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2:05and heart monitors and Apple watches and the science of the future. Chip Kelly was going to change the Eagles as just came in here and said, after we had a conversation yesterday wondering whether NFL players drink and party the night before a game as if it's some sort of stereotype. He came in here and said, do you know that the Rams were sending people to Australia just to test how tired they might be before they decided how to fly over there? I don't think we have any earthly idea at the details involved with how these people prepared to protect their giant win at all costs, business, where the Rams are all in on this season. And they're just sending people to Australia to test how tired they're going to be during a workout after 17 hours of flight. I could guarantee you I have never had a sleep as good as the one Miles Garrett had on that plane to Australia. I was reading about how because it's a charter, they're flying at a different altitude than normal flights and it makes the air easier.

3:08It's going to be so calm and it's going to be warm on the plane. It's not ridiculous. And they're going to sleep like babies. No, it's true. Like what the flu game, like the Jordan flu game, I'm like even in the 90s, Jordan having the flu game is better than I've ever felt ever because of whatever they gave them. 8, 380s have an altitude they fly at and whether it's there's a highway in the sky, whether you're at 38,000 feet, 40,000 feet, 42,000 feet, it's not like they went up to 80,000 feet and somehow that changes because the cabin is pressurized to a certain altitude. They can keep the cabin at 5,000 or 6,000 feet. I read that day, slept like babies. Yeah, up every hour crime. Jet lag is real. Even though yesterday on the show we reported it was a fallacy and bullshit. Mockery. It's definitely not. I've experienced some crazy jet lag when I went from here to Thailand and back. It was terrible. You fall asleep, but like mid day, you're like, I'm exhausted. That's when you went to wet market and Wuhan too. You brought it back with you. Yeah, I'm not bad. I just have a hard time believing that they're able to trick their mind,

4:10that oh, it's this time here, but now I'm staying on West Coast time. That part to me seems difficult. I feel so bad for them. Did you see all the taxes that Matt Saffer has to pay? Oh, yeah. I don't know how he's going to do it. It says, when and how do you decide whether you're going to shave in the morning? I don't shave in the morning. I don't. Like, I'll usually shave the night before. So when and how do you decide whether or not you're going to shave at night? I do like every two days. What's he getting at? Yeah. Oh, I'm just saying bad. No, no, it's just stubble with you. Take some minutes. So you're in between on having real and genuine stubble where you're letting it go and having clean shaving. It's sort of a, you've got a bit of a peach fuzz. And so I'm in a place right now where I'm doing a little more than stubble. That's where I'm at right now. I'm not doing stubble where I shave. Well, because I only use an electric. Are you still going to do that now that day and call it out? Because clearly it doesn't like it. Well, I'll tell you what happened. You made me feel shitty last week, Mike Ryan, because you said it's uncomfortable to see a man clean shaving.

5:12And I was for the most part being clean shaving. So then I grew my beard out for like a week. It was thick. Well, you'll be happy to know that I don't think there's any look set or good on you. Why is it uncomfortable to see a man clean shaving? Like ask him what would that mean? That mean uncomfortable. Like you actually know, no, no, you have to have an immaculate jawline for me to be like, all right, that's that's a good move. No, right. Yeah, it's like, look, sometimes it can work. I think Pat McAfee's had a glow up. Now, I don't know if that's the only thing that's happened. Him shaving, I think he's lost some weight. But he looks better clean shaving. He looks like a completely different person. He's on Cretan. Oh, no, that's not it. So I'm going to place right now, Dan. I'm a little above the stubble. That's my look right now. Okay, glad I asked. This is the Don Lebertar Show with this Tougat Spatcast. Even though he is not here today, a hearty and happy 743rd birthday to Greg Cody.

