Dr. Will Cole: Fix Your Cellular Health to Reclaim Energy, Slow Aging, and Perform at Your Best| Health & Wellness | E415

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3:06than the people older than you at the same age. How does that make sense though, because everybody says we're living longer? There's many people in their 20s and 30s and 40s that have cells of 60-year-olds today. That's crazy. Common, not normal. So like, 44, you get like a big aging spike. And the problem is it's just you're jumping off the ground. What are like two or three practical things that we can do to just reduce the amount of environmental toxic load? It starts with what's in your house, right? Just one scratch of a non-stick, like a teflon-type pan release over 9,000 plastic particles. If your brain cells were aging more rapidly, the researchers at Stanford found that you had about it. Well, welcome to Young & Profiting. Thanks so much for having me. Can I just say, thank you so much for a few years ago having me on your podcast and rooting for me then. And then when I reached out, you answered right away. And I said, I have this book coming out. Like, can I come on the show and chat with you and catch up?

4:08And I just, your kindness is off camera. And not everybody can say that, right? I can say that to everybody. And you're the real deal. And congratulations on the network and all the amazing things and see how God's working through you. Thank you so much. Well, of course, I wanted you back on the show because you provided so much value last time. We talked all about gut health. I learned so much. You were one of my first doctors that came on the show. And then I started interviewing so many different biohackers. So that was really cool. And today, we're going to talk about cellular health because you have a new book that's coming out I think it's September called Heal Yourselfs. And cellular health is so important. And one of the most new things, unique things that I learned when I was reading your book is that parts of our body don't age all at the same rate. And that is something I had no idea about. So your heart and your kidneys and your immune system and your metabolism all can age at different rates.

5:10And so my first question to you is, how is this possible? Yeah, many people don't know. I'm not just know this, but why it's so important because when we're looking at the United States and really when any Western society right now, but the US specifically spends more health care on health care than any industrialized nation. Yet we have the most chronic disease and the shortest lifespan of all Western nations. And we spend the most for it economically. But we're paying a human price for it too. Not just in the quantity of our life and not just the quantity of life, but the years of healthy years, the health span, not just our lifespan. But yes, one of the cornerstone studies that I talk about in Heal Yourselfs and I wrote the book with Dr. Josh Axe, a friend of mine and colleague of mine in the functional medicine space. It was a Stanford study. It was published in Nature in 2023. They found that one in five Americans have at least one organ aging more rapidly than other organs. And why that's important is,

6:11and that equates to about 23 million Americans. It's a lot of people. But why it's so compelling and why we wanted to write about this and other longevity researches, it's all down to cellular health. I mean, if you can actually heal the cell, you can deal with a lot of these chronic diseases. If your brain cells were aging more rapidly, the researchers at Stanford found that you had about an 80% increased risk of a neurodegenerative issue. Like Alzheimer's or some sort of neurodegenerative problem. If your heart cells were aging more rapidly than the rest of your body, you had about a 250% increased risk of heart failure, heart attack and stroke, but just one in two Americans are, it's killing one in two Americans. And 50% of Americans that have a heart attack, their first symptom is death. And I lost my dad suddenly in a car accident because we think he had a heart attack or at least some cardiovascular event lost consciousness and it caused him to crash the car.

7:13So that was one of the pivotal roles of me just diving into, okay, why is this happening? Why are so many people, not just people in their 60s, a baby boomers, but we're seeing so many people getting heart disease, heart, cardiovascular problems, autoimmune problems, cancers in their 20s and 30s and 40s. And they look healthy, they look fit and muscular and healthy, but then underneath that all, they might have heart issues. That was my dad. He was a body builder, he was into fitness, he was into health, he was here one second gone the next. And I've seen some, and Dr. Axe, who wrote the book with me, had his father and the last same thing. I did all the wellness stuff here one day gone the next. So this concept of uneven aging and not just looking at problems for the sake of it and saying, well, we can't do anything about it. Actually, it's the empowering thing is, when you know what you're dealing with, you can do something about it because largely these things are reversible, healable, overcomable things, but we have to do something different to see something different, which is why, we call the book Heal Yourselfs and the subtitle is reversing the irreversible

8:15because the world and the system that the world runs and says there's nothing you can do, just take this medication, see you later. But actually, the science is pointing to actually quite opposite. We have a lot of agency on our health but we have to actually do something about it. Yeah, and what else was interesting for me is the fact that when we're looking at our body, it's better for us to think about what is the system that is failing the most or what is the system that I need to be worried about the most? Like, am I having gut issues and that's the thing that I really need to focus on first. So you really want to figure out what is the system that is failing the most and work on that first, correct? Absolutely, yeah. Now, they're on a clinical level because we still run a telehealth clinic. So obviously for telehealth patients, we run labs, you can look at DNA methylation and some of the hallmarks that the Stanford group looked at, we can look at these different organs, 11 different organs is what Stanford looked at. And we could look at similar ones of how cells and specific type of organs and not just the organ cells themselves

9:16but the type of cells within the organ, that's the follow-up study, just this summer. They're just in June of this year. Different types of cells within that same organ can age more rapidly. So we can get very precise. This is just cutting it stuff. But yes, we have to know what organs age more rapidly or what's your pain point. Everybody has, there's so much bio-individuality to that, right? Based on genetics, but genetics loads the gun and epigenetics pulls the trigger. There's something in our life that's causing that accelerated clock, that cell clock to be aging more rapidly. So yes, we look at labs, DNA methylation, inflammation markers to look at that and somebody's health history, obviously, is important in their family history. But beyond that, in the book, we adapted questions that we asked Nutella Health patients and Cesselia Health Report Card to kind of see, it's not the same as a lab, obviously. But I wanted people to see what organ maybe the weakest for me, maybe for some people, it's their gut and they always have digestive problems

10:16and there are some good clinical pearls, some telltale signs that their body is giving them a proverbial check engine light. Like something's off here, the body's nudging them to pay attention and our hustle, culture, we're so divorced from our body. And our body, as oftentimes, is giving us some clues. Pay attention to me, pay attention to me. And we're not aware or conscious of paying attention to these signals that our body's giving us. Yeah, most of my listeners are like late 20s to like early 40s, even some like late 40s, 50s. What should we be paying? Like what are the common things that we should be paying attention to in terms of like realizing that a system is failing? Another study published in Nature, Nature has so many good studies on PubMed. But this is another summer of 2026 study, recent study that found that people born after the year 1965, were aging significantly more rapidly than people born prior to 1965. But specifically, people born in the 1990s.

11:20Basically every decade after 1965, if you were born in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, every decade, the younger you are, you are actually aging more rapidly than the people older than you at the same age. How does that make sense though, because everybody says we're living longer. We're living longer lifespan by a few years, but it's not a great health span. So we're aging more rapidly, but we can keep people alive longer today because of modern medicine, but we can't keep them healthier with modern medicine. So we see that in elderly homes, right? I mean, they're alone, hopped up on tons of medication, completely sedentary and depressed. It is a miserable existence. So that's not what we're talking about here. So of course, we wanna add years to your life, but can we also add life to your years? And that's with all this whole longevity, chatter in the biohacking space. I think they lose the plot because it's like, what's, how can we add quality of your life

12:20to the here and now? Not just look for the promise to the future, which of course I'm interested in living a long thriving life and being able to play with my grandkids someday and enjoy life and not be in that space that many elderly people find them. But for myself in my forties or people in their 20s and 30s, like how can we enjoy life now? I see so many of my friends that are kept back from living the life that God created them for because they're fatigued and they have nervous system and there's this regulation. They have other inflammatory problems. That's not a great quality of life. So yeah, the science is pointing to the fact that there's many people in their 20s and 30s and 40s that have cells of 60 year olds today. That's crazy. Common, not normal. I really wanna dive deep on this whole concept of aging and there's all these different like aging phrases or ways to calculate it. You've got your biological age, you've got your chronological age and you've got your cellular age. Can you break down the differences between those? Yeah, so the chronological age is how much,

