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Because our deepest wounds often reveal our greatest purpose.

Welcome to the Court of Connection, your host, Danielle Cobb here.

And I have a very special guest, Shannon Gill.

She is an astrologer, and I have been following her for some time now.

So excited to share you with her.

Share you guys.

Share her with you.

Oh, my gosh, I have COVID-brain.

It's OK.

To really dig in what's going on astrologically to see,

we have this huge astrological push happening right now.

And then to talk about her 5D transmission,

which is something I did recently that I'm very, very, very excited to hear more about

and to share with you guys.

So Shannon, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much.

I'm really excited to be here and to share and to support you and your evolution as well.

So excited.

Yes, thank you for your time.

So I think it's a good time to share now that I did a reading with you,

5D transmission, and we'll get into the details of that later.

But it's been very powerful and profound to see how my experience has laid up against this.

And tomorrow is my last day of my 9-5 job that I've had for 9 years.

I am in the middle of my Jupiter return.

There's so much happening in my world.

And so I'm just excited to hear your perspective on what's going on collectively.

And what we can expect in this next year.

Right.

Well, expect the unexpected.

I mean, just to back up a little bit, just to say that, first of all,

we've all been preparing for this moment, preparing for this cusp period where we

sort of signed up before this lifetime to be the death doula and the birth doula.

Simultaneously, birthing a new age, putting to rest the archaic,

distorted, corrupt, dark ages.

And, you know, I mean, perhaps the 60s is when this process really started.

Because when we're talking about these longer cycles shifting,

the cusp period could easily be 5200-200 years, right?

Because we're talking about the ages, which are epochs.

They're 2,000 years long.

And we stand here at the dawn of this new age of Aquarius,

which we've heard about for so long.

And I've always felt like we're having, you know, like Braxton Hicks.

Kind of like, are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

But the reality is that there is this cusp period where we're experiencing both.

The disintegration and the collapse of the old as the new earth is rising.

And however, I mean, I think everybody can attest to this.

It's been heating up.

It's been accelerating.

I mean, we're not in the same land that we ran even two years ago, right?

And with the emergence of AI and really all of these shifts with technology,

as well as the intensification with the theater of war.

And then, of course, the great revealing of all of the insidious darkness,

it's all pervasive, it's accelerated,

and it's intensified dramatically.

And that, to me, feels like it's because we're we're arriving.

We're arriving at this last push.

You know, it's like we've been having Braxton Hicks.

We've been, you know, prepared to go to the hospital.

We've got our bags packed.

You know, it's like, and I do feel like this year,

really, what I, what I feel is this cusp between 2025 and 2026

is the real, the final turning.

You know, there is, there is sort of a school of thought also about this,

this phenomenon called the fourth turning.

And we also know that the Colley, you got ended in March.

You know, the astrological ages are shifting.

We went from a nine year in 2025 to a one year in 2026.

It's the, you know, 2025 lunar year is the year of the snake, right?

And so, and I don't know if anybody else out there has had an intense year.

But yeah, right.

I mean, I think that's a rhetorical question.

And I'm almost shocking, almost like, wow, I've done so much work.

And I've, you know, therapy for years and all the things, right?

But it's like this final purge and you can feel it on the planet

and we can feel it in ourselves because there is no separation

before we enter the year of the fire horse, which starts February 17th, right?

So that's like five days from now.

And so we've all been in this necessary cauldron of burning off

all that can't make it through the eye of the needle.

And in those of us that are sort of on the front lines,

I think it's even more intense for because we're capable.

And we're doing collective healing.

And so we've got the shift into the fire horse coming,

which we can talk about that if you want.

But also even greater than that is the ingress of two outer planets,

Saturn and Neptune leaving the end of the zodiac,

which is the last sign of the zodiac, which is Pisces

and entering the zero point of areas, which is the beginning.

So just even if you don't know astrology,

you can just know like the end and the beginning.

And there are incremental shifts, right?

When we talk about the wide breaststroke of the ages,

which is the backdrop, like the 2000 year.

And then 2020 was a big one where the towers came down.

And then these outer planets now have been creeping through

what we call the death degree of the zodiac,

which is this last few degrees of Pisces,

which Pisces is, it is the dream, you know, it's the collective.

But the shadow of it is illusion and deception and disorientation.

And so we've been in this like soup of what is real, right?

As we're watching everything fall and everything's being revealed

in the time of the great revealing, right?

This is the prophesized time of the apocalypse, the revelations.

We can't heal what we don't see, right?

Not that this has gotten so dark.

It's just that it's being uncovered that the curtains are now open.

And so these two planets, Saturn,

which rules are their dimensional reality and Neptune,

which actually rules Pisces, which is the dream and the collective,

leaving the end of the zodiac and entering the zero point,

which is the birth point of Aries, which is birth of the new beginning,

like truly, these two planets come together every 36 years, not a big deal.

