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Stocks jumped and oil fell on a report that the President of Iran reiterated openness to ending the war. We drill down on today’s massive move with Solus’ Dan Greenhaus, Requisite Capital’s Bryn Talkington and Capital Area’s Malcolm Ethridge. Plus, Apple got a big boost in today’s session. Star analyst Erik Woodring from Morgan Stanley breaks down that action – and his outlook for the smartphone landscape. And, Nike reports in Overtime. We run through all the key themes and metrics to watch from those numbers.
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Welcome to Closing Bell. I'm Scott Walker live from Post-Night. Here at the New York Stock Exchange,
this maker break out begins with this surge in stocks on hopes the war with Iran is closer to an end.
We'll follow this action right into the close today. We'll show you the scorecard here
with 60 to go in regulation. We are green and well so across the board. The majors were already
higher. They did get a major boost in the new hour on that report that Iran's president said they
were open to ending the war. Unconfirmed but nonetheless it moved the market.
We'll get the latest from Washington in just a moment but there is your intraday picture of
the majors. It shows the story pretty well. Oil moved a little bit lower, not much but it was
enough to make people feel better about what's been happening there too. Yeal has been down and
all of that has contributed to the better feeling in the markets today as this final stretch begins.
Tech a big story as well. Nvidia taking a taking back a key level. There it is above $170
dollars. A share. It's a 5% gain. Many of the other mega caps are rising in concert too. We'll
have more on that coming up. First though we begin in Washington and CNBC's Amin Javers,
who has the very latest on this war. Amin? Yes Scott as you say markets have been moving on
reports of a phone call held earlier today between Iran's president and the president of the
European Council. Iran's state affiliated press TV is reporting that Iran's president said that
the country seeks no war but is prepared to end it with guarantees against further attacks. So
that does convey a sense that Iran is continuing to offer up some conditions that could be built into
any deal to end the war but that's not necessarily new and it's just one part of the set of demands
that Iran has been making publicly already. Now President Trump has said that negotiations are
ongoing and if Iran doesn't cut a deal that he likes by April 6th he will bomb civilian infrastructure
such as power plants. The president took to social media this morning to hurl some criticism at
American allies who he argues have been insufficiently supportive of the United States. He
wrote that France has been very unhelpful and warned that the USA will remember and he wrote
I have a suggestion for you. Number one buy from the U.S. We have plenty and number two
build up some delayed courage go to the straight and just take it you'll have to learn to start
fighting for yourself the USA won't be there for you anymore just like you weren't there for us
but Scott what many countries appear to be doing is cutting side deals to pay Iran for safe passage
of their ships. That's creating a significant new revenue stream for the Islamic Republic that
didn't exist before the war. Of course what the president wants them to do is launch their own
military capacity. It looks like buying their way out of the problem might be the more appealing
solution to a lot of American allies. You did as well Aiman also have this report later this afternoon
that both China and Pakistan were collectively trying to be intermediaries here too and presenting
Iran with a deal for a ceasefire. There are more parties involved here as well who would like to
see an end of these hostilities. Yeah and you can imagine the panic in Asia right now is the
last shipments of pre-war oil reach Asia's economies and they look at this enormous air gap and
supply of oil that's going to be indefinite at this point. The idea that China is moving into
pole position here and taking a leadership role in trying to settle this is fascinating. This
is an Axios report that China and Pakistan have made this overture and you do think that with
Pakistan being involved and Pakistan serving as the main mediator between the United States and
Iran there might be some sort of tacit U.S. blessing to this effort as well. We'll see if the
White House will comment on it but a fascinating proposal that reads to me Scott if you look at
the points in that proposal as Axios has reported them just as a straight up ceasefire with safe
passage in the state of Hormuz and that seems to be something the president would be willing to
settle for at this point. Well I think the markets would be quite a happy if that in fact was the
case. Amen thank you very much that's Aiman Javers from Washington with the latest they're speaking
of the straight and speaking of oil. Pippa Stevens is with us now who's been following this trying
to get the straight of Hormuz back open just isn't an immediate thing as you were telling us at
noon Pippa give us more information. Definitely not immediate and we did see WTI settle off the
worst levels of the session settled at 101 38 the low had been 99 62 with the high at 106 86
and right now we're right around the 102 level but this is by no means going to resolve itself
