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In hour three, Mike & Jason discuss the latest Canucks news with Donnie & Dhali's Rick Dhaliwal (1:20), the boys tell us what they learned (27:00), plus it's Ask Us Anything Friday! (40:00)
This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch.
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It's Rick Dollywall here on the Halford and Bruff
Show on SportsNet 650.
What up, Ricky D?
How's it going, guys?
How's it going?
Things are great.
Let's talk about that game last night.
They're not great, Halford.
If they were great, we'd be talking about a winning streak.
Instead, we're talking about eight wins at home all year.
Let's go back to the Grizzlies first year.
Ten wins at home.
That's it.
And the connexer now two and eight in their last 10 at home,
shut out five times at home this year.
12 shots on goal after two periods.
13 shots at the 50 minute mark.
It's just baffling.
If fans with the money they're paying,
just want an honest effort every night at Rodgers Arena.
And that's not too much to ask for.
They pay a ton of money.
If players should not keep them on effort.
Obviously, they're in 30 seconds.
So the skill and the hockey sense is not there with this team.
But the efforts should always be.
This is the same week.
They keep losing at home, and then season ticket prices
go up again.
Not by a huge number, but no playoffs in nine
of the last 11 years.
I'm not sure that was warranted.
The near crangers have a policy that if they don't make
the playoffs, they don't raise ticket prices.
I think the nicks, they've got the same owner, Dolan.
They do the same thing.
That's goodwill by the ownership.
That's sort of stuff never happens here.
I don't know about you guys, but when they sent out
their season ticket message this week to the fans,
we had a ton of tax to our show.
We had 20 to 25 year season ticket holders say that's it.
They've had enough.
There's no more, no more.
We had a guy who's been a season ticket holder,
I think, for close to 50 years, he said it's over.
They're pissed at ownership, management, concession prices,
tired of the losing.
Not renewing will catch the owner's attention.
One playoff went in the last 15 years,
and the building is still full.
It's still full.
Sometimes the owner takes that for granted.
I'm going to be very interested to see if that changes next year,
but only time will tell.
We don't know until we start seeing some home games next year,
but I think there's a lot of people that are tired of
shelling out that type of money for what is essentially
a team in a rebuild in 32nd place.
Well, especially when you can't essentially get your money back
on the secondary market.
If you're having to blow tickets out the door at 50%
or just give them away, it makes the financial commitment
that much more.
Absolutely.
And it's not cheap.
This is not the 1980s, where you can buy a ticket for $7.
And popcorn was $2 and Coke was $1.
We had a text this week.
Some guy went to the movies for $65,
and then he went to a conucks game and a cost of $400.
For two tickets.
But it's just like Jason, it's not like they're
coming off for five good years, and you're raising prices.
They're coming off a horrible year last year,
and this year's been worse than last year.
And I like the policy by the Rangers.
If we don't make the playoffs, we don't increase prices.
That's pretty good will by the order.
But I don't think you'd ever see that type of good will here.
Well, let's talk about some good will,
because I think Zee, Booyum and Tom Vlander and Linus Carlson
earned some good will at the end of last night's game,
even though the team got dominated on the ice by the kings.
But they showed some frustration.
They showed some fight.
And Booyum dropping the gloves, I think,
showed a lot of conucks fans that he still does care.
And whether this is fair or not, I think sometimes
we wonder if some of the veterans on the team
feel the same way.
Since the trade deadline, two guys have really
stepped it up for me in terms of listening to them
in interviews and being very impressed.
That's Booyum and Will Vlander.
These are two high character kids.
And I see letters with these guys in the future, both of them.
They talk, they're matured beyond their years.
They talk like 10-year vets.
Sometimes you listen to them and you go on holy smokes.
Sounds like a 10-year vet.
When Will Vlander went to Sweden during the Olympic break
on his own dime and went to train to get better,
what does that tell you about the kid?
There's something there.
You think it's cheap to fly from Vancouver to Sweden?
That was his dad, the conxton pay for it.
His dad's a skills guy.
He's got his own trainers down there.
And during the Olympic break, this kid hops on a plane
to go to Sweden to work out, get better.
That's what you want to see from your young kids.
And the kids they draft from a year on end,
that's what you want to see.
And Booyum, he's going to get there.
I know people are, he's only 20.
How many 20-year-old defensemen do you know
in the NHL right now?
Not many.
He's got to get there.
He shows you flashes.
He shows you flashes.
He's going to get there.
And for those people that are looking
for a ton of points for Booyum, do keep in mind.
He's on the second lowest score in team in the NHL.
He's pushing the puck up to forwards, who are leading this NHL,
and leading this team with 17 goals.
The conxton may not have a forward with 20 goals this year.
And that might take him back 10, 15, 20 years.
I can't remember the last time.
But this is one of the lowest scoring teams
in the national oculic.
He's not going to get a ton of points now.
