Day #22 - T20 World Cup Review | Commbox Live

Hello, welcome to Combox here for the incredible Pakistan Sri Lanka game that in the end

made absolutely no difference at all, and yet at various times felt like the most important

game we were ever watching.

It really was.

I feel a little bit stupid of having believed in this game at all, but for me, I would

say this, if nothing else, there's a lot of people telling me this game was fixed.

If you honestly have now watched that entire game and think it was fixed, cricket's probably

not for you, right?

There's probably something else that you need to watch in your life.

I'm Jared Kimber.

I'm here with Voron Alvaconda as well.

I think Baram's dropping in shortly, or at Wednesday.

I think you just finished finishing up as Lever.

Come on, pro sports.

He'll be.

He'll be coming over.

What a fascinating game because we are sitting here going that Pakistan underscored

by making 212 and yet haven't watched the rest of this tournament, Pakistan massively

overscored Voron by making 212.

It was such a stupid game, Jared.

I think I was telling Baram on his live that this is one of those games that Sri Lanka

the bulldog for 90 or they'll chase this and they knew they did.

You knew this something was like this was going to happen.

I won't point you're like, oh, could Pakistan pull this up and they were like three or

four down and then they were like, okay, games.

My favorite thing about this is how sensitive it is down, I still don't have that.

My favorite thing about this is the two games that Sri Lanka had to bat normally in, right?

They batted as if their ass was lit on fire, right?

And then this one, they went, you know what, actually now that we're out of the tournament,

what if we just knocked the ball around a little bit, maybe take a chance or, okay, that

hasn't worked, we'll pause it and we'll come back later.

That's the batting that we kind of expected in the other two games, but they just came

out and just kept pressing wicked over and over again when they were batting.

Like it's, it was absolutely fascinating all the way through the different things that

happened.

And how many times also it was like, oh, this isn't going to be, this isn't actually going

to be a big game or this isn't that important or Pakistan's going to score so many runs that

Sri Lanka is going to collapse or whatever it may be.

And every way through this game went, no, no, no, we've got one more twist for you.

We're going to drag you back in.

Oh, you think this game's over?

How about some Jew?

No, I think at the 10-0 mark I was thinking, you know, have you seen, like on the TV show,

the flash, there's like something called a speed mirage where like you go so quickly

that like, you know, this looks like this split into two or something like from different

timelines.

It felt like that for me with Sri Lanka.

I'm like, like did they accidentally think like they were batting in the previous games

at the 10-0 mark because it felt like they were chasing 150 and not 230 at one point,

right?

They were batting like they were going for like a target of like 150.

It almost felt so odd.

I suppose, I think what happened is when the Sunker went out and I think they realized

what had happened in the other games, yeah, that they just, because remember, was it,

was both the game, was it, and also the Zimbabwe game, trying to remember back to the Zimbabwe

game as well.

But certainly in the New Zealand game and the England game, they just tried to score,

they tried to score like 200 runs in the power play, right?

And I wonder if when they lost that early wicket and it caused the Sunker, they just said

to themselves, no, no, no, no, this is okay.

Let's just bat like normal human beings for a couple of minutes and see if we can bring

this back and take it from there.

So I don't know.

I mean, maybe we're putting too much analysis on what is, and again, that is almost beyond

analysis at any point, like I'd loved those people who thought it was fixed.

I'd love to know what moments they saw it was fixed in this game because there's about

48 moments that made no sense, whether you were fixing or not fixing, let alone trying

to work out the actual situation of where we were going.

So I thought it was a great, oh, Bayram's here, let's go to the man himself.

Was that a wider?

Was that not a wide?

That was definitely a wide.

I'm not sure what the umpire was thinking over there, but what a wild game of cricket,

like proper roller coaster, right?

Ultimately, Pakistan defeated Sri Lanka by five runs, but I mean, they had an opportunity

to actually, you know, actually qualify for the semis.

I think the death over batting of Pakistan kind of cost them because they were 163 for

no loss and 15 overs.

They should have targeted to 3235, they end up with 212 for eight.

So in the last five overs, Pakistan score 49 runs and lose eight wickets as well.

I thought that was where the game kind of ended because defending 47 on a pitch where there's

going to be due.

That was tough work.

I've seen that a quarter bit before, actually, where the opening partnership goes that long.

The problem is everyone else comes in and just thinks they have to hit a four or a six

every ball, right?

And you just end up losing a bunch of wickets, but you know, they lost what three wickets

in four balls or something at one stage and no one gets in because everyone, like, and

then you stuff up with a batting order and I'm not even saying they made mistakes with

a batting order, but you stuff up with a batting order because guys who've been sitting

there waiting to go in are suddenly not going in.

You've got all these random things happening and that, you know, that for me, you're probably

right.

If they got to 240, which looked on, that would have been really tough for Sri Lanka in

the end.

And maybe the Jews still plays a part, but I just think Sri Lanka would have been out

before they were close enough if that makes sense.

Look, it was a good toss to win for Sri Lanka.

And Darsun Chanaka makes the right call of chasing because there's going to be due in

the second inning.

I thought Pakistan's best chance was to bowl first and then bowl Sri Lanka out for like

120 chase that down in 13 overs.

Perhaps that going to worked out.

What do you make of the seven four formation?

Darsun has stuck to 8-3, then he goes to 9-2, and then he goes to 7-4, which is not

something we've seen in his entire tenure as Pakistan's D20 head coach.

It was wild.

I think in a game like this, when you know that you have to win not just by a little bit,

but by a lot.

I think having extra all rounders and a longer batting order kind of, if your number

nine is making runs in this game, you're probably already screwed, right?

Yeah.

You're not going to win by 80 runs if your number nine has to make 20 of 10.

So I think in that kind of game, it probably makes sense.

And then on the other side, you also need to bowl the team out, right?

Like we didn't know that coming in, but there was always a chance of that being the other

side of it.

So are you more likely to bowl the team out if you have four frontline bowlers rather than

two or three?

Yes.

Yeah.

So I'm pretty okay with all that.

Can I show you one of the spiciest hot takes in our, in our superchats here?

Okay.

Go corner taken quickly, who says call me crazy, but for Hans andnings lost the match,

you can't play 60 balls and score just a hundred runs when you need to win by 65 runs.

Massive fucker carry job.

I don't entirely disagree with him.

No.

I mean, the way of looking at this is is that we were taught about this with Abhishek

Sharma the other day on our piece on Abhishek.

Again with Abhishek, you eventually get a point where you kind of start to slow down

in T20 cricket.

And part of the reason is, it's very different than other formats of cricket, right?

Where you are, you're not, it's not just the balls you hear, it's the balls you miss.

It's a bit like in boxing.

If you're hitting balls, you actually keep your energy up, but when you start to play

and miss it a couple, right, you lose your energy very, very quickly.

And so once you get past 30, 35 balls, it's very, it happens a lot.

If you've been playing a lot of shots, you stop being able to hit the big balls, right?

If anyone's ever watched a heavyweight fight, have a look at the last round when they're

just sort of passing each other because they've just exhausted themselves out, right?

And a similar thing happens with T20 baddies when they're really going for it the way

that he was.

And he was trying to hit them all really hard, really often.

He's got that kind of look right style about his batting where it's very masculine and

like bottom handy and he's trying to over hit every single ball.

And those are the sorts of guys you would think that would affect as well.

The issue here is that you're probably that this comment makes sense, except for the

fact that no one else came in and made it in runs.

So if he goes out, let's say four overs earlier, maybe they make one 90.

I mean, I don't know.

Like it's hard to say that that is the case.

But yeah, probably the argument is if he does go out four overs earlier, maybe the bat

just coming in would think they have the luxury of taking three or four balls to get set

and not think that's going immediately.

I think that's fair.

But I just think this was a wicked once you're in, you could hit on.

And I think that all the way through the game, we saw that, right?

That once you're in, I'm not sure the three or four balls would have mattered in that

situation.

But you're right.

I mean, it could have gone in a very different direction if he'd gone out.

But what are you?

Who's going to retire him?

Do you know what I mean?

Like in that form, it would have been, it would have been the wildest call of all time.

Also if you break down his earnings, right?

If you've been following sides of the France World Cup and you better be because he is

top run scorer.

In fact, he overtook Koli to score the most amount of runs in the same edition of the T20

World Cup ever.

So there's a record.

He scores 100 of 60 today.

His 50 actually is faster than his previous ones today.

He gets to 50 of 32 balls, usually it takes him around 37 balls.

And then, you know, his 100 comes off 59 balls.

Then he's out next delivery.

I think that he ran out of steam a bit.

There's that thing.

I do feel like he was often puffed because he was running pretty hard for his twos today,

usually not a side for Hantheng.

Usually he's a pretty hardy guy.

He's not an elite athlete.

No, he is not.

But then again, another thing that we need to consider over here is that how many times

did we see Sib's other for Hanth, smash the ball to short cover, right?

Like, there were plenty of those balls.

So he didn't make the most of his bad balls either.

And I don't want to completely slag him off because he's been such a star batter for

Pakistan in this tournament.

He scored like almost one over one third of their runs.

And he's the top run scorer of the tournament.

But I can see the logic of how someone would think that that 100 of 60, you know, ultimately

cost Pakistan.

