Duthie on Matthews' injury response, player safety perspective and Draisaitl out for the regular season

We got JD in here. James Duffy wearing green, which is nice. Yeah, I was gonna put a green

Toon by thought that was a little yeah, I was gonna wear a green. I was telling Dave. I was doing stuff in the green screen studio

So there was one rule

In that's what are you filming an Avengers movie or no? I was doing a sports center thing

Oh every once in a while we really mixed it up over there right and the one rule is you can't wear green

Obviously the greens. Yeah, I've only been in there one time. We did a soccer game in that very time

I've ever been in there very cool stuff. Right. Yeah, very cool stuff

We're talking about this dry saddle injury done for the rest of the regular season. Do you find the wording?

To be a little bit too specific like it didn't say back for game one of the playoffs

Yeah, it's a guarantee returns. Do you think they're not doing that because they don't even know for sure if they're even gonna make it?

Yeah, I think that's just the safest way to announce it. Okay, you don't know you're in yet

You don't know exactly. There's no way that you can determine today

That he's one of the playoffs not like April 17th. Yeah, I bet that there's no way you can say

Oh, yeah, he's not good. He's not gonna be good on April whatever 13th the last game of the year

But he'll be good on April 17th or whatever it is. So I think that's just the safest way to

To cover all your bases and scary though

Scary right there. They're on thin ice anyway. We are it is not impossible look the habs are probably gonna make it

But not guaranteed it is a possibility. I don't know all the percentage sites that you could go over like if the habs

Don't make it auto will probably make it, but it's not

Guarantee right and if we went we the collective country went over seven Wow, you know what the mathematical odds of that even

Happening oh man, especially with the hopes before the season of the the jets

Belief, you know the habs and the stends up and coming the you know Edmonton two straight finals

Vancouver we didn't think was we didn't they were if you to make the playoffs maybe but they weren't gonna be horrible and look at

Yeah, five teams five Canadian teams made it last year. Yeah, and

Edmonton I feel pretty good about them getting in I think the habs would get in like they're a resilient team. They score a lot

You know, I think Marty Sinler, we've done a good job there, but they've got teams on their heels

You mentioned Ottawa who could be the only team that gets in if Montreal comes out, but Columbus is one of the coolest stories in the sport right now

And they are red hot and they're on the heels of Boston Detroit Montreal

So there is a chance like Detroit jumps into the third spot in the division the habs drop into a wildcard spot and just Columbus

Yeah leaves them in the habs Ottawa Edmonton everyone else miss it

I mean that would be incredibly depressing. I can't picture that happening

But it is within reason which speaks to just how crazy the whole season's been for all these Canadian teams

I mean the probabilities are pretty good for Edmonton. They're at 80% on money puck

Montreal's right around 79 so what's Ottawa?

Ottawa was at 56. What's Toronto at

Close, but I mean he's had an interesting theory Duffy about how 14 games here for McDavid to kind of say hey

Guess what? I got to be speaking of Avengers movies. I got to be a superhero again and

He's moving the line. It was like plus 1100 for McDavid as hard trophy winner and he started talking, but now it's plus 850

Because it's a pretty good narrative if he could with dryside a lot and he if he could get him in right with the golden

He's bad as it is with all the talk about that they're lack of depth. I mean what do you think of that narrative?

That that definitely could be like in in a year where the race is so close

That could be a tiebreaker type thing, right? So the last thing he would probably want is to have this on his shoulders

But they did a good I did they do have center depth like the Dickinson acquisitions that helps them there

But obviously none of them are dryside but I would think you're probably right if he if he ends up winning the art Ross

And they get in the playoffs now and he's significant down the stretch that probably that probably tilted his way

Yeah, because it was the other way when dryside a one

Remember McDavid was hurt and he he was so good and dragged them there when Sid got hurt and Gino was so great

Now can one is hard. I could see it being the case here

With McDavid so um we got the game tonight on tsn4 he thinks shafery gets hard votes

I don't mean that's where I was going like where where is he going to be in all this I think he deserves to be in

Like I don't think he deserves to be first

But he deserves to be like top five. I haven't looked like kutra off's in there to

Celebrity if they get in the cannons the favorite

But like like he deserves to get what what are they both five? I they I haven't had yeah you know for five

So I he deserves to be that fifth I think I'm sure there's somebody I'm missing that probably deserves votes

It's from fan of this screaming at right now, but I don't know how you cannot look at that guy

Who you know Patrick while I was talking

The other day about it he started on the third pair at the beginning of the season and now he's like

The definition of a stud the most ice time on the team like 24 minutes runs the power play does everything and is going to do it for the next

15 years

It's insane

We were we're running a board in our pregame tonight about

It what 18-year-old defenseman have done no 18-year-old defenseman has ever done this Bobby or had 13 goals in this 18-year-old year

