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"Actual Friends" podcast hosts Dave Rubin, Jillian Michaels, and Dr. Drew Pinsky talk about Code Pink and Hasan Piker's disastrous attempt to turn Cuba's blackouts and failing economy into communist propaganda; the Fifth Column revealing the exact moment of Hasan Piker's Cuba livestream where the power outages and rolling blackouts made him look like a fool; CNN's Dana Bash not seeming to buy Hakeem Jeffries paranoid scare tactic about peoples lives being put at risk by ICE taking over for the TSA as Democrats continue to hold up DHS funding; Ron Johnson's release of over 2,000 pages of government documents showing that Dr. Anthony Fauci and other government officials hid some of the dangerous side effects from the COVID vaccine; and much more.
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00:00 Start
10:33 Cuba Livestream Meltdown
19:41 Castro Meeting Story
21:14 Hakeem Jeffries On ICE
23:53 ICE Airport Optics
29:16 Missouri v Biden
45:12 Tucker Mixup
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So you guys know already that a couple days ago,
this sort of crazy clown car collection
of left-wing influencers,
highlighted by this lunatic Hassan Piker
who I used to work with at the young turts.
He was Janks.
Yeah, he was Janks nephew.
He is an unbearably terrible.
Yeah.
God.
He's Janks nephew.
You didn't know that?
Yes, he's Janks nephew and got the job
and then immediately like leapfrog
over all these people who had been working there.
Everyone hated him.
He was harassing all the girls
so they made him work from home.
He used to bring his pit bull
to our Sunday basketball game and tie it up to a tree
and it wrecked the whole grass at the school we played at.
He also electrocuted his dog on a live stream.
The guy's just, he's just terrible.
All right, people, this is actual
friends, I'm Dave Rubin.
There is Dr. Drew and in semi-cognito
possibly on some sort of, I don't know,
undercover work is Jillian Michaels.
What's going on over there?
I just literally walked in the door of my house
after like that in six weeks
and we had to drive across the country.
So I was racing like a total asshole to be fair
in order to try to get home.
Because I'm like, I'm not missing this.
Sage never misses it.
And then the little shit is not on our,
it's not on the window.
My wife is like, wait, I have two cats in the car.
One giant dog and we're tearing through Utah
because I was like, I will be on my actual
friends show today.
So we were up at five in the morning.
Not, not, yeah, because my cat woke us all.
Anyway, nevertheless, I am home.
This is what you're getting and that's it.
That is a show, forget this show.
I mean, two lesbians, two cats, a dog.
I assume some kids were involved going cross country.
You throw a Chevy chase, you got a movie.
I know the kids are actually on their way to Hawaii
with my ex for spring break.
So I got to come back home.
And then they're coming here on the second half
of their spring break.
It's going to be the progressive, woke, new vacation movie.
With a little extra choice language
because we know Jillian likes her F-bombs.
We should know.
We should know that Sage also is in a car at the moment
and may do a little walk on.
A little cameo as we say in the biz.
But if not, the three of us will try to hold down the fort.
Guys, did I miss anything last week?
You know, I was in Hungary.
They kept telling me I was hanging out
with all these fascists.
They seem like quite lovely people.
And the food was great.
And it was safe and clean.
And you know what, Dave?
It's interesting.
I saw, I saw Marie.
Did you meet Marie in La Panne while you were there?
I did not meet Marie in La Panne,
but I did meet with Victor Orbán, who says,
he's a big fascist.
I met with Javier Malay, who they say is a mean guy.
He's got a great smile.
I met with, you know, the lesbian leader of the AFD in Germany.
All right, party has a lesbian leader.
I mean, it's all so insane.
It's so insane.
But...
Well, what a nationalist now.
What have you been?
I listened to Marie in La Panne getting excoriated
on French TV because she dared to associate
with a guy who was anti-Ukrain.
And she goes, she goes, look, I'm not looking
for a clone of France.
I'm looking for an ally.
And they've decided to buy their oil from Russia.
They've got their stock.
And oh, no, no, how dare you talk to somebody
who's not supporting Ukraine.
Interesting.
Wow.
I got to tell you real quick on this.
Have you been to Hungary before?
I dying to.
No.
It's so spectacular because, you know,
it's a tiny country, first of all.
It's less than 10 million people.
Obviously, you know, it's central Europe.
They protected their borders.
It's clean, it's safe.
You know, they have a really interesting history
because they were invaded by the communists
and by the Nazis.
So they have a great sense of history.
And they have this like sort of extra antenna
when things are going a little awry.
So to be there and Orban who's been in charge
for 16 years.
And it's really on him to, in that that place,
kept all the immigrants out and did everything right.
And it's not to say he's perfect or anything.
But then at CPAC to have what's her name?
Alice, Alice Widel.
She is the leader of the AFD.
So that's what you would call the quote unquote far right party
in Germany, the anti-immigrant sort of anti-Islam party.
But she gives a big speech.
She gets huge applause.
And she talks about being a,
that she traveled there with her wife and daughter.
And what strange bedfellows, this is all made
because now you have the right wing Victor Orban
with the right wing leader of the German party.
