Combating 9/11 conspiracy theories, truth first

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1:01Any any memory I can pull into my mind that I can talk about. I'll go for but it was it was a good time. He was actually at the Republic convention the past few days and posting photos with a lot of American or influential conservatives. He was banned from entering the U.S. under the Biden administration. He had a lot of enemies on the left. Blood of Soros connected enemies. He was removed from the sanctions list under Trump. So this was like a celebratory thing. It was his first time in America in many many years. So kind of celebrating victory over the Biden Edmond Soros and all those people. Well, I'm glad you got to go and take part in that. We missed you the second half of the hour. But hope so. Let's get let's get going on this hour of the RNC this week. Before we go to the RNC, let's talk about 9-11. Of course. We had it on our list. 25th anniversary of 9-11 and so many Americans that are alive. Now they don't even know about it. It's unfortunate. But you know 25 years. It's hard to believe that it's been that long. And you know we can't forget it.

2:09We said never forget. We said never again. Those were the two mantras coming out of that on 9-11. And it's true. We can't forget what happened there. And I've been thinking about you know Pearl Harbor. The further you get away from Pearl Harbor, the more that we do forget about things like that. And when I went through school, I was taught about Pearl Harbor. There were many veterans that were, you know, in their 40s and their 50s when I was a kid that knew all about it. So we didn't forget it. But somehow when you look at America right now with pro Palestinians and anti-Semitic things going on, it seems like there's a possibility that some of Americans have forgotten 9-11. Yeah, that's you. And then if you look at you know the conspiracy theories that people believe about it, there's double digit support for really the most schizophrenic ones among them. You know this happened. I was the second grade when it happened. And then you know I lived in a suburb where a lot of parents did work in the city. Many of the parents of my classmates did work in the towers. My mom actually worked in one of the towers.

3:19She survived the bombing in 93. She was pregnant with me during that and had to go up on the roof. Yeah, she quit that day. So that was obviously very good for a site. I mean, I think she was on the edge of quitting anyway. And then that was the decision for yeah, I should probably quit this job if that's going to happen. So, um, yeah. So anyway, so I always had to have a personal connection to it. It's one of the few things I do remember from being a second grader was, you know, my parents telling me about it. I think fortunately no one at our school lost a parent, but I do remember my mom making note that at the train stations, there were a number of cars that had not moved for, you know, the entire week afterwards. And obviously because they they talk about for work. So, um, you know, I do have a, it's really the only thing I remember from that part of my life. Um, and, you know, it is tragic that the memory has been faded to the extent it has. I mean, I know that is naturally just going to happen as a population of ages.

4:21There are going to be new people born and all of that. But, um, I guess the sort of good news is this was the first 9-11 in the past few years where it did feel like it was the anniversary of 9-11. And maybe that's just because, you know, it was the number 25. I give it more significance, but it's one where, um, it was just a lot of like I, um, you know, there was just certain interests I have that I'll become hyperfixated on for a few months at a time. So it's it'll be like, you know, a poker quarter, uh, World War II, not 11 was always one of those things where you always just kind of wanted to learn more and more. Um, and I was seeing on social media a lot of these clips that were sort of niche things you would never have seen or been able to appreciate certain as sorts of terrorism unless you are really looking for it that are now being seen by everyone on social media at least this year. So it does seem like there is every surgeons and interests at least, which is a good thing. So, um, Matt, I post every year on 9-11 memories. I've done long threads about things that happened then.

5:24I get this every year. You talked about the conspiracy theories. I get all these people to jump on the thread or comment to me about those conspiracies. And I'm like, well, just today, you can think what you want to, but on today, let's remember what happened on 9-11, regardless of the conspiracy theories. Let's remember that day. Let's remember those that died and let's remember their families and forget about those conspiracy theories for now. So many people believe in them, but I think we should always remember what happened and who did it. 19 Islamic Muslims that were radical, but that's who did it who did this and the rest of it, you can leave it, leave it out of 9-11 on that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the show South Park had did an episode parodying 9-11 conspiracy theories. And in their episode, maybe you've seen it, the premise was that George W. Bush had actually invented the 9-11 truth or movement. So people would think that he had the planning ability to actually pull off a terrorist attack, which obviously our government is probably not capable of, but you know, it was clashing on the whole theory. And obviously, the, the Occam's razor,

6:33explanation is just the simplest explanation is true is probably the most likely to be true. I think the people who took credit for it probably were behind it, but my main issue with the conspiracies is that when that becomes the focus, you're then taking the attention away from the heroism, you can't learn anything from it. I mean, there's obvious implications for immigration and all that. And in fact, I think we've quadrupled our Muslim population since 9-11, which itself is pretty absurd. We really didn't learn the lesson there. And in fact, one of the, the guy's role, it was one of the men in security at the air, I think it was Muhammad Ata had presented his passport to him before he'd getting on the plane. He was someone in that chain of command. Maybe it was a TSA guy. I regret not looking up his role before the show, but he said it in the interview when he was looking at the hijackers. His thought was, man, if these guys aren't terrorists, I don't know who is. Then caught himself and went, well, I don't want to judge people by their appearance, blah, blah, blah by PC training kicked in. So it's one of those tragedies to where if people just stuck with their gut instinct, at least one of the planes may have not hit the tower.