Booyum, if points are what you're looking for him.
He's pushing the puck up to a lot of guys
that have trouble scoring goals.
When the conxton went to Edmonton,
it took Edmonton to game seven, two years ago.
They were one of the highest scoring teams in the,
I think there were a top 10 scoring team in the NHL.
They had six, seven guys at the all-star game.
Scoring goals wasn't a problem.
Scoring goals is a problem now.
But as we've talked and talked about culture,
it is so nice to see two of the guys that are trying
to change it, one's 20 years old, the other one's 21.
And it's just nice to see that, you know,
you would like to see it from the veterans too.
But it's just so nice to see that it's two young guys
that are trying to change the culture,
make it fun to go to the rank,
make it fun on road trips, on the plane,
in the hotel, all that stuff.
You know, the conxton of ample reason
not to be happy this year.
A lot of guys wanted out, right?
Guys don't want out of Vancouver
because it's a great place to play.
They want out because it's not a great place to play.
But you're right.
Both those young kids will enter in William.
They care.
Their care meter is very high.
And that is, and judging with,
and the fact that they're 20-21,
that boards well for the connox.
It definitely does.
And, but, you know, don't get me wrong.
Both those guys need to improve dramatically.
Well, sure.
And that's not a criticism at all.
But I do wonder when I hear all this talk
about signing Zeeb William to a long-term contract,
when would they think of doing that
because he's got one year left on his ELC?
Is there any reason to rush into that?
Well, they could do it July 1st.
Yeah.
And, yeah, they could do it July 1st
where they can wait.
It's their call.
But he's the centerpiece of the Queen of Eustrade.
Is he not Jason in your eyes?
For me, he is.
Sure, I guess.
I mean, I don't know what that has anything to do
with signing them to a long-term contract, though.
No, no, but he's the centerpiece.
He's a very important part.
You don't want to sign them to two years.
And then two years and two years
and let them walk as a UFA,
because that's exactly what happened with Quinn.
Look, yeah, I think he's going to get a long-term deal.
I'll be shocked if he doesn't.
Markets change all the time.
salary caps going up.
One to two crazy contracts affect everybody.
Keep that in mind.
But he's got a huge upside.
He's going to wear a letter one day.
His character is to be the roof.
He's wanted every level that he's ever played.
Most people think Jason that Williams
is going to get $8 million plus a year.
There's two contracts in the last year
that have really changed things for defensemen.
Luke Hughes got $9 million.
He came off for $44 point season.
Jackson Lakom, $9 million.
He came off for $43 point season.
If it's an eight-year deal,
it's going to be between $8.9
or maybe a little bit overnight for this kid.
And for those people that think that's an outrageous number,
let me tell you something.
The first time I dropped,
keep for sure it was going to get $5 million
was on your show in September.
I took a lot of heat for that.
Oh, he's an idiot.
He's just, you know, he's doing this for the agents.
Everybody freaked out.
Sure what ended up going from $1.5 million to $5.7.
I was wrong.
It wasn't five.
It was five seven.
Markets are changing.
Caps going up.
A lot of stuff goes on with these contracts.
One dumb contract affects a lot of teams.
The Bobby McCann in Toronto,
as soon as Sherwood signed,
it just screwed the Maple Leafs.
And because Bobby McCann's got better numbers in Sherwood,
and now all of a sudden Sherwood's the new comparable.
He's in Seattle.
That guy's going to get way more than Sherwood.
And these guys are 1920 goal scorers, right?
It doesn't take much for the market to get crazy.
It takes one or two dumb deals.
Like people could not believe Luke Hughes went
from his entry level deal to nine million off of 44 points.
But it is what it is.
You do have to be careful though as the conucks,
because they're kind of setting a new hierarchy of salaries,
right?
And in the rebuild,
there's going to be these baseline salaries that,
yeah, I know teams look at other teams
and here are the comparables,
but they also look internally on the team.
And sometimes there have been issues
within the conucks where you're like,
this guy's making this much,
and this guy's only making this much.
This doesn't, this seems off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I absolutely, you remember Tyler Mott?
One of the reasons he ended up leaving Vancouver
is because he thought he should get what Jason Dickinson
was getting in Vancouver.
But Jason Dickinson was 6'4'2'20 could skate.
And so yes, comparables do play a big factor, Jason.
And every day in this summer,
you're going to see on July 1st.
What are you going to see, Jason?
You're going to see some dumb contracts.
Yeah.
It's just the way hockey goes.
And it's going to affect future Vancouver conucks.
It's going to affect.
They got some potential first, second, third of all picks coming.
You think those guys are going to be cheap
to keep in the fold for a year or after?
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm arguing.
Like you need to set it accurately.
And also, I would say not,
I realize that sometimes you have to make bets on guys
and you have to take some risk.
But let's not overpay these guys too early
because we also want them hungry to improve.
