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Metta and YouTube were found liable for negligence and failure to warn in a landmark case

that could set the precedent for thousands of trials to come.

The jury also decided that both companies acted in malice oppression or fraud.

That brings the total damages to an amount of $6 million.

That's for both punitive and compensatory damages.

With Metta to pay a total of $4.2 million and YouTube to pay $1.8 million.

First of all, those are tiny amounts of money.

But it does open the door to suing the pants off of these big companies

because of their malice oppression and fraud.

And the finding that Metta's apps and Google's YouTube were deliberately built to be addictive.

Yeah.

Every product is built to make you use it as much as possible.

Quotative.

The NBA tries to make it as watchable as possible.

Hoping you'll watch every game and never stop.

And Lay's potato chips tries to make it so you can't stop eating them

and that there's endless examples.

So I just don't understand.

Well, and that's sloppy journalism to me.

I mean, it's like saying, why did you leave your wife?

Well, because she's up the arch.

Oh, okay.

No, no, no, you've got to define that term.

That's actually begging the question.

That is, you know, pretending that the very good, you know, your answer is an answer.

It's not an answer.

Well, why did they sue?

They win the suit because it's addictive.

Specifically citing the endless scrolling on Instagram,

which, you know, if you've ever used Instagram, it just keeps giving you interesting stuff.

So does YouTube.

How is that illegal?

Or something you should be embarrassed about.

And again, we hate these companies, both of us.

Yes.

And what they do in their products and it's bad for you and you shouldn't take them in.

But likewise Cheetos.

We know kidding.

Let's hear some more of the reporting and then we'll throw in our two cents.

Matter responding, quote, we respectfully disagree with the verdicts and will appeal.

Team mental health is profoundly complex and cannot be linked to a single app.

With a Google spokesperson saying, we disagree with the verdicts and plan to appeal.

This case misunderstands YouTube, which is a responsibly built streaming platform,

not a social media site.

Well, I don't, I don't believe, I don't know if any companies are really responsible.

They're objective.

In fact, their legal requirement is to maximize profit.

So the morality of it within the law is all they got to do.

YouTube making an interesting point there.

Even if you're right about all this, we don't do that.

Really.

We just have videos people like.

I also feed you what you like.

Prior to this trial, I didn't, I didn't know YouTube was a social media company.

I don't get how it is.

But I guess we've expanded the term from what we used to usually mean when we said social media company.

One more clip and then we'll talk.

We've sent a message with this that you will be held accountable for the features,

regardless of whether the children are getting sent pornographic pictures,

regardless of whether they're being sex-ploitated,

regardless of those types of issues,

just because of the features alone that drive addiction,

these companies can be held accountable.

Well, I don't know if that guy was setting himself up for his next trial,

because that's not what this particular woman was complaining about.

It was not sex-ploitation and that sort of stuff.

It ruined her mental health to spend 16 hours a day on Instagram.

Yeah, I would ruin anybody's mental health to do that.

There's a whole bunch of things I might have done all day long

that would have been really bad for me when I was a kid if my parents would let me.

But that lawyer there, I think it was the female lawyer,

this guy's counterpart, the winning side.

Female lawyer said,

it's time to stop blaming the parents.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

Oh my gosh, yeah.

So you posed kind of a hypothetical rhetorical question.

I don't know if this guy's just setting himself up for his next trial.

That is 100% what's happening here.

Here are a couple of headlines for you.

Do back-to-back courtroom losses, Harold Metta's big tobacco moment.

Well, it'll be similar.

And the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal,

the social media shakedown begins.

The verdict against Metta in YouTube is a victory for the plaintiff's bar,

not for children or society.

The $6 million verdict against the two companies is the first of more than 3,000 lawsuits

pending in California courts.

That's only the state of California,

3,000 lawsuits that seek to hold social media companies liable

for the travails of young people.

School districts and more than 40 state attorneys general

have also sued for damages to compensate for social programs

allegedly caused by the platforms.

Michael, name a big industry that makes a lot of money.

Anyone you want?

Anything pops to mind?

Sports.

Sports.

Absolutely.

Can come up with...

Well, there are.

All sorts of different ways people sue stadiums, for instance.

Phony, you know, I got hit with a beer can lawsuit or, you know,

the roar of the crowd hurt my ears.

And it's all a mostly a plea to, hey, write me a big check and this can go away.

That's how plaintiff's attorneys make money.

They don't make money bravely going to trial and dueling it out in court,

like Clarence Darrow or a TV lawyer.

