Doom Tiffs #1: Amjad Masad, Eliezer Yudkowsky, Helen Toner, Roon, Lee Cronin, Naval Ravikant, Martin Casado, Yoshua Bengio

In today’s episode, instead of reacting to a long-form presentation of someone’s position, I’m reporting on the various AI x-risk-related tiffs happening in my part of the world. And by “my part of the world” I mean my Twitter feed.

00:00 Introduction

01:55 Followup to my MSLT reaction episode

03:48 Double Crux

04:53 LLMs: Finite State Automata or Turing Machines?

16:11 Amjad Masad vs. Helen Toner and Eliezer Yudkowsky

17:29 How Will AGI Literally Kill Us?

33:53 Roon

37:38 Prof. Lee Cronin

40:48 Defining AI Creativity

43:44 Naval Ravikant

46:57 Pascal's Scam

54:10 Martin Casado and SB 1047

01:12:26 Final Thoughts

Links referenced in the episode:

* Eliezer Yudkowsky’s interview on the Logan Bartlett Show. Highly recommended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8q9bjNHeSo

* Double Crux, the core rationalist technique I use when I’m “debating”: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/exa5kmvopeRyfJgCy/double-crux-a-strategy-for-mutual-understanding

* The problem with arguing “by definition”, a classic LessWrong post: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cFzC996D7Jjds3vS9/arguing-by-definition

Twitter people referenced:

* Amjad Masad: https://x.com/amasad

* Eliezer Yudkowsky: https://x.com/esyudkowsky

* Helen Toner: https://x.com/hlntnr

* Roon: https://x.com/tszzl

* Lee Cronin: https://x.com/leecronin

* Naval Ravikant: https://x.com/naval

* Geoffrey Miller: https://x.com/primalpoly

* Martin Casado: https://x.com/martin_casado

* Yoshua Bengio: https://x.com/yoshua_bengio

* Your boy: https://x.com/liron

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