6:35Happy birthday for me is a time full of love. A present be snowed as I fell from above to make all the world full of glee. Happy birthday from me to me. Happy birthday from me to me. At some point, I have to sit down and make a top 10 list of things that I have proudest of here in the entirety of what it is that we've done. And I think Greg Cody becoming the singing sports writer might crack the top 10 as a career achievement just being able to give that gift to that guy. Because he's the only guy in that lane as the singing sports writer. How did it start? Like, I know that he was on the phone. He would call it. It started on the Sunday morning show that I did on ESPN Radio as an excuse to have him on

7:36in Begoofy. I had to be in my 20s at the time. And he ran out of songs after like 17 of them. Like he couldn't do it anymore. And he did the same thing with that as he does with back in my day, which is I'm out of ideas, but that was fun while it lasted. But he really feels like he could be a professional singer. He has said before, I want people to wonder, am I really good bad singer or really bad good singer? I want to be right on the line. I thought that one was the most catchy song that he's had. The birthday song. He's had some good ones, but I found that one that cracked my top three. He is a he is a funny, excellent, he wrote it. Weirdo. I don't know whether he does any kinds of singing for a writing for himself anymore. Lyrix music. No way. Not an ounce. None of it. No, that's all that's all. It's like, we got a block special. He's like, Rihanna and Elton John. He is like, Rihanna. We wrote this for you. Come in. Yeah. I had a feeling here that I did not think I still had in me, and I really have to thank the Marlins for this,

8:38because you guys have heard me say before that the worst thing that a sports business can have in the emotion business is the indifference of its customer, not the anger of its customer. I'm angry at the Marlins, and I'm angry at the top part of their staff. Yuri and Sandy giving up 29 runs in 25 innings when they needed to catch the Padres. The Padres were not appreciably better than them through 135 games this season. They needed the people, they needed the people, the power people at the top of their rotation to go out there and not shit the bed against the Metz. And Sandy starts this important homestand against the Metz with first pitch out of the park. First pitch, and he's now a guy, and David, maybe you can explain this to me. Why is he now a guy who doesn't strike people out anymore? Well, his velocity number one is not so far superior to others. His movement, Jeremy will have noticed his approach. Is it possible that he is injured and coming back from injury and still not back to what he could be?

9:39The answer is it doesn't matter. He's not a number one. And I think Jeremy will be upset with that because he had pitched so well over so many starts. It was three months of he absolute. That's a half a season of. It was three months of he was a number one. He started the season with an ERA of eight, so he was terrible at the start. But he had three months where you cannot dispute that numerically he was a number one. But you're not a number one if you're only good for half a season. That's the end of that. That's what makes you great. It's the consistency. It's being that all the time. Yeah, he had two stretches this season of 20 scoreless innings. Like he had multiple stretches throughout this year where he's the only guy since 2022 that's had more than one of those. And there's only one other guy who's had one. Where in a season you've had two of those stretches. He was dominant for moments of this season. But right after that crazy stretch at the beginning of the year, he had three or four starts that were total blowups. And now in his last few starts, he's run out of gas. And look, he leads majorly baseball in innings by a pretty decent margin.

10:39He's the only guy on that staff that they let go a third or even a fourth time through the lineup. Deservedly so. But the way he pitched yesterday was wholly disappointing, not as disappointing as Yuri Perez, the start before. Because Yuri's faced Kansas City, Washington in New York in his last three starts where the Marlins needed wins and was really ineffective after being also dominant for two months. Ineffective. You're right, ineffective. When you have a pitching staff and you know that you have an innings limit, that's decided in spring training. You don't change it according to performance because it's a big mistake to do that because you become prisoner of the moment. I don't know what the Marlins have because they're so analytic. Remember they had the lineup this week where none of their power people were playing? They sack riff and stowers. Well, that's they don't hit those guys against lefties. They just don't do it. Which is absolutely ridiculous, but we can talk about that at another moment. You don't like this evolution. Please do. In the sport, right? You don't like the evolution of these guys

11:40are beholden to the probabilities and the numbers. And so they're playing them in a way that changes the entirety of the game. What Jeremy just skipped over right there, most of the starters in the big leagues are not good enough to face a lineup for the third time because of how lineups adjust. The grand majority of starters in the big leagues are no longer good enough to face a lineup the third time through the lineup and have any kind of success. The numbers go through the roof. And so you've got just these distortions in baseball that I don't think that you like because of how people are playing probabilities. They are good enough. It's just that there are people in the bullpen who you could argue are better equipped for that third time through. The problem I always had with major bullpen use is you need more pitchers to not have an off day that day in order to win a game. It's way better to have one pitch or go nine innings than to have four pitchers all be good for nine innings. Yeah, but what they're doing there is simply that they're playing the simple math of by the time the fifth inning rolls around