I'll be it you know 20 less games or something, but

It's insanity. Yeah, and it's fantastic to watch and it just reminds you of what one

Winning a lottery how how it can just change everything for franchise the islanders were you know

Patrick while gave them some sort of

Status there, but they're just kind of mulling around right one of those teams that was just getting in or just missing

And now everything completely changes with one guy

So I want to ask you about this thug farm strong story

For those of you not familiar he he's been he was the GM of the national team obviously at the Olympic Games. They won silver

um

He had a contract that expired after the Olympics. I didn't realize they signed contracts with hockey canada obviously they do

and

Hockey canada issued a statement saying that dug and formed them

He would be focusing on his position with the st. Louis blues although he's segueing

Away from being the GM in st. Louis

Uh, and will no longer be the head of this program

I kind of get the impression when I read that it's kind of a

You know, I'm out, but also we're okay with you leaving kind of situation because if you don't win

You're probably not coming back and they made a unique scenario to put him in that position

If you consider when the NHLers arrived in 98 and 98 it was Bobby Clark

Who's running the operation in 0 2 and 0 6 it was gratsky in 10 and 14 it was iserman

Those were all-time great players who played for the national team and then Armstrong who came in who was simply an executive

You know, I'm not downplaying his contributions or his resume, but he's not a player not the Hall of Fame as a player

I think they revert back to the gratskies the islamans the Clarks. So who would that be

well, I

I wonder if in for like Chris prongers a name that is out there a lot

You know what pronger want to do it he would fit that mold like he's done it all and he's won everything and he's been at the top of it

He's I think it's important to have a guy who can

Who can speak to the country everyone knows who he is. I think Sid could very well still be playing in four years

But if he retired that's the guy right now. Would he be the gym right away? Would he want that right away?

Would he want to understudy under somebody for one Olympic gratsky played 98 no two. He was the guy

Why can't Sid do that? They could say retires in two years. No, I mean, I think he would be perfect for it

And he'd put great people around him and everything. Let's sign him up for 28

No, what when are we going back 30? I still like to see him play

And he could be at the World Cup in two years. I think it'll be the World Cup for sure

I'm not sure about the Olympics in four years though. I wouldn't put it by him

I mean the guys and just ridiculous this this year's been in a revelation of what he can do at that age four years is going to be pushing it to

To be at that level and that's the way the pace of the game they're playing right now

But if there's anybody that can do it. He'll he'll just figure out a way to be

Contribute on the third or fourth line or something like that, right? Yeah, I think you're right

I think he'll probably play but he would be the guy

But it's interesting how you look at that team from that executive team though

From this Olympics and it and it's there are no all-time great players right it's it was dunked

Doug Armstrong and all his assistants Julian Breeze Bois Jim Nill Don Sweeney Kyle Dubus

But maybe they're not a play actually not a great ex-player among but maybe there wasn't one wanting to do it now

And Doug had been around for a long time. I don't know. He's been part since

What he's 2010? He was step like I know

One of the hugging shots. I think it's Gretzky hugging in 2010 after they win his hugging Doug Armstrong up at the ball

He was an assistant then so he's been with the program forever

But yeah, maybe they're just like I don't know a stack it. Maybe you yeah, there's one. There's one. Yeah. Again, it's

It's nerve-wracking because it's more work on your plate

If you if you lose an overtime, it's like well, why'd you do that? You know, you lose

He loses an overtime where you played great and you win silver and people like right you're out

That's not gonna work for us. Yeah, but it can't go like huge amounts of pressure

But it can't go worse than I went for Gretzky, you know, six, right? Yeah, but he had oh two that he could always say hey

We got I got that one first. That was a big one when a Gretz we're when a Gretz retire

Yes, there was he even there there was a little bit of a gap though

There was like a two-year kind of thing there like if Sid let's say

If Sid retired, he'll just be barely retired and take over that job, which I don't know knowing Sid

You might think he might want to

I don't know if he'd want to grab it by the reins right away because you're kind of taking a bit of a risk and not you've never done this before right right so

That'd be fascinating. You know, he's the nation would demand it though. He strikes me as the guy like of all the x players that

Sort of is so analytical lives the game to the point where this is all he really cares. We did do what he can do with the next five Olympics

Yeah, like he'd be the guy you'd pick right like he's you know, yeah universally respected

Never been a question about his work ethic or or his intellect on you know on and off the ice. So yeah

He'd be a shoe in for sure. I would think they're probably gonna try to get someone to do it in 28 and then in 30 like with the World Cup coming in 28

But you know, we'll see

James Duffy in studio George peros speaking down at the GM meetings and man peros is

Anyone that's got this job like whoever's the head of the department of player safety

Is constantly got a target on his back like I just I think sometimes we lose sight of that collectively the hockey world

Like hate this hate this revisit redo it

You're not going to be happy with the next person either because there's a chance they go completely the other like over the top suspensions

