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Well, I was going to start the show right here, but are you eating?

Have you got a mouthful?

No, no, I'm done.

No, but you were just a second ago. What's for breakfast?

I was having a, so I'm at Ali's house again because, as I said, the roof is still being done.

So this is Ali's office, and that's Ali's guitar behind me.

And Ali provides me with a tray which has got coffee, water.

And it's like being in a hotel and a biscuit.

This is a meridith Drew since 1830, irresistible oat crunch.

The only issue with oat crunch is that it has little flakes of oat in.

And when you're doing radio and stuff, picking them out of your teeth for the rest of the

process, yeah, and just a little, a, a, a, a, a, a, moment.

Are you quite few of those?

Are you recovered?

Well, here's the closest that I can, this doesn't really work as an analogy.

You know, when you're downloading something, and you've got the swirly ball,

and you're like 90% downloaded, and the final 10% just takes forever to arrive.

Yes.

I feel as though I am, I'm in that swirly ball of.

You're in the finalizing period.

Yeah, but my goodness me, does it go on forever?

So, um, you look better.

You look better.

And that's a filter I've obviously got on my laptop.

You know, the filter that I use on, uh, uh, what's the one, uh, zoom?

Um, is the one that I was taught to use, play M of fraud?

Yeah, there was a COVID one, wasn't it, to make the touch up one.

A touch up one that makes you look, you know, it looks sort of, you know,

more clamor than I, I didn't know about it.

And once, once she told me about it, it was like, oh, my word.

This is just one.

Yeah.

I think we both used it and didn't really look any more glamorous or well, but still.

So, uh, on the show, on the show, what, what are you going to be talking about later on?

Well, we have a packed buffet of reviews.

We have, um, hoppers, which is the new film from Pixar.

Obviously we spoke to peak doctor a few weeks ago.

We have picky blinders, the immortal man, which, as the title suggests, is the picky blinders movie.

There's the oat crunch in your throat.

Yeah.

Um, got it.

We have the bride exclamation mark, the bride, uh, which is the new film by Maggie Gyllenhaal

and mother's bride with our special guest, uh, who is Martin Clunes, uh, last seen as he

indeed wrote to us last seen with the mouthful of vomit being kicked in the head by Marco Robby.

Yes.

So there's a couple that was just on a train.

Yeah, that's right.

So, um, so there's Martin Clunes, uh, with two movies essentially to talk about.

Mm-hmm.

One is a little bit more of, uh, weathering heights and the other, um, is Mother's Pride.

Wrought to you by the team that did Fisherman's friend.

Yes.

Which kind of, that's sort of what you need to know.

It's even the title of Fisherman's Friends, Mother's Pride.

There you go.

Um, and in take two, what are you up to?

There's a new horror movie out and I have to say it's for horror, you know, there's only

why is it just for the fission others only?

Well, it's, it's not something that's going to hit a big mainstream audience.

It is definitely, it is a shudder release and it is, I'm feel like I'm reviewing it in advance,

but it's, it's, it's, it's a festival favourite, shall we say?

And in take two, you'll get even more of the good stuff, including five questions.

Film Club each week.

We pick a film that's on streaming services.

Mark Tackles are five big questions.

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This week's choices were deliverance, weathering heights from 2011 and with nail and eye.

Plus as the bride, the bride, Juan Dexclamassion is out this week.

We'll have further discussion on your top Frankenstein related movies in one frame back.

Plus questions, schmessions in which we answer the question.

Is a whoopan and a hollarin during exciting films such as crime 101, a violation of the code?

Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it?

And whether there are regional differences allowed.

Regional differences in a whoopan and a hollarin.

Yeah, because in America, they whoopan, hollarin more than they do in,

Oh, right.

Regional like that.

I thought you might like, you know, if you were like, if you were like, in Echoesley,

and someone went, buy it.

That's anybody want to come on.

Okay.

And a couple of emails before we get to hoppers.

Yes.

Matthew Payne says, I'm a mark.

I'm the father of a 26 year old woman who suffers from Tourette's.

I've written this email in my head over and over, but what I wanted to say boils down to this.

Simon, you would never consider suggesting that someone should have, quote,

had a conversation with Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo and said that there is a man with

Tourette's in the audience.

So perhaps since there's a risk you might use words that will insult you

and use racial words, racial slang, you don't come on stage.

I watch my daughter hide herself away from the world that doesn't understand or accept

that her tics in her case physical, not verbal are involuntary.

A world that won't make the effort to see the wonderful young woman beyond those symptoms.

Every single day we encourage her to try again,

to find the courage to go out, to interact with the world around her.

For her to hear your comments on a podcast that is such a beacon of tolerance and compassion hurt.

I don't know what the solution is for those suffering from Tourette's.

I wish with all my heart that I did, but I do know this.

Yes, tics, whilst involuntary can be extremely offensive and disturbing for people in the vicinity.

Yes, mistakes were made in the aftermath of the bafters.

But please compare the reaction to this event,

to the reaction to the president of the United States of America,

posting a cartoon depicting Michelle and Barack Obama as monkeys.

Tenguity talks his Matthew and down with Tourette's and racism up with love and respect

and understanding, still love the show Steve and hello to Jason from Matthew and Vicki Payne.

So first thing to say is Matthew, thank you very much indeed for corresponding as other people

have done and obviously I'm very sorry for any upset that was caused because that was clearly not

the intention. Absolutely not. And also education is a wonderful thing and we are both educated all

the time by the correspondence to the show. We are. What up?

I probably maybe I made, you know, a cachanded attempt at this.

My point is this, one, something completely unacceptable and horrific happened at the bafters.

Point one, which and this is not the broadcast, this is just in the bafters.

Yeah. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

The second point is, was there any way to prevent that happening?

Now, if the answer to that is no, then which I think is the line that Matthew is taking,

in which case we proceed, I was bringing that up as a subject.

That's the issue for me. Was there any way to prevent it happening?

Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't, but Matthew, I appreciate the email. Thank you very much.

Well, I mean, it's interesting. I mean, I've had a lot of conversations with people,

you know, people from Bafter, people, broadcasters about what happened. And obviously the question

of is there any way that it could have been prevented? And the general feeling is that as far

as in the room is concerned, no, you know, it's a, the Bafter did what they, they took the necessary

precautions in terms of saying in advance, John Davidson is in the, in the audience, if you've

seen, I swear, you will know that John Davidson is a direct campaigner. And therefore, you might

hear, you might hear things that would be, you know, that you find alarming. That's what it is.

And it was contextualized. None of that was seen at the beginning of the broadcast.

The second point is that the BBC, they just spectacularly dropped the ball with broadcasting it,

because what that then did was sent it out around the world. And actually, it's the really,

really horrible thing is the way in which people have jumped on this commentators. I don't know

whether you've seen there have been some comedians who have thought that this was the stuff of comedy

when it absolutely isn't. So, yeah, thank you very much for the email. I mean, I, my genuine feeling

is that that Bafter did what was necessary in the room. I know there is a question about they,

they should have probably spoken immediately afterwards to the two presenters who were on stage and

who conducted themselves so spectacularly when that happened. If it had not been broadcast,

we wouldn't be in this position. And I think anything that causes distress to any of the parties

involved is a very, very bad thing. And I think that in order to move forward from this,

what everyone has to do is to go, okay, what lessons need to be learned?

Is there a way of, as we do this in the future, because all the Bafter we're trying to do was to

be inclusive, which is an absolutely good and right thing to do. And so, I think it's perfectly

legitimate to ask if there was anything that could have been done stop it. And I think the answer

actually is in the room, no, in the broadcast, yes. Correspondence at Kevinavair.com, Matthew, thank you.

An incredible email from Saham Husaini from Moonrise Motion Pictures. Yeah.