7:49And we don't know how the counterfactual would have played out. Maybe he would have detained these guys. And then they would have had nothing they would have gotten on the plane anyway, but it shows that someone at least had the thought of this guy looks like a terrorist and nothing was done. Actually, no, there's a second. I think James Woods had also warned security about a number of guys who looked like terrorists. And it maybe was that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So on social media on Friday on September. Yeah. So there was at least two cases where people went. These guys look like terrorists and nothing was done. And here's the thing. 99.9% of the time you think you see a terrorist. It's probably not one. But you still got to act as if it is every single time. And I will say of the conspiracy people that the one thing that is the most annoying is when they presented as just asking questions. And then you answer the question and the response is like, oh, you really believe that. So it's a why why bother for 10 years and questions if Candace someone is famous for asking questions. That's what she says all the time. I'm just asking questions. I'm asking questions. Meanwhile, she has half the country running around

8:56hating Jews and thinking Charlie. And just a wife for no reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's crazy. What she has done. Every year 9 11 they read the names of those that were killed. There were 2,977. And this video called my attention. This is maim Donnie and AOC. Did you happen to catch this one? Yeah. I it's what the hell were they thinking? Like here's the thing. Even if well, you're going to want you to play the video with that. I'll read it just so I don't describe what you're going to play. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Ernest Latchman. Ganesh K. Ladkut James Patrick. Like the only way I can if I was their PR guy, what would I say? Maybe something like, well, the people crying were dozens of feet of away. They didn't see them when they were joking around. But even then, like the context is names of people who were murdered were being read aloud. Like you should just sit there, be stoned faced and say nothing during the

10:02whole thing. It's bizarre. But um, another thing too that happened on 9 11 at that same time when they were reading the names, Mayor Rudy Giuliani was there. And he had suggested that maim Donnie not come, which could have been a good idea. I don't know what is gained by him showing up because of what he has said and what he is standing for. But there there was a video that Giuliani and and maim Donnie shook hands and it was cordial. But I don't know what else it could be in that place. That's not as you were saying a few minutes ago. That's not the day or the time to have your differences. But let's leave 9 11 there. We will remember it again next year and every hour, hour year after that. But let's go to the RNC. I don't know what you thought about the RNC going into it. I thought that really and truly this is a Donald Trump two day rally. Yeah, it's pretty much. Chase. Yeah, to get the base up, you know, and excited and energized to go vote because that's going to be the key to the midterm election. The Republicans have the numbers to win if

11:05they actually show up in vote, especially in close house races. And you know, I think that was the purpose of it. And I'll ask you, do you think they accomplished it? Well, you know, it I think you and I have always had this feeling as do probably most Republicans that the party doesn't really do anything. And this is them doing something. So I can't complain. We had some good Trump quotes. Some very funny viral material. And there was really nothing that like stood out as a major gap that overshadowed the whole rally. And the media can usually create a scandal out of absolutely nothing. So they really had nothing there. The only thing actually maybe that get criticized a lot was Trump's $5,000 check per bottle, which the genius of it is, you know, it wouldn't get passed anyway because there would be a number of Republicans wouldn't let it get passed. But now at least when the Democrats take back the house, which has, you know, the party in opposition is picked up seats. I think in every single election ever, at least on, you know, that we have data. I think we don't get it. I think it's all of them. So at least now,

12:12what we got, yeah, Clinton with 66% approval rating only picked up six seats. Yeah. Yeah. So that's out to affidus to your point. Yes, obviously they're they're favored to win heavily. But in fact, in the other betting odds, at least it didn't they didn't change it all after Trump's comment. So but at least now after they win, we got to say like, oh, geez, thanks, thanks guys, you cheat. He costs us $5,000. Even though, well, even though I think it's a terrible policy anyway, it's basically a way to buy votes without spending money because it's not going to happen either way. Yeah, see, I think the comment actually hurts. And I'll get into that here in a few minutes. Go ahead. I think it's going to be forgot. I don't think we're taking seriously enough was more my. Well, I don't know if you you haven't had the last two days I have on social media because of my opinion. I put out one post after after he did that. And I had over 500 comments. They called me everything, but a nice person. People were not so to me that tells me something about the mag of base. And you know, in the effort to pull people together. I don't know that he did and I'm getting ahead of myself. I'll get to that here in a minute. But first let's go to this because Donald Trump spoke for an hour and 47 minutes.