12:40a new guy facing their lineup for the first time is more probable to get an out than your starter facing them for the third time. That's it's run throughout baseball. That's analytics. What you're saying. But if you're 100% analytics, I am not in favor of that because you are taking away something that matters when you're evaluating players and a game. You're taking away watching players and a game. The Marlins front office, I don't believe they actually watch. They get rid of and I see they're at the game. Good to hear. They're at the game. Jeremy. What is this your mark? What am I? Marlins front office member. They watch. What kind of accusation is that? When you get rid of your pro scouting department, it's not that you're getting rid of pro scouting or advanced scouting. You're getting rid of the people who do it. They're still having scouts. Look at games. You watch them on TV. You enter stuff into your computer and then it gives your advanced scouting report to your coaching staff. This goes back to the very beginning of money ball. I think someone traded for third basement, Eric Hinski, without ever seeing him play. It was just he was just numbers on a sheet.

13:41He had good plate discipline and they hit on that in the minor leagues because he was just simply numbers. They didn't even need to see him play. So he's not that far off, but the Marlins are watching their own players play. Yeah, I'm back in on this segment just because I heard the name Eric Hinski. How about Scott Hattiburg? Oh my god. Hey. Markella's, Marco Scooter out. Money ball is such crap that it makes me insane when people mention it. Just be entertained by a movie and believe it is fake. Oh, you're talking about the movie, not the theory. Jason is removed. It's fantasy. It's literally made up. Yes. You have a problem that they didn't it's made up. They didn't show Zito Hudson, Mulder or delta hot. Don't stop. The delta hot is actually the biggest one. It's just made up. It's funny. It's entertaining. It's Hollywood. But people in the industry believe that that's how it happens. Brad Pitt sits on the phone like that. The way they portrayed out how was just like a bumbley fool. He was a boob. But have you considered Kurt Suzuki?

14:41I have. Have you? And is one year deal? Philip Seymour Hoffman. Do you remember who played how? In money ball? You just said. You literally just said. Did you think about that? Is that how you do trivia? Do you say the answer first? We're on. He was doing Teppery. Who is Philip Seymour Hoffman? I'm still very sad about that. Like we were robbed. You're going to be okay? No. I keep having to feel when people die that we're robbed of what it was. Well, this transition into Barry Melrose I was surprised by my reaction to that yesterday given that we knew he was sick and has struggled with sickness for a while. I was surprised at the how that one hit me in the face. I just got caught off guard. He's 70 years old. And it's precisely because he's reminding me of a golden time in the industry where a big personality introduced me to the wonder and discovery of a sport. Like I was following him and he was teaching me and something inside me there died last night

15:45with him as because that kind of connection. When people get mad at ESPN and wanting ESPN to be better, it's because of that kind of connection. Like that's very rare, okay? In the industry that is as vain and superficial as television for someone to reach through your screen and grab your heart and make a connection that lasts so long that when he passes away at 70 I find myself surprised even though I know he's been sick for a long time. Yeah, I think part of it is also the last time you saw him which was only three years ago. He retired from television. The last time you saw him, he didn't come off as someone who was old and sick. So it's a shock certainly when you hear him pass away and nobody has seen him in the last years which likely means that he was not doing well. But yeah, one of the all-time great personalities not just on television, but when he was a coach too. I mean, I remember him coaching in the Stanley Cup final in 92 for coaching Gretzky. You know, they lost so much at all,