anytime soon as Aiman was just saying the last shipments of oil that was loaded prior to the war
has now reached the final destination and so that cushion is about to be removed from the market
and we continue to see this disconnect between the physical and the paper markets we have seen
prices soaring in the physical markets especially for those Dubai and Omani blends with barrels
in the Middle East very very tight now and that's not completely being being reflected in the financial
markets right now although Goldman was out with an interesting note saying that there were some
investors buying strike options as high as $450 per barrel so of course there are so many there's
a very large and very wide range of outcomes that could be possible here in terms of oil pricing
looking forward but also we can't disconnect discount the fact that the Bob Bellman Dabstraight south
of the Red Sea is also now potentially at risk after the Houthis entered the war over the weekend
targeting Israel and of that work to also experience a slowdown in shipping that could be a double
whammy for the market and then just finally Scott I would point out here the narrowing spread
between WTI and Brent right now about $2.40 as WTI becomes more attractive it is of course not
the key type of type of oil that refiners are looking for they tend to like the more of the
medium sour barrels but if they can't get those they will take WTI and so as WTI exports become
more valuable to the global market we could see that spread continue to tighten all right it's
great insight as always Pippa thank you Pippa Stevens now let's bring in our panel Solus' Dan
Greenhouse requisite sprint talking tin and capital areas Malcolm Etheridge both Brendan Malcolm
or CNBC contributors one and all it is great to have everybody I guess the big question Dan
I'll begin with you since you're sitting here next to me is if there's a resolution reasonably
quickly what do you do as an investor you just go back to playing what you were playing before the
idea that hey earnings are going to be pretty good and you still have this stimulus coming out
of Washington and all's well again I think the temptation will be to do something else I don't
know if that's correct it might seem too many to be too simplistic to say well we're just going
to return to the world as was and admittedly in a lot of respects we will not a oil is not going
back to $60 anytime soon and the exact mechanism by which this is solved remains to be seen but
from an investment standpoint we've talked ad nauseam as everybody has noted that earnings
expectations have held in quite well they've gone up in many cases the valuations and a lot
of those big names and they've driven a lot of inflows into the market have gotten more attractive
summer trading its sub market multiples which is insane when you consider the growth profiles
so there I think it's probably not a bad place to start but I do want to quickly note before we move
on that the headline is that Iran wants to settle this and I don't think anyone should be surprised
they're getting bombed left and right I'm sure they'd be perfectly happy to have this settled but
it's the condition and listen we talked last week if and when there was something resembling
a settlement the markets would fly for all the technical and fundamental reasons that we've
been talking about but their conditions for settling this sort of speak involved taking over
the straight which is going to provide them a revenue stream is pipa noted a promise never to
attack them ever again and a right to enrichment a number of things that the US is not really going
to go for so I get why the markets up so strongly today but I would just caution investors
a lot of those conditions are probably not something that the US is going to agree to
Brenner you still cautious want to see more information before you make a larger investment
decision here you know I like to rely on technicals when the fundamentals are foggy because
obviously we have this this this war this excursion so you know I've been talking a lot about the
200 day there's a lot of good data Scott that if we can get back above the 200 day within the
first month then it's got a hundred percent hit ratio that a year later stocks are positive with
an average return of around 19 percent so we're only about 2 percent below the 200 day but so you
know March 19th we went below with Scott so I'm looking at April 19th which is a long time away
but I do think that's really important to technically get back above that so we can build off of
there so that's the key item that I'm watching before I put on let's say like a bigger exposure
because it is just have that really high hit rate a year out what about you Malcolm yeah I think
Dan's making a great point that we might need to curb our enthusiasm just a little bit nothing is
set in stone and this can all be undone with one tweet but I also think today is a really good
exposure of what the playbook probably looks like once we do get the all clear so financials
have done pretty well at the XLF participated today tech has done really well today looking at
the NASDAQ and those were the two sectors that lagged coming into this year and so maybe that is
the place that investors are looking at opportunities where things have been sold off quite a bit