Although I'm with you, Jared.

No one else performed.

Yeah, it's, this isn't like the Dowd Milan 100 in, um, in England, we're trying to pass

500 is it right where everyone made runs and through no fault of his own, Dowd Milan

playing like Dowd Milan stops him making 500 runs.

This is two guys made runs.

And what should have happened is the other nine guys should have combined for another 50

odd runs, which gets them to the total, which probably gets them into the semi final.

And that doesn't happen.

And, and as I said before, I think it was, it's probably a combination.

Of when he went out, it was hard for everyone else to start straight away and everyone felt

the pressure that they had to go straight away.

And sometimes that happens.

It's not that rare.

I like, you know, someone who watches a lot of T20 games.

This is something I see a lot, right, where the openers go absolutely ballistic.

And then it's like, well, surely everyone's got a score and the others just don't.

Right.

So these things happen.

Sri Lanka give Pakistan a fair few opportunities if you think about it.

Like Shana drops fucker on 15.

Then Shanaka had the cotton bowl opportunity to dismiss Farhan on 74 will argue then drops

him in the same over Farhan when he's on 75 plus all the misfields and the overthrow

of Sri Lanka were really, really sloppy in the field.

So Pakistan getting to 212.

There's a bit of element of that poor fielding as well from Sri Lanka.

I feel.

He's not going to speak and he just tries to he tries to wing these things relying on you

and me to speak.

Yes.

That's very true.

Sorry.

Feeling man, honestly, I think you're talking to Jared still.

I mean, there was an element, there was an element there in that period of like, I think

once it got, once it, once they hadn't got a wicket early on, I think Sri Lanka were

a bit like, well, what, what's happening here?

Like, what's the benefit for us in that sort of situation?

And then when the collapse happens later on, you know, they probably put themselves into

a situation where they're like, actually, they haven't scored, they haven't hit us

out of the game now.

Like, we have a chance.

But yeah, there was that period where it felt like there was a misfield every two balls,

right?

And that they weren't stopping it very well.

And, you know, some really key errors that were going on.

But again, and I think this is probably why people were like, oh, the fix is on it.

So this is what happens when you're an elite team and you're in a position where it doesn't

matter.

Like, there's a part of you.

It's just like, what are we even doing anymore?

I'm prudent for you.

He says, cricket play does a bad thing, which they do quite often.

A fans think, is this fixing?

Yeah.

And that says more about the people who were suggesting it than it does anything else.

But the truth is that you do get situations where it's not, it's obviously that was

not a fixed game.

Much of writing that script down because this is how it's going to go.

I know.

And you hand it into someone where guys like, we can't actually replicate this.

This doesn't make any sense.

But there was this one point, Jared, if you remember, Asa Lanka took a catch writing the

boundary and he stepped on the tubular on, right?

And that's the point where on our pro sports like everyone was like, that looks dodgy,

that looks dodgy.

And I was like, yes, that's really poor work.

And it does look dodgy, but Sri Lanka have no benefit over here, either apart from perhaps

getting another game in their whole schedule.

Sometimes cricket, a shit cricket, right?

Yeah.

Also, like imagine them going, Asa Lanka, just when the ball's coming towards the boundary,

if you could take a catch really casually, but then stand on the, like when people say

fixing, like I, I studied this shit for a living, right?

I've been involved with judges, with cricket boards, with any corruption boards.

I have, you know, given testimony, right, on fixing and all sorts of things.

I basically changed the way the BPL was run, right?

In no way could you fix that moment, right?

That's not how you fix moments, right?

The way that you fix things is so different to that.

Yeah, usually also we don't see a lot of match fixing.

No, it's usually spot fixing because that's much easier to control.

And much easier to spot as well, isn't it?

I was going to say it's a really easy thing to see, like on 14.3, we need you to ball a

wide or a new ball, right?

That's very different to, okay, in this specific moment, if there's a catch at long off,

with the ball, that's like 25 meters high in the air, we need you to make sure it goes

to our six.

Who the fuck is predicting that?

Yeah.

And I take Sean at bottle full toss and everyone's like, oh, is it fixed?

And I was like, well, he does ball full toss at some time, but if it was fixed, he would

then ball three, a, well, a fast ball down the leg side to try and get five whites.

Then he ball two more full tosses.

That's how fixing looks, guys.

It does it.

It's not just, it's not just, as Broodby said there, oh, someone has made a bad cricket

moment.

So that must be fixing.

If that was the case, oh, cricket is fixed all the time.

Yeah.

Also, you know, fuckers of mine undoubtedly played the knock for Pakistan.

It was a better knock than for Hans.

He gets to 50 off 27 balls and ultimately ends with 84 or 42.

But he's dropped on 15 by T-Shana.

Things could have been very different if fuckers caught there.

And then he was also caught behind on 46.

They never sent it upstairs.

They didn't take the RS for that one.

So Pakistan has a fair share of luck as well to get to that total.

I wouldn't have given that out if that went upstairs.

That ball was not next to that.

Well, I don't see the exact delivery.

Was it MacRam was absolutely certain that he hit that and he's going, look, you see

the spike and I was like, yes, you also see the massive cap between the ball and the

back, right?

That is the one.

I thought there was a gap there.

Don't get me wrong.

Some of my boys would have given that out.

That's not a book.

My point being is that even in that situation, it was like they were really caught on TV.

They were quite forceful about it.

And I was like, I don't know if I would have given that out.

Well, actually, I know I would not have given that out.

If that had come back up to me, I would have said, the amp I didn't hear anything and

that just looks weird to me, that spike and the ball doesn't see me next to the back.

But yeah, look, Sri Lanka were all over the shop, right?

Yeah.

This is one of those things as well.

When people talk about all this sort of stuff, have people been watching the rest of the

tournament?

Like Sri Lanka have been all over the shop pretty much from the start, right?

They have had such a, we did it in the power rankings where I said, I think I had them

as ninth, right?

And I was like, I actually don't know where to rate this team because they're so weird

because we have the game against Australia in the middle of all this where they look,

you know, brilliant.

But there were times when that game against Australia, it looked like they were going to go

for 400 runs.

Yeah.

Right?

True.

And then there were times where they start to hit and you're like, whoa, look, this team

could be anything.

And next thing you know, they're like five down for 40 or something, right?

They're so bizarre Sri Lanka, right?

And they have been all torn.

Look, stay with their fielding.

There have been games when we were like, oh my god, is this Sri Lanka going to become

a great fielding site again?

And then the next game we're like, oh my god, how many donkeys did they actually have

out there that don't know how to stop a ball?

Yeah.

And even if you look at the batting and things, right?

For the longest time, Pakistan was in this game with a chance to qualify for the semi-spic

Lanka.

We're not doing particularly well.

Yaman Mishara played a bit of a blinder in the power play, which is why they get to 49

for two at the end of the power play, right?

Then they 85 for three at 10.

Oh, was you're still thinking of few more wickets over here?

Things could turn.

Yeah.

On point, they were 101 for five.

And I was like, get right Nike and Pakistan are in business.

Yeah.

Exactly.

But then it's weird how they won 30.

And they basically doubled the score.

And that's cool.

And they basically doubled the score.

Pakistan out.

Then they actually get close to the target.

Yeah.

They scored what?

72 runs for the loss of one wicket in the last five overs to get to 2076.

It was incredible how they nearly won the game from there.

I called the family in when the fifth wicket fell.

And I said, because I think if Pakistan take a wicket here, this could, Pakistan could

win this.

And it could be really, really exciting.

I was right there.

It was going to be really exciting.

But in no way even similar to how I had brought everybody in.

And it was, it was really one of those kinds of games all the way through.

To go back to Pakistan in the first inning as well of, Sri Lanka had bold and a whole

ask full of shit all the way through, right?

And it suddenly at the death, they're like, ah, we've got this.

We understand what we need to do now.

We're just going to nail it.

It's like, you had 16 overs could ball like this, right?

Why wait until now?

It was crazy.

I mean, I was on the live and we were discussing what Pakistan need to do when we did

power play score predictions.

I was like 62.

The other guys were in the high fifties.

Pakistan score 64 for zero.

At the 10 over mug, they're 102 for zero.

And I at that point said after 10 overs, they need 160 and 15.

They were 163 for zero and 15.

They had the score 230 to 240 over here.

And then the death of his batting kind of lets them down.

But then again, all of those new batters, they came out, tried to hit, got out.

The batting order still wasn't all too bad, you know?

They kind of tried to send the right guys at the right time.

It's just that no one came off.

It's one of those things where I think again, it might have been one of the TV commentators

was like, oh, you know, they're getting too funky with the batting order.

And I was like, this is one of those things where you just send out, like I've been in

the dugout when these sorts of things have happened before, right?

You just kind of sent out who you think is going to work in that moment.

Sometimes you, because you can send everyone out.

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We've actually talked quite a lot about the little bits of the game, but we haven't mentioned

all the plays.

Oh, so Bramanya was just saying this, what we were saying, it's like Pakistan is the most

entertaining team in the world of cricket.

It looks like they will restrict them, then it looks like Sri Lanka is going to win at

the end.

Pakistan won the last ball by a third.

Yeah.

I think this is under playing Sri Lanka's part in this, right, because they're just the

same.