But they're now, in essence, they're pro gay
because it's, because gay is now Western,
which it should be.
I mean, that's one of the good things of the West.
There's many good things of the West.
But you know, it's hard to, you know,
it was, so it was just such a strange realignment of things.
And any, and a lot of you, Lash.
Well, that makes me actually want to ask a question
because I've noticed, I don't want to call out
any institutions or organizations.
But a lot of people are like, are you going to this?
Are you going to that?
I'm like, no, and I wasn't even invited.
And then I was speaking with Andrew Wilson,
who to be fair is very nice and exceptionally intelligent
and a fearsome debater.
And I was like, what do we do here?
Because I like you.
And he legitimately was like, being gay is evil.
And I was like, God, this sucks.
That word, such an awful device.
Yeah, and he feels that way.
And you know what, I respect that that is his religion.
But I have zero interest in trying to change his mind
because it would just be insulting.
You know, you could never do such a thing.
I think Jill would be so interesting
just to understand what's underneath that.
Like, break it down.
What is there?
It is religious.
It is religious.
And when he's a Christian nationalist, he says,
I am a Christian nationalist.
And it's such a strange thing to see.
Okay, so what does he want to do?
Does he want to jail you then?
What does he want to do?
Where do you take this thing to its logical conclusion?
What does he want?
Long story short, he wants us to literally go back to the 80s
where we're happy to not be killed.
And we can kind of do what we want behind closed doors.
I forbid him.
And he also feels that women shouldn't be voting
because we don't get drafted.
And I, but by the way, Drew, he's exceptionally intelligent,
exceptionally intelligent.
Well, exactly why I'd like to pick his brain,
like try to try to keep him in the room.
Come on, you will not, you will not.
And I think the more you try, the more offended,
I think someone like him would become.
Whereas I just kind of listened
because I was like, okay, tell me, you know,
what is your worldview?
How do you feel about this?
And he, that's, you know, that is how he feels.
And I thought, you know, is there, I even said to him,
like is there a world where we have some sort of an overlap
and some sort of alliance?
And I honestly, I love his honesty.
He's like, not really.
He's like, if you want to vote with me on something,
like I'll take your vote.
But there is no sort of quid pro quo there.
They do not compromise on the way they see the world.
It is a deeply religious purview.
And I have a question for you.
This is kind of interesting,
because I've been thinking about this a lot.
If it comes down to Christian nationalism or radical Islam,
which I think it could, where do you fall here?
Just saying, guys, I'm serious.
I think that's, we're going hardcore to start the show.
I mean, well, the part of the problem with that
is that right now it's the Christian nationalists
who seem to be ushering in a lot of the radical Islam stuff.
Right? So it's like, that's interesting.
It's like, you know, the Tucker types
who are constantly talking about Christianity now,
I think in a rather warped way that seem to be also
running cover for Islam.
So I don't know that it's going to be Christian nationalism
or Islam.
I think it's going to be sort of what people are calling
like a maybe chrysalam versus wokeism.
That might have hurt that before.
Wow.
Interesting.
I haven't perceived it that way.
That's very clear.
But, Jillian, I would also say these are things
that like blow up very hot online.
And I don't know how much of it translates into real world.
We're not going to take people's rights away.
We don't do that in America.
We have individual rights.
We have equal protection under the law.
And just because somebody, he has said that he would,
which is why.
Well, well, JD, that has to be careful of you.
I don't know that he's fully said that,
but he has to be careful what he wishes for,
because a lot of these guys, they don't like the fact
that he's married to an Indian woman.
So, you know, you better, you better be careful.
I mean, he has, which is why I kind of like, you know,
I feel like it's not even my, I don't even say anything anymore.
I'm like, all right, this is the idea that I stand for.
This is the idea that I'm against.
This is the idea that I stand for.
And I once again, a person without a party,
but at least I have actual friends, which is really happy.
What are we talking about today?
What are we talking about?
All right, let's leave G-Hod and Christian nationalism
aside for a moment.
And let's jump over to Cuba because you guys know
I'm here in Miami.
I'm surrounded by Cubans.
One of the things that I love about Miami
is that there are so many Cubans.
They love America.
Well, they just also just have like a fun way of life.
And there's just a certain joy in them.
And they get what's right about freedom and all of these things.
So you guys know already that a couple days ago,
this sort of crazy clown car collection
of left-wing influencers highlighted
by this lunatic Hassan Piker,
who I used to work with at the young Turks.
He was Janks.
Yeah, he was Janks nephew.
He is an unbearably terrible guy.
Yeah.
He is a nephew.
You didn't know that?
Yes, he's Janks nephew and got the job
and then immediately like leapfrog
over all these people who had been working there.
Everyone hated him.
He was harassing all the girls
so they made him work from home.
He used to bring his pit bull
to our Sunday basketball game and tie it up to a tree
and it wrecked the whole grass at the school we played at.
He also electrocuted his dog on a live stream.
The guy's just, he's just terrible.
Anyway, he led this crusading band
of leftist white dogs, including Code Pink.
They went to Cuba and here he is talking about it.
