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After a chaotic weekend at the famed "Paperclip" of Martinsville Raceway, Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the studio for more Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to unpack everything that unfolded:
- Dale’s latest on trading cards and die-casts
- NASCAR’s 2026 Hall of Fame Inductees
- Lee Pulliam misses a shift late in the O’Reilly race
- Rajah Caruth and Jesse Love’s on-track dust-up
- Bubba Wallace’s miscalculation leads to a big pile-up on Sunday
- Race winner Chase Elliott joins the show
- Does NASCAR have too many laps under caution?
- A reaction to the CARS Tour race at Wake County Speedway
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- Advice for Cleetus at Rockingham this weekend
- The green flag is on display in the studio
- Dale’s favorite type of beer
- Other professional wrestler guests for the Download
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This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half.
I don't know if we've ever argued.
Does that piss you off over the weekend or?
I'm still sour to know what the best man at your wedding.
Who is your best man, Dale?
PJ.
You don't need a cool best for that race.
What are you thinking?
Get him, DJ.
Hellboy is starting to show.
All right then.
Hey everybody, it's Dale Junior back again for another episode of the Dale Junior Download.
It's Tuesday and I'm here with my co-host, DJ Majors.
Oh, hey.
If this intro sucks, it's because we've had to do it a couple times.
Or three.
Because Travis beckoned around and hitting her own buttons and stuff.
Y'all know Travis.
Hall of Fame producer.
That's right.
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And now we have the show started.
Do we have the record button mashed?
Yep.
All right.
Mashed.
A lot of people think mashed is a funny word.
It is.
Yeah, pressed or whatever.
I don't know what the
All the time you use it is with mashed potatoes.
Yeah.
It's really.
I mean, what are you?
Mashing a button.
Yeah.
I know some people.
I say when I started when I was talking,
you know, me and Amy were dating early.
And I said, man, you got to mash it.
She's like, what?
She was a little taken aback.
I'm like, all right.
I think it's perfectly fine word.
I do too.
I've used it a lot in my life.
But it's it's not universal.
I don't think.
Hey, TJ, I got you a gift.
Hey, how's it going?
I got you a gift, how?
So.
I've been going through some boxes of
of cards.
Got some paninis here.
And football stuff.
And I've all of the buffalo bills cards.
I put in a little stack, man.
Here they are.
That was yours.
Thank you.
You got it.
There's one.
There's one Allen.
That's pretty good.
That one on the top.
Nothing special though.
I didn't give you any.
I've been looking for this.
Sean McDermott.
Yep.
I figured you could.
You could use a show.
You won't see him in that uniform next year.
No, no, probably not.
Anyhow, I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Yeah, and I got a box to
Panini gave to me.
2025 NASCAR trading cards.
Panini prism.
12 cars per pack.
Yeah, we're going to might rip into this
before the end of the show and see what you got.
See who pulls what.
I might let everybody in here can pull.
Yeah, see what we get.
Back out.
See what's going on.
Minus Travis.
I've been going on.
I've been going on eBay and
sniping some of the older stuff.
I like to.
I've opened some new boxes.
And I've opened, you know, a lot of old boxes.
When I say old, I'm talking about junk wax
from like the late 80s.
Yeah.
And you can find like
some of the retail boxes and stuff from
from the late 80s for 15 bucks, 20 bucks.
And so I bought.
I've been buying a bunch of those.
I'm bringing them in here.
We'll rip them up.
Let's do it.
See if we can find some Bo Jackson's.
Bo Jackson be a good card.
Bo Jackson, King Griffith Jr.
That was how they can say go.
There was a lot of very bonds.
A lot of, you know, a lot of decent cards.
Apparently, I think the Griffith card was like a hot item.
There's a lot of decent cards, even in the junk wax area.
And you had, you had Michael Jordan
in some of the upper deck stuff in the 90, 91, 94,
and 94 upper deck stuff.
Yeah.
If you pulled a Griffith or a Jordan, you did good.
And Jordan very limited a lot of the things
that they could use as name on and stuff.
So it's even harder.
It's cards are pretty, his cards are pretty valuable.
I'm stipping a few boxes.
I'll bring them on here.
And we need a new segment.
I like, I was going to say that I've opened,
you know, if you threw down in front of me
and I know people are not going to agree with this at all.
But I'm always on the wrong end of things.
If you threw down in front of me like a 1989 tops
or a 91 tops, a box of those.
And then a brand new box of like 20, 25,
you know, Penini or tops.
I would probably have more fun opening the old box.
And it's more likely because I recognize all those names.
It's the style.
Yeah.
No, the new box would be kind of,
because the new cards that are coming out are bad.
So when, when I open all this, all this new
even on the football side, I mean, I recognize a lot of the football players
because I watch NFL.
I don't watch a ton of major league baseball.
So I only know like Aaron Judge and Freeman and a few.
Yeah.
So I don't know any of the new hot rookies coming in
to, uh, to the major league baseball.
And even on the NFL side, there's some rookies that I'm like,
damn, he's good.
His card's good.
Really?
I've never heard of this guy.
Like Jackson, I know who Jackson Dart is, right?
You do too.
I watch him, I watch him play a lot last year with a Giants.
He had some injury issues, got a couple of concussions.
He played good though.
But his cards are hot right now.
And I'm like, I don't know, you know, he's not,
let me see what you can do with another year before.
Yeah, he's got, he's okay.
Well, he's in the news for dating.
Well, his cards are hot, not because of who's dating.
I don't know, my help.
No, I don't think so.
That, you know, anyway, I, um, it's a lot of, it's more work.
Like, looking the card, looking the new cards up and trying to figure out what's worth,
what I can open up a pack of early 90s or late 80s baseball.
And I can tell you about the price or the value of each card.
Sure.
You don't have to look it up.
But there's a couple of cool apps.
They got apps on your phone.
You can actually scan the card with your camera quickly.
It's like, this is the card.
That's what it's worth.
Done.
It struggles with some of the variants, uh, you know,
the variant cards.
It does, yeah.
And it struggles with the reflective cards, which all of them are these days,
right?
All of them are chrome.
Oh, yeah.
And there are your phones that don't do that very well.
A man, we're still in this card game.
Still, I can't tell.
Oh, it's been all day yesterday.
Um, sniping old school boxes.
And I got a couple of die casts lately.
One die cast that I secured off of eBay is the die cast of Ray Elder.
Yeah, we talked about.
Yeah, nice.
Yeah, he's on the ballot.
They announced announced the ballot.
I heard.
Kevin Harvick is on the ballot deep.
I think Kevin Harvick is a lock.
Yeah.
Lock it.
Right.
Lock it in.
Absolutely.
All right, you're locking Kevin in.
Don't even vote him.
Why no?
So Kevin, we were on the show the other day talking about how the new guys that come in on the ballot
jump right to the front of the line.
Um, happened with me, happened, happened with, you know, a lot.
I mean, and Harvick's a lock.
He's going in.
But he, but I've had fans telling me that he can, he can wait.
Other people have waited long.
Like, yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
Yeah, I'll tell you this.
I, they shouldn't have put me in when they did.
I think I could have waited.
I would have preferred to have waited.
Uh, and the Ray elders, uh, the Randy Dortons.
I'm just looking at this list.
Um, you know, all those guys that were here a long time ago,
they should get in.
But got, you know, a guy like me pops onto the damn ballot
and goes right to the front of the line.
It's, it's like, you know, it's like, uh, when you're going,
you know, when you're checking in to get your flight,
getting your flight ticket or whatever you're checking your luggage,
your bagging, you know, getting your luggage tag.
You got to wait your turn.
Um, I understand your reason.
Now, there are the, uh, there are the, uh, the, the one guy,
there are the Jimmy Johnson's.
There are the, the Dale Earn Hearts and the Richard Petty's that,
you don't wake, you don't make them wait.
Guys that have won, you know, multiple championships.
Like Kyle Busch, right?
When he's, when he's, he's a, he's going in.
Yeah, we, we, we put him in right away.
Yeah. Um, but there's a few people and I would say I would be comfortable
saying and then I'm one of them that could have, I'm healthy.
I'm young.
Feel young.
You know, I get, I get your reason.
But it's for me, it's like, then maybe there's a flaw in like how
that they needed like to get rid of some of the old, to get the older people in,
like figure out a way for voting for a few years where it's more baseball style
where it's 75% like, I don't know, I don't know how you do this.
I don't know how you do it.
But got Randy LaJoy to time.
NASCAR, O'Reilly Auto Parts Series champion.
He was also the 1985 NASCAR tour, North tour champion.
So he's got more than just those two.
And you know what?
Randy LaJoy reminds me of, you know who he reminds me of?
Who?
Justin Algar.
Oh man.
And Randy's on there.
Man, I'm telling you, one more championship, I think Justin finds his way onto the ballot.
Can we not use Justin's name?
And I feel so bad that he's been the, like, Justin was very thankful to be recognized
and to be considered Hall of Fame worthy.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't think that's bad.
Okay.
No, it's not a bad conversation to be.
What a compliment.
No, I know.
But like, I didn't know if he took it like before his race, he's being cast.
I just know that on the other side of that glass right there, there were a few people
that you probably be glad you didn't run into in the last few days.
So there's a beer toast for Justin's previous when not this past weekend.
Thanks for reminding me.
Today.
Am I invited to that?
Oh, are you invited?
I think you should speak.
Okay.
I might actually call you.
What would you say?
I don't know.
I might actually call you on up front.
So man, you got a few words for our guy Justin here.
That'd be funny.
I won't do that, Travis.
Please come to the toast.
All right.
I will.
Yeah.
But I'm thrilled to see Ray Elder on there.
So Ray Elder is a six time
NASCAR Winston West champion.
He is a six time NASCAR Winston West champion.
Now, I'm looking on the NASCAR website at the modern era ballot and next to Ray Elder's name,
it says six time Arkham Minard series West champion.
That is absolutely incorrect.
That is that is a misleading information.
It is downgrades it.
It absolutely downgrades it.
When Ray Elder was racing in the 70s,
it was the NASCAR Winston West championship.
And they were cup cars.
He bought cars from Richard Petty.
And when the NASCAR Cup series would come out to Ontario or Riverside,
Ray Elder and the other West competitors would race in that race with the cup cars.
It was a cup series.
It was a cup level series one.
And he won six championships in that series to call it.
The Arkham Minard series West is a huge disgrace.
And he won that.
He won against him.
Guys a couple of times.
This is no disrespect to the Arkham series.
But back in the 70s, NASCAR didn't even own Arkham.
Oh, it was his own deal for sure.
Oh, I mean, it wasn't even the NASCAR own property.
Ray Elder was basically the West Cup series champion.
I think they need to, I get when you're you pay to be the sponsor,
but I think we need to leave it as whatever it was when they want it.
Yeah, because this is so confusing and misleading.
It is, yeah, that should say Winston West.
And now even, I mean, because I'm afraid,
this heart's not only Ray's this this this this hurts Ray's reputation,
you know, to fans because they they read it and go, oh, he's Arkham champion.
Oh, but he wasn't.
He was a cup series champion on the cup series.
NASCAR had two divisions.
They had they had the regular cup, which was on the East Coast.
And then they had a West Cup West West Coast cup series.
They were cup cars.
And of course, you know, the the the competition was a little thinner for sure.
No question.
But when when we would go out to Riverside and run and Ray would enter the race,
he won it twice.
He won Riverside twice.
Beat Richard Paddy, Kell Yarborough, David Pearson.
Beat him big names.
Yeah.
And he came to Daytona running to top five in Daytona at the 500 running running to top five in the
in the in the duels.
I mean, he would come out to Daytona for the 500 and hang in there.
