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For the next 30 minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will
travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official
police files.
From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, dragnet is the story of your police force
in action.
It was Tuesday, June 16th, who was warm in Los Angeles.
We were working the night, watch out a homicide division, missing persons detail.
My partner is Frank Smith, the boss is Chief of Detective Stadbrum, my name is Frank.
I was on my way back to the office and it was 11.59 pm when I got to room 24, missing
persons.
What was his mental condition when he left Los Angeles for, or did you last see him?
Was he driving his car?
What time was that?
Yes, ma'am, but what was the exact time?
I see.
And your address?
On the phone, please.
How can you think of anything you forgot to tell me?
Right.
Right.
Have you gave me that before?
What's your husband a drinking man, ma'am?
I see.
OK, Ms. Borg will make a check, call you back.
Yes, ma'am, we'll do our best, thanks.
Really?
Ma'am, but the name of Borg missing.
I'm sure glad my wife doesn't call for help every time I miss a meal.
Trouble with most guys is a lot of women keep tabs on them, checking everything they
do.
Let me see that nine seven week.
Yeah, there you go.
Everything is wife gave me.
When you get the jails and records, I'll check Georgia Street County Hospital in the
morning.
It looked like a routine investigation.
Lots of things can keep a man from getting home, few drinks, sick friend, unexpected business
conference, a flat tire on an isolated road, maybe just bored him, left there are other
things that can keep a man from getting home.
It had to be checked out.
Henry Borg, 51, male, white American, addressed 1571 East Burrindo Street and failed to return
home at the usual time on Monday.
His wife called one of the many work with and found that he hadn't been at work all day
that day.
He still hadn't come home the next afternoon.
She called us.
I checked the guy got filed, so if he was one of our regular customers, mental case or
alcoholics, it wasn't.
Frank and I checked the jails, the hospitals in the morgue.
They had no record of him there, no John Doe's fitting in his description, and Borg had
no criminal record.
We could assume that he was at least alive.
Frank called Mrs. Borg back, told her not to worry and asked her to call us immediately
if she heard from her husband.
When was the 310 pm, still no word of Henry Borg, the day watch had made another check
of the jails, the hospitals in the morgue.
Mrs. Borg called three times, the day watch officer's notes described her as very upset.
I called her back and asked her to come in the next day to file a missing person's report.
I asked her all sort of bringing the best picture she had of her husband, 30, 240 pm.
Mrs. Borg was waiting with Frank when I got to work.
She'd already filled out the form 316.
She was holding an aging peak in his dog in her arms.
Joe?
Mrs. Borg.
How are you, ma'am?
My partner, Joe Friday, ma'am.
Hello, officer Friday.
I talked to Mr. Smith and filled out the paper.
Who's that picture you wanted?
Oh, yes.
Thank you very much, ma'am.
It's a good likeness.
Mrs. Borg, I see here that you haven't put anything down under personal habits for your husband.
Well, I don't understand.
Well, as you husband, drink it all, ma'am.
Henry?
No.
It takes the glass of beer with his supper when he comes home, but he's not going to prison with call of drinking person.
Gamble?
Gamble?
Yes, ma'am.
Card's dice hortes.
Oh, I should say not.
He never does nothing like that.
You've never done him to gamble at all, ma'am.
Henry?
Or should say not.
Borg, you say here that your husband has no relevance.
Only brother, Ed.
Older brother, but I didn't put him down.
We don't know where he lives.
Haven't heard a word about him nine, ten years.
What about your family?
Your husband's family with your family?
My family hasn't spoke to me since today.
I married Henry Borg.
Mrs. Borg, I see only I have one friend listed to how Bishop.
That's the man your husband rode to work with, isn't it?
Yes.
Do you know Mr. Bishop's address?
No, I don't.
Did your husband ride to work with Bishop every day?
You say he left his car at home Monday.
Did he ever drive it to work?
Well, he usually drove our car.
But then he ride with Mr. Bishop pretty often too.
I didn't think anything about it.
Didn't seem like anything.
Well, did your husband spend much time with his Bishop?
It would just work.
Henry, would you like to spend his free time with me?
All right, now ma'am, please don't get upset here.
Did your husband have any financial problems?
That's what we're worrying about.
Financial difficulties?
Like buildings?
No, Henry always took care of it.
Do you think it might have been anything you didn't know
about that was worrying him?
