Common Seder Misconceptions

0:00For today's 10-minute halacha, we're going to discuss things that people get wrong at the satire that are misconceptions about the satire night. This is not an exhaustive list, but it's all the things that I could think of this morning as I was trying to put a list together. So we're not going to spend much time on each of them. I put together a list of 13 items that I think people make mistakes about at the satire. First item and this is not an order either. I've got to arrange it chronologically in terms of the satire. First item I have on the list is in terms of the ingredients for chorosis. So everyone knows that you're supposed to put a tapuach in the chorosis. What a lot of people don't realize is that tapuach in biblical and mishnail Hebrew does not mean apple. Tapuach actually means, probably means a citrus fruit. It means something like that. It may mean an apricot, an esrog, different suggestions. Apples did not grow in Earth's Israel in the times of the mishna, nor in the times of tenach. So it's very unlikely that tapuach means an apple. So really the ideal thing to use for chorosis, to put it in the chorosis is some type of citrus fruit, maybe an orange, lemon, something like that,

1:04but probably not an apple. I believe Sphardin do not put apples in the chorosis. I could be wrong about that. But I think there are those that have a minute to put apples in their chorosis. So that is number one. Second item on the list. We're just going to be going down a list. We'll see if it takes just 10 minutes. Second item on the list is a lot of people make a mistake about the shear cazaius, about how big a cazaius actually is. Now it's a little bit trite to say that I have a great chiddish that the cazaius is the size of an aliv, because it's really not that simple. There is a lot of discussion about how big an aliv is, and it makes lots of the pageantial choral whether it's a schlish beta or a chatsy beta, and it's not as straightforward as one might think. But what you do have a lot of people do sometimes is they have these gigantic sheurim of how much matter they need to eat for a cazaius, and they assume that they need to swallow it all within, they need to eat it all within two minutes, because that's a catechialis press. Whether or not you need to actually eat it within a given time of catechialis press, it certainly needs to be in with

2:04the catechialis press. How did the fine catechialis press is a major Machlux aboscum? Min chaschinoch holds that catechialis press is defined by each food. So if a press equals six and you need to eat one cazaius in the amount of time that it takes to eat a press of food, that a normal person would take to eat a press of that food, that means that if you hold a cazaius, let's say some gigantic shear, let's say you hold a cazaius is three quarters of a hand schmuramata, then you have the amount of time, let's work with numbers that I could do the math easier on, let's say you hold a cazaius is a half of a hand schmuramata, you have the amount of time that it would take a normal person to eat, eating normally three full hand schmuramata, so as long as you just eat normally, you have to be stuffing it in your face and just, you know, going at it and pounding away, and it as long as eat normally according to them in chaschinoch, granted this against the Mishaburu, but according to them in chaschinoch, that would be enough for cazaius, but catechialis press, Roshakhtar al-Tuswehlamaisa. In addition to that, it's not so pusher that all that there's such a giant shear for a cazaius, Roshakhtar when we asked him how big a cazaius is, he said roughly

3:08like this big, he made this size like three by three inches or so, it's a size of a cazaius, if you have that much matza, they say the stiple used to measure a cazaius by the palm of his hand, the size of the palm of his hand was what he considered to be a cazaius, Roshakhtar said that his father-in-law spent time by the saider of Roshimanskup, and Roshimanskup for a couple of years when he was writing the shariaosha, and Roshimans used to take a matza and divide up the matza to all the people at the saider, to have a cazaius from the one matza, five or six different cazaius from the one matza, and he wasn't a chasilish arabo, he was about lifehaces, the matza was growing, he was just giving the matza, there was that one fifth, one sixth of the matza equals a cazaius of matza, so it is Qidi, the truth is to be a little more machnier on how much a cazaius is for the first cazaius, Midau Rysa, on the first night, and but not necessarily for the other cazaius, and as the Mishbur says, which would be machnier for a khatsi-baitza on the first cazaius on the first night, and then afterwards a slish-baitza would be good enough, a third of a kabaitza would be good enough,

