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All right master with the suggestion go ahead next year when we run it back I think the

all American shows should be Wednesday what do you mean like today yes because on Monday

because you feel like we don't have much to talk about today I feel like Monday we did because

it was the end of the record season okay okay and now what has happened between Monday night

and Wednesday morning well Syracuse just fired their coach breaking news that's

interesting do we have a Syracuse they fired their coach mere hours after Jerry McNamara punched

just take it with Sienna to the NCA tournament is that a coincidence do we think there's something

there Cody Syracuse guy this five years in a row no tournament birth I mean bringing a guy

who knows what the fuck's going on good solution Cody Jerry McNamara see the guy we think yeah but if

he has success this tournament I don't know he might stay he's only he's only coach for two years

right that's the end of but he did make the tournament with that be pretty matured you think like you

get you you these schools fall into the trap of like getting excited about bringing back a legend

like like Jerry McNamara I've heard a lot of Syracuse fans want to go outside the family yeah it's

the time to go outside the family because they've been in the family for a minute yeah it might be

time to explore other options can you be a can you be a coach for two years and then get the Syracuse

if you're not Jerry McNamara you can yeah I don't yeah if if Jerry McNamara wasn't Jerry McNamara they

wouldn't be interested in him at all but he is Jerry McNamara and that's the thing Tate that's

the one thing you got to keep in mind he is Jerry McNamara and I question you with this what is your

thoughts on a big name program a power five program hiring based on maybe name although the

coach doesn't have that much experience would you would like should they do that no

I was trying to make a reference to what one Ohio State just hired Jake D. Blair with little coaching

experience oh that's your name I mean his brother I mean a lot a lot of a lot of people do we should

hire Jerry McNamara I was gonna say Jake didn't play for us at least um he does have two more

years of had coaching experience in Audrey did when they hired him so he's got that going for him yeah

yeah um Syracuse job open up I think that's kind of the story right now uh right this second as we

wait for the the heavy hitters to start playing in conference tournaments is that uh coaches are

being fired but they're not being fired that that Bobby Hurley gets fired from Arizona state and then

Bobby Hurley could still win the national championship yeah can you explain that one to me same

with capel at pit there's just coaching through the tournament I don't really know if I would do

that if I was the coach but I guess like maybe they're just like we want we want to see this thing

through with the boys what's the benefit of like breaking news Arizona say it's probably not

gonna win the big 12 tournament yeah so at most you needed to wait 24 more hours maybe 48

yeah I don't know why not just wait for the season to be over right I mean I guess like the the

thing might be that they they talked with him and told him that this is how it's gonna go

after the season maybe that and then like it got leaked that he's been fired when he actually

hasn't he technically hasn't been fired but that's that's what makes it funny is like what if

Arizona state and it's going to run it's a stupid what if but also now I'm what if what if

Arizona air is on a stake of winning the national championship still and then what do you do with

Bobby Hurley so they play what's they play the first they're at 11 30 yeah I stayed at 11 30

I'm rooting for them to win the big 12 Jeff Capel's in the same spot by the way at pit beat

Stanford yesterday they even styled him I got fired is he coaching I don't think they're even in

the tournament are they oh they didn't make the ACC tournament I don't think so um and then

St. Bonnie's fired their guy Mark Schmidt which is a story that's uh circulating right now in college

basketball if you guys are up on what's going on there what is all right is anybody up on what's

going on there do I have to be the one to talk about that I was really I was really hoping someone

else would introduce this topic but here we are now I have to I've seen woes has been taking a lot of

heat that's what I was just taking a lot of heat there's a lot of uh there's a lot of chatter a

lot of rumor circulating that woes has has uh basically stabbed the coach in the back and he's

taken over the job he said in his press conference he's like it's it's the coaches job I'm just here

to help out anyway I can and then from that moment on has been scheming to get the coach out of

there and get his guy in which might be him it might be woes woes might be impartial on that

usually yeah which is why I wanted someone else to to bring this topic up dammit but okay all right

here's the topic take I thought we talked about this like when woes is in the news I can't

want to bring him up you have to bring it up you have to you have to throw it to me as though like

I didn't really want to talk about this but since you asked me I have to you understand let's run

it back like take I take I want you to be like Titus I know you know I know I know you want to talk

ball but like you got to talk about this woes thing and I'd be like do we have to take all right

and then that's when I give off the take it gets clipped it gets put out of context Ebo put gives me

a bad edit or on Twitter I get the people fired up and then and then you know we come in on Friday

and you guys are like you Titus you did it again that's how this is supposed to go I'll admit I

didn't do it correctly can I get a second where can we try and clip we just can we can we just

pretend none of that happened yeah run it back and then clip this starting right now clip is

starting live viewers you're the only ones who know that don't tell anyone that this isn't don't

pull a day to be take take two take two you pull it back up who's who's knocking it's going on

hello that's crazy

green Gregory get in here Rick you got to get up sorry I see a great

Rick you have to get up we have to talk to the fucking legend what's wrong Rick

I told you made it out of my word make him share a chair

actually Greg doesn't share chairs holy shit you are so green Rick you want to say your peace

oh yeah you didn't want to choose sides and then definitively chose a side my tweet said it

perfectly okay your consequences your consequences had actions you got that way no

it's perfectly it's perfectly now interactions in return have now had return consequences so

oh this is good this is oh my god this this rivalry this is he expected this is hot

barstals newest what rivalry this was like my one friend I had on twitter so Rick you you asked him

what tell me the story how I have I mean I could expect to read yeah just read what he read

what he texted you I mean I want to understand what exactly happened here

Rick said I'm knocking heavy on wood as I type this but if Indiana win what is that are you

Jack oh no I didn't want to jinx anything is that me jacking off it's right he's not a heavy on wood

you might have heavy knocking on wood you knock on wood yeah but I can have you know what heavy you're

knocking heavy though yeah because I wasn't confident at all about Indiana okay his exact word

didn't want it to backfire as it exactly what it happened backfire his exact words were can you

help me troll Titus and Tate for the show on Monday if Indiana wins if Indiana wins just a classic

green Greg video would be awesome the belt the gritty in the beer choke uh-huh and then they

and then they and then I said I said we will see I don't know if I can do that right before

coming to the office I need all the bubble brothers now yeah are you lost one yeah I know yeah

well you're not on the bubble anymore so we are firmly back on the bubble how well Joe