13:23how many years, how many birthdays have you had? The biological age and the cellular age, I would say pretty much the same. It's overall understanding what's happening at the cellular level. What's your cell's age, which can be very, very different and we can actually quantify this. Looking at different metrics like inflammation, like DNA methylation and other health biomarkers that can aggregate more or less where your cellular age is. And many people are aging more rapidly. But many people think, well, to your point, people in their 20s and 30s or 40s, I don't have to be thinking this idea of longevity isn't really sexier but not really into it. And that's why it's like to me, they're missing the point. Missing point is like, yes, we all kind of have a cellular credit score whether you know it or not and we can improve it. And what you are dealing with in your 60s and 70s and 80s, you actually start investing in your 20s and 30s and 40s. You can't wait until you're in your 60s

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19:30but one on one, it's not like, you know, it's, we're seeing people one on one online. I would take all of that data important. I would take it all important knowing what you're getting done. I think all of this conventional data is important. There's going to be bigger deals and smaller deals, potentially, right? So I think the context around these biomarkers matters. What I think you should do is actually send me the labs afterwards. I will give you my life. I will definitely do that for sure. So I think one of the things I would look at, this is what I'd look at, well, let me just say this. Yeah. I am assuming everything's going to be fine. Yeah. You're a healthy, vibrant person. And I don't want people to become hyper-conductor or become obsessive about this. Dressing about your health isn't good for your health. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going to assume it's just going to be a good pad on the back and say, you're doing everything great. And cool. It's a snapshot in time. It's a great, great report card. And we could check in next year. That's what I would assume. But if there is something off, the beautiful thing,

20:30the grace in all of this, is that by you being proactive about your health, you could do something about it. It might my angelos said, when you know better, you do better. Well, labs are a no better thing. And you can do something about it. So I think some of the areas I think are the most helpful for the average person are inflammation markers. And you're going to look at that. High sensitivity, see, reactive protein. Homa cysteine is another one, specifically having to do with cellular, both have to do with oxidation. Because when they're high, it's the cells kind of saying, hey, I'm not safe. And they're trying to protect us, trying to protect themselves. But it's showing that something is threatening the cells. And we want to find out what's the root upstream cause of that threat. And it could be both physiological, physical, or mental emotional spiritual things like stress and trauma. And looking at both of those things, and that's where health history comes in. So I would say, let's look all of it. And then the great thing about looking at conventional biomarkers like that

21:31is we also can look at the tighter interval within that larger reference range to where our body functions the best. And that's where we get our name in functional medicine. So we're looking at optimal, not average, which we probably talked about the last time I was here. But the lab's reference range is based on that statistical bell curve average of people who go to labs. Scott, and people that go to labs aren't the healthy group of people. So what we're looking at is where it is the longest vibrant, like lives live. Where does the health span longevity people live? That's the functional range. So yeah, I think that that's a great illuminating proactive tool for you to then say, okay, what's, what are the things that need to focus on? Yeah, but in terms of the biological age that they're going to give me, I feel like every time I hear somebody tell me their biological age, it's always younger than their chronological age. Are they lying to us? I don't know, like is it real? Should we really take that seriously? There's a lot of labs out there that I don't know their system and what they're basing that calculation on.

22:33So not everything is accurate out there. So I want to look at the reproducibility, the credibility of the tests. But this, like for example, the Stanford researchers and us looking at DNA methylation, it's an estimate. These are estimates of like more or less where can they be. But I think, you know, we want to put the all labs in context. Yeah, and also like you mentioned, like the people who get labs are usually unhealthy. So you're like, we're using it on the average. You're like unhealthy person maybe. Right, it's yeah, exactly. But I think it's a ballpark is what I would say a lot of these labs can say a ballpark. Am I trending in the right direction or am I not? And it's not, it's not even as we talk about and heal yourselves. You may be great in some areas and then some pain points in other areas. So it's, I think the context around this data is important. Yeah. So there's lots of things that impact yourselves. One of them is what you eat, of course.

23:34Talk to us about, you know, I feel like there's a lot of information out there about what we should be eating. But what's your like best guidance in terms of how to navigate our nutrition? The foods are instruction manuals to ourselves, right? I mean, they're determining how quickly or how slowly that cellular clock ticks and talks. And we have agency on the rapidity or the slowness of that cellular clock ticking. So it's not just about what we're eating. It's when we're eating. A lot of researchers are talking about the chronobiological disorder. So basically things like type two diabetes, heart disease, and insulin resistance feeds many types of cancers that is this. Yes, these are inflammatory problems. But in the foods we eat, either feed inflammation or fight inflammation, there's no neutral food. There's no Switzerland. I'm doing nothing for your physiology meal. But so what you eat matters, but when you eat, the science is pointing to also, so the whole concept of time compressed feeding or time restricted feeding,

24:36intermittent fasting, or fasting mimicking ways of eating is a tool that we have to slow down that cellular clock. So you are right. In the sense of you're going to ask 100 different doctors in that wellness space. You're going to get 100 different opinions pretty much. We can get into the granular details of it. But I think there's so much bio individuality to this topic. Yes. Because I look at people in their health history and their labs all day long. So if I hung my hat on one way for everybody, I'd be proven wrong all day long. Because you could say, for example, a meditrani and diet has lots of great studies around it, right? But what if that person has fod map intolerance from SIBO? And lots of greens and grains. And it's causing a lot of bloating. So you say, keep doing that. It doesn't make that version of the meditrani diet. There's different ways that you even do a meditrani and diet. Doesn't make that bad. But it makes it, it's not loving that person back right now. So, and then there's many examples of that. Things like fermented foods, right?

25:38They have a lot of data. I love the data on sour crout and kimchi and kefir. But if you have histamine intolerance, mass cell activation syndrome, which we see a lot clinically, that's gonna flare some people up. Does that make even bone broth? Bone broth is like the pinnacle of the gut L food that we talked about for years. It can be depending on how you cook it, to be higher in histamines. So there's no heart, there's very few hard and fast rules other than of course, eat real food and decreased processed ultra processed foods. If I had to say what are the inflammatory core for that don't love most humans back, would be gluten-containing grains, industrial seed oils, a canola oil, soybean oil. And that specifically, we talk about it in the heal yourselves. How the impact cellular membrane health added sugar in the absence of fiber. And then I would say conventional dairy. Now, there's better for you versions of even those, like a sourdough, ancient gran, wheat can work for some people, not for other people.

26:39They're better seed oils, like a organic cold pressed, sunflower oil, technically seed oil. But is that what's killing America? No. So to lump all seed oils, or to lump all grains, or to lump all dairy, or to lump all even sugar, is reductive. So there's a lot of nuance and context to these conversations. So I like getting into the weeds of like, what loves your body back. And that's part of what we teach in the book. Instead of this sort of like, this is my camp. This is the carnivore camp, or the vegan camp, or the meditrant, whatever, keto camp. We're all different. And even within the camps, there's still a lot of variation and bioindividuality to these food conversations, nutrition conversations. Yeah. So I wanted to dig deep on this concept of biochemical individuality. And that was a concept that was discovered, I think by Dr. Roger Williams. Yes. Why you've done your research? I have. And so I'd love for you to tell us what he discovered exactly

27:40because I thought that was really cool. Yeah. Yeah. We talk about it in the book. Is that the, it's, we're all unique. We're all unique. And he was called a quack. He was, people kind of put him, didn't understand it. Any disruptor, you know, it's, they, typically, vilified at the start. And then years later, oftentimes before these people are gone, like after these people are gone, that's when they're validated. And science catches up with these guys, these pioneers, science catches up with antiquity. That we're so unique. The idea that this is going to be a one thing for everybody. And that's one of the blessings. And I use that word loosely there of AI. Yeah. That we can use AI in smart, hopefully smart, regulated, thoughtful, constrained ways to be more precise. Because there's only so many hours in the day. And I'm only one human being for me to say, OK, how many people can I even help in a day?