While he was in Cuba,
at basically the only hotel that had electricity.
But this level of internet is like unbelievably good
in comparison to like being out and about.
Like this is the, this might be the best internet
on the friggin island.
Like let's be real.
But yeah, they're very productive people.
Because, you know, I did see Vic Mensa for a brief moment.
It's the voice doing.
He's the white guy.
Remember the flotilla transporting humanitarian
to Cuba dancing, singing in the voice, singing in the ship.
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Yeah.
Can't hear anything you're saying.
Wait, what do you mean?
Is that when the screen calls happens?
You can't hear what I'm saying.
So that was not an error, an internet problem on our end.
That was the internet literally breaking down
while he was live streaming.
They've been having rolling blackouts for months.
And these people who are larping communists,
this guy's making, I mean, we try to figure out the exact numbers.
He's probably making 400 plus 1,000 a month on Twitch,
at least.
God knows how many other millions he's making.
So reaping all the rewards of capitalism
while trying to destroy it and usher in communism,
he also went on to talk about how, you know,
it's just so great.
These people are just partying outdoors
in the nice weather.
They've just adjusted to this lifestyle.
I mean, Drew, it was so backwards on every front.
They painted murals for the people.
They brought them some candy.
I mean, it's everything everyone hates about.
They'll have to wrap up in one Cuban package.
I was in Cuba twice.
And you have to kind of know what you're looking at.
You've got to, I was not just in Havana.
I was also in San Fuego.
And it's Havana puts a certain thing forward,
which is their music and their dancing in the streets.
And they've got their old cars that you can't get near.
Because if you get near, I'm going to charge you.
I'm going to charge you for looking at it and taking a picture
with it.
They are government those old cars you hear about.
Those are government run propaganda cars.
Did you know that?
I did.
I didn't know that I did.
So they are not that they only have the old cars
because they can't get cars.
That's the only cars they have for the most part.
But those old restoring cars are for tourist purposes only
and you charge to get around them.
But they, they're, it's broken down.
It looks like Atlantis falling into the sea.
And the people are so brainwashed and so completely
bought in such true believers.
It's, they just, as the line from Fiddler on the roof went,
they're so happy.
They don't know how miserable they are.
And they, and they present that.
And people get persuaded by, Luke, they're having a great time.
This is great.
And they have nowhere to live.
They have nothing to support them.
They are just living in this weird sort of fantasy about the revolution.
And they're living their best life because look at how great this country
is and what we do here.
And they're doing nothing.
They're just falling apart.
And you know, do you know they've been through a previous time like this?
I was talking to someone about who moved from Cuba as a kid.
And they called the last episode like this where they were put on a restriction,
the special time.
That was the special time.
And we all got through the special time by getting together.
And I watch people, Americans get persuaded by this stuff.
It, it is a kind of brainwashing that Americans can be victim to
by visiting Cuba.
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Jillian, it's just crazy to me that the disconnect between these.
The disconnect between these rich influencers,
we'll just go for this perverse tourism as if they were on a safari
versus when I talk to all of my guys that I play basketball every week.
I'd say like 15 out of the 25 guys are Cuban.
When they tell me the stories or just in the last few weeks as Trump has said,
we're going to do Cuban nets and they're so freaking excited.
Because they might have a grandmother there or they had to flee
or live through some god-awful thing.
Versus this guy, he's got internet, he'll be okay.
Two things that we have yet to mention.
Number one, that was CodePink.
That took everybody down there.
CodePink is run by Jody Evans, who is the wife of Neville Roycingum,
who is the billionaire connected to the CCP period and of story.
There is a huge expose on this done by The New York Times in 2023.
So what these dumbasses.
And he's been funding all the Hamas rallies for the last year.
Yes. And by the way, his niece, I just covered this one.
His niece, Alicia Singham Goodwin, is the one who runs Jews from Omdani in New York.
And that bitch is not Jewish.
He is evil to the core.
And Apalina Luna is actually trying to get him brought up on criminal charges under Pharah.
So they are the ones that downplay all of China's human rights atrocities.
Of course.
I don't know.
Harvesting organs from political prisoners.
Or genociding your minority Muslim community, the Weeger community.
So as you downplay all of this evil that China does,
and you go out on Singham's dime to Cuba to promote communism,
that is a completely separate level of evil.
That is not just poverty, safari tourism.
You're either absolutely brain dead or absolutely evil.
And then one other thing I want to tell you about good old Hassan.
Maybe you probably know this.
But I just wrote a piece for the Daily Mail.
It hasn't come out yet about how deep and dark
that mom Donnie's radical circle is.
You know that Hassan was his megaphone to help you get elected.
And this is the guy that said he doesn't care if women were on October 7th.
He said America deserved 9.11.
Yes, Dave.
Dark, dark, dark, evil shit.
So as much as we, as much as I want to make fun of these morons.
Unfortunately, this is way, way deeper and way, way darker.
And people need to be really savvy about what they're dealing with.
Because it's just not as benign as we think it is at all.
Well, Drew, you're, you often point out you're a history,
you're a French history guy.
And it's like, you know, if you just think about it in this sense,
everything these people do is for the revolution.
