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The NFL Combine is officially in the books.

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There is a ton of traction in the Dynasty streets.

We're going to go over it all here today on the Dynasty Stock Market on Player Profiler.

What is going on folks?

Pete Nova here with Player Profiler.

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How you doing, man?

Hey Pete, thanks for having me on, man.

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Hey, so I guess to kind of break the ice here to start the show.

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Even if it's not a big project.

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What are you up to right now this point in the year?

Yeah, so we were we were hitting the news desk really hard with all the news projected cuts coming up.

Combine news.

Any any off season news that we're doing.

I'm also doing a doing some work with the prospect profile guide

over at Cassie Sports Advice Network.

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Hey man, wait.

New league new league here starts next week.

Like that's that's going to be something for all of us to start diving into.

We're already starting to see rumors.

So yeah, I think that's going to speed everything up for us.

Yeah, I mean, you know, there's been there's been some trades already.

We'll get into some of that.

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And yeah, super excited to roll out today.

Some recent news that did kind of affect some fantasy stuff.

I guess the Rams did trade their later first round pick.

I think it was 29 to the cheese for Trent McDuffie.

They also gave up some extra capital.

I believe it was a third next year and maybe two other later picks and think of fourth or fifth.

I'm not totally sure on those.

We've also heard some rumors about some free agents and where they might go.

We obviously had the diva Montgomery trade.

We're going to talk about him today.

And there's just a lot going on.

We're just at the, the, you know, the, the, the water is bubbling.

And we're kind of getting to the point where it's about to kind of pop.

So we're excited for it.

And yeah, let's just roll into the show.

If you're familiar right, we go over the top players that are traded in the past seven days.

The top five guys right now are David Montgomery Malik Willis.

Woody Marx, RJ Harvey and Brian Thomas Jr.

We've talked about RJ Harvey.

We've talked about Brian Thomas Jr. Malik Willis and Woody Marx.

So we're going to put those guys to the side.

But RJ Harvey is probably going to be an interesting guy that we will come back to if he's still heavily traded in the next week or two.

Because I expect Denver to land a free agent and add to that room.

Woody Marx will get into him a little bit today because obviously David Montgomery is his new running mate now.

Malik Willis. So there's a lot to talk about.

But the five guys we all are going to talk about today will be David Montgomery.

I'm James Gattaboo, Jalen Waddle, Sequon Barkley and Nico Collins.

Let's kick off the first player that we're going to talk about.

And it's going to be David Montgomery.

New running back for the Houston Texans.

David Montgomery is the number one traded player right now in the dynasty streets.

He's been traded 420 times.

It's almost 100 more times than the next most traded player, which would be Malik Willis.

He's the number one running back, number one player 420 times.

And it's not a surprise, right?

This guy just got moved to the Houston Texans.

Some people are selling. Some people are buying, right?

You know, there's always a buyer. There's always a seller.

And there's always different reasoning as to why.

But this one's pretty obvious.

Some people are a little bit nervous about Houston that offense aligns a little shaky.

And other people are buying in and saying, well, he's going to be a huge feature in that offense.

He's going to get a heavy volume, heavy workload and should give you a nice floor.

Maybe a low end RB2 floor for him, which with Detroit, it was kind of his his opportunity share was kind of eating

itself with Jameer Gibbs there.

But Dave Montgomery, 27.8 years of age, sorry, 28.7 years of age.

So he'll turn 29 this year, Iowa State running back.

He was a third round pick, ninth overall in the third round in 2019.

And he's coming off of his lowest rushing attempts in his career.

158, you know, 158 rushing attempts despite missing no time.

Now he did deal with that injury the year prior, which feel like he hasn't really been the same since he came back a little bit early from that injury.

But Dave Montgomery, eight touchdowns, 19th and fantasy points per opportunity.

It was also 19th in yards per touch.

And, you know, fantasy points per opportunity is pretty much fantasy points divided by carries plus targets.

What are your thoughts on this landing spot thing?

I mean, we're going to get a little bit deeper into some of his numbers.

But are you a fan of the landing spot?

We'll get to the nitty gritty if you're buyer seller of him.

But what are your thoughts initially of this landing spot for Dave Montgomery?

Initially, like, I love the landing spot.

I think Houston was an obvious destination for running back, whether it was going through the draft to deal with that need or going out and getting a veteran.

Like this, I think Detroit got a great return for a player like this.

But Monti got what he wanted to obviously Houston, they, they to mix and was just something else this season.

We didn't know if, if it was a foot injury, if he lost his foot, Cicero was very kept us in the dark about that.

So I like Dave Montgomery's role.

I think what he marks isn't a running back that is great in between the tackles.

He was kind of renowned to be the best past, past catching running back in last year's draft.

So I think he will slide into more of that role.

And David Montgomery can be this grinder and get the, get the carries that he really wanted and why he wanted to get out of Detroit.

Yeah, and what he marks, look, he kind of slots into what his role should have been overall, which is a change of pace guy, you know, a guy that can catch the football.

And becomes more of a, of a, of a satellite back, I would think.

And, you know, he was kind of pushed into a role last year where he was really forced to, you know, be more of what they were expecting out of him, right?

I mean, Joe Mixin, you know, never shows up really with the injury.

And then they had the kind of panic sign Nick Chubb.

And, you know, it's kind of, I just don't really feel like they were exactly prepared for that.

With Montgomery, though, route participation up this year, he went from 15.1% to 24.6% route participation, which is good.

I mean, he can catch the football. I mean, you know, watch him.

I think there's two types of guys that can catch the football in, in at the running back position.

There's guys that just have good hands that can get up field quickly and be explosive.

And then there's other guys that are just dependable, you know, they, they can pass block and leak out very well.

And just, you know, they'll get you, they're not going to give you a big, you know, big pop run after the catch.

But they're going to get the tough yards and just get forward.

And Montgomery kind of fits more of that build.

So we'll see, you know, how that progresses here.

And if he still has some of that route participation now that he's kind of with Woody Marx.

But Jumar Gibbs was a better receiving back than Woody.

So I don't think it should be that big of a deterrent, which depends on how the Texans view him.

Texans though, they ranked 13th in rushing attempts last year, 29th in rush EPA, though.

So I don't have to sit here and tell you that they just were not getting enough of what they needed out of this position.

And so it's pretty obvious that they were going to add.

It was just a matter of who would be through the draft, would it be a cheap free agent.

They overpay a little bit for David Montgomery.

And honestly, that should tell you two things.

One, their thoughts on this free, this rookie class, as well as, you know,

their thoughts on David Montgomery.

And they must think he's got some left in the tank.

And I love David Montgomery.

