Disney Exec Reportedly “Didn’t Want To Know Too Much” about Taylor Frankie Paul's Behavior (and Videos)

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and overnight, a number of developments.

And the fallout after the canceling of the Bachelorette

and the Cover Yone-S is well underway and might just be getting started.

And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

Robes is certainly a number of developments to get to.

And I'm not even sure where to start, but the news is everywhere now.

The Bachelorette was canceled for this season.

We got new statements overnight.

We heard from her ex.

We heard from Taylor Frankie Paul.

We heard from Disney.

And we heard some pretty damning stuff from an NBC news report

about a meeting in which an executive was warned

that there were videos out there.

That's a lot where you want to start.

Yeah.

Look, the timeline, I was actually trying to piece it all together

how this unfolded because it's a lot of finger pointing

as we were expecting, a lot of statements flying,

and a lot of who knew what when and why and how did we get to yesterday.

That is the big question.

So yeah, this investigation actually was February 24th and 25th.

That's what kind of started this whole thing.

This domestic violence investigation, correct?

So that created all of the snowball effect of now where we are.

So we're now hearing about this March 7th Zoom with the cast with NBC executives.

Why woke up this morning?

You pointed this out to me.

Babe, you got to read what NBC is reporting.

And again, somebody is going to have to take the fall for this.

Somebody is going to get blamed and I wouldn't be surprised if somebody got fired.

This is too much money.

This is too much of an investment and this is too much of a high profile,

high stake situation that somebody is not going to ask the question,

why didn't we know about this?

How could you let this happen?

And that appears, Rob's to please explain to people who Rob Mills is over at Disney

and why now this is a pretty rope.

This is damning and this was the one and some of this,

he's going to have to answer for.

That's right.

So Rob Mills is the executive vice president of unscripted and alternative entertainment at Disney.

So he is the big guy.

And yes, that's reality TV basically falls under his domain, so to speak.

And so apparently he got on a Zoom with the cast members of the secret lives of Mormon wives

to reassure them that they care about their safety because the women were expressing concern

about what they call dangerous behavior of their friend Taylor Frankie Paul.

And it was in that call and NBC News has reviewed.

They did get the audio of the Zoom call in the Zoom call.

Tim of the day again.

It was on March 7th.

Okay, March 7th.

The show was supposed to premiere on March 22nd.

So on March 7th, a Disney exec was in a meeting in which he was told not just about violent behavior,

but the existence of videos.

His responses, Robes, as reported by NBC News are, should we be surprised,

but to see it given all that's happening now, Robes, this is going to be problematic for him.

This is damning for him.

And these are quotes again from NBC who reviewed the Zoom call.

So again, you've got the members of the cast saying that they are concerned about distressing

and upsetting video recordings that are out there.

They specifically referenced that.

And so Rob Mills says, I don't know a lot nor do I want to know too much.

This is not putting my head in the stand.

But it's not me, you know, I don't want to inquire because I don't know what that does.

Apparently the cast members double down and said, do you know that,

or they asked Mills if he was aware that she's heard a child?

And he said, I don't think for us getting into it is right.

And then he added, the company is never going to hide anything that is wrong for the sake of business.

This is going to be a problem.

Somebody's going to have to answer.

He's going to have to answer that.

Disney's going to have to answer that.

What did you know when and did you really put your head in the stand?

His words for the sake of this show.

Did he not know because he didn't want to know?

Is being presented to you.

That's what it comes off as.

We want to save room.

Leave room here for context.

That's missing.

We didn't see the whole video.

What else was said.

We do not know.

But those were the quotes that they put out.

Robes, that sounds like willful ignorance to some degree.

It sounds like, whoa, I heard something.

Don't say anything else.

I want plausible deniability later.

Plosible deniability.

That is exactly what that sounds like.

But when you hear him say it, it seems very deliberate.

I want to be able to deny this.

So don't tell me anymore.

I don't want to know what I don't want to know.

How is that okay when you're putting up a show like the Vashlorette?

The blame game is barely, barely just getting started.

Obviously they knew about her previous conviction.

Guilty plea, I should say.

They knew about that.

How much they knew about the video.

I don't know.

We all said, Robes, how could they not know?

It was talked about at the time.

Surely the news was floating around out there somewhere.

Well, the other thing is, in the how could they not know,

they referenced that the production company,

overseeing secret lives of Mormon wives,

had a private investigation.