Mark and Simon, this week I finally caught up on the episodes I had missed while traveling to Iran.

I was there during the IRGC crackdown and the brutal actions of the Islamic Republic,

a heavy and unforgettable time to witness first hand. Indescribable experience, I just hope

that I can make a movie about those days and nights. I've been back a few weeks now and now with

Iranians being freed from that evil monster, brackets, the supreme leader. And free Iran that once

felt impossible and free Iran that once felt impossible might slowly be shifting. The idea of you

guys hosting a live show in Tehran, whoa. Okay, thanks, Saham. Have we agreed to this?

Which I emailed you about during the Masha Amini movement and which you seemed to enjoy

doesn't feel quite as far fetched anymore. Just a thought I wanted to resurface and it truly

feels good to hear your voices. Thank you in kind regards. Well, Saham, thank you very much

getting in touch and hopefully there is an email. Hopefully there is a film that can be made

about that appalling IRGC crackdown. Things have moved on obviously since then, but that sounds

as though it's a story that definitely, like Tiananmen Square, it's a story that needs to be told

and maybe it'll take some time to be told, whether you and I will ever present a live show in Tehran.

I mean, thanks for the invite, but who knows? Never say never, very much. Precisely. Precisely so.

Okay, correspondents at Kermanamand.com. Thank you, Saham, for the email.

Let's talk hoppers. Okay, so this is the new film from Pixar. The company was formed in 1986 and

as we know from our, when we were talking to Pete Docter, this year celebrates its 40th birthday.

This I believe is their 30th feature film. They were found. I didn't know this until I

checked out, found it on February the 3rd, 1986, when Steve Jobs purchased the computer graphics

division from Lucasfilm for five million. And then that company was then later bought by Disney.

The first feature was Toy Story in 95, which was the first fully computer animated film.

Since then, films such as Toy Story 3, Finding Dory, Incredibles 2, Toy Story 4, and inside

out had all grossed over one billion dollars being amongst the 50 highest grossing films of all

time. So fair to say that Pixar have done fairly well for themselves. When we had Pete, when we

had Pete Docter on and you were reading out his CV, the kind of the list of films in which he's

been involved. And it was kind of like, you've made more, more of our favorite films than almost

anyone else we've ever had on the book. Yes, it's like someone was, one person was responsible for

pet sounds and Sergeant Pepper all at the same time. You know, it was just an after-while, you just

say, okay, just talk to us because you know what you're talking about. Yeah, exactly. Okay,

so Hopper is directed by Daniel Chong written by Jesse Andrews with a voice cast that includes

Pippa Carter, Bobby Monahan, John Hamm, Dave Franco, centers on a hyperactive young environmentalist

maple who learns that her favorite professor at school has found a way of putting human consciousness

into robot animals that can then interact with actual animals and can understand and speak to

the actual animals. By the miracle of putting this, what's in somebody's head, into this, the

robot animal. Here's a clip from the trailer. Doc, I need your help. Mabel, I'm in the middle of class.

A class that you are enrolled in. Come with me. The traditional methods to understand animals

just won't work. But we've done it, Mabel. We created a revolutionary technology that gives us

unprecedented access to the animal world. We call it hoppers, huh? We put this into this. Yes,

yes, this into this. Mabel, be careful. And they were in the same den. No, I understand you.

What you doing, Mabel? This isn't incredible. Okay, so you get the idea. So Mabel is thrilled

because her favorite blade is about to have a freeway built through it. And this is happening

because all the animals have moved out. So therefore they're allowed to do it. But the animals

moving out includes the beavers who's damning, you know, has made ponds and like so now they

are all gone and it's just turned into this this dry land. So she hops into a beaver identity.

She finds into you know the beaver robot. She finds the animals that have all moved out of the

blade and it turns out they've all moved away because there is a terrible noise that has driven

them away. A terrible noise that points to a wicked plot on behalf of the person behind the

freeway. So then you know that's the that's the cell of the plot. So the director said it was

partly inspired by seeing those nature documentaries in which they have robot animals in as much as

you know you get the little you know the cameras thing that they interact with real animals. So

there is somewhere in the background a kind of basis in real life that people have actually

experimented with using mechanization in order to you know to to get first hand close up view.

Even though you know if we were watching springwatch and things you'll understand this but he also

wanted he also wanted like a mission impossible style sentiment undercover adventure which is

something that you get with with Pixar films. Apparently originally it wasn't beavers it was

penguins and then Pete Doctor who was a guest on the show I may have mentioned before said you

know I think penguins have been done. I mean you know you had happy feet and you had penguins

of Madagascar and say we find something else and then they found beavers. The director said these

animals can be ecosystem engineers and help everyone else survive. I just think that made me go

oh man beavers are crazy cool. The other thing is that the idea of putting the consciousness of a

human being into the body of another thing so it can interact with this kind of inadvertent

commerce alien world is very avatar so much so that in fact one of the characters says this is

exactly like avatar. I've heard that on on a clip. Yeah on one of the ads that we were running

at greatest dates and doesn't someone immediately say never say this is like avatar. Yeah

it's almost like accepting that that's like the worst thing that you could say. Precisely precisely

but it's kind of you know it's that as we all know that the way in which all the picks off

films work is that they are they are cine literate and they're also aware of their cine literacy.

So there was also a weird new story a while back in Hollywood reporter that said that the filmmakers

were advised to to go easy on the on the eco message because in the age that we're now in

suddenly anything that's ecologically friendly is woke and therefore to be hated and stamped upon

although frankly that if they made any changes I didn't notice them because it is definitely a film

with an idea you know a film with an idea about it's been nice to animals and it's probably not

built a highway through this thing. Here's the thing I enjoyed it as I do with all Pixar movies.

I mean I've never seen a Pixar movie that didn't get a lot out of it doesn't

have the classic narrative simplicity of the best picks of them. If you think about the best ones

right toy story when you're away your toys come out to play okay or cars right there's a world

in which cars are people or monsters ink the monster under your bed is real and they're scaring you

because we scare because we care or inside out your emotions are personified they're people it's

numbskulls they are people those are all things that you can kind of do in one sentence the thing

with this is you can't it is much more convoluted and much more contorted the narrative is frankly

fairly scrappy I mean it's interesting that that Pete Doctor was talking about how much they work

with the story how much they work with the script and they're constantly revising and constantly

I have to say in the case of this the narrative is a bit all over the place however it's Pixar

so it looks good there's loads and loads of there was a guy that was in a screening the guy sitting

behind me was incontrollable laughter I mean was laughing out loud in a way that almost made me

want to turn around and go I'm sorry can you stop enjoying yourself so much because it's I mean

you know it is funny but so it's and it is I think in terms of it's you know if it's central themes

it is as with with all Pixar stuff you know it's on the side of the angels and it's on the side

of the outsiders it's it's it's it's hard is in the right place and it's good fun I don't think

it's a Pixar classic by any means but because of the way that Pixar work being not a Pixar classic

being just part of the Pixar catalog is still pretty good it's interesting and I was just

thinking back to the peak doctor interview and I know why he didn't really answer the diversity

and inclusion question which I was asking him you know has has it changed do you have to

yes it was addressing the point you've just made and then he kind of answered a different

question altogether but you can only imagine that if you're the head of a big filmmaking company

there are all kinds of weird pressures which you have now which you didn't have before

but isn't it horrible that in these Trumpy times being eco-friend I mean you know Trump is on record

as saying that you know climate change is the biggest hoax you know forever which of course it

isn't it's factually scientifically correct it's it's like bringing science into it again bringing

science into it yeah it's like when people keep repeating on you know Trump says he's completely

exonerated and he no he isn't I mean you know with there's other things but he's not completely

exonerated anyway but what a weird time to be in in which the very idea of it being inclusive

is somehow potentially dangerous yeah let's back to the peak doctor interview just last

week in in case you missed it we'll be back in just a moment with mothers oh no not mothers

pride mothers pride mothers pride thank you for this and pride and thank you plan is the

mortal man and our special guest is Martin Clunes and we'll recap everything oh sorry a