He's one of my favorite running backs in the NFL.

You know, I mean, I don't know if he still has it like he did about a year and a half ago.

But truly a really, really fun player to watch.

But with his startup ADP right now, he's running back 35, pick 149 off the board.

He's going in round 13.

You know, when you look at some of the guys going around Montgomery, I think it's a, I think it's a decent spot for him.

I think that's pretty fair.

You could get maybe one, maybe two more years left of like low end RB two value.

So he's just a depth piece on most dynasties rosters.

But he goes in front of Jacobi Croskey Merritt, Kenneth Gainwell, Jonathan Brooks,

Braille and Allen, Tyrone Tracy, JK Dobbins.

I think for me, and let me know what your thoughts are here.

But I would be comfortable taking a swing on Jonathan Brooks over Montgomery.

You know, if, you know, I think that should be flipped.

I'm fine with him being ahead of Jacobi Croskey Merritt.

I'm not a big JCM fan.

Kenneth Gainwell, I probably would have Gainwell ahead of Montgomery as well.

I think he's going to get a solid landing spot or, or, or, or he's going to get a contract,

maybe a three year deal possibly, maybe go back to the Steelers.

But I would have Gainwell Brooks Montgomery and then Croskey Merritt behind those guys.

Would you have it that way as well?

I kind of like the way it's sitting on this ADP.

I think you see JCM, the commanders, they had a down year, so they have a high draft pick.

They might go in and use that capital and get it running back in the draft of Jeremiah Love Falls there.

Can Gainwell again, landing spot dependent, like, was, was he more of a,

a production by scheme with the Steelers?

Don't know where he's going to land, what's going to happen?

Jonathan Brooks, the injuries are such a concern.

They have Chuba Hubbard there.

I just think that I would mitigate risk.

If I'm a team that's contending, I'm going to go and get David Montgomery for my, for depth,

because I know what I'm going to get, regardless of the old line in Houston,

regardless of how CJ Stroud plays, David Montgomery is going to be consistent.

And if I'm a contender, I don't want those question marks.

Yeah, I think that sums it up pretty well.

I think if you're a contender, I think, look, if you, even if you're somebody that's contending for me,

I would be willing to take the risk on Brooks.

If you're running back room is not very good.

If you're telling me, hey, I have an elite RB1, like, let's just say,

Jamir Gibbs or, you know, or Bijan or maybe a tear down, you have JT.

I don't want to say I'm on Hampton because he's not necessarily a elite yet for production wise,

but just from an asset standpoint, he's, you know, he's a cornerstone piece.

But if you have guys that are going to give you a decent amount of points above average at the RB1 spot,

then I'm okay, you know, taking David Montgomery and being a little bit safer,

because, you know, you know, you're getting a floor player, you know,

you're going to get, you know, 12 points a game, right?

Like a guy with a consistent role.

But if you don't have that and you have, you know, kind of a low end RB1 and maybe a high end RB2,

I think I would prefer Jonathan Brooks over Montgomery just to give you that chance

of giving you a little bit more upside.

So it would just be a little bit more line of dependent.

And then of course, look, if your rebuilder Brooks makes more sense to take a chance on then Montgomery,

but you might just sit here and say, I'll just ship off Monty, you know,

for a mid to high second round pick and just take a re-roll on one of these rookies in this class as well.

Yeah, I think that's great going into into a rebuild look like that.

It's definitely I'll take the lottery ticket on Jonathan Brooks.

I think we're not overly confident in the middle of the second in this 26 draft.

So yeah, I would definitely go someone like Brooks.

I think Monty is somebody that if I'm not a contending team right middling,

you know, if you're going to be realistic, he's probably somebody I'm going to try and ship out,

whether it's for 2026 draft capital or future to move on with that.

Yeah, I think that's fair.

We do have a question. The chat will grab that as always guys.

If you guys do have questions, we will make sure to answer them as we're going along here and it's from mafia.

I guess it's I don't even know. I guess mafia and XXX hero.

He said thoughts on Xavier worthy completely off topic.

You know, I talked about this on a show last night with Xavier worthy.

There were tall, you know, the, you know, I was speaking to Joe Carlton about it.

And, you know, Joe was saying, hey, this, this worthy is injury that he had that pretty much affected him possibly the entire year.

Does that play any effect on how you value him, how you see Xavier worthy?

Do you think that, you know, you have to put that into account?

And I think, yeah, I think look, there's some validity to that.

But I think ultimately I'm pretty off Xavier worthy.

I've never really been very in on him.

I just don't feel like he's developed into a group.

He's just hasn't developed that much in my opinion as a route runner.

He feels gadgety and that was nice to start when he, when he first got to the Andy read offense.

But it just hasn't developed and he's really been a big, deep play thread.

But for whatever reason him and my home just never got on target there.

It's been two years.

And we've seen a lot of overthrows that just misconnections.

So I'm really not a fan of Xavier worthy.

The market isn't either.

I mean, he's wide receiver 42.

And he's value between a, a 201 and a 202.

I think, I mean, I would take the pick there for Xavier worthy.

Some people might, you know, I might, might take worthy and, and try to send them off to like a, for like a Ricky Pearson and like give up.

If you have to, you know, add in like a third round pick, like that's a move I would make.

If somebody's still high on worthy, but ultimately the jury, the jury's out on him for, for many people.

And, and for me, I'm out on him.

What about you, Dan? Do you, do you have hope for worthy?

Do you think he can turn it around?

No, I kind of echo the same sentiment as you.

I think that something just isn't clicking in an Andy reads offense for Xavier worthy.

They have Rossi rice. And now they went and added another piece of draft capital where they can easily address the wider receiver needs and push him down.

So I'm kind of with you.

If market is sitting at an early second for, for Xavier worthy.

I'll, I'll take the re-roll.

I think he just kind of goes into a bucket of players that he's going to be, he's going to be flex worthy.

You know, spot start, anything like that.

Let's be player agnostic and take a re-roll.

Yeah, and I, I think sometimes we get super focused on some cost.

And we're just so concerned of like, man, I spent like a, a mid first round pick on Xavier worthy.

I could have, you know, people were pretty high on him last year.

Like, so you probably could have got close to that.

Maybe a little bit later, like maybe a one-oh-wait for him.

But, you know, now you can't.

And people are, sometimes people you sit there and say, man, maybe if I hold out for one year,

I can sell him if he has a spike.

But you have to have confidence that he's going to have that, right?

There's a possibility that this offense looks a little bit different with my homes coming off the ACL.

Is he ready for week one?

And even if he is ready for week one.

Is he creating time like he, we've seen him in the past, you know, to kind of open up, you know, plays in terms of that.