and we can make some sort of intimation that maybe that's where dollars are going to flow the
heaviest as soon as there is an opportunity to start buying back up this dip Dan this was always
the danger wasn't it that what was always thought to be I suppose and hoped to be a short-lived
conflict oh the danger was getting too negative as it seemed to be dragging on with no real
credible information to to go off of but always knowing that in the background this hopefully
wasn't going to be a long-term or deal yeah but listen I never really thought it was good
it turns into a definition of long-term I think a lot of people get of our age look at Afghanistan
and look at Iraq and Harkin back to Vietnam and think that this is going to be multi-year
no I think at the beginning the administration's stance was whether it was you know believable or
not in the sense of you never know what's going to happen once the war begins of course was four
five weeks was kind of thrown out there estimate yeah I think I think most people I speak to seem
to have seemed to believe that the administration thought this was going to be a weekend thing all
event as well and obviously that that's not in the case I don't know if that's true or not obviously
but yeah there was a risk of getting too negative but at the same time a fully loaded
Kuwaiti oil tanker was hit with a drone last night yeah the market still open positive today yes
I guess right I I'm not I'm not making a market comment I'm just saying hostilities have not ceased
and there we talk about getting more negative getting back to my my point about the conditions
that the Iranians are going to demand sort of speak for cessation of hostilities if the US doesn't
agree to them the risk becomes well we're going to start targeting the the regional infrastructure
to a greater degree I don't know whether the US is actually going to go bomb civilian infrastructure
in Iran but Iran could bomb other refineries throughout the region could could make this a
little more painful from a global standpoint and so they're yeah I get it the risk is getting
too negative but the risks of the negative risks were also quite real it just brin I mean it doesn't
really move either side to to draw this out obviously from a military standpoint there's there's
no competitive conversation to be had regarding the Iranians versus the the United States and from
our perspective you know an environment in which oil prices are going to remain elevated over
an extended period of time and thus gas prices which went over $4 a gallon today on average for
the first time in a while we're going to remain elevated over a period of time where the stock
market was going to get hit to a degree that I don't think anybody certainly not in Washington at
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue would like to see this thing was always deemed to be let's not let it
drag on too much it's just as the markets in the fog of war doesn't necessarily know how to
assess all of that listen when you have the US and China which is what two-thirds of global GDP
it's like the only real countries from an economic powerhouse that matter I think the China
Pakistan is incredibly important China buys 89 percent of Iranian exports and so I think that
them coming and negotiating with Pakistan will say alongside the US this feels like this is
going to end by the way and I think that is what's happening today is that China is a game changer
and so I we are going to defeat this one way or another but to me that was the best news today
because China needs that oil and they need the straight-of-formers open and they're not going to
be wanting to pay the Iranians a toll booth by the way that's absurd sure going going forward so
I think that's a really big deal today with China entering this if you say that this feels like
it's going to end that that was that was the comment you just made I mean that sounds like
somebody who may be looking to put some opportunity to work no if you if you believe that
are you going to wait until you see a sign to cease fire or are you going to act accordingly
based on the assumption that you're making today yeah well I mean we're already invested right
first of all we didn't we didn't sell anything that's the key thing I mean listen I think Google
here up for almost 5% Google CBRE Capital One I mean these stocks are off 20% from their highs
are 20% year-to-date so I mean to me those are three great places that I will put I would
happy to put the money to work today and then add more but I do want to say I want to get above
that 200 day moving average nothing good happens if we stay there more than a month so I'm really
just balancing today's news of China which we don't know the details with the reality that we
need to get back above that 200 day there's so much history what happens if we get back above it
versus stay below it more than a month I understand that the technical confirmation I guess you
you need to see and that's that's that's completely understood speaking of stocks that are
bouncing a lot what a move for Nvidia today after that company announced a new investment with
Marvel Christina parts and levelos is here with that you told us the other day that you were
so closely watching the 170 dollar level well it took a deal with Marvel it took comments on
this network from Jensen Wong and then a better overall environment to move the stock now well