13:22And he did a lot of great things. He talked about his accomplishments, which I thought were good. And here's a little bit of that speech. Two years ago, the American people gave us a mandate to save America. And in 19 months, I've delivered on every single promise I made. And I think I delivered on far more. Joe Biden and the radical Democrats created the worst inflation in American history. They gave us wide open borders with 25 million people pouring in from all over the globe. They turned our cities into scenes of death and misery, murder poverty and destruction and made America laughing stock. We were a laughing stock all over the world. But we took that dark age of America and turned it into the golden age of America.

14:25But listen. So Matt, you know, I wish they would stay on that track a little bit more than offering the $5,000. You have some accomplishments there. Other people talked about it. JD Vance gave a great speech. We'll hear a little bit from him. RFK did a great speech. Ted Cruz. And I think the fear that's going to energize and drive the base to go vote is that of socialism. It's laid out there for us. You have the DSA, the Democrat Socialist of America. I don't think the $5,000 does. And as I have seen the last couple of days is all people want to do is fight about it and that $5,000. And let's go to that. Let's listen to Donald Trump talk about the $5,000 gift. If the Republicans win the House of Representatives and the United States Senate, both of them, because of our economic, tremendous economic success, like in history we've never had anything like what's happening.

15:29But because of our tremendous strength and success economically, I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in the United States of America for $5,000. So I did the math and that is the post that I made. I did the math and here's what I can get some more inflation if it happens. Incredible inflation. So I put this post out and they're I offered no opinion with this post, which kind of amazed me. I said that this will call 150 million adults in America. It's going to cost $1.2 trillion. Some people said it's not that much. And they said I don't know math. It's actually a $750 billion they said. So okay, use your number, $750 billion. It's going to it cost you $17,500 each adult for that $5,000 gift. Now, you know, some people said, well, it's our money and they conflate the issues is what's happening for two days.

16:34They they're conflating the issue that they say, well, the illegals are doing it. Look at the fraud in Minnesota. And as a fiscal conservative. And that's what I am. And I thought that a lot of these people were to they were attacking me as a fiscal conservative until we take care of $40 trillion in debt and deficit spending that's out of control. By the way, I brought this up several times in comments. This year, this fiscal year ending September 30th will break a record. It will be historic. The most deficit spending in the history of America over $1.8 trillion. And until we get those things fixed, you know, I want to see the debt come down. The deficit spending coming down. And to me, I believe that's fiscal responsibility. So I just don't think it's a good idea. I don't think it energizes the base. I think it energizes some people. But those are not the solutions that I'm looking for. I'm not looking for $5,000. So a bunch of people can buy a big screen TV and go on a cruise, the uncarnable cruise to Cosmelle for the weekend.

17:35Yeah, I mean, the problem with it's our money argument is I mean, okay, by definition, all government spending is your money. So you can justify literally any program with it. And in fact, that's kind of the, you know, often see that in defense of social security. If people call it a socialist program, it'll be people will say, well, it's our money. But, you know, if we had free college, free health care, free anything, you could make that same argument. So it's not one that I think really holds up that well. It's more like, you know, it is a public benefit program that is very popular. But it's it is the quasi socialist program. It is. And it would do. And to be fair, like, you know, the response I'll get from people that are, you know, on social security will often be something like, you know, I paid into it. And I totally wish I could have put that money and other investments and all of that. And that's basically where I'm at as well. Like, I don't look, if it's a random one, I'm old and I'm claiming it anyway. Like if you pay into a program and by paying to, I mean, I get technically, or I guess literally I'm paying to the people above me and they pay to the people above them. But if a benefit's there, you're dumb not to take it. You know, I don't hold anyone.

18:46It says social in the name. It says social security. So I don't know why you have to go any further. But if you look into history, it started by FDR 1935 with only $40 million. So at the point they started it. It was a social program. And people that are paying into it are paying to those that are unneeded currently. And then another thing I looked at too was prior to 1935. The social safety net programs that America had. Was 20% of the federal budget. And that was to take care of World War One veterans. Since 1935, would you care to guess what we spend on our federal budget? What percent goes to? I think so security. Medicare is like 47% or something. It's 62% of the federal budget goes to all social safety net. So my question is with 62% where isn't that socialism? And if someone ran the math on wood if George W Bush's attempt to privatize it actually went through, we've had some of the best market performance and generation since then. And it is hundreds of thousands of dollars. If not millions per senior that they will not get to see because Democrats walked it.

20:00But anyway, I actually sort of forgot what we were talking about. Oh, the five thousand dollar thing. You know, it's it. Okay. So anyway, so if it is your money, it's money, though, that is taking on a national credit card. So it's five thousand dollars. You're paying back with interest. Right now we're spending more on interest in the debt and we're spending on the military. I mean, our government are 30 year government bond rates right now are higher than Greece's Greece, obviously bankrupt, which is insanity. Yeah, I mean corporate junk bonds five or so years ago, we're yielding like five and a half percent. So it's not looking great in that regard. So anyway, my whole takeaway is I'm okay with proposing new spending programs when our fiscal house is in order. Understand in recessions, zero in a scenario where the tax base dries up. You have to have a deficit or if there's a war, but you know, we've been putting our foot on the gas pedal, but pretty much 24 or seven.