I don't want to live in a world like that like I in a weird way. I guess I'm gonna stand on an island here and

Somehow throw a bone to George peros. I don't think he's perfect. I think there's way too many inconsistencies

But I don't want a scenario where every play is a 10 game suspension 15 games 20 games

That's not a world. I want to live in well. I think you know, where David was talking about the other day about this system being flawed

Like the whole thing is not really about the guy doing it

And you know, you can criticize him and justifiably in certain cases for decisions

But it's all about the whole PA thing and these appeals and the fact that the PA never wants long suspensions and there's never wanted long suspensions and so

That it's the whole system at play that has to be changed. It doesn't matter who the guy is at the top of this thing

I mean it matters maybe in a small way, but you're right. It's the most bankless job out there and

He look I've criticized some of his decisions too. He's actually a fantastic guy away from like if you want to have a beer with a guy

He's incredibly bright

And Princeton dude who is a fighter funny is heck

This I got stories from him in my book because he's a hilarious storyteller

But you can I don't think you can win at that gig again

That's not I'm not trying to say because he's a good guy. You shouldn't criticism

I thought this math used the suspension for goodness was too short as well

But I just make this this system

I thought McDavid said it quite well that they we really have to look at the entire thing and the PA the PA has to somehow get on board with not just

Fighting for the guys to have shorter suspensions all but the yeah, I look

I mean this goes back to mario Lemieux and the garage league stuff

You know this goes back be way before this generation

And the bottom line is the PA represents both characters

They represent the perpetrator and the victim in these scenarios, right?

So they to your point. He's there with you. They don't want long suspensions because they it takes money out of the pocket of the player and into the

Emergency fund and be guess what

Neither does the league if Gary Bettman thought George Parris was doing a bad job. George Parris wouldn't have the job

Okay, so like when you when I saw George Parris stand up in front of the microphone today

That was he was oozing confidence like he's like

Yeah, we'd be happy to improve if there's a need for it big if

Yeah, you know, like exactly like we got everything covered here like he said

Will we'd be willing to evolve if we need to like they don't think they need to well

I also think that they probably look at the league today especially

You know the elder statesman of the league who have who played in the 60s 70s 80s 90s or were watching the game recovering the game

Or working for the league at that point

Realized it's incredibly soft now. There's not that much that happens

The goodest knee was a bad knee any era that's a bad knee and there should be retribution and there should absolutely be a suspension that comes with that

There isn't crazy stuff happening in the game anymore

There's not lying brawl and sticks swinging. No, they mostly take it out the predatory head

It's not it's nothing happens anymore. So what do you really that concerned about like I take more umbridge with like

The inconsistencies of golden interference. It's not George Parris's job

Right like that's something I'd like them to have more clarity on how the hell did you determine that was golden interference

But the next night the same play isn't that's frustrating to me

But there are there isn't enough infraction in the league in sport now that's embarrassing for the brand

The other thing is the ones that stick out now obviously are the ones where

In the Matthews case though the players out for the year and

I don't know what would have been would have been different if the least were in the middle of a playoff race right now

What would they've looked at it differently?

What I'm saying is that players out for the year and everybody goes well

How can go to only get five games when this players out for the year

But the problem with the eye for an eye thing, which is what I think fans want in general if you're to take a poll majority

Is that then there's there's certain hits where a guy just absolutely again doesn't happen very often anymore

Will devastate a guy terrible hit and the guy's not hurt and then you go okay

Well, you only it's game or two it doesn't it doesn't makes well

The outcome doesn't always fit the crime. You know what they also don't want

Is McDavid to knee-rad co-gooters and goodness is done for the year

So McDavid you're done for the exactly like that gets lost

That's easy to look at goodness and say forget that guy get them out

At times superstars do stupid stuff you want them out for 25 games because of fourth line players injured

I don't think so. Yeah, I think I don't think you want that point

And I want to I want to wear players are saying other than the players obviously when it's your team involved

You want the guy suspended for longer of course Matthews, but the rest of the players in the league I

Be interested to see like a player poll on whether they think suspensions are too short or too long

Maybe we can fire that up. No, yeah, but why don't you get on that? I'll get on that

I'll get on that right age player pool. I'm doing this survey 400 bite tomorrow. I'll make the calls. I'm on it

All right JD will catch on the panel tonight looking forward to having you

This is I think a first time a first time ever. I always like the unique panel combinations

I don't think we've had a haze noodles

Pounder ever never never on the panel now. This is television history

Absolutely like the tiniest smallest bit of history that no one will ever remember but television history nonetheless

Looking forward to it. I'm coming for that belt man

I'm gonna mock that thing up too. It's gonna be a disaster

Calling his comment for that. It was filthy. Like I used to see you saw that last week. I saw it and I

Don't appreciate the act today. It was absolutely

It wasn't me. It was discussed. I'll fire something up tonight. Don't you worry. There's James stuff here

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