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Host: Lucy Jackson & Nikki Westcott
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This is Happy Hour with Lucy and Nikki.
And if you're easily offended, then this might not be for you.
I called Lucy a filter feeder.
I don't know what that means.
So I said, you've got to go out there and like,
be a bit of, like, initiate hunt kind of thing.
Goat or hunt, that sounds so spooky.
To be able to fly on the wall in your house.
I was like, I call it.
I was like, you've got to get out there and like,
like, be the initiator,
whereas she's just a filter feeder,
like an oyster, like, with, like,
bacteria flowing past her, like,
oh, that'll do bacteria.
Oh, that's great.
Cheers, babe.
So I'm going to happy hour with Lucy and Nikki,
the real life shit you're having to discuss over a drink.
But before we start, a little disclaimer.
So today, we are here with our favorite boys,
Jim and George,
to talk about Jim and George.
That sounds kind of cool together, Jim and George.
Yeah, Jim Jackson, George Hunter,
you might know them a familiar face from the party girl tour.
Jim's Lucy's brother, George's Lucy's dog dad.
And George, Jim and I are all very single.
And in different patches of our dating,
just goes to show there's so many different ways
to bloody skin encounters in there.
So many different ways to be single.
So many different ways to approach the apps.
So many different ways to go on dates.
You and George couldn't be more polar opposite
on the way that you'd like to go on dates.
Which you'll find out very soon, guys.
George likes walking dates.
And honestly, the thought of going on a walking date with George.
He took you go to the dog park the other day
because they both have dogs.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
That's nice.
I remember one time he's like,
I'm taking Billy down to the dog beach at Caravan with this girl.
And he's like,
will you like stop using my fricking?
I was like, OK, Billy, stop your eyes.
You poor darling, like literally.
But no, there is so many different ways to date.
And I find everyone's approach to dating so different.
And like we talk about this in the episode.
But I do think on a general consensus,
not speaking on behalf of everyone.
But girls take dating so much more seriously than guys.
Yeah.
Like girls date guys to marry.
Yeah.
Guys date girls to meet new people.
And maybe it ends up being their wife.
I feel like this is why we fucking end up in situations
where girls are so confused because they're like,
well, he was showing all the signs that he likes me.
Then he just ghosted it.
I know.
Because they're just like, oh, yeah.
I'm fucking talking to her for a little bit.
More nonchalant.
You can go into dating.
I'll be thinking obviously the better outcome.
Like the more pressure.
Wow.
I think the more pressure you put on something,
the just more challenging.
Yeah.
Like you just put so much weight on the outcome,
whereas Jim has some really good points about just going into dating
as like you're just meeting a new person.
You're not your person.
It's a nice, it's strange.
I know.
Fuck, it must be nice, Jim.
Bloody hell.
Like how do you not get nervous?
You've gotten so much better though.
Always just have no rejection.
They have such a different level of like rejection sensitivity.
Do you know what I mean?
If I got to a guy and he like kind of gives me nothing,
I'm like, where is like,
George will go up to like 40 goals at a night.
And you know, like, this is not the right thing to say
because we're progressing in our culture as men and women.
But like, do you think that's because nine times out of ten
guys are doing a lot of the asking.
So therefore they are subjected to way more rejection over the years.
Well, definitely over the years.
Yeah.
One hundred percent.
I have exposure therapy for sure.
Although I will say in this more than that.
Is that possible?
No.
That's a pretty fun boss move really, isn't it?
I don't think so.
Actually, recently when I was visiting somewhere,
like I kind of had plans for someone and I was like,
what are you doing later?
And like, it didn't end up coming into fruition.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't say that though.
Like, he definitely had made a plan with each prior.
So it's not like, it's not like I was cold calling a dude.
No.
And then I should ask a guy.
I was going to say, should we try that and just ask a guy out in your hinge?
I've definitely like made a move.
Yeah.
But it was like probably not like a hoodie and go out for a drink.
I probably like kiss someone.
Yeah.
That's hot though.
I reckon, I reckon to ask someone out.
Hey, do you want to come?
Can I pick you up at five o'clock on Friday?
Can I pick you up?
Okay.
What am I?
Does anyone pick you up for dates anymore?
I used to pick up that.
I used to pick up the guy that I was seeing at one stage
because he like lived really close to the office.
So I would just pick him up if we were going for a walk or something.
Yeah, gotcha.
It wasn't because he didn't have a car.
Yeah.
Imagine that.
Imagine if someone just sent you a car.
You can't be there at seven.
We're going for dinner.
That's how you walk.
You should walk.
Yeah.
That's how it would happen in MIC, baby.
Oh.
So I'm watching Love Story at the moment
about JFK Jr.
And I'm just like it.
I'm loving it so far.
I need to watch it.
Really, really loving it.
Like I just swooned.
Baby, I'm grieving a life I never lived.
Oh.
In terms of, like, never got to live in New York City.
Like, she's like a fucking young hottie
that's working at Calvin Klein.
That ends up dating like one of the most eligible bustlers
in New York City.
Oh my god.
It's fucking unbelievable.
That's unreal.
I'm watching it tonight.
Yes.
Watch it.
You're going to love it.
And fun fact, not at all relevant to this.
But we're renovating the office right now
and there's glass bricks in the Calvin Klein office
and in his New York loft apartment.
There's glass bricks.
Oh my god.
Trending, baby.
Anyway, guys, let's get into this episode.
Part one with Jim and George.
Welcome to the room.
Out to your favorite single boy.
Jim and George.
Jim and George.
Which one's which?
Yeah.
Come on.
Oh, Jim.
Come on.
Jim and your damma.
Who's the oldest out of you guys?
I'm the senior.
I've seen your Jim.
I think what I'm 1 year older than you.
Yep.
I'm not just 1 year more experienced.
And you're interrupting hanging out heaps,
like genuinely as friends out side of the post room.
Yeah, genuine friends.
I know.
I'm not a bit of a log triangle
because Jim's in love with my housemate.
And he's in love with his wife.
He's in love with the other day, didn't invite me.
I didn't know that we got it there.
Jim goes second to invite at me over to Pete's turn wine.
