Deep Dive: Supra’s Vision and the Rise of Automatic DeFi | Joshua Tobkin

In this episode, we’re joined by Joshua Tobkin, co-founder and CEO of Supra, to discuss Supra’s vertically integrated design, which combines smart contracts, native oracles, cross-chain communication, on-chain randomness, and native automation. The conversation also covers automation as a revenue model, MEV mitigation strategies, and the platform’s incentive structures for app developers. Thanks for tuning in! -- Namada is the shielded asset hub rewarding you to protect the multichain. Enabling data protection for any existing asset, app, or chain, Namada introduces shielded cross-chain actions and rewards for shielding your assets, which strengthens data protection guarantees for everyone. Namada is currently entering phase 3 of its mainnet launch — follow along on https://namada.net/ -- Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. -- Traders, AI enthusiasts, and degens—listen up! The game is changing, and DESK is leading the charge. Welcome to the next generation of perpetual trading—where cutting-edge technology meets AI-driven automation. Trade today at https://desk.exchange/ and follow @TradeOnDESK on X! -- Morpho is a permissionless lending platform that allows anyone to earn yield and borrow assets on your terms. Its flexible, trustless infrastructure also empowers developers and businesses to build and tailor their own financial products. Whether you're an individual, fund, fintech, or institution, Morpho is for you. Try Morpho today: https://app.morpho.org/?network=mainnet&spdl=99nsk9 -- Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code BELL10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york -- Follow Supra: https://x.com/SUPRA_Labs Follow Josh: https://x.com/JoshuaTobkin Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3pQTfmD Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ Join the Bell Curve Telegram group: https://t.me/+nzyxAvQ0Xxc3YTEx -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (1:57) Supra's Design Philosophy (10:08) Opinionated vs Unopinionated Blockchain Design (14:59) Ads (Namada & Ledger) (15:32) Supra Governance (20:24) Enshrining Protocols (27:04) Native Automation (33:47) Ads (Namada & Ledger) (34:57) How Does Supra Handle MEV? (46:24) Ads (Desk & Morpho) (47:19) Supra's Go-To-Market (52:21) Supra Containers (56:09) Closing Comments -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.