Martin Clunes planned excellent and we'll recap everything that's out in the UK and US

cinemas in the box office top 10 and top five you majesty and of course the laughter lift

mark you know that scene in a beautiful mind where Russell Crowe plays John Nash and he's got

intense mathematical scribblings on the walls of his shed I don't know he wasn't bad in that

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and I'm sorry there still makes me laugh good not sure it doesn't make me laugh at the top 10 at 12

yeah go ahead no I don't I think it's sure in Dublin okay as in Jerry would that be do you

think yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that okay dear thud and thud I recently attended an

afternoon showing of Sarat and for much of the runtime shared Mark's view that its shocking turns

felt unearned that was until the deliberately flat ending revealed lacks had no intention of

narratively soothing us at all in steady forces both his characters and audience into a period of

reflection that's when the penny dropped for me and I'd respectfully urge Mark to give it another

go whether lacks deals with the terrible event midway through now feels irrelevant I don't think

he ever intended to the film isn't intended in prep to process trauma in a comforting way it's

about the randomness of life's horrors and our lack of control over them or remains a brief moments

of clarity in this case embodied by the relentless rave beat and hypnotic refuge it offers those

who chase it I completely understand disengaging when the twist feel abrupt but the technical mastery

the choreography the immersive sound design and the collective dread in my screening suggested to

me that it had earned a second thought okay two things weirdly lash lash is the is the pronunciation

no it's one of those things I took me ages to find that out thank you for the email you are in

the majority most people feel the same way that you did and I hope that when I was reviewing it I

did give some sense of the of the technical achievement of the film I mean certainly comparing

it to the wages of fear and values given by clouds was intended to that I'm not going to watch it

again because I had a I had an email from a friend of the show who said I'm who remain nameless

just because I haven't asked their permission to say this you said I'm so glad you said that

because my partner got to the end of the film and said right now I'm just annoyed

yeah Ryan in Appington I was surprised when Mark said he had issues with the third act of serrat

as I didn't think it I didn't realize he had one for me it has two acts then ends abruptly

this movie is a journey with no destination which can work in some films but didn't in this one

when the credits are old I found it very frustrating as for the journey it felt like a top gear special

every time they were trying to overcome an obstacle I was half expecting them to cut to the

punishment car take your tongue down with the usual okay so that's a rod number 12 number 10

number five in America 21 pilots more than we ever imagined this is a concert concert film of the

the duo 21 pilots of whom I am not with whom I'm not familiar this wasn't press screen so it was

so I haven't seen it number nine is the testament of Anley holly cruise ba history ma history

university of warwick so obviously it's a smart cookie yeah dear shaken it and quaken it

we saw the testament of Anley this weekend and loved it it's a great example of a historical

film which uses exaggeration or anachronism to help a modern audience understand what the characters

are experiencing it doesn't matter if the shake has really danced like that or that some of the

superb soundtrack features an electric guitar wailing it created powerful mood intensity

an emotional release which we in 2026 can fully immerse ourselves in it's akin to a night's tale

which used queen songs and modern dialogue to show audiences what medieval people would have felt

when living with their own familiar songs and language we also experienced an extra unintentional

bit of immersion at our screening the first half of the film prominently features Manchester Cathedral

a building which is just 200 meters away surely mean point to over kilometer from the view cinema

which you're never going to get over that high you which we saw Anley in after our screening we

went to the cathedral and saw their display covering the cathedral's history including a small

section on and herself so that sounds like a very good way to to see if a movie going to see that

and then see the movie or the other way around so that's Anley at the testament of number nine

I was a big fan if you if you haven't heard the the interview that Simon did with Mona Fastfold

and Amanda Sifred Sifred do go back and listen to it because it was it was terrific hearing the

talk but I mean I really like the film and I think the dancing really really really works but

it is definitely true that it has proved divisive and number eight is Pegasus 3 so this is a

Mandarin language motor racing sports comedy adventure that has become a huge hit domestically

but wasn't pressed green here I'll see if it's still in the charts I'll see if I can see it for

next week's show. So it's Pegasus 3 Zootropolis 2 so Pegasus win by one goal and

Zootropolis is at number seven still holding on in there I mean it's what a run that film has had

it's yeah I mean I enjoyed it but it's done really really well. Secret agent is at number six

which is just fantastic and if you haven't seen it yet go see it because you need to see it in

the cinema it's it is an absolutely brilliant movie that moves between genres with fluidity

and grace and is just it's super crime I know one is at number five here at number six over there

terrific high-smovie I love a good high-smovie this is definitely a good high-smovie and I believe

that we will have a conversation later on which you flagged up before about the correct way of

responding in the cinema if you're enjoying it. Goat is at number four.

Epic Elvis Presley in concert is at number three here and number four in America it's a couple

of a couple of emails first of all so this is signed from I think this is Ann Spudviers

okay not and that so what it says is from ad Spudviers indented head Australia okay

what is that what is what is that is that her post or anyway so I looked it up an indented head

is a coastal township in Victoria Australia that's the name of the place that she lives okay

and she says it's very beautiful anyway dear blue in ring bingo what an opening as his trademark

Rasmus Taz was all over the screen but was restrained to bookending the film in the credits

Baz let Elvis tell his own story and technical eclipse from Vegas intimate footage of rehearsals

where Elvis is rap all with his band and singers is beautifully captured an historic film of his

early years which added such poignancy now that we know how the history that followed I never wanted

it to end the color those jumpsuit Elvis is beautiful facing close up his performance energy and

humor and the obvious respect and admiration of his fellow musicians and singers not to mention

the audience itself the hysteria the hairdo's the sheer size and buzz of the audience it was transporting

I'm searching for superlatives suffice to say I love love loved it and I can't wait to go again

I could have stayed in the cinema all day yeah fabulous and that's at the same page and in

indented head also she's the sunrise swimmer and winner of a box of oil pastels for coloring

in a picture of Smoky Dawson on the back of a conflict packet in 1960 a John pennies says

dear not a Colonel and not a Tom Parker very good what a film a touching and captivating portrait

of that beautiful talented man he really showed what a talented musician arrange and vocalist Elvis

was it was obviously made with such love and appreciation that it left us both delighted to have

seen it and heartbroken that it all ended so soon afterwards my only criticism of the film

came during the credits firstly that awful disco remix that played over them having just seen

some of the finest drumming of ever why switch to the robotic unanimity of a drum machine and why

put it so high in the mix which leads me to my second criticism why weren't the musicians and

backing singers credited for a film in which the quality of the musicians and their interactions

with Elvis is basically the whole point it seemed like a serious emission are they not credited

yeah I kind of thought that they were but I thought they were but anyway that said it's a joyous

uplifting spectacle and I'm wondering whether I'll be able to see it again before it disappears

from cinema okay yes to that point I thought they were credited I but I you know I to be honest

with you as the film was finishing I was you know it was just so kind of overwhelmed and happy

I thought they were you're absolutely right that they definitely should be because the

musicianship is out of this world yeah I mean that's one of the best things about it Simon you

were saying that you know you saw Van Morrison playing and there was all these musicians including

Georgie fame on keyboard it's just watching him like a hawk that is exactly what it's like the

musicianship in this on it it is astonishing yeah clearly everybody wanted to play those shows yeah

number two is Wuthering Heights mr. and sure the patriarch of the and sure household is on

the show in a bit is there anything else you wanted to say about Wuthering Heights I one thing