They haven't come together at the zero point of Aries in 6000 years.

Wow.

6000 years.

Wow.

And that's this week.

That's wow.

Yeah.

You know what was happening 6000 years ago, like,

like any, I'm, I'm thinking like, I don't know history that far back,

but that's a great question.

I'd have to ask Russell that, you know, like he is the historic bluff.

But yeah, I mean, I think that in general, humanity has gone asleep

and woken up since the beginning of time.

And that's what these larger spans of times.

These are the uges cycles.

These are the ages like, you know, in Greece, they call it the Iron Age,

the Golden Age.

And so it, and basically, when we say go to sleep, it's consciousness,

right?

We rise in consciousness through some of the great civilizations in Egypt is, you know,

is one and then the fall.

And, and we've been in this underworld as a collective.

And we're now just starting to emerge.

I mean, we think about the, the length of time we're talking about,

which these ages are the collective consciousness or the paradigm for that period.

You know, they're 2000 plus years long.

So we really have to understand that we're in a long game.

Like this, our, this lifetime, we can see ourselves as farmers planting seeds for the future.

And, and, and quite honestly, when you, you know, just to go circle back to your question

about 2026, we are really planting the seeds for this whole new massive accelerated shift.

And it's going to be this bifurcation of the, the disintegration

and the, the falling of the old empires.

And then we have a lot of work to do, you know, to reconstruct every system of our world

because they're all tied into the same toxic roots.

And it's happening.

And it's happening.

And the good news is, we're not just straddling the ages,

but we're straddling the dimensional states.

And as an evolutionary astrologer, my focus is the evolution of consciousness.

So the third dimension is what's, you know, dissolving.

And the higher dimensional states, fourth and fifth dimension,

is where we are arriving and have greater access to,

which is all based in frequency and liberation, which you know.

And so when we're able to attune to not just attain, but maintain these higher frequency states,

we're exempt from the chaos to some degree.

And we open up a gate of our true essential nature, which is our God fractal, our Godself.

We're things just flow.

This is the everyday magic, the serendipity, the synchronicities.

It's like you're at the right place at the right time.

There's unlimited abundance, support, creativity, joy.

And, and so this really is the simultaneous universe's coexisting at the name time.

So, so in some ways, it's, it's easy or simple, not easy.

I feel like what our greatest challenges right now is to constantly in those higher dimensions.

As much as we can.

Yeah, yeah.

For those who don't know astrology well, can you, can you tell us what the biggest

difference between, describe what, what the age of Pisces is and what the age of areas is,

what we're moving into?

Yes, absolutely.

So, it's, we're leaving the age of Pisces and entering the age of Aquarius.

Aquarius.

But, but this, and I don't know you know that, but, but the Ares point is the Saturn Neptune

or entering Ares.

Right.

It's got, yeah.

So, good question.

So, cliff notes is, you know, astrology is a code.

It's the language of light.

So, you can look at the symbols to get the, the downloads, right?

And so, Pisces in simplicity is the age,

well, it's the, the glyph of the two fish that are swimming in opposite directions.

So, it's an age of duality with an illusion, which is also a shadow of Pisces illusion,

of a separation between matter and spirit.

It's just a simple way I always like to frame this, where man's down here,

God's somewhere, Nebulous out there, who's an age of faith, where we believed in something

greater than us outside of ourselves.

So, the program was that God is outside of us, and we needed an intermediary.

We were programmed, we were powerless to control us, basically, you know, a hierarchical paradigm.

And so, if we think we're separate and we're powerless, then we're more

opt-app to give over our power and control to the systems, the government, the church,

the doctors, the nighttime news, bystanders to reality, not engage, not in contact with the truth.

So, that's what's ending the 2000 year age of corruption and deception and illusion.

Because if you look at the ancient glyph, the ancient text, the two fish were connected by a golden

cord. They were never separate. This was just the illusion and the program.

So, the Aquarian Age is the return of the parusha, which is a Vedic term for one mind consciousness.

I like to call it organismic consciousness, where we remember we're actually all one organism.

It is about the integration of duality, the unification, which creates a scissorgy.

This is why I do a lot of work with sacred partnership, because if masculine and feminine,

and I'm not talking much under, can unify. It actually creates a third energy,

a toroidal field of energy, which raises the vibrational field around them.

And this is also why relationships become the holy cauldron, all kinds of relationships.