We don't want them fat and happy.
And we go, let's move on here.
A lot of talk on our show about Adam Foot.
Is next season, is it a two horse race
to see who's going to be the coach?
Is there only two options?
Foot or Malhotra?
Yeah, I think that's a great point.
It's been a hot topic this week too.
We're going to find out soon in two or three weeks anyways.
But let me say this about Malhotra, first of all.
The goal for Malhotra, like every coach in the HL,
is to coach in the NHL.
Nobody wants to be in the minors forever, right?
His family still lives in Toronto while he coaches in Abby's.
He's got kids age 8 to 17.
His son Caleb, we all know it's going to be probably
the first center taken in this year's NHL drop.
Malhotra is very well aware of the situation.
There could be an opening event,
who or there could be an opening elsewhere.
He's going to get interest.
A few people reached out to me and asked me,
if I heard anything about Toronto and Malhotra.
Really hard to say right now because the Leafs
have not made a coaching change.
So it's all just hearsay, right?
The connects are either going to Firefoot
because they need a better coach.
They're going to Firefoot because they don't want to lose
Malhotra or they're going to keep foot.
I heard you guys this morning and I agree.
Foot does not help himself when he talks to the media.
He's not great with the media.
But neither is Elvin.
Their best talker is Rutherford by a country mile.
Now, the other thing I want to get across is
in the last 11 years, it connects
have hired three rookie coaches,
Willie Desjardins, Travis Green and Adam Foot.
In those 11 years, with those rookie coaches,
the connects have missed the playoffs nine times.
Malhotra would be the fourth rookie coach in 12 years
in this city.
Rookie coaches take a long time to figure things out.
And in a Canadian market, it's way tougher.
Green is an excellent coach today in the NHL.
It took him seven to eight years to become that.
But we expect these rookie coaches in Vancouver
to become great in one year.
Foot was hired to fail.
The plan was win for Quinn.
Instead, what do they do to what they traded?
Hughes, Sherwood, Garland and Myers.
What coach isn't going to suffer?
What those four guys taken out of his lineup?
He was never hired to be a coach of a 32nd place team.
It was all about winning this year.
The reason they're 32 is not because of foot.
It's because of management mistakes.
Now, does Malhotra even want the Vancouver job?
This team has had six coaching changes in 13 years.
The Connects job will not be great for Malhotra's resume.
He's going to lose a lot.
Will the owner want to pay for it two years not to coach?
Malhotra isn't, and this is the big one.
Malhotra has not taken Vancouver from 30 second to 15
through 10th or 5th or second.
This is a bad hockey club that needs major changes
and patients to fix.
Fans and media in this town, maybe you guys,
maybe Drantz, maybe me, Adurulohu.
But we're all going to be bitching
about the same things next Christmas.
If it's Malhotra there or foot there, take that to the bank.
And for those saying Mani develops players younger
or better than foot, what young players or people talking about?
Most of the kids from the draft this year and next year
for Vancouver will not be playing in Vancouver for two
or three years down the road.
Just as important as coaching in a rebuild
is the development team.
They are just as important.
How you work with kids in Abbey is just as important.
Could actually do a good job with Lena's Carlson,
Maxison, Ellie Spetter's in the defenseman.
But whole Glenner and Likaira Mackie, something's wrong.
When they keep sending those two up to Vancouver
and they keep getting healthy scratch or sent back down.
The combination of coaching and development
is going to be very crucial in the upcoming years.
But I do caution, all those people
that want a coaching change, I guarantee you,
those same people are going to bitch about something
about the new coach next year.
Take it to the bank.
You know who, maybe, but I just don't know
why it's going to be either foot or Malhotra.
Like why would they not-
You know who was a good rookie head coach
who took over a rebuild in a stadium market?
Marty St. Louis.
And that was an outside-the-box kind of idea.
Yeah, that was a good one there, I thought.
And that was, I mean, it takes a lot of the boxes.
You're talking about where it's like no experience
taking over a team that's going to lose more
than it's going to win.
I think it's important you get a teacher in the door,
to be honest.
OK, so why is he not working in Vancouver
with rookie coaches, right?
Like why?
Like the Willie D Travis and give Travis credit.
He's an excellent coach today,
but he took him a long time to get there.
And so we're going to, you guys want your seventh coach
in 13 years, and you watch.
You just take it to the bank, the amount of people
that bitch about the new coach next year by Christmas.
Nobody can win in Vancouver.
As another team told me this week,
it doesn't matter who coaches in Vancouver.
They're taken over the 30 second place roster.
There's not enough talent.
There's not enough hockey sense.
It's going to be bad for whoever takes over.
It doesn't matter.
I just can't buy the notion that it doesn't matter
who coaches the team when you're trying to bring along
young guys like a Zibou him or Tom Vlander.
I can't accept that.
OK, so you guys go ahead and tell me who's going to,
who would come here next year
where you wouldn't bitch about something he did?