Like backyard football kind of structure for a guy like worthy to succeed, which we've seen a little bit of.

And I just don't, I just don't know, right?

So you're just going to be holding on to him and that asset could lose more and more value.

And the truth is, look, this Kansas City team just traded for another first round pick.

There is a very good possibility that they're going to add some skill player.

It's going to probably be either a running back or a wide receiver in the first round.

They have a lot of needs in my opinion, pass rush and offense align, you know, are two really big needs for them.

But I think they'll spend one of those picks on one of those positions.

And then, and then probably go wide receiver running back.

I don't think it's going to be running back unless it's love.

If it's not love, I don't think they go running back.

Maybe they, they fall in love with a guy at the 29 spot and take like a, I mean,

there were talks about your daring price.

You know, Daniel Jeremiah was saying he could squeak into the late first.

I don't know about the combine, how he measured with his weight.

If that, if that changes people's or teams opinions of him,

maybe a running back outside of love squeezes into that back of the first.

I don't know.

But the point is they're going to add some sort of talent to this room.

This wide receiver room is not going to stay the same.

And they also have to hedge.

Rashi Rises in a contract year.

And while he's not suspended, we have to keep in mind that there's a possibility he misses more time.

This is a guy that missed time due to an ACL.

Then he missed time due to a suspension.

And he's clearly showing us that, you know, he, you know, is a head case off the field.

And I don't think it's a guarantee that KC, you know, wants to invest, you know,

an extension with him, given the off the field stuff, unless it's at a severe discount.

And I don't necessarily think he's going to take that.

And there's probably a team that's willing to take the chance on him if KC won't.

So I think that pretty much ties my thoughts up on worthy and just that room in general.

Do you have any other thoughts before we move on here?

No, I agree with it all.

I think that you're right with with the added draft capital, they can easily go and and get somebody that is going to fit their scheme more than worthy.

Okay, cool.

We do have one more question and then we will go ahead and and and move over to the next player to James.

What's going on? James, he said, if you are somewhat contending pretty solid with the running back position.

Would you give a mid second to late third for Monty?

Is that pretty solid? Yeah, I mean, I kind of I kind of outlined it a little bit.

I think, you know, if he's your RB three, I'm good with it.

If he's your RB two, I might want to swing a little bit higher and try to try to upgrade and spend a little bit more.

I'd rather maybe make that mid second.

Do you have a late first that maybe you can give up for, you know, a higher and running back?

Maybe like a Josh Jacobs, right?

Who is losing value due to the age and I know people aren't as high on him right now.

If you're contending, maybe you maybe make a chance maybe make a move for a guy like Jacobs.

You know, who I think is definitely a little bit as a stronger a stronger player fantasy wise for the rest of the way in his career.

Then probably what Monty has left at this point.

What are your thoughts?

Yeah, I really like that. I think if you can go up and get to a higher tier right now when some of these aging vets aren't producing points where maybe their value is a little bit suppressed.

I'm going to try and do that.

If you want to go the road of buying David Montgomery as well once points scoring season comes around.

I don't see how you're not going to be able to recover this value if you look at your team and you're kind of a bubble.

If you go in and trade for a 27 second and just get David Montgomery off your team, I think that's fine too.

I think that that is kind of a minimal minimal risk trade right now.

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Let's go ahead and move over to the next player here.

And when we talk about hot rumours, guys that are...

I mean, man, there is a...

The sentiment around this guy is very, very all over the place right now.

And it's Cam Skataboo, right?

Cam Skataboo running back for the New York Giants.

I mean, look, when there's smoke, there's fire, right?

And there's reports this week that came out.

And the reports prior this week that the Giants have been heavily interested in Jeremiah Love.

Now, many people will say, hey, you know, they're trying to get a team to push up

and trade up, maybe, and maybe, you know, they can trade back off the pick.

But when you all start factoring that now we're hearing that they're going to be in play for a running back,

I mean, Benjamin Albright just tweeted out earlier today that he really thinks Kenneth Walker is going to land with the New York Giants.

That changes the formula here.

I don't necessarily think that it's a matter of talent with Cam Skataboo.

We've seen him, you know, we saw our transit to the NFL in a 10 game sample size last year.

But look, the ankle dislocation and just the way that this guy plays, it's a recipe for disaster when it comes to keeping yourself upright and healthy.

And so you can look at a half, the glass half full or half empty, right?

You could say, hey, they're going to keep him more fresh, which is going to be a nice one to punch if they bring in a guy that's more of a change of pace.

Maybe don't spend heavily at the position or you can look at and say, this is a disaster because he's going to now have to compete with somebody that they're going to put a heavily investment in.

And this is a guy that was only a fourth round pick.

So we have to keep that in mind.

It's a new coaching staff with John Harball and they did not draft, right?

They did not draft Cam Skataboo and ultimately John Harball is pulling the strings.

There was a reason why he took so long to sign his deal with the Giants was because he pretty much said that he wanted to have the final say and his boss and his direct guy was going to be the mora's and the ownership, not Joe Shane, right?

So we know it's Harball's ultimate decision on everything at this point going forward.

So Shane's really kind of in the cup chair in a way because he's pretty much saying, thank you for continuing to pay me.

Thank you for allowing me to keep this job and I will take the bullets for you and I will go out there and pretty much make the moves based off of what you want me to do.

So Cam Skataboo, 24 years old out of Arizona State, I guess at fourth round pick last year, third overall picking the fourth round dislocated ankle.

But when he was on the field, this guy was really good. He's been traded 291 times the second most traded running back right now in dynasty six most traded player at the moment.

And if I could be honest with you, this is really not the time in my opinion to really buy running backs as much.

I think when you get draft capital, you like to target some of these veterans that have younger guys in their land in their room now and people get excited about the younger player and it gives us the veterans out of discount.

But if you can get a discount, if you like a guy and you like the price, I'm fine going and trading for it, but you'll notice, I mean, the top players right now that are being traded are running back.

People are hot and bothered moving pieces at this position.

When we talk about Cam, though, Dan, he had, you know, he was RB eight in in a point fantasy points for game with 16.

Now, keep in mind, it's a smaller sample size. He played eight games, not 10.

But five of his eight games, he had 90 plus total yards, you know, all purpose.

And three of his eight games, he had six targets. So he showed us that he can translate from the college to the pros as a receiving back, which was something I wasn't necessarily afraid of.

It was really more the breakaway speed, how high was the ceiling and how would NFL teams really feel about him review him at the next level, given he had such good production in college.

But you just never know with guys with his kind of profile, you know, what teams will think of him.