These guys did.

But it's mostly just getting settlements.

It's nuisance lawsuits.

And then the occasional getting in front of a jury and convincing a dozen softheads

that the big Goliath maybe, maybe it wasn't really their fault,

but they've got unlimited money.

And this poor pathetic person over here has nothing.

And she's a confused girl in the restaurant.

Let's give her a few bucks.

I mean, because it is kind of addictive, isn't it?

I mean, that's all it takes in a civil trial.

And I hate these companies.

I hate social media.

I think they're terrible for adults and worse for children.

I don't think this is justice.

And then anytime somebody gets money because a company didn't warn you that something bad could happen,

that's what makes the one, the price of everything higher.

And two, stupid stickers on ladders and everything else.

Gawson, you falling off.

This could be a danger.

I know freaking kidding.

But so apparently you got to put on there.

If your kid watches Instagram 16 hours a day,

might not be good for him.

Right.

Right.

And this leads absolutely directly, as you pointed out through the years to,

kids are not allowed to run on the playground because of liability concerns.

That is a diseased society.

That's not an inconvenience.

That's psychosis.

Yeah, I hate Zuckerberg.

I hate Google.

Yeah.

But this is not going to do anything good for the culture or for society.

You know, one more quick semi legal point.

And then I want to hit a Supreme court case that just happened.

Whereas at section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act,

protects internet platforms from being held liable for harm caused by user-generated content.

But plaintiffs are trying to dodge that law by arguing that the platforms were negligent

and how they designed their sites.

They claim that features like so-called infinite scrolling and like buttons,

not user posts per se, harm children.

Whether this theory, Trump's section 230 will be the main issue on appeal

and the platforms have a pretty strong case.

So, you know, there's some interesting analysis that came across that,

something they did.

Let me see if I can find that because I thought.

Well, while you're looking for that.

Oh, I was going to say I could hit that Supreme court case real quickly.

The verdict validated the plaintiff's legal strategy of targeting how the platforms were designed.

Rather than the content on them, which sidesteps the usual section 230 protections

that have historically shielded social media companies.

So that's why they went specifically with the infinite scrolling and like buttons

and stayed away from the content to not get into that area.

Which was pretty clever.

Interestingly enough, in a 90 decision yesterday,

the Supreme Court ruled in cost communications and corporate versus Sony Music Entertainment,

that internet providers such as Cox cannot be held liable for copyright infringement

by users of their internet services.

The decision overturned a previous federal appeals court ruling,

writing for the seven justice majority opinion.

That's funny.

It just said 9-0 decision.

Maybe there was, oh, oh, there were concurrences that had a little different reasoning.

Anyway, Justice Clarence Thomas said that legal precedent holds the companies

cannot be found liable for copyright infringement,

for merely providing service to the general public with the knowledge

that it will be used by some doing French copyrights, clearly.

But anyway, that was a 9-0 ruling that, listen,

just providing the service doesn't make liable for everything that happens on it.

So this will be an interesting wrestling match.

It's got to go up to some pretty high high appeals court, though.

And maybe the soups, in one way or another,

to stop just an avalanche of lawsuits against tech companies,

because their pockets are so deep.

Oh, I didn't explain why I asked Michael to give me an example of an industry

that makes a lot of money.

It was simply that, in plaintiffs' attorneys,

show me the man I will find you, the crime,

or show you the crime as the Bolsheviks used to say,

show me the deep pockets, I will find the reason to sue them.

Say plaintiffs' attorneys, they're creative people, they're smart people.

They see somebody with a lot of money they will figure out what to sue them for,

and then make dramatic speeches about the injustice and the exploitation.

What the cruel, malicious, and fraudulent?

Hell, I try to get that done by noon.

But yeah, they make glorious speeches to soft-headed juries about the malevolence

of the big giant Glyath versus David.

That's how orcs.

Malice, oppression, or fraud.

I've been malicious and oppressive so far today,

but I don't think I've defrauded anybody.

Michael, you had a point.

Yeah, my prediction is that every website, every social media

will now have a warning at some point.

Just to protect themselves before you get it.

You got to click on it before you can get in, you know?

Right.

Which will accomplish anyone, anyone, freaking nothing.

Freaking nothing.

It will accomplish nothing.

It's like the whiskey company would please drink responsibly.

Right.

To remove themselves for liable.

Oh, for God's sake.

When I heard this verdict came down

and I was slapping my forehead on a walker,

something at the gym, I guess.