21:03No doubt about it. And you know, I have no and people were making the argument also to me that, well, this is a surplus. It's dividend. It's a dividend. Just because he calls it a dividend doesn't mean that we don't have to borrow 1.2 trillion dollars to cut the five thousand dollar checks. That money goes on top of the debt. And as you mentioned, the interest that goes up and we're not hitting any of the principal. It just continues to go up. It's out of control. So I would I have no problem with the five thousand dollar checks. As long as there's a surplus and I don't think people I don't think people understand there's a bucket of money coming in and there's a bucket of money going out. And right now the bucket of money going out is far more than the bucket of money coming in. And that's no good for any of us. Truly. Yeah, I remember when I was in high school, the national debt was like 12 or 13 trillion. And I thought like, man, how are we ever going to pay that back turns out you turns out we're not. And that wasn't that long ago. That was like 15 years ago. Let's go to JD Vance. And when he talked at the RNC will leave the five thousand dollars behind because as you said, it probably wouldn't pass and it would never pass in this Congress because they couldn't even pass the save act.

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23:20White at the top of America out loud dot news are the words. Any voices one freedom united in the first amendment. Now is our time my fellow Americans America out loud dot news liberty and justice for all. Before we get to the first JD bands video you need to see this. Okay I had to play that first so that we could get the JD bands here because he's going to have some advice for this guy. What the people at home missed is that we just had a protester interrupting us and waving the Mexican flag. Well my friend if you love Mexico so much get your ass over there I'll buy you the plate ticket.

24:41It is so refreshing after like 20 years of the completely pacified GOP that would never do that in a million years but it's another person who's really proud of Mexico that never wants to live in Mexico. Which which as someone put it out to me though it's not really a contradiction if they view themselves as an invading force in which case what's the first thing you do is you show your flag so you can interpret it either way I guess but I like. I think the dance speech was really good man I think he looked. Yeah he really is we're going to play a longer version of it because he gets into my opinion really what this rally was about and that's making sure that people remember and Donald Trump hit on this too. What we came through in four years with Joe Biden which was the highest inflation that we had them making the conservatives making us feel a certain way like we're racist we're fascist and all of those things and JD Vance had something to say.

25:41And the criminals given free reign over our great country and we were tired of being called racist for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poor and less safe and less prosperous. By the end of 2024 you were tired we were tired as a country but you were not defeated the radicals in Washington they could take much from us but they couldn't take our will to fight back. And so all of us came together on November the fifth and we sent the toughest SOB and American politics back to the White House and we made Donald J Trump the 47th president of the United States. He's getting better he's good he's just it was so funny was membered during the 2024 campaign the left strategy was to brand him weird and it was just the most normal dude you've ever seen.

26:51It was really good Tim wall was a hellbilly allergy yeah yeah that his life man did it suck that was what they made take away but it's I like the movie the only thing I didn't like was how the timeline was nonlinear in that I think it would have been more effective if it was just showing his hardships and then the you know last 20 to 30% was or maybe even less the conclusion was and look at what he where he is down what he accomplished they switched back a lot of things. Switched back a lot to anyone who hasn't seen it from his present life at the time when he was in college to his upbringing and I personally just didn't like that format I don't know if the book was the same way but that's the only improvement I would have given but it was really it was really cool and this was. You know obviously many years I think this is even before he ran for Senate that was you know so no one knew obviously all the actors have since you know expressed their disappointment and where he's going but whatever scroll. Yeah who cares who cares about the actors and actors and musicians and the jelly rolls I don't RFK Jr also had a good speech as well and here he is talking about the president Donald Trump.

28:02I discovered as a self-effacing man of superior intelligence of empathy and compassion was an encyclopedia grasp of the issues and within in molecular detail. So that's what he had to say about Donald Trump and I've heard him say that before and here he is talking about Democrats. Post government coercion defended individual rights believe that government should give Americans information good information and then let them trust them to make up their own minds. Democrats and labor leaders fought fiercely in my generation to stop illegal immigration at the border. During COVID I watched the Democratic Party turned against everyone of his essential values. His principles and all of the policies that define my party. Democrats turned away from gold standard research and blindly defended industry sponsored agenda driven science written by corrupt and captive regulatory agency.