And clearly, the giants felt enough to take him forth overall and give him a real good shot, you know, week one last year.

But seems like the sentiment and the vibe is kind of changing around Cam's statibu at the moment.

Yeah, like, like you said, he's a day three running back, right?

Whatever aura that he carries, he and Jackson Dart kind of rejuvenated that giants fan base, like scatibu is here for a good time, not a long time.

The way that he seeks out contact, rather than avoiding it, is it just makes him a volatile NFL player and a volatile fantasy asset for us. And, and you're right, like when they're smoke, there's fire.

Harbaugh is pulling the strings.

I just think that that there is potential for Cam scatibu to get supplanted. I think maybe this isn't just, they're worried about the timeline of his recovery.

I think it's just Harbaugh is going to come in with a plan. And maybe he doesn't see that scatibu is fit for that. He can be a change of pace back and work in a rotation.

But ultimately, I think something big is going to happen with the giants here.

Yeah, it feels that way. And notably, right, you have Matt naggy as the OC, you have ladel bets, former running back for the redskins and saints.

He was a former running back at Iowa as well.

Giants, like we said, they're rumored as a smoke is a fire.

Cam scatibu RB 15 in startup ADP right now, pick 59 round five.

You start to kind of look at the guys going around scatibu and you say to yourself, man, do I really have them at RB 15, right?

Is he ahead of Kenneth Walker? There's a possibility that these two guys are in the same room in a month in a couple of weeks, right?

I mean, that's very possible. You have kind of Williams who's in a phenomenal phenomenal system.

Blake warms eating it to a little bit of his work. Nobody did just get an extension.

I know there's it's it's one side of the other a kind of either love them or you hate them and don't think he's very good.

And then you have a couple other guys behind you have Javante of RJ Harvey of Josh Jacobs.

At this point, I think the guys that are behind him right now, I would probably take, I would probably say I would take every single guy behind him up to Javante and Travis ETN.

When you get to Derek Henry, it depends on your build. Javante just reups with the cowboys. He's in a great situation.

He's you know, he's going to cast a football. He looked really, really good last year. He's close in age to Camp Scataboo.

RJ Harvey's kind of the guy I can totally be up one way or the other on him, you know, they're going to definitely bring in competition there as well.

But I think with Harvey, we also know he's going to have a solidified pass catching role in this offense and a red zone threat.

I mean, they utilized him in the red zone with a lot of special plays.

Sean Payton also has been very good to running backs to guys usually in his offense.

We'd love for one guy to just be feasting, but it's always really split into two.

Josh Jacobs is obviously up there in age.

So I would be okay with maybe flipping Jacobs for Scataboo to a contender if you're if you're in a more of a rebuild structure.

But like you said, Camp Scataboo here for a good time, not a long time. You can say the same thing about Harvey, I guess, because of his age is 25.

But Harvey's been able to stay healthy and his style of play is not really the same as Scataboo.

So am I crazy? Am I overreacting here to say that Scataboo should be probably closer to RB 22 at this point.

RB 15, is there any guys behind him there that you'd say, no, I would definitely take Scataboo ahead of or where's the sentiment for you at this point?

I'm pretty much in agreeance with everything. I think RJ Harvey, it depends between those two.

What as a as a down and dynasty manager, like, where can I get the plus? That's that's a running back. I'm taking I think when you see Javonte Williams, you see Josh Jacobs, you see Kyron, they have security.

Kyron Williams got his extension last year. Javonte Williams had a resurgence, got paid. Josh Jacobs, there's nobody behind him.

Like Marsha on Lloyd wants to be a thing, but he's probably never going to be a thing because he can't stay healthy.

I just think that these are players that I would feel very comfortable as contenders. Are you even a middling team that I can go and ship out that I would have ahead of Camp Scataboo?

Yeah, I think the line for me gets cut off right around Manungai and Deandre Swift.

Like, I would definitely take Seattle Manungai and Swift. You can maybe sell me on Jalen Warren, but to be honest, they're offensive still a mess.

We don't know if Rogers is coming back. I do like Jalen Warren in general. He did get reupped as well. Henry, I can understand people saying, yeah, look, Henry's very build dependent.

You might sit here and say, look, if I think that Harry Henry can give me RB1 upside, you know, top 10, RB1, at least one more time, and then maybe like a mid to low RB2, two more times after that, that might be worth it.

I mean, I look at Dynasty in two to three year windows pretty pretty much. And especially with the running back position, this landscape changes dramatically all the time.

I mean, injuries happen very quick. You guys get added to their rooms. It's different than a wide receiver where it's like, you might have an alpha in a room.

And sure, they might go draft the guy secondary next to him, but that might not, that might help him. That might not hurt him as much as it does help him.

Whereas with running back, it's like, it's only one guy back there, typically there's not many splitbacks, you know, or two backs on the field at the same time, like there is the wide receiver position.

But you can make the case that Henry should be ahead of them as well, you know, if you are a contender, we're talking, hey, Henry, if you can get Henry to maybe be your RB3 and you have two really good running backs and you're a contender, I would take that over camp

a schedule, if I'm truly, truly pushing for a championship, understanding that hey, Scott could look really good. He'd get healthy and it could blow up in your face. But I just don't know what the shelf life is for

scataboo, the way he's playing and his style and now we're already talking about a regime change, where look, there's a chance Joe Shane's not even there after this year.

year and Harbol and then it's a completely new for an office plus coaching staff and

Skataboo again a guy that wasn't a heavy investment where one of the first the first investments

that John Harbol could do in his tenure with the Giants is at the running back position

right which is not an indictment on Skataboo it's not about his ability but it's also just

like hey like that's that was like the one of them the most important things for him

and that says a lot about the availability of what they think of Skataboo for the future

and just just one thing to the room so I think that has to be weighed when you're looking at

the value for Skataboo. Absolutely it shows Harbol's flaws and it also speaks to a little bit of

Tyrone Tracy who has to catch a stray here too you know he was much improved there was always

fumble issues for him as a converted wide receiver but Harbol thinks that he's missing something in

that backfield. Yeah Tracy's a good Tracy's also a good point there you know I know a lot of people

felt like after last year Tracy kind of earned himself that orbit to roll and you know when

Skat went down it was Tracy and Singletair but it's not like Tracy had a strangle hold on the

roll a Singletair was eating into it as well now we know Singletair was a Brian Dable guy so

it's not that surprising but either way yeah I think I think I think I think I'm selling Skataboo

at this RB15 I think you are as well so we can put a bow on that and move over to the next

player, Albertson the chat, Bindleson the chat what's up fellas good to see you guys make sure you

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our next player that we're going to talk about is is Jalen Waddle and Jalen Waddle is a player that

