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Hey, good. How are you? Absolutely fantastic, man. Thank you for taking the time to share a

conversation with me because I truly believe that you're getting a bad rap for something that you're

doing that's supposed to be really, really good. Yeah, I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Well, the one thing that I probably we all want to know is that wow, how long has something like

this been taking place? Because I mean, the the act and, you know, the physical efforts that we put

into activating a word or to get the word out there, you know, has it always been like this? Or

is this just something that has taken place just over the past maybe let's say five years?

Oh, no, no, this is not new. I can't be given that much credit for creating the whole concept.

I think I'm probably more open about what we do. But the concept of money being playing a large role

in protest movements has not been a new thing. I mean, there were reports of things like this

in Roman and Greek times, but even in the sixties and how the government was picking sides in

the civil rights campaign, right? I mean, so this isn't like exactly a novel concept.

You bring up a very interesting point there because I have read stories about that where they

did travel from different areas of the country to come into the South to help bring that word forward.

Oh, correct. And I mean, I was referring more to saying, hey, we like Martin Luther King,

we can deal with, you know, Fred Hampton or like Malcolm X. We can't. So like picking sides

and kind of, you know, supporting one civil rights leader over another, right? So sort of

think of it as controlled opposition. Again, it's not like a novel concept. And there's

anything necessarily nefarious about it. But this idea of like, hey, every movement is something

I'm going to say is every movement is backed by extremely wealthy people, right? And powerful

interests, right? Any movement of any significance has that in common because that's why you've heard

of it, right? Like if you were, if you had no powerful people behind it, that's unlikely you

would ever see the light of day. Yeah. So then how do you feel today? Do you feel like you are

getting that bad rap like I talked about because it just seems like it just feels like that anything

that you guys are doing, we're, you know, everybody's going, ah, you know, they hired those people

to be there. They hired them. They hired them. Well, you know, I will say I'm going, I do, I'm going

on shows like yours to hopefully explain things a little bit better to the audience, right?

So to rebut the misinformation and hopefully see people can see it from my point of view.

And if they disagree with me, at least they've heard from me and understand. So I guess that's

my take on that issue. Well, I love that what you're doing because, you know, that's the one thing

that they've been really trying to get people to do is put your voice out there. But I guess my

question would be is that when you have crowds on demand, the people that you're putting out there,

did they go through let's say basically a resume check? I mean, are they really that person

or are they just just doing a job, just like going to a grocery store, just doing a job?

Well, I can speak to crowds on demand. I can't speak to the broader trend. Well, I can speculate

on the broader trend. For us, we vet everybody that we, so we actually do Zoom, FaceTime interviews,

and minimum phone calls with everybody before every event, no matter what the cause is for.

So then why is it that government fixtures and figures are sitting there saying that you guys

are the bad guys because people are reading into it wrong? I mean, what I want to do is I want to,

you know, help you correct your image in the way of, hey, here's the real transparent story here.

Well, the reality is, is that first of all, a lot of the commentary at class you could take me,

it's kind of sort of cheap commentary. And the reason is, is these are people who, some of them

make seven, eight figures giving their opinion. And in a way, they're making a classless argument,

they're saying someone who's getting a couple hundred bucks to show up at a protest, oh,

they can't possibly be sincere about their opinions. Whereas they, who make seven, eight figures,

or in the case of like a Joe Rogan, like nine figures, right? Oh, somehow for them,

it's all genuine, right? So it's out of a shitty argument that I don't buy.

See, I'd love where your heart is because at least you're putting forth the effort to get people

involved. And that's very inspiring. Well, I appreciate that. So the way that I look at it is that

we give opportunity to everybody to get engaged in the causes that they agree with, right?

So you're not going to be a very good advocate for a cause if you don't agree with the cause.

So we vet people for a few things. Number one, to make sure they agree with the cause. Number two,

to make sure that it's consistent with our principles are obviously peaceful law-abiding advocacy.

And number three, that they're committed to being respectful, persuasive, and articulate, right?

Like, so, so you asked me earlier about, oh, these people who don't seem to know what they're doing.

Like, I don't think that's effective. So if somebody is paying those people and I have no idea

if they are, then that's not very effective because there's no point in paying someone who isn't

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Crowds on demand. We are back with Adam Swart. Is there a certain protest that you would not go to?