None of it has to make sense.
Like when they show up there with codepink
and they have internet, nobody else does.
And they're quite literally like giving them food so they dance outside
and telling you that, oh, they're just a partying people who enjoy the weather.
All the hypocrisy, it doesn't matter because it's just for more propaganda
for their revolution, which is the revolution against America.
As James Lindsay always says, you guys must know James Lindsay.
As he always says, the issue is never the issue.
The revolution is always the issue.
Which is bizarre.
Let's face it.
And I, I two more stories jump out of me from my Cuba experience.
One was we went to the Tropicana and on the bus right in,
you get these handlers.
And he said, these are some of the highest paid professionals
on the island.
Some of them make as much as $250 a month.
And then the, and then a different sort of handler was telling me,
she goes, yeah, yeah, the healthcare is amazing.
My grandma, she needed to see the benefit
and we were able to get that for her.
Oh, wow, Doc.
How crazy.
How crazy.
You know, as somebody, as somebody pointed out Hassan in that livestream,
he was wearing, I think, $1,500 Cartier sunglasses.
The average monthly salary, as we understand, is about $240.
So it was me about about six years worth of salary to get those glasses.
It's a mess.
It is a mess.
And again, yeah, it is sad that people fall for this stuff.
You know, when I was there one of the times,
it was with this group called YPO and we met with Castro for several hours.
Wow.
And that was bizarre.
He was manic as hell.
De-railed thoughts weren't connecting.
That was nice to see.
Wow.
How totally wild.
You actually met Fidel Castro.
Yeah.
He came out into, in his green jumper with the grenade belt
and all these guys behind him, you know,
were filing out and sat there for three hours while he rambled
nonsensically much of the time.
He announced that he had discovered himself
that Huntington's disease was an autosomal dominant disorder,
which sent me out of the room.
I was like, okay, I've heard enough.
Wow, Doc.
And he was a great baseball player, you know,
which apparently wasn't a pretty good baseball player,
but he had invented the curveball.
He announced that.
It was so hot.
Oh, really weird.
He invented the curveball.
Yeah.
My goodness.
Did you think about killing him?
Like, I often wonder if I went back in time,
if I'd be one of those people that would have killed it.
Like, you want to shot.
Did you think about just like just jumping on him and squeezing?
No, it did not.
We were there studying the whole situation,
not to intervene.
What about just the Capacito in the face?
Yeah, it was quite something.
They made us file into this room.
There was some sort of meeting room for the government.
It was sort of the best that 1962 Soviets had to offer.
You could see the light coming through
between the ceiling and the walls.
It was really wild.
That's crazy.
Oh, gosh.
Well, I have another crazy one for you.
Yeah, take us to some craziness on our show.
I don't know.
It's almost, it's almost worse.
This is the latest from Hakeem Jeffries.
So as we all know,
the government is not funding TSA because the Democrats
want to neuter ICE when we're at war with Iran.
So ICE is at the airports trying to help people
get through these TSA lines during spring break
that are backed up for hours.
And Hakeem Jeffries was talking to Dana Bash.
And he basically said, you know,
this is a terrible idea because ICE could kill people.
You can't make this shit up.
Take a look.
What's your response to what Tom Homan revealed here?
Well, good morning.
Great to be with you.
There are three things that have been true
since Donald Trump and Republicans came back into power
last January.
Life is more expensive.
Life is more chaotic.
And life is more extreme.
The last thing that the American people need
are for untrained ICE agents to be deployed
at airports all across the country potentially
to brutalize or in some instances kill them.
We've already seen how ICE conducts itself.
These are untrained individuals when it comes to doing
the current job that they have for the most part.
Let alone deploying them in close exposure
and highly sensitive situations
at airports across the country.
Who wants to take this one first?
Dave?
Totally.
All right.
All right.
I'll do it quick.
Look, first off,
I don't call him Hakeem Jeffries.
I call him Timu Obama.
That's what we call him around here
because that's what he is.
He's knock off Obama with none of the real parts.
Life is more expensive, chaotic, and extreme.
I mean, it's all just pure nonsense.
But that aside, the thing about that ICE,
they desperately want you to think that ICE agents
take that job to kill or maim or harm Americans.
Meanwhile, they won't say a word about the 18-year-old girl,
the Loyola student in Chicago,
who was just killed by a Venezuelan illegal,
who not only was illegal,
but also was arrested here in 2023,
and then got out.
They won't say,
and had ICE been allowed to do their job properly,
he wouldn't have been here.
And then JB Pritzker,
the governor of Illinois,
when asked about it,
said, well, Donald Trump's not doing his job well enough,
and that's why the girl got killed.
So everything they say is actually a confession
more than anything else.
But, you know, there's also been a rash of videos.
You guys have probably seen them
where ICE officers are showing up to airports,
and they're being greeted with warmth and smiles,
and people are happy that the lines are moving again.
And you know, because the Democrats,
it's like calling us all racists.
Then you meet one of us,
and you realize it's not a racist,
because they've called them all murderers
in these horrible things.