But I think, yeah, I was looking at this list.
Let's look at it, TJ.
Let's look at it, Travis.
You got Kevin Harvick, who is a sure thing.
All right, got a couple of new names.
I think relatively new name Ernie Elliott,
but who was part of the Elliott crew when when Bill was kicking ass.
Oh, yeah.
Cup series winning crew chief victories in the Daytona 500.
Two of those two Southern 500s as well.
You had Dan Elliott, who was part of that crew as well.
There was Ernie, Dan and Bill brothers, man.
They were they were dominant.
They were Randy LaJoy.
Jack Sprags been there three time Christmas truck series champion.
I mentioned Ray Elder, Randy Dorton, who is an engine builder.
Want a ton of championships.
Tons of wins.
And Jeff Burton, 21 time cup series winner, including Southern 500s, Coca-cola,
six hundred six cup wins.
A lot of wins.
A lot of wins.
Hard to win cup races.
Tim Brewer, who was a badass crew chief, two time championship crew chief in the
cup series, Neil Bonnet.
Everybody knows Neil 18 time cup series winner.
He won consecutive Coke six hundred wins.
And then Greg Biffle, who was a crash in truck series champion in 2000,
O'Reilly auto parts series champion as well, 2002.
How many wins is Biffle having the cup series?
Do you know?
I think it's 16, I don't know why.
And it's a lot of ways too, man.
I was thinking about this the other night.
We got team, like there's not a lot of drivers that I could sit there in this.
I'm surprised that they didn't put that in the list.
That's another, yeah.
Like they're not helping.
Yeah, you got Neil Bonnet 18 time winner.
And then you got a 19 time winner.
They don't even mention.
Yeah, like 19 wins is a lot.
Yeah, I know they got to keep it short.
But listen,
there's a there's a everybody in this list.
Everybody in this list in my opinion is a Hall of Fame.
Is a Hall of Famer.
They are.
It's strange, ain't it?
Because we have a ballot full of guys that I think we all would be
perfectly comfortable letting into the Hall.
But we only pick two off of this particular ballot.
I'm going to pick Kevin Harvick and Ray Elder.
But I struggle not to pick Jeff Burton.
I mean, I think Jeff Burton belongs in there.
Not only because Jeff Burton has one races in the cup series
and done a lot of great things,
but he's been an incredible broadcaster for us for over a decade.
He's stuck around.
And he's done a lot of things.
He does so many things with the driver council and he's just he plays a lot of
different roles.
Where's a lot of different hats cares about the sport.
So he works behind the scenes with safety innovation and all types of things.
He was very dedicated to to moving safety forward.
You know, we had a we had a big push for safety after that passed away.
And we lost Adam Petty and a few other drivers.
There was a big push with safer barriers and all that stuff.
Well, once we kind of got to a certain extent,
not that not that people quit trying, but
you know, the safety quest, the quest for safety sort of
seemed almost complete.
Well, Jeff continued to push it forward,
knowing that we continue to further that.
And I don't know, man.
I think Jeff Burton will get a ton of votes is what I'm going to say.
I just feel like Ray Elder should have been in years ago because he is a six-time champion
in the cup series on in what was the West's cup series.
And doing those things in the 70s in an area in the country, think about this, okay?
In the 1970s, NASCAR in general was a very southeastern
limited sport.
Not a lot of, didn't get a lot of credibility, didn't get a lot of respect,
didn't get a lot of attention from the nation as a whole outside of the southeast.
But, you know, when we decided to push east or west of the Mississippi,
when we decided to push farther west of the Mississippi and have, you know,
build Fontana and go out and try to try to be successful with Texas Motor Speedway.
I know we had Texas World in the in the 70s and 80s and all kind of those were
those were relatively successful quests, but they failed ultimately.
Ontario failed, Riverside went away.
Ray Elder was the guy that was out there digging the ditch.
And so when we came out there to finally really push, push, push west and make this a more
national sport, it was successful on, on the work that Ray Elder and others had done.
We're, you know, I love that phrase that we're standing on the shoulders of giants.
Ray Elder's one of those guys were standing on his shoulders because of the efforts and work
that they did. They did, they're just racing. They didn't know what they were, you know,
they didn't know what the foundation that they were building for NASCAR, but they were just out
there racing. And he's not just a, you know, he's a six-time champion in a property that NASCAR
has owned forever. He is not a six-time ARCA minority's champion. He is not. That is incorrect.
But I just got to say that. I need that to be a video. All right. Can we flag that?
Yes. I appreciate that. Yeah. I was voting Neil and I would vote Neil and Ray.
Neil and Ray, you're not going to put Kevin in. He's going to get in. Well, he's got you get
too. I know. That's why I said I will put Neil and Ray in now because as time goes on,
I feel like it fades more. I know, dude, but I think Kevin, Kevin's a lock.
But if we keep pushing these other guys away, it's going to be. I don't understand your,
I don't understand your, what am I trying to say? There's always going to be somebody on this list
that's newer and has, you know what I mean? There's always going to be somebody that comes onto
this list. But we can't be, so you're going to cast a vote for the other two guys even though you
know Kevin's going in. I know he's going to go in because I feel like, so who goes in next year?
It's coming out again next year because we can say someone else like. No, no, no. I'm just,
let's listen. I'm saying the more the time goes on, the more we forget about Ray,
the more we forget about, I agree. But I know Ray left the ballot and me and several other people
in the room got him back on the ballot, but because I mean, Jamie's a six time champion. Yeah.
In what amount of two in the 70s, the cup series in the West. Well, that's what I mean. We're going
to. I agree. He belongs in the Hall of Fame in my opinion. Now it might not be everyone's opinion.
It's easier to push him away than Harvick. You can't look at Harvick and be like,
I know, but Kevin's going to get the vote. So I'm going to cast my vote for Kevin because he's
in here. I'm not going to waste a vote on somebody. I'm going to pick two guys that I think
should be in there and Kevin's one of them. So why would you vote if you know? All right,
Kevin's going in. So I'm going to put two other names down because I feel like I want to
understand because I feel like down the road. Like if you put, if you take, um, you start
eliminating some of the guys that you know, we're going to be in like there. If you feel like
should be in, if you think Kevin's going in, why don't you put your vote for him?
Because I still feel like it's so fresh and new and there's guys that have been doing this
for a long time that are, they're losing their opportunity here. And I feel like, but you're not
going to change the Kevin vote, but it might not like, I feel like there's less Hall of Famers
coming up here in the next handful of years. I mean, there's way more. Well, I mean,
recent guys like every year, I think for the next six years, there's going to be a lock,
a new lock like Truex's next, they need to delay how long before you can get in. I think,
I think that's why I kind of mean. And if those what five years, I think it's something like
that for us, isn't it for something like that? It's maybe. But I mean, that's, that's a,
worthy conversation. But I'm asking, I wonder, I often wonder when I'm sitting in the room with
other people voting, they're, they're the method to their madness, right? And you have a unique
opinion that I'm not going to put a vote for Kevin because he's locked in. I think he gets in.
So I'm going to put a vote for two other guys that I think belong in there. And you're hoping that
both of those votes one way or another get one of those, one of those guys in, right? Yeah, probably.
But you're, if what if everyone had that idea and then Kevin doesn't get in, who we all believe,
you included is a lock. I mean, Kevin's going to get in. I know. But if everybody applied your
plan, then he doesn't ever get the vote. Well, I mean, he's not like he's going off the ballot.
He'll get the night. He'll get a chance again. And again, and again, he shouldn't have to wait.
He shouldn't have to wait for a lot of career. I mean, that would, that would be a big mistake. I
think if the, if he didn't get voted in this round, I think it's a misstep, right? Yeah. I mean,
it, uh, yeah, I wish there was a way that you could, I wonder how, I wonder how our listeners would
vote, right? Cause I mean, there's, if you're given that opportunity, right? You're going to,
you're going to cast your vote for two of these drivers to, or two of these individuals,
and they're not all drivers. It'd be fun to, to see what other people's mentality toward it
is, right? Cause everybody, um, everybody thinks differently, right? You have your approach,
which I'm not saying is wrong. Uh, everybody has a different approach. We're seeing a lot of, uh,
bifold, bonnet, um, harvick, harvick, harvick. I don't think TJ stands on making harvick way is,
he's not making him wait. I hear TJ don't get this wrong. Travis, you don't, you don't
had a rough week. I think what TJ is saying is he believes that harvick is going in. Absolutely.
So he's going to put two other names. Yeah. I think, but TJ, there's a lot of people we posted
something on, uh, during most Twitter account yesterday, ask people who their picks would be
and there's more people that you would think that are saying, I'm okay voting someone else other
than harvick. You're messing up. Harvick's going in. I'm not, let's not agree with you. I don't
even want to have this debate. I'm just saying, I don't think TJ is out on. He's not saying what
you're saying. That's what I'm trying to tell you. TJ said he believes that harvick is going in.
So he's, if given the chance to vote, he would put two other names that he thinks should also go
in. He's not voting against harvick. He's just, yeah, I feel like harvick's a lot for sure. He thinks
the rest of the people in the room are going to put harvick in. So he's going to put two other names
and hope that one of those lands. Okay. That's what he's saying. Am I right?
Yeah. I mean, I think harvick's a lock. He thinks he thinks you're saying harvick should
wait. Well, I know what he's, I get what he's saying. Like, like, like,
any, I'm trying to protect you Travis. You don't need two rough weeks in a row.
Well, you're not like, I know what you're saying. Like, yes, you're kind of both things.
We're split hairs here. Yeah, like, I don't, I don't need the, I want to be completely
freaking clear on what's being said. They just doesn't want to be attached to my name.
Harvick is absolutely a lock. He needs to be a lock. I mean, absolutely.
Looking at this social media post that dirty, my media had put in up a lot of harvicks, a lot of
harvicks. The other names that we're seeing are Biffle, Jeff Burton, Dorton. I mean, bonnet.
You got a lot of dang names there. It's, it's really going to be a toss up, I think, for the
second. That's the consensus, I think is who knows who the second one is. That's right.
That'll be a big surprise. I believe that they all deserve it. Yeah, there's a lot of great names
in that list, man. I would love to see Jeff Burton get in because I love what Jeff has done
with his time outside the race car. And I believe that he's impacted the sport positively and
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crew chiefs and stuff and stuff like that. They don't get as much recognition sometimes because
they're not, you know, they didn't get. Yeah. But well, we're going to we're going to talk about
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We had the, let's get to the extended, extended series,
or the O'Reilly series race, right? Let's get into that. It's that good draft. You good with
that? Love it. Let's get into it. Tomorrow's guest for the Dale Jr. Download will be Lee Pulliam.
We're going to learn more about Lee. Lee was racing for junior merge sports and the number nine
car this weekend. Had a really good race, missed a shift or made a mistake on a restart and piled
up a ton of race cars on the front straightaway. He was super embarrassed about that. It took
our very own Carson Quoppel out of the race entirely, which was a disappointment. But we'll talk
about that with Lee tomorrow. Overall, though, just that race played out, aside from the big pile
up on the front straightaway, that race played out very, very cleanly comparable to most.
Mad. Most of the Martinsville races. You know, there's a lot of Martinsville races that are
complete shows. And speaking of shows, the car store had a bit of a one, which we'll talk about
a little bit later in the show. I know I'm not, hey, we're not, we can take it just as well as we
can dish it out. And we took it on the chin this week with the car store. But
usually the races at the Martinsville for a rally are wild and rough and ugly at the end.
This one outside of that big mistake with the restart where Lee tore the field up.
It was, it was, it was the, it was the respectable or the expected amount of rough.
Yeah, there was rough driving, but not like, okay, you bought me. I'm going to go destroy you.