What was it that Fidel Fernando used to say that Pakistan gets a lot of credit for things

that Sri Lanka does every day, right, and there was an element of like, in this tournament,

I would say in this tournament, Pakistan has looked like a more thorough professional

team and Sri Lanka have looked like, hey, guys, let's see what we're going to do this

game.

Am I fine now?

It's like that, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think Robin, Baram, what's talking about this before, I think the Super 8 stage, right,

like New Zealand is like the one team you can trust to be like on point every single day

in this group.

Everyone else can either be looked like the best team you've ever seen or looked like

they never played cricket.

And that's kind of what happened.

New Zealand just did that thing and they qualified, whereas every other team has been so high

or low in this group.

It's been, like, it's so random.

And we saw that today, right?

Like Pakistan playing England and Pakistan playing Sri Lanka, which is hilarious for both

teams.

Yeah.

I don't think this comes as this isn't, I don't, I didn't think this is as chaotic overall

as that England Pakistan game was that was super cricket on both innings.

This was just like almost like a second innings domination in some of the stupid cricket,

I want to say.

Yeah.

I mean, look, this was still a roller coaster ride in terms of all the different things

that could have happened.

Like for the longest time, we thought Pakistan would end with the chance of then Sri

Lanka nearly win the game, right?

And like, doesn't Shanaka was one hit away from winning this game for Sri Lanka?

Doesn't turn up for the most part after that 19-1.5 century in the group stages in today

was a 24-ball 50 unbeaten on 76 of 31.

That is the high end of doesn't Shanaka that we got to see today in a T20 game.

So Sri Lanka, I have been equally bizarre, I would say.

Yeah, no, no, I mean, absolutely, absolutely.

And as I said, you get to a position, I think, mentally, where you'll take it that seriously.

And then the openers go nuts, right?

I think that's also another big part of this emotionally.

Like, I'm not saying that Sri Lanka didn't go out to win the game.

I think they did.

It didn't go their way early on.

And then they couldn't get the wicked of the openers.

At a certain point, it's like, and they're appointing at each other and blaming each

other.

And you know, they're not blaming each other just for that mistake.

They're blaming each other for the fact that they're going home early.

It's taught a bit, like it becomes like that.

And also, I mean, we haven't even, we barely mentioned it, but fuck us a mum was absolutely

incredible.

Right?

I mean, I think the other day, Robbie was saying that they had to bring fucker into this

side.

And Voron, quite rightly, was like, but he doesn't make runs in T20 cricket.

This is the exact innings that we all, everyone knows that fuckers among should play like

this, but we've never really seen it consistently in T20 cricket.

And then he's like, oh, okay.

So we're basically out of the tournament here.

I'm just going to drop this in.

Maybe he only plays good cricket for Pakistan in major tournaments, they run when there's

a chance that Pakistan's about to go home like the champion's trophy.

Yeah, look, he is known to be a big match player.

And he even had that Nock vs Australia in the semi-final that they lost in the 2021 T20

World Cup, right?

Yeah.

The champion's trophy 100 versus India.

And that was a phenomenal tournament for him overall, right?

He kicked Ahmad Shahzada, the team like permanently over there.

And over here, I mean, look, fucker is really, really unlucky that Pakistan haven't played

him as an opener in T20 cricket consistently because he's done for the law, done really

well for the Lahore calendars in the PSL.

But in T20s, he's often dropped down and he's been this versatile batter, trying to fit

everyone else in in the top order.

It's been kind of unfortunate today when he ramped Shahnaqa for six.

That was like probably my favorite shot.

It was an incredible Nock, but I still thought Pakistan missed a few tricks with the selection,

right?

So Simon U, Babar Azam and Salman Mirza went out to make way for Naseem Shah, Abraar,

Ahmad and Khwajan Afe.

I think Simon should have played.

You keep that explosive dynamic batter in there who can also bowl a Karim ball just because

like fucker, if Simon comes off, there is a very high ceiling to what you can achieve.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm looking at his numbers here, even as an opener.

Even as an opener, he's underwhelming.

He's been underwhelming as an opener.

He's been underwhelming when he's not an opener.

Like it's remarkable to see a player of his talent with his hitting ability to be averaging

24 and international T20Is with a strike rate of 132 over what?

120 matches.

It's not like it doesn't make any sense.

And then you see him today and you understand why a cricketer like Robby's like, oh, just,

you know, fucker will fix this and he's like, well, he should, but he often doesn't.

And then I just thought he was absolutely brilliant today, the way he went about it.

You talked about the six, was it Leonge, the one that you meant?

Oh, yeah.

It was Leonge who he ramped for six, I believe.

That was incredible because it was 120K's an hour.

That's what this thing would make sense.

Why are you ranting a guy, bully like that, right?

And then the next ball, he plays almost a sweep shot off him, right?

It was, he was so in control of what he was doing.

And they're actually thinking back on it.

They were actually really good decisions because there's no way that Leonge is going to come in

and bowl the soul ball first ball.

So he knows it's going to be pace on not a lot of pace, but pace on.

And then the next ball, he's like, great.

Now all I need to do is get inside it and get it over these two fielders.

I thought that was, it was just genius batting.

Again, where has this been for 119 other games?

Yeah, really, really underwhelming T-20, I record for fucker,

but today he looked like peak fucker and I don't think he's going to play another T-20

World Cup because he's old, but fantastic, 84 or 42.

Two guys who could have gone for this.

We just answered this.

We just answered this from the time who said, why doesn't he always open?

We do think he should open more, but he's also been chipped when he has those.

He's been chipped, right?

Because he's been chipped.

He's the answer, right?

Right.

It was so persistent with Barbara and Rizwan for the longest time.

They could have tried fucker a bit more in that particular era, right?

Like because they were like so short, like stubborn over there

that know these two guys have to open.

But anyway, apart from fucker, there were two other guys

who had ceiling so high.

I thought they could potentially pull off something incredible for Pakistan.

One is, I'm a you who I talked about.

Why the hell have we not seen for him?

I should have in the super eight stage.

He's the reason Pakistan were in the super eights versus that.

Nock versus the Netherlands.

That was a bit of a shocking decision for me.

He's a really good identity that you had to use it.

He could have smashed, right?

He could have smashed peace at the death, you know?

Yeah, but the thing is, right?

Like, I understand why they don't know how to use him.

Because even though he looks like he should be a number seven,

I don't know if I'm a topwater batter.

I wouldn't be that confident if he was at seven.

And his bowling is not really good enough for him

to be a proper number eight all the time.

Like, what do you think about that, Jardis?

That's the way I feel about for him at times.

Yeah, I think there is a bit of that, isn't there?

How many, I'm just, I was actually just trying to have a look at,

as a bold in T20 internationals.

What's he, I'm just trying to have a look at his overall record

in T20 internationals.

So he's got 61 wickets in 85.

I mean, he's hanging around, isn't he?

His figures are actually good overall.

But I think if you're in a game like this,

do we really expect him to help you bowl anyone out?

Right?

And I think that maybe that was the part of it.

But yeah, I think he is one of those players who,

there's teams, there's probably franchise teams

that he fits into perfectly.

He's a little bit like, I was going to say Tim Bresden,

but Tim Bresden is still angry that I made a video about him,

I mentioned that recently.

But Tim Bresden or Sam Karin or those sorts of players

who in some teams don't work at all.

And then other teams are absolutely perfect.

And I think if you are, yeah, I was thinking that as well.

He's probably not quite that because he's a better ball

or not as good a bat, is he?

He's the bowling all round a version of Shibandu Bay, I think.

I would say for him, I'm sure if there's a slightly better version

of Darsen Chharnaka, honestly.

But Darsen Chharnaka can bat in the top seven

and then gives you 5th slash 6th bowling overs, right?

And I think the problem with Ashraf is you probably end up

in a situation where like, do we actually want him

to be one of our five bowlers?

No.

And do we want him to be one of our seven baddies?

No.

And so that's what I mean, that's that.

I'm 0.5 jarred.

He is a 7.5.

Exactly.

And that's what I mean.

I've like, it's, it's like the Sam Karin situation

when Sam Karin was out on the side.

It wasn't actually really Sam Karin's fault.

It was just that he didn't fit into the team at certain point, right?

That's why Sam Karin can make some teams incredible

and make other teams look worse.

So where does he, where do you, would you say he ranks

in the 7.5s of the world?

Like if you put Sam Karin, Marco Janssen,

Corbin Bosch for him.

Ball Webster?

Any take us for?

Ball Webster.

He would throw a chopper tail in there.

Like fuck it.

I think the pro, I think the things with all those other people

you've mentioned though is that almost all of them

are better ballers aren't they?

And I'm more useful at the top level, right?

So I'd have to have a look at his overall career.

I think his overall numbers are fine, right?

But I think once you get to that sort of must-win game situation,

he's probably more of a stock baller at that point.

And we haven't even talked about this,

that Pakistan got completely screwed over by the fact

that because they didn't make those extra 40 runs,

their best baller in this tournament

was turned into absolutely useless, right?

I'm not even sure why they continued to bowl him

because he wasn't going to get a wicked, right?

You know, I'd like to look rattled, absolutely rattled.

It wasn't rattled, I can tell you what it is.