above that level yes I think the better environment is really a big driver especially because ETF
trading right now is just a huge portion so many people are buying ETFs in videos and over 600 of
them so that's also helping drive shares up 5% but the news today specifically Nvidia putting 2
billion dollars into Marvel technology this deal really centers on Nvidia's platform that lets
custom chips plug into its infrastructure and so Marvel designs those custom AI chips for other
major tech companies like Amazon they actually compete with Nvidia's GPUs but this partnership
kind of flips that dynamic giving Nvidia a shot at a much bigger market and then making Marvel
a strategic partner for Nvidia this investment though Scott is one of many just this month alone
look at your screen you can see Nvidia's committed 2 billion dollars each to Nebius Lumentum coherit
before that 2 billion into synopsis a billion into Nokia stakes and XAI open AI until I couldn't
even fit them all on the screen because I only had five blocks there the CEO often reminds investors
though it's not a chip company anymore but rather an AI infrastructure firm here he is exclusively
on CNBC this morning the market misses several things about about Nvidia I think the of course because
we are such a large company and we have such a large position of AI computing and all the AI
infrastructure you know a lot of people might think that all of our growth is all priced in however
what is very clear is several things happened this last several months in fact maybe the last
six months we gain share the number of customers outside of the clouds the top five clouds of
service providers has now grown to 40% of our company's business most people think that most
of our business is in the cloud but in fact the fast one of the fastest growing segments is outside
of the enterprise the industrial and the man sitting next to him is Matt Murphy the CEO of
Marvell the argument though is that the market is just focused on big hyperscalers but in video
is ecosystem it's just spreading even far beyond them into enterprise you heard industrial now deeper
into the supply chain through investments like today's Marvell steel got Mar Christina great
reporting thank you Christina parts of Novelos Malcolm I'll come to you you still hold the stock I
thought what we heard from Jensen Wong on this network exclusively this morning was as clear
an understandable explanation that you could ever give from a CEO to an investor base on why the
market's been getting this wrong yeah and I listen I completely understand the standpoint of any
investor who says this stock has run probably run its course here it's probably time for me to be
taking some profits are exiting the name because how much better can the story get they've they've
shown blown blowout earnings time after time again and I just don't know how much better you can get
than 80% gross profit margins so I'm going to exit stage left but I also think that's leaving some
opportunity on the table when you consider this company is now an innovation company is the way
they refer to themselves to Christina's point not just a chip company yes maybe they're going to
give up something on the GPU front when it comes to inference chips but Jensen's already working
on finding his next parade and getting out in front of it so much so that this company's been
investing a lot of its own free cash flow into finding where that opportunity is so they're trying
to grow their next customer in the next industry that's going to take hold rather than sitting
and resting on their laurels where they've got the mag seven they've got the hyperskellers as
their massive customers today bring you on it too what do you make of what Jensen had to say and
specifically this stock move today I mean it's well warranted the stock by the way it's up
60% over the last year so it's not like it's been dead money I mean Microsoft is the one that's
been the dead money the stock's just resting here the stock is now on a Ford PE cheaper than exon
and is going to grow earnings seventy five percent this year it's resting I feel like the stock
eventually will get over two hundred which to me I keep selling calls there because it can't get
above that but I think you will continue to get this stock move like it had last year it's just
resting right now and then ultimately it'll break out and leave investors behind like it's
consistently done so I wouldn't give up on this name even remotely with this earnings growth
that we still had a head of us and the low PE relative to once again an exon
Dan how much does this market need tech to be back I don't think it needs tech to be back but I
think it's certainly going to be welcome I mean you know to Brennan Malcolm's point these
companies still have terrific growth rates obviously they've been challenged for six months as we've
discussed ad nauseam but the AI story threw a wrench in the work for a lot of names and no
matter how many times these companies say at least in the short term we're not seeing any issue
there's a little bit of an overhang so so in light of that we were pride of this whole thing
doing quite well without a lot of tech participated no but but this is a different environment so I'll
just say the reason I ask how much does the market need tech now so if you're telling me that okay
well oil prices may remain elevated for an extended period of time even if this ends and the