I will say is I did talk to Charles Gantt the kind of the box office my strobe the guy really

understands box office and can actually explain it and I said to him Charles simply has it done

and the short answer is yes obviously it has costs to cover but he's but basically yes it has done

very well he compares it I'll talk about this a little bit more intake too but he compares it to

other literary adaptations bronchi adaptations Jane Austen puts it all in context but yes the short

version is it has done well and number one is scream seven archie andy says to see scream I went

to see scream seven tonight and whilst it was great to see Neve back the series should have ended

with the last one I am a fan of the franchise the thought the last two were okay three and four

probably the weakest there are some fun nods callbacks and easter eggs some gory kills and great

performances no spoilers but one cast member seemed to be having a blast and whilst I had fun

seven was maybe a scream too far yeah well you figure I mean Neve camel's back because they

sorted out the the money because she wasn't then the one before because she wasn't being paid

enough and I don't think there's any way of looking at scream seven as anything other than an

accounts balance sheet and I think it's I think it's very depressing particularly if like me

you are old enough to remember having done an onstage with Wes Craven and the cast when the first

scream came out and remembering how exciting it was and how thrilling it was and how enthusiastically

you know Wes talked about the film and I interviewed him a lot because he was one of those

film directors who would who would talk about his work because he loved talking about it um you know

so I think this is depressing uh back in just a moment Mark's going to be talking mother's pride

the bride picky briders the immortal man there's a lot there's an exclamation mark for bride and

there's a colon for picky blinders and our special guests Martin Clunes on the way

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okay it's time to talk to our special guest who is Martin Clunes so you know he's been on

telly like forever member having badly dock Martin William and Mary Arthur and George good

by mr chips move his Shakespeare in love nativity three anyway as you know because we talked about him

a lot he's just appeared in weathering heights and he has a new film called mother's pride you'll

hear Martin Clunes after this bit from the trailer you don't drink it with your eyes mate I think

we're about to about that if you want cocktails I suggest you go over the road with the rest of the

pool so much brigade we wonder what he's doing back we have to bail his father out of the message in

hello dad this place is a madhouse you going probably better stay here wait Skirch she's

gonna punch you too when everyone got the pub was always the life for some of the village

they may have been through the change but I still get it right but we've got 14 days to find 10

grand or they're going to start repossession proceedings we could do with KL's financial help

and project blew them up on what what do you think on the high life and hookers what's the hooker

and that is part of the trailer for mother's pride it stars Martin Clunes he's in a couple of

films at the moment as you might have noticed Martin hello welcome to show you how are you I'm

Graham thank you it's the year of Martin Clunes I think it's weird isn't it it does to me I think it is

so there you can literally go to the cinema and choose two Martin Clunes films has that ever

happened before I think they're trying to think the last film I was in it's probably Shakespeare

and love yeah it was a long time but that was the only so if you wanted to see Martin Clunes in a

movie that was that what carry on Columbus I did a day right I was in the Russia house okay but

but now we have a choice we have yes uh commercially um whiskery grotty yeah and very grotty Martin

and kind of lighthearted but slightly angry Martin Clunes in in in mother's pride thank you very

much for emailing the show uh couple of weeks ago that was that was that was fantastic fun but I did

genuinely think that you stole the film certainly all the all the scenes that you're in if they

think this guy has taken it away with it well I had a good part didn't I I mean it was a really

nice part and a um emerald sister real joy to be directed by because she's I've never known

anyone be so clear about what they want out of everything she was talking to one of the actresses

and she went I hate those buttons 20 minutes later somebody came with scissors and changed the

buttons on her and actually having an opinion on buttons well it's kind of you know work almost

exclusively in television most of my working life uh where there's never enough time there's never

enough money and sometimes you get a directory turns up and goes right now how are we going to do this

and you think what did you think the fee was for but emerald every but every set just wants to know

what the director wants and because there was enough time all the creative roles got to flourish

you know um Susie Davis's designs were just through the through the roof and the makeup artists

and nobody's rushed I mean obviously you're concerned about the time but there is enough time

and that's that was just such a joy there was a bit in the interview with emerald I think I mentioned

it afterwards when when I mentioned you and how I thought it was such a great role she punched the

air it was the only bit that she kind of appeared even more animated so which made me think

you you were definitely her idea I guess I was yes we nearly did something together before but it

didn't work out with dates and things but yeah I know it's just I chuffed a bit to have a champion

in the so she calls you does she and say what does she wants the original energy agent to come

and I yelled through it from the kitchen to my wife as it who's mr urn sure in bothering

eyes is Kathy's dad I'll do it no where you would except it slightly she's she's played around a lot

with with the film anyway and are you mainly the dad with bits of nastiness from the missing brother

is that yes yes exactly so she's kind of locked off the second half of the film after Kathy died

a second off of the book after Kathy dies it's quite boring as well after I think almost all the

different versions stop there they do they do they don't do the second part you said in your email

that there was a moment where you were lying on the floor vomit in your mouth waiting to be kicked

in the head by Margot Robbie yeah trying not to blink or breathe so it reminds us what's happening

there well I've died and she's come to visit me and after a slightly brief period of morning she

kicks me in the head and then you have to vomit well no no I didn't vomit I was just holding it

in my mouth so that as I whipped over like that it flew out all right well and what is it I can't

remember tuna Simon I've had so much fake vomit in my mouth there's a profession

for remembering badly to dock Martin it's it's been a constant really it's usually vegetable soup

well I hope it's improved since that's back in the day now when um mother's pride starts I

recalled a conversation uh on a earlier version of this podcast with the great Tom Wilkinson

sadly no longer with us and he was in a movie I think it was called The Dead with Helen Mirren

and as the credits roll it's more traditional I has all the titles at the beginning and then it says

and Tom Wilkinson right so I said to him I said that was as always very impressive isn't it and he

gave a whole long spiel about asking for the end you have to ask for the end and I was thinking

about this because on your film it says with Mark Addy and Martin Clune who does it yes what's

better with your own well I think and thank you this then led Mark strong to contact the show to say

maybe there's a butt I remember that yeah but I do remember where some actors like Steven Segal

should be a butt Steven Segal so so is that news to you that you are and Martin Clune so did you

know all about that oh somebody might have said something early on I don't know I don't I'm yeah I

don't know with I'm not bothered no it's someone else is so mother's pride so take us into so you're

so you're so you're a you're an angry Republican he's a sad Republican okay sad

slightly angry Republican news down on his luck his family's a bit of fractured um this is

briefly only at the beginning it's sad just to sort of set it up and the the the businesses in

trouble they've got massive deaths and the deaths are so big that they can't even afford any

beer and then one of my sons played by John O'Davis comes home who's a pop star who's had a bit

of a breakdown and and he comes home which annoys me but then he's with no beer he sets about

from grandpa's book trying to brew beer to brew us out of trouble and hopefully gain the attention

of the campaign for real ale um and put the pub back on his feet now mine my understanding uh

looking at some of the the announcements about this the first reference I found was in 2022

so he's just out of covid which of course was a disastrous time for pubs and um for lots of people

in different walks of life but the pubs particularly just lost everything immediately

so everyone knows that pubs are struggling but in this particular village martin we've got your

pub which is struggling but over the road what's happening there over the road is a smart pub

owned by the son of the brewery that uh makes the beer for that pub who's a bit smug he's a knob

really yeah he is he I think he gets hit yes who hits him oh it might be me

so it's a very British story and the team behind it were the team that did fishermen's friends

and if you so it's it's like that basically yes i mean there are a lot of English films like

they like full Monty as well people exactly right uh down on Tom Wilkinson's down on their

upper and Mark Addy um of course uh down on their upper's conquering adversity getting better

and fixing things it's it's a it's a it's a strange thing we're good at those films we like them

we solve emotional turmoil and upset by in this case brewing good beer

nothing wrong with that no absolutely not so there there is a splendid sort of conflict at the