28:43And then on top of that, brain power of a human. So to get precise, and like we were talking about with lab data, getting more precise, I'm not just food prescriptions, quote unquote, but also on herbal peptides, my body practices, all these things. So I am hopeful that we can get more, but that's what that doctor was talking about. Is that we're all different? Yep. And the idea that we can say we can have 100 people with a low thyroid problem, for example. And what one low thyroid case needs, the other person doesn't need, is an under conversion of T4 to T3, is it Hashimoto's disease, is it thyroid resistance? So he didn't get into the weeds of that, but I think he saw enough in his research to show that there's so much bioindividuality to this concept. And that was talked about decades and decades ago, in his life, that now this is the future of medicine. Yeah, this is how healthcare is evolving, with function, how is it in your company and everything like that?

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31:47plastic, BPA-free, plastic bubble because that's not stressing isn't good for your health. This is so important, guys. This is the context of this, but we still have to talk about it. We can't just have our head in the stand and because it may ruffle some feathers. But yeah, it's a massive problem. Overwhelming majority, almost all of us have these forever chemicals, micro-postics in our body, common, not normal. I look at these environmental toxins tests. I see them high on nearly everybody. And by high, I mean, even trace amounts. But is there a healthy amount of micro-plastics in somebody's body, especially when researchers are finding that it's, it may be these micro-plastics, at least a piece of the puzzle, contributing to this, because they accumulate in the plaque, the artery arterial plaques, actually contributing to this inflammatory response because the body's like, what the heck? So the immune system cells are saying, I need to get this micro-plastic or forever chemical out of the artery. And is that why we're seeing one to Americans having heart attacks and strokes?

32:48Is implication and cancer and fertility issues, which the United States is below the total replacement level? I mean, we have a massive fertility problem. I mean, I think it's 70% of the world is below the total replacement level. Meaning we don't have enough people to replace ourselves without immigration. I mean, this is where we're at, is it world today? Why? Why has changed? It's not our genetics. It's the environmental issues. So, and then another thing I look at are these herbicides and pesticides. May most of the people that I measure on labs have these things coming out of their urine. There's not a normal amount of pesticides that should be coming out of your urine. Yes, I'm glad that your body's brilliant enough to clear this stuff out, but why is it in there in the first place? So it is another thing that you can, as you can imagine, make ourselves feel unsafe. So the body has this innate ancient mechanism called the cell danger response. And that cell that's meant to protect you, there's these pathways that upregulate

33:49to say, I need to defend you, and the cells get defensive. And that's happening on a micro level. The cell membrane, this sort of gatekeeper that gets nutrients in and gets by products of energy out becomes more hard, becomes more rigid. The cell membrane loses its fluidity and it becomes oxidized, almost like a rusted cell. And what's happening on the membrane, it's also receptor sites for different hormones. So that's implicated in the sort of hormonal crisis we're seeing today and fertility issues being a part of that. But these sertuins get stressed out, especially from environmental toxins that we're talking about, herbicides, pesticides, microplastics, forever chemicals, heavy metals. These guardian angels of our DNA, of our genome as a whole, these sertuins, then kind of are playing catch-up, just trying to defend yourselves that it can't keep up. So these whole mechanisms get thrown to this threat state. So the goal is not to avoid them and these environmental toxins entirely, because we can't.

34:50But the body's amazingly resilient, but we have to give it a fighting chance. And we don't have the wiggle room that our ancestors had, because most of these environmental toxins have only been in the human landscape for a few decades. I blip in time when you're putting that into context with the totality of human history. So something to deal with, not obsessed about, not to live in fear around, because the body does have these mechanisms to clear this stuff out, but we have to actually facilitate it. Yeah, so talk just about that. What are like two or three practical things that we can do to just reduce the amount of environmental toxic load? It starts with what's in your house, right? I mean, you could go really basic. The environmental working group has a new list every year, or so they update it. It's a clean 15 and the dirty dozen. I think that's a basic, most people know about it, but just go and look, it's the produce, the fruits and vegetables mainly, that are the clean 15 of the fruits and vegetables that tend to have the lowest herbicides and pesticides, and the dirty dozen tends to have the highest. Okay. So shop there, meaning that if you're on a budget,

35:53and you can't buy all organic or don't have access to all organic, don't stress. Do the best you can and give the rest to God, because it doesn't have to be perfect. Wash off the clean 15 if it's conventional and not organic, but swapping for organic fruits and vegetables whenever you can is a good idea. Okay. I mean, we could go through the whole house, but we probably don't have time for that. But like the, the kitchen's one area that I would say, swapping out any non-stick pan for either a cast iron skillet or a non-toxic non-stick pan. Okay. Because that's a major, just a single scratch, just a study out of California, I believe. Just one scratch of a non-stick, a conventional non-stick, like a Teflon type pan, release over 9,000 plastic particles. Wow. Right. I mean, wild. So super simple. Like there's swaps for most of these things. So look at the things you're using on a daily basis. The bio-accumulation,

36:53this sort of cellular accumulation that can happen when your cells are like, okay, cool. Here and there, no big deal. But you're cooking here every single day, are you having this thing every single day? That's where things can add up. Yeah. And then look at all the other, I mean, going to like quickly the laundry room, like swapping out your laundry detergents and soaps and things like that, it should not be smelling like this fake sort of sense. Like just swap out guys. Like there's so many better things. You can get it, target and Costco and Sam's Club that are decently priced, that don't have all these sense and additives, and then going up to the personal care stuff. Like really vet the makeup to using the skin care products you're using really important. And then you can get into the weeds of all different types of things. I think EMFs, they're actually something else that you need to look at. It's invisible, but doing the best you can to minimize EMFs is a great thing. So even if it's just turning off your Wi-Fi router at night, like do you really need the Wi-Fi at night? I mean, some people do, because even their alarm clocks attach to Wi-Fi,

37:55but I would get the gold fast. Really? Like actually turn off your Wi-Fi, not just like put your phone away? I mean, look, the more you do the better. Yeah. So do the best you can with whatever doesn't stress you out. Like I don't want people to become maniacal zealots about this, but meet yourself for your app. Yeah. Lean into it and then progress over time as this becomes less overwhelming. So yeah, it's base, sleep with that phone outside of the room. But I would go a step further and turn your Wi-Fi off, because you're sleeping in an electric box. Yeah. So you want those, because that's another thing that accelerates cellular aging is our sleep, our light itself, like the blue light, that's accelerating our cellular clocks as well. But it's these deep sleep states that we need to get to. And some people are more sensitive than others, and you can track on the sort of the wearables, but even that has low grade Wi-Fi. So I don't even like using those trackable devices, like the rings and the bands long term for most people,

38:57because hey, it's like, okay, do you really need more data for an infinite item forever and ever? Then you stress about your sleep story. You're constantly stressing. But I do think using technology smart, pointed, pulsed, when it makes sense, and then keep it intuitive and basic, and yeah, minimize EMF exposure as much as possible. Some of these are small. I don't want to overblow it. The small frequencies, but it's adding up. It's Wi-Fi there. It's 5G there. It's your phone sitting next to you right there. So it's the overall entourage effect that all of this stuff plays. So the more you can start to take a dent into how much you're exposed to is a good idea. I mean, you could go all the way up to where, covering your bed with a fair day cage, which blocks EMFs entirely. Depends on how nerdy you want to get. Yeah. But yeah, the more you do the better. Totally. And I think for a lot of the listeners tuning in, and we probably are pretty good with our eating. We've been taught for a long time, like avoid processed foods, fat, sugar, all these things. But environmental toxins is probably something