straight reopens as Pippa was telling us it just doesn't the flow just doesn't get back to normal
overnight so for the foreseeable future industrial companies and so many others are going to have
their input costs elevated because the cost of fuel and transporting goods from here to there is
and maybe even manufacturing them in some instances is going to go up so I can't really bank
on the broadening trade right now until that environment changes so I need now tech to perform
better it didn't have to before because the other trade was working so well now it may be impaired
for a little bit sure I'll say a few things first I would I would argue oil will be higher because
besides the complications in the straight you also the geopolitical risk premium was basically zero
before okay and while it might go to zero in the long time in the long term when Marco Rubio's
president of Iran in the in the short term there's going to be some premium there okay so I'm
going to worry about growth a little bit then yeah but but also the second point I was going to make
well the first one I was going to make is Exxon was just a hundred bucks a share it's now 175
dollars a share so you've had a huge run up in these names so the money we've seen this in
in ETF flow in the EPFR data money has gone into the sector all year long and at some point
probably going to rotate out but the more important point is to your question about input costs the
much bigger issue for not that oil and energy doesn't matter because it matters for plastics and
transportation but labor costs are still the biggest issue for the vast majority of companies
and wages are still at least for now relatively contained and so you you do have an offset there
to compensate for the higher input costs I guess my point is this if you had a decision to make would
you feel more comfortable if you believe that oil prices are going to remain elevated and there's
going to be still a bit of maybe chaotic aftermath within the the Middle East whether we're there
or not would you feel more comfortable today putting your dollar into a mega cap tech company
or an industrial or a more cyclical company that's more tied to the to the global economy because
I think I know what the answer would be and I'm hard pressed to figure out how you could answer
a different well without commenting on what solace may or might not do my gut says probably the
industrial or the mag seven because again to I don't want it both ways what I just cake and he
wants to eat it too ladies and gentlemen finish your answer then I know now we're going to have to
save it for the next time go ahead I the names have been beaten up so badly and their growth
profiles are still relatively unchanged their valuations are super attractive again I this is not
what I do so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt but that just looks pretty compelling to
me from an investment standpoint okay don't believe it there guys thank you Brynn Malcolm damn we'll
see you soon we're just getting started here up next much more on today's big rally including
that jump in shares of Apple star Apple analyst Eric Woodring he's standing by he joins us next
you
Apple shares are lower to start the year they haven't been though as weak as some of the other
mega caps for more on why and what lies ahead for the stock we're joined now by Morgan Stanley's
head of U.S. Tech hardware research Eric Woodring welcome back nice to see you thank you for having
me on Scott so I want to start with something that Warren Buffett told Becky quick of our own
Becky quick of course on on CBC this morning lamented that he sold Apple a little too soon and that
he would buy more of it maybe not in this market but if it went down he would buy more and it just
makes me think that this name as I wrote in the intro to to bringing you in it's been resilient
in its own way yeah yes it's down but it's not down off of its high by that much relative to some
of these other big names why do you think that is sure I think there's two factors there primarily
one the cash cow for Apple is obviously the iPhone and the iPhone is doing tremendously well we
obviously know from the December quarter how well it did back then 20% plus growth we have it growing
20% plus again in the March quarter and again we published our our broad smartphone survey
last Monday Apple upgrade rates are at all time highs they're the only company gaining share in
the smartphone market in our survey at least foldables interest is extremely high so said differently
the core of the business is still doing very well and better than it has over the last few years
and then I think the other side of it is as the market is thematically debated the investments
or lack thereof in AI Apple is taking the the capital light asset light approach of investing 13 14
billion dollars in CapEx and licensing technology from Google as opposed to some of the other
large mega caps that are clearly investing a ton and making big bets that have to show an ROI
that threshold for ROI for Apple is just much lower right now can we go as far as to say now Eric
that what was a headwind for Apple that being AI is now a tailwind for this company or is that
still too early I think it's probably still too early to make that claim we have to get to the
developer conference June 8th to understand exactly what Apple's approach will be obviously