heart of it and we know who you know who's side we're on but it all leads up towards you know a great

contest i mean i'm not quite sure i think it's okay to talk about the end we don't have to give

away you know the the the ultimate end but it's fantastic to um distill all the kind of financial

and emotional and familiar problems into a brewing competition which is great so tell us about

the the beer that your son the pop star sun has come up with um it's called mother's pride um

but well they realize that that throughout the film that that's because they're missing my two

sons are missing their mother yeah so did you get too simple any beer did you get any brewing

knowledge uh along the way not a drop and no i don't think so i wasn't paying attention but i know

i was asked about there was a stick in it the brewing stick oh yeah that's right i think that's

made up i don't know many prayers now there is some more is dancing in this film yeah just go

more this disco morris do did you escape i'm just trying to think did you do any

i did a little bit of granddad dancing off to the side it's mainly James some real morris dancers

and mark had he mark had he couldn't show you his stuff too he's got that big man grace

he yeah well and as you remind us full full Monty so he knows how did he knows precisely

how to do this thing what i was surprised by was once i'd worked out the kind of film that we

are in or enjoying the characters and enjoying the contest and being fairly certain i knew you know

where we were going the scene where you finally distribute the ashes of your uh wife uh with your

sons i was i was quite glad i was um on my own at that time you know it's a very it's a very very

powerful scene there's tears yes with that girl dancing sort of yeah who was yeah yeah was it was

i think it was the first scene i did in it um and uh yeah it moved me you know silly isn't it but

you know as you sort of put yourself there as an actor yeah and it um you just sort of imagine

you know you're missing the love of your life at a later stage it must be pretty ghastly

no it's a very it's you know it is i think it's because we've been having such a frothy time

that suddenly we're surprised by the emotion of the moment it's nice isn't it gives the film a

heart it doesn't yes yes yes yes absolutely so 2026 feels to me as though it's been the year of

Martin Clunes really though when we get to do a wrap up of 2026 that you're you're

weathering heights and mothers pride and do we see the downfall of you Edward sometime soon yeah

I think so yeah have you filmed that yeah okay so this is gonna be a remarkable year for you

i know but i haven't got a job at the moment it's a publicity when you mean you haven't got a

job at the moment i haven't got a job a gig at all no okay but the impression is you're working

by not stop so no so here's the question Martin i think that you've been a um one of the most

familiar faces on British television for a lot you know for a long time you've mentioned a couple

of the a couple of the shows what is must be quite thrilling i would think is to get to are you

national treasure yes okay you're a national treasure you get to your status having been on

television for many decades and the stuff that you're coming up with is surprising to us that

you're getting fantastic roles and it's possible i mean Pete Bradshaw in the Guardian i don't

look at any other comments at all other than Mark i only listened to to Mark's coming but

Mark Peter also said you stole the film yes i don't know what to say about that because i don't

i don't really think i do i don't think margo robby and jake of allodia just magnificent

yeah but they get enough attention i think they just got a lot of insults i think i think maybe

i was the hardest to insult everyone seemed preoccupied with jake of skin tone and margo's age i don't

think we discuss a lady's age do we oh but i think there was a there was a lady wrote a piece in

the times saying what they got right and what they got wrong so what what does she mean they got

wrong there's a there's a little female Julius Caesar don't go and see that love and then there's

an all-male measure for measure and then she's standing in front of a salvador entirely picture and

say he's got that wrong i've seen men's bottoms i guess i guess the martin clune's point that i'm

trying to make is that you are getting exciting roles to do yeah new new roles we're going to the

movies you know watering heights is a number one film yeah and you're one of the big stars of

the tin it and it must be thrilling to be getting those parts yeah it's very thrilling it's very

thrilling i'm expected um yeah yeah just as i sort of felt like things were kind of winding down

just as it looked as if things were winding down do you mean retirement uh no i just mean job

jobs in television i mean it's a little bit weird television at the moment is it harder now

to get tv shows made than it used to be i'm just an another old white guy aren't i it's sort of

i've sort of had my turn in a way i think did you hesitate at all about the hew head was show what

was it the mate you want to do it i thought it was a really good script and uh michael samiel's the

director had directed years ago a thing uh an adaptation of a William Boyd book called any human heart

and it stuck in my mind as being so beautifully done as a piece of tv

William Boyd wrote the screenplay and it was just so super you know the gym broadband was in it

it was so superbly directed and when i saw that michael was attached to this i thought well

i never thought i'd get the chance to work with him um and i did and obviously it came with kind

of risks or challenges or whatever but that's good too isn't it scary yourself every now and again

and it wasn't pretty making it but um i think it's a story worth telling but as we sit here and talk

now you've got no new projects uh actually you know i did just i can't quite believe that

that's not the that's not the case because um mother's pride is fun and we and the angry

public and uh Mick we know that you can do that like the jukebox scene by the way but it was

trying to get a close that i was trying to look very intensely to find out what the jukebox was

oh because because i like a jukebox um and it is very much a love letter to british pubs and

british pubs need need all the support that they can get but i would think that the scripts are

going to keep on coming because people will see you for doing mother's pride which we know you can

do and now we're seeing you in in mothering hides people going wow we'll have that guy

well thank you pure prognosis doctor i hope so are there some other people that you would love

to work with if emeral for now gave you a thrilling experience because you know it was so clear

what she wanted and it was great fun to be on what would you like to do next anything i really

don't mind i've never had a career plan or i think now i need to do this or now i need to do that

i just sort of run at the things that that have appealed to me i'd love to work with emerald again

i'd like to work with michael again i'd uh what with anyone and life on the farm is calling you back

out we'd think quite often yeah life on the farm's great yeah yeah yeah it's sort of miss it

my way i like London less and less yeah so you have to hold everything in balance but in the end

back to the farm and back to your dogs yes so to the question what do we see you in next that's

going to be the downfall a few efforts yes and what is that on time five mean time it's mother's

pride which is in cinemas now and it's weathering heights which is like top of the charts

marty includes top of the charts that's what you are and marty's always a pleasure thank you very

much indeed for coming in and i look forward to watching you in the movies in iMAX all

by many times in the future they did the cast and crew screening of weathering heights in iMAX

that was off-putting that's seeing your face very very big oh boy i would think uh martin clunez

thank you so much for coming in thank you very much martin clunez who's also he said he's

very proud of the fact that in his email a couple of weeks ago he's he referred to us as violets

and an eta bush yes apparently there's i think there's a a thing that they did in dock martin

they used to give silly names to you know patients who died or something like that you know so

we were very much in that tradition um but that made you know but that ceased patients in dock marty

yes so if weathering heights showed us a surprising marty includes mother's pride

uh doesn't doesn't it shows us the martin clunez that we know and love yeah

incidentally martin clunez version of being unemployed is not the same as anyone else's

version of being unemployed is it interesting how often and how quickly he said yes but i've got no

work it's been amazing here i got no work no work at all okay so um you know so as you said

it's a this is a comedy from the big behind fisherman's friends nick more croft and make

Leonard who co-wrote fisherman's friends and then co-directed the sequel um about a failing

pub um that is that people try to save by this kid comes back home he's he's the he's the landlord

he's the grumpy landlord i do think that thing that you played in the clip about he want cocktails

go across the road that was funny um and then the the the the the the kids sort of thinks okay well

what we'll do is we'll start brewing and then miraculously overnight they start brewing and that's

going to become the to save the pub and as with fisherman's friends inspired by in the very

vagus sense of the words um two true stories one of a struggling pub in whales one of a uh which

was bought by the local community one of a family rumbroory in s6 uh cast includes

martin clunez jonna davis james butt cleak abriella wild mark adi of course which is the the full

monty connection their loot tread away miles jop um josey lorenz you know me so it's it's a cast

of familiar faces about whom people generally feel very warmly it's described on the poster as

being about a family with a pint to prove i'm going to say that again a family with a pint to

prove uh-huh thank you and from the creators of fisherman's friends and and boy is it from the

creators of fisherman's friends i mean if you remember some time ago there was a film called

swimming with men which i said was basically the pulmonty in as much as okay you're just mentioning

that to to repeat because it's a good joke you know um that's a rob ride in film yes that's right

rob ride yeah and i said half as good and twice as wet if that was the pulmonty this is the mild