Santa Claus is an absolute piece of shit what are we learning already fans no no one is even playing

how is he flip flop in teams and I wrong Rick you know exactly what I'm talking about that

coxer keeps me like like he'll put you out and then they'll be like come on put us in he'll put

him back in I love this time of year because like Lunardi I think they're clips of me probably

saying the same thing like fuck Joe Lunardi all the Lunardi like guys like Lunardi and like Mike

DeCorsi and all these like bracketologist dudes are just the most meek like nicest guys that

you're just kind of like dirty that are just they just get in their little excel spreadsheets

and they're just like the way I see it is I think that there was like shut the fuck up bitch I'll

fight you Joe you fucking piece of shit the worst part is he literally he has three months out of

the year that he works hard and like when Mizzou's on the bubble he doesn't update it for like eight

hours he just goes about at nine p.m. I'm like I need to know where they're at and then SEC just

like this is what we think Joe Lunardi's gonna do people hate his guts it's so funny oh Santa Clara in

now or no what do we think last night they had a chance to get the automatic bid they they played

Gonzaga pretty well Gonzaga pulled away late but I think they should still be in are they in I think

they're is that take a spot do we think I think they were already what who does Indiana play today

north western with western wait Indiana plays today yeah oh my god I mean I actually knew

that to be honest sorry I was on my chart right there so good luck though you if you beat north

western you have Purdue yes okay I think two wins two wins and already firmly in one pretty

firmly in with two wins firmly might have been it too far two wins to get back in the conversation I

think I was talking I thought it was one win to be back in the conversation I was talking to Kyle

and right son of all milfiken to see that's a topic we can talk about well I'll tell you this I

do have an update on that but Kyle says two and they're in win two and you're and he that's

coming from a brother now let me ask you this how many teams can point to beating Purdue as proof

that they should be in because I I want to be careful with how I talk about this date because

that's our big win that's how state's big win and I don't want to devalue it but also if every

team beats Purdue down the stretch can it be like a game you point to and say we belong in we just

beat Purdue well UCLA is using that we beat them before they started sucking yeah to be clear well

you you beat them on the stretch that they lost three games in a row for the only time all season

yeah also fair but I'm Rick I'm sorry to be tripping you so much today but I will say there's

three teams he tried to weaponize Greg against us dude don't be sorry yeah like he declared war on

us he said I'm going to go fucking I'm gonna build an atomic bomb which is green Greg and I'm

gonna detonate it on Ohio State that's what he had planned that's good and we intercepted it

it's a good ball don't don't apologize I retraced because you realize what would have happened if

we lost like yeah actually that is to realize what would happen like Rick would have he he had Greg

lined up Rick built the bomb I do appreciate the pre troll I think you got to be prepared that's

our boy Greg though um put him in a tough spot I go full AJ Hawk mode when you guys talk

Indiana and Ohio State I just sit here and and soak it in see I'm serious though like

Purdue using Purdue as like proof that we belong in the tournament is that not I think there's

become a little crazy I think there's literally three teams right now that are like well we like UCLA

Indiana and Ohio State are all saying well we beat we beat Purdue so now we're in yeah and they're

all beat him at home and yeah Purdue win even good though that's that's what I'm saying it was

constant beat Purdue and Machu which like this Wisconsin team is not on the bubble and they're

they're flame throwers and I I love watching them play um the ticket lady Jennifer of coups well

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but even Wisconsin they beat Purdue for the fifth time that that Purdue has lost in Mac

Urina this year and I felt like Wisconsin fans were like oh this team might be special yeah but

I think that's an overvalued win yeah what does uh Ken Palm do you know what home court

advantage that tracks I have no idea um I don't know I would imagine like I've I uh it might be this

but I thought I've long thought that there should be some sort of metric for teams that do play really

well at home like that that have your um like I I was state comes to mind when when I was state is

playing a big game at Houghton Coliseum they win and then sometimes on the road they don't look

as good and you're like how could that be years I was stating consistent maybe just that like

that crowd is bonkers Kansas is that way sometime I think Indiana's that way Rick I think I you

at assembly hall when you have a top 10 team they're way better than

like playing just like a bad team on the road it's his uh because of the the atmosphere I don't

know if that's what it is it's just it's just who who's like got the best home court advantage my point

is is uh I clicked on produce page and they are 103rd in home court advantage oh and it says that

using past home scoring predicts future home scoring and other stats yeah their home court

advantage at Mac is it Wallstrick I put them on washed allegations they lost like four or five games

best home court advantages West Virginia really Texas tech okay I can see that one you tall

so I think it's just the discrepancy between like how well you play at home and on the road yeah

it's got to be but then Texas tech beat Arizona and Tucson so I don't get why they would be so high

I don't know I'll be honest with you full disclosure I don't know what 99% of the shit on kimp on me

it's all it's all I just look at it and there's stuff yeah if it if it backs up my argument I

point to it just look at the just look at the map I just regards so bubble watch uh we all think

Santa Clara's in you think Santa Clara's done enough to be in I think yeah let's talk

mazoo because I haven't watched a single game this year due to our rule yeah the rule that we implanted

is that the word sure implemented implemented yeah implemented on this same thing on the show that

we don't watch mazoo because we only watch reaction videos of Marshall but I I haven't really

watched mazoo but I feel like I have you know what I mean right I I get everything I need to know

from Greg when you give us like when he's just like mark Mitchell dog give us a load that's all I

needed I mean we were the butter the joke team in December lost Illinois by 45 loss of Kansas by

20 lost in Notre Dame like shit was hitting the fan hard and then in January we opened up SEC

play with a win against Florida which is one of the best wins in the country at that time and now

John John motherfucker yeah John John motherfucker and then we went to Kentucky who will probably play

tomorrow beat them very scared about that uh but no I mean Jane Stone he can shoot the three ball