16:45but he was a colorful coach and one of the great personalities on ESPN. Is it the age that bothered you or the fact that he impacted you and if he had been 90, you would have felt the same thing? It was not the age. I wasn't even thinking about the age. I think of Barry Melrose because of what Zaz said there, the personality, okay? The liveliness, literally colorful, the way that he dressed. I think of him as youth. Like I think of him as a time more than a person, a time because I'm discovering, television is opening up a world to me that he's the guide on because I'm like, look at this guy, he's interesting and funny and smart and he's teaching me things that I did not know because he's better than the other people are talking about this. Like his analysis is good. I'm learning more, he's teaching me that, oh, hockey can be entertaining beyond just watching hockey. Like I associate him with, you have to understand, Barry Melrose, let's think about what the time of this was. I'm introduced to hockey in a real way

17:48when the panthers get here. I wasn't paying attention before that. And the biggest personality on hockey television, for me was Barry Melrose. There wasn't, are Don Cherry, right? But that was Canada's guy. No, Barry Melrose is our country's, was our country's Don Cherry. Absolutely, now I know Don Cherry's not necessarily beloved anymore. But Barry Melrose was beloved on television, very, very similar. Are you gonna have that same reaction when Gene Hackman, when he died? Do you have the same reaction? Because you bring them back to when they were younger and when they were more vibrant, like Clint Eastwood, when he dies? You're talking about just death, David. And I'm talking about something different. Gene Hackman, I don't have the relationship with Gene Hackman that I have with Barry Melrose. Like, I personally, I know, I feel, I don't know Barry Melrose. I feel like I have a relationship with Barry Melrose that is based on wonder and discovery on colorful personality. That's not the relationship I had with anybody on my movie screen. Yeah, you're mourning a time more than a person.

18:48I was at a sports bar last night where it flashed on the screens before the NFL game and weren't Miami. You know, like, I didn't see a single piece of Florida Panthers memorabilia at the sports bar and people were gasping and going, everyone knew he was. Yeah, because he was, especially like, when he was at the peak of his powers at ESPN, was it at a time where ESPN did not have the rights. So whenever they talk, hockey, he was the one. That's the other thing, right? I'm consuming all of my sports through ESPN. This is free internet, right? I'm consuming everything I'm getting nationally is on a network that doesn't have the games and isn't covering it particularly well, if not for this guy. He was hockey for ESPN. I wasn't watching it as much as I was listening to the guy on television who was telling me about it. Four minutes at a time. And there's no other sports where that happens to you. It was hockey because you had no experience. If Brent must prefer when he dies, do you have that with him? I have an assortment of these relationships with sports television, a bunch of them,

19:50and only in sports and only in television. It ain't the movies. It's ESPN raised me. ESPN raised a whole bunch of people around here in terms of introducing you locally to what it felt like nationally because they were the only ones at the time doing it. He was one of the guys. If you're talking about the biggest personalities on ESPN, you're talking Patrick and Oberman and Barry Melrose was one of those guys. You might as well have said he was bigger than hockey given what he was doing for hockey. What I said about him representing a time, he was so 90s that he never actually left. Whenever he was on TV, he was still the 90s. His hair was the 90s. So when parts of you go away, when people like that pass, you're not just remembering the man, you're remembering how good your life was back then, how simple everything was, how just seeing his mullet made you happy. David is sitting here making a comp on movies and the composite movies, it's music.

20:52The comp is music. Do you remember when you were in love? Do you remember a time that you were really happy when a song came on? Like that's the connection with Barry Melrose and they're super rare. There aren't that many of them, but they impact you and it's why I was surprised last night at the amount of feeling that came through me when it is that happened. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know what's interesting? We spend a lot of time reading reviews before, well, you know, buy a new TV, pick a restaurant, but when it comes to taking care of ourselves, we don't always do the same thing. That's one of the reasons why people like what BetterHelp is doing. Instead of just telling you people like it, they're showing you. You can visit betterhelp.com slash reviews and see real customer feedback that's updated every day. BetterHelp has an average live therapy session rating of 4.9 out of five based on more than 1.7 million client session reviews. More than six million people have used BetterHelp globally,

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23:56It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Quarevo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it quarevo. Keep it quarevo, baby. Down levitar. I do a three-width break. Why are you talking so slow? I hope I need to win this opener. It's because you can hear yourself. It's kind of awkward. What do you mean? Greg, do you have a pack of my day? A what? Greg Cuddy. I stand behind Greg for not doing back in my days anymore. You all have him singing songs and doing so many ancillary things that is ridiculous, and you know it. Talk faster. What are you talking so slow? I'm talking about my normal speed. This is, uh, yeah, my wife loves this deep, sexy voice. I'll tell you that. There you go. How would you talk to her with it? Yeah, baby.