Monty boyed up by the presence of mark adi who i think you realized in that interview was in the

full Monty because when he says he got oh yeah and uh who gets you know that there is more

restarting involved it is however weighed down by the same thing with the fisherman's friends

which is that none of it rings true in any way whatsoever i mean it's not you know it's not pulled

points it's it's pulled punches you said frothy you said up until the point that when there is

the sad bit it had been frothy i think frothy is absolutely the word i mean honestly if fisherman's

friends was like a kind of juii tourist version of cool more because it's interesting the fisherman's

friends came out around about the same time the mark jenkin was doing things like bait i mean

then this portrait of pub rivalry in bucolic settings it basically makes the martin clunes

dock martin look like a searing expose a of tough life on the streets you know i've

you know i've coast all town i mean it's it's so frothy it's so glossed over it's so completely

artificial i mean running a pub is very difficult um taking much of this film seriously is i think

substantially harder but the point is it doesn't want to be taken seriously on the on the on the country

what it wants to do is embrace you in a in a kind of warm hug you know a sort of warm pint of

of bon or me and that's what made fisherman's friends popular i mean fisherman's friends was not

well received by critics but it did very very well with audiences um one thing i should point out

you said at one point that there was a moment when you were fairly sure where it was going okay

as a friend of mine who was was at the beginning of the screen i won't name them but they

was uh they were they were at the beginning of the screening and they bailed out very early on

because they had to get in the queue for another screening that was happening in the evening

and on the basis of the first 30 minutes of the movie when i then saw them at the next screening

that they had to get to um i said okay tell me on the basis of the first 30 minutes of the film

what happens in the rest of the film and they literally did this it this happens and this happens

and did that happen and then that happened and it we go right down to the thing about the rival

pub sending somebody over to do the thing which i'm not going to spoil but frankly 10 minutes in

you know that that's and the spaceship did they guess the spaceship um the it's a wonderful

life moment when everybody from the village turns up with the you know with the thing it's so

there is there is nothing that you don't expect um i mean there's the whole thing about

the the girlfriend with the posh oh guy who nobody likes it who's going to

discover true love with the troubled folks singer um incidentally there's a moment in it this is

very sort of telling of the thing there's a moment in it when the when the singer comes back home

looking like a you're looking like a like a bit of a star because he's very handsome a young man

and somebody says oh lots of lots of famous people dress like homeless people

you go he's dressed like homeless people what what what what looks pretty fine to everybody else exactly

you seem like in the world of balamori i mean it's you know what you remember in um uh in zoolander

there's the whole thing but derelict derelict she just didn't even look derelict chic he just looks

chic and and the real that the real l competition is preposterous um the the martin clunes has a

movie illness thing is preposterous um he was brilliant in weathering heights and i i was i was

listening to that interview i just looked for an image of him in uh the the the downfall of

huedwoods or the whatever it is of huedwoods was in there there's a still i mean he looks

really just the still looks really really good um he martin clunes could do this in his sleep

and it is it is exactly what you think it is honestly i didn't think it was any good

but then i didn't think fish was friends was much good and that took a bunch of money so it's

you know hey what do i know we were you a fan cup of tea and a and a biscuit goes down well with a

cup of tea and a biscuit misses yes because and so therefore and therefore ticks that box i think so

yeah it's not it's not you don't have to see this in the cinema i'm sure it'll be on a stream

very soon and if you want to watch a show on for me then maybe you know this is going to be

fight so it has you know it has its place but it's the mode but it is as you say entirely predictable

from from the start i would say yeah um and mother's pride is the it should say is the name in case

you it's the name of the beer because it's only the name of the beer at the end of the film yeah

because it's like it's it's called the drovers all the way through and then at the very end they

change it and my friend who we only saw the first half and now even protected that okay very good

anyway so that is so that's mother's pride and more to come it's and also it's the ads coming up

but first we have to as we're in a jolly mood anyway yes step with gay abandon into our laughter lift

well well hey mark hey Simon what's made of leather and sounds like a sneeze

i don't know a shoe after a great start i was shoe a shoe yeah by the way i don't want to break the

comedy um drama here at this week i heard of a conversation between a mother and a young daughter

yes it's true and the mother had the misfortune to cough and break wind at the same time as you're

sometimes happens and her daughter referred to it as taking a screenshot

which i thought it's very very interesting um anyway mark i had a very oh sorry that wasn't part of

the laugh to live that was an actual thing no that's an actual thing okay okay as in you know

pressing two buttons on you yes or no i know i had a very cinematic black and white dream last night

i dreamt i was a medieval night on the beach in Ingmar Bergman's 1957 masterpiece the 7th seal

with a white-faced shrouded figure played by a banked ecorot but instead of playing chess with him

i was cutting carrots i was really dicing with death thank you okay that's all right that was

that was yeah that was that was worth the long run up is that all right yeah uh the same obviously

is going to be true of this okay anyways i was very shaken up by the dream uh i needed a four pack

of adnums broadside to recover so i popped out to my local high-class booze agent when two masked

men burst in one of them said this is a stick up and the other one picked up a rather nice

infigordant 50-year-old single malt and said is this whiskey to the boss man not as whiskey is

rubbing a bank but yes it's up there cctb it's everywhere i'd leave it if i were you

and that's where you laugh hysterically but okay that was i mean the punchline of that joke was

in the middle of it is this is this whiskey is this whiskey yes whiskey is doing that and then you

did a whole thing about cctv yeah no no i think you should have stuck with uh with the dicing with

death or the or the screenshot which was actually the funniest joke yeah okay well i'm glad i put

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mother had an exclamation mark so we always said it's like that so the bride kind of needs to be

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the font de exclamation mark in front yeah but you know it just sounds more fun yeah

anyway so it is the bride it has got an exclamation mark taken away so this is the new feature from

writer Maggie Jill and Hall if you remember um she made the lost daughter who did you interview

for lost daughter was it interviewed her you interviewed her and she's you know she's great she's

like really smart and really eloquent and talks talks a really good film i think i think it's

her it was her and Olivia Coleman as i recall i think i think that's right that's a very good double

bill um but i the lost daughter was i think cost around five million this is closer to 80 million so

15 times the budget and the scope of the film is like 20 times broader so whereas the lost daughter

was this kind of fairly stripped down adaptation of a novel this is a sprawling genre hopping

unruly epic of a movie which like Frankenstein's monster i mean it draws from obviously from

Frankenstein and from the James Whale in 1935 brighter Frankenstein i mean it is a collection of

disparate body parts literature film music stuff all bolted or sewn together in ram shackle

fashion jolted alive with a huge shock hence the pontum you know de exclamation and it's not so

much you know everything but the kitchen sink as let's throw everything into the kitchen sink

and then see what floats so it opens with um with a a a dead Mary Shelley narrating from beyond the

grave telling the story of how having written Frankenstein everybody knew about she then died of

a persistent illness who i think it was now thought to be a brain tumor and renting that Frankenstein

wasn't the real story the real story was the story of and i i will i will interpret this for

broadcast the mother fruit caking dried um which which will now be recounted will incidentally be

recounted with a hint of possession because there is a crack through which she will possess or

you know have a ghostly haunting of the central character so it's a it's a bit bonkers from the

beginning so cut to of course 1930s Chicago where else where Jesse Buckley's glamorous but

apparently unhinged very drunk um party girl as the phrase used to be then is suddenly possessed

of the spirit of Shelley she has a fit she bursts out in a rage she taunts the local crime boss

and his cronies gets herself thrown out and thrown down a flight of steps meanwhile