Almost all the time he's bowling,

either the pitches in his favor, which is great,

or he's in a situation where people are trying to hit him

for four to sixes all the time.

He is set up as a bowler for those two situations.

And today, what Sri Lanka did was they went,

well, we're not going to give him,

we're not going to go at him very hard,

we're going to go at everyone else really hard,

so we don't lose wickets off him.

Now, the next step for him is whether he can become

the son of Narayan Rashid Khan,

because the same thing happened to them.

People stopped attacking those two guys, right?

And they became great defensive bowlers on the back end of it.

He just looked a little bit easier to milk.

Hey, but they do attack him today, don't they?

Yeah, I must remember.

I mean, he does call for 43 runs.

Yeah, I wouldn't have said they attacked him.

I think if you go back, what did he go for in the first two overs?

He went for quite a few.

I think the first or was like, well, he's always expensive.

I think, yeah, go back and have a look.

Don't just go on figures.

Go back and have a look.

I could be wrong, but I felt that we just waiting for him, right?

Whereas teams usually come at him.

I see.

Right?

I do think it could also just be their better place to spin.

That's also there.

Yeah, I mean, look,

Spontaric had an off day in on for 43 and four overs.

But Pakistan essentially needed to defeat England to make the semis, right?

And they didn't play a bra versus England.

And a bra generally struggles versus left handed batters today.

He cleans up Mishara with his first ball, lefty.

And one for two and one power play over.

Then comes back and cleans up Asalanka and Kamindu Mendis.

And even though the Kamindu ball just died, right?

That's three bold dismissals versus left handed batters.

Three for 23 overall.

He changed his angle.

He came round the wicket versus the lefties,

which is what he always should be doing.

And he didn't play versus England.

And we all know how much England's struggle versus we had spinners.

So I think that is also a tactical blender.

The box on the stick and we'll make over there.

Yeah, probably, probably they did that pitch was slightly different.

There wasn't it as well.

I thought, and maybe some of this is also wickets.

And you know, there were different parts of it.

But yeah, maybe that was another mistake they made.

They they went all in on the spin until they didn't.

And it probably came back to bite them a little bit.

But I still think he gets England.

They were probably a seamer short.

Fair enough.

And the scene started off quite well today with the back of the hand

slower one, which gets Nissan covered.

When pucks and getting a sonka,

everyone starts to believe, right?

That ball was incredible, by the way,

because I'm not sure coming in.

He was going to bowl the back of hand slow ball there.

And he sees him go away.

That is not an easy ball to do to decide to bowl late.

That's a really hard skill,

because that is one of the hardest balls to bowl in cricket.

Full stop anyway, right?

Yeah.

And to be able to decide, oh, wait, he's moving away here.

And also, that's the right option,

because once you start to move,

one of the reasons that the back of the hand slow ball

works so much is it throws your balance off.

Well, once you're moving,

you're really throwing your balance off a little bit.

I thought that was absolutely genius.

I mean, it means fuck all for the game.

But so many so many things today did.

What did you guys make of Salman Aliara's

captain's yet?

I thought the bowling changes were fine,

but I wasn't too pleased with the field settings.

Like there was no slipper when you needed wickets

and Navas got the outside edge.

It went away for four to the third man.

I mean, I thought he needed to have a solution.

Like we always say this, right?

When you put a slip fuel,

you have to take that from somewhere else,

which means it opens up a boundary option somewhere else.

So it's one of those things where I'm like,

everyone always says this, right?

You see this a lot in test cricket.

It's like,

I will, why is the field so spread?

I'm like,

because otherwise you'd be complaining about too many boundaries.

It's that's why the field is right.

Defending 147 on a pitch that is.

What was the score when that happened?

It was close to a hundred from what I recall.

Yeah, so it was four or five.

95, I think 95, four down for 95, maybe.

If you're asking me at that point,

they got a wicket straight after that as well.

Yeah.

If you're asking me at that point,

I would probably be thinking to myself,

well, they're collapsing here.

And we really need to make sure

that we're in the best position if they start to collapse.

I wouldn't have brought in slips and things

until they were six down.

That probably would have been my moment to do that.

But yeah, it's different captains.

I mean, if that's Karin Pollard,

he's got a leg slip of slip and a silly point in, right?

Like, yeah.

But I've seen lots of captains do that in T20 and not work.

It's the Rob Barron rule, right?

Of when you're in a situation in a game like that,

you want to put the odds in your favor.

I'm not sure if I'm the captain that I slip at that stage

is in my favor,

because I've actually already got them.

That Sri Lanka, we got to keep playing big shots, right?

So your best chance of getting them playing big shots

is that an edge to slip?

Or is it having the field is out on the boundary?

So look, I get it.

I don't think you're wrong, right?

Like, I definitely understand why you're saying it.

But I do think there's an element of,

you know, there are two ways to make that collapse happen.

And one is, you put a slip in,

maybe you bring in a short cover or something as well,

or you even bring an extra field in,

which if I'm captain, I probably do.

But most captains probably think,

no, no, what we need to do at the moment

is keep the pressure on them.

Let them see the scoreboard.

And then when they start to knock it around,

that's when you bring everyone in, right?

And at that stage, they were still going.

Yeah.

Also, the issue is the,

because there's two different targets here.

It's Sri Lanka of playing for the actual target.

Or you were there, I'm saying,

why aren't Pakistan bowling like it's their target?

So it's, there is a bit of a mismatch.

I think what you're saying,

but I'm usually works if,

is it been both things are aligned?

Whereas I think because still both things are so different,

there isn't really a right method.

And well, that's the point.

You're saying you're going to take six wickets for 48 runs,

right?

At that point, roughly,

that's bloody hard to do if you don't have

all your field is out as well, right?

Because it is, it goes opposed to it.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't think there is an actual right answer

or a wrong answer in that situation,

because if they had got the,

if they got the sixth wicket, right?

When they first started hitting,

you know, when they first started hitting sixes,

that first one goes straight up in the air,

right?

They probably would have rolled through Sri Lanka

at that point, right?

And they had a huge chance of winning.

So, you know,

it can go in either direction.

There's no right answers.

There's only Pakistan.

Yeah, true.

And I mean, I can see your logic

and Liana gave went out soon after

anywhere in Nevada is the one who got him.

But Pakistan didn't help themselves in the field either.

We talked about Sri Lanka's feeling,

but Pakistan were quite terrible.

Shadab misses a run out when he has three stumps to aim at,

early on, right?

And it's Shadab.

Shadab can't be supposed to be Pakistan's best ever fielder.

He should be getting that run out.

There were misfields.

Usman Khan could have gotten us asa Lanka

behind the stumps when he was on 12.

There was an edge, but it hit his leg again, tough chance,

but there was still a chance.

Nafe nearly pulled off a screamer

when Asa Lanka was on 24.

There was that.

And then Ratnaike was dropped by Fakhir

when the game was done.

Pakistan had already knocked out.

Ratnaike was on 55.

So maybe that doesn't matter,

but Pakistan needed to be perfect in the field.

In a game where Sri Lanka are set up

to at least knock them out,

even if they aren't set up to chase down to 13.

Let's be honest,

it was a good batting wicket, right?

The chance of you bowling a team out for 148

relies a little bit on Sri Lanka going,

ah, fuck, we're out of the tournament.

And probably relies on an a brass bell

with someone else, right?

It probably needs someone else as well.

And they just need it quite early, Shaheen Likets.

You need it as probably to be on the top of his game.

You need it.

You need one of those two things.

It's only one of those two things.

Yeah, because that is one of those things.

If we remember when I was with Scotland,

we had to win a game by heaps against the Netherlands.

I think this is right.

And yeah, and we have,

and everyone's playing like a dual game in their heads,

and it gets to you a little bit.

But once you get on, once that starts to work

and you realize what you're doing,

like everyone sort of pulls in the one direction,

but there's always a part of you that's like,

well, this is actually really hard.

Like we've got to win this game by 90 runs

or you know, we've got to win this game

by the 12th over or whatever it may be.

It's like, that's, we would never plan

to try and beat a team by this much.

Do you know what I mean?

So it kind of needs to fall into that place naturally,

which it did with the opening partnership,

and it did when Abra was bowling.

And then you need the whole team to go,

oh, okay, we've got this bang.

And unfortunately, that was the bit that was missing there.

Yeah, I mean, look, I'll still maintain

that Pakistan's best chance to go through the semis

is was bowling Sri Lanka cheaply

if they bolt first and then chasing it down

in 12 or 13 overs.

That's usually the best for trying.

That's the way that you usually do it, right?

Yeah, you know, that's a much easier way of handling it.

I mean, Pakistan have been a poor team in this tournament.

They haven't had many good days

because they got swept away by India

and then the England game they should have won.

But today I can't fault them for trying.

They did some good stuff.

Some Sri Lankan performances really go under the radar.

I don't think anyone else is going to be talking about

Dilshan Madhu Shankar.

And he went for 17 runs in his first two power playovers,

but he ends with three for 33.

So the two of us at the death are three first 16,

which is brilliant.

And this is a guy who wasn't even a part of the squad, right?

Sri Lankan have had a billion injuries themselves.

So I think he did really well.

And Shanaka might have gotten

Sri Lanka super close to victory,

but Pavan Dutneyke and Knox Park son out, right?