We talked about how that had to have been the case

where they hired a private law firm to investigate

these back and forth allegations being made

by Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortensen.

When they knew a police, there was an open, active police investigation

from incidents in February, February 24th and 25th.

Of course they're going to have someone investigating that.

So they said that they were doing that.

And then if you actually just look at the indictment,

do what TMZ did, go in there and see what was alleged,

it is clear a video is mentioned that there is a video of the incident.

So the knowledge of a video was there.

So they were aware.

Okay.

And they decided to go forward with it,

knowing about the guilty plea.

Okay.

If Disney, this is one way I would have stood by Disney,

if they would have come out and said,

yep, we knew about the conviction.

It changes nothing just because we see the video

and we're moving forward.

How we go, okay, I'm mad at them.

I actually would have said, okay, you knew about it.

The video changes nothing.

We knew about it just because the...

We knew about it and accepted it.

But they didn't do that, Rob.

They got out of the Taylor, Frankie Paul business almost immediately.

How long was it a matter of an hour or so after the video?

It was a little more than an hour.

Got public.

And it was done.

Well, we talked about this earlier in the week

when the first allegations came out

about this second open investigation

that Mormon wives was on pause.

Cinebon says, yeah, we're out.

So we were wondering, what are they going to do?

What do they do?

They rolled Taylor Frankie Paul out

on her press events.

Had her talk to news outlets.

Had her sit down and do a live interview

with Good Morning America.

So they were pushing ahead.

And we thought to ourselves, what is going to happen

if a video was released?

If something is going to be released

and we said they're going to see how people react.

They're going to look at the reaction

and make decisions based on public sentiment

not on what is right or wrong

or what is best for the show or best for the network

or the right thing to do.

It was all going to be based on public opinion.

And that is what we saw.

Okay, fine.

I don't know if it's a business.

I won't get into the Disney in the back and forth

and any type of moral judgments,

even business judgments,

regardless of the decision that was made.

I was just thinking then, what if the show had launched

and then the video came out?

Well, that would have been so interesting.

I don't know.

They probably would have pulled it

in the middle of the season.

They would have had to.

That would have been a tougher decision

or a look for Disney,

but how bad is it look that you all knew this

and we're still willing to go forward with?

Is that a bad look at all?

They are going to be able to say,

we didn't know.

We didn't see it.

It was represented to us as something different.

They're going to have to do that.

Oh, yes.

Robes, we have actually predicted this story

almost 100% accurately every step of the way.

We have.

And it's been recorded.

That does not mean to be arrogant about it,

but you see these, it's not even tealies.

It's almost a bin there, done that.

Know how this is about to happen.

It is a bin there, done that.

Absolutely.

And also, not shocking.

We're Taylor Frankie Paul statement.

She had one statement when the video came out.

You said not shocking?

No.

The second one shocked me.

She doubled down.

Shocked me.

But it's all about blaming someone else.

Isn't that what we see from everybody,

from politicians to celebrities?

It's just no one.

Almost no one.

There are a few people in the world who take accountability,

but almost no one does.

And so her initial statement, yes,

blamed Dakota, blamed Dakota, blamed Dakota.

This is before ABC canceled the Bachelorette.

Then once ABC canceled the Bachelorette,

we got a whole new statement,

which yes, our jaws did drop,

but it isn't that shocking actually when you think about it.

So here is what they said.

Taylor is very grateful for ABC support

as she prioritizes her family's safety and security.

After years of silently suffering,

extensive mental and physical abuse,

as well as threats of retaliation,

Taylor is finally gaining the strength

to face her accuser and taking steps to ensure

that she and her children are protected from any further harm.

There are too many women who are suffering in silence.

As they survive, aggressive, jealous, ex-partners

who refuse to let them move on with their lives.

Taylor has remained silent

out of fear of further abuse, retaliation,

and public shaming.

She is currently exploring all of her options,

seeking support, and preparing to own and share her story.

I have right.

This is a direct, she is directly accusing Dakota Mortensen

of physical abuse of her.

Is that correct?

Absolutely.

So what does it think?

Those are the lines in there.

Survive, aggressive, ex-as well as that line.

Aggressive, jealous, ex-partners.

Survive, aggressive, jealous.

Okay, babe.

So we are now putting a position

that we don't have a choice,

but to listen to her and support her

because she has just said that she is a victim

of domestic violence.

The conversation stops.

Because isn't that what happens?