I really I gotta be honest with you and sometimes you have a really strong opinion on guys sometimes

you have a really strong feeling Jalen Waddle is a guy that I I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of a fuzzy

on man like it's really hard to gauge and grasp what's this guy's value at this current point I

mean if you if you look at him right he's a first round pick sixth overall out of Alabama he's 27

years old and I mean he's got three years left on his contract he re-upped with Miami just before

they pretty much gutted the entire front office and coaching staff now this new regime is is

left with Jalen Waddle on a fresh deal he's gonna have some dead money on his deal if they decide

to move him like at the deadline or something like that but I don't think Waddle is going anywhere

unless it's a complete disaster year one and and so I think I think Waddle is staying in Miami

and then he poses the question it's got a defensive minded head coach right in Jeff Hathley

who is the quarterback two of tongue by low is a hundred percent now gone they've already made that

known that he will be caught is it Malik Willis it looks like Malik Willis is is destined for Arizona

but I think he's also probably going to take whoever is going to pony up the most money and I don't

think that's going to be Miami this is a wide receiver who wide receiver 24 in 2025 who is

wide receiver 25 in points per game wide receiver 24 in total fantasy points he's at a hundred

targets in every season besides 2024 so we know this is a guy that earns targets but he hasn't hit

15 points per game in you know since his first two years of his career in fantasy and it's really

kind of been a downward trajectory for him since that what are your thoughts on Jaylen Waddle at

this point is he a player that you still are holding out hope in or is it kind of a little bit

shakiness because the environment around it doesn't feel rock solid it is it's definite uncertainty

with Halfley as a new head coach they have Bobby slow because the OC we don't know who the quarterback

is you know it Malik Willis might end up being there's a dark horse because there's there's um

you know comfortability with him with Jeff Halfley from Green Bay like don't know how it how it's

going to go and I was kind of buying water last season because I thought that he was going to end

up getting moved I really thought they were going to get this whole roster and he was going to

go somewhere else but he always leaves you with what it what is he going to be from that rookie

season Tyree Kill came in and McGangleski skied everything to Hill and then after Hill kind of went

down to it just had an inability to make any type of throw um Jaylen Waddle seems now like when

you go and look at ADP like he's just in a glob of players where it's everything right it's a flex

play you don't feel confident if you're going to start two or even to start three wide receiver format

he's just not somebody that you know moves the needle like he's going to have to come out and have

a big season and I think he's always going to have the uncertainty tag left on him as a dynasty asset

yeah and I think that's that's really it's really kind of shitter good off the pot for a

Waddle right now I mean he's 27 years old uh so he's he's kind of he's kind of getting that peak

in a way where it's like how much better can he get and then you also factor in this is a guy

that's had issues staying on the field right he's she's struggled to stay healthy so

is that going to get better with age or is it going to get worse and so you know if Mike

McGangles there was a world where he was going to stay if that was the case and you know he was

going to get the pick of his quarterback and you know the things would look a little bit different

for Waddle but you know it's it's very uncertain I mean I I really truly don't know who the quarterback

for the dolphins is going to be if they don't land Malik Willis are they going to go take a chance

on Ty Simpson I can go get a rookie um they're they're going to pair like a Simpson with like uh

a curved cousins kind of player right is that the move that they would go if they don't land

on Malik Willis or do they go and they do they do they somehow land Kyler Murray I don't know if

there's I haven't seen any connections there you know with Kyler though I mean there's a connection

with the Rams right I mean you know Cliff Kingsbury is still there uh he or is now there too like

there's possibility he goes there and sits for a year I don't think that's what he's going to do

but it's possible um so there's a lot of question marks with Jaylen Waddle when we talk about

insulation sure he's insulated on his contract but he's not insulated in that the environment

around him is is is volatile right he might be absolutely not there but that might not be a good

thing he might be insulated but the insulation is not good insulation right this feels like

Terry McClure and Pre Jayden Daniels it's good that's a that's a good comp for it um I like that comp

and man I mean maybe they could trade him at the deadline uh if that's possible but like we said

the dead the dead cap it would still be a factor and uh unfortunately you know for Waddle it's

it's kind of been this way like they didn't want to trade him last year at the deadline they

kept it now this is a new regime so but but they obviously didn't get what they wanted last year

at least the regime and I can't imagine teams are gonna value him higher than they did last year

at the deadline this year unless his production spikes and he has a really good bounce back year

which maybe that happens but right now it's it's very volatile asset uh when we look at Jaylen Waddle

uh he's been traded 244 times uh wide receiver six in terms of trades and the 16th overall

traded player uh his startup ADP is wide receiver 26 uh startup ADP pick 81 in round

seven uh this is again super flex ADP and uh Waddle when you look at the guys going around and he

goes one spot or two spots behind about the Smith the one who was receiver spot behind about the

Smith he goes ahead of Michael Wilson Ricky Peersol Jordan Addison DK Metcalf Christian Watson

it's really kind of a a lot of guys that are question marks out inside of DK Metcalf I know

what I'm getting with DK and and I don't really do what when I'm getting out of DK at this point

anymore um but Michael Wilson is interesting Peersol you know if you told me that you could move off

of Jaylen Waddle and get Ricky Peersol and a plus like a second this year or a second in 2027

rebuild or not I would take that chance I'm a big believer in Ricky Peersol I think he fits well

with this offense he's got a connection with Brock Birdy when he's healthy it's really about

the health with him and can he can he bounce back and stay healthy but I would totally make that

move if if you wanted to tear off of Jaylen Waddle now you might sit there and say is anybody

gonna really give me much of a plus for Ricky Peersol I would be comfortable doing Ricky Peersol

for Waddle straight up because he's in a better environment he's been in a better situation

you know we know the quarterback's gonna be there we know the coach is gonna be there the

system's not changing he fits the system Waddle is just a big question mark right now um so I

would take Ricky Peersol over Waddle um I would Michael Wilson's kind of up and down I don't know yet

about Michael Wilson I'd like to probably wait to see what they do at quarterback before I was to

go buy Michael Wilson at this point Jordan Addison great player but knucklehead obviously off the field

he's got some issues DK Meccaff I I would rather Waddle over DK I'd rather Waddle over Christian

Watson who I do really like um any objections on any of those guys no it's not it's all it's all

uncertainty like to Ricky Peersol's point George cuddles out with that Achilles like this is it

now for Ricky Peersol I I think that he has the tools to be the wide receiver one for Brock