And I was thinking of other examples.

Because making your product as appealing as possible

is the whole...

Every product that exists is that what you do.

You want people to only use this product

and never stop using this product.

But if it made financial sense for Lays

to make an endless bag of chips,

you can never get to the bottom.

Would they be on the hook for something?

Because it's similar to the infinite scrolling.

I can't come up with any other examples that make any sense.

I've got to put aside my lust for that idea.

I know.

And my trying to figure out how that would happen.

But that would be Lays fall if I just sat there

and ate myself to tell them.

Yeah, wow.

Yeah.

I just, again, this is a socialist, you're not a legal one.

People need to understand what's good for them

and what's bad for them.

And do the things that are good for you

and don't do the things that are bad for you.

Yeah, Hanson, see if you can find specifically

I'm pretty sure it was the lawyer, the female lawyer

who said the time for blaming parents is over

and all that sort of stuff.

That one particularly hit me hard.

Wow.

That's again, that is an argument to make her more money.

Period.

What parents agree with that?

If you're an parent and you agree with that,

that it's on Google or Zuckerberg

if your kid spends 60 hours a day on that

and not on you.

Who agrees with that?

You're a bad parent.

You suck.

Send your children to me.

I will raise them.

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Oh, good for them.

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Speaking of sandwiches, I'm going to review the big arch from McDonald's in a few moments.

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And then some new news where we are with the war in Iran and Trump's big threat.

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So yeah, if you're online at all, you're aware that there was a minor flap of no importance a couple of weeks ago when the CEO of McDonald's put out a video with their new

sandwich.

Their first launch of a big new product in many, many, many years.

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He took a tiny nibble of it.

It was quite mockable.

And then the CEOs of every other company put out pretty good videos of them like appearing to really enjoy their products.

And I mean, every other company I saw a montage last night.

It was like Carl's Jr. and Jack in the box and the CEO from Costco eating a hot dog and just everybody is everybody.

Yeah, Burger King.

The guy from McDonald's.

One of the reasons maybe he took a nibble of it and put it back down as it's freaking awful.

Oh no.

And I love McDonald's.

I love everything at McDonald's.

I don't think I've ever had anything at McDonald's.

I didn't love.

Henry and I both ate part of it and went and ordered other food.

No.

Honest to God.

What was wrong with it?

It was not it was not even a situation where it's you know, I won't get it again, but I'll finish it.

Nope.

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No, I don't know what it tasted like.

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It's just we just we just found it an unpleasant flavor.

It starts with this.

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A big Mac, which is Henry's go to, is 590 calories, just the sandwich, not fries drink, just the sandwich is 590 calories.

This is not horrible for a sandwich.

If you put a bunch of stuff on it.

Oh, yeah.

If you're taking in a couple of two three thousand bucks or calories day growing, boy sure.

No, that's no big deal.

The big arch is a thousand twenty dang near double.

The calories of a big Mac.

And I don't know what they jam in there to double the calories of a big Mac, but I did not enjoy it.

Wow, funny.

I just got a text from a good friend who you know who said I'm looking forward to Jack's review because I had it and it was really good.

Okay.

You know, teach their own, but Henry and I neither one of us even finished the sandwich.

Wow, that's a stunning development.

Impossible.

They made it wrong.

You know, they might be new to making it.

They did something wrong.

Oh, everything's pre-packaged in McDonald's though.

I have no idea what's going on back there.

Yeah.

My Mac, I go to because I'm in California or the minimum wage for faster workers of twenty dollars.

Pretty much you don't see a human being because they've driven human beings out of the McDonald's.

Everything's a computer touch screen and all that sort of stuff.

The response from my friend of the latest couple of senses was never mind.

He's full of crap.

So, there you go.

Oh, boy.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Super.

I don't eat fast food because I'm better than you.

But, um, I am tempted to try it just out of curiosity.

Nobody should ever eat a sandwich that's a thousand calories.

I don't think.

That's, that's big.

It's a big dinner.

Yeah.

Does that have lettuce on it so I can pretend I had a salad kind of sauce?

Kind of sauce.

Yeah, there you go.

Um, Trump with a heck of a truth social post with a warning to Iran.

Look, you're running out of time.

I'm serious here.

He can't get their attention.

And they're going to find out.

And we're going to be in deep.

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President Trump does not bluff and he is prepared to unleash hell.

That is, if cease-fire negotiations with Iran prove unsuccessful.

White House Press Secretary Caroline Levit did not elaborate on a possible 15-point peace plan drawn by the U.S.

and caution that early reports of the plan weren't entirely factual.