4:10again not going into all of the all of the details of shiorimu would be, it would take a lot longer to do that, another saider misconceptions that a lot of people think that if you do this, if you just lean into the air that that's called hesabah, hesabah was actually a luxurious type of sitting, they used to sit on these fancy couches at their at their table, and it's really more like a lying down kind of thing, but certainly at the very least you have to be leaning on something, it shouldn't be something that's very uncomfortable, that's awkward, it should be comfortable, it should be something that you certainly at the very least you need to be leaning on a cushion or something like that, and not just to lean in mid-air, so that is another another misconception. Number four on the list, a lot of times women believe that they do not have to eat a shior kezaius of matzah and mara, I think it's the fault of those of us who are supermachme in the shior of matzah that turns the women off from wanting to try to eat a kezaius of matzah, because they look at people stuffing their face and trying to swallow it in a very short amount of time, and they say,

5:10I don't know what I'm going to do, but it's not going to be that, and they'll just take a little nibble of something of matzah and mara without eating a full kezaius, women are also khaivti because I as a matzah mara, they're khaivti in all the mitzvahs, halayla, it's a beferish of gammara, that women are khaivti in the mitzvah of matzah, because kalshi ashram baltoch al-chamates to gammaram psaacham says, anyone who's khaivti in the isser to eat khaivti is also khaivti in, koma al-chal matzah has to go and eat matzah, and all the mitzvahs halayla women are included in, along those lines, women are also khaivti in the mitzvah of super-etias mitzah, the mitzvah super-etias mitzah is fulfilled by darshing the psaacham and aramiyaviravir, by being mastibudunus msaacham bhachevach, there are certain basic structural parts to the mitzvah super-etias mitzah, you do not necessarily need to know the story or need to say the story of the rabbis in binebrak and the harayani kevensha mshana to be yod say the mitzvah super-etias mitzah, but you do need a question answer, you do need the droshes of the psaacham of aramiyaviraviravir, that says in the missionah, you need a mastibudunus

6:13msaacham bhachevach, and most importantly you need Michael Sasabwar Rajvanmayllah, down already, the Magdalene, you're at Pasach Matsumar, so the women are ready in the kitchen preparing for the Shulkhunar, they're ready preparing for the Suhuda. That's not a good thing, because they are also Khayev, and they're also the Yatsi de Khavaso. If they don't say Pasach Matsumar, women are Khayev, not part of the Seder as well. Another Seder misconception is that very often you'll have two options for murder at the Seder. So the way people will say it is, do you want the real Mara, or do you want like the lettuce? So the, in fact, the real Mara is the lettuce, the Mishra Musaq al-Sabsaq al-Lissoh, five vegetables that a kushut used for Mara, lettuce is number one on the list. We are confident, we know what the number one thing is, that is lettuce, and that is, that's khasa. In fact, we just said in cheer last week, the Safrachina writes that it's the, it's a Hidur Mitzvah

7:17to use lettuce for Mara, because it's called khasa, and khasa reminds us that Khrushborkho has Rachmanas and Klaalissoh. It's in the shame of the vegetable, there's a Hidur, it's a very interesting Hidur, that you not only have Hidur in a Kheftoshaq al-Mitzvah, not only a Hidur in a Mishraq al-Mitzvah, you actually have a Hidur in a Kavanaugh in the Mitzvah, that it's a Hidur Mitzvah to use lettuce, that is the ideal thing to use for Mara. Now it should be noted, there are many posts in that hell that if lettuce doesn't taste bitter, that you shouldn't use it and you should use something that actually tastes bitter, there are other posts that add reservations about lettuce because of the bug, issues and problems, but Pasha Pasha, just Pasha reading of the Mishra lettuce is the real Mara, you then have to figure out if there's enough evidence to say that maybe you can be yoat say with horse radish as well, some suggest horse radish is also on the list of the Mishra, others say that horse radish is not one of the vegetables on the list of the Mishra, it's just the only thing we had, we didn't have any of the vegetables on the list of the Mishra, okay so you got to figure that out also, but real Mara is the lettuce, another misconception,

8:19there is no Mitzvah in the Torah, there is a Mitzvah in the Torah, a Vigatul Bilhah, you're supposed to the father is supposed to tell his children the story, there is no Mitzvah in the Torah for a child to sit there as a zogging kumatrias all night to his father so that the father will know what he's paying his tuition for, the children are supposed to ask questions, they should be encouraged to ask questions, it should be encouraged to think, to use their brains to ask questions, you should do unusual things, to make them ask questions, and the answer shouldn't always be so that you can ask, the answer should involve something about the actual story of Yit S. Mitzvah in, so when you do something unusual to make one of your nephews or something ask a question, make sure that you're ready with an answer that somehow will relate to Yit S. Mitzvah in, now the another misconception is that people believe that since we know that you're supposed to, if you stay up all night being Marble of Sapa of Yit S. Mitzvah and I raise a Mishubach to learn all night shira shirin and then be misabi of Yit S. Mitzvah and so people think that means that you should extend maggots so long