This is a woman who has stood up and said,

I am a victim like so many other women

who are suffering in silence.

I am the victim of domestic violence.

I'm going to tell you my story later.

There is no, haven't hasn't she?

Short of that video.

But she is suggesting robes that she is the victim

in all of this.

And when a woman does that publicly robes,

what else can anyone do?

You can't question her story.

Well, she hasn't really given a story yet.

Number one, number two,

it is very important to note,

Dakota Mortensen has never been charged with a crime.

And there have been no other accusations

against him other than from Taylor.

And when police did the investigation

of what happened in that video in 2023,

notably, she was charged and he was not.

We don't know what is going to come out

of this next investigation that's going on

from what happened in February.

But certainly, right now,

no one is other than Taylor saying

that Dakota had done anything wrong.

OK, but she's saying it.

This is a woman who robes the language

in that is specific to positioning her

as a victim who wants a community around her.

I'm like you.

This is happening to me.

I've been suffering in silence.

I was fearful of, right?

It was just a quick mention.

I say quick, but a passing mention of

what was the physical abuse line in there?

She said she has been silently suffering

extensive mental and physical abuse

as well as threats of retaliation.

OK, she has that was kind of a passing mention.

She has suffered mental and physical abuse.

That is clearly calling him a domestic abuser.

Is she not?

She absolutely is doing that.

Then I took issue or I have questions.

She is surviving aggressive access.

What does that mean, baby?

And suffering and silence.

I'm sorry.

No, don't beat it.

We can't do this.

No, I'm just saying she has publicly said this week

that she speaks her truth.

That she's known for that.

That that's her brand.

OK, but that I can't.

I don't know.

She has to be listened.

We have to shut up.

What do you do?

You cannot criticize her anymore?

Isn't that right?

I disagree because of the video

that we're seeing.

Look, there is the other point where, yes, people hear her out.

We will listen to her.

And we will let police do their investigating

like we know they are doing right now.

But the point being is what we have is a video

that does speak for itself.

It's kind of, I was likening it yesterday

to what we saw from Christy Knowham

where we saw what we saw in Minneapolis

and she's telling us that something completely different happened.

Yes.

I am seeing a video and I am hearing her

describe something very different.

OK, well, she has not done

and she's been talking a lot since the allegations came out.

Before the video, even the allegations out,

she has not hinted once

at having any responsibility for anything that has taken place.

That is correct.

Is that right?

Yes.

Not a hint.

Not a, oh, that was ugly moment on my part.

Nothing, right?

Is that being, is that the next statement coming?

Her admitting something?

Yeah.

I don't know about that.

Didn't feel like it.

Didn't feel like it.

Well, she wasn't the only one talking yesterday.

We did hear from Disney.

We heard from Dakota Mortensen,

the ex as well, who is in that video.

Stay here.

We'll let you hear what all those sides had to say.

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A number of developments in the whole Bachelorette fallout season

has been canceled.

Actually, ropes.

Let me hit that before I forget.

Canceled.

But they use some specific language

that made a suggestion to seeing this thing

could come back later as soon as y'all calmed down.

That's funny because I was going to point that out too.

The question is, will they ever air the season?

They gave themselves room to do so at a later date.

If you look at their actual statement, there are three words

that jumped out to both of us.

We have made the decision to not move forward

with the new season of the Bachelorette at this time.

At this time.

Okay.

Stand by.

Who knows?

I mean, maybe they'll, maybe they'd feel more comfortable

putting it on Hulu in six months.

Maybe it doesn't air on ABC.

Maybe they put it on more of a streaming service

where it feels okay to have something controversial on the air.

I don't know.

They did give themselves room to do it.

They absolutely did it.

The other day, what we heard from Dakota

in a couple of statements, one from his people,

I think he gave one directly to TMZ.

Correct.

The one directly to TMZ said this seems to be

a direct response to what we just read

in terms of Taylor Frankie Paul's statement,

accusing him of being a domestic violence abuser.

He said, as anyone who has seen the video will understand,

this is a deeply upsetting situation.

I am, unfortunately, used to these baseless claims about me

and our relationship, which I categorically deny.

I am focusing on our son and his safety

and hope the Taylor will do the same.

And from the rep, they said that Dakota's number one priority here

is protecting his son.

He knew there was a possibility it could come out,

meaning the video.

But he was not going to be the one to proactively do that

because he has always wanted a decent relationship with Taylor.