Then you meet these ICE agents,
and they're at the airport,
and they're at good morning, have a nice day.
Then suddenly, people are thanking them,
and hugging them.
And I saw a video this morning
of a woman asking how her son could get a job with ICE.
So it's just what annoys me about that,
but more honestly, is that is that
Dana Bash just sits there and listens
as if anything he said was remotely true.
That's interesting.
And Dave, to your point,
apparently only three or four airports
were the ones really having the trouble,
and ICE very much helped them out.
And one of them was here in Southern California,
and they went out locally with reporters.
How do you feel about ICE?
Are you afraid?
And they're all like,
no, no, I'm so glad they're here.
They could not find one person to complain.
They kept getting glowing reports.
I think God, I said,
we're moving along.
Let's go.
Guys, you're lovely.
And by the way,
one of Trump's move with the ICE crew
was not letting them wear a mask,
but I think it was very smart.
So you can see their face to see those smiles.
Right.
In that instance,
in that instance,
I think you find them.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah, I see that.
You know what pissed me off a ton,
is that he's,
oh, life has become more chaotic and more extreme.
I'm like,
but here you are,
making sure to inject a new round of fear into people
over federal law enforcement officers,
killing them as they go to take a flight for a spring break.
You don't think that's extreme
or it's going to make things chaotic.
All of this chaos is created by them.
It's basically exactly what you said,
but it's just so infuriating.
And the problem is that people are dying over it,
but you are contributing to this massive powder cake.
So when you've got the Alex Freddy's
and the Renee Goods
who think that they are fighting the Gestapo,
I mean, when I just asked you Drew,
making a strange connection here,
did you try to kill Castro?
Like in my mind,
he's a horrible person.
You would think the person that killed Castro would be a hero.
You know, if you could go back in time,
would you kill Hitler?
Yes, I would try to do so.
They think they're killing Castro.
They're killing Hitler.
And it's because of shit like this
that he came Jeffries is saying on channels like CNN.
But the craziest part of all of this,
as you guys know,
is ice is funded through 2029.
So the DHS, the shutdown and defunding of DHS right now
does not have anything to do with ice.
The Democrats are basically just trying to extract maximum pain
on the American people,
hoping that Americans go to an airport,
you miss your flight or you miss spring break
or you don't get home to see grandma or whatever it is.
And that because people don't pay attention to politics,
most people,
that they'll just be like,
oh, there's a shutdown and DHS isn't working.
I'm going to blame Trump.
So it's the most cynical game
you could possibly ever play.
But that guy is just a very cheap Timo Obama,
like knockoff version that you'd get at Kmart.
You buy him on the street in Fifth Avenue
that goes,
throws out the blanket and there's Hakeem.
And there he is.
Buy two, get one free.
I'm sure we're all racist for saying this.
Oh God, did we just,
you can't really buy the guy?
All right.
Okay, that's fine.
That's right.
That's what today.
Dave, the travel's made you grumpy.
Yeah.
Oh, Dave,
she's, you know what, we need my,
we need my new,
my new gay boyfriend back by the way,
just so you know,
you think that you talked to other people.
I had Brad Palombo here.
Oh, I heard.
How was he?
How was he?
I didn't see one,
we played one clip of the show.
He's very good.
He's super sweet.
He's lovely.
He's no Dave Rubin.
But he's brilliant.
He's a great kid.
He's actually really like him.
Super smart.
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How about that?
So Missouri versus Biden.
Okay. If you know anything about this case,
it's been going on for quite some time.
It went up to the Supreme Court.
And two of my favorite people were,
they actually tried to get me in this thing.
And I now wish I had,
though it would have been distracting,
and God knows what in Israel
would have had to suffer to hang with those guys.
But Aaron Kerriotti is a very fine psychiatrist,
who is the head of the Bioethics Department
of University of California, Irvine,
who preached throughout his training
of the medical students over decades
that the hard part comes when you have to walk the walk.
It's not just talking to talk about bioethics.
It's walk in the walk.
And when he heard about vaccine mandates,
he stood up and said,
guys, I've told you how it's going to be tough.
But I must tell you,
I have to stand up and say,
you do not have the proper bioethical standing
to mandate this vaccine.
He was put on leave,
and then a year later fired.
And this guy is top notch ethical.
He is just an unbelievable human being,
much like the other one of the other plaintiffs,
Jay Bhattacharya,
who when I heard he was being canceled,
I immediately wanted to talk to him,
like, what did he do?
What is this?
Good, that guy possibly have done.
Well, they were both bullied and taken down by the government
who were in the eyes in the words of the court,
jaw boning the companies,
the various social media companies.
And now this suit,
I'm going to give you the specifics here.
Laws who claim the government push platforms
to censor certain viewpoints,
the rules were applied to Facebook,
Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube.
And the finding is that the AG's agencies,
like CDC and the Surgeon General,
are included in the restrictions
from ever doing this for the next 10 years.
Now, the difficult part about this case
is that it is an injunction.
It is a 10-year injunction against doing these things.
And I want to read for you the difference between that
and a adjudicated ruling on the merits.