39:59we can all focus a little bit more on. And there's also biological toxins. And I believe like metabolic toxins, which I didn't realize was a thing. Oh, yeah. Well, when your cell's back to that cell danger response, if your body's all feeling unsafe, and the goal of this is from physiologically physical factors, whether it be an environmental toxin or food that doesn't love you back or eating too late, and you're not getting a reprieve, or it's things like stress and trauma, anything, whether it's physical or mental emotional spiritual, what's making your cells feel unsafe? When that happens, and that cell membrane becomes more rigid, your mitochondria starts shifting from producing ATP. These are the cellular energy factories of your cells. And you need it for energy. So think brain fog fatigue. A lot of people's health problems actually might have condrial issues. But then it becomes, you almost, we get these leaky mitochondria. You know, people have leaky gut syndrome, or leaky brain syndrome,

41:00which is impacting anxiety, depression, and brain fog and fatigue. But you're actually on a cellular level, you have leaky mitochondria with this threat, hypervigilant cellular state. And your cells are releasing these reactive oxygen species. So these byproducts of energy, which stresses out this, or two lenses, guardian angels of the genome, even more, they're like, okay, I need to defend you. But you're not giving me a reprieve here. They're always working. So they kind of lose their way and just trying to maintain the backup of these toxic byproducts. The problem is because the cell membrane is more rigid, these toxins aren't able to get out of the cell as easily. So that's why healing the cell membrane is a key part of what we talk about in healing your cells. And just clinically, it's just so important because that's where the hormonal receptor sites are. But that's also where nutrients get in, nutrient deficiencies at a cellular level, but also getting the bad stuff, or it's not like the bad,

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46:09like skin is pretty fast, blood is pretty fast, your stomach is pretty fast, but then other body parts are slower. So why is that the case? Well, the simple answer is, wait, God made it. But next, it's just how quickly or how slowly those cells function. So we have a greater grace period in certain like our gut's amazingly resilient. And the brain in theory is healing and can heal, but it's going to take slower for a lot of these, like myelin sheath destruction or neuroinflammatory spots. It's like, in theory, if you lived long enough, it could heal, but we only have so much time on this earth, even the longest living of us, right? And I want people, there's researchers clear, there's no reason why most of us can't live over a hundred disease-free, healthy, vibrant years. So that's the health span and lifespan aspect of this. But theoretically, the nervous system, which is one of the more slower areas to heal, it can heal, but you'd have to live to like over 250 years old

47:09or something like that, not that long maybe. But you know what I'm saying? The body is always healing some more rapidly than others. Yeah. So why another reason why it's so important to find out what's your cell-y-liberal report card? Because if it is this area that is like, we can't do much about it, it's just a slower healing area, you have to get on it. Yeah. Versus your gut, not to say that it's not difficult for some people because it can be very difficult. But I've seen the gut repair pretty dang quickly. Yeah, so it's like there's different areas that we may have more of a grace period than others. And there's an order of operations in terms of like, what we should do to actually heal ourselves, correct? Yeah, yeah, it is. And for the sake of the book, I wanted to keep it as simple as possible because there definitely is an order of operations. We have to stop this toxic load. I think it was one of the first things we need to do, which we kind of touched into. Like start if you haven't lean into the food aspects of it,

48:11lean into the environmental toxin to mitigate this. And then we didn't go deep into it, but yes, what we feed our body matters with breakfast, lunch, and dinner, but what are we feeding our head and our heart on a daily basis and the epidemic rise of spiritual disconnection, this sort of lack of some spiritual faith in our life as a humanity. That's also creating the cellular danger response. I would really, what, looking at the content and the constant stream of information we're consuming on a daily basis, that's impacting the cellular rapidity as well. Yeah. So not to be perfect, not to become obsessive, but to say how can we minimize the things that aren't loving us back? And maybe it's a food or maybe it's a relationship or maybe it's a job that is unsustainable and it's a toxic job. But these things matter because what good is it? If you've narrowed down the nutrient's dense, most amazing superfood, clean eating,

49:14you can think of, but you're serving your body a big slice of stress every day. Yeah. Or you're serving your body a big bowl of unresolved trauma every day in your body. These are more nebulous, more abstract and complex. Certainly, but they're really important. So I think one of the first things is just taking an inventory of like, what are the things that aren't loving my body back right now because those are the things that are causing yourselves to become defensive and age more rapid? Yeah, and not just like you said, not just physical but mental as well. So important, it's hard because it's more prescriptive for me to say eat these foods, do this type of fasting, take these peptides, all helpful tools. But how do you say don't have that stress or trauma? You can't say that, right? But it's so important. So we dig into that in the book because I see people do all the good biohacking, wellness stuff, right? Yeah, they want to jump to that first. Right. Right. But I get it. It's more linear and black and white. But these complex things need to be dealt with. I'm not saying you have to address it all right now because that's not how it works.

50:15But you need to at least lean into these dark corners of somebody's health. So I would say that's, if you talk about order of operations, I think this is one of the first things that people need to do is even acknowledge the things that are not loving them back at this point that's causing their cells to become defensive that's accelerating these pathways. Because these beautiful pathways that are meant to heal you are completely dampened when you have both either physiological or psychological stress in your life. Your body on a cellular level can't even distinguish between the two. Whether you're, it's an inflammatory food or toxic relationship or a burnout job, your cells all kind of respond the same way. Yeah. How do we let your cells know that it's safe? Cellular safety will cause a ripple effect of healing in your life. You actually have a great story in the book that really illustrates all of this. So you mentioned earlier, your dad tragically was killed in a car crash. And you said that you got grief body at that time.

51:17Yeah. Yeah. So back and up a little as of 2023. So I was on the eve of my last book before this, Gut feelings, which talked about stress and trauma around this and about gut health and autoimmunity. And it was a book about stress and trauma. So the irony was not lost to me of like my dad was here. And we had a great relationship towards the end, but as all parents, I think a lot of kids can say, yeah, sometimes relationships with our families are complicated sometimes. And it was healing. It was like getting in a great place. And that's them. I'll have to ask God one day, I don't have the answer. I'm like, wow, why could it have been the best it could be? And then he's gone. But that was part of it all of like, dang, man. Time is so short, right? And we don't know the time we have. So yeah, I was all of that of like replaying it in my mind and then thinking this guy that was a picture of health

52:18and then here then gone the neck, gone in a split second. And then lots of unanswered questions with the car accident. And then having to see not to get too graphic, but like your bloody dad on a metal table at a hospital and he's already gone. It's never easy whether it's a slow loss or a quick loss. But yeah, that was the impact that stressed in trauma. My body, something had to give. And the foods that I would be fine with, like I love a good hot sauce Tabasco. Like I put Tabasco, I'm one of those guys that used to put Tabasco on everything. Eggs, anything. What else, my son's off camera. I put it on literally everything. But I couldn't, I had no resilience. I might know my gut brain axis, your gut's your second brain, 95% of serotonin, 50% of dopamine is made and stored in the gut. So the cells of my gut and the cells of my brain were under like, whoa, we need to slow down. And I was back to back, that was my fourth book. I ran in a full and still do run a full telehealth clinic