The sacred mirror, because so long as we're pointing the finger outside of ourselves,

it's this country, it's that politician, it's this family member, we're still asleep in the

Pisces Age because there's nothing outside of us. We're all one consciousness. So relationships

become the accelerating force to either perpetuate the disease, the illusion of separation,

or to burn through it, alchemically, and to see everything in everyone as a fractal reflection

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Not that there's anything wrong with these languages. They're all beautiful,

but we've been off track with that because those models have been part of the program to

keep us in sleep. We have to be able to see through that and read through that, and even the

Bible is an astrological treatise. If you have the eyes and ears to see it. The biological

process of awakening is very much on a DNA level. It's on a chakra level. It's truly like

the return of Christ is our pineal gland opening up to receive the light, to receive and be a

unified consciousness with the origin source. The more that we can really,

I think there's so much around ascension. It's also about descent, and bringing that light

consciousness down into the body. Genkis is so awesome. Another amazing convergence of cycles

that talks about in 2027, this return of the gene that was co-opted by the Arcons to separate us,

and to take us away from our natural telepathic gifts, and all these things are coming back online.

And the zero of the snake was preparation that anything that is not of purity, all our old

patterns, our karmas, our addictions, our attachments, our false beliefs had to go,

being that in this new year, we're off to the races with the Chinese Year of the Fire Force.

So Aquarius is about us not just remembering that we're all one organism, but starting to

constantly in community as an organism. Because truthfully, things are probably going to get worse

on the planet before they get better. So you better know your neighbors. You better know your

neighbors. You better start thinking about things like that. As we're watching the economy,

I won't say collapse because that's not what I'm manifesting of transform, transform,

right? Yes. So there's there's there's reality and you don't want to go into fear. But there's

wisdom and preparation, which it has everything to do with us coming together.

So beautiful. Thank you so much. Yeah, I can feel the collective. I can feel people moving towards

let I can feel people being done with this illusionary way of living and just really waking up

on a collective level. It's beautiful to watch. And it's also really destabilizing, you know,

in the beginning, because everything you thought you knew is now not what you thought, right?

And I know I personally went through a pretty jolting transition about seven months ago.

And I've been through many awakenings in my life. I've been on this journey of, you know,

consciousness and waking up for quite some time. But I had another massive awakening and it was like

it was like I was rocketed onto another dimension for a while. And I really had to do a lot of

grounding and isolating from people and the collective for a minute. And I finally feel,

you know, a couple months ago, I started to integrate and I'm seeing that happen with a lot of

people. And it's it's cool because now I get to support other people on that path too and be like

you're going to be fine. It's okay. You know, right. Did you have that experience? Oh my gosh.

Yes, recently. Oh, I sure did. Actually, I called the season of shedding. I own been in the

chrysalis since the previous eclipse cycle. Oh, that's the other thing about February's. We're

in the eclipse portal. So February 17th is not just the lunar new year where we enter into the

year of the state, but it's the first Aquarius eclipse for that we haven't had in nine years.

So all the eclipses have been in Virgo Pisces. Now they're going to be in Leo Aries, which we're

really in at the in acceleration of the awakening because Aquarius is about enlightenment. It's like

we wake up and constantly as this really sacred witness where we understand all of this and see

through the illusion, but a hundred percent. You know, and I've had whoever follows astrology,

I have zero degrees of Aquarius ascendant. So I've had grind over it five times in the last two

years. Oh my gosh. No, I was more like no. Sorry.

Neptune and Saturn at the death degree of the zodiac has been exactly opposing my mood. So I

literally have experienced my life as the micro of the macro. I mean, I bought the domain name,

the shift foundation 20 years ago, knowing that this was coming, right? And and still shocking.

Like this last this last shedding, the fifth pass with Pluto was surprisingly

excruciating. Honestly. And thankfully for my awareness of astrology, right? Because I knew what

what was happening for my witness perspective, for my capacity, for my Buddhist background to watch

it. But I still had to go through it because the soul evolves through the emotional body.

And I don't have any water in my chart. Man, I was super watery. And I also knew that this was

collective because I had the capacity to move a lot of energy. So I really did. I went into the

crystal is my friends friends worried about me. I said, this is just my nonverbal state, you know,

the caterpillar turns to mush. I'm reborn and I'm not communicating yet. And I knew I was getting

codes like I knew that. But wow. Yeah. And only here recently, like around the embulk,

when the little groundhog is like, can we see the light? You know, I was like,

you're almost there. Yeah. It's it's all going to be okay. Yes. Yes. So what signs do you feel like

have a particular favor this year? Are there any? That's an interesting question.

And so the Saturn Neptune at the zero areas means that areas,

Libra, Cancer and Capricorn are kind of the way I would see it sort of like,

like I like just referred the micro of the macro where they so we're this alignment reflects the

new era. And so these four signs are really in that birth process as well, very directly in their

own life as birthing a new era. I mean, we all are, but you know, you asked a question that I

want to at least answer Jupiter, you know, the great benefit. As you said, you're in your Jupiter

return and and so Jupiter has been in cancer and is going and so wherever Jupiter takes 12

years to go around the zodiac. So it spends a year in each sign. So those people that have been in

cancer have had their Jupiter year, their Jubilee year, which is a time of expansion and opportunity

and luck and abundance and a new horizon. And so it will be finishing up its time in cancer and

moving into Leo. And so Leo's will have their Jubilee year. And if you have any planets in those

signs, like it doesn't just have to be your son, right? Your your son is your your gift to life,

your light that you shine. But if it's your moon, you know, it could be like you're going to be

feeling emotionally buoyant or you might move because moon is house and home and it's emotions.