24:58This is the down levitar show. I wanted to get to the fact that as much as we've been hyperventilating around here about the University of Miami for a week, I am guaranteeing you this week that they are going to get their ass kicked at half time. Like they are just going to get dragged at half time. Everybody who's there is going to watch the University of Miami get thunder struck at half time. Tony, what are you looking at me like that? Dan, the band of the hour. Come on. You got to pump up the band of the hour. This is the band of a lifetime. Is that dude still running at the do that looks like he lives in a nudist colony? Yeah, I don't know. You got to show proper respect to fan views, band. Come on now. Well, I'm happy that we actually get an opportunity to see them. Last few times we've had either Fam you or Bethune in town, they haven't brought their band. Why? There's a cost that goes to it. And you have to pay for them to come.

25:59You kidding me? Dan, I know player safety has been a running storyline in the history of this show. Fam you played like four days ago. They played on Sunday. They haven't left. So I think part of why the bands here is because they opened their season down here and the band just stayed. Lucky enough for us. David, you ever seen with a drum line with Nick Cannon? You ever seen drum line? I'm sorry, I have not. That movie rules. I don't think anyone in this room has seen drum. Tony, you've seen drum line? Yeah, I've seen drum line. And we rules. Maybe it's just me. Not you, Dan. No, I have seen it. It's Stargay, Gene Hackman and Philip Seymour Hoffman before we lost the most. That's what was taken away from us, David. Pablo Torrey is going to join us here in a moment. But I wanted to talk about something here since we were talking about ESPN that happened yesterday with Don Van Notta. Zaz, you want to get people caught up here on what it is that happened with Don Van Notta because I don't want my biases to show on something here, but I do have opinions on something that just happened here.

27:00So interestingly enough, I mentioned a couple days ago. I'm number one when the punishment came down on the Clippers, one of the first things that a lot of people, not just me, thought of us. Man, how did that ESPN story get it so wrong? These are great reporters, Don Van Notta, Ramona Shelburn, Backstreet Holmes. And then even just a couple days ago, it was like, man, it's kind of odd that we haven't heard from anyone, right? And finally yesterday, Don Van Notta, there are some quotes from him from Pucks the Varsity and there are some quotes from Don Van Notta where... He released a 500 word statement. Yeah. And just, you know, like an excerpt here, accuracy is critical. We hold ourselves the highest standard. We believe readers who judge the facts of our August 17 story against the specific, specific release in the report two weeks later will see we accurately reflected the status and direction of the MBA's investigation at the time of publishing.

28:00I don't know. Like, it feels to me like, I don't think you could actually say that. And then two weeks later, they come down with the punishments they did. This is a shocking development that Don did this. It is doubling down on being scooped. It's doubling down by being wrong. And it's doubling down with 500 words that were filled with inaccuracies in a way that would make Mike Ryan laugh until he cries. And I won't repeat what we went through on nothing personal as we went through every single paragraph of his email showing how it was wrong. I will just draw the attention of your audience to the final paragraph, which is the highlight for me. Because two final points are also worth clarifying. Meanwhile, nothing has been worth clarifying because nothing has been clarified because you've been incorrect in each of your previous points. So you're going to do this to every sentence of this. Are you going to read it? Are you going to rebut every sentence? I said to my friends for telling you I would have been done. You wouldn't have been done.