53:20and I do my podcast twice a week. So I had to practice what I taught. And I was found myself in the same place, like a lot of hotel health patients. We know we're doing more than most people are about health. I wasn't eating the standard American diet. The worst thing that I eat is like an organic Valencia peanut butter, which some people in my space would say, I'm slowly poisoning myself, but I love my peanut butter and I have no shame about that. The whole point being is like, I was doing better things than the average person. And I still was like, hit that burnout. Yeah. And to dig deep into some of the practices that I talk about in the book, like somatic practices in trauma work and EMDR and journaling to sort of metabolize stored stress and trauma in my body that yes, it hit a zenith, the tipping point with my dad, but really was a lot more than that. And that was just the tip of the iceberg. But now, you know, I've never feel, I feel better than I ever have now, but it took some healing and I wanted to share what worked for me

54:20in the book for the people that have done all the things. Yeah. How do you take it to the next level? And that's what heal yourself is for. Yeah, it's crazy to think because for me, when I think of like mental like trauma, I feel like it's like this abstract thing in your mind. And you don't actually think that it's really impacting your physical health. And that's what you're saying is that you've got to heal your trauma so that you can fully heal your body. Well, epigenetically, it's one of the things that's coding on your epigenetics. It's these codes instruction manuals for how DNA is expressed. Yet can be environmental toxins or can be an inflammatory food or eating too often, not having a proper fasting window. But it's also things like stress and trauma actually codes and upregulates these genes that we don't always want to be turned on like inflammatory genes or, you know, a gene for an autoimmune condition or fertility issues, whatever the case may be. But they are epigenetically regulating cellular expression. Part that saying I mentioned earlier, genetics loads the gun. Epigenetics pulls the trigger.

55:22So yeah, something that's pulling the trigger for one person isn't for the next person, but it typically is a confluence of different factors. And for me, it was just pretty obvious that it was the stress piece. And again, for someone that loves what they do. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs and business people, we don't, it's hard to see where it's so relative, right? Yeah. Most people that I talked to in that type of position, how high is your stress? They wouldn't even know. It's our baseline, your stress all the time. Yeah, that's just because something's common doesn't make it normal. Just because you can carry it, doesn't mean you should carry it. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, it's like boundaries and out and delegation and support and reaching for help. And being okay with doing nothing, which is really difficult for people. Like us, like myself, I can speak for myself. It's hard for me to slow down. But some of the best medicine is just saying no and like laying on the couch and just like chilling and unplugging and getting off your phone, supporting the parasympathetic, the arresting, digesting,

56:24which that is another tool to tell the cell you're safe. So I prescribe Jomo, it's the antithesis to FOMO. You have the fear of missing out in our culture. Well, Jomo is the joy of missing out and finding it. And that's a deep, hard practice actually finding joy and missing out, missing out in business opportunities, missing out and hanging out with your friends, missing out. But sometimes that's, no, connection's important. But there's a season also to just be still and to heal and connect with nature, connect with God. So that was some of the hardest work for me. And I still am not great at it. I'll be honest, I haven't like, I'm not some monk living in an ashram. But it's something that I have found a better pace at slowing down, which myself are very thankful. I think a lot of entrepreneurs tuning in really need to hear this because a lot of us have been grind in grind mode for five, 10, 15 years. And now maybe the time to embrace Jomo, slow down a bit. And you will be the better version of yourself for it.

57:24You'll actually be more effective because you actually have more to give versus being this frenetic, distracted energy. You'll be laser focused when you need to show up to that meeting or that project. So more isn't always better. It's hard to have that discernment, but that's part of it too. When you have some stillness, you can have discernment and know what should you say yes to. And this isn't just being a hermit, anti-social hermit, which is easy for me to do as an introvert, but it's about having discernment. And when you're go, go, go all the time hypervigilant, it's really hard to you're just saying yes to whatever. And you have no idea of it's even the highest quality yes. So a couple of last things about cellular health. First thing I want to ask you about is rhythm. So it's really important to have really good circadian rhythm. What are some of the things that we can do to make sure that we're having good rhythm? And why is that so important? It's so important here. Yeah. So one of the things we talked, we actually covered quite a bit.

58:25The areas that are misaligned, are genetics haven't changed in thousands of years, but our world has changed dramatically. So what researchers call an epigenetic genetic mismatch. It's what's causing ourselves to age more rapidly. And there's an other quick study I want to say, is that it was a nature aging, which is again, just the summer. So it didn't make the book. But it's showing what we're talking about in the book is that there's two key areas in our life, age, or I'm 44 and age 60, that are these basically cellular aging cliffs, where it's a non-linear aging. And the problem is people that are born in the 80s and 90s, the 1980s and 1990s, millennials, and even more so for Gen Z, they're coming off that cliff faster. And they are accelerating faster around these key points. It's really important to, again, improve that cellular credit score in your 20s and 30s. So like 44, you get like a big aging spike. Like, and the problem is it's just, you're jumping off the, now people are jumping off that cellular aging cliff harder

59:26because of this misalignment. So basically, what kind of things can we do to improve circadian? I'm circadian rhythm, yeah. So light is resets the cellular clocks, specifically the brain central clock. And the brain central clock, the SCN part of the brain, tells the peripheral cellular clocks to be in sync. The problem is we have all this light pollution all day long. So it's back to that, again, people that have to be on their screens for work. Look, I'm in telehealth. So it's a blessing to be on, to talk to people around the world and have done it for a long years. But I need to have, like I have off camera right now, these bright yellow glasses, these blue light blocking glasses, they would be a lifesaver for anybody that has to be on their phone or a laptop because it will preserve not only your eyes and eye strain, which your retinol cells, I mean, the research out of Harvard right now with David St. Clair and healing these retinol damages, just so exciting with these Yom and Aka factors. But beyond what's able to do for eyesight,

1:00:29I'm just thinking about it from a cellular safety standpoint, is that when you're constantly your body thinks, especially at night, let's have blue light, it's really throwing off that sleep wake cycle. So cortisol, that stress hormone that's actually not bad, I mean, God made cortisol, it helps that productivity, it helps it's an endogenous immunosuppressant, so it's meaning it's a natural anti-inflammatory, you want for like the productive person out there, you want cortisol to be relatively higher in the morning, and then a nice, as shaped gradual slow down towards the end of the day. The problem is when you're looking at your screen all day long and you have poor sleep hygiene, you're staying up too late, on top of that eating too late at night, it's keeping cortisol up too high for too long, a breaking of the Goldilocks principle, not too high, not too low, but just right. So I don't want to pathologize cortisol, because it's a blessing, but we don't want, it's always behind. So we need to be consistent with these sleep habits and a couple of hours before sleep,

1:01:31I would prefer, if I'm talking to a patient, and I don't always practice what I teach here, but I would, at the very least, get a good quality blue light blocking glasses, next, like the most ideal would be to just be off of screens for a few hours, and then be consistent with the routine, a cooler temperature. Studies show in mid 60s Fahrenheit to 67, maybe is the highest in studies report, to be the best sleeping temperature, to improve these RAM and deep sleep and heart rate variability, which is an important marker for cellular safety, because that's the parasympathetic nervous system. So cold, lowering your core temperature, if you can't lower your home that cool, then a cool shower and the evening can be helpful. Have you heard of these sort of bed mats, like the chili pad, eight sleep, chili pad, they both have, will regulate your core temperature, a sleep mask, blackout blinds, make it as cave-like as possible,

1:02:32because that will enable you to improve these sleep scores, and that is helpful to slow down that cellular clock, because when the, you're getting blue light pollution all the time, your cells become unsinked. They kind of lose their way and lose track of time on a cellular level, and you don't want that. That's what's aging people faster. And so we need the rhythm, but then it's also good to kind of like stress and throw everything off so your body can be more resilient. Yeah, well all of this, yeah, especially with food and fasting, and the way the people exercise, the research is, that's a great point. So chronic stress that goes in on in perpetuity, it's that's too much stress, right? That's a misalignment. There's a mismatch between how our body is created and evolved and the world around us, but a little stress actually can be a great thing. The concept of hormesis, hermetic effects in the body, that's stressful,