So this is not a determination made by the judge or jury,
which includes written findings,
conclusions, and legal precedence setting analysis,
where this could now be used as a case
to support other cases.
It's an injunction,
enforceable for 10 years against the Surgeon General,
CDC, and also the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Agency,
CISA, which is amazing in and of itself,
but it's a move forward.
I mean, there's so much here,
because, you know, for the three of us,
all of our kind of redpilling had a huge amount to do with COVID
and all of the inconsistencies and everything else.
And one of the things that I'm really, really proud of
is that when COVID happened,
and I was trying to get people all over the map,
you know, to come on the show and talk about it,
one of the first guys I had on was Jay Bhattacharya,
who I did not know, you know,
it was a Stanford guy,
but I did not know before COVID,
but I saw his name bouncing around.
And I fully, every time I've had him on my show since,
at least a dozen times,
I think with you a couple times, Drew,
I have said to him,
I fully credit him for me not going crazy during COVID,
because he was so calm and sobering during all of that.
That I was just like,
you know what?
I'm just going to kind of stick with this guy.
And if it goes horrifically right, then I can reevaluate.
And it never did.
And I think that's why I largely got a lot of the COVID stuff right now,
as for the specifics around the legality of the injunction
versus, you know, a case decided law and all of those things.
I'm not a lawyer,
so I can't fully analyze that.
The real question is, you know,
does anyone ultimately ever pay the price to, you know,
the institution's obviously Bobby's breaking up a lot of the stuff
over there,
and Jay is obviously involved now,
and we've got Dr. Oz there,
and we've got good people over there.
Social media companies,
there's been a lot of turnover.
It does seem that maybe Zuckerberg,
a little bit better,
and Elon's got X.
So there are things that are moving,
but it always feels to me like,
yeah, it could just all happen again.
There would just be stuff.
Well, but it can't now.
It can't. That's the point.
Can it not?
Well, I don't mean COVID,
but like just something could just happen again,
and we would all drop,
we would all drop it at the first, you know,
well, I'll tell you why,
why there's a problem.
Explain that.
Explain that.
Why can't this not happen again?
Well, this can't happen again,
because they're for big in the next 10 years
from doing what they did
and creating panic through social media.
And I would argue if they do that
with the press is going to be something similar,
there may yet be other cases in that zone,
because the press was out of control.
But the fact is,
the real wrinkle that has to be closed,
has to be managed,
is the wrinkle in the Constitution
around our public health system.
They are given fiat authority and emergencies
to take away our rights,
and that's got to be changed.
I don't know if it's going to be state by state or what,
but that's the loophole
where this could happen again.
Do you guys not think that they could just pull it off again
that even huge swaths of people
who are, you know, let's say on our side now,
if the story was right,
and they just said,
well, it's COVID,
but it's 10 times worse,
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
they just added in three extra variables
that a huge amount of people
would just go back
to the same thing as last time.
I do too, I think so too.
They're already laying the groundwork.
Bill Gates is just functioning
with total immunity,
and he's like,
we're going to have another one.
I'm like, oh, God.
Oh, my God.
It reminds me this is,
again, a bit of a sidebar here,
but did you guys see that James O'Keefe video
where they're getting these fraudulence,
they're getting homeless people to sign up to vote?
And they're paying them to register them to vote,
David, who have not seen this.
I don't think so.
Oh, my God.
You must go see this immediately,
James O'Keefe,
and all these different companies
are getting these fake signatures on petitions,
but they're also registering them to vote.
Of course, in New Sims, California.
And the NGO workers
are telling the homeless people,
just write down that you live on Pinocchio Lane.
This is all happening
in broad daylight,
exchanging cash.
There's hidden cameras grabbing it.
And the reason I bring up Pinocchio Lane
and all of that is because it's just so bold and so brazen.
It reminds me of Bill Gates going,
oh, we're for sure having another one.
And he wrote a book about the next one.
And he wants a private little army
that he can mobilize of like 30,000 people
for the next one.
So yeah, like,
I don't feel great about it, doc.
Well, I don't feel great about it at all.
I think gain of function,
every time they see,
they take a virus that is not prone to pandemic
like the birth,
like it's common,
they're doing gain of function.
Just pay attention.
Well,
why don't we put that back under moratorium again?
Oh, I don't want to.
Actually,
he put that under moratorium and Trump lifted it.
I mean, guys,
let's not forget that Bill Gates
became rich off Microsoft windows
and what destroyed windows?
It was viruses literally.
I mean, every time you remember old school,
windows 95, you'd open it up
and then you'd get just a million pop-ups of viruses.
Yeah.
So he created software
that was destroyed by viruses.
Is that...
Is this sci-fi?
Like, is this a little too on the nose here?
We're...
I don't know.
He's a dark dark soul.
He's a dark dark soul.
He's a dark dark soul.
The simulation is winking at us.
Well, another nice good news.
One more.
One more.
Before we go.
Oh, yeah.
And by the way,
I just think he was the poster child
for the excesses of all that time.
And when he said he was going to be the head of...
He was being considered for NIH.
I literally heard, like,
the voice of God.
Oh, wow.
This is Shakespearean.
Wow.