29:01It's three paragraphs. You've got to read there. No, I'm going right to Pablo. I'm trying to get to Pablo's name. Our reporting was in no way a response to or an assessment of earlier reporting on this topic by Pablo Tori or anyone else. That's an important part. So why? Because I think his position is we were well sourced. We were reporting on what we were being told. Now the presentation, I think you can pick a part. But I leave that question for the journalist in there, Dan. Don is Pablo here? No. I know. You're talking to me. Am I wrong? And that's what Don is trying to say. Here is like the reporting was good. We had good sources. The sources just ended up lying to us. I have a lot of theories on what it is that I just read that I will give you in a second. And Pablo will join us 15 minutes from now. But I want to hear the entirety of how the room reacts to the 500 word statement. I want to hear all of your thoughts on just your reaction before I tell you what I think.

30:03I was surprised by it. I think the optics of this are so bad. The NBA came out immediately. And I was kind of in like the DVNs want to pull it to right? He's an incredible reporter. And I think the optics are like people assume he has egg on his face. And so I think anything that he came out with is going to be viewed as defensive. That's not a total capitulation. Anytime I see a statement being made, I'm like, oh, that's not good. Like I'd even have to read it. And I knew I didn't like the look. I mean, he says here, a report of the NBA found no evidence of Steve Bomber funneling money through aspiration to Kauai Leonard. It's not true. It is suspended for a year. Yeah. Well, that's not even it. That's the punishment side. The fact of the matter is that Stephen Bomber owns 99% of the Clippers and the entire 36 page report. Pablo keeps calling it 35 pages. It's actually 36 pages, only three lines on the 36 page. The entire report goes through the exact way that the Clippers funneled money through Kauai Leonard. And that's because the entire report now is he saying Steve Bomber versus Clippers,

31:04well to me, they're synonymous when you're 99% but what is the defense here? Is he saying that we were well sourced? The source is just ended up being lied to us, lying to us because that's also part of reporting. You have to triple vet things like whenever in the limited experience that I have breaking stories, I always have the specter of this person may be lying to me and I have to find other ways of proving this. We spent months making sure when we had the whistleblower complaint, when we had aspiration employees whose voices got modified because in order to go on the record, they would not do it with their voice. We then still needed to get more before ever going to air because of lawyers, because of protecting Dan, protecting us. What ESPN did is they had the Clippers. There is no one else they had. They are claiming in this 500 word essay that they went to NBA for comment. NBA said no. We went to comment all the time to Steve Bomber.

32:04He commented for the first episode and never again. The NBA, we went to Dennis Wong. We went everywhere for comment. That's normal. But the NBA was ready with a statement within 53 minutes of this article being released. Why would they be ready with that statement, which of course came out immediately but not want to respond before it was published? The only explanation is that the NBA knew exactly what was being written because they were in negotiations with the Clippers, which I happen to know about how do we get rid of this case. Oh no, it's not happening now. Go ahead. I just see I come back. I mean, whoa, Roy wasn't listening to you because he was just rolling his eyes at how you were like. He was distracted by Greg Kiddell. Kiddell's off the porch. Greg Kiddell. I was actually looking for this. Oh my god, he knows he happens to know. Come everyone. Come and listen. He happens to know. He happens to know. What do you happen to know? That the Clippers? What's the name? Jeremy, you called him Greg Kiddell. Greg Kiddell is on the mind. Happy birthday, Greg. That's rough down.

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35:07I'm blocking my piss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Quervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it quervo. Keep it quervo, baby. Down lebatar. C'est Josh Koch, sweetie. Chris Cody. Josh Kosello. This is the down lebatar show. I simply happen to know Mike Ryan that the Clippers and the NBA were negotiating a settlement. I happen to know that the Clippers knew exactly what was going to be in the report before the report came out though. They claimed they hadn't seen the report, which is different than not knowing what's in the report. Again, we are parsing words, which is what ESPN was doing in defending its article and it's what is happening in every media market that is just shocking to me in a way it

36:08pulls the prize. A TSP and defending its article was done, but not a defending that actually don't know the answer. I want to hear from Dan. Tell me your thoughts here. What's happening here? I was hoping David would be better on this. Oh man. Oh, no, no, seriously. You know, Don. And you know. So this is, so here's your backstory. Okay. And I think I know what happened here. I don't happen to know though. I think I don't happen to know because I haven't done any reporting on this. I'm just watching it from the outside and watching the all of it. Okay. I can make the argument. I know people don't, the reflex on what I'm about to say is going to be Dan's wrong, but I'm not wrong. Don Van Nott, I might be the best journalist in the history of that company, like in terms of resume. Just resume. In the history of that company, they put their top dog on that story. The one who's rebutting this isn't Ramona. It's not backster. It's this guy because this is his identity. This is who he is. He gets these things right. He reports correctly. He's at the end of the game and everything around him is collapsing, everything.