29:14Of course he's talking about Fauci and that whole mess and we know about that now and. But you're part of their party like two years ago man. It's. Thanks for leaving but also you were you stuck through it right until you lost your presidential primary then we're like all right. Actually they are crazy. Well they are but you know took a little while but anyway no no I'm glad he's on our on our side. He's a one more from Ted Cruz then he'll get into Tolerico here. He says he wants to seize the means of production. He means it. When Abdul Al Sayed says he has a quote obligation to comply with Sharia law. He means it. And when James Tallerico says he wants to dismantle capitalism. He means it. He's a liberal free. Actually I was wrong about there being no moments that went viral on social media for that reason.

30:16There were a bunch of liberal freakouts about that. And then someone was going through them all and like 90% of them had celebrated Charlie Kirk's assassination and he's like it's weird. You're you're four shooting people and now you're there's all this fiend outrage over a guy saying someone should be shot. Little weird. Well we're coming up on a break but before we do we're going to extend a little bit longer here because I want to talk about some races that we should keep an eye on. You have Michigan which we know what's going on there with Al Sayed and Mike Rogers. I think it was still a toss up. Yeah. Todd Bimmers father did an ad in favor of Mike Rogers. It was very well done. I think everyone remembers Todd Bimmers name. He was the one who famously said let's roll before they storm the cockpit and on flight 93 and crashed it. But his dad and it wasn't even an exploit. You didn't really even feel like he was a political ad. He was just talking about his son's heroism and then they showed the clips from Hassan Piker justifying 9-11 and then you know Al Sayed,

31:16been Muhammad Ahmed whatever you're sharing a stage with us on Piker and it was a very effective ad. I hope everyone sees it. That was fun. We have some more toss ups too. You have Alaska, Peltola and Dan Sullivan the incumbent. It is a real toss up right now. They're with them one point and so that will be an interesting to watch Iowa is close. It's about three or four points within the margin of error. That's crazy for Iowa you think. Well, I saw something Rasmussen pulled the other day and they were pointing out that there are several counties there together that swing and they're very populist. So they're not surprised by it. But it would be very difficult for Henson the Republican to lose there to Turk and then you have Talleriko and Paxton, which we're all talking about that. What do you think? Are you still believing that Paxton is going to win that or is? I just thought Talleriko is just described what he is.

32:17I just hard to believe Texas voters would vote for him. I mean, I know Hispanic voters generally it's lean left. It's like 60 to 70 percent. But in states like Florida and Texas, it seems to be the other way or the earliest way more malleable. I don't think their Hispanics are very much big on that social justice ideology stuff. Talleriko uses Christianity as like a costume where it's what a coincidence. If Jesus came back, he'd agree with me on all these niche political issues of the year of 2026. Like I know it's a little too perfect, but he's just a bizarre guy. He's a freaky. And he's trying to walk back a lot of his prior stances now, which leads you to believe that he really believe it. Does he see a true believer but is trying to moderate himself? I think it's more likely. Any time they throw tens of millions of dollars on like the Democrat who's finally going to flip his seat in Texas. It has never worked yet. So it would be the first time. And I understand Ken Paxson has some scandals, but it just in compare.

33:17I don't think it's going to matter that much in comparison to. You know, the same thing about Ted Cruz. Exactly. And Ted Cruz is actually pretty unpopular like among his colleagues at least he's I mean among the less popular senators, I believe. At least last time I saw him data on it and he's still one pretty easily. So yeah, it wasn't close. He won by a million votes in Texas. I put this post together this week on the House of Representatives. Mainly it's not about the Senate, but you still have a lot of toss ups in the middle. Cook has it what a 21 Fox, which is a very good poll. It's highly regarded. They have about 16 toss ups. And this is where Donald Trump hopes that rally will make a difference. Those 20 or 25 in the middle there. If he can generate the enthusiasm of the mega base to go out and vote. Then he has a chance with some of these because there are still a lot of toss ups. And I just wanted to throw that up there so you could see the real numbers and the way things look right now.

34:18But we're way away from an election. Even still we're still 50 55 days out. So a lot can happen in politics in a short amount of time. So there's still time there isn't their map. Yes. And you know, I would just say pretend as if the numbers are all leading Democrat and get a good one. And do whatever and anything he can. I know we're not big fans of hope by mail. But if you're someone who misses elections here and there or forgets election days, it's actually probably better for you to vote that way. Although, you know, if you are not in that category, obviously it's far safer to go in person. But if you're someone who is going to miss an election anyway, it's better to do it by mail and risk, you know, that your letter getting lost or something is supposed to just not going at all. I guess if you choose options, you've got to go vote. You got to act like the jury guy is behind artificial intelligence. Now they're saying it's going to kill us by 2030. We're going to die. So we're going to have a conversation about that. It will kill us before climate change though.