In other words, we just had the monks that took that walk from Texas to Washington, DC. Would you

have been if they would have approached you to help crowd please? Basically just build up that

crowd. So when the monks came to your town, it wasn't just a little village. And what were the

monks like doing that for? They were doing that for peace to promote peace. And you know,

it's in that that was one of my biggest things was that it's really fantastic when people came out

to support the monks. But now there were several weeks afterwards. Where's that peace in their

heart? Did it work? Was it a good protest? I don't know. Well, something as innocuous as that is

something that you know, it would be something we consider. I'd have to look at the details right

because I don't know the exact issue that you're referring to. But the what I would say is that

in regards to the protest that we wouldn't take, they fall under a few different banners. Number one,

anything that so obviously we don't take anything that's unlawful. But I don't want to even put my

people near like demonstrators that could be unlawful. So let's just say you have a group of people

you know who are protesting. So like this icing, we didn't want to be involved at all in that

because hey, there are people who are breaking the law on structing ice agents. So even if we

add people there with signs and banners, it's so peaceful, it'd be hard for them to distinguish who

is who's who. So that would be a bad idea. I mean, generally, I also like to focus on

causes that are a little more nuanced and they're not part of the noise. So like if you're

gone about ice or like Israel, Palestine, like these are these are causes that already have a ton

of attention. You almost don't need me, right? You see what I'm saying? Like the reason to bring

in crowds on a man is because a cause isn't getting enough attention or isn't out there. So

so one misnomer about crowds on a man is that we're involved in every large cause out there that

that the people actually give us too much credit for that. We're taking on the causes. We're making

causes like we're trying to catalyze causes. We're not necessarily like out there just trying to

add to the noise of a cause that's already getting attention. Are any of the people that you

associate yourself with are the afraid of what we're doing when it comes to social media because

it seems like every time we turn around, somebody's got a video, somebody's got sound, somebody's

got something that you did, which then can really affect your resume in a real job position.

Well, again, from I can speak to crowds on a man, we don't take on causes that would

lead people to have that. See, see, you're educating me, dude. You really see how misinformed that I

am, Adam, because of the regular media. This is what the regular media is doing to the rest of us out here.

Uh, yeah. I mean, the, the media is problematic. I mean, we all know this. It's one of those things

where the funny thing is is the media is calling Congress. It's like, you know, like people

like, oh, do you like Congress is like, no, I hate these motherfuckers, right? It's like, oh,

but are you going to like your congressman? It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's a good guy, right? So

I think it's the same thing. It's like, if you're a Fox News viewer, you're like, oh, yeah,

like the liberal media is biased, but uh, you know, Laura Ingram, she talks straight, you know,

we're like, if you're MSNBC viewer, same thing. It's like, yeah, they're all the media is so sensational,

but I really love Rachel Maddo, right? So like the problem is that we all kind of agree the media

environment is problematic, but we, we, people tend to flock to the individuals that they

hear now as someone who's a political independent, I listen to everything. I listen on a daily basis

to everything from far right to far left because I want to, I want to understand the pulse of the

country, you know, and I don't have to agree with somebody to listen to them and understand their

perspective. I love what you just said. I don't have to basically agree with them to like what

they're doing. So I love that that you've got that, that ability to separate yourself in a way

that says, hey, look, we can just get together and have a conversation. Let's just do that. Let's

take that first step. So I'm very much on your side on that. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, well,

so we're causing a man to focus on really as persuasive, effective advocacy. So we're, I mean, like,

so some of the cause that we've taken on is like delete Facebook. So we've taken on big tech,

the Facebook monopoly. They actually changed their name almost immediately after our campaign

because their Facebook name became so tarnished by the idea that they're, you know, misusing

people's data. They allowed a genocide to happen and me on more allegedly, right? That was used

on there. Basically, Hey Trade was built up on their platform, right? They're run like the head

of government at Facebook for a long time. I think he's still there was a former British deputy

prime minister like what the heck? Like you have a foreign leader overseeing Facebook. Like,

is that does that make any sense? Right? So, so really highlighting these things. So we've done

stuff like that because no one else was doing it, right? We've taken on big pharma, right? We're

in big pharma and like a both insurance industry was discriminating against LGBT community. We

took on a campaign around that and within a month, that instance of alleged discrimination

ended. We've secured, you know, we've been involved in obviously multi billion dollar sort of