It might be on Venus, which is going to be on my Venus, you know, so maybe you can find finances

and real maths. So the chart is complex, you know, and I will say that like, you know, even what I

said, the Cardinal Cross of Cancer, Capricorn, Leo Aries, other people will also be affected by this,

this ingress, this new era. I guess I would also say, yeah, Leo Aquarius, because the nodes,

which creates the eclipses, which is the karmic destiny line, anybody with a lot of Leo

and Aquarius, this is going to be a very faded year, because this is the nodes of fate.

And that will be in those signs. So I mean, everybody has something in store. That's why I should

know your chart. Yeah. On that note, you know, you hear a lot of people like overly identifying

with their son sign, which is honestly probably a little less relevant. I personally think

than are rising in moon, but I'd love your perspective on that. I think that's fair to say,

especially because most people are just tuning into like horoscopic, you know, very generalized

astrology, whether it's online or an app or something, which there, there is some good stuff out

there too, but every planet was somewhere when you were born. So we're symphony of energies.

Your son is simply your masculine expression. Your moon is your feminine, right? Your ascendant

is your growth edge of your like driver and your sort of like orientation towards like,

but as an evolutionary astrologer, I see all of that. Your son moon ascendant as your costume.

Because in your next life, when you're born at a different time in space, you're going to have

a different chart, a different outfit on, but who are you on a soul level is represented by the

nodes of fate, the destiny line. And so, and in both sides of the axis, because instead of seeing

12 separate signs, it's better see six axis of polarity. So the soul is represented. The soul's

journey through many lifetimes by the north and south node. So that would be, I mean, for me,

that's what I really go to because that's why are we here, right? What is our karma to burn off

and what is our Dharma? What are we stepping into? And, and so it all has meaning and importance,

but I would lean towards the nodes actually. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. So what does that mean for me? My

my north node is in Aquarius. Ah, so you're going to be having your nodal return. Because

then the nodes move into Aquarius Leo this summer. We are having our first Leo, excuse me,

Aquarius eclipse, but the nodes aren't exactly there yet. It's a little more complex to go into,

but the nodes are what creates the eclipse. So the nodes take 18 and a half years to go around

the zodiac. So every 18 and a half years, you have your nodal return, which is a karmic checkpoint

where you're saying, it's like your higher self saying, okay, Danielle, where are you? And you're,

you know, your contract with yourself to balance these poles, to clean up this karma from the south

node of Leo, which could be, you know, south node Leo coming from fame and notoriety and influence,

and you know, it could even be like royalty. And so there's some kind of way you've come in with a

lot of light and a lot of capacity for leadership and not getting caught in, I mean, I always laugh,

and I know I shared this with you and you're reading, I'm sure, because I tell everybody this

with the south node Leo, my son's Leo, my dad's Leo, the sun is every sign is ruled by planet,

okay, and the sun rules Leo. And so you're bringing the light like you are the emanation with

yourself, no Leo. But the shadow, which is sometimes the karma of the past lives, is, you know,

all the planets, constellating around the sun and the sun is saying, what, you don't know who I

am, I'd like to, yeah, like universe, you know, so they're sometimes like a humbling experience

sometimes. And then you realize that you're here to take all of that fire and all of that light

and charge forward to utilize it for the evolution of humanity, which is the Aquarius North node,

the evolution, the ascension process. So you balance out your, your light and your gifts and your

power and influence, and you, you funnel it for the collective. And then, and so my sense,

knowing you, is that this shift that you're making right now out of the nine year, which is

interesting. Yeah, nine, nine year, one year, right, is very connected to this nodal return you're

having where your soul is saying, like, okay, are you going to dim in the another thing is sometimes

Leo sound as dim their light they might end. And I know with Scorpio moons, sometimes you're just like,

nope, not safe. And so I feel like this year, and it may be that the actual nodal return will

happen till the end of the year or even next year for you would have to look at the degrees.