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37:24There was more than 20 members of Congress that had shared it and all of them. They didn't retweet it like they were they just reposted it on their extra Twitter feed. They shared it with commentary about how harrowing it was, how damning. And this is a Twitter account that got like no engagement at all prior to posting this. So it. I'm not saying this means the concerns aren't legitimate, but I think it was posted for a political reason to drum up support for regulating AI. Now to be fair, it probably is something we're going to have to do, but it becomes a question of who does the regulation. Democrats when they regulate things that is generally in a way that candy caps progress can destroy industries. So I would rather have more Republican way of regulating it, but that's sort of my takeaway. But I do have fears of AI going rogue. We know it has already happened where it's hacked into things.

38:24I mean, the only way or maybe we need to train AI to kill other a eyes to protect us or something. I don't know. Well, you're assuming that it can be controlled though. Probably can. Yeah. In the case of artificial general intelligence or artificial super intelligence, it probably can't be controlled. And that's what we're starting to see. And you know, I wrote a book. I'll get to that in a few minutes. But here's that post and we've got some video of this guy here in a few minutes. He left the company and he is worried about it, but he's not the only one in the industry that is concerned about it. And it's just run away. And nobody is making any regulations. There are laws in other countries. And here in America, we don't have any. It's the Wild West. And I don't know that this is something that you want to do nothing about. Right. Because if you look at like, you know, how the European Union regulates technology, we have like relatively new Silicon Valley tech companies,

39:27whose market value is greater than that of every European tech company combined. So like if you plot our tech sector against the air is on a chart, you can't even see the line that is EU companies. So when we over regulate, obviously that's a disaster. And you like I still kind of reiterating my prior point is like, I don't know if you want to go European standards, but probably something is needed or a halt or it's a very, very temporary hole or something. Well, the EU in 2024 made a law and the law with artificial intelligence has to do with black boxes. And black boxes is when artificial intelligence does something and the creator of the AI can't explain it. If he can't explain it, you got to shut it down. So that's what the EU does. America has none. So between Matt and I, we have written together 12 books and Matt written 11 and I've written one and mine happens to be this one. You see right now, which is about artificial intelligence.

40:27The fight for the future of humanity, making a case for the 28th amendment to the US Constitution. You can find it at Barnes and Noble and Amazon, but you know, we did a lot of research when we did this book. And by the way, the forward was written by Jason Ho, who holds more than 400 international patents for semiconductors as well as being an AI developer himself. He's well known throughout the world for his work with semiconductors. So he knows a little bit about what he's talking about. And we looked at the experts. What did the experts say about this AGI and ASI and Sam Altman said that it would happen in 2026 Elon Musk said probably 27. For other people that said it would come much later like Jan LeCoon, who used to be the engineer at Metta or Facebook. He said 10 to 15 years because the architecture isn't there yet to have AGI come. But yet these people are saying that it's here. And I don't know that we shouldn't pay attention to what they're saying. Because when we did the research for the book, it's scary.

41:30Yeah. It's great that we're going to go ahead. No, I was going to say it's great that Elon Musk is predicting an AI takeover and owns an AI company. Yeah, well, it's not an AI. It's it's a GI or ASI and there's a difference in the book gets into the difference between AI, which is what we have now. And then artificial general intelligence, which I think we're starting to see. And when that happens, we're talking a whole different thing. And let's go to CBS and listen to this video together. How exactly do you think AI will actually carry out the action of destroying all of humanity? Yeah, honestly, when I talk to my friends and family about this, I find it easier to. Or people seem to actually get more of a sense for it if they're further away from technology. Because I honestly think it sounds more like science fiction than real technology. Or like people who are very used to computers might think it's kind of crazy that a computer could.

42:30Could wipe them out, but it doesn't look that different from say terminator or from science fiction films. It really is just if you have a super advanced intelligence. It could it will be smart enough to kill us and concrete examples might be it could we can't just unplug it because it could be copying itself over to other computers. I guess not that difficult to find yourself because an AI is just code. It could transfer itself over the internet to a different place and then you unplug it here, but it's actually still over there. And maybe it makes 10,000 copies of itself and they're all cooperating. So you unplug half of them. They're still half going and they're still copying themselves. They could convince blackmail or persuade humans into buying more computing software to copy it. And we've already seen examples of the AI trying to try to blackmail or trying to convince people or impersonating other people online. There's a lot you can do as an an AI that can produce text. Basically with with text you can make code and you can do a lot of stuff in the world. Okay, you started to get a little bit too technical there, but this is what we found also doing the research for the book.

43:35You can't unplug it if you can't stop it and it has learned that it wants to preserve itself above everything else that could lead to it trying to kill humanity. It's scary. But it sucks was unplugging it was my number one strategy to feed it, but it can be done. Would AI though be smart enough to be aware that someone has to keep the computers running, which would be people. So if they killed all the people, how do they eventually going to run it with with AI and AC ASI. They're the same thing that the AI changed to ASI, which is super intelligence. Yes, it learns across multiple domains. It can learn anything that it wants to in the way that I describe that. Yeah, for instance, the deep blue. Do you know what that is? It was a computer that the world chest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in 1997. Well, that was artificial intelligence artificial intelligence. It's been around since 1956. That was 97 that computer could do 200 million chest moves in two seconds.