Well, I don't know what bitch about everything.
But OK, well, that's what I'm going to teach the boys
not coming here.
OK, well, I don't know.
I mean, so Dali, you're confusing me a little bit.
What are you advocating for exactly?
I'm not advocating.
I'm saying it doesn't matter who coaches next year.
They're going to have the same issues.
There's not enough talent and hockey sense on this team
to take them from 30 seconds to 15 to 10.
That's what I'm saying.
And where's the young people?
Nobody's expecting that.
Nobody's expecting that.
They're expecting a coach to come in here
and work with the young players to improve them.
Nobody's expecting them to make the playoffs.
Everyone, I don't think necessarily people,
even if the connox worth 30 second overall, next season,
I don't necessarily think that people
would be automatically upset with the coaching staff.
I don't think that Adam Futt has done a very good job
this year.
When I listen to him talk, I'm confused.
And I wonder if that carries over to the players as well.
Yeah, his explanation about why Lankin and his started
for straight times over tolopilo was a bit confusing.
But that's again, a rookie coach.
How many times did he talk to the media under Rick Dockett?
Can you remember?
Not many.
And now he's right now just taking right now.
Yeah, I mean, that is part of it, though.
Like it's a grind.
That is fun.
It's like a daily grind.
I was like, oh, god, I got to look at you guys again
and explain myself.
You need to be well-spoken.
Look at John Cooper.
He's so well-spoken.
And I think it really helps him.
Like we're running out of time here.
And I want to get to one more thing because we
had Frank Saravali on the show.
Was it earlier this week or was the last week
when he said that he would be shocked if the conucks don't
try to move one of Lankin and or Demko this off season?
So I ask you, Jason, exactly how is that going to happen?
Demko's had two major injuries in two years.
Two surgeries.
He's played a grand total of 43 games in the last two years.
This hockey club gave him 8.5 million a year.
Exactly what team is lining up for that?
You can't even think about moving Demko until he shows up
to camp.
He then plays a significant amount of games
by Christmas, by January 1st.
Those are all big massive ifs, capital letters if,
wishful thinking.
What team is even thinking Demko until Christmas?
What about Lankin and then?
I've got to show.
What about Lankin and then?
Because Demko, I'll agree with you.
And I think we'll all concede that Demko for any team
to acquire him.
It was just be a massive risk and probably not worth it.
What about Lankin and then though?
There are some teams with goal-tending deficiencies.
OK, so they're watching Lankin and right now.
You don't think Lankin is being watched.
So here's the thing of Lankin and this hockey club
gave him a full no move this year and next year.
He just said last week in the media.
He doesn't want to go anywhere.
He became a father this season.
He had to leave the team for a personal matter this season.
Does that sound like a player ready to wave his no move?
The reality is both these contracts and the no move
make it virtually impossible to move these guys.
Like I have no indication.
No indication that Lankin and he just said last week,
I want to stay, I want to work with the young kids.
I want to help this team.
I want to do all this stuff.
He's got a full no move, right?
He's got the young kid.
People think waving a no move.
Has a hockey player with a young child ever been traded?
Like it happens, like the kid will be fine.
You move radio stations.
You go over one bridge and you go to the new radio station
to ask this guy, why do you think he asked for a two year
no move?
To be in control.
To be in control.
It's not necessarily to say, it's not necessarily to say,
I'm not moving out of Vancouver,
but if they try any indication, okay.
Jay, Jay, he's not, he just told the media last week,
I don't want to go anywhere.
I want to stick around.
Well, you can change people's mind.
You can say, well, we don't want you.
And we want to move on from you.
He probably changes mind, then this happened.
Dolly, it's happened millions of times in the NHL.
Okay, I'd ease up with a million times.
People don't understand what goes into a no move.
They take less money to get the no move
and they take the less money
so they can sleep better at night
knowing that I don't have to move my young family.
He took less money.
Like, what part of that don't you get, Jason?
He could have got more elsewhere
if he would have packed up his bags and left as a UFA.
Okay.
It's not as easy as you say.
I'm just saying, a no move clause,
a no move clause, the value in a no move clause
is not simply, I don't want to move.
It's being in control of the situation
if you are essentially asked to move
or you get to that point.
I mean, that is, in fact, that's probably the biggest,
that's the biggest thing.
The no move clause is like, I get to say,
where I want to go.
Or tell me, Pairner and get it.
He was like, I'm not going to Seattle,
even if they offer me all this.
I'm going to LA, that's the only place I'm gonna go.
So I just have an issue on completely closing the door
unless you're hearing from his reps
or from anyone that he said,
like, I am not moving 100%.
I have no evidence he wants to go anywhere.
And here's another one for you.
When he tells the media, I want to stay
and he's a gold tender playing in front
of four defensemen under the age of 23
and he's gonna get let up, he's gonna get let up
playing in front of a very weak hockey club
with Lee ZNHL and goals against.