1:03:33but it's pulsed, it's microdosed stress, it's intentional stress, and in some ways I think humanity needs to get a little bit more grit and resilience, but in a smart, pulsed, human-aligned way, these adversity mimetics is what researchers call them. How can we stimulate these preservation, protection healing mechanisms in the body, so your cells can actually become stronger and more resilient? So that, I mean, it could be anything, like fasting is a hermetic effect, cold plunging is a mimetic effect, adversity mimetic. Sonna is high intensity interval, rehab, training, which is like hit on steroids. I mean, there's a lot of ways to do pulsed microdosed stress to then say you're more resilient. So when life comes like that, whatever, environmental talks in that you are, you're breathing in somewhere, or that stress or trauma or that hard meeting at work, your cells are more resilient. So it's kind of like when you integrate

1:04:35hermetic or good stress in your life, it's like a cellular gym. So when the stuff that isn't so good, you'll be more resilient for it. And even down to the food which we didn't get into, but there's the concept of Xeno-Hormesis. It's these plant compounds that the plant went through stress and its life, so it kind of donates and shares it's what it's learned to our cells and teaches our cells to become more resilient. So think bitter foods and deeply rich pigments, fruits and vegetables, a lot of them have these polyphenols, these flavonoids that teach how they work. People hear about polyphenols and flavonoids and antioxidant properties. How do they actually work? They're stress compounds. They're teaching our cells, hey, we went through hell out there. We grew bugs, we're biting us. We were out in the drought. The harder that plant's life, the more rich it is in these pigments because they're defense mechanisms.

1:05:35And then when we eat it, it kind of teaches our cells to kind of have some grit and resilience to it. Which I think is beautiful. And I think intermittent fasting is pretty similar, right? It's kind of giving us some resilience. It's exactly your body says, okay, the food may not be coming. So those cell defenses, things shift when cell defense response, cell danger response happens. And you give your body some of these adversity mimetics, these hermetic, further its food fasting, cold heat, whatever. It starts to slow or something called mTOR, which mTOR is building up all of these, we need mTOR to build muscle, but we don't always want mTOR to be excessive. MTOR stands for mammalian or mechanistic target of rapamaiasin. God made it, it's not bad. We need to build muscle, but it's always high for too long, just like cortisol. MTOR and cortisol are always high in most of us. It's a breaking up that Goldilocks principle. So if we can lower mTOR at least sometimes, it allows our cell at least a reprieve to fix some things. So it upregulates autophagy,

1:06:35the cellular recycling pathways. It's sort of the anti-accelerated aging and your body, your cells are so smart. Your cell actually envelopes those toxic byproducts that I mentioned. Even environmental toxins, it envelopes them into these autofagasomes and then attaches it to this lysosome, which injects all of these enzymes to break down these toxic byproducts. We have a cleaning system, but we need to tap into the cleaning system. And you can't, if mTOR is always high and insulin blood sugar is always high or stress is always high, you need to give your body that cellular siesta and that takes some. That's basically not eating. So that you can enter autophagy, right? Exactly. And even these more, like deeper, there's a place for deeper fasts, like beyond even 72 hours. These mediated aspects of fasting can be even deeper where stem cells get activated in these deeper repairing mechanisms. Have you ever heard of prolon? Oh, yeah, fasting mimicking. Yeah, I tried that a few times. I really like it.

1:07:36It's like a five day fast. Basically, they give you some food. You don't break down your muscle and you get to stop. You're buying things that's fasting with that actually fasting. Yeah. And the ketogenic diet as a whole, and I love a Vulture Longer, a Vulture Longer, who's the guy researcher behind at USC, the fasting mimicking diet, great stuff there. And then I would say the ketogenic diet, done in a nutrient dense whole food way, is also another way, because what's happening? ketones are raised. ketones are a fuel, way to burn fat, but it's also an epigenetic modulator. It actually trains those cells to become more resilient. It lowers inflammation. Paracelsis, one of the fathers of modern medicine, he was known as the Martin Luther of medicine. He called fasting to physician with N. And the ketogenic diet would be a mimicking that. It's this inner cellular doctor that repairs things. But more isn't always better. People shouldn't always be fasting. That's called starvation. I mean, there's a context to these conversations that are important. Yeah. Okay, so I want to move on to some broader topics

1:08:38outside of cellular healing. But you guys should definitely go grab his book, heal yourselves. So ozemic obviously has sweeped a nation over the last two years or whatever it's been and everybody's on GLP. Fill it to that case. So you've got some pretty interesting thoughts around ozemic and especially what it's doing to our desires outside of just desiring food. Yeah. Look, I love the United States. I love, I think we have a lot of things and not just the United States. Western culture as a whole has obviously brought humanity a lot of great things. But the American way is if a little is good, more is better. And that's not true when it comes to health. Just like Ramesis, we're talking about, okay, what's the nuance and context of this? And we love to over-correct. Because I do find it interesting that as a culture, I don't want to get too controversial here. But like we were praising body positivity and there's no such thing as a bad food and health at any size. And apparently that ended abruptly for a lot of people as soon as the Zempo came on the thing.

1:09:39Look, one was problematic. There are foods that don't love the human body back. We were gaslighting people and pandering and placating people. But then we like to over-correct and now we're advocating for medically induced starvation mode, which people are overdoing these things and shutting down hunger. Yeah. Noise in balance is not a bad thing. You need to eat. So it's creating, I think, a lot of disorder eating that, oh, I'm feeling hungry. That's bad. Let's up the units and we're overdoing it. Look, I look at gut health for living. The body makes these GOP1 peptides endoddenously, naturally as we improve gut health. I am a fan of appropriately using microdose cyclical both and not either or approach to GLP ones and other types of peptides. Because when the gut is wrecked, even if you get someone's gut health improved dramatically, which we do all the time, maybe their gut's not going to ever produce enough GLP wine to be the best metabolic health because of modernity, because of what we've done

1:10:41as a human species to the planet and ourselves. The human microbiome has got microbiome is intimately connected to the soil microbiome and the soil that we food grow our food in. So I think a pragmatic logical approach is a both and not either approach to this. But the problem is we overcracked in America, not just this with many things, and we swing the pendulum in the completely other direction and we shut down these cues too much for too long in perpetuity. That is an issue. It's an issue, obviously there's all the medical side effects that people are talking about with gastroparesis and muscle loss and then gaining it all back. The minute you stop, I mean, there's a lot of problematic the sustainability of this is problematic. But also, I'm seeing this phenomenon that a lot of people are talking about it, but I've seen it firsthand with telehealth patients telling me they're seeing that in their family and friends are these ozemic personalities. Like they're becoming dull and they don't have very high in loads

1:11:42it's exacerbating some depression for them. It is too much of a good thing. And it's even impacting relationships. Yeah, it's shutting down their desire for food, but it's also impacting the cravings for love and relationships. It can help some people with their relationships because they feel more confident it'll actually improve their relationships. So I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater that's a horrible saying I apologize, but I think the sweet spot is the bio individuality of this. And what's the lowest dose needed to improve? And if you pair it with actually dealing with why you have the problem in the first place, which is not an ozemic deficiency, it's actually improving your gut and improving your metabolic health and dealing with nutrient deficiencies, you actually won't need that much GLP one. That's the conversation that we don't want to have in our culture because we love a good quick fix. Yep. And this is on like anything else. And this is directly proportional to people falling and love with their chatbots and AI and like completely having in unhuman relationships. I'm concerned with humanity when you look