Annette Benning's Dr. Ephoneus is a brilliant scientist who's who's very familiar with the work of

Dr. Frankenstein Victor Frankenstein and has made her own breakthroughs in regeneration

and she is visited by Christian Bales well monster but when she asked his name he says well

Frankenstein was my father's name so he then gets called Frank okay he says he's lonely and he

wants her to make him a mate and she says I can't do that he says yes you can she says I can't

do that he says yes you can so she goes to think okay maybe I can so they go to a pauper's grave

where they find the body of Jesse Buckley's character and reanimate it to find that there are

effectively two souls in it because the memories of the past are all gone so there's a bit of

Mary Shelley there's a bit of residual memory but this this now reborn bride is an anarchic

firecracker whose kind of defining feature is you know I prefer not to I'm not going to do that

that's outspoken nose around mind wild rebellious spirit with this kind of distinctive razor blade

smile which you will have seen from the posters there's this kind of black sort of splurge to one

side of her mouth and believe me you'll soon be seeing that in nightclubs and on Halloween masks

around the country so he is like an old-school romantic he's fixated on this musical star the

cinema musical star played by Jake Gyllenhaal but of course he's also Frankenstein's Monster

so still capable of great brutality and she is absolutely you know this buzzing rebellious spirit

and together they start to cause havoc in Chicago gate crashing parties which spontaneously turn

into musical dance numbers very much in the manner of um well I was thinking originally of

near the costus header but obviously more recently in the manner of a testament of Anne Lee

or even weirdly in the manner of Mel Brooks's young Frankenstein because at one point they

actually dance to putting on the rites and that cannot be accidental anyway here is a clip from the

trailer what happened you had an accident an accident huh we dug you up literally brought you back to life

what do you want with a dead girl i'm the same born from the dead i am a monster

oh yeah so am I so they're also basically the Bonnie and Clyde you know they start to become

local legends in particular her black lips black tongue and that kind of that razor blade sort of

you know the splatter on her face becomes adopted by people as they become kind of local heroes and

it becomes like a riotous like a riot girl rebel girl statement and inspired by this

character who's you know everyone's talking about people start to adopt her look and her

attitude and they're rebelling against the patriarch you mean at one point a character actually

says me too me too says it's a number of times just in case you missed it the first time meanwhile

Pete Sarsgard who of course you've had the whole conversation about you know that yes

who's Maggie Gyllenhaal's other half yes and and of course is the is the son of

Stellan Skarsgard's family they all love it they all love it is the detective on their trial

with his far smarter assistant played by Penelope Cruz actually doing the crime solving and shaping

up as the real force behind their partnership so the film was all shot on iMac certified digital cameras

the score is by Hilda Goodner daughter um it says in the in the wiki entry that it was originally

Johnny Greenwood but I ended up being a being being Hilda Goodner daughter um the result is a game

of many halves as I've said before I kind of made that comparison about you know a reanimated

body with all these different bits strapped together some of the some of the bits worked brilliantly

some of them don't work so well on on the plus side it is as ambitious as it is bonkers I mean this

is not a film that anyone ever workshopped this is not a film with a group of executives sat down

and said well we should do this and then we should do this this is a singular vision of Maggie

Jill and Hall and whether you like it or not and I think there'll be people who don't it is

clearly the film that it's right to direct a set out to create it looks terrific Jesse Buckley walks

on water frankly and can do anything and Christian Baal is impressively dorky and pathetic in the true

sense of pathetic you know as in paythos laden as the monster it's also very clearly a you know

an out and proud feminist take on the frankenstein narrative the fact that it's the bride not the

bride of frankenstein but the bride exclamation uh exclamation mark so that is that all that is hard

wired into its DNA on the downside I mean it pinballs around between themes and moods and genres

in a way that that can be befuddling I mean it is a mess but whether or not you go with that mess

is I think a very personal decision and I did decide to go with it and I did enjoy it whilst

thinking that there's an interesting comparison here that look this cost pretty much the same as

weathering heights um it has a similar sensibility I mean they're both essentially gothic romances

they are both inspired by literary sources which some people reveal they are both honestly boldly

ridiculous takes on those texts they're both held by women with a very clear sense of their own

vision they're both big and splashy and garish and unembarassed and unashamed to be ludicrous

and they're also both kind of aimed at that that demographic which in which there is a significant

part of that demographic which is you know if you are if you are a a young woman like a teenager

at you are often very sorely served by big mainstream cinema which tends to concentrate on cars

and robots hitting each other and it is absolutely true that at the moment we're going to have next

week in the charts we're going to have weathering heights and the bright which are big event movies

big garish event movies in which they are clearly much more attuned toward a section of the audience

that has been grossly overlooked by mainstream cinema and that in itself I think is something to be

celebrated I think this is a better movie than weathering heights I don't think it will do as well

as weathering heights and the reason is because it aims higher it takes more risks and it it is more

it is more unruly and more all over the place but I think actually it's a better film um certainly in

terms of the ambition and the sort of the scale of of this world that has been imagined and dreamed

up by Maggie Jones so it's all over the place it's preposterous and it it is not for everyone and

there are things about it that don't work but there's enough in there that does and that

that makes me just sort of cheer the idea that somebody like Maggie Jones or could get a movie

like this out there in cinemas that makes me very happy that it's out there in cinemas

that's very interesting so it's a mess but it's a hot mess it's a hot mess hot mess that's what

definitely worth seeing I should have got yeah I wish I'd used that phrase it's a hot mess yeah

yes okay all right so let us know what you think once you have seen it correspondents

at kevinamer.com time for a quadriology of what's on's first of all it's either Louis or Louis

hi Simon and Mark Louis here from the Glasgow short film festival which kicks off on March 18th

at the beloved GFT with a screening of downriver attiger presented in partnership with the

Catalan film festival about a kitchen worker and photographer losing her sight in a new city

it's a love letter to Glasgow through cinematic lens we also have genre programs such as our horror

and comedy programs scared short lists and for shorts and giggles and a whole host more you can find

out more at Glasgow short.org third see there and nicely recorded there from Louis very well done

very well done but nice acoustic I thought thank you Louis here now he's Connor hello Simon

americ and the glorious red actor this is comical Kelly to let you know there is a wonderful Irish

film festival taking place at the Babylon theater in Berlin over the same Patrick's weekend from

the 13 till the 18th of March there will be a retrospective of the works of killing in Murphy and

a whole array of contemporary documentaries shorts and features including tabby daily a short

I wrote and directed will also play some traditional Irish music on a Saturday evening

technically tongue and down with the afd and vim vendors non-political films for more information

visit irishfilmberlin.ie thank you all right so that was Connor Irish I love because Jesse Buckley

did this at one of the awards just made a point of saying film I make feeling at the extra

yes punctuation says Irishfilmberlin.ie kind of thank you now let's hear from Becker

hi Simon and Mark introducing the Time Valley Film Festival in Northumberland 39 screenings in

22 venues across the Time Valley from the 13th to 27th of March all information can be found at

timevalleyfilmfestival.com a special shout out for Alan Dale film club screening of

driving mum a quirky Icelandic film that Alan Dale village hall on the 16th of March at 730 p.m

the wearing of Icelandic sweaters is encouraged okay Becker thank you very much at the work

quirky and Icelandic kind of go together always there isn't a true you know there's I don't

chose Iceland would make mothers pride for example there isn't the equivalent I don't think yeah

Becker thank you very much need finally his rob hi this is Rob Lamont I'm a musician in