This guy wants to stay in that scenario.
Like, what does that tell you?
He doesn't want to go anywhere.
Look, I'll never say never
because Tyler Myers waived and he had no desire to waive.
And his agent got mad at me whenever I said,
hey, they're gonna move them and move them and move them
and it happened.
But I mean, it happened because they traded,
Garland, they traded, I sure would.
And the admirer saw the writing of the wall.
These guys are not gonna be good.
Okay, I'll leave.
But I just have no evidence to lengthen a once too.
Maybe a change of some day.
I don't know.
Ricky, do you think we can go on
where we have against it for time?
Thanks for this, bud.
See you, pal.
Adios.
Later, buddy.
I rigged all the wall and the phone.
That was a slam.
That was a slam.
I mean, the bubble did a bit as he tried to slam.
He was just really excited to hang up.
Rough got him a little rattled.
Little rattled.
Little rattled.
He's gonna upset.
Okay.
Let's all take a deep breath.
I'll take a deep breath.
I'll take a deep breath.
And let's go to break.
We got one final hour to go on the outfit.
I don't think they're talking to him.
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Hey, Helford, when I'm going back and forth with Dolly, what do you do?
Do you just kind of sit there and zone out a little bit?
Today, I looked, I was trying to find a movie.
When we went down, we went to the rabbit hole because I was talking about the movies that we walked out of before.
Sure.
And I said it was Dracula dead and loving it.
And that it's loving me.
It was Leslie Nielsen's finest opus.
It was his finest moment.
Was it one of those spoof ones?
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
It wasn't real.
No, I don't know.
It was spoof on the Dracula movie.
It was like an airplane or...
Kind of.
They could take time.
Yeah.
And then the other one was Existence.
Then I went down.
There was also...
I like his spelling on that one, by the way.
It's like Existence.
It was at a little bit of edge to it.
Not to the movie, though.
The movie sucked.
So then I was harkening back to last week's Asuka said anything Friday when we were...
They were asking about things that you missed from the 90s.
And one of them and I went on for about a minute and a half, two minutes about it was the act of physically going to rent a video from the video store.
Blockbuster or otherwise, you're independent.
And then there was another part I wanted to tack onto that, which was there was a certain kind of pressure in a good way
when you were tasked for renting the movie for the group.
Oh yeah.
Huge pressure.
A lot of pressure, right?
You're like, you've got to gauge the group.
The room.
You got to figure out what kind of vibe you got for the rest of the night.
Yeah.
You know, you got to gauge each person's individual likes and what they're willing to watch.
You're a curator.
Right.
It's a big job.
And if you're watching it with your parents or something, you don't want anything.
Yeah.
You can't go red shoe diaries with parents.
No ranchiness.
Right.
Yeah.
Keep it clean.
Anyway, I was trying to find, I rented a movie once for a group universally loathed.
Got turned off within five minutes, but I can't remember the movie.
And so that's what I was doing during the dollar while he was.
I was trying to remember this movie.
Yeah.
But I can't remember who was, I can't remember nothing about it.
It was a lot, it was, it was a lot of pressure.
A lot of pressure.
You know, it was like, I mean, the modern day version, and not this has ever gone away, but it's like choosing a restaurant.
You know, if you go to a bad restaurant, it's very normal.
If it's your recommendation, and Halford just tried to like plow right through it.
It was like, this is pretty good, right?
I was like, I've got food poisoning.
Everything is under here.
That's, that's actually, that was planned.
Part of the experience.
It's part of the experience.
They served their chicken rare here.
It's their thing.
A foodie would know that.
Yeah.
That's right.
But anyway, that's what I was doing during the dollar while I hit.
Okay.
I tell you what I wasn't doing, retaining any of the information.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, what's your what we learned?
My what we learned is that we have not discussed at length all of the World Cup qualifying news
from yesterday.
I know we did mention that Canada got a little bit closer to finding out who it will face
in the opening round of the 2026 people World Cup.
It will either be Italy or Bosnia.
And the way that we got there was that Italy took care of Northern Ireland,
two nearly yesterday, impressive second half for the Italians.
So they punched their ticket to Bosnia because Bosnia came out of nowhere
with a late equalizer from the 40-year-old striker, Eden Jekko,
and won in a shootout against Wales.
So Wales was a collapse because they had that lead up until the 86 minute.
Yeah.
Ireland was a big collapse because they had a two-nil win or two-nil lead story over the Czechs
but then went on to concede and then lost it in the shootout as well.
It was actually great theater yesterday because the Wales Bosnia shootout was going on
at the exact same time as the Ireland Czechy shootout.
It was so painful for Ireland.
Not only did they have a two-nil lead early in the game,
they had the lead in penalties too.
I know.
And you know, when you get the lead in penalties.
Feeling good.