Yeah, Saxon did. Honestly, message to the young girls listening. If you're out there,
Saxon Blue, give him a message.
No, that's his real name, isn't it?
Dude, his name is Saxon. No, wait.
Saxon Locke.
Yes, he's the last time, sorry, I got his name wrong.
Oh, don't know that well.
Dude, man, everybody's meal name is blue.
Saxon Blue Locke.
And his last name is Locke.
Saxon Blue Locke.
Saxon Blue Locke.
Yeah.
Oh my god, I'm firing back too.
He's from Byron.
Yeah, he's from Byron Bay.
He's a cat.
Oh my god, if I married him, my name would be Lucy Locke.
Oh, yay, Saxon.
You're back in the butt.
You're back in the mouth.
Yeah, is that a potential thing?
Oh, well, we were having beers the other night.
Yeah.
It was like, no, that day.
It was like me, Lucy, George, and Saxon sitting at a table.
And Lucy's like, oh, yeah,
I couldn't do this with Saxon, man.
And Saxon's like, oh, I'm right here.
I'm like, Lucy, I'm very good at it.
Well, she was like, don't Saxon.
And I'm like, I'm scary for someone like Saxon.
Lucy has to decide if she wants to date them first.
You should have not said anything.
Got Saxon to maybe, I'll follow her back.
Or maybe I'll get into Byron too.
I know, I've got it very, very weird.
Lucy's more like into like guys who like
live in a shed and give themselves tattoos kind of vibe.
Yeah.
Shed living, shall I believe they call that?
These have had the room in here.
We've got Nick who's obviously married with Rafa a baby.
Not married to Rafa, but married with a baby.
And then we've got the three single stoogeons.
In the room, me, Jim and George.
And all three of us are, well, why don't we go around and say
where we're at in like our dating?
And how long have you thought we could settle for quite a while now?
Too long.
Okay, so let's go through and say our current status of singleton.
I'll go first.
Me?
This is like alcoholics anonymous.
Singles anonymous.
I am on app, but not dating.
What are you doing?
That's one of the little creeps.
It's like we know shopping.
Yeah, so I've decided that tonight.
At the restaurant last night, but I got distracted.
I had to do something.
But remember, Jim, I said last night, tonight I'm going to go
and it goes through intentionally scrolls.
All the scrolls.
Anyone I want to talk to, I'm going to say,
this is my Instagram that I'm going to delete the app.
Because I'm wasting time.
Yeah, got char.
I'm scrolling.
I don't even send someone like your Instagram.
It's like a good way to go though, like it.
Talk with you.
I've just talked to someone on the app,
rather than be like, hey, that's just my Instagram.
Just kind of like.
Well, because I just don't want to,
I want to delete the app.
Yeah, I get it.
But I'm getting it.
I don't want more accumulations.
Is your phone number?
What?
Give me your phone number.
No, I'm anti-phone number.
I'm anti-phone number.
Yeah, I'm just starting to only murder us through that.
I'm straved phone number before like,
yeah, my Instagram.
Because your phone book would be crazy.
I've seen some crazy, like, to save names.
I'm like, it's the same name in my phone book.
They're fucking married ones.
And it was sexy Mercedes cash.
Oh, God.
Hey, don't want to know what that was.
Oh, my God.
I was like, ooh, why are you talking about this cash?
Sexy Mercedes cash.
Sexy Mercedes cash.
That was like, fine, really?
My thing is my WhatsApp.
That's my little black book.
Because I get all the contacts from all around the world.
You want to lift here?
You want something else here.
It's when we're international.
Do you know I'm still saying this phone is Lucy tonight?
Not even tonight, sir.
Lucy tonight.
And I was as Lucy swinging from my roof.
Because we mean Tommy met on a big bender and then it's,
she's saved as like Lucy from tonight.
Oh, my God.
Like 10 years later, I've still friends.
She's never updated it.
I have Karina,
in my phone, as Karina always yes.
Because she was pissed when she put it in.
And she was like, you know, people,
it's like, don't, don't answer this.
She's like, always answer this.
Oh, wow.
And then she calls me.
Like, who is this?
Always.
It sounds like off just or something.
Yeah.
Okay, current dating status boys.
You guys are.
Okay.
I've had been single now for probably like four years,
I reckon, but I think so.
It'd be about that.
Yeah, like legitimately,
it's like fully single.
No partner for about four years.
Again, I've had like short term partners in between.
Then and that kind of kind of,
yeah, that was pretty single one.
Yeah, but yeah, I think,
but I think for the last,
like probably six months to a year,
I was more ready to have a partner,
but prior to that, definitely not.
I was just like ripping in.
And having a hell of time.
But then I'm having a lot of fun because you bet.
That was very clear.
That was not confusing for people.
Well, not that I've ever been a girl.
It's interesting.
But I feel like you're very just like,
I'm single.
I'm having fun.
I'll drop you home in the morning.
Yeah, for sure.
And it's actually probably reasoning
the last probably two months
where I'm like, you know what?
That's just slow everything down,
figure it out.
Since I've been around.
Yeah, Jim slowed me down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're taking all the chicks.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Something we've actually realized.
We have very different kind of style.
Taste.
Maybe.
Yeah, different.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Well, I feel like I know George's
and it's got me thinking about what yours is.
I will, okay, let's, let's.
Sorry, George.
So finish off where you're at George.
So you're in some way.
You're like, you're, you're looking.
Looking for love.
Oh, and looking means you're actually just like,
well, I want that.
Like, I'm just ready.
I'm ready.
You're going on dates and stuff, whereas in the past,
you're more of like a root and boot situation.
So your green light is on if we were to talk
to the taxi cab theory.
Correct.
Oh my god.
I went on a date a few days ago,
which the first actual date I've been on in a very long time.
And it was fun.
It was really nice.
You don't have to tell us where you went,
but what, what do you call like a real date?
Like, what did you do?
Like, I think like a one-on-one catch-up for long,
like, and a one-on-one catch-up with someone
that you haven't met.
Voice is probably.
Did you go for dinner?
We didn't go for dinner.
No, we just went for like a walk.