37:10The media, I'm not sure how much interest ESPN has in actually investigating. I think ESPN just kind of cares about looking like it might be interested in investigating. And so the best journalist in the history of that company just took the biggest embarrassment hit. I've seen him take in his entire career and illustrious career. I believe that he was reporting something from inside what at the time was going to be a bargain settlement the Clippers thought that wouldn't have us ever seeing a 35 page report of any kind, just a summary because the NBA and the Clippers had decided how it is that they were going to do this. And we were never going to find out what we found out in that report. You know, rare it is to get a report of that size with that kind of detail when none of the owners wanted that. None of the owners wanted that out in public. They wanted that to stay in there. Private power rooms. I believe that the reporting of that story made the NBA so pissed off that it made the punishment worse than that that what ESPN reported made it.

38:12So Balmer is ego, whatever the Clippers were doing so pissed off the NBA that they're like, bleep this. You're not going to negotiate. Okay, watch this now. We are tired of sitting here for 11 months and you're denying and you're dying. We got you. Do you want to settle this in private? No, the Clippers say. We're going to take that story that you just released and we're going to get ahead of this story before the NBA does. And I believe the NBA then nuked to them because I believe that story did more damage to the Clippers when they were trying to protect themselves than anything else. But we'll talk to Pablo and we'll find out what he thinks because in the NBA's mind that wasn't an ESPN story was the Clipper story from the first set. It was obviously it was very obvious like what happened there? I'm thinking is all the owners saw really Balmer? Like you're going to try and get out ahead of this by taking our most credible arm and our partner and using their reporters on something where we thought, this is just my thoughts. I don't. Pablo has reported this and Pablo will be able to tell you something that's more factual

39:13than what I'm telling you. David, it's not for a fetched. I mean, the SEC literally cited what Lane Kiffin said off microphone. And that's got to tell you guys again, the NBA did not want to send out a 35 page report. It would have preferred to send out a paragraph. Balmer this, Balmer that this is what we've done. This is the punishment. One paragraph. Nobody ever sees any of this. Pablo never gets what he's gotten here, which is confirmation at every turn. I thought that Pablo was going to have to fight both the NBA and Balmer because I thought the NBA was going to protect Balmer here. I thought that we're going to figure out a way in 11 months how to protect Balmer because none of the owners wanted this out in public. Not a one of them, David. Not a one of them. Balmer has been fighting since day one. So where I think you're wrong on this is that the NBA was aware of Balmer's strategy and he kept doubling down on that strategy. He started denying it with Ramona from the day after our first episode came out and he never wavered from that strategy.

40:14So it's not like the NBA saw the August 17th ESPN article and said, oh, now I'm convinced. Now we're going to go nuclear. I'm not saying that. I'm saying they had all the options available strategically. However, it is the clippers did this and that salvo ended up making everything worse because it was untrue. It's why the statement was ready so far so fast after that, when do you ever see an NBA statement say that story's all wrong within an hour? Never. How about never? It's because they were they were fighting in private and they didn't want that fight to become public. And then the clippers took it public. The clippers took Balmer that I thought that that reporting was what the clippers thought was going to happen based on their conversations with the NBA that everyone was negotiating. Everybody was sabre rattling, but I thought that that story ended up making things worse. We'll ask Pablo, you don't. You think it's a net neutral. You think that that ESPN story had nothing to do with anything. With punishment? I think it's not, he lost a PR battle. I think that Steve Balmer really has miscalculated the PR from the start. I think as Christ's PR guy is ineffective, but that is not what you're asking.