Officer, if Henry was worried about anything
I'd have known, he'd have told me for sure.
Now, what about your home, the only?
What do you mean?
Mr. Amorky, John, I mean.
Yeah?
Do you have the pink slip on your car?
No, no.
Was it possible that your husband was behind in the payments?
No.
No, he would have told me.
Or did the old money down where he worked?
No, not that I know of.
Was job maybe?
Was he worried about that?
It's just neither.
That's his boss, but he always said
that Henry would have a job as long as he
was in the contracting business.
Henry makes good wages.
What you say here is mental condition was good.
Has that ever been poor?
Have you ever known your husband the black-out?
How do you mean black-out?
Well, as he ever suffered from laps of memory
is there any history of epilepsy in this family?
History of epilepsy?
Oh, no, not Henry.
Are he the healthy man he hasn't had a sick day?
I miss Borg, have you and your husband
been getting along lately?
What do you mean by a thing like that, officer?
Do you think Henry and I had a fight?
That's why he left, is that what you think?
No, man, we don't think anything here,
but these are the things we have to check out.
Well, it's the waste of time.
Don't you think I'd have already told you that?
If Henry and I had a fight, I'd have told you,
first off, it's the first thing I've said.
Something's happened to my husband, Officer.
I just know it's something's happened to him.
Did you and your husband go out together much, man?
Well, one night last month we went to the coconut grove,
then in bastard hotel.
And we used to go out the movie's pretty regular.
Was he in the habit of leaving the house at night alone?
No.
Just when he went out with Francine.
Francine?
Yes, our peeking is here.
3.55 p.m., Thursday, June 18.
Began to look as if Henry Borg was in trouble.
From what we've been told, he wasn't a man who had just
suddenly decided to leave home.
We had to find out if the facts we've been given were active.
3.40 p.m., we contacted Borg's friend,
Hal Bishop, just as he was leaving the construction job,
where they both worked.
He said he hadn't gone by Borg's house
to pick him up Monday, because Borg hadn't asked him to.
The way they worked it, Borg always told him
the day before if he wanted to ride.
At first, Bishop said he hadn't noticed
anything strange about Borg recently.
Then he decided Borg had been a little irritable
the last few days.
Said it wasn't like him to be irritable.
He's never known Borg to miss work before.
They never heard of any trouble between Borg and his wife.
He said that Borg didn't talk much about his wife.
We called on the neighbors of the Borg.
They said nothing to indicate any flaws in Mrs. Borg's story.
Henry and Martha Borg were average people
in an average neighborhood.
He went to work every morning at 7 a.m.,
came home at 5 p.m., the neighbors didn't know much about him.
It was a quiet thing.
They lived in the same house for 13 years.
Martha Borg was 47, maybe 48.
They never had visitors.
After 13 years in the same neighborhood,
she apparently had no close friends.
Two of her neighbors had noticed that in the past year,
Martha Borg would leave her house three or four times
a week at 11 a.m., always at 11 a.m.
She invariably got back before her husband did.
The neighbors said she usually brought some shopping
home with it.
They did block frequently in the evenings.
However, there were no reports of family trouble
between Martha and Henry Borg.
Third, each 6.20 p.m., we talked to Adolf Wernicke,
whose grocery store was on the corner
a half a block from the Borg home.
They'd been trading with him ever since they moved
to the neighborhood.
I don't know what to tell you about it.
Borg always seemed like nice fellow to me.
He didn't say much for nice.
She was funny and disappearing like that.
You got any idea if you had any trouble with his wife?
No, that wife.
She's a funny one.
Different from Mr. Borg this day and night.
Well, how's that?
I don't know.
Hi, Hacks, sort of.
She's all right, I guess.
Kind of show off, though.
Kind of person who dresses up when she goes shopping
around the corner likes to buy fancy groceries.
Stuff I never get calls for.
Michael's anchors is up there in the show.
Now, I'll bet you I won't sell two cans of them in the year.
But Mrs. Borg comes in and she'll buy them.
Mr. Borg, you don't like that kind of stuff at all.
It told me so himself.
Yes, sir, but how'd they get along?
You ever say anything about his wife?
I'm telling you the truth, officer, I don't know.
Far as a man, his wife argument, I don't pry.
Hurts business.
Comes think of it.
It said one thing.