1:12:44at the total replacement level and our fertility rate. And then this rise of people not caring about relationships as much. And it's not just ozemic's fault, but it's part of the conversation that we are what are we being sold and what are we choosing as a society? Yeah. And it seems like now that GLP one is mainstream and like traditional doctors are prescribing it. Now it just seems like it's become like a new bandaid that everybody's getting prescribed GLP ones. Yeah. And something I'm curious about. So my whole family's doctors. I've three siblings to all doctors. My dad passed away, but he was a surgeon. And I've realized like as I've been interacting with them over the years that years ago they were very against functional health. Like kind of like not very against, but like it seemed like clacky, right? Yeah, it was the other. Yeah. Not us. Now it's now like my sister's getting really

1:13:45into functional health and everything like that. And so she's like embraced and I think like more doctors are embracing it and understanding that there's like a full picture to look at. Can you talk to us about kind of like the evolution that's happening in healthcare? Yeah. I love that. I really do love it. And I have seen that because I've been, I started the first functional medicine telehealth clinic 16 years ago. So I've seen a lot over that time. And it used to get phone calls from people early, if it's in 2009 something like that. And people would call and say, how dare you say you could reverse type 2 diabetes? Like you're lying, you are like completely giving false hope. Now you're not gonna meet, not even a functionally minded doctor. This is your average conventional doctor. They're, if they're still saying you can't reverse type 2B is get a new doctor. Yeah. So that's like standard basic stuff. Like it's just like we know it's lifestyle driven. Yes, it's more difficult for some people to give severe insulin resistance. Of course, especially with this conversation of GLP ones. I mean, everybody's talking about it.

1:14:45But beyond even GLP ones, I think most doctors will be like, yeah, looking at food and exercise are a key point point. I think that's a simple example of how I've seen the industry change. What was radical 15 years ago? It's not radical anymore. So I think there's a few reasons for that. I think, well, I think we probably, in some ways infiltrated the system, I think, a bit, in the best of ways. I mean, mainstream institutions have functional medicine centers now. I mean, the Cleveland Clinic has a functional medicine center that wasn't around life or started. There's many mainstream medical and hospital systems that have integrated medicine and functional medicine systems. So I think they're not opening multi-million dollar clinics in institutions because of quackery. They're doing it because the data speaks for itself. And you're in the wrong side of history or really are so archaically tribal that you don't realize is actually welcome to 2026 and beyond. Yeah. I mean, this is the future of medicine is they both and not either approach. And it shouldn't be threatening. To me, it's like the wheat, let's have the best.

1:15:45Like if somebody needs a life-saving acute emergency, ER care, like if my dad could have been saved, I would want him at the ER with the best advancements of medicine not coming to me. Yeah. But when you talk about chronic health care, like dealing with autoimmune conditions, fertility issues, metabolic issues, think weight gain, anxiety, depression, functional medicine is a significant part of the solution. Yeah. If not the majority of it, I would say. Because we don't have this problem of chronic disease in the United States because of a pharmaceutical deficiency. But yet that's all the mainstream medical doctors are largely trained on as pharmacology, which has its place. But we need to change the way we're educating doctors. This is not an indictment on any individual physician. This is an indictment on a paradigm shift, which we're, I mean, not to get to political, but they're trying to change that. They're upping the nutrition hours because most doctors that are conventionally trained research shows would fail a basic nutrition test. But that's important because to fix, because the majority of people they're seeing are there

1:16:47because if not entirely because of lifestyle. Yeah. So this is a paradigm problem. This has to go, this goes back. When we talk about it in the book actually, the flexion report and sort of the subjugation of diversity and the fight in medicine, it became big money making orthodoxy. They became very cartel-like, let's just say, financial cartel that said we want them monopolized and it's going to be these petroleum-based pharmaceutical drugs. And that's how we're going to train them and we're going to consolidate the market. And anything else is going to be shut down and canceled and sometimes imprisoned. Yeah. And that's where we've been. But I think it's beautiful that it's changing now. It really is. It's so changing and it doesn't have to be this war. Let's come together, let's help people because when we're fighting each other as healthcare professionals, the only people that are hurting other people that need our help. Yeah. And I think it's entrepreneurs who are changing the game. It's the doctors that are creating their own private companies and their own volume and function health and your company. And that's who's changing the world. And I think the blessings of long-form conversations

1:17:51like the one we're having right now, the internet, long-form podcasts, the democcurization and decentralization of health information there used to be so many gatekeepers so they can control the narrative. Yeah. It was the five network televisions. It was the five o'clock news. They was all sponsored by whatever, whoever. And that was, and the guy with the white coat that you saw every six months would say it was trained by the system and that was it. Now, there's information that there's no gatekeepers on a lot of information, which is why it historically maybe has been so threatened, especially during COVID. But the reality is I think people are just so awake now in the best way I mean by that conscious, alert, informed, empowered. That is threatening to an old system. But actually, I think there's so much people, like most doctors got in this because they want to help people. Entrepreneurs are finding solutions to help people. So I think this is actually the benefit of obviously our culture and democracy and free market to let's work smarter, come together and level up

1:18:53because the data doesn't, it's not looking good. Maybe one thing if the system was producing great results, but the system's actually not great. The journal of American Medical Association with the United States spends the most but it has the worst outcome. So it doesn't take a rocket scientist or a woo-woo person to say we have to do something different. Yeah, we need a revolution. Yeah, we need change. Yeah, and if you're still clinging to the old way, why? Like what, what, that just like, it's not data driven at all. Yeah. Speaking of data and change, AI has really changed everything and you have some really unique takes on AI. So what is your thoughts around AI and healthcare, but also AI in general and how it's impacting the way that we think and the world in general? I think it's the American way too. If a little is good, more is better. I'm concerned about that. I think like somebody's wearable CGM, AI, their ring, the striking Raman Deep Sleep, AI, my electronic health records, AI, part AI.

1:19:57I think AI is in a lot of different things. That's not what I'm talking about. Those things all make people work smarter, not harder. Yeah. Become more efficient, be less stressed, become more powerful and impact-chip positive change. It's like AI version one, basically. AI, I'm all for baby AI. But the baby AI is turning to be maybe quite the monster. And maybe not right now. I think certainly we're in the honeymoon period with AI, but like all honeymoon's, they end. And I'm concerned of the end game without having a bit of a pause as a culture of the view behind some of the people behind these big companies, this race that they're all having, to say who's gonna be the biggest and who's gonna be the ones consolidating more power. That's on a macro level, philosophical level of these accelerationists, right? I mean, they are compelled to build as fast as possible and to beat the other. And the road to hell is paved with good intentions because they'll say, well, other countries will have it,

1:20:58China's gonna have it, Russia's gonna have it, so we have to beat them. So we're all erased to the bottom or erased to techno-authorianism because that's not to get too existential, but that's the worldview of some of these guys. Not all of them, but some of them. I'm concerned about some of these people and their end stage of where they see this going. But when I'm wearing my ororing and my thinking about that, no, I don't think it's inherently evil. I just think the system, every of you think of what's his name, Hinton, Jeffrey Hinton, and other guy, he left Google to be able to talk about this freely. Just look at Jeffrey Hinton's words. I mean, he says like, yeah, we put it the process in motion, AI, it's a blessing, but now we actually don't know how it works because it's becoming and chatting, it's becoming more smart than we are. So I'm concerned about the end game and then that's a macro existential thought that I have just from a societal health standpoint, but on a micro level, I'm concerned about these data centers and the impact they're having on our health.

