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Tatiana is on the phone today for a first day follow up.

And she's getting ghosted by a dude named Drew.

So in a few minutes we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.

Maybe get her a second date if she wants one.

But first, Tatiana, let's talk about the date.

How long has it been since you heard from Drew?

It's been almost two weeks and I have texted a few times already.

So I'm a little bit.

I can't really believe the authenticity of that.

That doesn't happen to me.

So I'm a little frustrated to say the least.

Oh no, that is frustrating.

Okay.

Well, why don't you tell us about the date then?

I thought the date went so well.

I think Drew is sort of exactly my type.

He's kind of like a corporate vibe.

But I also feel like he was not too uptight.

He had a lot of swag.

He was wearing this really fancy watch, which I love.

I love a man in a watch.

It looks really expensive.

He smelled expensive.

I was all about it.

We went to one of those elevated adult playgrounds.

I don't know if you guys are talking about.

But I think those can be kind of cheesy.

But I feel like this one was really nice.

Don't play.

No, I haven't heard of that.

That's cool.

I mean, I've seen pictures where pop-ups and staff.

Fun.

Yes.

And this one actually had a really beautiful bar with really good lighting.

I feel like lighting is huge for our first date.

There was bowling and arcade games and mini golf.

You have really cute snacks and fancy cheese for the soft pebbles and stuff like that.

So cool.

Yeah, I felt like the vibes of the date were really fun.

Really competitive, but in a flirty fun way, you know.

I thought it was all going so well.

Yeah.

I think I know what caused the ghosting, but I really want to get confirmation.

When we were on the date, the bill came.

And I noticed that like an extra round of shots had been charged for us.

But he had already paid and he was like, oh, it's no big deal.

Like, I'll just pay.

But like for me, I'm just like, no, you cannot pay for something we did not order.

Like that for me.

It's like the principal kicks in.

Sure.

And I was like, you know, it's not about the money.

It's about the principal.

He was like, it's fine.

And I called the server over and I got the charge removed.

And it got us a free round of bowling, which I was like, okay, nice, you know.

But I felt like we ended on a really good note and we hugged.

And there was no red flags to me.

And I was like so excited for a second date.

And then it's like fully ghosted.

So I guess I just, I don't know.

It's just it's the whole thing super confusing and sad.

Tatiana, why don't you remind us about your date with Drew real quick?

Drew and I went to this like elevated adult playground where we played lots of games.

I thought we had an amazing time.

We were like really flirty and competitive with each other in like a really fun way.

The bill came at the end and there was like an extra charge.

And I got him his money back and like a free round of bowling.

But he was kind of weird about that.

So I'm wondering if that's why he's ghosting me.

Anyway, it's been two weeks.

I thought the date was amazing.

I'm curious like what happened.

Well, are you ready to call him?

Let's do it.

Okay.

Here we go.

Hello.

Hi, man.

Speak to Drew, please.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, Drew.

How are you?

This is the radio show.

It's called the Jubal Show.

Hi, Drew.

I'm Nina.

Hi, I'm Victoria.

Whoa.

Hey.

I'm sorry.

Hi, everybody.

Is the radio?

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

Have you ever listened to the Jubal Show before?

No.

I've never listened.

But I think of her.

Do you guys?

Okay.

Sweet.

Well, check it out sometime.

But right now, we do a segment on the show that's called the first day.

Follow up.

That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you ghost them,

that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them.

And we got an email about you from somebody.

Okay.

Yeah.

Have any idea who would email us and wonder why you're ghosting them?

Is it Tatyana?

It is.

Congratulations.

You got it correct.

There you go.

Would you mind telling us why you're ghosting her?

She told us about your date.

I liked you a lot.

Yeah.

No, no, no.

I mean, I liked her a lot as well.

I really did.

I got to say the, I guess the attraction is mutual.

We had a really good time.

We had a really good time of the date.

Okay.

We went out to one of these adult playground things where there's like boy alleys and, you know,

games for adults who stuff like that and drink in a nice bar and all that stuff.

We were playing games all night, but the thing that kind of got me about,

the thing that kind of made me so weird was that she cheated at like everything.

What do you mean?

Like actually?

I mean, like, no, I mean, like all of it, like the games, like she was cheating.

Like, so, okay, so we played mini golf.

And while we're playing, she's nudging the ball with her foot and she's leaning on,

like, we're playing arcade games.

She's leaning on the machine.

I start playing and she's trying to distract me.

So I don't do it's good.

We played one of those claw machine games.

And those things, you guys know, those things suck.

They're hard.

Yeah.

And I turn, I go to the bathroom.

I come back and she has this stuffed animal.

I never see how she gets it.

It's just in her arms.

And I know she's got like a red mark on her shoulder.