we've seen reports of maybe Apple's strategy coming together more so then it has been over the
last two years I'm still a big believer in that we need to learn specifics of what Apple will
provide us users that will be different than others as a means of getting into the AI race and then
also the same question I asked management on last earnings call what is the ROI and what is the time
to pay back these are questions that are still important how are you going to monetize AI
that we still need to learn about so we're taking you know Apple is taking steps forward I think
we have a better idea of strategy I still think we need to learn more at the developer
conference before we put them into that bucket they they did have another headwind and that's been
the rising cost of memory we saw it in a huge run up in in some respects of stocks like
micron etc so where does that leave them now is these elevated memory prices despite a pullback
in some of those marquee names memory prices themselves are are still elevated and it is a it's
got to be some level of a hit to margins we would agree with that if you just look at the June
quarter right now we're we're forecasting a 45 percent blended company gross margin consensus is
at 47.7 percent so I would agree with you Scott that now this might be a cyclical
dynamic here related to memory but it is still a challenge that they have to that they have to
face and my broader universe has to face I have been cautious on my broader universe because of
this exact theme prices are going input costs are going up that creates risk around margins and
around a demand degradation now for apple listen there are some offsets obviously we are we are
well above consensus for the June quarter revenue as well so we're maybe maybe getting to the same
earnings as as consensus but in a very different way but apple has more levers than peers right
they have high end iPhones where demand would be more inelastic where maybe they can take some
price over 40 percent of gross profit dollars comes from high margin services that continues to
kind of chug along and apple is a you know supply chain my astro for lack of a technical term
they'll find ways to push back on other areas of the bill of materials to try to maintain margins
but we think that apple is in this type of an environment really going to try and maximize gross
profit dollars not gross margins and and and and that is that is through pricing that is through
supply chain actions this company is going to market 50th anniversary tomorrow what do you think
Tim Cook's greatest contribution to those 50 will be Tim has done a fantastic job of taking
Steve Jobs's legacy and broadening it right I think Tim does Tim gets the shorter end of the
stick so to say because investors compare him to Steve Jobs he's just a very different CEO he's
been able to take the iPhone and the platform that apple has had and build it from a technology
hardware company into a technology platform and probably the most powerful consumer technology
platform on the face of the earth at least as we stand today and I don't think that he gets
enough credit for that he's obviously made some new incremental bets on things like spatial computing
we'll see where AI goes I think he still wants to see those bets play out before he hands the
baton off but again biggest changes this is no longer a hardware company under Tim Cook this is
a technology platform look at how the multiple has gone under his under under his tenure
stock trades at mid to high 20 times PE pretty consistently that is a sign of the shift in the
business model that again I don't think Tim gets enough credit for right I mean it's kind of
doubled right X cash I mean the correct the multiple has done what it's done when I started
covering apple a little over 10 years ago if the stock reached 15 times PE that was kind of the
oh my gosh you know sell apple now we get up into the 30s and while there might be debate around
what the right valuation is you can't deny that the efforts that he has undergone have led to
that multiple expansion we'll talk to you soon Eric thanks as always I thank you for your time
Eric Woodring of Morgan Stanley still ahead Netflix rallying today the company wants an even bigger
play in the NFL we'll give you those details coming up as we head to break another check of the
majors we're close to the highs on the Dow trying to get to an 1100 point gain now S&P has taken
back 6500 we're up near 3% there and look at the Nasdaq it's the leader today and buy a lot
three and three quarters per cent we're back right after this
all right welcome back Netflix reportedly seeking to add more NFL games to its lineup the
companies made no secret of its interest in expanding its sports offerings are Julia Borsten
joins us now with more tell us more details please well the NFL's mini package of games that is
currently taking to the marketplace is attracting a lot of interest from many companies including
Netflix according to a source closes situation now no comment from Netflix but this does confirm
the Wall Street Journal's report that Netflix is looking to expand from his current package of
two Christmas day games which ends this year to a package which could include a new Thanksgiving
Eve game along with an international game likely in the first week of the season now this comes
as the NFL has reclaimed the right to sell these games as part of its deal with ESPN and as