Not nobody like Austin. Did you talk to your drivers about making sure they're not the one
doing it? Because we started that conversation at the beginning of the year. I said, look,
this new points deal is going to catch a lot of guys off guard. They're going to, they're
going to continue to race the way they have been for the last couple of years where they take all
the chances going for wins, wins, wins. And they are willing to throw away races because winning
matters. And now that's not the case anymore. Winning is good. But finishing and getting points
also and doing well throughout the entire season race after race after race is very important.
It felt like the drivers understood that. It seemed like that maybe that had a bit of an
influence on the race. This year's been better. That's my hope is that the drivers were like,
oh, I've got to get to the finish line here. We can't, you know, we can't run. I mean,
mine, there was a couple of races earlier this year where there was some run-ins, but I think
overall the drivers at JRM have been much better working with each other and better teammates.
Yep. Yeah, it was a, it was a good, good race. Different strategies played out at 30 to go caution
when the first stage separated it out. Yeah. Guys that didn't have track vision pit,
it's like what are the front? Yeah. So that made it interesting. Yeah. I mean, that's how Lee,
Lee got his track position like that and was doing a great job maintaining it. Yeah.
So yeah, Lee, Lee missed a shift. He was going, he was going from second to third and made a mistake.
And was it twice? Well, the first time he got into the chip, I think you get a neutral or something
and something happened there because he definitely checked out. Yeah. I mean, the big wreck. Yeah,
he obviously, that one, that one was big. Yeah, there was one before where he was on the bottom
row. He just spun to tires on that one and they get a good launch, but there we go. Yeah,
there you are. He destroyed. I know. Mashed-in hood. What's this, what's this Austin Green comment? Did
you not see it? I never saw it. I never saw it either until now. Where'd you see this? I don't
want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to go after Austin Green unless I
know what's going on here. I mean, I understand Austin's frustration. He was having a good run,
so it's understandable that he was pretty frustrated. Yeah. It just happens, man. Yeah. I do agree with,
I did see a tweet from Joel Edmunds that said, if this was, if he was in Jordan Anderson's car,
what I'll be hammering Lee. Yeah. Which is probably true. If he did that in a different car.
I must be biased, because I, I mean, we would be saying, yeah, we would be hammering him. I
don't know. I mean, I'm we're hammering him here. We're saying he knows he's up. It's all right
there in front of us. There's no denying it. There's no hiding from it. I don't know what else we
would do to Lee. I just think people brush it off quicker because he's in a junior emergency car.
Absolutely. Okay. Look, I would say this, if I'm a driver and a guy misses a shift,
I go over to his car and I say, hey, but what was that? And maybe I offer him some advice
about what I do to try not to miss shifts. I'm not going to go out and publicly go, damn it,
dummy, Mr. Schiff, because I might be the dummy next week that misses a shift. I believe in
that. I believe that, you know, that thing's that karma thing. So, and I mean, Austin Green is a
hell of a race car driver. He's doing a lot in this. He does a lot with little. He's doing a lot
in this car. He's impressing people. And I do think I would walk that back just a little bit.
We also do have to remember that because I think Austin Green don't have any business talking about
Lee Pollyham, where if you line the statistics up in the accomplishments.
Oh, the leads list of accomplishments. Yeah. Ridiculous. What are we? What are we doing?
Can we give the drivers a little grace to the how quickly after the wreck was this interview that
like, I think you're heated, but you gotta remember this guy. I mean, he's racing. He's racing for
his job. Yeah. So is Lee. Lee's trying to find an opportunity to turn this into a little,
a little mini career at 37 years old, but he's not a guy who didn't really try. I mean,
that's not the reason my office yesterday asking me how in the hell can I get more opportunities?
What do I need to do? That's not how this was portrayed all before. It was a one off one time
you're in this opportunity. Only reason why I'm just trying. Look, we only said this is a one off
one off because we didn't want Lee to think, damn, dude, I'm a, I'm a poor mind tire existence
into this and man, it might present opportunity. I didn't want him to set himself up for
fucking rest of disappointment. I mean, I get that. If nothing else happens and you know why
went to richman many, many years ago with Josh Barry and that yellow and blue 88 and lead laps
and ran up front and finishing to top five and not one motherfucker called us the next week saying,
hey, because Josh come drive my truck. Hey, can Josh come drive our extended car? Hey, we want
to sponsor Josh in your car. Nobody. Now Josh eventually panned out. We kept working. We kept
chiseling away at it. He did drive some truck races for some different people. But it was
disappointing. And after all of that, it was disappointing that it didn't matter. And so I knew
that Lee doesn't. So I'm going into it going. I Lee, Lee, this is just, you know, let's just focus
on this. Don't give up everything you got going on back home. Don't give up your late model program.
You got running. He's got a great deal. Don't throw away all the livelihood that's happening in
your life. But I just, you know, and I get it. Austin greens a great kid. I love his family.
I think Austin green deserves this opportunity to further himself. And I think he's good enough.
But I take exception to the comment because Lee is a multi time track champion, national champion,
you know, martin'sville 300 winner. He's done all. And while that was very embarrassing and
to see all this cars destroyed on the front straightaway, is this very first rally race?
And he's just, you know, running up trying to win the race.
Yeah, I don't mean I don't, I don't really hold this against Austin.
No, because he's. Look, I'm maybe I'm absolutely biased. Well, you're definitely biased.
Yeah, I'm biased. I get it. I'm biased. I mean, I'm still pissed off. I'm kind of Austin
green size. What do you tell? Like, if I'm Austin green, I probably say the same thing. I probably
do. All right. I probably do. I'll just I will say though, like from the other side, though,
I hate being biased. I hate it because I try really hard not to be like from the other side.
Like, you know, we got like it takes Carson out of the race, which kind of sucks because we're
that's like, I know your driver and the fuck I'm sitting on the pit box watching Carson,
who I want to win so bad. I know. Yeah. Well, the destroyer. He's out. And I've got to get on
the radio to lean. Go shake it off, man. Keep digging. Keep going. Don't let that bother you.
You know how hard it is to say to have those two things going on inside your
****. Yeah, at the same time, this is not wearing hats. Not on me missing the wrong way.
You don't really give a **** what happens to Lee. You're worried about the one car. You want the
one car to win. You're working your ass. I don't want to lose car to get. I don't want to get
destroyed. But I mean, I'm just saying you don't care about the rest of Lee's day. You're
wanting that one car to win. Like I've got five of them out there. I'm being ripped into
pieces. I love it. I love it. You got the seven just driving through the field. He's dominating.
You're trying to tell Lee, hey man, uh, you really ain't got a **** shot at this. Just kind of
get her home here. Let's get a tough five and be happy about it. Nobody's going to beat the
seven today. But Lee believes in his heart. If I get, you know, if I do this just right, I can hold
them off. You know, and then you got the seven with the radiator or not or the one with the radiator
knocked out of it. Yeah. Who's, you know, with Rodney. Childers, uh, literal legend on the
pitbot. Yeah. You got Roger going at Jesse. Yeah, you got Roger. I get turned around
in the corner off of Brent Cruz. You even got Brent Cruz here. You got Jesse. Love and Roger.
I bring what's Cruz doing? Well, they're I love and just love Brent Cruz of pals. So he's fighting
his fights for him. He's fighting his fights for him. I suppose. And Jesse, I, I went back and
washed the race. Me and Carson back and washed whole race. Jesse was a little rough on some guys
early too. Jesse doesn't realize there's, here's the thing about Jesse. Jesse drives the way he doesn't
like to get driven. Exactly. But I mean, and I, I mean, I love Jesse. He's great. I like Jesse too.
And I don't want it to be, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to give him a wrong idea. But
yeah, dude. And honestly, Jesse races hard and there's nothing wrong with it. But when it comes back
around, he don't like it. And especially Marsville, like, damn, you're supposed to get run into. What's
I would go to Martinsville. And I won't just seeing everybody to hear this. I would go to Martinsville
looking forward to getting run into. We go to all these other race tracks. When I was driving,
we had steel bodies, right? You go to, you go to, you go to Kansas and Chicago and road courses and
all these tracks, you can't touch no body. If you barely been the quarter panel, you're
yeah, you couldn't touch nothing. So I couldn't wait to go to Martinsville and I'm like, please
fucking door me. Somebody put some donuts on this. Let's go. That explains a lot. Yes. I mean,
we get hunter laps in the race and let's hard come on the radio and go, dude, you got 400 laps to
go. Can we save some race car? Because I'd have both sides lit up like flood the sheet metal
market here. I feel alive. I loved it. And when a guy came, when a guy got loose under me and
did knock me, you know, hit me in the left side door, you know, it was, it's what I went to Martinsville
to expect at the time. It did not make you happy. Yeah, but I mean, you want it. No, I know. You're
looking forward to grinding your teeth. You're looking forward to being the guy. You're looking forward
to dirtying the right side up, not the left side. But yeah, but I mean, you know, are you looking
forward? You want to get hit first? So then it gives you the top freedom to go back. Adam,
I just went to those races going, I'm ready to trade some sheet metal. I'm not going to not,
I'm not going to spin a guy out. I'm not going to you know, ruin some ice day. But if I knock your
at, if I run into the inside of your car, take it like a man. Let's go. You know, you want to
give it back to me in the next corner? Fine. But it's a, you know, it's I for an eye. Don't be,
don't be a idiot. And take me out. I'm not going to take you out now. I don't want it to escalate.
That's when it gets carried away. I don't need to escalate. But do I want to hit? Do I want to hit?
Do I want to trade bumpers? Do I want to get out of my car and see the story of the race
written all over the sheet metal? Yes. Yes, I do. And I want it on both sides. It was fun.
And now these guys get all bent out of shape when somebody gives them a little doughnut off the
corner. Yeah, honestly, I didn't really see a lot. I mean, Raj definitely sent Jesse up the track
one time. But listen, I told Raj at the end of the day that he should have handled that better.
He knows he should have. And I loved how him and Jesse love hashed it out. They talked it out.
They got away from the crew chiefs and handled it, right? Good deal. I told Raj, I said, man,
you know, we talk. This is this is what we talked about at the start of the season. Let's not go,
let's not go into these races and throw away chunks of points over in emotion, right? And so
that's kind of what Raj did is he let it get the best of him. And he got over his skis a
little bit in the last couple of corners. And he ended up getting himself spun out. And here's
here's a drive down into turn three. Yeah, wait, it's way over his head. That's too much.
It is. He's way over his head. The two, I would be absolutely furious because the two is now
three wide. The two is losing several spots. How do you handle Brent Cruz if you're Raj? I know.
You don't mean like how do you handle that? What do you mean? Like the guy? How do you handle Brent
Cruz? If you're I think you got to go have a conversation about that because that's pretty cheap.
Well, I mean Brent Cruz is Brent Cruz. I know what Brent Cruz saw. He said he just saw
Raj, I do that to the two in the corner before. And I've seen this. I've actually maybe done this.
You'll see a driver do something foolish. And that's what Raj, I did going down into turn three.
He got in there too hot way up the racetrack. You see that and you go. That's like a free pass
to do something, you know, do something. Agreed just to that driver. You're like, hey, man,
if you're going to be a wild man, you better be able to take it. Right. And so I think Brent went
down in the corner and went, I just seen what you did. So how about how you like this? You know,
how you like, how's this? He's one up to it. He did. I don't know if he meant to spin the 88 around.
He probably hoped maybe he just knocks the 88 up the track and he's just grabbing another spot
because he watched the 88 knock somebody up the track the lap before or the corner before.
So I mean, that's just that's the mentality. I think a driver has, and you're at the end of the race.