1:21:59From an EMF standpoint, what it's doing to bees and what it's doing to people around these data centers, I mean, the amount of electricity and EMFs, I mean, I ask patients for 16 years, do you live near power lines? Because EMF sensitive people, we talked about EMF earlier, turning your YFI off at night can help your health. This is enough electricity to fuel cities, just one data center. Oh my God. Some of these are one data centers enough electricity at EMFs to fuel small states and there's no sign of stopping. Oh gosh, and they can build anywhere. They're seeking to build anywhere. So for the health of our planet and our health, at least I'm not anti-AI. AI ethicists talk about slow AI and reflective, intentionally use for ourselves because the cognitive offloading that we do, we're letting AI to think for ourselves. That's not good. There's studies that show that people that use these AI chatbots, even for 15 minutes, decrease brain function by 55%. People are like losing discernment. They're losing critical thinking skills.

1:22:59They are becoming mentally weak because they have lack of discernment because they're offloading too much on AI. But then, yeah, beyond that, it is the larger what are we doing for our health being surrounded by this EMFs all the time. It's, yeah, we have to, so going back, sorry, slow AI. It's just saying, hey, can we just pause as humanity on a micro level? How are we using this tool? Are we letting it think for ourselves? Are we impacting our life in a bad way or a positive way? And then, societally, slow AI is saying, let's look at what this is doing because maybe we should pause it until we figure things out. Yeah, it's so crazy because I was in a bubble about AI because I was talking to all these AI experts, most of us, Sully Mon, Mo Go Dad, all these pro AI people. And all I could see was like the efficiency, the productivity, entrepreneurs can compete more than ever,

1:24:00right? And lately, when I've posted stuff about AI, there's so much hate in the comments. People are so angry because data centers are being built in their towns and cities. And for some of us, we're not impacted by that yet, so we don't realize that there's such an environmental problem and also so much hate being built up because people don't want AI in their cities. Well, it's easy whenever it's not in our backyard, right? But when it's in our backyard, then you care. Yeah. Because this thing that's free, which I also think is interesting, nothing in America is free. Why are these most powerful things free? We're all contributing to the training of it towards the singularity. I mean, it's wild when you think about it. We are just being served the way that it's being shoved down our throats and we're just like, give us more the AI slop. It is, we need to have some critical thinking here. Yeah, it's always easy whenever you're just like, wow, this is so great. But with that data centers in your backyard,

1:25:00how great do you think it is now? Yeah, not so great. Yeah. Well, well, this was such an awesome conversation. Again, my show with two questions that I ask all of my guests. What is one actionable thing our young and profitors can do today to become more profitable tomorrow? Wow. I would say two things, you said? One actual one. One actual one. I'm horrible at rapid fire. I have the worst person you want to have on for a rapid fire. I ruin every rapid fire. I would say, this is what I would do. Do the best you can. I said it earlier, but I will say it again. All this information that we talked about, be curious, do the best you can, and give the rest to God. What I mean by that is just saying, stressing what this stuff is good for your health. But I want people to at least pick one thing. And then the thing is lean in from there. You don't have to do all the things because people can get paralysis of analysis and then think, I'm just going to give up. So I would say that's more head space

1:26:01that is really important because for you to be the most profitable, productive, amazing version of yourself, you need to do something different, to see something different. And if you don't have your mental health or physical health or spiritual health, what do you have? You're going to burn out sooner or later. So this is like the engine for you to have sustainability in your career is dealing with this vessel that you have in this lifetime that you have. I love that. And what would you say your secret to profiting in life and this can go beyond business? Which we didn't even talk about business too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say my relationship with God and nature, I think is powerful. I call nature God art. I think that's God art. God art. Yeah. That's beautiful. It's just like getting out. And the research shows that Shin Rinyoku, the research out of Japan in South Korea, is using nature as a meditation and medicine. It shifts your gut brain access. It tells your cells it's safe. Even if you think about it, birds, birds, birds chirp, birdsong happens when birds feel safe.

1:27:05And there's something somatic on a cellular level that tells your cells it's safe as well. So I think that's a non-negotiable for me is I use nature as an act of worship and just like, wow, what a beautiful planet we are. And it gives me sort of divine downloads from God to say this is the next right step for you. And I think in our hustle culture to slow down and pause. And this isn't woo woo stuff. This is physiological. This is being explored in the scientific literature of how nature can recalibrate. And again, to bring it back to the cells, it's the cellular symphony of safety when you kind of connect to that. And it's also back to the EMF conversation running the great ways to just spell EMFs. Because guess what? EMFs aren't even inherently bad. EMFs, there's God made. EMFs, non-polarized EMFs, or the science around grounding, like an earth thing. Like touch grass, literally. Put your feet in grass. It actually recalibrates and synchronizes

1:28:05that cellular clock that we talked about earlier instead of being stressed by all this man-made EMF, you have some nature-made EMFs. So that's a non-negotiable. God art. God art, baby. And where can everybody learn more about you and everything that you do? Thank you for the opportunity. Everything's at drwilco.com, dr-w-i-l-l-c-o-l-e.com, telehealth clinic, information's there, tons of free resources, heal yourselves is there, my podcast, The Aretha Beanwell, which I would love to have you on it. Oh yeah. Anytime. The Aretha Beanwell comes out twice a week. So yeah. An amazing Instagram channel with almost 900,000 followers, crushing it. At Dr. Wilco on, go to old IG. And I'm back on TikTok. Your boy was banned for a minute. I came back in a different form. We'll put all his social links and his book links and all that in the show notes. Thank you so much. Dr. Wilco, thank you so much for joining us on Young and Profiting Podcast. Yeah, fam. This conversation with Dr. Wilco made something really clear. You can look healthy as ever on the outside

1:29:07while your cells and organs are aging faster underneath it all. Your body is always communicating with you. Fatigue, brain fog, poor sleep, and burnout are not things that you should ignore. Their check engine lights telling you that something needs your attention. And healing is not only about finding the perfect diet or the perfect supplement. Dr. Wil explained that your cells can enter a threat state because of toxins, chronic stress, unresolved trauma, and a demanding lifestyle. Your body feels all of it. That's such an important lesson for any high achiever because your business may run on strategy, but your body runs on cells. And if your cells are exhausted or stuck in survival mode, your focus and energy will eventually suffer. My biggest takeaway in this conversation is more is not always better. More hustle can backfire, more exercise can backfire, more medication is not always the answer, more data, and technology can actually distract us and disconnect us from what our bodies are trying to say. Sometimes the most productive thing you can do is just slow down.

1:30:10Get enough sleep, unplug, give your body a real chance to recover. So don't wait until your body forces you to stop. Pay attention now, notice what is no longer loving your body back. Build your cellular credit score, as Dr. Wil said, and create a life that supports your health instead of draining it. If you love this conversation, make sure you check out Wil and his new book, Heal Your Cells, he co-authored it with Josh Axe. And because this was such a fun in-person conversation, if you're listening on audio, you can watch the full video on YouTube or Spotify. I highly recommend that you listen to our episodes more than once, because they're jam-packed with information. And this one certainly had a lot of information. So you may want to listen twice or watch, again, on YouTube or Spotify video. And before we close, I just wanna say thank you. We've got so many new fans and listeners these days. My Instagram and YouTube have been popping off. We went viral many times. We've got over 10 million views on Instagram alone last month. So there's so many more listeners who are now tuning in,

1:31:10and that's so exciting. And we've been dominating on audio for like six years now. I've been a top 10 entrepreneurship and business podcast on audio. But now we're finally cracking the code on video and social. So shout out to you guys for finding us. And I can't wait for you to listen, learn, and profit. I'm so grateful for your listenership, and I'll never take that for granted. This is your host, Hall of Taha, aka the podcast princess, signing off.