Party in that offense Jordan Addison we also don't know what they're doing as a quarterback like there's

uncertainty there we've heard rumors of speaking of Kyler just a minute ago right like we've heard

rumors that he might go to Minnesota DK is DK Christian Watson he's gaining steam he makes some

of those big electric plays that we saw with Aaron Rogers but Green Bay just kind of has a whole

glob of the same style of wide receiver so it's it's take your pick and do you want to play

roulette of which Green Bay backer wide receiver you're putting in your lineup I agree I think

for right now Peersol's the only question mark I have but I would rather have Waddle comfortably

because I know that the upside is there okay so you feel like Waddle at wide receiver 26 is pretty

pretty is priced accurately yeah I think so okay so would he be considered a hope for you at his

current price you know are you I mean I would probably think right now is not a good time to sell

him unless you're really concerned that they're gonna bring in a bad quarterback and his value is

gonna go lower is he probably a hold for you right now what would what would you need to to yet

back for Waddle to move him draft pick wise draft pick wise if I can go in and add a third to

Waddle and go and get the one oh six where I think we see that drop off like just as the ADP

shows I would go and move something like that if somebody offers me a late first or you know two

seconds in this draft I'm probably just holding Waddle and hoping that once he starts scoring points

or we hear some news that you can go and shift them off for something else yeah and I think the ADP

you know a lot of times we look at the market and what it says but most people are not going to

pay the market price they're probably going to pay a little less so you probably can't get the 106

for Waddle maybe you throw one a third but you have to be a two a guy that really really likes him

I would say Waddle is probably closer to like a 109 and and that 110 is probably your better bet

and at that point you're really taking a shot in the dark because there is a big drop off in this class

right I think after that 106 107 I have like Omar Cooper Casey conception and then Sadiq

behind those guys in non premium after Sadiq it's it's it's kind of a question mark right and so

I would rather probably take the proven asset and Waddle we know he's a good player it's just a

matter of you know can he be put in a situation to succeed I think Waddle right now is probably a

hold for me as well until we see you know what he gets you know hooked up with with the quarterback

if he gets a if he gets an upgrade at quarterback or I guess an upgrade sounds crazy but like

two it was pretty bad but if he gets a decent quarterback landing like let's just say Kurt

cousins goes there I'd be actually pretty happy if Kurt cousins went there for for Jalen Waddle

and I would be okay trading or selling Waddle if he were to get a nice bump up because Kurt

signed there um like I said I'm not really there's there's no guys clear cut behind him here

that I'm like super good with trading just one for one outside of I would take the chance on

Ricky pierce all I would make that trade Michael Wilson I love the talent I like what we saw but

still a question mark at the quarterback there too so you're trading uncertainty for uncertainty and

maybe rerolling for a younger player that stayed healthier in his career so far so I'm okay with that

if that's the rationale but he's probably a hold for me as well we do have a question in the chat

and I do want to grab that really quick from MJ here MJ said I understand Harvey didn't have

the best advanced metrics but why aren't people comparing him to having the same potential year to

jump like Chase Brown did with the bangles you know I think the the biggest thing with Harvey

and it is look Chase Brown never really got strong competition right so he was given the opportunity

to really work through the bumps and bruises and the benefit that Chase Brown had was he's played

with two alphas on the outsides that are lightning boxes up for him where he's able to have a

little bit more space to work right and also this is a team that's playing from behind a lot so they

throw the football which really helped out for a guy like Chase Brown who can catch the football

it really complimented his skill set so it kind of allowed Chase Brown to kind of come into his

own and allow him to work with the bumps and bruises that's not really the case for a lot of players

but what I would say is look RJ Harvey has second-round investment and second-round capital in him

people said that he that Sean Payton overpaid and reached on Harvey Sean Payton has a

weird way about him where he likes to prove people wrong I don't think he's giving up on RJ Harvey

I think it was always evident that they were going to bring in competition right it had nothing

to do with Harvey even if Harvey was really good it was just a matter of what was the level how

how much would they spend to bring in and when we talked about Harvey and Scataboo the difference is

I trust the offense in Sean Payton where we've seen so many targets go to the running back in

this offense and we've got an enough body of work to know that Harvey is going to be a pass catcher

and there's going to be a lot of passes to go around in this offense to the running back so there's

a lot of fantasy points there so I'm not giving up on Harvey keep that in mind I am a Broncos fan

for what it's worth I was actually a big Harvey fan coming out I I loved his tape and he just

happened to land with Denver which what maybe even more excited the biggest thing for Harvey though

is he's just struggles running in between the tackles now one thing I would say that it doesn't get

brought up enough is the offense aligned for Denver has been very good when it comes to pass protection

their run blocking is not bad but they've kind of shifted back and forth to different schemes where

one it was like an outside zone then it was power like Sean's kind of tried to change the scheme up

like two times now and the offense aligned just doesn't seem to really get much push you know in

the run game Quinn miners is phenomenal you know what it but then powers might be a cap casualty

garables and McLean she's solid but for some reason the rushing lanes don't seem great

dobbins did so well because he's a veteran and he saw the hole and he and he cut back right when

you think of zone scheme which is what Denver runs like you're kind of building a wall and then

the running back can kind of cut off back off that wall right it gives them more options right with

a more of a gap power scheme it's kind of just like here's the hole go get it go run through that hole

that's that's where you're going and then if you bounce outside you're really not taught to do that

but if nothing's there then that's when you bounce right so I know that's kind of a little bit off

topic there but I just think like with Harvey he's had trouble you know running you know in between

the tackles and college and it's we've seen the same in the pros here we've also seen guys take

the next step forward maybe the game slows down a little bit for him I wouldn't be surprised either

he's very talented it's not about talent with him I think really it's really about the mental

side of it with him yeah I agree with you you know why Chase Brown did have that bump was because

there was no competition Sean Peyton he wants to establish the run all the time JK Dawins was

successful in the run game because like you said he stayed in between the tackles too he was a

little bit more patience it was that veteran savvy play he that was the style of runner that he

was Harvey is more electric catch it bounce to the outside and that's too often for Sean Peyton I

think it and in today's NFL like you're just not going to have that that bell cow you know like to

go and find a junior Gibbs or be John Robinson all the time like you're not teams are not going to

be able to do that so you have to run it by a committee and I just think you've nailed it like

Sean Peyton is going to go and do that he's he's brought that up multiple times since coming to

Denver I think he's going to address that this offseason yeah and appreciate the comment MJ if

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if you're on the audio set we very much appreciate you guys as well let's go to move over to our

next player and it's going to want you to be Sae Kwan Barkley and I'm excited to talk about

Sae Kwan Barkley here another polarizing player right now you know RB 14 in 2025 this guy was a

first round pick in 2018 he's 29 years old he was a number two overall pick out of Penn State right