According to Iranian state-run media, a U.S. proposal has been rejected and countered with five specific conditions,

including Iranian sovereignty over the strait of Hormuz, a vital shipping passage for much of the world's oil supply.

So there's a lot here. Just a couple hours ago, Trump put out a truth social that included saying Iran better gets serious soon before it's too late.

Because once that happens, there's no turning back and it won't be pretty.

That's with all the, you know, 82nd Airborne Marines, everybody headed there.

The President's rant came as Axios reported that military officials are prepping a massive bombing campaign.

What's a massive bombing campaign based on what we've already seen?

Stay tuned!

If talks go nowhere and we're readying four primary options that Trump could choose from,

those options reportedly include invading or blockading Iran's oil export hub of Carg Island,

seizing Leric Island, which I hadn't heard of, which Teran uses as a military outpost to control the strait of Hormuz,

seizing three other islands, so that would bring you to a total of five islands we would be taking.

Near the western entrance of the strait that are controlled by Iran, but claimed by the UAE,

and stopping or seizing ships sending Iranian oil through the strait, choking off Iran's economic life line.

The President could also order special forces to secure highly enriched uranium, buried at three nuclear facilities,

hit by the USS past June.

Meanwhile, you know, a lot of your late-night comics, mainstream media,

and, you know, people are assuming Trump is a former CIA chief, John Brennan.

Oh, congenital wire.

He's completely making this up that we got negotiations going on.

Well, yesterday the Pakistani foreign minister confirmed that indirect talks are going on between the US and Iran,

mediated by the government of Pakistan as well as Egypt, Turkey and other countries,

reports circulated this week that JD Vance could be going to Pakistan this coming weekend,

to seal a ceasefire deal.

Here's a question for you.

A little tangent.

A little.

So Iran's five-point counter-proposal included they own the Straits of Four Moose

and can charge whatever tolls they want.

The US closed all of its bases in the region, and I can't remember a couple of reparations for the damage.

That's right.

Rebuild everything, plus penalties, yeah.

It's just utterly farcical.

Here's the question.

What are they doing?

What is the point of that?

Is that the bringing on the twelfth moddy praying for a cataclysm praying for the end of times,

hoping that that will rally the Muslim world of something like that?

Are they trolling?

That's a high-level troll, man.

I mean, seriously, if Hitler came out of the bunker there in the last days and said,

all right, you're my demands.

You all become Nazis.

You rebuild Berlin.

You declare me the fear of America too.

And I don't know what else.

It's a brand new German shepherds.

And Eva Brown gets a nice condo in Miami.

I mean, what?

Right.

I don't get this. This is odd.

Well, that's probably why Trump said at the beginning of that post,

the Iranian negotiators are very different and strange.

Yeah.

He's probably looking at him, kind of like you just said,

like, you have zero bargaining position.

What are you talking about?

I guess the sum of y'all would say they have a lot of bargaining position.

They've closed down the Strait of Hormuz, 20% of the oil traffic in the world.

Yeah, you're overreacting.

But they're not going to be able to hold onto it.

We can and we'll take it.

That's why Trump saying, if you don't do something now, it's going to be too late.

We're just going to completely take over the whole thing.

The polling is not super great.

I want to get into that as kind of a precursor for my big, big, big topic,

which we'll do next segment if we can break semi on time.

Give me 42.

What's your Michael?

The 82nd Airborne Division.

They're typically deployed at the beginning of complex.

So does the White House consider this complex as wrapping up?

Or is it changing shape?

As I said, at the beginning of my remarks, we are meeting our goals

of operation at the fury expeditiously.

The president likes to maintain options at his disposal.

One of the headlines today is Trump tells AIDS he wants speedy end to Iran war.

Trump is mercurial and mercurial is not great war leadership.

And we'll have to see where that goes.

Unless he's trying to keep him guessing.

Right.

Fair enough.

And part of the reason that if that's sincere, he's saying that is in the next clip.

According to brand new Fox News polling 58% of registered voters oppose

current US military action in Iran with 44% feeling that the action

will make the US less safe in the long run.

I don't understand how it makes us less safe.

But the number that's apparently bothering the Trump crowd the most is independence.

So only 42% approval for the war, 12% Democrats, 77% of Republicans.

But the independence 28% approval for the war among independents.

Got to do a better job of making the case.

Well, he's made hardly any effort to make the case.

Yeah.

Including, and this is really extraordinary.