This has been a long race. You've seen a lot of you've been in a lot of like you're up to here
with all the all the shenanigans. And that's the time, I think. That's the vulnerable time in the race
where you as a driver, if you're if you're Raj, you got a you can't get at you can't get it.
It's easy to overstep out of control because guys are guys are guys are had guys have had it. And it's
now gloves are off last couple of corners. You remember, you remember we used to go to I don't know
if you were spotting for me back back in the butt days. You weren't, but I did the last 10. We went
to Sonoma and we would go to Sonoma. And if there was a late yellow and and there was going to be
three or four laps to go, you would see half a dozen guys eight, maybe 10 tires are huge.
Get spun the out. Just let just blatantly just dumped in the corners. I'm sitting there running
20th in a race at Sonoma. And you would just pick up multiple spots in the last couple of
couple laps because everybody's just like had it. And they're like, I'm dumb of this. I'm dumb
with you. I didn't like how you drove me in the last corner. Guess what? Your ass is going in the
tires. Guess what? You're going in the sand trap. And man, you're just driving around there free spot,
free spot, free spot. I'm good because it's like a track to try not to be the guy that got dumped,
right? And I dumped Stacy Compton. I was like, Hey, oh, yeah, I'll take a spot. Here's one more
not Stacy Compton out of the way. Stacy Compton did do. And uh, it's a dude. Well,
I didn't have to worry about him. Um, he's over in the sand trap. He's a half a mile away.
By the time I got to the garage area, Chad can house was crew chief in his car and Chad come up
to the car after the race. And was like, what the fuck? And I'm like, Hey man, everybody was doing
it, you know, what am I going to say? You have any issues with crew chiefs going up to drivers,
like we saw? No, not really. I mean, he just, uh, Danny. Yeah. Yeah, not really. No, I don't,
I don't, I don't, and I don't, and I don't, and I, you know, look, I'm glad Jesse Love was like,
Hey, let's just say, let's just settle this over here. This ain't going anywhere. That was,
that's actually very, very mature, very mature, really mature. And so, and they were able to talk
it out. And I really hope that that Jesse and Rajak and race each other. Well, the rest of the season,
I'm sure, I'm sure they can't. Um, and I don't mind a crew chief coming up in that context.
They're in the garage. They're not in somebody's pit box. They're not at somebody's hauler.
This is a neutral site. Danny can come up and say whatever he wants to say. If Danny wants to
say things, then, you know, he's, he's, Danny's gonna live with whatever that, you know,
the repercussions from that are. And it is what it is. I didn't understand what he was, he was saying
something about tightening the belts. Yeah. Yeah. My only thing is then like, what do you think he was
trying to convey there? What was his line? You better tighten them belts. They're going to come
after him. Oh, he's a big safety advocate. My issue was that like, you're going to come over. He,
he just was like, say, by the way, before I had this argument with you, I just want to remind you,
man, to keep those belts tight. Um, now, what are you doing now? I'm very upset about.
I think safety guy. My, my favorite part is Rosh, I can't hear anything. So he just keeps saying,
huh, so he has to keep saying it over and over again. That's the great defense mechanism. I
thought it was a good chassis. I love the man Pat on our car. That's, I had an issue with,
you're telling him to walk away. He's by his car, Danny. You walked over there. Pat has every
right to stay. Danny doesn't even know where he's at. Danny's so mad. He don't even know where he's
at. Yeah. What are you doing here? Why are you? Why are you beside your car? Get out of here.
That's, get away from your car. I need to make sure that belts are up to date.
Yeah. That would have been hilarious. Walk up to make sure your belts are up to date, buddy.
Make sure. I fell in a specter. That tickled me. I don't know why it's funny.
I don't know, man. I thought it was pretty silly, but I love my guy Pat sticking up for his driver.
He's, you know, Pat's a guy. I like the emotion though after the race. So Pat is like,
Pat's a future crew chief, super duper leader. Love that he didn't care. He, I mean, Pat is
disappointed. The thing I loved about it is this and Rajah should appreciate this. Rajah just
tossed 10, let's say 10 minimum 10 points in the trash can, right? Something we don't want to do.
Something we can't do for this. Yeah. And this is preventable. Pat knows that, but still in that
moment, Pat's like, this is my driver, you know, I'm going to be here. Yeah. And so that was
pretty cool because your team, it's, that's when you know, you got good culture in your team,
it's when you f*** up and they still weigh you in. We know you f*** up, but we got you. And that's
the way the, you know, that instantly, that's how I remember Kirk Shalmer Dean, all those guys
talking about dad, they were like, yeah, we know sometimes he actually read this guy, but we were
going to fight, you know, we're all fight for him. Yeah. If it came to the blows, you know, and so,
that's good culture. Like we've had a couple of bad weeks like Atlanta got racked and then got kind
of taken out here, but I will say that like having Rodney is a great example on how to lead the team
because everyone kind of feeds off the crew chief and driver a lot, you know what I mean, the rest
of the team. And the way Rodney handles these situations helps the team a lot as well. Well,
we went around and around on this sole, O'Reilly's race. Let's move on to the cup.
Big wreck. Where? Massive wreck. That's what it says here. Massive wreck.
All right. Massive crash. You know what? I watched the cup race, but I'll be honest. Let's get a
video of this crash up on the board. I want to see it a little bit better. I didn't really look
at this too much. I know that Freddie was trying to blame Bubba for what happened. So Bubba's
up the track right here coming off turn two back down on the bottom behind Hose of R.
People have been making that move on resources. Wow. Yeah.
Stin Hose of R. And it was hang on. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam. Bam.
He just drove through him. What did Bubba say?
I mean, just looking at that particular replay looks like Bubba just drove through him.
Was Bubba getting shoved from behind? No, I think the previous
Hose of R had gotten into him before. There ain't nobody. That shot right there was.
I didn't like what you do. Bubba is not getting. Oh, we're so close to getting
wrecked. Oh, it's very similar to like, we're talking about Roger. Like,
with Bubba, you're not having a great day, but like, you'll let your emotions get the best of you.
You just took a bad day at worst. Yeah. I think he owned it. No, didn't he? Yeah, he owned it.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I saw his frustration because most of the day, all the cup guys were playing
pretty good down in the one. Nobody was really making that move because when somebody goes
to the bottom three wide, a lot of time, somebody gets turned on the outside and it's kind of
preventable, but I'm not surprised to see when I saw the 77 jump down there. You kind of know
when people like that are lining up behind you, the debts option. Yes. Well, he said he didn't mean
to turn Hose of R, which I mean, yeah, he sure. I agree. I mean, he wrecked him. It's kind of
hard not to say. He didn't mean to turn him. He wrecked him. He didn't, he, I think what he's
trying, maybe to say is that he realized he. Yeah. Yeah. This is the problem. So if we looked
at the points, I think coming out of Atlanta or somewhere along the line, Bubba was second to his
teammate. He dropped eight spots. Yeah, he is, uh, in two races, two last places, right? I don't
have it printed out here. I forgot this week. I think he's got two last places in a row. So Bubba is
now eight or or somewhere in that area. He dropped eight spots to 11th. Yeah, he's 11th, dude.
So there it is. So Bubba has, um, Bubba was behind his teammate in second at one point, maybe
70, 80 points out. And now he is 147 points out. But now he is tied with Brad in eighth, Kyle
Arson, Chris Buscher. So this 11th looks a little bit worse than it really is. He's actually tied
for eighth, wouldn't you say? Yeah, worse than second, seventh is 141. He's six points out of seventh.
But still, you know, he's gave up, let's say roughly 60, 70 points to Tyler over the last handful
of races. So just that to me is a great example of why this points system is going to be so much fun
because if you're a driver, you know, burns out a fuse or short circuits in a moment like that.
This is what this is what it can lead to. And, uh, you know, Bubba can claw his way back into this
with some great work. And he's capable of doing that. But I love, you know, I love being able to
watch that points week after week. I love that now at the end of every broadcast, it's important
for us to put the points on the board and see what's changed. Yeah. And, um, that is a, that is a
fun thing that we used to have that went away and now it's back. So this is this point of some
back shows you that like consistency pays off. Yeah. Like to me, like you can't, like you said,
you can't afford them low, like, consistency should matter. And it's, uh, it's a big part of what's
going on. Um, Denny lost the race had it one. Yeah, he was going to have a dominating big points
today. I mean, you still got more points than Chase though, didn't he? Yeah. But one battery start.
You know, and this is one of the races where watching it back, I'm okay with the win or not
getting the most points. Chase didn't get any stage points that I recall. He didn't know.
55 minutes. Hey, if you ain't, and so at the end of the day,
Denny gets more points and walks out there. I could care less. Yeah. I promise you chase is
still pretty happy. Uh, yeah. I mean, I'm just saying as a fan, as a fan, it changes nothing
for me. Um, I mean, what it could have been with everything that Denny did all day and everything
that Chase didn't do in the, in terms of the, of the, of the, uh, the points, it's, it's
way to out the way it should have. You think Denny spun his tires on the restart? He say so.
He said he did. Yeah. And that was the difference maker. Cause then the caution comes out for
Bubba's wreck and Chase had just, uh, been scored at second place. Yeah. So then on the next
restart, Chase's start next to Ross and the rest of his history. Yeah. So the, I know he spun
his tires and all that good stuff. Um, but Chase's, the story of Chase's win is the, um,
is the strategy from his team in Allen. Uh, they just, you know, hey, well, not really a
hell marry. Honestly, I, what, if it didn't pan out, I think it still was a net positive
for Chase. I don't think we'll know, honestly, but I don't, if it was going to be, if it was
supposed to be the better strategy and that was like the last one of the day, then I feel like
there would have been more people. Well, why don't we ask him? He's right here. The driver of
the number nine, the winner this weekend at Martinsville, the new owner of the grandfather clock,
another grandfather, another one. Yeah.
Thanks for joining us today, man. I know you're busy and out there in Georgia, it is a beautiful,
beautiful state. Love your area. Been out there to visit a time or two. And, uh,
know you got a lot of cool things to do this week before you get back at it. But me and TJ,
we're just having a conversation about the choice to come to pit road so early.
Let's just hypothetically wonder what happens if that race continues to play out. And we don't,
and you know, you, you get this yellow that that's like makes that move really, really great,
right? Now you're in the top three, top two. And, uh, you got a shot with some great pit work
to get out here and win the race. Maybe if that race continues to go green, do you think it's still
a net positive to come early? Um, I think so. And I think that it was getting better to,
because everyone ended up shorting themselves even more than they were intending. They're going
to have to run 100 and some odd laps. I'm not mistaken. There was still about 100 and something
to go and everybody pit, you know, everybody else pit. So that would have been the longest run of the
day, right? And who knows where that wouldn't edit out? I mean, I think at the end of the day,
the odds of, uh, the odds of the race going green at Martinsville completely in the last stage
or next to none. So I think that's why no one was doing the two-stop strategy because,
you know, at some point in time, you are going to be exposed, right? So I think you're trying to
void that exposure, um, throughout the course of that second stop because, you know, who knows,
you're going to go to lap down, you're going to go to laps down, you're going to have a bunch of
time to make back up. And there's certainly exposure involved in that. So, um, but I felt like
the way it was trending. Man, I thought it was going to work out really good either way, um,
but I could be totally wrong on that. Yeah. Do you, um, do you think you guys approve the race car?
I know that clean air is really important. Um, but it just, Danny had been so good all day long
when he was out front. He was pretty comfortable, uh, in terms of putting some distance between him
and the rest of the field. But man, once you got the lead, you were just faster race car. Uh,
had y'all improved the car some throughout the day? I, you know, I do think that we had gotten
better, um, you know, throughout the course of the day. And, um, you know, I think, and I had told
down probably some time around halfway. I was like, man, I really don't, I don't hate my balance.