Mark Mitchell he can control down low you can sometimes shoot those are the two guys I really

like out for Teo Barrett he got the he got put in the starting lineup mid January and we've

actually been a way better team since so yeah we need to win tomorrow we're kind in the same spot

as Indiana like yeah I feel like we're one spot less or one game less like win and I feel like

we're comfortably in but we lose we are like in Indiana has to win you have to beat Northwestern to

have the chance to play back on to the right side you think you win one game you're back on the

right side I think we're on the right side right now but we were firmly in two weeks ago yeah we've

haven't won in two weeks so just give one in two weeks no they are they're treading water like

they're falling out of this tournament we lost Oklahoma and then we lost the Arkansas without

a cup so my guy Mike Rutherford loves to point out it's it's one of his running gags and it always

cracks me up when he points out that people say it's it's a historically weak bubble because this

has been said about every bubble forever for every every single time at this year people look at

the bubble teams and they're like folks these bubble teams not that good but I mean that's the bubble

that's the bubble that's the bubble every year that's how the bubble works but I do think that

there are some uh yeah there's my brother yet historically weak bubble um but then there are

people that are like I don't know the the college basketball nerds and boy are there a lot of them

are are saying that there are metrics pointing to like this bubble is ass but it's like comparing the

bubble to I saw Evan Miyakawa was talking about this he's comparing the bubble teams to the top

teams and that the discrepancy between like the teams at the top in college basketball this year

and the teams on the bubble is wider than it's ever been according to his metrics um but I don't

know how much that matters because I think the teams at the top are like distancing themselves from

everybody else as well I think you could argue that like based on that then like the five seeds are

as weak as they've ever been yeah I feel like that's just I do get stronger as we go like in the years

like I mean we saw last year was all chalk in the final four like yeah probably this year like I'm

not gonna say it's gonna be chalk but there's like 18 yeah I mean I'm gonna say it's okay let's go

chalk but yeah I mean we've also I heard you talk about it how you think you would like oh how

say to be the 11 seed because this is one of the weaker six seed like lines yeah I mean that's

what's gonna happen within aisle like the rich get richer in the poor get poor yeah I do wonder

I was I was thinking last night on it um this conference real like because we do spend a lot of

time talking about the NIL factor of like uh money's getting funneled to certain programs and some

some programs want to spend on football not basketball as much and the teams that are uh spending

maybe they're the ones that are finding success which isn't exactly true because there are

teams that are spending that aren't having great seasons but um it's conference realignment

factor into this does conference realignment by like having the bloated conferences and allowing

like I think in the and if if the pack 12 still existed UCLA would have UCLA and Arizona would

have ripped through that conference now Arizona did rip through the big 12 but UCLA would have been

the second best team in the pack 12 yeah UCLA you might be arguing as like a four seed or something

versus what they actually are you start like creating so I think like what happens is there's more

like questions about like who the actual best teams are and then the tournament rolls around and

upsets happen whereas like now especially we saw so many great non-conference games I think by

the time the tournament rolls around we have a pretty good idea of all these teams all these teams

have played each other the cream has risen to the top and I think in the old days not everybody

played each other which was like maybe bad for the regular season but it was good for not really

knowing what to expect in March because you had teams like out west that are you know have

have contention for a one seed but like I don't know what's going to happen when the pack 12 champion

plays the biggest champion you know it was my now I feel like we know that shit already it was

my favorite thing about college sports I think I've set it on here before but you didn't you didn't

know who the best conference was because they simply didn't play each other you you were regional

you would argue all Michigan's really good your house is really good sure no UCLA's really good

this year even in college football we open with Texas or we play Texas next year then Ohio State

plays Georgia they play Alabama that is supposed to be what the BCS national championship was I have

no fucking clue if Alabama's the best team in the country now we find out in week two yeah I think

comments really real I'm at stinks Washington probably makes the tournament if the pack 12 still exists

I probably like the three the third best team yeah that's in the pack 12 you know um

so I wonder how much of it is is that and then because it's not only like what happens when the

tournament rolls around what remains to be seen will it actually be four one seed to get like it was

last year um we don't know yet but I will say that like the the the one seeds are being like

crystallized in a way that isn't like we had a debate between Yukon and Florida and maybe Yukon

wins the biggest tournament maybe Florida loses early in the SEC and it becomes a conversation again

but uh in sports winning takes more than talent it takes strength reliability and the drive to go

to the distance sound familiar that's the same DNA you'll find in the Chevy Silverado as capable

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proved to learn more about Silverado visit Chevy dot com I remember times where like that feels like

it's commonplace now where it's like these are the four one seeds lock it in and I remember

times was like there are six or seven teams where you're just like we got to figure out which of

this group is the is the one seeds and I think the way the regular season pans out now with the

massive conferences with teams like stepping up to play big non conference schedules like of the

four one seeds that we have uh Arizona and Florida open the season play in each other Duke and

Michigan played a couple weeks ago um yeah I think the big boys are taking Connecticut and Florida

play Yukon Florida played uh Arizona and Yukon played so you get like do you the it's let yeah it's

like it's becoming just like kind of more proven on the court to where I think the mystery of these

teams is taken away and maybe that's factored into why we're we're trending towards fewer

Cinderella's or fewer surprises this is so if you were the commissioner of college basketball or if

you could set the rules of of college athletics do you like what you're saying or you dislike

what you're saying I don't know because it did make the regular season awesome yeah it did but

it but it also made me feel as I sit here today and I'm anticipating an NCAA tournament I do

feel like it's going to be chalky again and I feel like uh recillo pointed this out I did

recillus show by the way I think it's coming out today check that out recillo uh he's an up

and comeer we're we're the kids um we just hired him we plucked him from obscurity him and

drink right yeah yeah yeah splash hires here at bar still um but we're still a pointed out on

his show to me which I didn't know that it's going back to Kim Palm stuff that every team that's

got like a 35 plus 35 rating on Kim Palm has made the final four in the history of Kim Palm going

back to like 1997 when Kim Palm started anybody that's like plus 35 which that that I do know what

that metric means that metric is like a measure of how much better you are than the average team in

college basketball so it's not saying like because I think people get get excited about like this