Oh, you like.
But like, again, I don't mind these.
She had a dog.
I've got a dog.
Oh, yeah.
And we just had a dog together.
All weekend, I was like,
can I come get the dog?
Can I come get the dog?
I'm home this weekend.
I want to come get the dog.
I need it to pull this way up.
Oh, my day, all Sunday.
I have to take the dog.
Oh, my day.
I don't see the impersonation of you.
It is so dark.
Anyway.
It's so funny, George, because when we had you
on the podcast last, I don't know why.
Obviously, the podcast has gotten a lot bigger
since we used to have you on all the time.
And we did that TikTok with you.
And all of these girls were like,
y'all didn't tell me George looked like that.
And I think this is the way we would talk about you.
Look, look, look, look, look, look at the dog.
I probably just saw you.
I need to talk to you.
Take care of all your dude.
Oh, yeah.
Look, look, look.
That's what I was like.
Yeah, I like, I just,
yeah, I wanted to know what they thought I looked like.
That's a really nice one.
I was like, wow, George is actually like a massive, yeah.
I was like, do a label.
Thanks, George.
George's light is on and you're like, actually,
are you on apps?
Just got it.
I thought I was talking to Jim after he went to set up
that lunch that day.
Yeah.
Yeah, after me,
me and Saxton were showing George at profile.
So he's like, I'm going to age.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to get again.
I was speaking of him to the other day,
I had a fucking absolute rude awakening
when I was scrolling the standouts
and my brother was in the standouts.
I would like,
I'm the dog co-standouts, baby.
I'm kind of you though.
You look like a boss.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, what about on Lucy made a tic-tic about it?
And all these girls like, what's with that photo?
I'm like, sorry.
Oh, I really like that.
Yeah.
Dude, it's giving Gatsby vibes.
Like, you know, they're not shallons.
Sorry, Queen, I'm in the standouts.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, you're in the regular stream.
I'm in the standouts.
I think I would put Algarine in the pose.
The pose is only Queen.
But in our last night,
I opened my notifications on the engine.
I had a bunch of roses.
And like, the way the engine works is like,
if someone's in the standouts,
the only way you can like them
in the algorithm is by sending them a rose.
And so like, if you can like skip the queue
essentially to get to the top.
Well, you just, you just can't like it.
So you have to use your roses.
It's very cleverly done.
So then you buy roses so you can get the attention of being fine.
Then just making money off your boot.
Be time.
But I got a few roses.
I can, I was like, oh, I got a gym.
Oh, fuck, I got like five or six roses to that.
I wonder if I'm in the standouts because usually that's...
And she was like, let me look.
Yes, you can close.
Scrolls through the standouts
and he goes, you're not.
But every other girl with a big bunter is.
And she's like, I can standouts on the gold clothes.
It's like massive butt.
Massive butt.
Like, one of them even had a face in the photo.
It was just a big butt.
That guy's a just predictable butt like big butt.
So they reckon they know you type.
She's like, you like, I like, I've got a type.
I like girls that look like that.
But then my standouts look like that.
Like, I think mine and gym standouts
more are different.
Can we look at that today on air?
We can't show them,
but like, it'll be interesting for you guys to compare.
Should I go, should I get my phone in check?
Let's go to the end.
Let's go to the end.
Gives all bundes, we'll see.
Yeah.
It was like, you know the time to your type.
Yeah.
Well, they do know your type
because you can feel to buy your type.
What? Like, what?
Isn't it crazy?
It's massive cans.
If you like a few of the same kind of,
because they say to you at the beginning,
like, we're learning your type, kind of thing.
So if you like a certain kind of vibe,
like, say I like, which this isn't my type.
But let's say I like, like,
I think it's the boys that looks like,
like, finance bros.
It'll start, like, filter.
Let's pick up the there, like, in a suit or something like that.
Yeah.
I think it's more, it's less like, oh, man, it's suit.
And more like, like, num, it's like an algorithm.
It's like a numbers game.
It's not like, they're not looking at the content.
They're looking at what's liking the content.
So say, like, 50 girls,
like the same 10 guys in suits,
they're like, grouping that kind of thing together.
I don't know how algorithms work.
But that's how I imagine it works.
Yeah, that's all just made up.
Yeah, I mean, that's all sent to sport.
Don't take it anywhere else.
It's not about suit, though.
Okay, so Jimbo, your next, so I'm on app,
not dating, George's dating, and on app.
What are you at, Jimbo?
I'm same as George, going on a few dates here and there.
Is your green light on?
Because you're about to go back to Canada.
Yeah, maybe orange, is that a light?
Amber, yeah.
Ambience?
Yeah, I would say amber.
Because I've got to go back to Canada for a few months.
So I'm kind of just like trading carefully.
It doesn't really make sense, too.
Get a girlfriend now.
Get to, yeah, unless you want to come to Canada.
Oh, it's so common.
Oh, thank you.
It's so common for people in this,
this is just completely coincidence.
But like, before you go in that big trip,
or you move away or something,
you always fucking meet someone.
What's with that?
Well, that was like me at the beginning of the year,
right before I was about to go and do this,
like Melbourne stint, met someone,
and that couldn't go to Melbourne anyway for work.
But then I was like, oh, it's fine.
Because I've met someone, and now it's like no longer,
and I'm like, oh, fuck.
I'll make a plan to go to Melbourne again,
and I'll like go to the pub and meet someone.
Do you know what I mean?
That's kind of how the world works.
You want to find a boyfriend, make the plan.
You're not seeing the boyfriend in the past.
Hell, no, there were like 19.
And that's how I seen you hook up with that guy at the pub.
Oh, yeah.
And you were like, hold on there.
It was so much.
It was so much going on.
I have so much PDA.
It's actually kind of crazy.
Like I just love, okay, I actually had a realization recently.
You know, like how when people order like,
I mean, just going off of what I've seen on movies and stuff,
like they, like if you contact like a sex worker,
you can like, oh, forward what you want.
I was like, what are we ordering?
We've got on like a sexual encounter.
And like I mean too, because you're paying.
I like every hook up I've ever had,
even if it's just been for one night,
has always been the proper boyfriend experience.