Like that knock completely kills Pakistan off.

And even though it was what, a 32 ball 15, 58 of 37,

he has had some good knocks in recent times,

although the shot versus England was terrible.

Even though Sri Lanka will be very disappointed

by their display in the Steve 20 World Cup,

there are some players over here to look forward to in the future.

I actually think both of these teams,

not this tournament was way too early for both of them.

I thought that perhaps with the extra spin

and Pakistan being in Sri Lanka,

they could make it, make it better run for it.

I hadn't quite high up the power rankings,

but the pitches actually haven't spun that much since then,

right? They almost spun it weirdly.

They've done the opposite of what ICC tournaments do.

They kind of usually spin more later and they haven't.

So once that spin disappeared, Pakistan's looked a little bit like they are.

A team trying to work out,

I mean, the fact that they've gone in with 7, 4, 8, 3, 9, 2,

that's just right, tells you that that is my concern.

Thinking to himself, we don't really know

what our best version of this is yet.

And it's the same with Sri Lanka,

we taught a little things, right?

When Hassaranga was injured.

And we were like, oh great,

I'll bring in Jeffrey Van der Sey,

who's been bowling against England

and bowling quite well.

Sure he'll come in as well.

No, no, no, no, we're going with another guy

who's basically a club spinner, right?

Like these teams don't really know

what their best sides are at the moment.

They've got younger players who are talented.

There's a lot out there.

But also the fact that they've dropped paparazzi

after bringing him back in.

They brought him in as insurance

and then they decided they didn't want to pay the premiums.

Yeah, I mean, look, he had to be dropped.

They dropped him a bit too late in my opinion.

And his T20, I career at least should be over.

I don't think he fits too much.

Oh my god, if it's not, what has happened?

What, what, what, let's try and write a script

of what would happen to happen next, right?

In order for paparazzi

to play another T20 international.

I often think to myself, are they hell-bent

on the idea that he can be a middle-over spin negotiator

because he hasn't really proved that.

Or is it the pressure of dropping a superstar

because he really hasn't been performing like a superstar?

I don't know what, what quite happened over there.

He shouldn't have played versus England.

Or even, you know, been in the lineup

for the New Zealand game, which he was,

that game never happened.

Yeah, I mean, we did the big feature on it.

And you and I've talked about this a lot.

I understand why Pakistan went with him as a player.

But also, we have given him so many chances to evolve, right?

So, like, there's so many fans saying to me,

Australia should have picked Steve Smith.

And I was like, Steve Smith average is 120,

sorry, average is 24 or something for Australia

at a strike rate of 120, right?

They have had conversations with Steve Smith.

And they have said, we do not want you to play this way.

We want you to play this way.

We want you to do this role.

It's Steve Smith refused to do it.

Then, when he decided he wanted to play in the Olympics,

he's like, oh, I'm going to take T20 seriously, right?

Bob Rossum has had the same kind of conversations.

The only difference I would say is that with Steve Smith,

there is consistency because he's having the same conversations

with the same people over and over again.

Whereas, Bob Rossum's had the revolving clown car

of different people involved in all of this

all the way through, right?

Like, we get that.

But everyone in the world has been saying the same thing,

which is, you are not scoring quick enough.

You are not putting pressure back on.

This is not how T20 cricket is played anymore.

And he has either been unable,

as we've talked about before,

or unwilling to change his game.

I mean, I don't know if he's stubborn

or if he just can't upskill.

I don't know what the correct answer is.

We will never say that.

The issue with what you said, Jared,

is like, well, it's your correct about that.

He's not even done what he's done well before.

Well, this tournament, like, right?

Like, he has had plenty of chances in this tournament

to start by the 50 of 38.

And he would probably win the semi-game.

And he hasn't done that, right?

So it's one of those things.

Shion keeps saying this, right?

Like, Pakistan keep picking him

because they're like, okay, we can use him on a tough pitch.

And a shion's like, well,

is he even good enough to battle on a tough pitch anymore?

Because his test and audio numbers

suggest he's not, right?

In recent times.

So it's like, they're picking him

for to do something in case something goes wrong

and he's not done that well.

And then on a flat pitch,

he's not got the intent to be good consistently either.

So it's one of the...

It's like, that's one of the...

You just hoping he comes good instead of him

actually not coming good.

It's weird.

Well, Heson said that we can't battle him in the power play

because he can't maximize the power play

and there's no point sending him

after the 10-0 mark.

I agree.

So he's good for four overs.

Yeah.

I mean, it's simultaneously

about the high wall of towel and a safe pick

at the same time.

I don't know how they've done that

as old they always do.

Yeah. I mean, look, they did not have much of a clue

of what sort of lineup to go with

because going from 8-3 to 9-2 to 7-4 tells you a story.

They were clearly confused.

And yeah, I really do think that a branch

should have played that England game

because England was the sort of team

who would give a lot of wickets to a branch.

But then again, these things are better said in hindsight.

We'd never thought Shaheen should play the England game.

He ended up...

Yeah, it's like three power play wickets and a four-fer, right?

So...

And I thought he was gonna fall really well today

and then he went the other way, right?

So it's one of those things.

And also, you know, it could just be

that Baba isn't in great form at the moment, right?

Like it's...

I don't know if these are always possible.

I think we're bossed that, Joe.

It's been three years.

No, no, but what I mean is he could...

I mean, what I mean is it might have been three weeks ago.

Right, he's seeing the ball fine.

It gets into the tournament.

He's not seeing the ball well.

Like, I'm just talking about micro little things

that happen to players, right?

You know?

You know, Abhishek Shaheen was making all the runs

and then made all the ducks, right?

You know, it's sometimes that's just what happens to you.

Sky was in the worst form of any Indian player

and then saves them the first time they need

about it to stand up, right?

Like, these things can also happen.

The problem with boroughs armors

that we are talking about a lifetime

of talking about him at this ball.

Yeah.

We've done like multiple features on him,

multiple footmarks on him.

Go check out the previous footmarks

that we did on him, by the way.

The great barbarism goes slow.

I think a lot of that stuff for...

A lot of the conversations that we had

has kind of happened in the tournament, right?

Like, my concerns have definitely come to life.

But anyway, let's move on to the Super Chat Shared.

It's been a while, man.

There are a lot of Super Chat Shared.

Sorry.

Karthik Udaya says, I was told, oh, okay.

Gargi S.D. says,

Babar Shadab, Aagha Shaheen, Aarotee 20, Fakhir,

age is not on his side.

Major overall needed, same for Sri Lanka.

Needs overall, especially bowling.

Overall, I like Sri Lanka's bowling.

Yeah, I like it a long way injured though, that's the thing.

Yeah.

They lost Hassan Ranga, Patirana.

Yeah, if they had a fully...

Who saw men this towards the end?

Yeah, if they had a fully fit bowling and line-up,

I would actually, you know,

and I'm not sure if they've had one for a tournament

since they've started putting the good balls together.

They won that Asia Cup with a good bowling line-up

and we've almost never seen them have

a fully functioning bowling line-up since.

I definitely wouldn't be throwing out Shadab,

Aagha or Shaheen based on, like,

but I also wouldn't be playing them all the time.

I'd be, you know, looking at other players

and everything else,

but those are not three players that you would get rid of.

Babar, obviously, and Fakhir again,

like just because of his age is probably a bigger one there.

But no, no, I don't think there's major overhaul needed.

I think that there are sides in development

without the talent that they need at the moment.

And, like, you know, getting rid of...

Yeah, I think Australia at the moment,

if Shadab can't was suddenly available

and there was a trade market, right?

Australia would be like, yep, we'll take him,

like, in a heartbeat.

That's the kind of cricketer

that a lot of other teams would like to have.

I think, I'm South Africa with, like,

a Shadab as well, right?

Yeah. I mean, Fox Irvine over here says,

last worker for Fakhir, can we call Fakhir Clutch King

of Pakistan for the last decade, at least?

Fixed a claim as our enchambles,

Reddit had gone bonkers.

I mean, our chat in the pro sports lab

had also gone bonkers.

I put up a tweet.

Do you remember when they showed the footage

of their big, the lights?

And they were all the bugs around it?

And, like, they did like a zoom out

and it looked exactly like the upside down

and stranger things.

I put out a tweet about that

and everyone thought it was about Fixie.

I was like, wow.

Guys, it's just a visual.

Well, what is wrong with you all?

Ross Taylor couldn't see at night

or when the clouds were in.

Eventually, you had to see an eye specialist

who would fix his eyes up.

In the two years before the change,

he's still average, more than 50 in international critic.

The top level of batting talent

can basically see in the dark.

That is who we are talking about in our new book,

The Art of Batting.

Head over and order your copy today.

Yeah, classic cricket fans.

Look, fuck her.

Probably, yes.

Last T20 World Cup for him, just because he's old.

Power is also done.

Shaheen, I think, should just rest for a bit, right?

He's also ODI Captain.

I don't know if he should play many T20s.

He doesn't know if he's ODI Captain though.

What time in the day is it?

He might have just lost it

and he'll get it back in five minutes.

Shadab and Salman Aliara,

let's see what sort of PSLs they have, right?