business dispute matters, right? So we resolve kind of difficult things and in my opinion,

we take on really good causes that otherwise easily resolvable. But the other thing that's the

misnomer about us is that we are a tool for the powerful people like, oh, you're used by the big

industries. No, the big industries big tech doesn't need us big pharma doesn't need us. Why? They

already control Congress, right? So if you're if you already have not 80% of Congress on speed,

now, what do you need us for? Right? Like the people who use us are the medium size, the smaller

businesses, the startups, the new causes right that are trying to grow and that need that don't have

a multi billion dollar infrastructure. Yes, our services are not cheap, but they are way cheaper

than building out a multi year infrastructure. See, what I love what you're doing, Adam, is the fact

that there are so many people that are sitting in their garages, their man caves inside their homes,

in their cars, they have they feel they have this voice. They just don't activate their voice.

And what I love about what you guys are doing with crowds on demand, at least you're empowering

or giving people an opportunity of, wait a second, I do have a voice. They're speaking my street.

Let me go stand with them for a little bit. Yeah, I 100% agree with that. And the reality is,

is that yes, I 100% agree with that. And actually, I kind of wanted to give your audience some

free advice. Please, because we all we all have to be advocates in our lives, right? So maybe

it's a political issue, sure. But more likely, it's a personal issue, right? Maybe your flight

is canceled and you, you know, you don't want to be stranded for three days because the flight

that they initially offer you is like a week from now, right? You know, maybe you are behind on

your rent and you don't want to be evicted. Maybe you have an insurance claim that the insurance

company doesn't want to honor, right? Like these are just things that ordinary people may deal with

on a regular basis, right? So that calls upon us to be our own advocates. So what I would say

is let me give you kind of an eat like a, it's not a sure fire thing, but this is sort of a way

to address these sorts of things, right? Number one, number one, figure out what you're after,

right? Like figure out what your objective is. Because first of all, is it getting a new flight

today? Is it okay? I want, I'll be able to get my next check from my boss in two weeks and then

I'll be able to pay my rent, right? So what is the, what is the, the objective of what you're doing?

Number two, so be clear about that because that's important. Number two, figure out who is

the power to give you that objective. So if you're behind on your rent, maybe your property

manager isn't empowered to say, okay, just pay the balance next month, right? They don't have

that authority perhaps. So maybe you have to go to the regional manager. So you have to make sure

that you're focused on persuading that person in the right way. Number three, figure out what

matters to them, right? So a lot of people start by explaining why it matters to you, right? But

why does it matter to them? So if you say, oh, I can't be, get evicted, you know, I have kids,

I have pets, whatever it's like, okay, that's why it matters to you. I understand that, right?

But then you're required, then that, that explanation relies solely on another person's humanity,

right? Where you can't expect that people have that humanity. So the, sometimes explaining

things on a more pragmatic basis. So understanding what your leverage is. So if they want to

evict you, for example, in a couple of, then why shouldn't they? Well, they have to hire a lawyer,

they have to pay the sheriff, they, you can drag out the process for a few months. So, so that's,

that might be the, the stick, right? But on the other hand, hey, I will set up a payment plan

and I will get current within the next two months. And here's the plan, right? So, so you're,

you're making it compel more compelling for them to say, grant me this extension to pay than

not, right? But you're making it on a pragmatic basis that this person might resonate with,

right? Rather than relying on them simply to take pity on you, which they may or may not do,

and more likely will not do, right? Because people, you know, are constrained by their jobs, right?

They've, they've heard every sob story under the sun, a lot of these people, right? Same with the,

like, when my own life, I fly a lot, right? For, for my job. So Mike, I get canceled all the time.

So what do I do? I, let me work you through how I do it. I first figure out what the flight is

that I want to be rebooked on, right? So I make sure there's a seat available. Then I tell the agent,

the customer agent, I figure out the customer agent, right? They can rebook me and I say, this is

the flight I want and I see it as a seat, right? So make it really easy for them to help me. And I

know what they are looking for is to be able to quickly assist and then to move on to the next

months. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Like advice for your audiences is in your own life. If you follow that

step, you'll waste, you'll save yourself a lot of wasted effort focused on basically the things

that don't have a matter. Yeah. Effectively, lawfully and safely. I love that about crowds on

demand. I mean, you really do put a lot of effort in those three things effectively, lawfully and

safely. Yes. Yes. Exactly. And those are not mutually exclusive. That's the thing that a lot of

groups don't understand is they actually, they, they, they are synonymous with one another.