The state of the Union address was four days before we launched this attack.

And he didn't really say anything about it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I get, I'll buy the element of surprise argument for that one.

But I mean, his speech writers, surely they can come up with an eloquent version of,

well, maybe what I'm about to say next segment.

But, you know, the messaging from this White House is terrible.

It is almost always terrible.

Well, ultimately not going to make any difference what the poll numbers were right now at the end of this deal.

If Iran ends up in a better place, history will judge it as a good thing.

Unless the administration chickens out before they get that good thing done,

because of the poll numbers.

That would be a bad result.

Right.

I mean, if the Republican Party panics over the prospects at the midterms,

and we're compelled to, you know, leave the hornets nest rolling around on the ground,

that would be a very bad thing.

There is another thing I had I wanted to jam in before we take a break.

So you can get to your Joe's main big point or whatever you're going to call it.

It's not a good name, but it might have to do.

There is some reporting that the Pentagon is looking at stopping the flow of arms to Ukraine

to turn our attention toward the Middle East, which obviously would be bad for Ukraine.

Yeah.

There's a lot of punditry about how China is thinking, wow, now we gotta go now.

How about the fact that Europe plays no role in any of this,

including the war in their own backyard.

They don't do anything for that.

They don't do anything for the Shredder Hormuz, where they get their oil.

They're just, they're just sideline players.

Flabby useless socialists with nice architecture.

Right.

We'd like to get together and have meetings.

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Lennon Nisayba, who is the Foreign Minister for the United Arab Emirates.

You know them as the UAE.

She was on special report with Brett Baer last night.

And it was striking.

First clip Michael.

Well, first of all, Brett, what happens in the Gulf clearly doesn't stay in the Gulf.

So Iran's attack on Gulf allies of the United States and Jordan is an attack on the entire world

and the world economy, including its closure of the Straits of Hormuz.

Let's not forget that a fifth of the world's oil and gas goes through the Straits of Hormuz.

30% of its fertilizers for food production and harvest goes through the Straits of Hormuz.

Almost every product known to every global supply chain coming from the Gulf goes through the Straits of Hormuz.

So effectively, Iran is trying to give the global economy a heart attack.

We should not allow Iran a state sponsor of terrorism to set the global price for food and gas.

Not just terrorism, Islamic terrorism.

The UAE hates Iran.

Saudi Arabia hates Iran.

Those countries and several others, they are through cow-towing to their fanatical minorities.

It's becoming more and more clear.

I loved, unless you have a comment right there, Jack.

I love this next clip, 51B, Michael.

The question is why.

And I'm sorry.

Can you stop?

So we don't have Brett's questions, which really makes this difficult because I haven't memorized all of them in order.

He asks, why is Iran attacking its neighbors in the Gulf, including heavily, heavily, heavily the UAE?

The question is why.

And I think the answer is because we are an idea that threatens Iran, that threatens this regime.

Because we are open, we are progressive, we are tolerant, we're a vibrant economy.

And what have they done for their people with the resources that they have?

They sit across three continents, just the same way we do.

They have inflation.

Their currency is in freefall.

They had a spate of killing protesters in January.

This is a really ruthless regime.

And President Trump is right to hold it to account today.

She makes the case that they lie about everything and then 53 finally, Michael.

The United States does not have to bear this burden alone.

The NATO Secretary General came out with a very strong statement supporting President Trump's efforts

with partners in Europe to keep the Straits of Hormuz open.

World leaders over 30 have signed a statement to that effect on Saturday and more joining this week,

that they are committing resources to keeping the Straits of Hormuz open.

So this is not just a U.S. problem.

This is a global problem, and that is the light at the end of the tunnel.

It should be nice if any mainstream news outlets would have some voice like her on

to make that case as opposed to make it seem like it's Trump's crazy wacky on his own lark.

Yeah, I just read I think it was in the New York Times.

One of their feature articles was the war in Iran, which Trump started.

Yeah, no kidding.

For what is worth an attractive middle-aged woman, obviously very, very well spoken, uncovered hair

and a prominent part of that regime.

It's the new Middle East.

So a couple of things again, the headline is Trump tells AIDS he wants speedy into Iran war.

I sure as hell hope that urge goes away.

I came across two great pieces of the thinking I really liked.

One for us was from Matthew Kronig, twilight of the rogue states.

And he talks about great quote.

In 1993, James Woolsey was Bill Clinton's nominee to direct a CIA, said in his confirmation hearing,

we have slain a large dragon, but we now live in a jungle filled with a big,

wilderness variety of poisonous snakes.