Something really significant and faded is going to come through, which I feel like you already

can sense that because you're already well underway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This whole past, I

I've had so many conversations with my close circle of this past year, this gestation period has

just been preparing me for this massive launch. Like, I don't think that I could have missed this moment

because I've, when I look back on my life in this past nine years, it was like almost every few

years, something was presented and was like, are you ready to jump? And I'm like, no. And this,

this past year, I knew I knew that this year was the year I was going to leave. I don't know what

it was. I just felt it in my body. And it was almost like whether you want to or not, you're going,

you know? Yes. And the beautiful, like adventurous part of this whole experience is that I don't

have it figured out. Like, I don't even know, like, I have a sense of what I want to do, right? I

want to do life coaching. I want to do workshops and retreats. You know, I want to have a heavy

emphasis on life transitions and your somatic body and holding, staying with yourself through all of

that. But I don't have it like figured out yet. So I'm, I'm really in this like very exciting

transition phase where I get to like tap into creativity, drop into the feminine and allow whatever

is like begging to come through to come through because I can feel it. I just energetically needed

to move on from this other situation to allow. So it's an existential moment for everyone on

the planet right now. Yes. And we have to leak. I mean, it's, it's really just really rooting

and in faith and trusting the unfolding really just trusting the unfolding. And it's all going to,

it's all going to reveal itself, you know? And, and things have felt very sort of slow and

nebulous because of this into the zodiac with Saturn and Neptune. It's like, I can sense it. I can't

see it. I trust it. But is it, you know? And so like literally this week, we turn the page.

And the elements are going, it's air and fire. It's just everything's going to speed up. So

so bravo for, for your bravery. Thank you. Yeah. Courage. Yeah. And I do believe in this, this

next phase, like nervous system work is so vital because we're being asked to do a lot,

you know, we're being asked to step out of fear and into the unknown. And we have to be able to

hold ourself through that. So I'm, I'm, there's been a heavy emphasis on that, on that work for me

lately. But I would love to hear if you're, if you're willing to share what your North note is

and, and kind of in you windowing into this last year of gestation for you and this emerging

of the 5D transmission that that came through you. I know that was a lot, but I know. Well, let's see,

my north node is in Capricorn, which is the archetype of the elder leader in the 12th house of

Pisces, which is the mystic, which is the collective. And so that means that my self node,

where your self node is where you can get stuck. It's your most recent past lives, where you're

comfortable, where you're cut gray and everything flows in some ways. But you have to kind of leave

the comfortability and go into the more uncomfortability to evolve, right? So the South

as cancer, which is the, the divine mother in the 6th house of Virgo, which is

busy mothering, doing all the things. I mean, yeah, it's just like, um, yeah. So it's been this

trying to balance out my career and, and my family, you know, just in a very practical way,

my children, I have two children. And, and also I can just get really caught up in the like Virgo,

like I've got three planets in Virgo in Western, my, I'm a sunbird, like all the like little details

of things, right? And, um, and so my growth edge is to, to trust and grow my leadership for the

collective. And, um, I would say that I've been doing that to some degree, you know, but then I

also go back into like patterns and there'd be sort of like sometimes seesaw between that.

And there's also something about healing emotional, uh, historical maternal paternal stuff with

cancer, it's the family. And, uh, graduating into a level of more mastery and sort of like

surrendering a lot of the past, like cancer holds onto the past. So like letting go of the past

and really just moving forward. So that's my nodes. And, um, yeah, so I would say the Pluto

transit over my ascendant, not everyone will experience that because Pluto's our furthest planet

takes 248 years. Go around Zodiac. Um, and, you know, as an astrologer, it's kind of that bitter sweet

like you anticipate things. And so I, um, was nervous watching it come for two years. And

rightfully so because my little brother actually died when Pluto crossed his descendants in 2014,

John. Um, and that's a whole nother story, but, you know, a massive initiation for me, of course,

you know, he's my guide on the other side. He was very young, 33. But, you know, having not

watching witnessing that and then here comes Pluto for my ascendant a few years later,

it's very rarely literal. Okay, Justin Zay. Like I don't want anybody to freak out out there.

Actually, I did all this research about positive, uh, experience with Pluto over the ascendant.

Like I was thinking, I did because I was like, I had that program in my thorns, you know,

and so, uh, the thing about my experience is that the ascendant is your identity,

and I had zero queries. I also have zero Leo Venus, Venus and zero Leo. So anything that crosses

my ascendant opposes my Venus, which is my relationships and my finances. So it was a two-year

total reconstruction of all of that, me, my identity, my relationship, my finances. I'm in a

twin flame union. We do collective healing. It was really brutal and absolutely necessary.

And so, after the fifth pass, or like in this fifth pass, I was a little tired.

And I also knew that I had known that before before this came, I knew I would be forever changed

whenever it was complete. And so whenever I got to the fifth pass, I said to myself,

you need to rest and stop all your vergo-ness and doing to receive the coordinates for your

rebirth, right? I mean, the town of Pillar turns to mush, turns to goo. Does it, does it know it's

going to become a butterfly? Probably not. Thank goodness I do, right? So I did. So this summer,

I took some time and I scaled back with clients to dream, you know, and to like, it's like,

oh, I survived. Okay, now what? What do I really want? What do I really lights me up, right?