I don't need to sit here and tell you how good of a player and prospect Sae Kwan Barkley was

and is it's really a matter of is he still that guy and is the Eagles off that's aligned still

that off that's aligned like that's really the biggest question mark here with Sae Kwan Barkley

to me is the offense aligned in the scheme Barkley's been traded 239 times is RB 10 in terms of

total trades right now and he's a 70th most traded player overall in fantasy he was RB 14 in fantasy

points per game as well so it's about the fantasy points total 14 and points per game 14 as well

nine touchdowns which is actually down from the year prior where he had 15 in an electric season

we all know about that when they won the Super Bowl he had four more receptions actually this year

than the year prior he's ours precarious down 5.8 yards precarious the year before to 4.1 5.8

not sustainable and it just goes to show I mean he was electric but he was also like that

offensive line was phenomenal there's a lot to unpack here with him before we get into some of

that what are your thoughts on Sae Kwan you know do you think there is bounce back potential with

him do you think there is RB 1 upside firm still at 29 years old is he a player that in an asset

that you're trying to get out from under you know and unless you know even if you're a contender

you're looking to maybe tear down to maybe a Josh Jacobs usually a little bit younger maybe a

year younger but you might sit there and say I trust the offense a little bit more going forward

than then I got like Sae Kwan Barclay in his offense if I'm a true contender I'm not getting

all off to Sae Kwan Barclay like that it's an elite ceiling right like average 17 carries for

game last season we knew that the hangover was coming I think dynasty managers are smart enough

to know when you go and have 330 carries you play all that extra football you win a Superbowl like

the next year you're you're gonna be a tire football player you know there's tons of dysfunction

in Philadelphia with AJ Brown with the Jalen Hertz hate the constant you know musical chairs of

of OCs they dismissed the O line I think Sae Kwan Barclay is still going to give us one or two elite

seasons and I guess it depends on your risk tolerance what you want to do with an asset like this

but Sae Kwan Barclay is definitely somebody as a contender I'm holding on to yeah I think that's fair

something you said note as well you know Lane Johnson missed you know the final eight games of

the regular season Lane Dickerson battled a meniscus I mean we thought Lane Dickerson I mean

we thought Dickerson is it Lane Dickerson why am I saying Lane Dickerson I know it's Lane Johnson

I'm drawn to blank now yeah I don't know why I'm saying Lane Dickerson but Dickerson battled

a meniscus injury that he suffered in camp I mean we thought he tore his ACL and there was fears

you know in in training camp and then he continued to play you have cam Jergens with the back injury

I don't think Dickerson's ever going to be the same Jergens really really regressed you know he

was a pro roller which is which was kind of a joke around the Philly area because you know there

there he was one of the one of the worst centers and football this past year and obviously

misling Johnson now Johnson's coming back Jergens I think did some stem cell thing I think Dickerson's

doing the same as well from what I heard it's also important to note that they fired legendary

offense line coach Jeff Stoutlin due to some disagreements in their run game approach they did

higher Chris Cooper if you're not familiar with Cooper he's was the offense line coach in Minnesota

their offense line didn't play that great last year but I think it's important to also note that

they had like I think I read something like almost like 15 or 20 different online combinations last

year I mean they were banged up so I don't put that on Chris Cooper Cooper did learn under legendary

coach Mike Munchack so he was underneath him who I mean if you're off and though with Munchack I

mean he's he's one of the the better or bigger bigger names of the online coaches in the last

like 10 years and even before that he also played under Mike Shanahan so he played in that system in

Denver so I'm intrigued with what Philly's done a little bit I don't didn't love Stoutlin moving on

but I'm interested in the OC change with Manian and I'm interested to see Chris Cooper and how

that that fixes but look this this this offense is not going to go if this offense line doesn't get

things figured out so they really really got got to get this this whole line figured out for me to

feel more comfortable about about the team as a whole agreed and and I think when we saw that

banged up a line where they weren't the you know kind of the cream of the crock of what every

every single NFL organization wanted for an offensive line we had seen it say one Barclay in 2024

had 17 runs over 20 yards seven over 40 yards in 2025 you only had two runs over 20 and one over 40

so yeah that's a little bit on say one Barclay wearing the tread off the tires but

if your old line isn't going to make in holes like they were for him in 2024 it's pretty obvious

of why the decline in say one Barclay yeah and let's look at the raw numbers I mean if eight

tackles 72 he was 9th in the NFL you know he was still participating with his routes we talked

about we caught more passes this year than the year prior breakaway runs of 15 or more he had 13

which you know was 9th in the NFL obviously that explosive rating still not where it was the year

before but you kind of outlined as to why and and I don't think you know it's and look Sky it's

it was number 16 carers he had 280 opportunity share 80.3% and this is also coming off of a year

where he was I mean he taught touch of all a ton so I'm I'm a little bit nervous in in in you

know not him as the player I think look the fact that he actually did as well as he did I think

is remarkable given the circumstances right they're passing game was a trotious I mean it was terrible

they were they were begging Jalen hurts to throw the ball on them you know and this in this

passing game right defenses were cheating up and you know when you look at say one he had eight games

of 17 or more fantasy points last year eight spike weeks eight right those are eight weeks where

he you know didn't maybe single-handedly win you your week but was a very very massive you know

massive uh what do I say massive player massive peace to you winning your week um you know eight

eight or more eight games are 17 or more fantasy points right so that's big uh eagle 17

them russian PA last year um I think I'm with you I would honestly buy sake one Berkeley

I know I talked about the concerns I just think ultimately you know the floor is is probably like

rb-15 for him um you you know I think the offense line can't get much worse I think uh and I think

that the offense in general the passing attack should open and help things for them now if age

around leaves you might sit there and say does it help because that's a locker room cancer out and

they're not so focused on getting in the ball or does it hurt because now there's less weapons

I think ultimately the offense will open up the passing game which should help sake one Berkeley

he's a buy for me as well when we look at his startup ADP cost he's right now pick 56 round five

rb-14 in startup ADP um and I think that's a pretty fair price right he's going to have a camp

scatter booth I'm fine if I'm a contender I prefer Berkeley uh he's behind jugkins that's

totally fine I mean jugkins is a little bit concerning right because that offense line is gonna

is in for massive overhaul the coaching staff has changed I do think Dylan Samson's better than

people people are are factoring in he's gonna have a role as a pass catcher um I mean yes so uh

man I mean there's a world where this changes a little bit right um but I would say I if I'm

contending I prefer sake one over jugkins and you know maybe you can maybe if you're a contender

you could possibly tear off from jugkins if you're going but if you're gonna do that you'd have to

have to get a pick with sake one back and you have to truly truly know if you're a contender

it is a risk to move but we also have to factor in look jugkins I love them but there was a lot of

smash weeks for him last year a great matchups and he just did not produce like we had hoped

he's coming off the injury and again he's he's with the browns in a pretty sketchy environment

um so I mean look it's hard moving off of a young asset like this but if sake one Berkeley if you

think a sake one has top eight top five potential and I'm still you know to give you like one more

year or that that might be worth it compared to maybe jugkins who maybe if you're concerned maybe

you know his ceiling is like RV 12 RV 10 you know unless they get a massive change there at the

quarterback position and things go in the right direction in Cleveland so you make a couple of

different arguments it's it's I think Berkeley is is price pretty fair yeah I agree with that and