It's been really hard to achieve that,

but he wants to co-parent well.

He just, he was just hoping that if he says nothing,

as he usually does, it would go away.

He's never done any kind of sit-down interview about his side.

He just lets it all happen to him.

And I think he realizes with the severity of everything now,

that he just can't do that.

Are they saying in that statement,

he is not responsible for the leaking of the video?

Yes.

Are they saying he is not responsible for the leaking of the video?

And TMZ hasn't suggested that either.

This was a part of the police investigation.

So it is possible that they were able to either obtain the video

through a Freedom of Information Act

or they knew someone there who somehow gave it to them.

But yes, he is denying that he gave it.

And also, this is a big headline.

Yesterday, Thursday, he filed a restraining order,

a protective order against Taylor Frankie Paul.

That's a big deal.

And there are now reports that he will be seeking custody as well.

So this is going to have significant, significant effects on everybody.

That's how you write a statement.

I don't know if it's, how much of it's true.

I don't know.

I mean, it's just his side.

But they hit on some points that you go,

okay, that kind of makes sense.

And I'm not, I have no idea.

He was accused of domestic violence by her as well,

not a restaurant or anything.

But we don't know the full story.

But they're hit on some things.

He's a father.

Oh, yeah, by the way,

you notice he hasn't been talking, right?

When you make that statement,

he hasn't.

He hasn't.

And all the reports are,

he has been abused for a while.

And he's the one who keeps refusing to call police.

Other people have done so.

And babe, that is a good point because we found out yesterday

that he wasn't the one who actually called police on these incidents.

His friends literally saw bruises and lacerations on him

and called police to tell them what had happened.

So that is interesting and significant.

And it isn't as if he was calling to be vindictive.

It does seem that other people were actually concerned

about his safety and their relationship.

I don't have to leave open whatever possibility.

We just don't know what happened between those two.

But we know what police think happened.

We know what police have done in the past.

And we know what now ABC and Disney have done.

We should mention secret lives of Mormon wise.

That show is on hiatus right now.

I say hiatus.

It's shut down production.

And you know what's interesting?

It wasn't that the production company shut it down.

The women did.

They said they did not want to continue filming

while this police investigation was going on.

And that's why they were bringing their concerns to Disney executives.

And look, babe, we sat down and watched the last episode of the last season

because there was so much said about what was going on between Taylor and Dakota.

And it was frankly kind of appalling to see how she was going into the Bachelorette

where her mind was, where her heart was, where her head was.

It...

I was surprised and shocked that ABC and Disney were okay

with that final episode of the secret lives of Mormon wives

leading into the Bachelorette.

That episode completely discredits

what was supposed to be the upcoming season of the Bachelorette.

It completely discredited.

Robes, we watched that yesterday

and I said, we absolutely got bamboozled.

This was a joke from the start.

This was not a search for love.

This was not a...

There was nothing authentic about her going into it.

Robes, it was almost offensive.

She didn't even want to get on the plane.

She didn't even want to go to California,

day before shooting for the Bachelorette,

sends her mom and her sister with her kids.

You all go.

I don't want to go.

Wouldn't get out of it.

And her mom kept screaming the same thing over and over

because mom gets it.

You have an upper tunity.

Don't blow it.

Her mom knows you actually have

a domestic violence charge on your record.

And a company like ABC,

with a show as important to it,

a legacy show like Bachelorette

is handing it to you to be a star.

This is everything for you, Taylor.

Come on.

And she refused.

And what was the last thing she said

and the last person she talked to

before she got out of the vehicle

to start being filmed for Bachelorette?

Dakota Mortensen,

where they each told each other

that they loved each other.

And Dakota said,

multiple times,

save a rose for me.

That is a joke.

That's a joke.

Any man who came and went on that show

in good faith had to be so pissed off.

Pist.

When they saw that episode.

And we are standing by,

we will make another prediction.

Those guys are going to sue.

The production company,

they're going to sue Disney.

They might even sue Taylor,

Frankie Paul.

Those guys are lawyers in there right now.

100%.

You said that almost immediately.

And I just wait for it.

Just wait for it.

All right, folks.

Well, happy Friday to you.

I'll just get the day started

with those updates.

Look for the morning run.

It'll be up on the feed here.

But it's all your turn.

It's been a while.

And now it's just a moment.

And hopefully I'll keep it in mind.

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with us on behalf of my dear,

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