It was a long time ago, about two, three months ago,
many more.
But what was that?
What did he say?
Well, he came in here just by like this time it was.
Didn't buy anything, just kind of hung around him.
I remember he seemed down to sorts.
I asked him to just feel him all right.
Said he was, just by like he had to get away from the house.
Now, that'll happen to him, man.
Just feel like you've got to get away for a while.
You know what I mean, officer?
No, sir, I'm not married.
Thursday, 7.50 p.m., Borg's description
and the circumstances of his disappearance
have been broadcast to all units.
Still no word.
4.10 p.m., Friday, June 19th.
We checked Borg's union.
He hadn't reported for a new job.
We filed an all points bulletin.
8.5 p.m., I checked back into the office.
Mrs. Borg was waiting.
Sergeant, Friday, I'd like to know just what's going on around here.
My husband has been missing almost a week.
And I don't see why something hasn't been done about it.
If you can't find my husband, then why don't they put more men on this case?
This is a terrible thing.
I'm a woman alone on the police.
I'm done with single things.
My husband may be dead.
He may be dead and nobody's doing anything about it.
When my work is here every day, but you can't get mad.
It's against regulations and you can't blame a meter.
They're in trouble, so you let them talk.
You try to explain.
They don't listen, but you try.
Well, we're doing all we can, man.
They're always talking these days about giving policemen more money.
It seems to me there are certain policemen who aren't even earning the money they get right now.
Yes, ma'am.
What are you doing for my husband?
Mrs. Borg, here's the file on it.
Now, we've made regular checks on the hospitals, the jails, and the mortgage.
Thursday night, when you came in to file at Form 316,
we had a complete description of your husband broadcast all radio units in the city.
It was teletype to every police division.
Today, we sent out an all-point bulletin over the state wire.
Every police department sheriff's office in a highway patrol unit in the state knows that your husband is missing.
Here, you can see the bulletin right here, ma'am.
Not in these cases, ma'am.
We start with nothing.
We don't know where they've gone, or why they've gone.
Most of them turn up by themselves, some of them don't.
We do everything we can to find the ones who don't.
Mrs. Borg, there are 4,000 police officers in this city looking for your husband.
8.57 pm.
When we thought Mrs. Borg was feeling better, we sent her home.
We reminded her again to notify us immediately if she heard from her husband.
9.10 pm.
The desk at Central called and told us that they'd picked up a John Doe
from what they said he apparently was suffering from amnesia.
While I went down to homicide to check out some reports,
Frank went over to Central and see the man they picked up.
9.16 pm.
Frank came back to the office.
Go.
Yeah.
Just checked out that John Doe at Central.
Anything on him?
Yeah, it's Henry Borg.
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aliased John Doe.
They found him wandering around in the 900 block down on South Spring Street, the financial district.
Wasn't much reason for anybody to be loiting around there at that time of night.
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The officers investigated, when they questioned the suspect, he would not or could not reply.
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In his pocket, the officer's five-eight cents.
A key ring and several keys.
No cigarettes, no matches.
It was dressed in a good quality-wisted suit.
Very rumpum.
No tie, no hat.
Garmin and Merritt rolled his prints at the City Hall and sent them
to Lake Prince for classification.
During this time, no one let him know that we had any idea who he was.
The two officers had picked him up, stood by.
Frank and I walked over to where he was sitting.
Do you know who you are?
Feel sick?
Been drinking, maybe?
Did you have a rough night?
Look, if you can talk, Mr. and I think you better make things
a lot simpler here.
We're trying to help you.
How about telling us who you are?
Maybe there's something wrong with you, Mr. but we don't think so.
We want to know who you are.
I want you to tell us.
If you don't, the only thing we can do is let him book it City Jail
as a John Doe.
That's a lot.
I look at me trying to hide something.
If you wanted, we're going to know it in a few minutes anyhow.
If you want to wait, we'll wait it out with you.
You want to stake your amnesia case, is that it?
Well, maybe you got a good reason, but it won't work.
I've been in this department a long time.
I've seen a lot of phony amnesia cases.
I've only seen one real one and he didn't act like you.
Do you want to know what I think?
I think you're pulling a phony.
Come on, how about it, Mr.
I got it.
Missing persons, Franny.
All right.
Yeah.
You bet.
Thanks, Franny.
Right.
That was late in Prince, Mr.