We'll see more of these players

in the Pakistan Super League

and then we'd probably be closer

to what Pakistan's new and refurbished team

should look like in the next cycle.

There is this one kid,

Masad Aketh was really exciting.

I think he would probably get in a shout.

All right.

Vibhur said, says,

at his best, how quickly can Farhan score a century?

Late 50s, right?

57, 58, 59.

That's probably the best he can do.

He's shown us that.

He scored 200s in this tournament alone

and one was off 58 balls.

Today it was 59 balls,

so oddly similar in that regard.

Yeah, he's, as I said before,

he's, I mean, it'd be great to get someone like Robbie

to talk about his technique.

For me, he's got that kind of,

he's really trying to hit the ball very hard,

which means he kind of strangles the ball sometimes.

And so that's why when he muscles it

and it gets in the middle of the back, it disappears,

but he miss hits an incredible,

he's got brilliant hand-eye coordination,

but there's something about his technique.

As I said, the player that reminded me of the most

was Luke Wright,

where I don't think Luke Wright was as good a batter overall,

and Luke Wright was probably a little bit stronger

and a little bit fitter,

but that same kind of guy of like,

it was actually painful to watch them at certain points.

He was like, oh my God, that my wife,

Miriam hates Luke Wright.

And she doesn't know anything about technique,

but what she's picking up on is that thing of him trying

to like grind the bat into like dust in his hands.

And I think that Fahran has a similar kind of element to that.

Fahran is Luke Wright and Ross Adir's crossover.

Because the bottom hand is very similar.

Yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't,

the only reason I didn't compare him to Ross Adir

is that Ross Adir is not actually a cricketer.

He's a rugby player who holds a club.

Well, let's see if there's a Fahran documentary

after top scoring at the World Cup,

because he did make one after he hit Boom Ruffer Sixes.

I don't know if Jindal with the Super Chat says,

what is the deal with Sri Lanka?

Yes, their star bowlers were injured,

not dead shout out to Rob,

but they're not as bad as losing their last four matches.

Is it talent or administration or management?

Look, they're the same in my belief

that really has to bowl you out quite cheaply.

And what they've been doing in this tournament

is actually getting themselves into good positions

with the ball.

Today was not a good example of that.

And then, but they don't bowl attacking.

They're so defensive with the bowling

and you can't allow players to do that.

You can't hold many of the top teams down for scoring, right?

They're just not the way the teams play anymore, right?

And so you have to keep taking wickets.

And so several times in this tournament,

I thought Sri Lanka just stopped trying to take wickets

and that caused a lot of problems for them

because they don't have a batting line up

that can bat you out of games, right?

So you have to keep going.

To reliant on Partham Nassanka and Kusal Mendis

and that's never a big risk of success.

Was it the England game in the West?

Did they play the West Indies?

I'm trying to run away.

They did not play the West Indies, no.

They had the England game, the New Zealand game,

they botched both games.

In fact, they had New Zealand at 84s.

They lost some ball with.

So they only defeated Australia.

What did they have in England?

Did they have England early wickets?

They had wickets throughout that innings,

the English innings in England,

probably did a bit better in the end to get to 147.

They should have won that game.

That's when they did it all week.

Yeah, they had, they were all over them with the ball, right?

In that game, they should have pulled them out for 100

and they didn't try to pull them out for 100.

And I think that looking at the way their team sets up,

that's what they should be trying to do.

Also, they battled like idiots

versus England and New Zealand.

Yep, so.

S-Vish Voss once, his last five overs

were Dawson Chanukas brilliance

for Pakistan's resignation.

I think the batters were too new at the crease,

they knew they had to whack it

and they just kept going out.

Yeah, there was a bit of that.

There was a couple of balls.

It is one of the situations we get really excited

when the people hit lots of successes,

but there was a couple that looked like

they could have gone straight up in the air

and didn't go that far over the boundary.

Also, I think Pakistan had to have an emotional reaction

to the fact that they knew they were out of the World Cup.

You're not trying as hard once you know out,

you're out of the World Cup.

And then the third thing was,

there was clearly due by that point, right?

The ball just wasn't coming out of their hands as well.

I thought Vish Voss was asking about

the first inning's last five overs

because that's where I feel like Bucks

and lost the game.

They needed two, 30 to 240.

Oh, I know, I thought he was talking about the other day.

Yeah, he is talking about Chanukas.

Yeah, Bucks and everybody.

Yeah, but Chanukas, he's so frustrating

because he can do this, but it's so infrequent.

Yeah, Pakistan had just resigned

as soon as Sri Lanka got 148.

You could see it in their body language they had given up.

Suri Pruy says,

four run outs missed in Pakistan,

not Pakistan for a day.

Yeah, they did miss an awful lot of run outs, man.

And the Shadab one really should have been a run out.

That's the guy to get you a run out.

Yeah, three stunts made that.

Yeah, as we said before, again,

these are the sorts of things that,

if you put that together with Abrah's bowling,

you have a chance and they didn't put this together,

but they had chances.

They didn't take them.

There's a four run outs are four directed.

So it was the same thing.

Because don't miss,

I feel like teams miss a lot of directeds anyway, don't they?

Yeah, but that one, yeah, it was a different one.

It was too cool.

At a certain point though,

if you're trying to pull the team out for 40 less than par,

you kind of have to get the direct hits far in.

That's true.

That's very true.

Fair enough.

Okay, what's next?

We've got Jack Jack who says,

which had been a tie super over in a dead rubber

would have been hilariously amazing.

New Zealand do a Pakistan get themselves

some nifty kudrithkan is I'm going.

No, I think New Zealand are just the better team, man.

You've got to give it to them.

I think they're just a better.

The early storm even seem, I think.

Yeah, I'm both consistent, but even I'm better.

Yeah, you know what expect with New Zealand,

you don't know what to expect with Pakistan,

but those sort of teams are also fun.

England is one of those teams like Pakistan.

The average is higher than Pakistan,

and the standard deviation is lower.

Yes.

There's a certain explain it essentially.

Jared, can you say this phrase?

So I've always struggled with this one,

and I think it's something to do with the dyslexia.

Also, don't like the little queue

just as a personal point.

What's my last name?

What's my last name?

You can think of it as king.

Your last name is Logan.

But it's a quadrat carton is arm.

Is that right?

No, if you think it's easier for you to think of it

as a key and sort of a queue, I think.

No, so that's the issue I have, because I know it's a K, right?

But once someone tells me it's a K, I don't read it as a K.

I think to myself, wait, QK, QK?

K? Is it Q?

Do I set it like Q?

That's the problem I have with the kind of thing you're having.

Someone's I could not cut as I'm with the K in the shot.

I'll put it up.

How do you pronounce Quentin de Gogh's name

if you've got these issues, dude?

Do many queues, do many queues?

So the queue in Quentin, right?

Is it different than the queue in this?

And that's the problem I have.

Don't give it.

You don't want to get into my mind about why some woods

work for me and why they don't.

Because these give for a job.

That's actually a nail harder.

But I've never, I've never actually, like,

if I can't tell Christy from Kirsty and people

think I'm going to do, like, like, literally,

how am I going to do with any other language?

I actually, now that I come to think of it,

I don't think Jared has ever taken my last name.

He's just always called me Baron.

No, no, no, I used to call you in a name when we first started.

No, for sure.

I don't always do last names because I, like,

like, I had to do Varen's today.

And I almost stuffed up with Varen's.

And I do it with other people's as well.

I don't say Robbie's last name.

I don't always say Rob Barron's last name, right?

But when I say Rob Barron,

now I now try and do it in one thing.

Because I know this sounds weird,

but the more details I have to think of,

the more chance I'm going to fuck up.

And if I fuck up a white person's name,

no one gives a shit.

Right?

But if I fuck up anyone who's not white,

everyone's like, oh, he can't pronounce that person's name.

It's like, I had nothing to do with that.

It's just because I'm trying to keep five things

in my head for the intro, right?

And so it's easier for me not to have to do that.

It's the same as, there was a great moment

on the BBC the other day,

where Henry Moran was trying to do mass on air, right?

And he was trying to work somebody out.

And I've done commentary for years.

There are people who can do mass while they commentate

without even taking a beat.

Dan Norcross is the king of this, right?

And you know, Jim Maxwell,

I think it was another one that was really good at this.

And there are people like me

that if you ask me to do mass on air, right?

You might as well ask me to like knit your sweater.

Like there's no chance I'm going to be able to do it.

And yet, I'm brilliant at massing any other situation.

But it's the way that these things work.

Anyway, Quadrat, a film in there.

No, I was going to make a quidditch joke then.

I fucked it up.

Quadrat in the quidditch.

How about this, Jared?

Oh, my God.

That might have fucked up his name forever for me.

You're trying to break him, guys.

No, it's pretty easy to do.

Give me the other super-judge.

I'll pull up the next shot, yeah.

Yeah.

And 43059 says, DRS for wide question mark,

this could happen in a World Cup final.

I do like that rule from the IPL, actually.

Yeah, absolutely nonsense that we're not using that everywhere.

I think someone did it before the IPL, I want to say.

But I remember talking to this with the big bash guys.

You used to go, I was just like, there's just no reason

not to do it, right?

Like it's a bit, when I used to complain about the no balls.

Remember when the umpires just stopped calling no balls?