It's there.
It's almost insane to lose.
Do you know what I mean?
Like because multiple things after that have to go against it.
That's really close to winning and losing.
It is.
It's almost like game seven, Blue Jays Dodgers kind of reminiscent of that.
Very, very sad.
You have one round third, all you gotta do is catch them in.
This is an automatic for Italy though, because they're going to be on the road
in Bosnia, Herzegovina.
Now you set me up nicely here.
So what happened was some sleuthy Bosnian footballing fans caught one of the live feeds
from Italy after their match against Northern Ireland because the Italians then all
gathered and tuned into quite obviously the Wales Bosnia match to see who they were going to play next.
And some of the Italian players were caught on camera openly celebrating
when Bosnia won because it was there under now we won Florida.
Right?
There was that thought about it.
So anyway, a lot of the Bosnian commentators pointed this out being like,
the Italians are happy that they drew us.
Yes, Craig.
What would you say?
The Welsh team falling short is a little disappointed because the Welsh coach had some beef
with Jesse March.
Did he?
Ah, very good, Greg.
You said you were going to draw.
I was disappointed to see that Wales lost.
I thought it was going to heat up the World Cup time.
Craig Bellamy, not to be confused with 90s MTV star Bill Bellamy.
Craig Bellamy in a friendly against Canada last year kind of got into it with Jesse March
a little bit.
And I don't think he liked the way that March was celebrating after one of the Canadian
goals.
Actually, it might have been after a full time after the Canadian.
He was like, see you at the World Cup.
He said I want another crack at Canada at the World Cup because he knew what the path
was going to entail that Wales could get there.
Well, Craig Bellamy will not get a chance.
Yeah, and they actually crashed out of Euro qualifying in 2024 in a similar dramatic
fashion in a shootout.
So real quick, the following matches are going to go on Tuesday.
Winners go to the World Cup.
So you get Bosnian Italy, the winner that goes into Canada's group, Sweden, Poland,
Kosovo, which is looking to qualify for its first ever World Cup, takes on Turkey,
and then Czechia in Denmark in the final one.
There's also the Inter Confederation one, which is, so I, this is how much they
played.
This is how much of a soccer sicko I've become.
I watched Jamaica play New Caledonia yesterday from Mexico.
It was one of the worst organized soccer matches I've ever seen in my life.
Jamaica must have won, right?
One nail.
Was that it?
Jamaica played.
Is that it?
Right down to the level.
Wow.
It was shocking, shocking.
What's the population of New Caledonia?
Six.
I don't know how the managed to feel.
The least 11.
I don't know how they managed to feel.
New Caledonia is the soccer team.
Yeah.
It was shocking.
How bad it was.
It's shocking to me that they were that close to World Cup qualifying, and with all that said,
Laddie, move, Calmy.
I was going to ask you for your predictions.
Sure.
In the UEFA, in the UEFA stuff.
Okay.
So Italy's got to go on the road.
Italy's going to win.
Italy's going to win.
Yeah.
Poland.
They got a goal from Lewandowski, but they were down one nail to Albania.
Yeah, I think Sweden's going to win there.
Sweden's the home team.
But Sweden's the home team.
But Sweden's the home team.
I'm doing the Eucharist.
Okay, no one knows what that is.
He got a hat trick yesterday.
Okay.
Turkey, which is a good footballing nation.
They have to go on the road to Kosovo.
Yeah, I think Turkey's going to win that.
Okay, and then Denmark, which choked badly.
The Denmark should already be qualified for this tournament.
The Scottish were happy they aren't though.
They've got to go to Czechia.
I like Denmark there.
Yeah.
So you're picking three road teams there with only Sweden beating Poland.
Yeah.
That's tough, man.
I know.
It's tough, but those are, I mean, you got to make predictions.
Okay.
Those are my predictions.
Italy, Sweden, Turkey, Denmark.
All right.
Ladi, you have a little bit more.
Yeah, what we learned, the WHO draft lottery, we talked about it yesterday, happened yesterday.
We did talk about it.
And we mentioned that the Giants had two separate picks involved in this lottery.
Well, they won the lottery, you guys.
Yay!
But the wrong ball won.
You can only jump up two spots, and it was their ball that was in the fourth spot.
What?
What?
Where are they picking?
They're picking second and fourth.
Quick pause.
Explain everything again.
So they had a trade where they picked up the first round pick from Winachy.
Okay.
Okay.
That was the ball that won, but it was in the fourth spot.
Oh, and you can only jump up two.
So they actually bumped their original pick back to move up the wrong themselves.
They bumped themselves, essentially.
So now they're second and fourth, still pretty good.
But it's not the first overall pick.
It goes to the Colona Rockets.
I'm going to play balls, one dropped, one rose.
Yeah.
Basically.
Gotcha.
One ball wins the lottery, and it just moves the pick up.
So I'm putting you on the spot here.