41:19You're asking or maybe I'm mishearing. Do you think the NBA changed its punishment? No, I think they had a series of options ready for whichever way this went. David, they had 11 months. Like this has been a problem. There was no stuff every month. But they had, but they, there was new stuff every month, but they had their investigators getting cooperation with more information than even you guys had. Yes. They, so if they have all of that information and they have 11 months and they are by every account negotiating in private to try and get a settlement on the punishment. And then the clipper say, no punishment. Nope, there's not going to be a punishment. Like you think that the egos, the, the egos of those rich men are like, okay, okay, well, we'll just eat that. Well, this is part of what Don Van Ata pointed out in his statement is what he said is within their article that they said the clippers were not in a space where they wanted to settle on any of it. He, he specifically wrote, we reported that bomber opposed potential league discipline

42:19and was prepared to pursue legal remedies of a negotiated, negotiated resolution couldn't be reached. And so no settlement was ultimately reached. I think what Van Ata is doing as we shift like that direction is saying within the report, technically, a lot of what we said within this article is factual, but the bigger thing is the framing. My larger point here and I just want to pose this question everybody here and somebody give me a good answer on this. I'm telling you that the most, a guy I can make the argument is the most credible journalist that that network has ever had by resume is telling you he's still right. Is he being stubborn and ego rich or does he think as the most credible reporter in the history of ESPN that at the time of his reporting, his people were giving him the right story. He's still arguing that his story technically is right.

43:22Do you think that's ego? Where do you think it's because he thinks he's right? It can't be because he thinks he's right because then he can't be the best journalist that networks him. No, by resume he is. It's not a can't. That's not it. That's it. You can argue it if you want. You can't argue it by resume. Like, who'd you put second place? Go ahead, anybody. Though who would who would you say this is the second best journalist in the history of ESPN? Probably. Tickshap. Yeah. Big dick. Shap guy. So those are the arguments you can make. Yeah. But I'm telling you if that credibility isn't worth enough to buy him anything right now is everyone clowns him. You're wrong. You're wrong. And we know you're wrong. You know why we know you're wrong? Because the NBA released that report, which none of us expected to see. But what do you have to say to the people who go, Dan, Jack Cust? I'm like, what made him so angry that he would use bad words? Oh, no, no, no. I don't like that. No, I don't like it. Jeremy likes it. So that's a. Yeah. No, that's an immediate bad thing for you. No, damn you.

44:23Oh, I hit the wrong button and stop. That's not true. Do you know that Dave A and Kyle Shane, and this is going to see a club analytics are both for or combine for no against the spread in international games. Something's got to give. Something's got to give game tonight. So something's got to give game. Yep. Well, I got a good one here. If we're looking at predictive analysis, hang on. This is a good. All right. So all right. Here we go. This one's for you. You want some action tonight, right? Oh, oh. After last night's game, quarterbacks who did not take a preseason snap have gone under their team total in 35 of 50 games in week one. That's 70% folks. Their passing yardage drops well below the props at a beddouble clip nearly 60%. Guys Brock party did not play in the preseason, but Saford did. Oh, that's it. We're good. It's fairly rare for quarterback in this day and age and how much football has changed. It's almost imperceptible, says the way that football has changed so much that everyone has gotten so good as strategic protection of the football. Then when that when Drake made does something like that, you're like, oh my god, I haven't

45:26seen that in 15 years. When teams, when teams travel internationally with at least a six hour time difference, the under is nine one and one in the first half. Why were you guys laughing so much on nothing personal? Because this is funny because David told me in in no sincerity that you Pablo and David had a meeting. I didn't say Dan. No, that you Pablo and me and had a meeting that we have to be careful about our victory line. Not only that, he said, when I asked him, you're the part he might not have told you is the question I asked him the day after the punishment, David, what's the most interesting thing about the last 24 hours? He said our strategic meeting. He did, he said it's the most interesting, not the biggest punishment in sports. He said our strategic meeting was the most interesting thing about the last 24 hours. Be clear to the audience. This is everybody being judicious with how they want to celebrate the achievement of their

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