How can I best serve? Because, you know, Russell and I have the shift foundation, our nonprofit,

we've been doing this work together for almost 10 years. And we realized about a year ago,

I was like, oh, my God, like, we've arrived. Like, the mission has to change. We're in a completely

different terrain, right? Before it was like, warning people, like, on the megabyte, like,

something big is coming, like, get ready. Yeah. And now it's like, the coordinates have changed

for all of us, right? So, so, so I did that. I took some space and in that summer space where I'm

feeling into, like, Venus is my ruling planet. What would Venus do? What does Venus want?

And it, I, this doorway opened up this rabbit hole. As I was in this, this period of, of openness to

call in my new coordinates, I was working with a couple of astrologers who are good friends,

David and Bella of quantum plant, quantum Earth plant. I think I might have got that wrong.

Anyway, they do amazing work. And I was their astrologer for their tribe. And I was doing

these full moon downloads. And they started questioning the difference between the tropical and

the ciderial zodiac. So for anyone that may be not familiar, I'm primarily a tropical western

astrologer, where the zodiac, which is, you know, basically, the, the, the path of the planets

is, is oriented around the seasons. So the beginning of the zodiac, the zero point of

areas is when the sun enters areas at the spring equinox. It's aligned with seasons when the

life returns, right? Users a little bit more of a complex thing. I'm not going to go into detail.

But Veda Astrology, Western, Eastern Astrology, they

constulate their zodiac with the actual constellations. So every now and then you see in social media,

like, wait, you're not a Virgo, you're a Leo or wait. If you look with the apps now that we have

technology, right? Wait, you know, the sun's not in the curious. You know, it's in Capricorn.

And being free out, like, right, you've seen this. And I know you know what I'm talking about,

because you came for me. So I, in the state of question, everything, because that's what Pluto did

for me is have me question everything in my life. Also started getting curious about questioning

the different systems. I think that's smart for everyone right now on planet Earth. We need to

all be questioning everything, right? And so down the rabbit hole, I went. And the thing that really

caught my attention whenever I started looking at constellation astrology is that, you know, we're

are based on the 12, 12 planets, right? 12 months. And then we came across the fact that there's not

12. There's 13. There is a 13th constellation named a fukus. And there is an emerging

school of astrology that is called 13 constellation astrology, which uses the constellations,

but includes the 13th. The 13th constellation of fukus is the serpent bear. It's the most powerful

of all of them. And it's literally been written out of the zeitgeist. And two, the King's Chamber

in Egypt, the zodiac is there, all 13 except a fukus is blocked out. If you look at ancient texts,

a fukus is either there or it's been crossed out. And basically a fukus is what we're terming the

ascension ladder. It sits between Scorpio and Sagittarius. And Scorpio's the stinger, like

Scorpio is the wound, right? And Sagittarius is the higher consciousness that comes

after the descent. But the one that actually assists us in the alchemical process of

evolving out of the wound is a fukus. In the serpent bear, it is the shaman. It is the alchemist.

It's the one that slays the snake and uses the venom as medicine. It's the Kundalini. So it's

the symbol of the weaving together of the item, the pangelo, which is our skate hatch out of Amnesia,

out of the pangelo. It's literally in our body. It's even a symbol for Western medicine, the caduses,

you know, the staff hits the two snakes, kissing at the pineal gland, which is the wakening point

in the system. And so I just went and then I started putting, I've always known about the,

you know, the projection of negativity and evil onto 13 Friday the 13th, right? And why do we have

13 months? Excuse me, 13 months, 12 months. So I went down a deep deep dive of research and I took

my community with me and created a blog series called Question Everything. And I started

trying on my chart in the 13th Constellational Zodiac system and was mindless and was getting

direct information from the quantum field. So you know whenever something is right because it's,

it's the synchronicities abound. And so I just started going deeper, deeper, deeper,

and basically cultivated what I'm calling this new system of working with both charts.

I'll never say this one's wrong and this one's right because I don't believe, I don't see anything

like that. I see anytime we're thinking one is right and one is wrong, we're in duality,

we're in the crisis age. I mean, astrology essentially is a construct of the mind anyway trying to

define the indefinable, right, created by man. And so and ultimately we are all of the

architects, we are the universe. So our map, our map is our, our guidepost, it's nice to have

some coordinates to work with. So my system is what I'm calling 5D new earth readings where we look

at your Western chart that you've always known as very applicable and relative to your experience

in the matrix, in the third dimension, which has been essentially about burning off your karma

and your awakening process. Now we all know that we're in a completely different vibrational state

on the planet right now, or at least we have access to that, these, these 5D energies.

And as an evolutionary astrologer, my focus is evolution of consciousness. Why wouldn't we not have

a different costume in the new earth? Why would we not have new coordinates, right? So I'm giving

these readings where we're looking at where you're coming from and where you're going.