I actually felt like we've made it a lot better, especially for the traffic that we were in. I was
just kept telling him, I'm like, man, I wish I could just control my run. You know,
wish I could just have the opportunity to get into a spot where I'm not, you know,
running super hard at the beginning or, you know, I can kind of do what I want for just a little
while to, to kind of make that make it live a little better. Um, and sure enough, he, he gave
that to me. So, man, I don't know how many times I've asked for that and not gotten that, um,
given to me, but boy, it was great to, to have that given to us. So, so fortunately, yes, we had
gotten our car better. We've been working on it and pretty big swings throughout the early
portion of the race and, um, yeah, got it into a really respectable spot where when, when he did
give me my, my wish list item that I never get given, um, it was good enough to, to be able to
manage that run the way we needed to and, and just, you know, just have enough. How do you work on
the relationship, uh, driver to crew chief that, you know, this is a long one and you guys had a ton of
success. It's noisy out there. I know you're, you're not too aware of all the things that go on in
the internet and the social media world, but, um, you know, it's, it's tough. I think to keep
relationships like this productive over the course of a long period of time and it gets harder
and harder as, as, as things change and society and so forth. But you guys seem to have a belief
in each other that steadfast and, um, and it doesn't seem to waver one bit. Man, it really hasn't.
And, you know, I, I wish I could tell you what the special formula was for that. Um, I, I don't
know that there is really any one thing. I, I think that truthfully, I think it all kind of
started with just a lot of respect and you, you know, this like, you know, when you come into the
sport and you're a young guy and you don't know nothing and you don't deserve any respect. But
somebody that has been there for a long time and a lot of different cases would very easily
look down on someone who doesn't have any experience. It doesn't have all the answers or doesn't,
you know, no have any idea what they're getting themselves into, right? And, and I think for me,
it was the exact opposite from him. It was a lot of respect. It was, you know, we're not going to
do this my way. We're going to do this our way. How can we figure out how to make this the best for
us? And, um, I sensed just a large amount of respect from a guy who had really put in a lot of
time before me that I didn't feel like he had to give me at, at that time. And to me, that just
sets us up for success from, from the beginning, from just a relationship standpoint, not saying we
were going to like the world on fire, but just that I thought, man, this, this can work. Because as
soon as a young guy receives that type of respect, well, what do you want to do back? I want to give
him all the respect in the world that I have to give because, you know, that's how he's treated me.
And, and that's really how it's been since since the beginning. So our working relationship is
super simple. And I think that that's a lot of it. Is it just started off on, on the right foot?
Yeah. So let me ask a question. So at the end of the race, Chase, I got a question for you,
where you would all like, I thought Denny, I actually thought Denny had the best Carl Day
dominated was going to be able to kind of hassle you a little bit. And honestly, man, like he couldn't
even really get close to you. And I kept looking and I'm like, dang, Chase,
now he's starting to pull away a little bit here. Did it kind of surprise you that he couldn't
really hassle you at all or get to you? Yeah, I mean, I knew he had been good. I mean, honestly,
I hadn't been around him. You know, I knew he had led a bunch of the race, but I had not seen him
firsthand until, you know, the cycle started happening. He had just passed me back, you know,
before that caution came out, we were way different on tires at that point. Yeah.
Um, you know, so I really wasn't sure what to expect out of him late in the run. I was,
I was thinking that he was going to make a charge at some point and I was trying to manage my run
accordingly. And unfortunately, yeah, it was just, you know, just good enough. I do think we
had room to be better too. Like my car did different things out front that it had not done all day
because we hadn't seen it lick a lick clean air. So, um, you know, I do think there was room to be
better. But yeah, I was honestly, I was really proud of the way we managed that last run. Like,
yes, the call was great and all those things, but I thought the way we executed the final pit stop,
the final restart. And yeah, and executed that last run, I really thought it was something to be
proud of and, you know, to do it against him. And he, he, he sets the standard there of the people
that are still in the series in my opinion. So, um, really cool to be able to outdo him when,
when the opportunity presented itself and, and, uh, you know, enjoyed, enjoyed racing him. And
then he kept me honest and had to be, had to be as perfect as I could be for, you know, those last,
especially the last 20. And I thought it was all managed really well. So, was proud of that effort.
Yeah. How's Victor Relina at Martinsville? Man, it's good. They got a new clot. You hear about the
new, the new clock manufacturer. Yes. Dale knows how to, yeah, I know. I saw this play. I didn't
know it's for a new clock. It looks, it looks pretty good. I thought it looked really cool too. I
honestly, so I'm that evidently that was the first one. So they changed clock manufacturers
over the winter. And that was the first one of the new manufacturers. So I thought that's kind of
cool. Why not win that one? Do you hunt, do you hunt dog? No, I don't, I don't, I don't partake in
that. Have you ever, I think I tried one when I was a kid and that was enough for me. So, yeah,
I'm not, I think I was there Saturday. I think I had six. God, they're so good. I don't know how
you do it. I was pretty dang hungry after that race that I honestly thought about it and that's
saying something. Damn, all right. Hey, consider that dog. So I love the new point system. I love
talking about it. And I love looking at the points and seeing how, you know, certain days are
affecting certain drivers and how this thing's playing out. It's, it's really checking all the boxes
for me and what I really loved about the sport back in the day. And I know you were part of, you
know, part of that conversation, especially when the announcement was made. It's early in the season.
I don't think you're probably staring at points too much, but with your consistency that you guys
have and have shown over the past couple of years, you got to be feeling pretty happy or confident
in your ability to, you know, to make this point system work in your favor. Yeah, I think so. I mean,
I think it's, I think it's a great format. I really do. And I've been, it's been super interesting.
I think the biggest difference in this version of the chase versus the one I remember like in 2011.
You know, Tony Stewart won 50% of the last 10 races that year. He beat Carl on a tiebreaker at
homestead. And what blows my mind about that is, you know, Carl ran consistent enough that
that was, he's still tied him, you know, he tied him at the end, but didn't have the wins.
Man, if a guy wins 50% of the final 10 races in this deal, he's going to have 100 point lead like
Tyler has right now. It's pretty different now. Like it's similar, but it's different in a lot of
ways. And you better be running good. You better be winning. You know, you're going to have to,
you're going to have to be lights out for those last 10 because a win is worth an awful lot of
amount of points. And, you know, so I'm curious to see how that plays out. But from our standpoint,
I'm just excited to have a win this early. Like I know that seems like really silly, but man,
we've never won races early in the year. Yeah, you got out of the car and said that.
Had that been something? Y'all talk about that morning? Why was that so top of mind?
No, I know. It just dawned on me, you know, pretty quickly. I was like, man, it's, I'm usually
miserable through this part of the year. You know, like, man, this is great. We got a, you know,
we got a win early. So yeah, I guess it's just something that I've wanted to accomplish
personally. Like it's not something we have prioritized. Like we always want to win, but
it just hadn't worked out that way. So yeah, really cool because it gives you a,
it's not like, oh, the pressure is off. Like, not at all. It's actually the opposite. I look at it
like, man, we have a great runway now to build on this. Like you have way more time to make this
better, you know, and to keep trucking. So that part's really cool and not a place that we've been
in. So I'm excited for that, that chance to try and build on it and, you know, make it better.
You're going to go play around a golf today? I am. I'm fired up too. I can't wait. What is
the handicap? Oh, it's not good. It's not, I mean, I suck. Don't get me wrong. I'm like a,
I don't know, 12, 13 somewhere in there. That's pretty good. I wouldn't call that, I wouldn't call
that bad. Do you ever see me play? Yeah. Well, it's just bad. Like, if you go play with Blaney
and, and some of those guys, he's that good. He's pretty good. And the one I take, I was going to
say the one, the one that I'm not sure if you've heard about or not, but Scotty is, I mean, he,
he is like, really good. So when you go play with those guys, they make you feel really dumb. So
I'm trying to, I'm trying to work on my, my game a little bit. So I can at least, you know,
go and, Willie B was asking me, Willie B was asking me if he should buy a simulator for his house.
I think he should. I think he should. Yeah. He's going to do sit on this money. Go ahead.
Go ahead and buy it. Be good and healthy. And yeah, I think he should. He didn't ask me my opinion.
So I'm glad he asked you. I told him, I bought a simulator like 10 years ago. And we talked
about prices and the stuff. I said, if you wait, it's just getting more expensive every year.
Try to do now. True story. Nothing's gotten cheaper. That's for certain.
Well, have fun. Thanks for your time. Yeah, man. We always really appreciate it because we know
we're asking you guys to step out of your, your normal lives and give us a little bit of time.
It's morning. Have fun on the course today and and maybe we'll see you back here next week.
Yeah, man. No, I enjoyed it. Appreciate it. Always enjoy hanging out. So, I mean, thanks for having me.
Well, we got some insight there on the race and good insight. As much as I want to give
Denny Brose and Travis a hard time, Denny ran a hell of a race, man. I felt almost bad for Denny.
Having been, you know, just because he's been so dominant. Yeah, I just can't. The whole race.
That's, but he's dude. He was swept the weekend. Paul look. Well, you know, we get it. Travis. Good Lord.
You also wrecked Ryan Blaney. Jesus, but he's got a ton of freaking clocks. He got none to worry about.
I mean, he could always get another one, though. I know. Yeah. Maybe able to give it to me. Oh, God. You wish.
I'm choking. Yeah. You're just putting fuel on the fire, aren't you? No, Jesus. He fainted in the flames.
I got two of them traitors. Fan in the flames of the haters. Hey, whatever it takes. All right. I think you like it. Oh,
there was a comment speaking of Denny Hamlin. He, um, he had a comment, I guess, after the race with Jeff
Gluck, or maybe it was on his podcast yesterday about the caution laps. Yeah. Um, oh, yeah. It was on the
podcast on the podcast. Yep. He was, you know, he was talking about a conversation around the
cautions for the caution laps. I think for the stage breaks, but it could have been just any caution.
Um, and listen, I want to series and I understand like we are in a rush trying to get back to
green flag as quick as possible. There's a lot of scoring things that have to happen throughout the
caution. Uh, so I guess I understand NASCAR's position, uh, on trying to get back to green. And I
know they're trying, I know they're not, you know, dragging their feet, but, um, I replied to this
comment. I think Jeff Gluck made the post and I replied to the comment and I don't really have a,
I don't really have a problem with the length of cautions in a general part of the race where it's
a natural yellow, right? Now, you know, some natural yellows are longer than others and they're
frustrating. Um, I'll be in the race car, you know, what the fuck are we doing? Well, you know,
and they'll bring you to the holiday and say, well, they were everywhere and you didn't know that,
you know, we were fixing this and fixing that and you didn't know that. So that's why we were
taking so long. And so NASCAR's usually got a good reason why a caution is what it is. My, uh,
comment, and I think some of Denny's points too was the length of the stage break cautions.
And I know fans are going to easily jump right on this and say, just get rid of them. Um,
but let's all talk about, uh, the realistic possibilities of that is just, that is not a solution.
NASCAR's, let's just assume, you know, NASCAR's not just going to get rid of stage cautions.
They're just not. No. Yeah. So let's not even have that conversation because it's just wasting,
I think time. So, but what can we do to shorten them up? And what could we do? So my problem really
is that it eats into the next stage. So stage one caution comes out and we'll be at some of these
races with trucks and Xfinity or O'Reilly. We'll be at some of these races with them. And
they'll be having like 40 lap stages. Yeah. The Pocano trucks run almost just over 10 laps.
Pocano's the perfect example. They eat into like 20% of the stage with the caution.