I'm like, did you reach into the machine?

No.

No.

That's hard to do.

I've tried.

It's very hard to do, but I mean, it's hard.

The whole time.

So I was like, she's probably good at that too.

Did she do it?

Did she reach into the machine to get one?

Well, I don't know.

I mean, but the way it was set up, you were not pulling the stuffed animal out of it.

There's no way.

I don't know.

I don't know.

She's the girl that sticks her hand in to get what she wants.

Yeah.

And honestly, as red as a shoulder was, you can tell I'm pretty sure she's, I'm pretty sure

she stole it.

Okay.

So you don't want to go out with her again because you think that she stole a stuffed animal

from the machine?

Well, it's not that it was the constant cheating.

I'm just like, if that's how you are here.

We're playing games.

I don't know.

I know she's not going to cheat on me.

That's how she operates.

Starts with a ski ball.

And then it's all down here.

I guess.

Thank you for telling us where you're ghosting her.

And now Drew, I'll let you know she's on the phone and wants to talk to you.

Wait.

I'm sorry.

She's going to lie to you here.

Yep.

She's here to listen.

I do.

Hey.

Hi.

Um.

I'm sorry.

My jaw is like on the floor.

I'm like, you're mad that I won at the game.

No, I'm not.

No.

Okay.

Well, let's be clear.

I'm mad.

You didn't win.

You manipulated system by cheating.

I did not manipulate.

I played smart.

That's what you do at those places.

You play smart.

That doesn't get me playing smart and stealing a stuffed animal.

That's what you did.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

You are obsessing about this stuff.

I won't not stuffed animal.

Okay.

I saw your arm.

You have a mark on your arm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And what I can imagine is you got 30 animals.

I'm looking at it.

The security guard kept them looking at us and following us.

I mean, okay.

Okay.

Here's the whole thing.

Here's the whole thing.

If I see you doing this now, let's say.

I started picturing our lives together.

Right?

Okay.

If you want to have a restaurant.

And suddenly you're yelling because there's hair in your food.

You know.

Okay.

If there's hair in my food, I'm sending the food back.

That's like.

In this scenario, you put your hair in the food to get it free.

Oh.

Wow.

Wow.

Oh, my hair out.

What?

Okay.

I imagine if you and me were on a cruise, right?

Let's say you were on a cruise.

Oh, a red flag number two.

You're not going to go on a cruise with me.

How did we get here?

Hey, we're on the cruise.

I can see you rigging the shuffleboard tournament to get a free buffet voucher or something like that.

You know.

Okay.

I can see you rigging the shuffleboard tournament to get a free buffet voucher or something like that.

You know.

Okay.

I get overcharged.

I'm getting my money back.

That's plain and simple.

Honestly.

Okay.

Drew.

Drew, Drew, Drew.

Just stay with me for one second.

I feel like what you're telling me is that you have in fact like pictured our lives together.

Which tells me that there is something here.

Okay.

And yeah, I have.

I have in my version of our life together.

You play a shuffleboard and she's against some poor old lady.

She got there.

She got there.

Drew.

Spanner retirement fund on the.

No.

She needs something.

You're hoping.

Drew.

Okay.

I'm sorry, but I feel like you.

I have to say I feel like you can't stop thinking about me.

Okay.

I want you to listen to me when I say like I was having a lot of fun.

But I also.

Like I will.

I will let you be the man.

What?

What?

Like I.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

I thought we were having fun.

But I like.

I know how to relax.

I will.

You know, I'm really agreeable.

I.

I'm one of those girls.

Like I will wear whatever you want.

I will.

Do whatever you want.

Like whatever you want the plan to be.

I will do.

I.

I really don't care about winning.

That much.

I just want you to be.

I just want.

I just want.

I just want us to like.

I just thought there was a lot of chemistry.

And I really want to see you again.

And I think you want to see me again too.

Drew.

Would you like to go out with Tatiana again?

We'll pay for it.

Well.

The chemistry was there.

You know, I have been thinking about it a lot.

And I do want to see her again.

But you know what?

Tatiana, you're.

You're a little intense.

And I.

Have some strong questions about your morals.

Like.

I.

I like that you're being honest.

I like what you're saying.

I like that you.

Do you have been thinking about me?

I have been thinking about you too.

Um.

And I think it is going to be okay with it.

I think we can work out a fair system.

That's fair.

The sister.

I did not see it going this way.

So are you saying you'll go out with her again?

It's a fair system.

She's showing you that she's not always that like at 100.

So I mean, I think that.

Yes, because I have been thinking about her a lot.

Well, okay.

Congratulations, Tatiana.

You got another day.

Great.

Get it.

Thank you.

Okay.

That's what I thought.

Thank you.

God.

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