But here we are.
All right.
Ron Johnson, another hero.
Released 2,000 pages of Department of Health Human Services
on COVID vaccine safety.
I will just distill it down to this.
Lo and behold,
there were severe signs of trouble,
particularly around stroke.
It was mostly in the older population,
but I will tell you categorically,
three things that we have seen a massive uptick on.
I'm not sure on the cancer front yet,
but we'll sort of table that for a second.
But what I've seen over and over again,
atrial arrhythmia is a young man.
Paracarditis is a young man.
And some of that made the atrial arrhythmia is maybe a paracarditis.
Strokes.
Bizarre strokes.
Small strokes and healthy people in weird parts of the brain.
And unusually accelerated coronary artery disease
and single vessels and young people.
Some of it may be COVID,
but most of it in my experience has been vaccine.
So it's coming.
We're beginning to sort of,
the day I'm starting to break on this.
I know a young man,
who's in his early 20s that I think you guys both know,
but I just can't say his name for public purposes,
but I can text you guys after.
But he's, he at least at one time was a public person
and had to take the COVID vaccine to get to stay in college
and now has a heart condition.
It was completely fine before that.
So I know you know,
I'm listening to those stories.
I just saw a video of Fauci the other day
talking about the Johnson and Johnson vaccines
causing clots in the,
in the what's called coprous cavernosis.
And I had that.
I had it.
I woke up with a,
with a,
I had the vaccine.
I didn't want it,
but I was going to Europe.
I'd already had COVID,
but I took it just to say that's a one shot.
I'll take it off.
We can go to Europe.
I get everybody to shut up.
And I woke up with a,
what's called a raccoon eye?
A purple.
I was like,
it's like somebody punched me in the eye.
And that is from clots forming in the corpus cavernosis.
And I thought,
I'm like in the mirror going,
holy shit.
So far at that point,
no men had had that reaction.
And I thought,
if this gets worse,
it's,
it goes to stroke.
It sort of descends into other trouble in the brainstem.
So I, I went through it and I saw a video of Fauci,
a Fauci admitting that that happened.
And that,
and that was Johnson and Johnson,
which I assume you're,
you're happy that you took that
if you had to take one on the three, right?
Well, I still had a major reaction.
Yes.
I, I was,
I don't want the lingering effects,
which is more of what COVID did.
Duck, when do you know
if you're,
if you're past a period of noticing
some sort of side effects?
So like,
if I got this back to you.
That's good question.
And, and could it,
is it additive with COVID?
Is it worse than COVID?
Is COVID the culprit?
The, the big question mark in here is,
has it triggered a progressive problem
with the brain?
Which there's some concern about
with both COVID and the vaccine?
Okay.
And has it,
almost like AIDS,
has it triggered an immune suppression
that increases our risk of cancer
where our cancer surveillance immune function
is suppressed,
not massively,
but sufficiently to cause a statistical uptick
in cancers in young people in particular.
And Drew,
I bet it is.
Yes, on both.
But the question is.
Isn't that what Robert Malone said?
Is that,
that it basically was replicating sort of
what you just described with AIDS,
like a suppressant of the,
of the immune system?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's crazy.
But again, they've not done the research
because everyone's afraid to lose their careers
if they suggest that it's a vaccine.
So it's going to be a while,
because right now it just goes down
under possibly COVID,
possibly the vaccine,
possibly both.
It's,
it is the spike protein, okay?
And the thing that creates unregulated
persistence in the spike protein is the vaccine.
So,
and why we pushed that vaccine against
that,
create to create that molecule is so bizarre.
Once we knew that was a pathogenic mechanism,
we could have switched nuclear capsid,
could have switched to a lot of things.
No.
Keep going.
That's where the insanity is.
Money.
It was the money.
He had invested in those companies.
I did a whole thing on this.
I am telling you,
he was invested in those companies,
but BioNTech,
he made billions of data.
Back to Gates, yes.
There is a whole,
I mean, guys,
I laid this all out in detail
of how this was set up
since all the way back with Epstein in like 20,
what was it,
11, 2014,
something like that.
Well, there was some revealing stuff in Epstein.
You're absolutely right.
There was stuff that was chillingly revealing.
But he funded this tech.
It is so dialogue.
I'm sorry.
It was on tech.
It was about money.
Look, I could have easily be convinced of this tech
at any point in a long way.
I'm still enthusiastic about it for terminal cancers,
where the risk is worth the risk.
You know, where the vaccines were at the risk,
or the shot is worth the risk.
But doing it to otherwise healthy people,
this is next level shit.
Can I pick up one thing
and you tell me just for everybody listening,
Heather Haying told me this.
And I want to make sure I'm not butchering it,
but it really clarified the difference of mRNA technology
versus previous vaccine technologies.
So doc, some vaccines have dead pathogens in them.
And then the ones with dead pathogens have adjuvants,
things added to it,
to try to alarm your immune system.
So in the event your body doesn't react to the dead pathogen,
if you put something in there, like aluminum,
to make your immune,
no, what would you put in there?
It was just to bring it in,
to bring it closer to react to the pathogens.