Duke team I think this Duke team this year is like the second best they're over 40 yeah they're the

second best Kim Palm rating ever 99 Duke was the first that doesn't mean he's not saying that

they're the second best team of all time what he's saying is that the measure between Duke and

and just like your average team in division one is the gap between that is it was the second

widest ever if that makes sense um but we're still a pointed out to me I didn't I didn't know this

if every single team literally every single one that has a plus 35 rating on Kim Palm has made

the final four and last year we had four of them all four of them made the final four this year

we have four four right now they're all going to be the one seeds and uh that's why I keep saying

this is training towards chalk what's you going at I'm assuming they're not even close okay yeah

it's a pretty decent drop off from Duke Michigan Arizona Florida to Illinois yeah so it goes from

35 to 32 and upsets can happen you know yeah like it does I don't I don't think we're off in our

perception of this idea that like the cream has risen to the top and um all of that so I don't

know I don't know what's better you know it is it is like a debate every time you know Dana you

mentioned the other day that you won't you love you love Cinderella's you think a like a 10 seed

versus a seven in the national championship is awesome but then for a lot of people they're like I

want the Cinderella to win the first few rounds that's what makes it sport great but then you

know you get like the 2023 final four we show up at Houston and like the entire world is just like

I mean can we just give you come the trophy now we can all go back home like what are we doing here uh

so I hate I don't like that and last year's final four was was incredible so it was I do I do

love the heavy hitters making it but I also you need the Cinderella's because that's what makes

this event so special I bet you I'm into minority on this one but this is how I feel do you guys

think when you talk about these big non-conference games especially late near it's one thing to open

up with uh you know you're in a multi-team event Duke just played Michigan uh-huh and Michigan I'm

sorry Duke won the game if they play again in the final four I think that kind of sucks like if it

goes the other way you know what I mean yeah like if Michigan wins then it's not that I get it

it's a tournament it's a different situation it still matters it all that I just think that it

stinks that we just saw a game that we could be salivating at the mouth for yeah as the bracket comes

out on Sunday being like guys what will happen if y'all goes against booster right and then what

happens if not only do they play but it goes the other way right that kind of stinks yeah you'd

rather see Duke win twice and see it split I'd rather I'd you'd rather they not if I'd rather yeah

okay I was gonna I wanted to go back to your conference realignment point how you were talking

about you love March Madness watching Cinderella runs the upsets all that would you rather have

basketball how it is now like January through March conference basketball games are amazing they're

awesome or just have four like a good three week span of college basketball for March Madness

because that's really what it is now yeah like and honestly like I love March Madness probably just

as much as you do but like we got three straight hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on Greg

whatever point you're about to make change it Greg how much do you love March Madness how much

do you love March Madness go I fucking love March Madness like okay and then I still like

literally I I got off school like I would get off like last year when I was at my old job I took

off like Thursday Friday on around one took off Friday for sweet 16 you took off work for March Madness

yeah take I know when I know when I've no it took off school oh no no I had a job last year okay yeah

yeah you know I know when I've been but take I've I've literally never taken off work for

March Madness wow in all the years I actually work more yeah during March yeah you're like hey

I'm excited to work during March Madness now because I I work or during March Madness and he

takes off work well I don't want he loves it that he loves it I don't want you to play to yourself he said

I might take loves it Titus am I being challenged I might take off work I don't think nothing I'm

gonna take off work this March Madness imagine Titus just I'm just not gonna do the show I love

March Madness so much I'm just not gonna cover March Madness um in sports winning takes more than

talent it takes strength reliability and the drive to go to the distance sound familiar that's

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what when you think of college basketball I mean yeah it's like the casuals and what makes the

sport matter for a lot of people from most of this country college basketball matters from now

into for these next four years yeah I think for the most people it's the one month but for like yes

if you like called basketball or love it like it's the entire season yes that's right

literally every other week like what Saturday it was or two weeks in a row it was Arizona

Texas Tech and then it was Arizona Houston or something like that it's just yeah we wouldn't get

that because one Houston being the American Arizona being the Pac-12 and Texas Tech's in the

big one right but now we get all them into you get them all so I don't know I like we're red I do

like this I don't I don't mind this I do think the anticipation I like I'm sort of agreeing with

you take that I I wish there was more mystery around which of these four teams was the best we

didn't have data points to point two it was just kind of like these are the four obviously these

are obviously the four best teams but who is the best do we really know let's do this instead it

sort of feels like we might know outside of those four who do you think has the best shot to make

a run Illinois Houston Iowa State Purdue Michigan State Connecticut or you con let's do one of

those I like that I like that I'm thinking on my answer beers um why don't Houston I said this

preseason yeah I'm such a baby with Houston this is how I live my life two beers is like if something

is bugging me or something like I can't get over Houston is probably the answer but I just can't

get over that they're not as good as the previous I know well they're that's not just that they're

not as good they're deep it is like this style of play I loved how they played so much yeah that I

hate that it's not that they've tweaked the recipe a little bit and and we're all it's like you're

going to the the fast food chain where they had the I don't want to use names because I don't know

who sponsors us and doesn't stuff the company but it's the it's like it's someone that like

tweaked the recipe of the the sandwich you love right now you now you you went there for years

and you loved it now it tastes a little different you swear you're not crazy you're like this they

obviously changed something yep the secret sauce has been changed a little bit that's Houston for

me is like it's it's I'm ordering the same thing off the menu you're presenting at the same it's

coming in the same package but don't lie to me this tastes different we all know it tastes a little

different um they are your odds if you were doing this by odds beers they are your fifth most likely

yeah I think they're the answer I mean if you have to pick one outside of the top four it is

Houston but I just don't I yeah because the thing is it's like you say go on a run and and

sometimes people get excited about the idea of a final four a final four should be celebrated

absolutely that is that is an insane accomplishment and is for 99.9% of programs that is a

absolutely successful year um but you're only two thirds of the way done once you make the final

four yep so like teams can make the final four and you can feel really good about yourself and then

once you get to the final four to win a national championship you still have to beat two final four

teams uh back to back you know so I think like there are a lot of teams that I think can make a final

four there are a lot of teams that could that could upset one of the one seeds going to run

it's more as I'm forecasting this once you're there now you have to beat two more you know like

can can can someone upset can a four seed beat Florida right in the sweet 16 yes I believe that

that could happen when that four seed gets to the final four now they have to beat Michigan and then