And that to me, I just don't know why that doesn't signal real concern, right? Of like,
now we shouldn't be doing that, right? We can't. Um, look, the stage cautions are manufactured
yellows. They are. They are what they are. They're, they're not a real caution. They're brought
out because it's, you know, it's implemented by the sanctioned body. And that yellow,
since it's their responsibility and they are the reason why we're having it, right? They're
putting it on us as a fan, right? Watching the race. All right. We got a caution. Okay. We
understand what you're doing. It shouldn't eat into some of the other, you know, the remaining
part of the race, right? It shouldn't. I made, I made the comment. It's like taking product off
the shelf. Really? It is. I have to go ahead. Look at it. Yeah. And so I don't know. I think,
I think we got a, do we just not not count the yellows then? I don't know what you do because
you got teams. Teams are going to say, well, you know, we got all this data that we got all these
computers. We're running all these programs to do fuel mileage. NASCAR has scoring.
Systems that would probably go, if you were to be scoring this caution lap and not this caution
lap, and I don't know, I don't know what the, I don't know what the technical challenges are
with that. I don't. And maybe there are none. But I don't like the idea that the stage break
caution takes 20% off of the next stage. And, and, and Pocano is the perfect example of that
because the stages are so short in the truck race or an O'Reilly race, it's some of these events.
They, they do use up a good chunk of stage two or stage three. Well, the cup race is 80 laps
a stage. Yeah. In the beginning of that race. And the second one starts at 70. Yeah,
starts to 70. There was 96 caution laps in the O'Reilly race. That's a lot.
For now, I don't think it was even a red flag at the end, but dang.
Yeah. I mean, I, look, I, I don't, I have a series, the car's tour race. We have, we had a,
we had a very similar issue this weekend with a lot of cautions drivers were driving like
maniacs running over each other. We had yellow after yellow after yellow. And we had a lot of
yellows. And so I understand the series is not in an easy spot, but they're, they're,
the stage break yellows for sure are too long. We're waiting on the caution comes out. You
know, we're, we're making sure that we're on TV to see the pit stops. We're making sure that,
you know, we're, we're opening pit road and doing this and all these, there's just added laps
that are, that's got to, and I'm, my, I have to, I have to assume that NASCAR has had this
conversation internally. And they just can't come to a solution that's better than what we have.
Well, Senate, do you want to get rid of, do you want commercials during green flag?
Would be the, if you, I've never had a problem with commercials during green flag, I have it.
So in the cup race, the caution came out before the end of the stage at 77. We went,
so you had to, so that's, that presents an entirely new problem, TJ, that we need to point out.
The caution sometimes comes out a couple laps, four laps or so before the stage break. And so we
just roll through it. They should just call it there and let's go to pit road. And let's, yeah,
it's, it's just so, it's so strange to me that we go, well, it's, we can't go back to green
because it's so close to the stage. So this is the official end of the stage, but we're just going
to run the caution laps to the stage trip. Now we're going to go through the whole process.
Guess what lap we went back green on. What lap? 96. So how many laps is that?
19 caution laps. I mean, we went, we went yellow on lap 77 green on 96. I would like if they
listened. What race was this? Cup race, Sunday. Yeah. Like you go, that's all. That is not okay.
The stage ends early. Start the second stage. Make these teams adapt. Well, I mean, I'm okay.
If there's two laps, laps 77, you're going to run two laps to get to the end of stage. I'm fine,
but like, what are you doing after? No, I'm saying like, if you're going to call a caution,
but two laps before the end of the stage, end it there. Yeah, let's open up. That's not
drive around for two laps. And if that means stage two starts two laps sooner. So Arca, adapt.
Arca does a halfway break. These tracks where there's no caution. If it's a hunter lap race,
and the cost comes out at like 45, they say, all right, this is the halfway break right now.
You're saying do that with the stages. Like if it's within five at the end of the stage,
that's the end of boom. There it is. And let's get put road ready and let's go. I mean,
all I can say is Denny's right. Oh, easy now. Travis is excited. All I can say is didn't look.
I don't want to pile on NASCAR. Denny's right. That is absolutely not acceptable. And and we got
a has some serious. I'm my, my opinion is I'm sure NASCAR has had. I mean, this isn't a new issue.
Yeah. This ain't a new issue. And I'm sure NASCAR has had some internal conversations.
And I'm, I'm just assuming that they haven't been able to find an alternative solution. And they're
again, if they were sitting here, they would probably tell us very good reason why they have it,
the way they have it. Even though we don't love it, we don't love 19 laps of yellow.
There's probably really, really good reason why it went that way or it happens that way. And
there's stick to it of this to adhere to their protocols. And it's, you know, that it's,
but it's still frustrating. Yeah. You know, to have to sit there and I'm, I just, you know,
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All right, so I mentioned the car store. We had a ruffle, man. I don't want to spend a whole
lot of time on this, but I'm doing a recap that I'm going to give the flow here later.
And I am not looking forward to doing this. I do recaps for flow for all the cars to race.
And this is just one race where I don't really want to do it.
We start, we went to Wake. Wake is a bullring tiny. We've had good races there. No question,
no reason why we couldn't go back and have another one. It's short. We talked, we thought long
and hard about adding laps. And so we decided instead of 125, we'd run 175.
You know, we had, we've stopped for fuel before. If we thought we needed to to save the teams.
And so it was probably something absolutely something that we needed to do in this particular race,
but we didn't. And cars began to run out of gas. More yellows. It just drug out. It was a lot of
rough, a lot of rough moments in that race. Were the teams that ran out where they fall to start
the race? That's, you know, you would like to think that they were because it's 175 lap race.
All of them ran out for the most part in about the same amount of time, you know, within lap
or two of each other. So you're more likely everyone's pretty packed up. Here's the way it goes. So
here's, here's the, here's a somewhat of a recap. The race was rough. The drivers were out of control.
We've got a bit of a problem with respect on the racetrack. That's putting it lightly.
We need to race down in the corner and not drive up underneath everybody's rear bumper bar to
and shove them up the racetrack at every opportunity because it escalates. More and more people see it.
More and more people start doing it. The next thing you know, you got the whole field driving
that way. It's a standard. And then we have what escalated into an intentional wreck by Doug Barnes
on many Tyrell. Now many was just as guilty because of his role in escalating it. They ran over
each other for four or five corners. And it became something that was entertaining, became ugly
and unfortunate for both guys. Then we had all of the fuel issues. The cars tour should have
brought all the teams down pit road when they started to recognize we got to a certain number of laps.
That's on us. We got to get them on pit road, put fuel in them to avoid what ended up happening,
which was cars running out of gas every now and then. And having we probably had, I don't know,
half a dozen yellows that could have been avoided. Yeah.
There were some, you know, there was just some, there was just some things that the tour didn't do well
from a race control standpoint. It wasn't our best night at all. It wasn't the best night for
the drivers at all either. I think we all equally as a series share responsibility on what type
in event we have every single week. It was entertaining still seeing that we had. Thank you. We have
one, maybe two races that seem to go this way every year. I believe in the people that we have
in place in the tour to make sure the tour can be great. I believe in those folks. And I think
that they can get it right. We want to get that one or two race down to zero. We don't, you know,
in terms of the show that we had Saturday, we kind of want to get that, you know, get those out
of the series entirely. But it's an all in kind of thing. It takes all of us. And if the drivers
are out there running over each other and creating unnecessary yellows and destroying bumper bars
and rocker panels and race cars and our veterans that are in the series are destroying their cars
because of these mistakes or these miscues and getting frustrated. You know, it's going to add
caution laps. It's going to put us in a window where we're now having to force ourselves down
pit road to add fuel. It's going to force the series to have to do things and decisions like
that that they don't want to make. They don't normally make does adding fuel make a real hard
scenario for you guys. Adding fuel doesn't make adding coming down and stopping the cars and put
fuel in is not a real issue in terms. It doesn't really change much. Now, you got to do it early
because you can't, you can't do it late because some guys are have already come to pit road,
fueled up. They see the, they see the issue that's coming. Yeah. And they're prepared for it.
And now you've taken their advantage away. So you got to bring them down. You've got to know the
lap number like it wake. We should have said, all right. If we get to lap, if we get to 200 laps,
cautions and greens, right? Or whatever that number may be, we're coming. We're not even going to
chance it. We're going to, if we get to this number, we're going to bring them to pit road.
What the reason why you don't want to do that is twofold, right? Fueling cars on, fueling cars
is dangerous. Fueling cars are dangerous. They're hot race cars. You're going to have guys. Nobody's
got any protection. You're going to have guys trying to rush to put fuel in cars and it's dangerous.
Their car, you know, that, that is a scary thing for me. We don't want the liability. And,
and guys are all packed on pit road knows the tail. You know, it just, it could be a potential hazard.
Could be. I don't love guys putting fuel in even when they're coming down pit road by themselves,
right? Yeah. We just don't want to add fuel during the race because we don't have, we're not
fueling cars like cup cars. They have a, you know, we don't have quick, uh, connects and all that
stuff. You, you, you, you, you pour it into a funnel out of a five gallon jug and it just
hopefully gets all in there, right? Yeah. Late models shouldn't be refueling to race. It's
dangerous. The second part is, and this isn't that, this is important, but it shouldn't affect
our integrity and how we call the race. And I've, I've, I've gave our team that information.
The broad, we're watching a broad, we have a broadcast. We got to package it neatly. If we
pull the cars down pit road and stop for 20 minutes, then we lose our audience. They, they change
to the next thing. We had modifides at Martinsville. We had Nash, we had a Hickory Arca going on.
We had a lot of competition going on that night, but that shouldn't really make us,
that shouldn't really affect our decisions. And I've told our team, I've shared with them in the past
like, hey, man, we need to have a good show. We need to think about the streaming audience.
That's maybe some bad advice. Our guys in the booth, Danny, everybody in the booth just needs
to call a race of integrity with no regard to what it might look like on TV, right? Just
calling a race of integrity for all of our competitors who are there. And, uh, and everything else
should take care of itself. So we have a race like this every, every year. And it is so
disappointing. But, you know, all we can do is try to tell our competitors that we expect more
out of ourselves. We expect more out of them. And we hope on our end that we're going to show up
next week and get it right. Um, Connor Jones won the race. He's worked in the series for a long time,
worked really hard. Carol team celebrated a win. They've been a big supporter of the series for
a long time. It was great to see that, uh, that group have success going to Nashville in a couple
of weeks, April 11th for the next race. And I'll be there and, and, uh, trying to compete and,
you know, hopefully, hopefully we have a much smoother event than we had it wake.
All right. It's time for this month's selection of our ultimate racing collector presented by
Lionel Racing. They're the official die cast of NASCAR. They're your go-to source for all your
racing die cast needs. Check out the latest pre-orders at LionelRacing.com. This month's winner
is Chester. Chester. Chester, Jr. Let's take a look. We're going, uh, we're downstairs. It appears in
and his man cave. There's a lot of stand-ups on the wall headed down there. David Allison,
David Allison, David Allison. Um, a lot of tailpieces. Oh, a whole side of Newman's car with a
Newman stand-up. Oh, a rookie Earnhardt bumper. There's a whole side of Dale Earnhardt's car with
a stand-up of Dale Earnhardt. This is insane. It's got some stuff aboard some trouble board.
Bumperpool. Just a bunch of body panels, tons of rear bumpers. Is that a 33-pitch?
My gosh. The rear bumpers this guy has. And he's got his nice, his TV with the damn 1979
Daytona 500. It's replaying. Got your little kitchenette right there. That's awesome. Man,
come on. Is that an official? Got a few bathrooms, a couple of jackets. I don't think he has a
few bathrooms. I think he's just one. That might be two. That's all three doors.