Is there an obvious first overall pick?
Yeah.
Not too sure, but the, like, the giants pick is who we were focusing on.
And this kid, Parker McMillan, is the kid that they're probably going to focus on.
Probably not going to go first overall.
It was bandied about, be second or third overall.
So the fact that they're in second spot now is very, very nice.
And he's a local kid too, so that you can play for his hometown team, hopefully.
But we're getting ahead of ourselves.
They haven't made this selection yet.
But Parker McMillan, he's lighting it up for Yale.
Well, maybe he'll play for Parker Burgess.
You're talking about Parker and Parker.
You're, of course, talking about the more popular Yale inhabits for it.
Yes.
Not the Ivy League school.
This is a 14-year-old.
He's also quite bright.
This is a 14-year-old, they're talking about it.
They drive 15-year-old prospectors.
They're driving Duke Houser over here.
Basically.
All right.
There you go.
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There's a long one from Trey from Edmonton.
I'll read most of it, but not all of it.
He says, ask us anything.
I'm a bit tired of this recent notion that this year's draft does not have a true standout number one franchise player.
You just don't know.
McKenna has been regarded last few years as the next big one,
just because he loses a bit of momentum when switching to the NCAA this year.
It does not mean he won't be a tremendous player.
If he was still in the dub this year, he'd be putting up astronomical numbers,
just like Bedard and his draft here.
Did Bedard go to the NCAA?
No.
What are your guys thoughts on the different perceptions of McKenna's game that have shifted
in a negative light the last few months?
Trey, you make a great point that at the end of the day, nobody really knows
if there is a franchise player in a draft or not.
They're in a great draft.
Do you remember the Patrick line A draft?
Everyone was like, oh, this draft is the greatest of all time.
I'm like, yeah, I did have a few good players, but there was a couple that didn't work out.
Then you could end up drafting a guy like, I don't know, Patrice Bergeron.
This is not necessarily.
I 100% agree with that.
The only thing that we've been talking about this show is I like Chris Peters.
I respect his opinion.
I know he does the work.
I think there are some prospects experts that frankly, it's a lot to cover.
And they're asked to cover so much.
I just don't know how you can honestly trust their opinion that they've been dug in on
not only all the prospects that are about to be drafted,
but all the prospects that are in some team system,
and what are you watching?
There's only so much time in the day.
You got to sleep and eat, too.
You can't just be watching hockey over and over again.
You're calling him liars, essentially.
When I watched McKenna at the World Juniors,
I was impressed by his vision and his creativity.
But then it was just my eyes.
I'm just like, this guy doesn't play much defense, does he?
Right?
Any seem to have trouble getting to the inside of the eyes.
Does that mean he's never going to be able to do it?
He's 17 years old.
He's a young guy.
He needs to get stronger.
And I was kind of ticked the opinion of like,
I'll have prospects experts on the show,
and we'll ask them for their opinion.
But my opinion doesn't really get formed until I see them playing for the connox.
I don't have time to go watch.
Are his details there?
I don't know.
I mean, so you kind of just have to trust the people that you trust.
And then you use your own eyes when you're watching the games and tournaments like the World Juniors,
which are sometimes going to lead you down the wrong path because the World Juniors is a tough tournament.
There's a reason they call it a 19 year old tournament.
The progress a player makes from 16 to 17 to 18 to 19 to 20 is just massive.
There's a reason why you see some CHL teams with 20 year old guys that aren't even drafted.
But they're going to lead the team because they're 20.
Yeah.
Richard the hey guy, ask us anything.
Which franchise is in a worse spot?
Tottenham Hotspur?
Oh, the Vancouver connox.
Oh, the connox.
The connox for sure, because Spurs...
And by the way, you can buy your way out of it.
Although if they go to the championship, it becomes more difficult.
They get relegated that I'm willing to re-engage this conversation.
I think Spurs would be right back in the Premier League.
Even if they have to go down, they would be right back in it.
And then they would not necessarily just all of a sudden be a bottom team.
You can buy your way out of issues in the Premier League.
You can.
The relegation does hit you incredibly hard though.
Yeah.
Because what happens is a lot of the players have exit clauses in their contracts where they don't go down.
But you can still go buy players and you can overpay them to make sure that you get back up.
Those rainy Tuesday nights in Stoke.
Like Newcastle did that.
I mean, Leicester City is a different story, but they've had financial issues.
I don't think Tottenham, Hotspur, everyone, broke.
Matt feeling old.
Hashtag AUA, Ask Us Anything.
What was a good time in your 20s compared to what is a good time now?
What are two opposites?
So you know what?
I used to really enjoy in my 20s.
And I just physically can't do it anymore.
Day drinking.
Oh, yeah.
I'm done drinking.
Can't do it.
Yeah.
If I have a couple beers with lunch or a couple drinks, I'm going to need to take a nap and recharge.