Duke to win the national championship I I don't I don't really see that happening you know no I

agree with you completely the path once you get there is substantially hard like in Nebraska like

people are saying can a brass can make the final four I guess could they come out of a region

they're going to be favored in their first game going to be even singing can they upset someone

in the third game yeah they can yeah but then can they win can they can they back to back yeah but

you think you feel like once you get to the final four I mean that's the tagline is like the

the end of the road or whatever the road ends here and it's like they oh my god we did it yet and

you kind of did I mean it is something like you make a final four most programs will welcome that

team back and say like ladies and gentlemen your final four team and it's it's a huge deal I don't

mean to say it's not it's just if you're trying to figure out who's going to win national championships

making the final four doesn't necessarily mean that you're good enough to win a national championship

I always love like these teams that have the one guy that could potentially be the guy to lead them

to that final four and maybe you know beat one of the Florida's or the Michigan I think

Illinois has one in wagler I think Arkansas Arkansas has one with a cuff

and but the other team with flammings with flammings and then but like does I with state have

that guy they have shooters they have Jefferson but I don't know I think if you were to pick a team

out of that group I would say Illinois Houston or Arkansas just because they have like the one

dude that can go absolute bananas at any point um but yeah I think it's really just those at this

point it would be a shocker if one of those four teams didn't I agree with you yeah uh I have

I have a existential maybe that's the wrong word I have a a broad college basketball topic

because we're talking about this stuff like what's what's the right format what's the right

mhm recipe for a great college basketball season um have you guys been privy to the discourse

on these smaller schools conference tournaments and how they're conducting their affairs did we

start this discussion I might have it's like it's ramping up because I think people are it's kind

of piggybacking on what we're just talking about like we're sensing that there might not be scintorella

and people are panicking a little bit because uh one seeds are going down in their conference

tournaments. Um, which is exciting for within the context of the conference tournament.

It's not as exciting when you're trying to figure out which of these teams can compete

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registered investment advisor. What's the ideal conference? If you're, if you're the commissioner

of a smaller conference, Tate, what is your ideal conference tournament structure? I'll tell you

exactly what it is. And I'll also say this, I'm pretty sure we pulled up like the crazy one like

in Sunbelt and like November. Yeah. And we're like, that's exactly what you should do. If,

if you play all year and you win your conference, that should be the team that goes to the tournament.

Instead of a random three day, three game, what cause you want your conference to be well

represented. Titus, I'll answer your question. It should be 12 plays 11 like three weeks ago.

And then the winter plays 10 and then the latter. It's like the video game where you like

worked up to the final boss. You should, if you want to be the 12 seed and make the tournament,

you should have to win 12 games. That's incredible. What a, what a system. Miami of Ohio is getting

fucked. They are 31 and 0 and they will have to do the same thing that Akron Kent State, Ohio,

Toledo, it doesn't matter. They have you mass, right? You mass. You mass is the same spot as

Miami of Ohio. Three games three days. There's no buys. No buys. There are, there are, you have to

qualify only 18 only eight teams made the tournament. But of those eight, they're no buys. They play

tomorrow. And I'm telling you, I know I'm two into the Mac Frank Martin coaches this UMass team.

They play at 10 a.m. tomorrow. Miami does. That game is not a given by noon tomorrow. It could be

like, well, Miami lost in the first round. But they're playing it. They're playing in Cleveland,

right? They're playing. So it'd be 11, but still like very early game. Yes, very early game.

What would you do? I don't know. It's the newest hot topic. Yeah, I know. I like the idea of

giving the one seed an advantage. But like Navy's a team that people keep going back to. Rick,

you put, you put us on to Navy. I kind of wish we didn't do the mid major report thing because

now my heart is getting broken. I fall in love with these teams. I don't even know they existed

really. And then you tell me all about them. And then now I'm watching them have their dreams.

We did have a few hits there. We had a few calls. Hofstra. Yeah, take a lot of people were

surprised about Hofstra, including people in this room that we brought up Hofstra. Hofstra

going in the big dance. And Cody, could you possibly play that clip for us?

I do have to call some people out here. Oh, no. Is it right? Rick's on his trolls.

Wrong clip. Cody, the one I DMed you. Okay. All right. Okay. Get his ass, Cody. All right.

Here comes the clip. Rick is now crossing his arms at the CAA. There's a me a cool pool.

Four games up here. Conference on Hofstra. They run the conference.

Why are we talking about Hofstra? Because I think Hofstra is a team that can make a run in

the conference. Wow. And they won. Here's the first team in every conference.

I'm winning. Okay. That's fair. But I mean, let's be honest, Hofstra is probably a relevant.

That's awesome. Okay, Rick. That's awesome. Rick, I'll allow you to detonate your bomb if you want.

Well, I was well, I detonate the bomb. I was called out by both Titus and Tate for bringing up all of you.

I'm saying you want you want Greg? I broke. Do you want to authorize Greg to dance on my grave?

No, I'll save that bomb. Okay. I'll be the bigger man here. Rick, I want to congratulate you. That is

that is an awesome. That's a good call. Good call. Hofstra is going dancing. And I will say,

if I was doing what Rick was doing like next year, no one cares if you take the number one team.

And then they make it. I would just be thrilled. Yeah, you throw up smaller. We had quite a few

misses that mixed in there as well. But we had a few hits. Yeah, you got to you got to put

light on the hits or the misses. The misses never happened. Would you like to apologize? Yeah,

I apologize. Tip of the cap. You said you were locked in on the what conferences at the CAA? Yes,

you were locked in. You said I owed a me a copo to the viewers if Hofstra didn't make the big

tournament. Is that what I said? Yeah, me a copo. I didn't call what it meant. Me a copo. Yeah,

sounds like it. So would you like to unlock a copo? Yeah, that's one. I I issue I issue one me a copo.

Okay. That's all I wanted. Can we can we like put a graphic out so people can print it off and

cut it out? Yeah, you could have you could have the me a copo. Yeah, like a certificate.

All right. That's all I want to say. What does it mean? A copo mean?

It's Latin for my fault. It's like my bad. Yeah, my bad. I'm a fancy way to say my bad.

That was all I don't know. That was off the rails. That was funny. What?