It's a cause and irritation, let's say.
Yeah.
Okay. So there's that tech.
Then you have ones that have a little bit of live pathogen,
but not a ton,
so that it can't...
Attenduated.
Overwhelmed.
Okay, attenuated.
But mRNA is totally different,
and it is a messenger to tell your own cells
to make a part of that pathogen.
And there's,
we don't know if that ever stops, basically.
That's kind of what she said to me.
Correct.
And then your immune system looks at your own cells
and is like, wait, what the f***?
And then attacks.
That's what Robert Malone was talking about, yeah.
Yeah.
So that's...
That is a...
So in the past,
it has been show the immune system a protein,
create an army of cells against that protein,
so you're ready at hand if you see that protein again.
That's the basic structure of vaccine.
Now we're giving a blueprint to build a protein
in an unregulated fashion
that the immune system will react to,
but your body may keep creating,
and that protein happens to be the pathogen of the virus.
The actual destructive part of the virus.
That's the insanity of all this.
And it doesn't break down.
And people go,
people go,
look at any cell you'll find mRNA.
This mRNA has something called hyperurusil in it,
which is a way to make it more stable,
and it is an abnormal form of mRNA that might persist.
And they kept saying it would stay in the arm.
It did not.
They kept saying it would be transient.
It was not.
And we really don't know the full downstream effects
of all this yet.
Yeah, Mary Talley-Boden told me that.
But that's...
Whatever the heck you just said.
And then Dr. Hazen,
Dr. Sabine Hazen was like,
it was the first one to tell me,
it doesn't stay in the shoulder.
That was all baloney,
and they knew the entire time.
It is really deeply alarming
that you've got a man named virus.
But think about...
Go back to one scene.
But she'll go back to one we were all trying to talk about this.
And if you tried to talk about it,
you literally received death threats.
Yeah.
And on my side,
I could lose my license.
I could all kind of...
Just for saying,
hey, hey, let's...
Let's take a good look at this.
It is disgusting.
And it cannot be...
To stay with...
You know, the brownstone Institute is keeping the winds
and the sale of all this.
Jeffrey Tucker is doing a great job.
He's great.
You can say, you know,
don't forget this.
Don't let it good die.
We've got to...
We've got to close the loop holes
and get justice
and remember what happened.
Tucker was another one.
You know, I credit Jay
on the science side of this.
But I credit Tucker
on the sort of civil liberties side of this
when it came to lockdowns.
He was right out of the gate.
If we do this today,
we will be in this thing for,
you know, two years
and he was completely completely right.
He used to be so awesome.
I'm so disappointed.
I disagree.
I agree.
Yeah, well,
because he's a hyper-liberitarian.
He was awesome.
Okay.
Yeah.
I disagree with the ones about this stuff.
Oh, gosh.
Well, that's...
I mean, that goes without saying.
But there was a lot of stuff
that I ended up learning
from him back in the day.
And now I'm just like,
oh, I didn't know
that we grabbed Maduro
for gay marriage.
Like, you know,
you can't even...
I can't even tune in anymore
because it's apparently
we should be sharing power
with China.
Like, you just...
You're like, all right.
You must have bumped your head.
I don't know.
But I missed that Tucker.
Well, that's cool.
No, no, no, no.
She's talking about...
Julian,
we're talking about Jeffrey Tucker
from the Browns Zone Institute.
Oh, I thought you were going to talk
about Tucker Carlson.
No.
I was like, oh.
Oh, shit.
No, but that's funny.
That's funny because Jeffrey Tucker
is also a hyper-liberitarian.
He's not off the reservation
the way Tucker Carlson is.
But they do share
a little bit of that,
like, hyper-isolationist stuff.
That's right.
I'm talking about vintage Tucker
and that he has said that.
I can see you were getting off the path there.
Oh, gosh.
Well, thanks for the question.
Nothing she said was wrong.
I was like, good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Guys, what are you doing this weekend?
I can't...
We can't end on this minor
clerical error.
We can't end this way.
Drew, what do you got this weekend?
I'm going to go visit my granddaughter
and then the same family
as a grandson coming any minute.
So we're like
doing that down in Orange County.
The...
By the way,
there's a piece of California
that works.
It's called Orange County.
Yeah.
And you literally
lungs filled with air
as you cross the county line.
It's uncanny.
How different it is down there.
Nice.
Well, early congratulations
on that, Jill.
What do you got?
I think I'm going to try to catch
we have no frickin' snow here,
which is crazy,
but there's a little bit left
on the mountain.
So they closed the slopes
April 12th,
and I try to get a little
snowboarding.
Amazing.
We'll see.
Well, we've been...
I've been traveling a lot,
and it's like 75
and perfect here right now.
So we are just going to enjoy
a little pool time
and hang with the iguanas.
That's it.
And I can't ask for anything more.
Fantastic.
I showed up, by the way.
Sage didn't show up.
She tried to get in, like,
five times on the phone.
I got a speeding ticket
to show up.
I'll have to.
You didn't get a divorce.
I got a divorce.
I got a divorce.
I got a divorce.
The cats and the dog
are still in the car, I bet.

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