And then we only checked them when there was a wicket.

And I was like, that is the stupidest thing ever.

You have a camera, just look at it.

And I'll be told by TV directors,

you don't know how hard this is.

And I went, well, it can't be that fucking hard

because you show it afterwards, right?

And now it's the tram lanes, Jared.

There was extra tram lanes for the leg side wide,

which they removed.

I don't get me started on that.

This tournament's been really weird from that sort of stuff.

But yeah, you have a perfect example here,

where a ball is bowled and we can't look at it again

despite the fact that we can actually see it, right?

And I don't know what the regulation is.

My thought process is that if the ball hits the line

from that angle, it should be a wide.

But I'd have to look at the actual playing condition.

But if you were bowling over the wicket and a hit the line,

I would have called that not a wide.

But on that angle, I don't know how a normal batter

in their normal stance is supposed to play that ball.

The grid.

I think the issue with wide also is,

it's not like a hard line because bats has moved.

Which I think is another reason why we do need the RS.

It's not like a no ball, right?

No ball is a no ball regardless of the situation.

I agree.

From from no balls.

The tram lines maybe would take no less.

It's a reference.

With the batter, right?

It is a reference.

Anyway, Akshu over here says, I might be crazy.

But to me, the last ball wasn't a wide.

I swear it got the line when passing Shanaka.

Maybe I miss applying the rule though.

That's what I'm saying.

I definitely hit the line.

I think you could almost see the chalk come up.

I have no doubt that it hit the line.

But I think actually more of the ball was on the outside of the line.

But also on that angle, I'm not sure it should just be about the line

is what I'm saying.

Like at the point.

I agree with it, dear.

I think if it's just the line, I might have seen it said it's 50, 50,

but the fact that it kept going away.

If he was bowling that around the weekend and it hit the same place.

Yeah, 100 times out of 100 I would say.

I actually don't think it was a terrible call.

The point isn't really here, whether it's a wider or not a wide, right?

That's up for the umpires and we'd have to read the playing conditions

and go through it.

The issue here is that this game finished on a damp fart for no reason

because we couldn't actually review that.

It would have been more, even just the review,

even if it stayed a wide would have been more fun than what happened,

which is Shanaka leaves it and then we're like, OK, everyone,

we're going to go home.

All right, what do we have next?

We've talked enough about the wide.

And there's another super chat on the wide where Ashu says

feel bad for Shanaka last ball was wide.

Look, both teams are out.

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, Soudi Price says Australia got knocked out by two teams

getting absolutely pounded in super eats.

They did, but those conditions also were not in Australia's favor.

I've got to say, this part of the tournament probably

would have suited Australia a lot more than the part that they played in,

but they weren't a very good team.

Yeah, also, like I think as we said, right,

if Mitch Bosch plays like the Zimbabwe game,

they probably might still have won it.

Yep, could have could have happened, right?

He only played two games and scored two good knocks and he was out.

All right, we'll be up next.

Karthik Udhas says I was told playing an ICC event with few venues

without flight travel is easier.

Wonder where we are.

Wonder where are the Naseas hiding now safe travel home neighbors?

So everyone acknowledged India won the Champions trophy

because they played the best cricket.

Yeah, that's just a knowledge that.

Just another thing.

I mean, they're different points, right?

I think it's yeah, and also it was easier for Pakistan to play in these games.

But Pakistan's not very good and we also said that beforehand.

If you want to come and give us money for things that we've already said before,

fine, but you should be saying this to the people who say the opposite,

which is none of the three of us, right?

We all said before it was an advantage to Pakistan to play in South Africa in

Sri Lanka. We all said that, right?

But we also said they're not ready for this tournament.

They're not quite at that level.

They could play all the spinners who seem to be in better form than the

faces. And because the pitch is a lower scoring,

they don't need to worry about the top gear, which they don't want very good at accessing,

right?

Also, just a bit on this, right?

India had an advantage when they were in Dubai for the entire Champions trophy

because they didn't have to travel and they had no fatigue.

And they were the best team, which is why they won.

Despite the help, they would have won anywhere.

We said this plenty of times.

Pakistan didn't have a one-to-one like India either.

Pakistan don't play all their games at the same venue, for instance.

They might be less-fragile travel fatigue, but they play the SSC.

They play the Premadasa and they play in Palakale.

And there was more travel, but I'm not saying that's why Pakistan lost.

I'm saying Pakistan wasn't as good a team.

The Palakale is probably the one that doesn't favor them the most.

Yeah.

The view of them as a team.

Yeah, it was a bit of a difference.

Like if they stayed in the other venues, things may be a little bit different.

But yeah, we've said all this before, it's just...

But thank you for the free money for agreeing with us before you even put this comment

up.

Arjun Kharain says, I think if Pakistan would have shown similar intent in the India game,

we could have got a good game, although still India would have crossed the line.

They did show intent.

They couldn't bat.

Yeah, that's good safe.

They showed too much intent.

I think me and Vaan would say...

They were done in the first two overs because it was far too much.

Yeah, like barbarism doesn't attack spin for a whole year,

and slog zirkshure in the first ball, so I'd like to...

If me and Vaan, who are the most intent merchant people of all time are going,

whoa, sorry down, guys, I don't think intent is the problem here.

Yeah, it's skill, man, simple.

Pakistan aren't that good a team.

They're a middling side who have a high standard deviation, right?

So that's it.

What's next, Rakshith?

Sungram says how frequent is fixing an international cricket?

It's not that frequent.

Yeah, it's not that common anymore because franchise cricket is just much easier

to fix something in franchise cricket.

There's no patriotism involved.

There are more games.

You can read the entire league.

So spot fixing is a lot more common now in a franchise cricket than it is in

a top-level international cricket.

Associates the one we really have to look at.

Associate cricket is...

So I really do think associate cricket is the next big problem that fixing is going to have,

and the one after that will probably be franchise women's cricket.

That's what I'm saying.

You can't imagine it.

You can't believe it.

Yeah, there's a lot of money, right?

Yeah.

Anywhere where cricketers don't make money and they're playing lots of games

that are in front of cameras where there are big betting pools is an issue.

These big games, it's not quite the same anymore as it used to be.

I'm not saying there hasn't been any cricket fixed in this tournament,

and I'm not saying that major teams haven't been involved in that.

What I am saying, though, is compared to the bad days of international cricket,

the vast majority, if I'm trying to fix something now,

and I've tried to do this where I may be one day we can work it out together,

but we tried to work out how much money you would actually need to...

How you would actually organize a fix in the Pakistan game, for instance.

Because I think everyone else thinks it's easy,

but it's actually a really, really interesting conversation to have,

and how much money you could make of it.

It's knowing what people think they can,

whereas if you're fixing an entire franchise league,

like a T10 league or the BPL, you could make so much money.

Yeah. Anyway, let's move forward.

This one's answered, Rohan Dadood says,

thoughts on so-called premium, fast-polar, and premium all-rounders performance.

Look, Pakistan didn't play well, man.

Shaheen had a poor tournament, that one good game versus England is it.

I don't know who you mean by premium all-rounders.

It's Shadab. Shadab had a couple of good games, a couple of really bad games.

Yeah. I think we should have, like, without, you know,

we've talked about this before.

He was still working on his bowling coming into this tournament.

That's not what you want to be.

If he is one of your better players, any clear of his,

you don't want him still working on stuff in this tournament.

But yeah, he had a couple of good games and a couple of poor games,

which is fine.

Shaheen, we've talked about so much before.

Yeah, man.

If Shaheen had a knee,

we'd feel very differently, but he's slower than he used to be,

and I'm not sure he'll ever be the baller he wants was.

Yeah, we've had a lot of conversation on the good.

Sometimes he overattacks a lot in the ball.

He probably do balls like when he was young, right?

Yeah. Anyway, let's go forward.

We've got Jhehahn, something.

I, I, I, I, I, I run them.

Yeah, I got it.

Fuck yes.

Yeah.

What are these teams smashing Australia?

What are, what are, what are, what is with these teams smashing Australia,

then reverting to being crap in the rest of the series?

In T20's Australia can't blow, can't blow, can't play spin

and come and start in Smith would have made no difference.

Well, Smith would have made a difference because he could play spin quite well.

I mean, there's a reason he wasn't in the side, and I back the team for not putting him in.

Having said that, you know, he might have made a difference.

Cummins have started to be a difference just because they could have just one of them

could have gone on a run against weaker batting lineup.

Shalonka and Zimbabwe are not good batting lineups.

I'm pretty sure if, if I don't care what the pitch is like,

if I have the option of facing Hazelwood Cummins and Stark or facing Ben Dorsias,

I know which option I'm going to pick, right?

I didn't care what the surface is like.

So they could have formed one of those games,

but they weren't a very good team.

And, you know, they needed, they needed the Indian.

They're a really good slow ball, right?

Yes.

It's very good on slow pitches, yeah.

But Australia needed the Indian wickets, right?

Because they were set up to smash the ball out of the park,

and they ended up getting the slower wickets that weren't never going to suit them,

and they don't have a good bowling lineup.

It's just a lot of things weren't wrong with them.

Yeah, all right.

Let's move forward.

We've got BRRRT, says Baram when you work with Robbie.

Is there a part of you that cusses him?