They got your fingerprints classified.
Now, we know you're not wanted for anything.
But we know you're not a bum.
Your clothes are good and you look like a guy who takes good care of himself.
Man like you doesn't walk around without a walk.
What happened to you?
I don't tell us about it.
Maybe we can help you.
I want you to tell us who you are.
You probably got a wife.
She must be mighty worried about you right now.
All right.
Fuck him.
I lost my wallet.
How?
I don't know.
Where?
I don't know where I've been.
You listen to me, Mr.
We want to know who you are.
We want to know where you've been.
We want to know right now.
I don't know who I am.
Let me see your hand.
What?
Your hand.
Come on, hold him up.
I'm going to tell you something about yourself, Mr.
You work for a living, don't you?
Hard work.
With your hands.
Like a mason, maybe.
Yeah, maybe you're a mason or a hot carrier.
You could be a painter.
Some kind of construction work I'd say.
Something like a plaster, for instance, huh?
You couldn't be a plaster by any chance.
Could you, Mr.
I don't know.
Okay.
You ready to talk to us now, Henry?
I wasn't trying to fool you.
I was only trying to fool myself.
You know, we've been looking for you since Tuesday, Borg.
The wife's pretty worried.
I'm not going back.
No matter what you do, I'm not going back.
We're not going to make you go back.
That's up to you, Borg.
All I pay as far as Mr.
is to find you to make sure you're okay.
None of our business has to go back.
I'm not going back.
All right, now look.
You're pretty upset, Borg.
Why don't you tell us about it?
It's crazy.
It's crazy what I did.
It doesn't make any sense.
You fell as you wouldn't be interested in.
Maybe I'll just go if it's all right with you.
I'll just go.
Yeah, it's all right.
It's okay if you want to.
Look, we're going to be around here another hour.
We haven't got much to do.
Our work's all cleaned up.
We're just by ready to go home.
Why don't you stick around and talk to us, huh?
We kind of like to hear what happened.
Yeah.
Just might help to clear things up in your mind if you talk about it.
All right.
It's crazy.
I know it's crazy, but I guess I do want to tell somebody about it.
How about a cigarette?
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Yeah.
I think I can be a match.
I am a man 50 years old.
I work hard.
I learned my trade as a boy of 16.
I've been at it ever since.
My wife and me, we got a new car.
We got our own home.
Almost paid for.
Man, my age, when he gets home nights, he wants to take it easy.
Read the paper.
Watch the television.
What a $400 TV.
21-inch screen.
Now, you want to know what happens when I get home?
She wants to go out.
Don't make any difference how tired I am.
It don't make any difference if I've been working hard all day.
She wants to go out.
Do you know what that's like?
Well, it doesn't sound like a reason to leave home.
I don't mind it once in a while if it was just once in a while,
but she's after me every minute I'm home.
Here for the last few years, it's been every night.
I don't know what's come over her.
She didn't used to be like that.
Martha used to be a sensible woman.
Now, she acts silly like a young girl.
She's different.
Goes in for fancy clothes, all kinds of fancy food,
even anchovies, and I don't like anchovies.
Last month, I swear she even made me take her down
to the Ambassador Hotel.
Imagine me at the Ambassador Hotel.
All I ever hear from her is we've just got a few years left
to have our fling.
I don't want any fling.
I'm a plasterer that's hard work.
I get home, I want to rest.
It isn't like I care if she goes out.
She goes to the movies almost every day.
Of course, before noon, she tells me,
before the prices go up.
I don't care about the money I wanted to have a good time
to close the things like that.
I don't care.
I love my wife.
I guess you think I'm crazy after what I did,
but I love my wife.
I say so.
And that dog, that fancy,
what kind of a name is that for that dog?
You know, to hear her talk to it like it was a person.
How long you had the dog board?
Yeah, I don't know.
Two, three years.
Well, the reason I had it seems funny.
Just decided to leave home last Monday.
Dog's been around two or three years.
The Ambassador thing was last month, he said.
Well, did it?
It was the lessons.
The dancing lessons.
But there's this social club up around Pico and Figaro
or people go there to dance.
People are age, she says.
Only I can't dance.
When she gets this idea, I gotta take dancing lessons.
Did you ever hear of anything like that?
I'm at my age, she's gotta take dancing lessons.
That's where you left.