Netflix hasn't increased his investment in sports events including its first MLB game just last week
now there are other potential buyers for these games including Google's YouTube which has the
rights to NFL Sunday ticket package and last season streamed an international game along with
Amazon which has the rights to stream Thursday night NFL games the NFL's broader right
deals will be up for renegotiation after the 2029 2030 season but the NFL can actually renegotiate
its deal with CBS sooner because CBS's parent paramount sold to Skydance Scott do you think in any
way that this decision if you want to call it that or the you know wanting to have more NFL
activity is is related to not getting the Warner Brothers deal with that have still been
something that would have been sought after by Netflix well I actually think that Netflix laid
the groundwork for wanting more NFL games years ago when it struck his three-year deal to get
those NFL Christmas day games and what we're seeing here is really just an expansion from that it's
not a totally different strategy it's Netflix trying to figure out which games are just not
another weekly game but really could be seen more as events because that's what Netflix's sports
strategy is about they're not as interested in the broad right steals as they are in the more
eventized games or sports rights if you look at what they did for Christmas day having a half-time
show really trying to pump pump it up into a must see event that's the kind of sporting rights
that they're looking for going forward so I would say the paramount deal may may have changed that
but for now they're sticking with the same same strategy we've heard for a while excuse me the
Warner Brothers deal might have changed that I got you Julia thank you as always Julia Boreston
up next the biggest movers as we head into this big close Christina what do you have big close
trattle stocks catching a bit today as hopes grow for an end to the war in Iran we'll tell you which
names are moving and of course why right after this about 10 from the bell back to Christina now
for the stock she's watching what's at the top of your list we got to start with the all of these
airlines mostly hire an optimism grows for an end to the war in Iran oil moving lower should help
bring jet fuel to cost down and that has definitely been hitting airline stocks for quite some
time especially since the conflict began with thousands of flights being canceled united Alaska
American all still down though since late February we can see the biggest surge coming from united
up over 8% cruise names also in that bucket bucket higher on the same hope they've been pressured
by higher fuel costs and of course the Middle East disruption's world Caribbean Carnival
Norwegian and Viking you can just see Carnival it's 8% higher and then last but not least
fertilizer names moving in the opposite direction disruption in the straight of hormones is
Titan supply and really push prices higher if the war eases that pressure could come back down
and so that is why some of these guys that were climbing higher down 9% for CBR partners
all right thank you for your Steena parts and over those we are still very much in the green as we
head towards the closing bells pretty much at the highs of the session Mike sent totally a standing
by to help us break down the final moments plus we get you set up for Nike they do report in overtime
and we do it in the market zone which is next we're now the closing bell market zone Mike
Santoli and Kara Murphy from Kestra investments here to break down these crucial moments
of the trading day plus Gabrielle Fun Rouge watching Nike's report out in overtime Michael go
yeah I mean obviously you have to respect how infatic this move is even with it and you know
it's a quarter end you do have a little bit of kind of like retirement money showing up and
just the the bear's excuse of potentially we have passed the peak uncertainty and oil
disruption if that's true the market is not going to wait around for that so definitely an
element of FOMO here you can quibble with some aspects of this rally today including it's not
really all that all encompassing and broad it's it's certainly broad enough but it's not one
of those stampede's higher of actual buying it seems like a lot of hedges coming off and a lot
of investors and traders saying let me not lean too negatively after this long slide so we haven't
cleared any of the important upside hurdles yes V bottoms do happen as you and I have talked about
once in a while but I don't think that should be your default assumption oil is down but also
again not as aggressively as you might expect given the strength of this equity move so I think
you respect it but you still say the market has plenty to prove oh the magic words that I think
you said in how we've been speaking about this is the market doesn't wait around I've said to you
and I've asked you the idea of you know words are are short at this point we need clarity and we
need something more concrete but we're still willing to give certain headlines the benefit of the
doubt rather than wait around we are I mean obviously when the conditions are right I mean we
had a lot of failed rallies in the last three days we're not even in the S&P up to Thursday mornings
hot okay so you definitely did ring out a lot of that kind of hope and that sense of upside