I'm a big fan of a good metaphor and that's a good one.

The US faced new enemies, regional autocratic powers pursuing weapons of mass destruction,

sponsoring terrorism, abusing human rights and flouting international law.

And then he goes through the list of presidents who've all talked about these regimes.

But then the 90s and 2000s brought a long list of rogues, Milosevic and Serbia.

Sudam Hussein, Mo Markadafi, the Kim regime in North Korea, Assad in Syria,

Omar Al-Bashir and Sudan, communist in Cuba, the Shavista's in Venezuela, the Islamic Republic of Iran.

And since then he writes, the US has maintained a steady of haphazard defacto campaign

of toppling anti-American dictators.

And he writes about how well it's gone once you get past some of the chaos.

And that's with all due respect to the idiotic, the unspeakably idiotic policies in Iraq by the Bush administration.

Contrary to the popular notion that America's post-Cold War grand strategy was a failure,

Washington has shown a knack for toppling dictators.

And he says, some consider these operations failures because they left chaos in their wake.

But that misses the point.

For years these rogues dominated the president's daily intelligence briefs.

Now that they are defying these countries from remaining afflictions,

don't threaten Americans or occupy the attention of senior US national security officials.

At least not usually.

North Korea is the exception that proves the rule Bill Clinton missed an opportunity to strike it in 94

and now the regime has a major nuclear power.

So I think that makes the point pretty well that he can't be too afraid of breaking some eggs.

But then this one really, it's written by a fellow named Sadanand Doom or Dumei.

He is a Muslim fellow.

And he wrote a piece in the journal opinion section.

Muslims win if Iran's regime loses.

A defeat for the mullahs would yield benefits that would ripple across the globe.

And you know me, my jihad against jihad.

The end of the Islamic Revolutionary regime in Iran wouldn't be good news only for the US and Israel.

A defeat for the Itoles would also benefit the world's two billion Muslims.

It would extinguish a radical experiment with an ugly shadow stretching from Lebanon to Indonesia.

And he goes into the history of the 1979 revolution and the tortures and killings and bombings and then murders of our Marines and all sorts of folks.

I like this paragraph.

In 1989, Khomeini condemned the British Indian author Salman Rushdie to death for writing a novel that offended orthodox Islamic sensibilities.

The message, Muslim clerics thousands of miles away would decide the boundaries of free speech in the West.

Then he talks about the attack and how it was carried out years and years later.

The death to America, death to Israel, chance on Iranian streets.

They established a network of terrorists, proxies spanning Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon.

It became the prime sponsors of the Israel-focused terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah.

Iranian proxies killed or maimed thousands of US servicemen in Iraq with roadside bombs.

The regime sponsored terrorist attacks in Argentina, Bulgaria, and Germany among other places.

Then he gets into their blood soaked record, oppression of women, artists, intellectuals, gays, everybody.

We're running a little short on time.

But he explains that most Muslims did not have the Mullah's philosophy.

The signal to Islamists everywhere, Shiite and Sunni, that the quest to impose God's law or Sharia on Earth wasn't a fantasy but a realistic goal.

Because for years, established clerics had shunned the idea of the clerics running the world.

They thought it was inappropriate. It was a terrible idea.

But then Iran came along and convinced millions, billions of people around the world that no, no, no, no.

Actually, yeah, the clerics should run absolutely everything.

They are to a huge extent, along with some Saudi Wacadus.

They're the engine of Islamic extremism around the world.

We've got to get rid of them, practically no matter what it costs.

Yeah, but gas is up a dollar.

Well played.

Well played.

Yeah, it's either a good idea. It's not.

It can't be based around whether or not gas goes up a couple of bucks for a short period of time.

And if you really into this like we are, it's notably points out that Ali Kamehni, who we just blew the beard off, the second Ayatollah,

he translated the works of complete Wacadudal fundamentalist ISIS and al-Qaeda inspiring Muslim Brotherhood fundamentalist Said Qatub, who was an Egyptian,

he translated that hardcore Sunni guys writings from Arabic to Persian.

So all the Shiites in Iran could learn his philosophy.

Man, they are the engine to a large extent of extremist Islam.

I'll have to get to this comedian. It's got a Netflix special.

Netflix made him take his Muslim joke out of his routine.

And the whole conversation about that is really interesting.

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I'm telling you, Islam versus the radical Islam versus the West is the biggest challenge on Earth.

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