That was Sunday afternoon when she got this idea.
She kept picking at me all afternoon and really got me.
I thought about it all night.
I couldn't sleep.
Monday morning, I just didn't go to work.
I got drunk instead.
Got sick too.
I just couldn't think of anything else to do.
I guess you know the rest.
I lost my tie, my wallet, lost my hat too.
And they picked me up.
I was just kind of wandering around when they picked me up.
It seems like a shame when a man can't even go home.
You sure you don't want to go home now bored?
Maybe if you talk things over with your wife.
No, no, it wouldn't do any good.
Nothing I could say to her would do any good.
I can't go home.
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It's almost like hearing somebody tell about me, remember Joe?
Yeah.
You hit something like this.
Had it.
With me, it was canaster though.
I hate cards waste of time.
I sure thought it was the end for me and say, remember Joe?
But it wasn't.
No, for a while, I heard sure it looked like I was gonna lose my happy home.
Guess I would have too, but I talked turkey to her.
You know what I mean, Bord?
No.
What do you mean?
Talk turkey to him.
Make him understand.
You let a woman push you around, Bord, you're dead.
Man.
Martha.
Look, they're all the same.
I sat a right down on the sofa and I said, I look for you.
And I told her what this guy was.
She took a pill.
It's the only way to do it.
You try what I say, Bord.
You'll see I'm right.
I can just see Martha if I ever try to put my foot in.
That's what I thought.
I was all set to give it up.
Moving with Joe here, right Joe?
Yeah.
And I figured I might as well at least get a load off my chest.
Once I got started, I lost my temper.
You know, it's a funny thing.
Face always thought more of me since then.
You ask her.
She'll tell you so herself.
She says she respects a man who'll stand up for his own rights.
Right, Joe?
Yeah.
I don't know.
With me, I don't think it's Bord.
Sure I can.
A Bord you listen to me.
You tell her you're working, man.
Tell her when you get through work, you want to take it easy.
And nobody's going to run you.
Set her straight, Bord.
Get tough of your half, too.
She won't give you any trouble after that.
Hi.
Just don't know, Martha.
Don't do any harm to try it.
I'd like to see Martha's face just once if I even told her to shut up.
I wouldn't want her to have anything handy to throw.
Bord, look, it's 12-10.
We've got to be getting home now.
You take my advice.
You go home, too.
Have a talk with her.
See if you can't work it out.
No.
No such thing.
Thanks a lot.
I can't go home.
Well, I told you it's none of our business, but I think you ought to try it.
Well, here.
Well, look, you're going to need a car, fair.
Here's a dollar.
You can take this and go on home.
That'll get you there.
Huh?
Okay.
You'll get this back, Sergeant.
I'll pay it back, too.
I have it.
I guess maybe you'll write.
You can't hurt anything to try it with this stuff.
Thank you a lot.
I didn't mean to put your father's out this way.
Good luck to you, Bord.
You'll see it'll work.
Maybe it'll work.
Well.
But I don't know.
Mark it.
I'll get out of the cancellations, Joe.
I should wrap it up.
Yeah.
The time you say it was?
It's 12.10.
Yeah.
Would you like to make a phone call first?
This time, and I have one.
What's the matter?
I just remembered I told Fayette Collar.
Friday, July 28, a month to pass, since Henry Borg had left our office to go home.
We heard nothing further from him or his wife, and we assumed that they had reconciled their problems.
6.10 PM.
Officer?
Oh, hello there, Borg.
Nice to see you again, I Borg.
I was afraid maybe you fellas wouldn't remember me.
It's been a while.
I tried to get out and see you before this.
Well, fine.
How are things going?
Did it work out like I said?
I brought you something, Sergeant.
Some cigarettes for both of you.
I'd like you to have them.
I hope it's the right brand.
Well, yes, sir.
That's the right brand, alright?
But you don't owe us anything.
I want you to have them.
That's alright, sir.
You keep them.
Alright.
Well, anyway, here's that dollar.
The one you loaned me.
Okay, Borg, thanks very much.
I sure owe you fellas a lot, and I really mean it.
My wife and I, we sure appreciate what you fellas did for us.
Was that clock right?
Yes, sir.
Oh, oh.
Got a rush.
Got an appointment.
Be later if I don't hurry.
Appointment?
Yeah.
Got to get over to Arthur Murray.
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