Like I don't just do like really transactional.
Like I, they always sleep over.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Because you don't let them leave.
Yeah, it's okay.
You don't want to leave.
But do you know what I mean?
Like I just can't do the like in and out.
I'm like holding hands.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, like I looked up with someone at a wedding once
and he ended up staying with us like the whole weekend.
And we were like.
We were so fun.
Splitting everything.
I thought of an idea already next.
Literally.
So let's talk about dating in the modern era.
Because it is, I think it's you and me
and the boys are going to have two or a different opinions.
Because I think.
I'm like a girl in the trenches.
Whereas like you boys are like two boys
that get a lot of female attention.
Firstly, you do both get a lot of female attention.
You kill it.
It's not that much.
Nice.
And.
No, we don't.
We do.
We enjoy just like to go out.
Not with a single cheek talks to us.
I just sit at the bar.
But I think.
I'm so sorry.
Like.
Yeah.
Why would you do your DMs where you can pretty much.
If you want someone that night,
you can get someone that night.
And don't disagree with that.
Because I know that to be a fact.
And I'll expose all your secrets if you disagree with that.
Well, you do know you have girls just in your DMs
being like, hey, I'm coming over vibes.
I would say that explicit.
But that's it.
Yeah, definitely for sure.
We're in a privileged position.
Yes.
I think there's definitely by guys that really struggle
and guys that do like really, really well.
And we probably said something in the middle.
What about like, I heard that like on those dating apps,
like 1% or 2% of men get like 90% of the lives.
That yeah.
We were just talking about that in another episode that we did.
Do you remember the actual number?
It's it's like that like.
100% of people are going for 10% of the like 100% of women
are going 10% for 10% of.
Did they give the other side?
Yeah, what a dude.
Yeah, that's cool.
What was it called again?
Hyper, hypergamy.
Have you ever heard that Selon reach out?
Like, you know, I haven't heard a couple.
There's like, and you can see it too.
Like, and you can't say it out loud.
But you can see it.
There's a satellite on a reach.
I fear I'm a reacher.
Because I always like boys that feel a little bit unattainable.
And then any nice boy that tries to pursue me,
I'm like,
not into it.
Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with being that way.
Like, some people are just that way inclined.
And then some people are settlers because they like being like a,
maybe a little bit more dominant and maybe like a little bit more like,
have the person for one over them a little bit.
What do you think you guys are?
Settlers or reaches?
You sound like an asshole if you call yourself a settler.
You sound desperate if you call yourself a reacher.
So we're in between, yeah.
It's in depends on the situation maybe.
I think like partners I've had in the yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, variable.
Yeah, I think I've done both.
I think once you actually in a relationship,
you probably don't think you're either.
No, no, no, no, no, it's like it's kind of like yeah.
I just thought, yeah.
Caughting, yeah.
Like I would say respectfully that you're a settler
because I feel like every boy that has ever liked you,
you're like far superior to.
But then now that you're in a relationship.
I think you're just my best friend.
No, you're just like the girls.
I watch them just you.
Like do you know what I mean?
You definitely don't pursue boys.
They pursue you and you go, okay, I'll pick you.
Whereas like, I have no time to pursue.
Like whereas I don't mean pursuing someone.
I mean, you keep pursuing.
Hey, please come over.
Please.
I mean, I can't, I can't envision that.
I don't care if I attract.
Yeah, that's exactly your, what is that?
I don't mean you're a settler.
Like I don't think you settled being with Oli,
but I think that he pursued you.
It's my line of describing.
Oh, he's a man that knows what he wants.
What should I mean?
No, don't come over.
Hey.
Where did Oli impression that?
That's right, both of us gifts.
Yeah, whereas if someone would do that to me,
unless I already like was like,
yeah, like you changed,
I was like, I'd be like, oh, I don't know.
I don't know, it kind of freaks me out a bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's not to say there's a right or wrong answer.
It's just like how we're wired as like individuals.
Probably why you're married with a baby and I'm in the trenches.
So maybe I need to speak.
In the trenches, do you want like,
when you keep saying in the trenches,
I think like something I've noticed a difference in
how like girls date versus guys date.
So many girls like will go into a date with,
and obviously I can't speak on behalf of a lot of people.
But like we'll be into like,
oh, this guy's got to have this requirement,
this requirement, this requirement.
Whereas just so much nicer to go into like an interaction
with a date or something and treat it like,
as if you're meeting like a new person for the first time.
Yeah, like rather than like a dating,
it's like just meeting someone for the sake of meeting them
rather than there being like the romantic expectation out of it.
Oh, that's right, and you're saying fun.
And then like, just try and enjoy it.
And then like, do you think that's why,
like when you meet someone in the wild and you bond with them,
you have that like electricity moment of being like,
fuck a concept thing, think about that person.
Like that banter was so fun.
There's no pressure on you.
And you're meeting based off purely your banter.
And you're like, like, we get, we got on.
I want to talk to that person more.
It's not like, I'll see six foot two.
You know what I mean?
You can also banter for short games.
But what about, I look, because I was thinking like,
the like dating apps and everything,
like in the face of that, that's how most people are meeting these days.
Like it takes away that kind of warmth or natural thing of friendship.
So if you just, if you go into it with the idea of friendship
and see where it goes from there,
rather than like, you go into things, it's like,
oh my god, he's not six figures or he's not this tall.
It's just like, oh, hey, chill out.
I know, and that's it.
The hard thing about dating, I think, in this
world of like apps and blah, blah, blah.
And Nick, we were actually speaking about it once
with the girls, the single Melbourne Lassie, Alessandra.
And we're talking about how, like, it would be really cool
if there was an event that was anyone could go,
even if you've got partners.
But like, it is like a predominantly like,
you know, single's event,
where you can go and just meet a bunch of other people
without the pressure of being like,
um, you have to like,
have the romantic expectation,
because there's a gazillion people here.
Remember that episode of Sex in the City,
where it's an apartment party in New York,
and everyone has to bring a single friend.
Yes.
That is an eligible, like, an eligible person to date.
So like, someone you would hook your friend up with.