Yeah. Yeah. So now, where do you come from to where you've got this powerful voice that you've

got and why is it you're not running for a public office because it seems like people once they get

that voice, that's the first thing to do is go into government. You are trying to lead the people.

Yeah. Well, I think that the biggest thing is that the structure of the governmental process

is corrupt. And it's something that we all kind of agree with. But I can come in. Let's just say

you say my heart has pure. I mean, none of our hearts are pure, but I, so I was pure as can be.

Right. Well, now, let's just say I'm running, and I'll tell you the obvious I want to run for

sheriff of San Francisco. It's my, I'm from the Bay Area originally. I've seen that San Francisco has

just really been on the decline. And even now they're trying to change some of it. But you've just

got to have a zero tolerance policy for the drug addicts, the derelinks, right, the criminals,

right. And I would, I would prosecute that with the utmost harshness. That would be my policy.

Well, okay. So I'm coming in with this, but now let's just say I run. Okay. Now I'm fundraising.

Well, some donor says, oh, well, I wish you would do this. Right. And some person who I want to

endorse me says, oh, well, I wish you do that. And now my message is totally watered down because

because I'm now making all these compromises, right. And that's the challenge of our political

system. So, and so at some by the time I've actually gone myself to be a compelling candidate,

will then the part that I that's actually compelling is gone.

How does somebody get involved with what you're doing? Are we talking about this is just for

college students? Or are we talking about every age group? Well, in fact, it's primarily geared

towards people who aren't because the my my goal is to give a diverse protest audience. So yes,

that we are students, that includes your calories. But one thing that you have a challenge of is

that when I look at all these protests out there, sometimes it's mostly called students in

retirees, right? Why? Because they have the lowest opportunity costs to protest, right?

College student doesn't have kids for the most part, right? A retiree doesn't have a job. So

they can go out protest whenever they want. And they should if they want to do that, right? But

what about someone who's working an hourly wage job? Like, how often do you see a janitor,

a maid or a fast-food worker out at a protest? Especially those who have kids, right? Never. Why?

Because the opportunity costs is bigger. You've got to have child care for your kid. That's expensive.

You've got to have, then you've got to take unpaid time off of the work, right? That's expensive.

So the reality is is that I'm looking, obviously, I'm looking to give anybody the opportunity to

demonstrate, of course, but particularly the groups that are most literally represented

in current demonstrations, because I like to say Cuddon Bank often gives a voice to the

silent majority. God, I love where your heart is. You have opened up my eyes to a completely

different thing because I'm going to tell you Adam, I can't be the only one who is sad here and

judged your book by its cover, not knowing what's on the inside. Well, and I appreciate that.

The reality is that's a lot of what people do. So as I said at the start, part of the reason why

I'm on your show and do other media is so that people can explain that. I don't expect people

to agree with everything I say, just like I don't agree with most other people on whatever they're

saying. But sometimes you have to kind of understand the broader picture of it because people

just believe what they glance at. And I think there is some part of people that is just like

horristically, they're like, oh, paying protesters bad. But then when they think about it, it's like,

oh, actually, this helps give attention to lesser known causes. This helps give people the

opportunity to go out and protest. When you actually think about it, it's like, and actually

crowds want to mend everything they do is legal, safe, effective. And when they understand some

of the efforts that we've been behind, they can also understand, okay, this is not what I may have

thought it was. We're not out there, what certain people are saying, there's all this misinformation

online. But instead of just promoting misinformation, I have dispatched my person who handles my

media to say, get me out there and let me explain what I do, right? So like so many people are like

expressed revulsion with misinformation online, but they don't take initiative to actually

rebut it. That's what I'm doing right here. Wow. Where can people go to find out more about you

Adam? Because like I said, I love where your heart is.

WWW dot crowds on demand dot com or on Twitter at CEO Adam Swart. That's CEO and then my name.

You got to come back here many more times in the future. This can't be a one day thing, dude,

because I mean, what's going on in the world today and behind the scenes in front of the scenes

wherever we need people like yourself to energize us to get that ball bouncing.

I appreciate that and I really enjoy this conversation and I'm happy to come back anytime.

Will you be brilliant today, okay, sir? Thank you. You have a good one.

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