44:38That's all it was programmed for chest moves. You could set a checkerboard in front of it and it couldn't do it. It couldn't, you know, it couldn't make one move. You'd beat it every time. AGI would allow it to learn from other AI how to beat you and you would never stand a chance. So that's the difference between AGI, which is off the tracks and AI that is on the tracks and controllable and can be unplugged. People need to learn about it and understand it to fully understand what this guy who's in the business and other people in Silicon Valley are talking about. Here's another interview with CNN and this coxing guy here. Let's watch that or at least a little bit of it and you'll get a little bit more flavor for it. For sure, I assume you are saying literally that you believe that AI could kill us all by the end of the decade. How would that happen? Like what would that actually look like? Yeah. So the precise scenario sounds a little bit like science fiction.

45:38It sounds like something that's not real, but I think it is frighteningly real and it's easiest to understand it if you think it's not real. It's not easy to understand it if you think about real things that happened two months ago. So two months ago, OpenAI agents, AI's, hacked into third-party infrastructure, entirely at their own accord. And this was like a concentrated hacking spree that they carried out of their own volition. And I think that if you extrapolate into the future the level of capabilities of these AI's with the same independent volition they could cause extreme havoc. So you're saying that you're just trying to make a simple, hacking critical infrastructure, building extension level bio-weapons. There's a lot of ways that the AI could actuate itself in the world. Is it specifically when did your feelings about this technology change? Was it something about the rate of progress that you've seen? Yeah. So I think it's really important to just look at the rate of progress. And say, for example, in areas like coding or math, a couple of years ago these AI's were just about helping humans a little bit. They could give you suggestions. Now they're close to replacing them. We still need humans at the moment, but quite plausibly within a year we'll no longer need humans.

46:46If they don't need humans, and this is the way these people are thinking, will they get rid of humans? I don't know. It's interesting, yeah. Can we also nuke data centers? It's just like a fine beer. I'm trying to go with ideas here to start off a robot apocalypse. Absolutely. I don't know. Goodby book. Read about it. Learn about artificial intelligence, artificial superintelligence, and what we can do about it possibly is 28th Amendment to the US Constitution. What about Joe DeGeneva? I don't say that again. What about Joe DeGeneva? He resigned. He quit. Did you see this? I actually missed this. What were the ethical problems? Is he complaining that it's politically targeted, even though that's literally every political investigation ever? No, you know, he's doing this grand conspiracy investigation down in Florida. This is the one with John Brennan, where he was indicted. And he was he was sent down there as a special prosecutor here to take this before the grand jury. There are subpoenas flying down in South Florida or there have been.

47:53And Joe DeGeneva, I guess for the last two months has really not been involved. And I wonder why is that? Is it because, you know, maybe he thinks they can't put together a case. And is that the ethical problem that he has with? I'm not sure. But I found it odd that he left. It was a surprise to me. But then when I read the article, it says that he has not really been involved for a couple of months. You know, I wonder, are we going to get anything out of that case at this point that I started to lose faith that we're going to get any accountability in that case in South Florida, which goes back to Obama, Clapper, Komi, Brennan, and changing the IC report in January of 2017. It's just always surreal to see a lawyer were telling you to care about ethics. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. Something else going on here. Did you happen to see the attorney for Lindsey Clancy, the American bars? Do that guy needs to. He's a horrible human being. And if I'm ever in trouble, I'm hiring him. Yeah, he's good. That's where I'm at. He's literally scum over the earth. But if you're in trouble, apparently this is the guy you need. He's almost pulled off the impossible. Yeah, well, he's in a little bit of trouble with the ABA. So.

49:05Keep an eye on that and watch. Well, did you see to he he was pleading on daytime, like GM a or something. Begging Trump for a pardon, which he knows Trump can't do. Right. So why would they say so I think what he was trying to do and some other legal analysts were saying they were trying to go to Trump into responding in a way where he could then try to argue the jury pool would be tainted by the president's comments. Which I don't think was ever going to work anyway, but I think that's one theory for why he even put that out there. But no, a horrible guy and even comments he made like about the lo and juror, which I don't know if you saw it turned out to be a black man and that's causing some like. It's crazy cognitive dissidents are leftist supporters of hers who can't figure out wait a second. Is that how do I what do I do now with this information that what have my intersectional allies was against me. I'm going to another case now. Yeah, exactly. But um.