Might be a man's man, man and female bathroom. You don't know. Oh, the old school
STP uniform is super cool. Let's take another run through. It's got lighting going down the
stairs to make it safe. Let's take another run through. Let's take another drive.
Got the Bobby Allison emblem up top. A lot of flags hanging from the ceiling. That's cool.
The yellow caution light. Nice touch. There's a buddy, rookie stripes.
Oh, a little racing on the TV there. Got the Rusty Wallace number two. Light over the,
oh, there's a bathroom. There it is. Race cars in the bathroom. All right. Got your little
table right here. You have your couple of beers. Dang, a day of Blaney 93. Hey, and there's some
bumpers. There are a lot of bumpers on here. Again, I got the two box. I wonder if the two boxes
got, it's kind of like the pantry spree. How about that? Nice. Yeah. Yeah. There's the Richard
Petty uniform crew uniform. Very cool. It's a whole thing. What's on the floor right there?
I don't know. Back up just a little bit. Yeah. What was that on the floor right next to the
uniform right there? Oh, catch cans. Okay. Got some catch cans. Anyway. Thank you. Right.
That's super cool, man. There's the uniform, the official uniform on the stand up.
Pretty awesome, Chester. He is the winner of this month's selection of the Ultimate Racing
Collector presented by Lionel Racing. We'll do this every month. It's, you know, if you want to
win, send in your videos. We'll tell you next time. Yeah. We'll let you know when we're going to
post on social media and how to get a get a touch to that. Good job, Lester. That was a great job
by him. Great video. Thank you very much. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another
episode of Ask Junior. We want to thank Xfinity for waving the red flag on internet price hikes
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just straight to victory lane. We like that. We've got a winner in Xfinity. Imagine that. So
let's get right to it. First question is how the hell did you sign Chris Buschard cards?
I was leaving the racetrack Saturday walking out of the racetrack after the race.
And there's a bunch of autographed seekers for a lack of a better word standing around the tunnel
in turn four. And they've got die casts. You know, they're, you know, you're going to sign a few
and you're walking and talking. The guy hands me a book. It's got a bunch of blue and white
cards. I'm in my blue stuff. So is a busher and I didn't even look down. I'm talking to the guy.
I'm like, yeah, man, how's it going? Oh, man, awesome, awesome. And then I noticed I signed Chris
and I didn't notice I'd signed two. I just noticed I'd signed one. I was like, oh darn,
I'm so sorry. And he goes, oh, it's okay. And then we walked away. And then I stopped and I said,
hey, let me take a picture of that. So I walked back over and took a picture of it because I thought
I'd have some fun because Chris Buschard is an awesome dude. I know I'll give him a little
**** every now and then on the show, but it's because he has such a great personality. I really enjoy
Chris. And so I thought he'd think that was funny, which he did reply. He said, man, it happens.
I imagine you know, you got the beard, the blue, the this, the that. I can see you're just
signing and you just never know. Next question is this weekend cups off, but a Riley is out there
at Rockingham and Cletus will be racing. Have you given any advice or what would you advice,
would you give him if he asked for racing this weekend? I told Cletus to stay out of the news,
right? Go race, have fun. Don't try to be. I mean, he's, he, listen,
if my expectation, and I mean this in the best possible way, my expectation is for him to
just to not be fast, right? He's not going to be a top 10 car, right? Don't try to do any hero
**** just go out there, run the laps, learn. He's like, man, I talked to him the other night. He's
like, man, I don't want to embarrass myself. I hope I'm, hope I can be good. I know you don't
worry about being good. You don't be good in race one. You go out, you need, you don't think
about the long game. Like you don't need a bunch of races for the starts to work, click,
make sense. This is just about going out there running the laps and he's getting thrown into the
game, right? He's the, you know, he's the backup quarterback or third string guy that didn't get
any reps with the one team and he's getting thrown into the game and third quarter. Just go out
there and don't make a fool yourself. Don't force a pass and throw that interception on the first
throw. Yeah, mischief. Yeah, you turn the whole damn stadium against you.
Damn it, TJ. Don't miss a shift. Yeah, I just hope he goes out there and just go have fun.
Go be just finish a race, right? If he finishes a race, he'll probably come out of there with a top
20 ish, maybe, and that's the success, I think. I would say that if he doesn't wreck,
doesn't crash his car, doesn't crash other cars. If that's one thing, the other thing is is when
he's getting lapped, which is possible, he needs to be very clear on where he wants to be on the
racetrack so that he is not part of the story, doesn't impede anybody or getting anybody's way.
If he can do that, that's great, right? And that's it. I mean, that's really it. Come on,
and I'll pit road, have some pit stops, do everything conservatively, learn what you can learn,
go through the, go through the process, get out and go, all right. I'm ready for the next one.
Yeah, I agree. That's it. I don't care where he finishes. Yeah, just get reps.
There should be nobody saying, all right, man, I think a top 25s doable. That shouldn't even be
in the conversation. Just go out there and run all the laps. Next question comes from the chat
here. Skater Nate wants to know, what's up with the green flag behind you? Oh, this is the green flag.
I was told and I really kind of believe it to be true, but this is the green flag. This is the
green flag that was waved at the 1998 days on the 500, the dad one, and it's signed by Dan Marino
who waved this. Now, the reason why I believe this to be the green flag is because of the material
this is like if it's very, very thin, it is not a production piece. It's not like a produced,
hey, man, we're going to make a bunch of flags and have some guys on them.
How it's pinned right here is intentional and important. Typically production flags
are just put on the stick and glue or whatever. There's some writing here. There's a lot of
little numbers and stuff written down here that I think has something to do with the flagman.
The link to the stick beyond the flag itself tells me that this is a race used flag or flag
that's going to be used. Usually produce pieces usually make stick longer.
And the link to the flag, right? Usually produce flags or square. This flag is rectangular
in length because that is the preference of the flagman and years and years of flagging.
He's like, that's how I want to do it. That's how I want it. And so, yeah, I think this is actually
the flag that was waved at the 1998. The person that gave it to me says it was. That's pretty cool.
I trust the person that gave it to me. Pretty cool to have stuff like that. You know,
I spent my whole life not really an active collector of things and I haven't really been,
I wasn't like, oh, I want some more. I want dad stuff. I want suits. I didn't think I, you know,
I thought that stuff was out there and it was no way I was ever going to get in my hands on
things like that. But for whatever reason, as I got older, people, some of that stuff,
starting to come back in my direction. And it's not a, it's not something I'm seeking out.
But every now and then, there's a person that's like, I've had this and I've had it forever
and now it's yours. And yes, it's pretty cool. So I've gotten like, I rock uniforms,
I've gotten some really cool uniforms of dads. I have off top of my head, you know,
I've got a couple of good wrench uniforms and he ran that car for many, many years. So there's
a lot of years when the, when he would have been in the white uniform. But I have a 1979 80
rookie uniform. I have the uniform that he won his first cup race in at Bristol. And he also
wore that uniform in 1988, a few events. I have an 81 uniform. I have an 84 uniform. So I have
some, I have a bus series uniform that he, that he wore around 84 85. So I've got some pretty cool
stuff from way back in the day that's harder, obviously, to find the older things. And I'm
thankful that some of that stuff found its way into my possession. So yeah, that's pretty neat.
This next question came from on Facebook. I saw, have you had the nerds jelly beans yet?
I've not. They look good though. I saw them. I don't like jelly beans. Controversial take, I know.
But have you had the, but I feel like nerds, I feel like you might like.
No, I do. But I don't like jelly beans. Can't get past it. I don't know, man. I don't like jelly
beans. They're kind of like in the licorice vein to me. They are. Yeah. The new nerd things that come
out with a year to go or the rope and the, no, the clusters, the clusters are awesome. Clusters
are good. Clusters are very good. Yeah, they are. Any other Easter candy that you got you guys
like to get? Anything specific. I know you love your candy or is it just general? Does it matter?
I'm in a non candy kind of. That's weird. I know. Yeah, I mean, you see. Well, I mean,
I got that giant bag from Key West. Yeah, like a week ago. So I like I time to take a little break.
But if you bought the girl some peeps yet? No. Do you like peeps? No, not a marshmallow kind of
guys. So there's so many different flavors are coming out with now. Like you go to the grocery
and look at the wall. There are so many different flavors. Yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah, but I'm
just so many. I feel like as a kid, I would eat a couple, but now it's an adult like just eating a
marshmallow is not in my, not on my list. Yeah. Yeah. Kids love them. Yeah. Kids tear them up.
I know. I don't. Yeah. My girls love deep marshmallows. I don't. Yeah, they do. Yeah.
I think it's the kid thing maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, so now they're having a debate on
somebody said they're a big pop tart guy. Another guy said that they love toastered strutles.
Either of those. I saw something get advertised. Was there like a, I guess they're making pop tart ice
cream now? Like literally, there's like it's like a pop tart on like an ice cream stick. I don't
know if it's true or not, but I saw something about. Are they like grind? I'm smashing the pop tart up.
Type it in. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think you're, I don't know if everyone see you eat a
pop tart. Have you ever eaten a pop tart? Oh, yeah. Really? Strawberry? I ate a pop tart, but then I
look at the, how many calories is it? Oh, it's bad. It's so bad. It's like 700 or something. Yeah. It's
a lot. It is a lot. Yeah. It is a lot. That made me think about it. Did you see? No, there's no way.
Per serving. Yeah, but there's like 12 servings in a box. So if I'm going to eat 400 calories,
I'm going to eat more than just a one single pop tart. That's not going to fill you. No,
it's crazy that there's that many calories in that size of a meal, right?
I mean, I could write, I'd rather get a, you know, I don't know. Is there an ice cream? Oh, there it is.
Right there ice ice cream pop tart pop tart ice cream. Oh my gosh. Oh, actually,
that the good humor. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, good humor. That's some really good stuff. I've never
dude. They're so good. It's funny. Not not so much the pop tart ones. They're fine. I'm sure,
but the regular good humor bars. Yeah. They got, I think I got strawberry and they got chocolate.
They got, oh, I've had cookie. Yeah, that's a good chocolate before. It's really good. So good.
Yep. Good humor bars. That good humor cream sickle and good humor, you know, now that's worth the calories.
Cream sickle ice cream. Oh, man. Is is top three. Not nowadays, but what are your top three ice cream
flavors? Cream sickle, lime sherbert, mint chocolate chip. Vanilla, orange sherbert, and birthday
cake. Cake batter. Vanilla. Yeah, I like vanilla. I mean, it's good. I'm going to teach like,
I get a vanilla. It's good. I know it's good, but it's top three. I mean, vanilla is good,
but it's like you've got all the world in front of you, all the flavors. I want one like that I
can always go back to you get a good classic, classic, classic, flavors important, but like vanilla is
like five six, vanilla is a staple. It's locked into the top 10. Okay, hard. What locked in? We got
some Rocky road fans. Rocky road. Yeah, I can't go right. You got anybody saying vanilla.
Is anybody in there got vanilla in their top three? It wouldn't be my top three, but a good like
vanilla like milkshake. Stop it. We're talking about top threes. I need to hear other people say in
vanilla. Somebody says cake batter tastes like straight sugar. What is everybody in there's opinion
about TJ picking vanilla. Wolf is liking the vanilla. He's an aptly named.
MTG place cookies and cream mint mint chip and vanilla. 58 music. I rock with vanilla. Brett
canny vanilla is great. Have you had enough yet? I like vanilla. It's in my top 10. You're going to like it
more now. No, you can tell me what French vanilla Mitchell says vanilla is the go.