risk that had been animating this market for most of the month of March and so I guess the scene
was set for people to say hey let me not wait around just in case things actually look more
constructive from here we have some version of a declaration of you know the end of hostilities
and maybe we can move a little bit higher in this now much wider range that we've been in for six
months yeah almost a 4% gain now on the NASDAQ are you going to tackle this at the top of the
hour with milk yeah I mean every piece of it we are we do have somebody on the derivative side
who's going to say you know how people are are positioning for this move right here as well as
from from Deutsche Bank and of course we're going to break down the Nike numbers all right we'll
look forward to that we'll see you then top of the hour over time with Mike and Mel Gabby tell us
more about Nike getting a little drowned out because of this incredible market move today but
it's still really important yeah it's all a huge report tonight so Nike is expected to report
earnings per share of 28 cents on revenue of 11.24 billion the key thing to watch tonight will
be how much progress CEO Elliott Hill has made on his turnaround plan by now investors are aware
of the company's turnaround won't be linear but they still want more clarity on how long it's going
to take last quarter Nike saw gains in North America but that good news was overshadowed by steep
declines in China so tonight investors are going to want clearer timelines on both of those regions
can it sustain the growth that's seen in North America and how long will it take to turn things
around in China profitability will also be in focus Nike has already been crushed by tariffs
and efforts to liquidate sale inventory and now production costs could get higher because of
that war in the Middle East Scott. All right Gabby we'll see what happens appreciate you thank you
thank you Gabrielle Fun Rouge. Care is good to have you here how are you? Yeah thanks
so looking at your notes you put this conflict in the category of noise with AI disruption
tariffs private credit this feels like it's been a lot more than just your run of the mill noise
it's like breaks your eardrum it's a little loud right for sure and this is not to downplay that
this is a very important event for the people who are directly impacted for people who are filling
their gas tanks every day but when we think about the market typically and we've done some work
looking back to like 1940 when we have a large geopolitical event like this markets tend to
look through it more than two thirds of the time 12 months after an event like this markets are
actually up what that means is that these conflicts tend to be fairly well contained they tend to
be short lived and then the market then gets back to fundamentals. Okay so let's let's look through it
let's just let's have that exercise I look through it and I want to do why. So I think think about
where is earnings going to be coming from and there as we look out to 2026 expectations are
that US companies are going to grow earnings by like 15% that compares to 9% on a long-term
historical average that's phenomenal earnings power. Well you believe that you're going to be
able to meet those expectations and you and you still must believe that. Yes and this is this
assumes that the conflict is relatively short lived meaning over the next couple of months and
oil begins to receive not necessarily back to its pre-conflict level but to a more sustainable level.
I mean shouldn't I believe then that the mega caps are the ones who are going to deliver the
most robust earnings growth so just go right back to that trade as now they maybe are showing
signs of life again. So I think looking at the valuations degradation that we've had there I think
those are probably going to be the first ones to start to rebound because they have the most
identifiable earnings power but I also think what we've seen is outside of the mag 7 call it
mid cap small caps we're starting to see a re acceleration of earnings growth among those
and you have much lower valuations so they get a chance to start to catch up in the second half
of the year. It's funny that the Russell 2000 I was just looking because I've been so fixated on
the the larger averages like I think most people have the Russell's still positive year to date.
100% that's kind of surprising given not only just what's been happening in the growth scare if
you want to call it that but the backup and rates so is that a sign that there's some durability
I think so and I think this market shift started to happen a while ago if you look at the mag 7
overall they actually peaked at the end of October and among you know S&P 500 Russell 2000 EME
further actually the worst performing asset class year to date so again it doesn't mean that the
that the conflict doesn't hurt oil prices do hurt but if this comes to an end there's a lot of
opportunity out there. All right well we'll see if it comes to an end and when Karen thanks for
being here it's Karen Murphy joining us Bell is going to ring in a moment and we've got a
better than 1100 point game now on the Dow it's about two and a half percent the Nasdaq obviously
is the biggest winner of the day and near 4% rise and Vity is back above what some saw as a real key
level of $170 on these hopes of an end sooner rather than later.
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