I'll be honest. Can I tell you what just happened? I thought that me a copo was different.

I didn't know. Yeah, I would say chill. Yeah, I was I was thinking of a different. You think

it like what what do you think I was? What I was I was I was thinking of the other thing that

starts with an M that like you write a bad guy. Mine comp. Yeah, I was thinking. Oh, you thought

I was going to issue a mine comp. I slipped. Isn't that a book? Yeah, I thought he was going to write.

What? That's why I said chill. You thought that that's one of the most

Registings. I mean, I Dana don't take this the wrong way, but that's like a Dana. Yes. That's

like something Dana would do. Tate. Tate's lowkey dumb. Lowkey dumb. You thought no, I don't know

what I thought, but that's why I was telling you to chill. You thought that I said on the show

that if Hofstra wins the CAA tournament, I will write a book advocating for the extermination

of all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what mine comp means. That means my

struggle. That's what I put the book like you thought that that's I thought dude again, I you

thought I was that invested in Hofstra that I would take it to that level. No, I don't know

what I thought, but I thought you were going to be like that was like my mistake, my struggle,

my struggle. What the fuck? All right, cut that. Oh my god. That should better not go out.

Good lord. Anyway, what were we talking about? This is a basketball show. We were talking about

Navy losing Navy lost Navy was one of the sweethearts that lost and they were on their home court and

people were like, you know, upset and they were not even not upset, but just more like you have

that moment after the loss happens where you just sit there and you go fuck the entire season came

down to this and we blew it. They were ahead of every other team in that conference by 100 spots

in every metric. Yeah, they were the only one who could have maybe given us. But my thing is like

what more can you do for Navy? What more could you possibly they're playing on their home court,

they're playing against the lesser team in their conference that they know well that they have

scouted well that they've you know, like I don't I don't really understand. I don't like this

is this happens in sports. And also it also if like if you're someone that's sad about the idea of

a Cinderella not advancing through the NCAA tournament, you can't then also be sad about the

Cinderella upsetting Navy. You know, like you're selective with your Cinderella's at that point.

I think that the problem is that there are not people that are locked in on a conference tournament

as much as like they just tune in starting that first Thursday or selection something. Yeah.

And you need to be told, hey, this Cinderella was a Cinderella last week as well. Does that make sense?

Yeah. Yeah. Like you think, okay, you know, Hofstra is in this tournament. What if they upset,

what if they beat, you know, a Texas tucker, whatever, that'd be really cool. Well, you should be

told, hey, they did the same thing a week ago. They've been here before. Well, yeah, they just

they're probably not going to be. But they're also not going to keep this going. They were a Cinderella.

Yeah. I don't know. Fairly Dickinson didn't win their conference tournament when they'd be

Purdue. When you're hot, you're hot. The team now won the tournament that year, they were

ineligible. Right. So they're one of the best upsets in the history of merriment.

The history of the sport was a team that didn't win their conference tournament.

Well, that's good. That's good evidence for why you shouldn't stack them. No, I would do.

I think that I like the sunbelt in the WCC. I like that. I like the way they do it. I think like

you still have to go earn it. I think, uh, you know, because like if you can't, if you can't win

one or two tournament games in your own conference tournament, what faith do we have that you're

going to get to the NCAA tournament in one tournament game, you know, so I don't think it's that

big of a deal. I don't think it really. But yeah, I think the Mac does it wrong. I think the

Mac needs to have some buys some sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My other Ohio should be in the final

four of the Mac tournament. No doubt. And they should be playing the other thing is they should

be playing a team that should get a bite of that. That had to work that work to get right. Right.

Right. Right. I think that's going to be coming because the you watch any sort of bracketology

or listen to any show. Everyone has the same take now. That's the hot in the street stake. Yeah.

Who started that? I swear to God, it was us. Well, no, sorry, what the, yeah, the bracket,

like what conference was the first one to do? From my perspective, it was the West Coast conference.

But I don't know. They've been doing it for a while. I don't know if they were the first ones,

but they were the ones that, uh, because Gonzaga, that became like a stat where like Gonzaga's made

however many finals in a row. I think it's 29. Yeah. 29. They made 29. They've won

conference. Yeah. Like you said, it's just they went, have to go in one game. Yeah. Yeah.

I literally remember growing up and watching Gonzaga on Monday nights and it would be like semi-finals

for like the whack. And it's like, how is this possible? I haven't seen them play on like all

weekend, but here they are going the championship. I got a question. That's a guy that fucking

loves March Madness right there. Yeah, he fucking loves you. Uh, I had my doubts, but you're

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Visit Chevy.com. What's going on with the what you mentioned the whack, which I think you met WCC,

but that's okay, Greg. Yeah, because now I'm thinking about the whack. I know I looked at the

sheet and then the guy in my head. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. We fuck stuff up all the time. Um,

but I just you mentioning the whack triggered the thought in my head. You see the Utah Valley story.

Yeah. I like the whack was holding them hostage. I love to pay them. There it is. Yeah, at this time,

Utah Valley University is not complied with the Utah Judges order that directs Utah Valley

University to place $1 million in escrow with the court, the amount of their agreed upon exit fee.

Yada, yada, yada. They did pay the fee. So now Utah Valley can partake in the whack tournament.

I got a question. Can someone dumb that down for me? Why did they owe a million dollars?

They're leaving the conference. And I guess like the some judge somewhere was like if you're

going to leave your breaching a contract some sort, so you have to pay a million dollars.

And Utah Valley, which I don't blame them. I mean, most stuff in college sports,

you just say, fuck you. I'm not doing it. And like nothing really happens. So I think that was

there. But that's how you do it. I think Utah Valley is like, fuck you. We're not doing it. But

then now the conference tournaments about to happen. And I think they did pay it. Yeah, they did.

They paid it. So I think it worked. They were held hostage. The whack put a gun to their head

and said, give us a million. I think that's the only way to hold anyone accountable. You have

to be a mid major because their only ticket to the dance is winning this. Right. They were the one

seed. Right. And so they said, you're either paying this or we might not let you on the court,

which I love. Yeah, it's a $1 million gamble for March Madness.

It's exactly right. Yeah. I think their women's were number one seed, too. Or something like that.