Yes.
Or like, they're pitching nights.
We go and pitch your friends to go, um,
like, hi, everyone.
This is Jim.
He likes long walks on the beach.
He's really good at soccer, you know, whatever.
Specifically.
Oh my god, the kids are lined up already.
All into a single's night with, um, you know,
but, um, and, um, and, yeah,
and it up, looking up,
looking up with this chick,
who had a boyfriend.
Oh,
better,
better,
and a single's night.
Oh, wow.
You really got sold the fake dream nut for that one, didn't you?
Oh,
yeah, well, they're gonna vet the people at singles night,
make sure that's single.
I know.
Yeah, that is sus.
Yeah, I know, but it is,
it dating ups are,
like, okay,
this is my current situation.
So I was off the apps probably over six months,
um,
because I just got really like busy at the end of last year.
And I was like, I just want to be so,
it's like another thing to scroll.
Yeah.
So I was like, I'm super dialed into a party go tour.
And then I met someone at the beginning of this year.
And so I've only just gone back on the apps
for like the last like two weeks.
And I only did it because I was going to Melbourne for work.
Anyway, like, I don't want to sound like an idiot,
but it's been a very like, um,
flattering experience because I've been getting a lot of like,
a lot of people trying to match me,
which is really nice because I sometimes go through phases
where no one wants to match me.
But so it's been a nice,
maraud for the evening.
Well, yeah,
Nick looks, you see the only couch out there.
She got all these roses.
And she's like, well, that's so nice of them to give me that rose.
Oh,
I was like, whoa, Luba.
But I don't know.
You've been three dollars on me.
Sorry.
Yeah, but they might be,
they might have like hinge premium.
I mean, you get 50 or something.
Yeah, well, I just thought it was quite nice.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm not even a real rose.
You were like,
it's given a digital rose.
You get someone's going to send her NFTs.
Oh my god.
That was a phase.
But so basically,
where though I now have gotten
now my problem is,
I'm like,
what do you always speak to Jim?
I was like, too many people trying to like me.
It's too, it's too overwhelming.
And I had a lot of choice.
Yeah.
I had a lot of choice.
I had a lot of choice.
And I'm like, man,
you've, you've,
you've got no options or too many options.
That's too much.
Because like, when there's that many options,
it's almost like, is my guy in there?
But I'm just overwhelmed by like,
can't be fuckers.
There's too many people to look through in.
What about that?
I'm not actually giving people time.
That's what I've recently like changed as well.
Similar thing.
Yeah.
I was like not spending enough time with one person.
I was just going,
talking to heaps of chicks at once.
Why?
Well, you were cast it.
The net was cast wide.
It was cast wide.
And then like, I just kind of like,
it's a tool.
And then like, go ahead a few times.
And then this is when I like,
wasn't probably available.
But didn't like, didn't really get it myself
towards the end of it.
Like, I realized after.
But then I was like,
net was cast very wide.
Talking to a few girls,
then I talked to one and realized that one.
Talked this one for a bit.
Kind of forget about that one.
That one might be a waste for a couple of weeks.
She's going to move on, right?
And I was just like,
moving and I was like,
that's probably not good.
Like, you need to give him the chance to be like,
hey, I doubt you don't like that.
Check that much.
Or like, I do and I need to need to focus.
Yeah, you're kind of like not spending time
really getting someone person.
You're just kind of getting to know everyone.
Yeah, yeah.
I think about every boyfriend I've ever had.
And the only reason why I've actually really liked them
is because it's by dropping a really small town.
So it was kind of like, well, there's two options.
So I'll take one of them.
You know what I mean?
I know what you need to do.
Move back to the bush.
Well, you kind of have like less options.
And therefore you actually foster a romantic connection
that is beyond just surface level chat.
I always use bloody Netflix as an example.
Can sit on that with all day,
not find a single thing.
That's the same thing.
It's like, I'm like, I'm like, oh my god,
you lazy song.
Yeah, and then you go on like,
like, free to air TV or Channel 9.
Oh, you're watching me day movie with commercial.
Yeah, I'm lost in.
I mean, you'll crush a movie on Channel 9,
but Netflix will sit there for hours.
You'll watch anything.
Well, that's what I mean.
That's a great metaphor.
What about the other day, Jim?
Jim just gives us dating like metaphors all the time.
Jim's like, Lucy, I'm a trawler.
What I'm doing is I'm going out there.
No, you're saying that so wrong.
No, no, no.
You're the big brawler.
You like meet one girl might, you know, whatever.
Like you're trying the buffet.
And he's like, Lucy, you're a spear fisherman.
You've got your eye on one prize
and you're getting around just looking for one thing
and one thing only.
There's a million other fish out there.
You've got to feed the nation.
You're just a trawler.
But I'm just there with the pinpointer on one person.
Oh, no.
And half the time I don't even know what fish I'm looking for.
Like, what fish am I looking for?
And does that fish exist?
Yeah.
No, this is what I actually said.
I called Lucy a filter feeder.
I don't know what that means.
So I said, you've got to go out there and like,
be a bit of like initiate hunt kind of thing.
Goat not hunt.
That sounds so spooky.
But to be a fly on the wall in your house.
I was like, I called you.
I was like, you got to get out there and like,
like be the initiator,
whereas she's just a filter feeder.
Like an oyster like with like,
bacteria flowing past her.
Like, oh, that'll do bacteria.
Oh, I feel like there's a lot of bacteria trying to get to you.
And you're like, no, no, no.
Yeah, I did.
At the moment, I feel like I'm just a closed clam.
Close to business.
I'm a closed clam, which is.
Looking out through the frog's life.
What's going on there?
Don't let him in.
Don't let him in.
Close clam.
I'm a closed clam.
No, I'm in my personal glove era.
And I feel really good.
Yeah.
Because I know.
And I think something that you and you boys,
I feel like have this down part.
And I hate comparing men to women,
because it's not always the same.
It is down there to the individual.
But if I was to compare myself even to Jim now,
and let's not even take into account
myself four years ago when I first started dating,
we are like boys take things like
a little bit, not less seriously.