9:22that you don't even get to the Afikom until three in the morning and then the last of the dollar costals till three thirty in the morning and then you'll be able to show off in Shulva next day, look at these bags under my eye, we're so firm, we're all up all night and then that is not the halakh, the halakh is that the Afikom in must be finished by Khatsos, the Ramaholds, Dallad Khosos need to be finished by Khatsos, not only that the Afikom in needs to be finished by Khatsos, so yes, we discussed that tonight the Avni-Nazer, okay, some like it, some don't like it, the Avni-Nazer liked it, everyone else didn't like it, okay, so there's there maybe other possibilities of what to do, but the Afikom in it, the very least has to be finished by Khatsos, the Ramaholds, even Dallad Khosos, the grass says not just Afikom in is good enough, halakh, if everyone finished the Afikom in Bakhatsos, that would be good enough, after the Seder, if you want to stay up and be marvellous, supper, be serious, my son, my Tov and my Naim, that's wonderful, I bet you were off gig, he was in northward, we were in a couple of weeks ago, the Rashiv and Haratione, he said, he said with Miguel FS, I was raised to say Shira, Shira, Moll Knight, the Knight of the Seder, from the age of zero, that's what he did, zero is pretty young, that's that's impressive, now the, another another

10:28misconception that people have is that people like Haro says, that's not a misconception, that's okay to like Haro says, but there's no Mitzvahs Akkila of Haro says, you know, the Mitzvah of eating the Kazai's of Haro says, in fact, it sounds from Shulkhunar, it sounds like Mahogs, we shot him rather, whether there's a Mitzvah of eating Haro says, but we're asking that the mora is supposed to be dipped into the Haro says, shaken off, and then eaten as Murray, not supposed to pile on Haro says on the Murray, just because Haro says he's way more delicious, then mora is, if you want to eat Haro says later on during the Seder, because today, yeah, I've all said along, if you're Haro says during the entire Shulkhunar, if you really like it that much and you're not just eating it because it's the best of the bad options at that stage in the day when you're, when you're starving, this may also relate to this issue of whether there's a Mitzvah of Haro says, may relate to an issue of whether you allow to eat Haro says on Arab Pesah, Arab Pesah is really so, there's nothing to eat, so Kenil Haro says on Arab Pesah, see if y'all there's a Mitzvah of Haro says, on the United States it probably shouldn't be an Arab Pesah, just like you shouldn't probably,

11:31there's an Israeli Matsah and you shouldn't drink wine on Arab Pesah, because anything you have a Mitzvah of Haro said that night is supposed to avoid eating earlier that day, but if there's no Mitzvah of Haro said something you dip in to take away the sharpness of the mora or whatever it is, the, the some element of the mora, so then, um, then the Khore you'd be allowed to eat it, another thing that people make a mistake about is that if I always do this in my high school share, I always say what does the word Khoreikh mean, and everyone always says Khoreikh means sandwich, Khoreikh does not mean sandwich anywhere in Shaz, Khoreikh always means to wrap, it means that you wrap something, why do we think Khoreikh means sandwich, because our Matsahs are crackers, they're not soft, and therefore we can't wrap anything them, so some we showed him say that no, Khoreikh doesn't mean you're supposed to wrap the Matsah around the mora, it means you're supposed to wrap the mora around the Matsah, you try wrapping a piece of horseradish around something, obviously the mora they're assuming is lettuce, that you could wrap it around the Matsah,