Is Utah Valley the one seed in the whack? Yeah, I think it's the whack report. Yeah, we didn't want.

They won the conference. We did get to the whack report on mid major. Oh, yeah, it wasn't

hot. We missed. Rick fell asleep. It missed the most interesting stuff. I'm scared. I have a

question for you, Mark. Do you put any stock into this kale foster thing? I think you have to,

right? Yeah. And he's not their best player. But I'd say there's a bigger injury than L.J.

Cason. And we made a little bit of a deal out of that for Michigan. Yeah, Dukes. He's good.

He's not. He's not elite. He's not a, you know, maybe what they thought he was going to be when

they recruited him. He's a five star and, you know, going to Duke. You maybe at this point,

a guy of his recruiting prowess would have gone onto the NBA by now. So, you know, like in that

regard, like maybe he's not the best player to come through Duke. But yeah, he's very important.

Great defender. Veteran leader, you know, which, which matters for a team that's led by a

freshman, even though he's not really a freshman, like his mental, boozer's mental makeup is not

a freshman. I'm not worried about that at all. Anybody that has any concerns about like, can we

trust a team led by freshmen to win a national championship? It rarely happens. I think this group

of freshmen, yes, you can. I think they're all different. So, uh, but yeah, I, what he's not

supposed to come back to the final fours, I was they're saying they haven't really put a,

Caleb Foster on it. Um, Gong was out. Yeah, that's a big deal. That is, it's a huge deal for sure,

because I, I do think that like as much as I have, have said that this is a team of boozer and a

bunch of other dudes, the bunch of other dudes are the pieces that fit into the team defense.

And Duke's defense is absolutely elite, maybe the best in the country. Um, and Caleb Foster is

a big reason why I mean, there is no like one guy you point to and say that's why they're so

good defensively, but like having Caleb five, six, five, you know, garden ball handlers, it's

great experience and March. Yeah, half the team does. And so it's like, yeah, losing that's

kind of more important to. Yeah. I think they should be able to make the final four without them,

but I think that's a big deal. Yeah. Titus, your boy, Ebo's Texanus in the group chat saying that

we need to run back the woes clip. Are you ready to, are you ready for take two on that?

Oh, you want the woes take remember what we did. We are about to do take two and then the door was

knocked. Oh, yeah, I don't get a reset. Should we reset again? I don't know if I haven't

made it do it again. No, not like on the show. I'm saying like a woes thing. So like for those

who are just tuning into my relationship with woes, I've been a woeshator for a long time.

And largely stems from his role as the insider that just like him being an ego maniac that wants

to spoil everything and basketball. And he wants credit for everything. And like his job just

does not matter. I have a crusade against scoops guys. When he stepped away from the scoops game,

I said I'd put my sword down. I said I would, I would like, I don't want to attack the man,

although, first of all, he's behind the scenes, whatever. I don't want to attack the man. I want to

attack his role within the basketball landscape. And he stepped away from the role so I don't want to

fight him. But at the same time, what happened to you at the same time, what happened? Hey,

let me get, let me get, let me get the prep sheet up. So I don't know if you guys saw this. Mark

Schmidt will not return to Saint Bonaventure's head coach. I'm not too privy to the information,

but there are, there's reason to believe that woes might be dealing in the back,

Alex, a little bit stabbing his guy in the back so he can bring his own, his own guy. Is that,

are you talking, is this woes at Saint Bonaventure? Is this the woes that when he got the ESPN,

he made ESPN lay off a bunch of basketball reporters to make room for him and their basketball

coverage landscape? And then later when Rachel Nichols was caught on a, on a, a camera that

shouldn't have been turned on, he called her a bad teammate, even though woes had multiple people

fired from ESPN, multiple people fired from ESPN thrown out on the street said, go find your own

shit. Go find a way to feed your own families. I run this shit. Are you talking about that guy?

You tell you, is this the same Bonaventure GM? Are they, are they the same person? Titus, I,

I hate to do this. That's the same exact guy. That guy went to Saint Bonaventure and then within

a couple of years is doing the exact same thing. Oh my God. That's the same guy. Oh, I know.

Shocker. But he's, he's so likable because he's the guy that'll, that'll tell you that, uh,

that, that fucking buddy hill, he old is going to sign an extension, you know, like five minutes

before he gets tweeted out by the team. So I mean, like a guy like that, if you could do that,

you're a likable guy. So I don't, that doesn't, that doesn't really compute with me. How would that

happen? So you're saying the same guy that had the, the same tendencies at ESPN of, of

backstabbing such like me doing the same thing. I'd be doing the same, the same guy who every time

any like up and come and reported ESPN had a story that they wanted to put out, he would have

to attach his name to it because he wouldn't let anybody get any motion at ESPN. Uh, you know,

he would see that as some sort of slide against him and he would say, you know what, you know,

what Tate, that isn't a report by Ohio State. That's a report by Ohio State and Woj. So I'm going

to go ahead and throw my name on that one. And then they put the put on the bottom line as

reported by Ohio State and Woj. Uh, yeah, that's weird. That's really, really weird. All right.

Ebo, that's your clip. That's your clip. There you go. I didn't see it the first time that was

putting entertaining. Oh, it happens every year. Dude, I, I don't want to pat myself on the back.

I don't want to, I don't want to self suck too much. But I, I've been on the, I've been on the

Screeps crusade for a while. And when I started down this path, I, I was on an island. I was,

I was a guy in a, at a time on Twitter where everybody, like, love these scoops guys. They love

them. They just can't get enough of them. That's the whole reason I have a Twitter account.

And so I can follow Adam Schaefter and Woj and they can tell me what's going on in the sports role.

That's what people would say to me. I think as time has gone on. I've been proven nothing but

right on these guys. All right. That's what I think from where I'm sitting. I've had a lot of people

just kind of let them maybe be like, dude, I thought you were crazy, but I'm starting to get it now.

Are you are you off on all scoops guys?

