minis, but I don't think that's
completely necessary at all.
But right now I literally have a couple, I have a few laptops.
So I just ran that on my Mac all day yesterday and then I was working off of my windows as
kind of my backup.
I'll probably at some point get a Mac mini that is running it all.
I think it works a little better on Mac at the moment.
Well, at least that was what I was thinking, but we just, they just rolled out windows today.
So it was only two days apart.
I was just thinking they didn't have windows ready to, ready to rock and roll.
Overall, I've been really impressed with this tool that it's so much it could do.
I mean, literally because it can take control of your screen and it can click around.
I've used a lot of these agent softwares for the last couple of years.
Opening I really kind of was kind of had a good thing going with their agents, but they
just weren't quite there and this feels much much more sophisticated.
This feels like it actually works.
And I've been actually saying this for a while because I've been using the Google Chrome
Cloud app, which is a sidebar, which takes control of your Google Chrome browser and gets
stuff done for you.
So that was kind of my first introduction to this.
Now that they've just made it control your whole computer screen, I'm thrilled.
And this is honestly a pretty decent tool, especially if you can use it, if you can dispatch
it remote from your phone, I would say throw this on a separate computer and I would probably
say build out some skills that you teach how to do and just have it running those skills
throughout your day.
Anything that's pretty repetitive, if it's writing newsletters or articles or documents
or research, all of that kind of stuff, it can get it all figured out.
Now the one thing that I want to end this on, I made a post on LinkedIn and it got a lot
of traction.
So I think it probably resonated and struck a chord with a lot of people.
And I had basically reshared a post that I saw on X from Thomas Frank.
He said, currently 892 hours into automating a 30 second task I do four times a year.
It's going to be so worth it once I get everything working.
I thought that was hilarious.
And I think that that's kind of what it felt like for me yesterday, but I was also figuring
out the tool and all the capabilities and how to set it up and how to, you know, how
to basically connect it with my Gmail and with all of my different apps and stuff that
I use.
So I think at the end of the day, it does kind of feel like this.
It takes forever to figure out some of these automation softwares.
But I definitely think that this cloud computer use is one that's super valuable.
It's worth the learning.
Yes, like I could say, it's kind of slow and it's not, you know, and it asks for permission
to do things.
But it does get the task done and it does do it well.
So I would say spend some time on this one.
It's going to get faster like they're going to make the, the tool become faster faster
now.
If you're a developer, you probably don't even need this.
You're probably running something like open claw or something like cloud code that can
get a lot of these types of little lot can get a lot of stuff done for you.
But if you are a no coder like myself, this is 100%.
I think the best way to work with agents and to automate stuff, it is phenomenal.
I would highly recommend it.
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