12:33now we passed in that we wrap the Matsah around the, uh, the, the mora, and probably what Khoreikh meant was that it was a soft Matsah like the Svardamit, that's again this is not a halachic issue, there's nothing wrong with making a Khoreikh sandwich with our Matsahs, just uh, we shouldn't uh lose, lose sight of what the translation of the word is, at least your picture of the Khoreikh and Pesach, when they, they had Pesach Matsah mora all together, he was Khoreikh and Biyachar, what did it mean, it meant, so they, they had a Shwarma, that they would take a lafa, which is what the Svardamatsas look like, and put some, some lamb in it, that's the Khoreikh and the lettuce for the, for the mara, okay, no Khomus, but other than that, it was a, it was a, it was a probably very delicious Shwarma, I don't know if they had those greasy paper bags underneath it, but uh, okay, but you know, you had a, you had a Shwarma, the, uh, another, two more, and then we'll, we'll stop, another, uh, unless you have more suggestions, another, uh, misconception, a lot of people don't realize that when we get to Halil and the United States, they're, how, there is a surah to, how to say Halil, Halil's is, it was instituted to be said, like a Dovership of Kdusha, certain parts of

13:36Halil, Baniya, Bamiya, the Mishnais, talk about this in Sathasuka, that when you get to the Hodula Shem Kitov, it's supposed to be said responsively, that there's a leader and then everyone responds, just like you say Halil and Shul, Anashemoshiyana, the same thing, a lot of times, and again, I haven't been to that many different families, Siddharam, I've only been to my own family, Siddharam, so I'm assuming that, you know, based, based on that video, the stuff people say at the center, I'm assuming everyone's family is exactly like mine, but a lot of times by the time you get to Halil, the, uh, people are just like running through it, they're just like saying the Halil or singing it or whatever, and everyone sings it together, but when you get, and that's fine, that's wonderful for everyone to sing it together, the Gammara describes that, uh, that when they would say Halil, the roof would cave in, they were saying Halil on the rooftops, in Jerusalem, it was an amazing experience, but when you get to those parts, it should be said, Bamiya Vaniya, it should be said with, uh, with an answering with a responsive element, to it, that's Bifair Sharamah, Ramans, Mata-Vaidaz, says that Halil is supposed to be said that way, and the final misconception is that, uh, Aliyah and Avi comes to drink the wine at the satyr. Aliyah and Avi, um, may or may not come

14:41to the satyr, that's also not so posh, the first mention of Aliyah and Avi, uh, having anything, first mention of a coast shell Aliyah, good Jewish trivia, first mention of coastal Aliyah, tonight I'm a Royam, go on a more reshowning answer, none of the above, Akronin, the late 17th century is the first time that we have any mention of a coast shell Aliyah. Now we do have mention of a fifth coast, there is a concept of a fifth coast, that's already in the riff, the riff thinks that's in Tanayin, the riff says that's Robbie Tarpenscheet, that you're supposed to have a fifth coast, but that means that there should be a fifth coast for everybody, and posh was to drink the fifth coast, the Ramam has a little different, not to drink the fifth coast to support it, but nothing about Aliyah and Avi, Aliyah and Avi came in much later in the story. There's reasons why you would think Aliyah and Avi would have something to do with this, we're celebrating past Ghul and hoping that this is a, you know, this will lead to a future Ghulah and before Mashiach comes, Aliyah and Avi comes today, early in the Gmarnair, even Dafin Amgimul, about Khumla Malame Asara, talks about how Aliyah and Avi could possibly come, you know, and Shabis, he's coming from outside the Tchum, right, so Aliyah, so the Gmarna makes very clear,

15:45based on the Psookim, that Aliyah and Avi comes a day before Mashiach, and he's gonna, you know, he's gonna herald the coming of Mashiach, so it certainly makes sense to have Aliyah and Avi involved in some way at the Seder, but no need to, it's always fun to trick the kids, but there's no need to trick the kids and make them feel like that's a critical part of the Seder, in fact, they're opening the door for Shvo Khamasca, very likely has nothing to do with Aliyah and Avi, it has to do with something, there's something to that Minhaq, that Minhaq is centuries old, but very that Minhaq is recorded in the Ramamah there, so that's a good Minha, it's an important Minhaq, but very likely has nothing to do with Aliyah and Avi, again, I'm hoping for more suggestions of interesting things that people get wrong at the Seder, that's today's Tamanala Khashir. Oh, I barely got any sleep last night, what? Why? I spent hours fighting with AI, all because I was trying to make a website, it started out okay, but then I got stuck just trying to change one button, okay, okay, relax, just try Wix Harmony, what's that? It's Wix's new website builder,

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