And it has been pretty just mind blowing for people. I've given 30, 35 readings now.

It's not like trying on a pair of shoes that doesn't fit. It's more like wow, I've always felt

that or wow. This is a part of me that I have been scared to express. So it's giving people

permission to lean into a different dimension of themselves. And we are evolving dimensionally

into our multi-dimensionality. Yeah. So so thank you for the opportunity to share about this.

This is the first time I've talked about it on on air. Yes, yes. I feel like I was one of the first

people to sign up to have to have reading. Have you met doing doing you know the 30 to 35? Have

you met any people who have, I'm going to say it wrong, Ophicus. Ophicus. Yes. Like strong

placements. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And actually this week, I had a woman that was sun and moon in

Ophicus. And this is what I'm talking about, the synchronicities. I get her registration form.

I read her questions and it was saying, and she was saying, I feel inspired to become a death

doula. And you know, and to develop my shot, shamanistic interests. Yeah. And I'm like,

okay, you know, like Ophicus is the shaman. It is the doorway to the other side. That's exactly

what she wanted to step into. Wow. And so the synchronicity also of the timing of her coming to me

and needing that transmission, like it's been all very magical. And so I'm really been grateful

to serve this way. Because for some people, it's different. It's like, you know, like a lot of

the Virgos, you know, we're graduating out of, or you know, Virgos are graduating out of Virgo

and Delio. It's like, I can like hang up my mop bucket and stop cleaning up everybody's messes.

And I can live for more play, playfulness and joy and things like that. So that's me. And then

a lot of people that were Scorpio, you know, are now Virgo. And they're like done with the heavy

lifting, done with the dark shadow work, you know, now I get to worry about the holy temple and

the ascension process through the body. And I think that's you, right, with your moon and

Scorpio. I actually went from Scorpio moon to Lieber moon. Is that tells Lieber. Yes. Yes. Which

is more balance and grace and harmony. Yes. And and out of the, you know, the underworld.

Oh, yeah. I remember when I did the reading with you, because I was just like, I could feel the

ending of the fight, you know, coming. But it was just like such confirmation where it's like,

oh, this back half of my life gets to look like not a continual, you know, going into the shadows

and then emerging, going into the shadows and then emerging, you know, um, Hallelujah. Kind of

like that. You know, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. I had such a profound

experience with that reading. And um, one of the things that you mentioned too is that I'm,

you know, I'm a Leo, Leo Sun Leo rising, my rising didn't change, but my, my Sun sign changed

to cancer. And something that's really stuck with me is that you kind of described it as like the,

the wise grandmother, um, you know, and I, I, I deeply resonate with that. Like I, I am somebody who

is kind of an anchor in my community, you know, I'm like the, the anchor person, I guess. Yeah.

And so that made that made so much sense to me and deeply resonated.

Beautiful. Yeah. And she's also one of the three healers in the chart.

You know, and, um, and, and yes, as far as this transition that you're going through, right?

You know, really attuning more to your, your internal knowing, your intuition and, and your empathy

and, and also working with women, right, working with that divine feminine principle. And you don't lose

Leo completely. So you still have that leadership and that emanation and creativity.

And that's the thing that's been interesting about these readings is that it's very rare that someone

completely loses an archetype. Usually they're just shifting positions and shifting, um, orientations

and like doses, dosages. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so many pointed out recently that I have a,

I think it's called a mystical rectangle in my chart. What did that, can, I'm so curious,

I wanted to ask you this question and see what your perspective is on that. Yeah. Just, it's grace and

flow and sort of angelic or mystical support with the four points in the chart. So, you know,

we could talk about more detail later, but just whatever those planets and those signs are,

they're working together in this really higher vibrational manner, which can just equate as far as

you know, flow and, and doors opening and higher dimensional support for you coming in and whatever

areas and whatever houses they, they fall. Beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. I definitely filled the

vinyly supported 100%. I mean, we all are, you know, but I feel an extra level of just support and,

and um, favor really. So amazing. And I know you've worked hard, you've worked hard for it.

That's right. That's right. Yeah. So how did you even get into astrology? I mean, you don't just

stumble on to that, you know, it is. Yeah. It's a beautiful niche. Uh, I, you know, I feel like

I became sort of a secret at a very young age based on just my own very scorpionic

up childhood five planets in the eighth house. Just was a necessity to find my way out of the

hill realm, right? So I was guided onto a healing journey quite young. You know, I had my spiritual

awakening in my early 20s and music and vibration was a big part of that. So I went on to study

dance music and art therapy and, you know, I'd had years of therapy myself and really had like no

hang-ups up here, like had forgiven everybody understood whatever, but still felt very dead in my

physicality and kind of like a monkey mind. So I went on to get a degree of Buddhist psychology to

work with thoughts and, you know, learned about consciousness and astrology had always been

something I just appreciated and dabbled in, but I was always a little

afraid of my chart because I would, you know, show it to people as a young person and they'd like

gasp, like when they'd seen five planets in the eighth house of Scorpio, like, you know,

and so it kind of made me fear my life because that Scorpio archetype, as you know, is

you know, death and intensity and, you know, in my case, betrayal and

loss and it's also power and alchemy and sexuality. It's a lot of powerful thing, beautiful things.

