Do we want "heels" representing Nebraska?: March 10th, 2026, 11:25am

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Bill Bennett, you're right.

He says that I think AJ feeds off that kind of stuff though.

He does.

He does.

It's the juice, right?

It's the sauce.

Bach is a friend of the heel in pro wrestling.

So they understand the mark.

And AJ uses it as fuel.

The funny thing is, is that you will have, so we talk about the thirds, right?

That a third of the crowd will boo him incessant from the moment.

Anytime he's mentioned to anything he does, they will boo.

Then there's the third that will cheer everything.

And those are usually, especially when it comes to AJ, those are the young people.

The young wrestlers in the building love AJ.

They love them some AJ for our is, matter of fact, most of them are agitating the third

who's booing who are the old heads.

The old heads.

Get out of here with your shenanigans and your, but the young kids are like, mom, dad,

grandpa, cheesy, stop it.

We love this guy.

And then there's the middle third of folks who are just kind of watching the other, the

two extremes go, okay, the guy's wrestling.

There's, think about this, the in the era of this sort of wrestling.

There's one AJ for our, there's one.

There's not, there's not another wrestler who can walk into any building that they walk

into and get the reaction to the AJ for our again.

There's none.

He's it, like, he's, he's reached Christian Latener status, right?

Right?

Yeah.

Like, who are those iconic, like, Bosworth?

Yeah.

Latener.

I mean, Reddit had a tough time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right?

Like Duke builds it.

Yeah.

Duke builds it.

Duke.

Think about that.

That's funny though.

That Duke level.

That means that Nebraska wrestling is at Duke basketball level, right?

In that, because if he's just a jerk on a bad program, you don't care.

If he's not very good, you don't care.

One you have to be good.

The program has to be good and the events have to matter.

Is there anybody else in sports?

That's the college level that could walk into any gym state.

Like baseball doesn't have villains like that.

Do they?

I can't think of one, especially the college level, right?

Think about that.

Marshall Henderson comes to mind from last decade or so.

Is there is there somebody from Iowa?

Maybe the coach?

Like coaches can generate that sort of heat, right?

Basketball is who's, who's the least when it comes to going into other buildings?

Like who comes to, to, to PBA and the fans just give him the, the business?

Well, I don't know.

McCaffrey, maybe, maybe Tom Kreen had quite a rivalry with Tim Miles.

I think that was that, you know, for a while there was that.

But then there's no, I can't think of a player and athlete.

I don't think, I don't think we hated Katelyn Clark like that.

No, I don't think so.

Right?

Like, I, I don't think so.

I mean, she was the target in every building and she was the focus in every building.

But think about that.

We're literally putting AJ Ferrari in the Katelyn Clark conversation.

You have to be really good.

You have to be, you have to be generationally good for it to matter.

And then you have to have a different sort of persona.

Nebraska's never had.

Think about that.

Is, is there any other Husker who got that reaction in any other building that they went

into in the Big 10?

I wouldn't think so.

In that, you're, that there's, there's not, so this is what, but this is what happens.

Listen, they didn't boo Ridge love it.

He was an athlete.

They like, they, here's what also happened.

They're starting to get after trelley, which is, you know, style of wrestling or whatever

else.

And for a variety of reasons, right?

He and Mentor, they got after a little bit.

They did not go after Kim McDaniel.

They don't go after Brock Hardy.

But AJ Mentor and, and Ferrari, folks are getting after it, but just pointed, just pointed

there.

Now we get into the sticky wicked part of the basketball season because focus, priority,

mission, like all those things.

Yeah.

Yeah.

John Burrill.

Yeah.

You just, you literally just made my point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, the songbird asks this question, do, do we want to heal representing Nebraska?

I don't think that AJ's a heal, though.

I don't think anybody is actually met AJ thinks he's a bad guy.

There are people that don't know AJ and you're, you're basic at off of an example.

But then I always tell people get care, be careful.

Be cautious taking the one, the one off or the two off and go, okay, that to a person

is even if I've never met them and understand that, you know, we're correcting a long way

in that.

Oh, my goodness.

We're being judged by what we do as college students, because I can tell you, you were judged

that way back in 1980, the B wouldn't be sitting here, just going to say, I had heal tendencies

in college.

You have to, the greatest, the greatest face turns when you were a heal and you find out

that, you know what, I was wrong.

There's a nicer way to do this.

Uh,

Bock, are you the same guy that you were when you were in college?

Oh, no, and it's just anybody in general, I mean, you point out the five worst times

of your life with everybody with, that's why they say, yeah, skeleton, they're closing.

Every would be a terrible people.

Yeah, I, you know, listen, that is not my testimony, bro.

My testimony is I did not have it right.

I did not, I did not have it right for a long time after college.

I took too many college tendencies and turned them into adult tendencies and then I had

to learn, hey, bro, it's time to put that child as much as now.

Um, and there was no internet.

Thank goodness.

There's no internet because who we, your boy, your boy.

So, I mean,

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Would probably be a great representation of Nebraska.

Has been, yeah. Right?

And they're booing him.

They're booing him.

Right?