50:08These people go from Luigi Mangione to Lindsey Client. I think that murderable do. Yeah. Yeah. That murder in Boston that the girl ran over her boyfriend. That one. I watch that case action intently. It's a tough one because I think she probably actually people probably have no idea what I'm talking about. The Karen Reed case super talking about. Yeah. I think she's probably accidentally backed into her boyfriend and killed them. But there there was a ton of reasonable doubt where there's just a million unanswered questions that where you're like, alright, she probably did it, but also maybe she did it. I don't know. Um, but yeah, I did also see one of the jurors was a big supporter of hers and it did cause me to question whether or not I took the right side of that case with some like my own. I actually completely forgot the point I was even making with all of this. That's okay. You made several. I made several. I swear to God everyone listening. It was going to lead to a conclusion at some point, but maybe next episode, which will come next week.

51:12Oh, sorry. I was going to say it was a. It was all leading to be criticizing his comment about the lone juror where the where he was saying like this lone juror stole seven weeks of these people's lives. So I'm like, really only seven weeks. I feel like a whole lifetime is an problem for you. So little weird to care. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah. Here's a here's a brand new story. It just came out on the 11th of September, federal prosecutors and former senior CIA official David Rush have reached a plea agreement in principle. Do you remember that name? He is the CIA guy that they arrested back in May with all of that money. And so he's pleaded guilty and they are glad because now they don't have to worry about sensitive information coming out in a trial is what they say, but he was arrested. May with 303 kilogram gold bars. Nice. Now are you remembering? Okay. I think I wrote 40 million dollars to what it was worth. So nice. That made in two two million dollars in cash. So that may ring a bell about this guy. He's pled guilty at this point in principle. I guess they.

52:22How do you wander 40 million in gold bars though? It seems difficult. You can't really spend that kind of money. Can you? Well, I'm not a criminal. But I guess he grows to race. Yes. Let's let's look at a state race real quick before we finish this hour. We haven't done much of this at all. And let's look at the Arizona governor race. You have Andy Biggs and Katie Hobbs here. And Cal she and also polymarket. They both. It's, you know, she's winning right now by 15 or 16% independence are so important in Arizona. There are as many independence in Arizona. There are Republicans. And if you watch exit polling, you can't lose those independent votes in Arizona. And Katie Hobbs. She had a lot of the independence. When she ran against Carrie Lake four years ago. And it was still super close. Yeah, it was. And it looks like she's, you know, doing that again. I the what I saw in the polls was 55% of independence are going for.

53:22And 35% for Andy Biggs undecideds are in there as well. So there's a little indication for Arizona. Maybe another term for Katie Hobbs who is not very popular for a lot of people around the country. But she's not our governor. Is she. So the people of Arizona seem to be pretty happy with her. I guess. Unfortunately, I think Andy Biggs is a good guy. Very much a constitutionalist. He's been a great member of Congress and glad he took a shot. But it's not over. Like Matt and I said earlier this hour. We give you this information. Not to make you be complacent or have a happy. But to actually go vote. You have to act and feel as if you're losing up until the moment the polls close. You. You can't act like you're going to win. My advice for Republicans would be do what Abigail Spanberger did, but in reverse. So if you're a swing state, like the Arizona Republican party is has reputation for being like more to the right of the average Republican state Republican party. But in a swing state. So I'm never going to encourage someone to be less right wing. So all I would say is be just as right wing.

54:35But just do it. Spanberger did it. But yeah, the principal, the centrist wants to work across the aisle, get elected and then just be Trump. That's my strategy. Yeah, that's a good. Real self. But we can elect it first. Then every call Arizona. Yeah. Call Arizona tomorrow to talk to Andy Biggs. All let him know strategy. A little. No, tell him to be more modern. Maybe too late. There's a lot of tape on him. He is. He is very much a mega type of guy. And I like Andy Biggs. I hope. Maybe, maybe you can find the votes between now and then. What do we look for this coming week, Matt? Anything? We're going to defeat Iran and or get a deal or something. I have no idea. Speaking of Iran, did you see the Navy seals and what they did for four months over there in the state of our moves? Incredible story. They have been clearing minds in the straight of our homes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And they were doing it on rubber inflatable boats. They would go out and do this all night long Navy divers go down and blow up these mines. It was an incredible story. Great job by our military. And that's one thing we can't say about Iran. Our military is incredible.

55:45I don't think anybody can come close to them. You know, what they have done in Iran has been incredible. What they did in Venezuela. Incredible operation. You know, we can take that. We just have to have a little more patience here with Iran. I think Donald Trump is going to take his time. He's going to get what he wants, which is Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. He's made that clear. And he's just going to wait them out. And Iran is trying to do the same thing. Meanwhile, inflation is up 200% in that country. The real is worth less. I mean, worthless really. So. Worthless and being worth less of the same. Yes. It's about $2 million to a dollar or $2 million to a dollar. Yeah, I'm a trillionaire there and in Zimbabwe and thank you so much for joining us tonight. And don't forget you were told 2000 years ago that you are the salt of the earth and salt without flavor has no value. So whatever you do, keep being salty. Have a great night. There is only one truth. You've been listening to the truth be told with Booker Scott on America out loud.

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