All right. Anybody saying TJ's crazy. TJ's a crazy man getting out of here. Just no lone wolf would
have been it vanilla in the top three. I can't put it in my top three. TJ. I can do like my top five.
It's hard. If you said you got ice cream, you got a belly. Yeah, that's fine. You're always going to
take it. TJ's like, hey man, my favorite numbers. Zero. Double zero. One.
And 10 and 99. The people are proving you wrong here. I don't agree. I don't
we don't know the whole story. We got a TJ's crazy. It's not top three but top 10 for sure.
Leaning back the other way. No, it's not. One world says no. We love TJ. There you go. That's the other way.
All these people, TJ's family members. What is going on here? Is that what happens when we do
these lives? It's just TJ's family watching. We barely have it. We barely have internet. Yeah.
TJ should be in jail since TJ home for the day.
What do you think about Neapolitan? Someone put that in there. Yeah, I know.
I can't get my grandma to always have it. That's the ice cream she'd have. No.
I would say I do like the idea that I don't have to change. I don't have to go to the
I do like not having to go to the freezer to get the other bucket out. I just got to move the
spoon over an inch to get something different. Somebody said TJ's favorite color is beige.
And the Apolitan's probably really lazy people that are like, man, just put it all on bucket.
Who put the pull up for us is vanilla top 10. We're not debating if it's top 10. Is that you Elijah?
Go Elijah. No, he said top 10 though. We want to know if it's top 30.
Make it is a dude is he's over here. He's over here living his life. Let him do his thing.
He doesn't need any direction.
How about the ice cream sandwich? Let's move on from the flavors to now. We're going to do top three
ice cream treats. All right. Now the ice cream sandwich is an is an oldie and a goodie. Yes.
But it'd be like putting you know, TJ putting vanilla in the top three. I can't go ice cream sandwich
in my top three. Did you get them in school a lot? Yeah. Yeah. And they look
cups of ice cream. Yeah. Simple, good, served purpose, but not my favorite. Did you guys ever
have the shwan man? Oh yeah. There's a lot of it. They drive around and you just deliver ice
cream. Yeah. It's awesome. You know the Klondike bars? Oh yeah. You should have those as a sponsor.
We've had some race car. We had Klondike Klondike Klondikes are awesome. They are awesome,
but damn are they messy? They are. They break up, but it's good. How come they can't figure out a
better way for those things to be to be consumed? Because you take you get the Klondike bar and
you take a bite and now it's just it's busted and it's it's just going to melt in the pieces.
I won't eat ice cream sandwiches anymore because they'll let the freeze open one time and I had
a box of them in there. They don't even melt. And I'm like, I'm not eating that. Oh,
have you tried the Snickers or Twix ice cream bar? I want it. Is there a biscoff ice cream?
That'll change your life of the other Snickers. It'll change your life. I got a complex though about
things that are like I cannot put a brand name candy that's now turned ice cream in my top three.
Like a Reese's ice cream. You're not doing that. I can't because it was candy first.
Yeah. And it doesn't it don't it don't but you know it don't have the it ain't paid the dues.
So it's like a race in the O'Reilly series that just can't. I'm surprised you didn't say.
I'm surprised Reese's wasn't on your list somewhere because you like her. I like Reese's.
But Reese's Reese's is good. Some we just had a classic. They mentioned the Chaco Taco.
Those are good. Yeah. So I would say a good humor bar. The chocolate E clear is in my top three
of ice cream treats. I would also say.
Clondite. No. Wow. Really? No. Because they're too messy. You got it. You're you're
almost in a race against the clock to eat. They melt so fast. I don't like that. Yeah.
You're going to race against the clock with the you are. I always did like when you had the
let's look at some treat. What's that? Hit the red one. The big red square right there in the middle.
Boom. Hit that. Bring that up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What do we got there?
We got a couple of things. The cookie sandwich. The cookie ice cream. I do like that. Yeah. I do too.
Um all the classic uh whatever that thing in the middle top row is. Yeah. What is it?
Like a no top top top middle. The drumstick. Yeah. Like those are. I'm doing the drumstick. Yeah.
Drumsticks in my top three. Yeah. Me too. And I know I said cream sickle.
Flavor is in my three, but the cream sickle. You know frozen ice cream. Can we find a way to get
the sugar lance cream sickle into a adult popsicle? I don't know. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. That'd be
amazing. The chocolate chip cookie sandwich is a is a it's a good one. And that's a good way to
keep the ice cream together. I feel like it's not too much. It's just too much. It is heavy. And
they're putting chocolate chips like from back in the day. I don't remember them putting chocolate
chips or other ones. What are some of the ones we're missing? I'm sure there's some bad-ass
ice cream treats out there that we're not even thinking about. Yeah. What are they saying in the chat?
Yeah. The drumsticks definitely on our top. My top three. Let's go. Images. All right.
Mm-hmm. Oh, a lot of cookies. A lot of cookies. I love that. Hey, I love that drumstick.
What about the bomb pop? It's not ice cream, but what's the bomb pop? The the popsicle?
The red one. Yeah, it's a staple. I mean, it's a staple, but it ain't. Oh, something to chat.
The funstone push pops. Do you remember those? Yeah. You're good. Another race against that. That's
what I was thinking. That things are stripping out the bottom of it. It's pretty messy. Yeah, it is.
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Time for another episode of Dirtymo Doe. This segment brought to you by FanDuel. And Russ is
called in. Good to see Russ. And yeah, pretty good buddy. Tim's is here. Travis, TJ Majors.
Right off the top, man, you did a good job this past weekend. Tying up the, you gave out the name
Chase Elliott is somebody for us to be paying attention to. And he pulls through with the wins.
Tim, you had a bet on him at plus nine hundred to win. Yes, I did. Thank you, Russ. Yes.
Welcome. That's two in a row. Two in a row for the predictor. You told us to avoid
reddick. I don't think that was a big surprise. Reddick has struggled there. He admitted that he
wasn't, you know, too excited about that event. But shout out to the predictor. We'll give the
predictor a hard time. TJ does. TJ does. I think everybody does. I respect. Mostly TJ.
But the predictor got a lot of predictor is pretty bad ass. No cup racing this weekend.
Just trucks. No rally rocking him. Sammy Smith won there last year after I think love was
qualified. Yeah. Yeah. Um, who's the favorite this weekend? Oh, it's got to be your guy.
Algyre. Dale. Two in a row. You know, he was caught up in a wreck there last year. I think
it was running top five towards the end. You know, he's going for three in a row. Junior Motorsports
going for six in a row. It's got to be a junior Motorsports car. I know Jesse Love was really fast
there last year. But um, you guys got it going on this year. Well, right now, this win streak,
the JRM has ever had this one five in a row. Is it the longest all time as Gibbs at six? So
going to title. Oh, wow. Yeah. Man, you coming? I will not be there. I'm going to Texas for each.
Oh, that's right. Yeah. Got to go do the family thing. Uh, but I'll be watching and pulling for our
group. Um, you know, there's, uh, there's no lines out right now. No, it's tough. What do we do?
He's got pick names out of a hat here. Who are some other names? One that's not going to be
towards the very top. But we got to look at Brent Cruz this weekend. He won an arc East race
there last year. Um, he's, he's in Gibbs equipment. I think he's, he's one we have to really
seriously look at for a long shot. Is a Parker Redslaw finished second last year, Russ? Do you see
he's at a good year so far? Good top 10 bet or I mean, he, I cannot bet Parker. I can't bet Parker
because he lost to the computer in our Xbox college football dynasty. Oh, that's tough. That's
bad. Look, that is very nice makers are not very suspect. Does the predictor know about this?
Yeah. Um, maybe he's more focused on the race. Not he can't cover from that. Yeah, you don't
these two weeks. Yeah. You don't. He's probably going to kick our ass tonight in their, um,
leg race. Oh, God. Yeah. The predictor would just say that rocking him. By the way, it's it, uh, no,
it's it. Yeah. Chicago. Oh, it's a Chicago dog going to win. It doesn't matter if it was
rocking him or Chicago or wherever. Yeah. He's having a good year though. So oh, dude, that team is
doing a hell of a job. They are. They really are. Um, for trucks, Cory, he'll be driving the number
one for TriCon. Uh, do we feel as confident about Cory, I'm in a part time schedule as, you know,
he was pretty automatic last year. Where's your guts? Yeah. Yes. Oh, really? No doubt. No doubt.
You can't, you can't be as confident in him because there's no way. Why not? Because you're not.
Well, he might be with a different crew chief. He is. He's with a different truck. He might be
completely, he might be, he won't have five truck truck. He's never been with before. Okay. And
he's been with a quantity that's here. I'm just saying it's not as easy to that continuity is not as
easy when you host of ours going to be racing in the 77 for spire. I feel like host of our
could have a really good weekend. Yeah. I really do. I feel like Carson could have a really good
weekend. I would take the field. I, I really would. I like lane rigs. I think it's a better bit. Yeah.
I like lane too. I like lane rigs. Truck race could be really good. What's the number that you
wouldn't bet Cory high mat? Like, what would you need to see if it's got a plus next to it? I'm
probably betting Cory high to. What do you think the odds are on the field? If you took the field,
I actually think it'll be so it'd probably be high. Then host of our high will probably be like plus
one 50 host of our pie be around plus 300. I actually think lane rigs would be like plus 900.
And I would take that. What about honey cut? Obviously honey cuts on there too. I think he's around
like plus 800 plus 100. I feel like this could be the weekend that he breaks through. Yeah, for
sure. Yeah. Those four. I think it's between those four. It's going to be a pretty interesting.
I, who are some of the dark horses? Maybe you're some of the somebody that could surprise us in the
Arali race. I know we mentioned Parker, but it's a pretty interesting field of cars and drivers.
And you're going to have cleat us out there. What do you think cleat us ends up? What's the
predictor predictor tell us about that? I'll take the over. Do they interview him during the race?
That's a very valid question. I'd say the odds are high, but I love that he's in the race.
Like he tested there did well in the test, right? So I watched the video. He busted his ass
and turned three and saved it. But still like he, I know, but he's been there twice in a truck
and in an Arali car and lost control of the car and the truck each time at some point. And that's
on the racetrack all alone. I just, I know that he can stay in his lane or in his box, but he
doesn't, he's not, he's not familiar with a lot of the arrow situations. He's going to find himself
in and he might drive into a situation aerodynamically that could be problematic. And turn two,
just like it, just like it day tone, right? That was an arrow thing. How he spun that truck out
off the floor. And he didn't realize that was a bad spot, right? Or that that could happen.
And it kind of jump up the bidding. I really feel like turn two is a tough spot of rocking him.
It sneaks up on people. It's a really tight exit late. Yep. So yeah. I agree. The odds are high that
he's maybe getting interviewed before the end of the race. And, um, you know, obviously,
I think we're all happy that he's trying to go do this, but it's, it's going to be a real challenge.
I'm sure some of it's some time he's had probably tons. I think that he's gotten all the prep that
would be necessary and possible. So I feel like the same time that then sometimes missing a
tons of bells whistles. I'm with Russ on the Jerem cars too. I feel like they're going to be really
good there. Yeah. As well. I know, I know Carson likes that place a lot too. And Sammy got
the win there last year. Well, back Corriday. Corriday started to show some, you know, get closer and
closer, ancient further further up that grid. Corriday has put together probably the best two race
streak that I've seen him do at tough places. Yeah. Arguably two of the toughest places that we go.
And he's going to have a fast car. Yeah. Honestly, I like, I like the direction Corriday's heading
in right now as well. Like he's not making the big mistakes. Now he's hanging out racing with
guy. Like he's doing good. Well, that's the Dirty Modo segment brought to you by Fan Duel,
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