Because he won the World Cup final against Pakistan in 2007,

and hurt your hopes for the World Cup?

Dude, I feel honored that I get to talk to a former cricketer on this channel.

That's my feeling.

That's not actually true at all.

And Baram is always saying, what a fucking asshole Robbie is.

Just over.

I can say, can I witness something from a panel now?

We've got the messages right here.

We've got the video evidence of it.

He's a thing, once you start working in the industry,

you just start working with people,

and you take them from who they are.

And look, I don't want to say anything nice about Robbie on this channel,

and it may be the last time I do.

But Robbie is a really nice guy,

and he's very hard to hate.

And trust me, because I'm very quick to hate everyone.

Agreed.

Yeah, I mean, first time I talked to Robbie, I was in love with the guy.

I messaged him.

Oh, my God.

Sorry, right after I've deleted all the messages that Baram said,

because I will not accept anything nice being said about Robbie.

All right, let's move forward, Rockshith.

Steve Watts says England can't win the World Cup with our butler,

but what can he do from here to flip the switch and come good?

Should he just shut himself off from practice and clear his head,

or should he be dropped?

Do it now.

Yeah, this is probably a much better question for someone like Robbie.

It's it's so hard.

And I always think this is the situation,

whereas a selector, you just have to go,

what if it's just not going to, you know, what if it's just wrong?

And you keep picking him because he's just Bartlar, right?

And he's sitting there going,

I can't do the thing I need to be able to do here.

And it's a really hard decision.

You know, you look back to Australia dropping Shane Morn in 1999

in the West Indies, right?

Such a big decision,

but I think in Steve Watts' mind, whether he was right or wrong,

he just went, I don't think Shane Morn can be Shane Morn at the moment, right?

And now that was obviously coming back from injury,

so it's a little bit different with your spoiler,

but I think sometimes you just have to be honest.

And what doesn't happen enough is,

I think you just have to go to the player

and just have a really honest conversation

and be like, do you think this is about to turn around or not?

And if it's not, that's fine.

Like, you are a legend,

and you were going to stay a legend of our cricket team,

and you helped us change how we played whiteball cricket forever.

But we need to, we really think,

we think we're an outside chance of winning this tournament.

And do you think you can help us with that?

I think, I don't know Josh very well at all,

but I think just as a sort of guy,

you could have an honest conversation with,

where some players will always be like,

of course I'll do it, skip, I'll go.

I think just as a sort of guy is like,

do you know what?

I actually think I am hitting the better in the net

to the moment.

I think I can do this.

Or, I don't know guys,

you're going to have to make the decision for me.

Yeah, Jared, I was just going to ask you,

like, because I was looking at his daughter and that,

I think four of his five dismissals with the space

have been the wider balls.

Do you think it might just be one of those things

where they're just bowling bets at him?

Yes.

Rather than it just being like a more mental thing.

Or I'd be both of those but still.

I mean, I could go back to my,

when I was planning against him in 2018,

my theory was always,

you put two slips into Josh Butler

and you bow wide and he pokes at the ball.

Right?

Now, it's hard to do it.

He's doing all the pressure in this, Jared.

Yeah, and also when he's in good form, right?

My theory, to go back to our conversation before,

try telling a Stephen Fleming that you need two slips

in for Josh Butler,

when he's about to reverse ramp something for six, right?

Like, he was an optimistic theory that I came up with.

But we've seen in test cricket.

He does struggle with that delivery.

And when he, when he's in form,

he can play around that.

When he's out of form,

he's probably more likely to go out to those deliveries.

Also, the other thing that he's due,

and if he's due,

we would score.

I think we would,

yeah, I think I was to,

remember talking with Cheyenne about this at some point is,

I think since like the last two years,

his numbers are three or better.

Do you think that's partly because he comes in

after the, like the initial seam is but so done.

And it's much harder for you to do that plan outside the public

than it is inside the public.

I think I, I actually don't think he's particularly attacking

better in the first three overs of a foul play.

Like, I'd have to go back and check that numbers.

No, it's not just the attacking thing right?

No, what I mean is, like I see what the,

I never understood the idea of opening with Josh Butler,

because I actually think he's main skill.

He's later on in the game,

probably batting at number three or number four, right?

And, and he's never been used that way.

If he's not, if you think that there's a better usage of him,

yeah, maybe this is the time.

They've got other openness in this side.

Duck it. Anyway, Prutvi with the next super chat.

He says South Africa better than India,

better than England, better than the West Indies,

better than New Zealand.

They are my favorites after super eight.

South Africa Red Hot Favorites,

the best bowling lineup and deep batting.

For me, India's still Red Hot Favorites,

but I do agree that South Africa are the team to beat after them.

I think South Africa is the most informed team.

I don't think there's a best team.

Yeah, I also wouldn't put new West Indies above New Zealand.

I don't trust West Indies as bowling.

Yeah, same, same.

Yeah, I'm also, and they basically forfeited the power play

this tournament as well with the bat.

So anyway, let's move on.

Let's go through these ones quickly.

I need to go home, guys.

She was a remaining says, oh, come on.

By Ram Paksant is travel one for 54 kilometers in the

storm in India is traveling 10 kilometers by any team.

Most by any team and also India is most travel team in 23 World Cup.

One time we got advantage.

World gone crazy.

You did not win that competition because of the advantage.

You even listen to the best team Pakistan had an advantage,

but not the same advantage because they weren't playing

at the same venue over and over again.

But still, even if they were, they do not have that good a team.

This is the one.

So what Maram and Dara actually got to listen to words when we say the advantage,

but they want to inspire not because of it.

Yes, they did.

It is very fair to say that India had that advantage in that tournament.

But if you go through the whole history of World Cup,

do you know what you're going to find?

Lots of these.

The reason it's being pointed out about India is because it was in a different

country and it was done for other reasons.

It wasn't just, you know, you ended up in that situation.

But teams end up with those advantages all the time.

But as we were very clear at saying,

and you can keep giving us free money,

we will take your free money.

As we keep saying, they were by far the best team in that tournament.

They were destined to win it if they had to play it in Pakistan as well.

We said that so many times.

You have to be a fucking idiot to keep questioning that, right?

So if you want to give us free money, we'll take the free money.

Yeah, let's move on, guys.

Prashant Omar says, I know I know but can't prove it,

but Baba Sox's video of making fun of his English in one video

on booze bumps and meme reaction.

Yeah, I have no clue about that.

I have no idea what that means, but okay,

those are words that existed.

Yes, all right, let's move on.

And we've got Prashant once again who says,

could be the other one or both,

because Varan's form is concerning.

I agree, my form has been really bad.

Oh, yeah, Varan's form has been terrible.

He wasn't even here for the first 20 days.

I don't think Varan's form is that concerning,

but I think that teams have played in well recently.

But he's been the best baller in the world.

If you drop the best baller in the world on the back of two bad games,

you probably deserve to crumble in a knockout game.

I don't want to get to Alan Donald in the 1996 World Cup quarterfinals about this,

but my god, that did not age well.

Yeah, I don't think anyone has looked at his lense more than I have in the last few days,

and I don't think there's much to say.

It's just that what's happened is anytime he's miscellent,

things have been more ruthless because they have to disrupt him.

So with the only cool deep thing we were discussing this on the group as well.

I was looking, so if you look at Eden Gardens,

it supports slow ball, slow spinners who are both fuller,

or fastest spinners who ball in the defensive lens.

It suits both of them.

So if you wanted, you could theoretically play both.

But if you have a varsity,

we can take early wickets and destroy this in these as well.

So there's no right or wrong answer.

Actually, it's doing well now.

Yeah, he ball well.

And it suits Akshar as well,

because he naturally balls in both zones.

I actually want to look at it.

Nice.

All right, let's move on.

Hassan Ahmed says Pakistan is the kind of team which drives on emotion in chaos.

A number of Pakistan analysts say,

don't pick it under 19,

like Samir Menhas and Ali Raza and the main team mistake.

Pakistan have done this all the time,

but he'll be young players.

The same shot debuted at 16.

But this also doesn't make any sense.

Don't pick an under 19 player,

but then you also says it's a team that applies on emotion in chaos.

So you're saying they should continue to thrive on emotion in chaos.

How about they just get more professional and play cricket better?

I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there.

Yeah, that's the bit of a contradiction,

but I do agree.

Professionalism is the biggest issue with Pakistan cricket.

And we always say that as well.

W. Bruce Bills says,

like the front foot no ball,

why it should be third empires?

I agree. We agree. Yeah, we agree.

Let's move on. Again, so the issue I have with that jar together.

No, far ahead.

Oh, my God.

There's no time for your issues, bro.

The wide line moves.

That's all I'm going to say.

Okay.

This we want.

Okay.

Herds manager says standing in for Jessica again,

Shana, the Jessica, the Transmetal Alchemist, total legend.

On a lighter note, please consider slapping a tariff on barram

whenever he plugs in pro sports.

He runs a good show, though.

Okay. Can someone go and when he does pro short sports,

can we see how often he mentions good areas

or conboxes? I want to say very frequently.

Well, very, very.

Until I say the data and know that it's exactly the same in both directions,

you may get fined.

I'm sitting in a pro sports studio right now.

They're letting me do this.