In all academic, all American and Christopher Mento.

He would be a great representation in Nebraska, right?

Yeah.

I mean, Charlie's from Nebraska, Nebraska, born and bred.

And a national champion as an underclassman.

And a lower seeded.

I got it came up from through some stuff.

Took a loss and early loss at the big 10 and then figured it out and then won a national title.

Nebraska should probably rally for that kid, right?

When other people boo a hometown hero.

You should stand up about it.

You should know that this is happening.

Like you would want to know.

A big part of going back to Utah Valley for Nebraska wrestling is recruiting for one,

two, partnership, three to to to to to represent and show the iconic wrestler,

Scottie Robertson and Brock Hardy back in their home home state.

And the reception.

That is how the reception should be.

And it's amazing to watch how this thing.

Yeah, Eric, it's a thing, right?

We understand.

And Jordan Burle still gets some of that heat quite frankly.

Right?

He really does.

Um, Songbird says this.

I'm a rally fan trouble, but I'm not sure how to feel about AJ.

Have you met AJ?

The reason why we brought AJ in to do his show on Wednesday night is so you could you could meet young man.

There is not a young.

Now, hey, Bob, don't we tend to give credit for people who've gone through some,

some failure and some friction and then try to get it right?

Yeah.

You know, it's only cheer for the person who failed and gets up and tries to do right.

They come back stories, right?

Like we, we tend to do that, right?

Especially when it's a young person who then chooses you to represent themselves,

the better version of themselves.

Through to say that my resurrection and my reclamation project.

I'm going to sacrifice firmly with the beliefs and stylings and and faith systems of Nebraska.

That I want to do it because he tugs at the Nebraska singlet.

For this that, hey, I want to represent this.

I want to be a fair represent.

And I can tell you that on the mat and in, in, in, in gyms.

I want to be a wrestling dojo that is brother that cave.

There's nobody works harder.

He may be the hardest working athlete I've ever seen.

Like I don't know anybody that works out as hard as AJ for or that is a discipline in his,

in his and what he puts in his body and how, how he's living.

What he was versus what he is.

And then what is he intentionally trying to be?

And I think he's trying to be a great representative of the state of Nebraska.

Now I got the opportunity to spend time with his dad and mom and sister.

At the airport as well.

And in a pretty profound long conversation.

We've seen each other several times, adapted up and along the way.

But yesterday sitting and talking and not talking wrestling, but talking life and family and love and faith and all those things.

I understand how impressive the man is and how impressive this couple is because they've created three top tier athletes.

Two of them will be all Americans, right?

Two of them already all, you know, all American.

One is an actual champion. The other is.

One take down away from it.

And the third who quite frankly.

Maybe as athletic as the as the older two.

So whatever they're doing to get their young people.

Prepare to one hand of the academic load to the handle the athletic load and then be a fair representation.

Again, ones at Nebraska, ones at Iowa.

Hey, Bob.

How many parents you know are putting several kids in those programs at the top level?

There's not many. Right. There's not many.

So foundationally, there's some good things happening.

And you can focus on, you know what?

Remember the time you stubbed your toe.

That's who you are more than you could run five miles, right?

On on top level time.

But you stubbed your throat tripped and fell.

And that's the video people show, right?

That's not who that doesn't tell you about the five miles.

You can talk about Brock hearty being caught in the in the title, right?

It may.

This might have had him all over social media.

Yeah.

But that's a Brock.

That's a Brock hearty.

I know.

I understand that that's a part of it.

But watching Brock hearty grow through that and the growth from that.

I'm certainly capable of giving Brock hearty credit for being.

The other version of himself as well.

And that in his humanity, he had a bad day on a, on a big stage.

But he's had many great days on that same stage.

He's had great days on many of the other days.

AJ Ferrari, what he's doing.

A guy who is not a natural heavyweight moving up to heavyweight and finishing second in the big 10 and being the number two C.

In the country.

He's not a natural heavyweight.

He won his title with a lower weight, too low, too low.

Bach, what are we doing?

So I don't know.

I can't tell anybody who to choose to represent you.

If you have a problem with it, you're right.

You're absolutely right.

Let me, let me be clear.

I don't tell Bach who to root for.

Like he, if he wants to root for Dominic.

Mysterio.

Hey, man.

Have at it.

Have at it, Bach.

I think he's not exactly the, you know, hand the, the, the, the ball to the official once you cross the goal.

I'm telling you guys.

So if you've got your different opinions here, but I like that.

That kind of a bravado from, from an athlete or two.

I like the smurs and the touchdown leap.

I love Jimmy Smith Smith's cabbage patch in the Super Bowl.

I love Ricky Sanders.

Doing the cabbage bed as the White House and Ronald Reagan called him out and threw a touchdown pass.

I listen, but I also understand Barry Sanders tossing the ball through the official.

I grew up on Charlie Taylor catching touchdown passes and just standing in the end zone with the ball in one hand in his hands.

Not moving, just going, I have done all that I can do.

What else is there?

I'm okay with all of.

But I am certainly for the people who are trying to represent themselves better.

For themselves and the state of Nebraska.

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