But like, if you go on a date and it's not great,
they can't go whatever.
Like I personally put a lot of pressure on going on a date.
Just because it's like, I don't do it very often.
So when I do do it, I kind of want to go down.
I just kind of need a new friend.
Yeah.
You line yourself up with, though,
is it like dinner days?
Was it more casual ones?
I went earlier on when I said,
I just went for a walk.
You're like, oh, yeah.
But there's no pressure on that.
We went to the dog park.
We walked around for like an hour and a half.
You can make it half an hour if you want.
You can make it two hours if you want to go for longer.
But like, it was just no pressure.
I'm very sure actually.
If you got a dinner and you're sitting down,
you got a five-course meal in your life.
This is like a table of no-boomer, the fucker.
Dude, I think you're like, okay,
you've spent hours getting ready.
You guys, you're doing your makeup,
you're getting dressed, you're going to get herbs there.
You're like, I'll drink it tonight.
I'll be getting you out of here.
What are we doing?
Where's the park?
I'm like, I'm going to be home in a few hours,
and that's chill.
You went well with guys really well for me.
Meanwhile, she's doing that.
Like, how do I do a no-makeup makeup look for the dog, right?
Yeah, I just think,
and I definitely think there's no right or wrong way to date.
And like, while I was shitting on your walking date,
if you want a date like that, then that's great.
I personally wouldn't want to go on a walking date.
Personally.
Why?
I'd much rather just go for drinks.
Maybe I'd just like drinking.
But I so like, it's not that deep dating.
You like, oh yeah, let's do something Saturday night.
That's like premium real estate.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not really good.
Saturday night for the girls.
Thursday night, hey.
Thursday night.
Thursday night.
Even Friday's true, Red Hot, unless you've been on
previous dates and you're like, you deserve a Friday.
But Friday is a great restaurant.
If you're going Friday, if you're going out for drinks,
because like, you don't want to be going to Paloma.
We enjoy doing talk about that.
You can't be going to Paloma on a walk-in.
There's some spots where it's like, well, pretty good spot.
That's like high foot traffic.
It's like you're going to pull on me, you're like,
I'll tell you a lie.
I'll tell you a lie.
That's right.
A lie is, we love a lie is for a first day.
It's for a first day.
You're going to go like, Brody.
I saw Fawzi on a day to pull on me and Ollie were driving past him
and you know, James Street, the traffic so slow
and he's there out the front and we're yelling out,
ooh, it became Fawzi!
And then I noticed someone's walking past him, Fawzi, brother.
Yeah.
And the way it is, like, probably knows his aim.
And I was like, that poor girl that he's just taken
to pull on me.
Oh, see, in particular, it's like the most known person
on the goal coach.
He needs to go to like a bunker for a first day.
Yeah, totally.
You could go to the Arno made borders to Verne.
Yeah.
I've made people there.
Yeah.
I wish we were punter there, though, once.
What do you know?
The made borders to Verne.
Me and Jim went for a beer there, like weeks ago.
Yeah, me and Lucy got a beer there.
I mean, Lucy get the best places in town.
Yeah.
She was like, I'm going to see me with that.
Jim, like, bribes me of an afternoon.
He's like, all right, you've got to finish this task
and then I'm going to go on by a skoon
and he's at the pub.
Yeah.
I was trying to get like Lucy into knock off beers
at the pub and she was like, no, I'm too unorganized.
Yeah.
I was like, oh my god.
What day was it?
Friday.
Back to dating.
So what would your then just standard first date suggestion
be for girls?
Like, oh, would you like to catch up?
What would you suggest?
For me, I like, you need something with like a, like,
I always think you need to be side by side
was looking at something.
Jim took a girl to Dracula's the other day.
Not face to face eye to eye.
Yeah.
Like that's like, like, even if I went like had dinner with like,
like, one of you to you and I sat down there having like,
you know, I look at something.
We ate dinner together like every night.
Yeah.
Watching TV.
Yeah, true.
You're like your sister.
Too much like I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.
You guys, when people look at me and the eyes I go,
I've got to start.
What about if you go out and you're playing cards?
Yeah.
That's fun.
Like, you know, like an activity.
What about you want to know a crazy date?
Yeah.
It's like I just heard that recently,
and I went to, like, you go give soup random.
It's the weirdest data I've probably ever done.
So we went down to this church.
And on the stage, there was four mediums.
And then wearing a crowd of like maybe 20 people.
And the medium goes like, um,
oh, yes, I'm getting the essence of 87-year-old woman.
She loved gardening.
And she loved the AFL.
Does anyone resonate with that.
with that, and then like some old lady back.
Yes, that's my sister.
Like live reading vibes.
Live reading.
Like when David Median does that.
David Median does that.
Yeah, I know.
And I always cry at these videos.
Yeah.
To be honest, it was fun.
Well, early in days, and like, we're both
not taking it seriously, like laughing.
And the one of the medium goes like,
ah, the young couple in the back.
I'm getting that you've been on a trip recently.
Oh, yeah.
And I was like, I barely know this woman.
That's what you say.
Yeah.
But as I get a few notes, you know?
You're dating, like, tears out of your book,
because that sounds like a big deal.
Well, you're barely talking to them, though.
Yeah, but then, I mean, you talk about it after you can talk to me.
Yeah.
And then, you know, yeah, and that's another thing.
It's like, what you girls always say, creating law.
Yeah.
So then you go to like,
gives you something to chat about.
Yeah, and then you go get a drink after
and you're like, oh, how funny was that?
And then, and then you can be like,
oh, and then you can have some inside jokes.
And you just create a bit of a makeshift friendship.
What are you going to do when you talk about
that chick to sponge cake making?
To sponge cake.
No, that's just me.
That's my joke.
That's my crime.
Yeah.
That's my, I walked past this chick at the casino.
Yeah, there she is.
Where are you making a sponge cake?
Oh.
Oh, I'm a super one in my mind.
I'm trying to get me into his roulette.
All right.
And Jim's like, what do you reckon we just like
four foot 200 bucks each and go and blow some coin
and playing roulette?
Yeah.
Like do a bit of fun gambling.
And I'm like, if you just, please don't.