You can't.
And I mean recharge until the next day.
Maybe even the day after.
I remember.
Like I used to live for football Sundays where we would get up at 10 o'clock in the morning and it would be Bailey's and coffee.
And that would segue right into some seizures.
And that would segue right into some lunch beers.
But just keep going.
And you, you know, you have a little like downtime in the afternoon, but you're still ready to go.
And I remember.
Alfred, you might have had a problem.
I used to live.
Whenever you come on.
No, you're just, you're just, I totally agree with Alfred.
You used to be able to drink during the day.
And I had a reasonable rate.
But you wouldn't have a crash.
You could just kind of keep it.
And I had a lot to do with like youthful exuberance and energy and everything else.
Yes.
Long gone.
I used to love it.
I loved a good day drinking sash.
March madness used to be the best, right?
I'd skip work or school on Friday.
Go out and, you know, just start at nine o'clock in the morning and have a day, right?
Just casually knock a few back.
That is no longer the case.
Do you ever watch TV shows from?
I do watch TV shows.
From the, I don't want to say like the olden days, but from like, I don't know, the 50s, 60s and 70s.
And they're all drinking during the day.
So the olden days.
Yep.
Yeah, the olden days, right?
Mad men.
Yeah, there's something like that, right?
Or in England, where they're like, do you want a scotch?
Yeah.
It's like it's 930 in the morning.
And they're like, yeah, of course I want a scotch.
Yeah, but I haven't slept in days, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I always wondered.
Or they just, were they just built differently back then?
Or did they just not show the crash?
They're just like, I'm going to have this cigarette and this scotch.
It's 930 more.
Do you have breakfast?
No.
So there's a guy on Instagram and he has this, his entire stick is eat like a president for a day.
So he goes back throughout history and finds the diet.
Oh, okay.
The standard diet, a daily breakfast lunch dinner of some of, you know, obviously the American
president has been through it.
So there's a few of them where it's like, and the day he started off with three glasses
of cider like that.
And that was, you know, and like you're the president was bombed by 1230, right?
And then what it was was just consistent intake of alcohol throughout the day with some
food mixed in.
But there are some older guys in Vancouver that you tell, that could tell you some stories
about some of the lunches that happened in the 70s and 80s in downtown Vancouver when
they were promoting stocks on the Vancouver Stock Exchange or something like that.
And they're like, we just didn't go back to work.
Yeah.
And it was kind of like, well, yeah.
I mean, like no one was texting you to come back.
Yeah.
I did that once after going to five guys though.
I was just really full.
I just couldn't move anymore.
I'm going home.
Dan, the forester, man, our show is getting a little bit older.
I can tell with ask us anything's like even our listenership is getting old.
I text and I'm in my mid 40s and I enjoy a good bowl of soup for lunch.
I look forward to seeing what's the daily soup from a bakery when I go for lunch frequently.
My favorite soup is broccoli cheddar.
Do you guys have a favorite soup?
Tomato soup, baby.
You love this.
Oh, what a great hot one.
This conversation started.
He's toast and tomato soup.
Didn't even let us off.
That's a cold cold day.
A little blanking around.
Yeah.
Put on some TV.
Oh, it's great.
Play some video games.
I've never been a big soup guy.
Really?
Yeah.
How do you eat soup and play video games?
That's very handly.
With a straw.
Yeah.
You got easier hands.
Curly straw.
I mean, can you bring me my soup straw?
Playing games.
I have soup so early that I think I would just take French onion soup.
And I have like that once a year.
Why don't you like soup?
I love French onion soup.
I don't like tomato soup.
Really?
Yeah.
I will say this.
If I have soup for a meal, sometimes I feel like I'm getting ripped off at meal time.
Well, this is the side full conversation.
This is not a compliment.
Completing crackers in it.
Like, it depends on what the soup is.
Crackers are key.
I'd rather just eat the premium plus crackers.
Sure.
Right?
Oh, the plate of crackers, please.
Yeah.
Ginger ale.
We're the crackers guys back.
We're the crackers on restaurant tables now.
Yeah.
You should be able to just like that.
I mean, crackers are expensive, man.
I know.
Right?
Yeah.
You're fine dining at that.
That used to be amazing.
I'd be like, can you get some more crackers here?
Yeah.
Of course.
If you're in a Michelin star restaurant when you have crackers.
Sometimes I wonder about you, buddy.
We got to get out of here for today, but we will be back on Monday.
I think.
Anyway, thank you all for listening.
And thank you all for contributing.
Congrats to our winner.
Steve of the $100 gift card day.
Jay's pizza on.
He's Broadway.
Enjoy that pizza, buddy.
We got to get out of here for now.
I'll signing off.
I have him, Mike Helford.
He's been Jason Bruff.
He's been eight organ.
He's been Ladi.
This has been the Helford and Bruff Show on Sportsnet 650.
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