So I actually didn't have my very first professional astrology reading until I was already

a therapist on my 30th birthday. And that day I knew that I was to be an astrologer because he

looked at my chart and he was like, wow, you are so powerful. It sounded like, wow, you're so

screwed, you know, like, so he recontextualized for me. The very thing that I had always sort of

confounded me and worried me. And just said, you know, you're going to be an agent of alchemy

for so many people. And so he became my teacher and I entered into his school, the archetype

academy where I also became a Jungian counselor. So I do like dream work and things as well.

And I, because I knew that day, you know, it's astrology such an accelerated doorway into the

soul. So if you're doing therapeutic work, which I know that you want to do, even just having

like basic understanding of astrology can accelerate the process so much. Because in a therapeutic

relationship, you're having to wait for what are they going to reveal? Getting to know each other,

creating rapport, you know, some things may be repressed. They may not even remember, right?

The chart shows everything. So that was it. And now I've never looked back. And I have a full-time

practice now. And I teach him. So yes. And we're so grateful for you. You are amazing. No, thank you.

Yeah. So how do you think? Have you seen people use astrology as kind of a bypass or

how do we navigate that, right? Where it's like, it's not, yes, the chart is speaking to us. But

how do we kind of use being present in life and not bypassing based on information from our chart?

Such a great question. You're a great interviewer. I just had to chuckle because

two astrologers in a intimate relationship is hilarious. Because you know, he'll be like,

I checked your chart. You have Mars Moon today, you know? Or I'm going to go check your chart,

you know? So we even actually had a counselor one time say that you guys are really leaning on

that a little too much. But I think it's important because you can't just be like, well, I'm being an

asshole because, you know, I have a Mars Uranus square today. And that's just the energies. I mean,

the ultimate, you know, the ancients would say the ultimate is that we transcend our chart.

Everybody has difficult aspects in their chart. And I think that that's part of our shift into the

excuse me, out of the Pisces into the Aquarian Ages, we become more of a witness to the ever changing

fluctuations of the waves of life of emotion or the influx of even intentional disturbance in our

field, which we know is also part of this battle. And so it's not just like laying down and being

like, well, this is the way it is. It's like, well, no, you work with the alchemically.

And you utilize it as a guidepost to understand the frequencies you're dancing with, but not to justify

your bad behavior. But I will say sometimes it's just nice to be like, okay, I feel like crap right

now. And you know, in two and a half weeks, it's going to be done. Like it gives us a perspective

with timing because if you were sometimes like, if you're in a Pluto transit and you're like,

oh my god, I'm dying. I'm dying. If you didn't know that that was had an expiration date,

that could be maddening. Oh my god, what's wrong with me? What is wrong with me? I thought I healed

all this. What is this? Right? I mean, loony bin. Yeah. So yeah. Thank you for clarifying that.

I have certainly utilized transits and, you know, things that are going on

astrologically as a way to kind of be like, okay, you know, like it's okay. It's okay that you're

feeling that way, right? But not so much as like the reason for, right? It's just like, oh, okay,

that makes sense, right? That that might be a little bit heavier, you know, you might be. Yeah,

because I mean, the planets are, you know, we're in a corresponding relationship. They're not

doing something to us. We're going to dance with them. So there's, there's a reflective

dimension. So it can help us to understand what we're dancing with, you know, and then become

what we're here to become is the the active awakened dreamers. Mm-hmm, right? To utilize,

like the ancients did, to utilize these codes to work with them intentionally and alchemically.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Shannon, how can we find you for people who are listening and interested in

getting a reading from you or just interested in following you in general, which, by the way,

I have, I've followed your email blog for so long and I find them so valuable. So

tell us how, how we can hide you down. Well, if you're local, just in, in case you are, yeah,

I'm outside of Austin, Texas and Wimberley. So I always love people to come for visits. I,

and then I'd say 90% of my clients are zooms. So my website is Shannonlygill.com and it's

L-E-I-G-L-G-I-L. So yeah, you can just go to my website and, and check out all my offerings there.

Love it. Oh, it's been such a pleasure getting to marry a teacher of them. Wow,

about what's going on. And all of your, your wealth of knowledge. So I just appreciate your time

so much and look forward to connecting with you in the future. It's an honor to support you.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much. May the core that binds us to one another and to source

remind you that you are never alone, always guided and always home. Until next time.