If you just accept, you're going to lose 200 bucks.
Just accept it, done.
Find a ticket to the party.
Go there and then you have so much fun.
I'm so much fun.
Yeah.
And then I also like, you know, when they get Alan
in the hangover and to win all that money,
like all the algorithms going over his face.
That's going to be me channeling Lucy's ADD
into gambling.
Yeah, you think I'm going to start chatting,
you know, I love it.
I said that's Jim the other day.
I was like, is Lucy good at gambling?
He said he goes, I don't know yet, but she might be.
She's going to train us.
At least he's on the phone.
Yeah, my honestly, though, that would be something
that I did like, you know, I've got not many skills,
but they're always nation could be counting cards.
And it's good like you've got it about no phones
at the table, you put your phone away, just gambling.
Something's in really, really nice.
It's really hosting.
It's like, guys, I've really got my screen time down
about the casino nine hours a day and I'm like,
I'm a problematic.
So are you big on the walking day, coffee day, daytime day?
It kind of depends if I talk to a girl
and I start to like, understand her a bit more
because I'm not going to be like, first time a mess
should let's go for a walk.
Like it takes like a little bit.
But then if I can tell like, oh, she would be a girl
that likes to go drinking or she'd let big girl
lots of that, you can like, toss it out pretty quick.
So you're tailoring your date to the girl.
Half a full time.
Yeah.
But like, can you do a running day?
Is that a thing?
Definitely not.
Do I just hear it?
There are so many bars.
So mine would be, doesn't need to be dinner,
but I would like, I reckon a Thursday for me is an ideal,
maybe Wednesday, if I've got absolutely nothing to do
potentially a Friday, and it's like a seven p.m. drink.
Cute.
I feel like if I was single, I would be like,
pick me up.
Is it dinner like?
Oh, if I was?
Spongebob.
Probably.
And a.
I'm kidding.
You're kind of dicing her up.
No.
I was going to say it might be like, because you know, it's true.
Mine would be like, pick me up.
Maybe we'll go to like Costa Taco casual
then we go for a swim together.
Oh, swimming on a full belly.
Swimming on the first date too.
Oh, like you're telling?
I am not getting the rig out on the first day.
Oh yeah, sorry.
I'm a girlfriend girl, aren't I?
Yeah, that's a girlfriend.
That's a girlfriend day, that's a love story.
And then a swim.
Well, swim then a taco, whatever.
Okay, that was true.
But so daytime thing.
Yeah, casual, still doing activities.
Then you get a bit of food, get fed.
Oh, this should be dating advice with Nikki, though.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And you get a 10.
I don't think you know what we should do.
We should do for a future reference
or a bit of a game.
We should do like Nikki write a whole bunch of dates out
in a hat.
And you come out.
I don't know.
I have to do them.
And Lucy.
Oh, no, not me.
But do you know what we do?
It's like when you put them out of a hat,
but you don't do like you do the last month.
So you get to see all of your options that could have been.
Oh, yeah.
And you have to do the last one.
Yeah, no.
Me and my sisters did it for Christmas.
Well, I got my sister's trip.
And we had like, we're like pulling all these things out
of how we contributed three each.
And it's like crocodile hunting in the Northern Territories room.
We're like, oh my God, fun.
Why are you in Tasmania?
Yes, where are we off to?
Fucking Sydney.
I'm going to dream world.
My sister's doing it.
You know what, Sydney?
The Harbour Bridge.
That's pretty cool.
I've been so many times, my sister's like,
I've never been.
That's good.
Okay.
Let's talk about pickup lines on apps,
because I've got some bangers in mind.
I think you will be really good at these.
I'm not really honest.
What are you going with?
Yeah.
No, I had this weird thing where I saw this chick on Instagram
saying like, if they like you, they go to talk first.
And then I was kind of like, yeah.
But you don't talk first.
If they, no, but I don't, I don't send likes.
What are you just saying?
Paul Rodeo, you've been fucking throwing.
Just for seeds.
Just for seeds.
Yeah, just for seeds.
I just see it.
And I just go, oh, cool.
And they don't go into the like, I don't know, I don't know, I just don't.
Okay.
Bloody eligible bachelor.
I don't want to come across this.
I don't want to come across this desperate.
Oh, guys, if you see, you might show you like this.
I like it.
I like it.
Does that mean when you get a like yourself?
You look at it.
You're like, oh, you're sick.
You know you're special.
Okay, guys, here's a couple that are in my inbox.
Here's a couple that are in my inbox.
I hope Iran hasn't intercepted this rocket.
Oh, that is not.
That is not.
That is not.
Is that real?
That was, I was like, honestly, I'm going to hit him.
I'm going to reply and be like, fucking, oh, that's a good one.
You need to say that.
That's one of the best I've ever heard on topic in your inbox.
That's why I'm a little tiny bit of controversy to just, what do we solve?
Did you reply to him?
I'm not.
You did reply.
What do you reply to him?
You did reply.
But I just who can?
Okay.
Next one.
I was walking to go for a swim at the beach.
I was walking past him and like, I've got boobs at the moment because I'm breastfeeding.
And he goes, runs past the surfboard and he goes, weapon.
And I was like, oh, George, I'm the half with boobs live.
Like, you just get fucking unreliable.
What is it?
Like, what makes you think that was even remotely relative to your boobs?
Cause he looked at me and my boobs.
Ah, okay.
Weapon.
I was like, I think you're just meaning the whole package.
For guy, it's a guy that runs past you, like, you save your singer.
If a guy runs past you and he just looks at you and he goes, oh, you're very beautiful,
but then keeps running.
Is that nice or not nice?
If they're hiding, I'd be nice.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's nice.
That's crazy.
I was having a conversation with Bella Clinton the other day actually.
And I was like, some crazy reason I was asking Bella for advice.
But she's just good fun.
Yeah.
And I was asking her about, oh, should I do something like, like, should I do this thing
is not kind of creepy.
And Bella's like, I think you're hot enough for it to be nice, but if you are ugly,
it's creepy.
I was like, well, I'm so happy.
I was like, well, I'm so happy.
I was like, here's another one.