I'm off on the industry. I'm off on the industry as a whole. Yeah. Um, but like some guys are

different. Like it, it, it, it depends on how you go about it. Like I do think shams and

roasting are just robots. And they don't, this is going to sound insane. But like I really don't

think either one of them have that big of egos. Like, of course, you have an ego. Everybody has an

ego in this, in this, yeah, like we all have egos. If you, you, you, you have to have an ego to

sit down with a microphone in front of you and a camera and say what I'm, what I'm telling you

is interesting. You should listen to me. So we all have egos. I'm not saying we don't. But, um,

I feel like those two guys are just like fucking robots that like don't, or just program to just

they, they just don't know what the hell's going on. Like they don't, they don't really have

like a world outside of this. They're just fed information. They tweet it. They don't really,

they're just beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Every story they break has a credit to the agent

at the end of it. Yeah. And they're just kind of like stuck in this like programming of like

not really knowing, whereas like a guy like a woj and a guy like a shifter, give me vibes of just

like I want to conquer the world. I think I want to do it through like this information game

that I'm playing. And I think I'm little finger from Game of Thrones. And I am so important. And

I'm so important. And if I wasn't part of this, this, the landscape of sports, oh my god,

the NBA and the NFL would crumble without me. And that's just not true. I hate, I know you don't

need validation, but the chat says this is the greatest sports take you've ever had. Mark was

right. Yeah. I mean, but like you go back, I'll have to dig up the receipts, man. Go back,

like my first time ever ran about woj, people were like, you're such a jealous fucking.

You're so jealous, dude. You're so jealous. You don't know where Deandre and his thinking of

going in free agency. That's what this stems from. You have no sources. And it doesn't. It just

stems from never wrong. You and you and Bosco. Bosco's not a woj guy either, right? No, he hates

something like that. I don't know if they've, the hatchet's been buried, but I'm pretty sure he has

a long standing beef with him. Yeah. But I, who's that guy versus, oh, yeah. 20 real woj. Look at,

yeah, I hadn't really pulled this up. You've got years of reigns about woj. Yeah, yeah, that's

what I say. Like, when woj and Bruce Pearl are two guys that I just, like, I constantly talk about

and I, like, I did a Bruce Pearl thing on mostly sports the other day. And I didn't want to get

that into it because like, I've done the rant 10,000 times. And then I get, I wish I would have,

if I were to know it would have become what it became, I would have been a little more eloquent

and coherent with my rant. Because I was sort of like, I was just sort of like, listen,

there's no need to rehash the Bruce Pearl shit. Bruce Pearl sucks, yada yada yada. And then,

and then I got people tweeting to me, they're like, you didn't even make any points. And I'm like,

I didn't know I needed to make points. I thought it was known. Like Google his name,

read Google Bruce Pearl and just read some shit. That's why it's really not that hard.

So yeah, these are two wells that I keep going back to and I wish I wouldn't, but they keep

popping up. Both of those guys keep popping up in the news. I have a segment I'd like to launch.

Okay. The show is winding down. It is. I have a segment for Cody that I would like to launch.

And this is not college basketball, but it isn't in the realm of basketball. This segment is called

bar or

we're rhymes of bar. What's like no? Oh, it's like no, like a no.

Mar tar tar tar

bar or like Greg. That's a tar. And that's brought to you by bar or tar. Brought to you by bar

still Greg. Do you see what SGA said about his game winner against the nuggets?

Cornie. Did you see this quote, Cody? Cornie? No. Pull up the quote.

So answers to the test. I fucking hate the answers to the test is the phrase if you need more

to go off of. Okay. And Cody, you are the corny. You want the corny guy? I think it was very

corny. Cody, you are the, how would you describe Cody to the audience? He is the here at bar still.

He is the the bars guy. He is the lines. He's the guy. He's the guy who judges this stuff.

He comes up with little quips, little word plays, you know, bar or bizarre, bar or bizarre.

I like that. Okay. But I don't know bar or tar just rolls off the tar. Bar or tar is way better.

Give me the tar. Bar or tar. Cody, play the SGA clip and you tell me whether this is a bar or

this is a tar. I have answers to the test, but like I got to see the questions first. So once I see

bar bar. That's a bar for you. I have answers. So corny. That's tar. That's a bar. I have answers to

the test, but I need to see the questions first. That fucking rocks. That doesn't make that doesn't

make one lick of sense. Yeah, but it sounds cool. It doesn't need to make sense. How can you have

the answers if you don't know the questions? Because he's already saying like he knows what's

going to happen. He just got to see what you can. Give me the answers to the test. Give me some

answers to a test right now, Cody. Seven. Yeah. B. What's the capital of Lithuania was the question?

Oh, I thought it was that. So I mean, like you should have known. Yeah. How do you have the answers

to the test without knowing the questions? At least this is basketball. Okay. That's basketball.

I might make it my life submission to be the biggest thunderhead or ever. I really hate them.

Join me. I hate them. Are you are too? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're all fucking cornballs.

I did. I was a Pacers fan during the finals last year because it just was fun. And I'm from

Indiana. And I fell into the role. And I went on a rant about SGA. And then Bob Ryan called me

a shithead. And I'm finest. And that's solidified. He's from my hometown. Wait, Mark, you hated SGA

for his flopping and his foul baiting. Yeah. Well, bam last night. Oh, we didn't even talk.

Yeah, we didn't talk about bam. I'll tell you how I feel about bam on most of sports. How about that?

We'll talk about that on most of sports. All right, folks. That is our Wednesday edition. Guys,

we got hoops in 30 minutes. Let's go. I mean, today is officially the day where I know it's, you know,

your your Iowa's, your Maryland, your Indiana's. It's not the big dogs yet. You're Kentucky's

a conference-turni-play for the power conferences is really rolling. Greg, how long you here?

Three Saturday. Oh my God. I don't know what I did to deserve all this love. Good karma. I have

I don't know what I did. I got two things to, by the way. We didn't. God is real. Yeah, go ahead.

You should ask. One minute search deserves to be first team. Big 10. Okay. I have hometown hometown bias

in the same high school. So he was first team. Big 10. No, on AP.

Oh, okay. So he just coaches. He wasn't. Yeah, just coaches. He was second team AP.

Second Arkansas fans can go suck a day. Oh, I fucking hate their guts. Oh, all right.

No, that's all I just fucking Arkansas fans. Wow, okay. So yeah, that's it. All right, and we'll see you

guys on Friday.