Wes Banderson that's the band that plays the music of Wes Anderson's films we perform cues from

the original scores and needle drops from across the cannon and we'll be on tour of the UK from

the 20th to the 29th of March you can find the locations and the details at Wes Banderson.com

and I'm sorry Simon but we will be wearing red beanies indoors as we'll be dressed in the team's

issue attire thank you love the show Steve okay Rob thank you that's fine because you're like

acting so I think there's I think I think that's sorry can I just say okay where's Banderson

where's Banderson that is pretty good that's that I when I wonder whether that came up when they

formed the band because it's such a good name very very good name Rob thank you enjoy the tour so

before we're done there is a the small matter of Killian Murphy and his mates with dangerous caps

peaky blinders the immortal man um which is a film spin off of the iconic tv series which I have

to say I have not seen I mean I have dipped into it very slightly I've seen all of it every single

episode okay fine so this is interesting and in a way we'll have to revisit this when you've seen

the film okay so this is written by series creator Stephen Knight who wrote dirty pretty things

Eastern promises also wrote directed lock hummingbird which I actually like very much um and is

currently I believe writing the new Denis Villeneuve Bond film for which we will find out at some

point who the new bond is going to wait so I mean so that's yeah that's yeah that's pretty

impressive he's doing fine he's doing fine um it's going to be Jacob a laudie I'm sure do you think

not too to not too tall and too antipodine I don't know I listen I've got no idea who knows

anyway so this is directed by Tom Harper who along with directing some of peaky blinders on television

held the air in knots and wild rose starring that they're Jesse Buckley that was one of the

films in which she starred so as I said I haven't seen peaky blinders so I'm not familiar with

the story although the weird thing is if you breathe air you have got some awareness of peaky blinders

because it is everywhere in the culture which is one of those things it's like people think they've

seen citizen Kane they haven't but they but it's it's just there so for the record from the official

thing this is a continuation of the TV series Kelly and Murphy in the lead ensemble cast including

Sophie Rundle they're down he packy Lee in peck and Stephen Graham reprising their roles alongside

new editions for record Ferguson Tim Roth Barry Kjogen so plays out a beginning of World War 2

Killian Murphy's Tommy Shelby has exiled himself to this lonely house where he is writing his memoirs

he's I think there is memoirs he's writing a book I think there's memoirs he's cut off all

contact with the outside world including with his son Erasmus who is now running the increasingly

lawless peaky blinders gang we meet them looting arms supplies supplies that are meant to be going to

the front in the wake of a bombing that's taken out some more arms factory he is feared by all

apparently he has no moral compass whatsoever he's approached by Tim Roth's Nazi supporting

Beckett to help in a scheme to flood the country with counterfeit currency that will cause

economic collapse and thereby bring about the downfall of the country and the success of the Nazis

then a mysterious woman played by Rebecca Ferguson turns up at Tommy's house and Tommy's

soul assistant friend basically scared of it says hang on she's she's a gypsy witch you know she

you don't want to you don't want to cross this and she tells him that he needs to reconnect with

the world with his son whom he has effectively abandoned here is a clip from the trailer

Tommy you'll live in a house haunted with ghosts of people who died because of you

abandoned your kingdom and your abandoned your son

your gypsy son is running the peaky blinders like it's 1919 all over again

I can't help him because I'm not a bad man anymore

it's good trailer so it's yet another gothic romance I mean you could you heard that it was kind

of very ghostly tale of lost loves and empty houses and ghostly memories and I kind of hint

of something vaguely supernatural going on it's also yet another example of the salability if you

do it right of period drama with modern pop stylings you know I mean the soundtrack in this was

thunderous I saw this in a screening room in which somebody may have turned the projectionist

to turn it up to 11 but there's a lot of you know there's like shots of iconic figures even

iconic if you haven't seen the series walking in very slightly slow motion to really kind of

grinding guitars and you know bram bram bram bram is it is it Nick cave specific is Nick cave is in it

he does that yeah there is it there is it and Nick cave song in it because the style of the

style of the TV series was kind of it seemed to be absolutely wedded to his music yes yes yes absolutely

and and and and and and you and you understand why because because you know he's the man for that

job it looks terrific and when you've got a cast that's got Murphy and Ferguson and Roth and

Graham and Keoghan on screen it would be really hard to to to mess it up the question is and

Barkey are going to replace the song with I've said that Barkey organ plays the son the kind

of the guys out of control um so the question is okay how will it play to somebody who loves

peaky blinds has seen all the peaky blinders which is you because I can't answer that because I

have not seen the series what I can tell you is that as a total newbie it filled in as much as I

needed to know to enjoy it with surprisingly little dialogue I mean there's no basil exposition

there's no somebody sitting down and recapping the stuff that's happened before the themes are

classic so you know from Greek tragedy to westerns you know you know what the themes have been

dealt with our fathers and sons and returning and blah blah blah all that stuff I just slipped

right into it there's a there is a scene in it in which a father and son wrestle in pig manure

which is a little on the nose but I had no problem with that because it's it's not you know it's

got a kind of um graphic novel sensibility to it and the best thing about it is that I

whilst I enjoyed watching the film it did make me think actually I've got to go back and watch

a TV series now because if the TV series is anything like this then I would find I would find it

very entertaining but I do think it's quite a credit to the film that for somebody who did not

know anything I mean I genuinely have just sort of seen little fragments of picky blinders

I perfectly understood the story and it didn't ever feel the need to explain the story to me

it's not very dialogue heavy it's it as I said there isn't a basil exposition moment it just does

it on the basis of big themes familiar themes let's go and I enjoyed it yeah it's it's terrific

and the episodes in the in the TV series where Kilio Murphy is an MP and is in conflict with the

Mosley fascists I think it's Sam Claflin who plays Oswald Mosley but he's absolutely terrifying

and it's really really gritty uh and gripping stuff so I'm looking forward to it very much

good I'm very interested to know what you think of it because obviously what I think of it

as someone who he hasn't seen the TV series is very very different to what the what a big part of

the core audience will be when does it drop mug it drops in cinemas on Friday okay all right

and then it's on Netflix yes it'll be on Netflix later so there'll be a theatrical window

all right okay finally Lynn Eldon in the witter one chatroom on patreon spotted this she says

the chase on ITV answered correctly though I'm not sure mark is going to be entirely happy

with the pronunciations here's a bit of the totally here's a question

what is the main subject of the podcast commode and mayo take a film and TV reviews

the current affairs see pop and rock music you've put film and TV reviews yeah absolutely you

heard it I've heard it yeah it was used to be on five live I think there you go so apart from the

fact that Bradley Walsh like some other people get your name wrong um we're in it so we're in

the quiz there we go there we go you got to be in it to win it I've just looked this thing up theatrical

screenings begin March 6th although some places say March the 5th of peaky blinders and then on Netflix

March 20th that's that's that's what Google AI thinks but then as we all know Google AI thinks

that I quite liked a film that I hated that is here to take one this has been a Sony music entertainment

production this week's team Jen Eric Josh Heather and Dom the reductive Simon Paul and if you're

not following the pod already please do so wherever you get your podcasts come and join us over

there on patreon for all the good stuff a quick hi to new altras Richard Talbot beard I think it's

just someone who appears to be called beard we don't have any other name Lauren Morley and Robert

Holloway you're all very welcome Mark what is your film of the week well in the tradition of

Oklahoma exclamation mark and mother exclamation mark my film of the week is the bride I thought

you're going to say mother's pride there just for a moment and correspondent of the week I'm going

to give the years ultra membership to Saham Husaini from Moonrise motion pictures who got in touch

telling us about his ambition to maybe one day make a film yeah about the IRGC crackdown in Iran

so which sounds like so we'll give you that and then see what happens so uh Saham thank you very

much indeed um thank you very much dee for listening get in touch uh correspondents at kubernetes.com

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