Oh, this has freaked me out a bit.
Is that the Lucy Jackson as I live unbreed and he's wearing a fedora?
No.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
I do it in a fedora.
I exed him, but I was going to screenshot it to send you.
A dude in a fedora said, yes, say to me, that's my wife on a photo of me.
And I was like, oh, wow, what this is shooting.
Do you guys have put in fedoras on their profile to find you, Lucy, just like a message?
No, I think they don't.
I think they don't.
They're just wildly popular.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
A month's too.
That's right, Jim.
I'm honest with you.
Every girl is going to message.
And I've run and stuff.
Just rock it.
Yeah.
The only time you could mix it in.
Let me find that guy, the rocket guy.
Because he's kind of cute.
Okay.
Okay.
This is my other thing too.
I find it really hard to find, even like a good looking guy, attractive until I know them
quite well.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
You're weird on that.
Yeah.
You said that.
I am weird like that.
I'm trying not to be.
You're you like to decide, you're like no one can make my decision for me.
I must decide.
It can be the nicest hottest guy ever, but you, if he likes you, you'll be like absolutely
not until you have decided.
Yeah.
You won't hit.
And it's the trick you really like.
I think that's to your person out you think.
Yeah.
We're going to share it and give you a little time to listen to it.
Yeah, it's old Lucy, there's a trick you're really bad before you start really liking
them.
Oh, I know.
Trita me and keep them keen, there's magic in that sense.
I know I'm trying to work on that, but yeah, I definitely, so in my recent hinging,
that's what we should call it as a hinging, like a sport. Yeah, hinging. I was like,
fuck, I'm really struggling. I was trying. I was in Melbourne the other night on my own,
just like four wines deep, in Fitzroy. It's just feeling fruity. I had my glam done, and I was like,
calling me. Hey, what are you doing? Go on. Yeah. Just like, leave me alone. And so I was like,
come on, Lucy, come on, get myself a little pep truck, come on, don't go on the little day
or something. And I'm there and I'm like, no, no, no, can't be bothered, can't be bothered.
And I was like, fuck, I'm really finding it hard. Like a few boys were like pretty tame right now.
Pretty much like I knew I know that if I had have insinuated that, they were like, what are you
doing tonight? And I was like, I just couldn't bring myself to be keen enough to do that.
And there's only one person in my recent hinging that I would say has cut through enough
for me to bother to talk to them again. You probably a little bit fatigued as well, though.
I like it is effort. I'm tired. Yeah. I think that's fair enough. Have a week off.
Do you mind? Do people ever like follow you and follow you, like go make the transition from
hinge to Instagram and be like, oh, you have like 100,000 followers. Is that a point of talking?
I do think that there would be people that would probably be like, oh, too scary,
especially if they look in like the TikTok other podcast in Instagram and see that where I'm like,
oh, so I went out with this fuck with this one. But no, for the most part, I don't think it is like
a huge deterrent. But I definitely think for some people would be. But do you know what I
do? You just imagine Tammy Embrow. Oh, add me on Instagram. I'm like, oh, cool.
17 million followers. Yeah, 70 million. Like I wonder if many girls that have big profiles like that
if they make private accounts for that purpose. Do you know what I'm like family and friends account?
I think some do like work account and super private account. But do you know what I find interesting,
like even to speak to someone like Tammy, like I think she has to be mindful of like people trying
to date her for popularity. Whereas like I have such a hyper awareness of that. I think if someone
ever gave me one scary of that, I would be like, oh, yuck. You know what I mean? We're some,
like I remember we had had some friends that were a bit younger than us and they were in the like,
I guess, influencer scene. And like their biggest fear was like boys dating them to use them for
clout. And I was like, what are you dating? Feels like those boys just aren't in our circle.
No, yeah. We're going to have to like prompt the like, come on boys, come on the podcast,
they're like, I don't take my eye, but don't make me come on the podcast. Some boys like love it.
I'm like, that just is not my life. Different generation. Tell you what, they're Tammy Ambrell's new
man. Simply gorgeous. I walked past him on the, on the Espanade the other day and I was like, I
noticed him. I was like, wow, that's a really good looking guy. I was thinking like dick to be a
jugga model. Then I saw she post him later. Oh, they have a road past you man today. What are he?
Yeah. But I mean, yeah, I got on Ron's Nikki. Oh, I didn't run. I was walking.
Yeah. He's just a fissure story. She will soon. We'll get her. We'll get her
journey. I don't run. She's a settler. I don't have any tracks.
Reaches run? Settlers. No. We're like, we're getting rid of running. It's almost like it's running.
The running links into chasing. It's quite literally like a metaphor. We're running chasing in your
career. I'm such a stroller. Yeah. It's all about, it's all about like personal accounts though.
Like, it's, I think it's no thing as well. When you like start talking to someone and you get
edits, they're close friends. Oh, yeah. That's the whole thing. That's another. So it's like
this is how it works, especially if you're, especially if they're of the younger generation,
you'll like each other's photo, like back, follow, then a couple of DMs, boom, you're in the
closest. It's pretty wild. Yeah. I only just made my first close friends post ever yesterday. Oh my
god. I might not. Oh, maybe you guys know, you should be. I'm really. I feel like I was
trying to give. I was trying to give, I'll give someone my car when I go to Canada. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I saw that. Oh, you just call a blind. You didn't see the green circle. Oh, yeah,
we're green, baby. Thank god. What an honor it is to be here. I did have three of us
weren't in his close friends. I'm like, I would actually be so demo. I'd be like, what's your problem,
bitch? Okay, boys, I want to ask on the contrary, what are some like stand out lines that a girl
has said to you that you remember? Oh, that's some wild ones. And it's mostly because of you too.
Like, I've had some, I've had some wild ones. I can't remember on top of my head, but I just
remember looking and being like, what the fuck? Are they funny? It's like the way the girls
drive into our podcast. They're fucking hilarious, man. Well, to that, should we pause here, guys,
and say if you want to know some of the crazy ones, the boys have got, you got to listen to part two
because we're about to be out. Let's wrap it up now and keep the boys here for longer. We'll see you
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