I think you can make an argument for you know Breeze Hall who's staying with the Jets you see this

lump of CMC Irving Chase Brown who I think's gonna have a big year interview on Henderson like

in season there might be people that that's a I don't care but I don't care about the age um

I'm gonna move off these guys right whatever their process may be I think you can argue that that

whole glum or glob of of six running backs is all interchangeable depending on your team

yeah I I made a trade towards the end of last season I traded sake one 80 Mitchell and a third

round pick and I got Kenneth Walker uh Michael Wilson and a second round pick I felt pretty good

about that those are the types of deals like you're gonna be making right like if you're

gonna get a move off of sake one you're trading into a contender right he's gonna have very specific

teams that he fits their builds and you can maybe tear off of sake one and go get you know maybe

if you're if you're confident that Kenneth Walker is gonna get a good landing spot you tear off

sake one to Walker and get maybe you know a high second or or a young player that you're you're

high on that maybe at a down year like if you're really a big Matthew golden fan I am not but maybe

maybe that's your shot to go get him right or maybe you tear off of sake one to Travis ETN and

and you get you know ETN's marked values even lower maybe you can grab like a late first round pick

and maybe kick in a third type of thing like those are possibilities as well yeah that's right I

think going back to your trade like you disguised a third an 80 Mitchell as valuable assets to that

owner obviously so I think that's a great move to go into something that and I like your tear

down suggestions here as well beautiful uh we're gonna take one more break and then we're going

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the last player we're gonna talk about is gonna be Nico Collins and Nico Collins has always been a

favorite of mine um you know he's been traded 237 times wide receiver nine uh 20th overall he's

26.9 years of age uh third ground pick uh 25th overall in 2021 out of Michigan he's wide

receiver eight and total points wide receiver nine and fantasy points per game I was actually kind

of surprised when I looked at what his his finish was this year I think it goes to show just how

weak the wide receiver position was last year because I love Nico Collins but it really did not

feel like Nico Collins was you know the the wide receiver nine and fantasy points for game and

eight and total points did it feel like that for you? No not at all it was definitely a player that

I was calling a sell earlier in the season like looking at his price tag that you know at the time

it was relatively close I think he was wide receiver 13 when I was saying this and it's you're

getting 12 point per game right now when you're going and looking on sleeper in a full PPR format like

is that not somebody who's still considered an elite asset but is not producing like that like your

return of investment isn't there so can you tear down some you like that I certainly wouldn't

have thought that Nico Collins was wide receiver nine on the year yeah kind of reminds you a little

zay flowers this year in a way where you know zay flowers ends up being a top 12 wide receiver

this year and it didn't feel that way they didn't like sure total points and the the fantasy points

were game it comes to that but at the end of the day that the spike weeks weren't there right so

for a guy like flowers it paid off better because his cost wasn't as high but I got like Nico where

you paid you know want to turn for you know it didn't always feel that way but the spikes were

there more for Nico than they were for zay flowers so that's the biggest thing I mean when we look

down the stretch here 23.5 point 16.1 21.5 in a three week stretch from week 13 to 15 he also had

you know one weekend between that we're at 8.5 and then before that 24.2 22.6 and we 10 we get 11

you know he I mean I guess you know when he when it really boils down to it I guess the

offense just kind of felt gross and and he really did produce more than it really felt I mean

I came away like sitting here and I was like man I really just can't believe that Nico had

as good of a year because it just didn't feel that way I think part of it had to do with you know

look I'm a big I'm a fan of Jayden Higgins I think he started to come on a little bit I think

people were very excited about Jaylen Noel as well and so people were kind of kept talking about

them getting more involved and and what does it mean and all these things and and I think it kind

of took away a little bit from Nico and I you know hands up like I love Nico but I just really didn't

think you know he he produced like he did but when we talk about Nico Collins this team last year

11th and past plays for per game 120 targets last year was the most of Nico's career and this

is a guy that doesn't need to be a volume monster he's got yards after catchability you know he

has the deep play ability he's extremely fast so I mean he doesn't need a ton of volume to to

make up he's also a big body player so he can be a red zone target and and and you know give you

you know enough points on the week on one play like that's the kind of player that he is 120 targets

I don't expect it to stay that way with all you know take del coming back you know the the

rookie receivers taking another step forward he's in a run first offense a defense of my

head coach a team that's probably not going to be chasing points every single game though they

did a little bit this year because Straub was just so bad at some stretches um what are your

thoughts on Nico I mean why do you see for 11 right now start up ADP pick 33 round three

you know for me I mean why do you see for 11 I'm kind of pushing off of him a little bit and

trying to tear down I just don't know that it's going to stay that way it's not because of a talent

thing it's just really about the situation and I don't think this is a team after watching

CJ Stad meltdown in the playoffs and the fact they just traded for a running back I think it

just goes to show they want to be a run first team protect the football play good defense and

and you know there's also more weapons around him yeah I agree I think that's a really

pricey tag of a wider C-over 11 like you said they went and got David Montgomery they traded

away more online I don't know what they're doing there when CJ Straub's already getting pressured on

30% of his drop-backs what more do you expect him to do Nico Collins with an 8 out of 12 in the

explosive plays they're not going to be there if CJ Straub who is a statue quarterback has to be

on the run every single play I just think situationally it makes Nico Collins an asset that I would

want to be able to move off of when I go on look and I see Chris O'Lauve Garrett Wilson and Mecca

Ebuca Lad McConkey they have good situations Chris O'Lauve looks great with Tyler Schrock and

Kellyn Moore Garrett Wilson yeah he's with the Jets but he's always produced for us and Mecca Ebuca

Mike Evans isn't back so that's going to open the door there I these are just players that I feel

a little bit more comfortable with than Nico Collins would you would you consider you know there's

a lot of hype around the bears wide receivers with specifically Luther Burton Rome is hasn't gotten

nearly the kind of hype it feels like people are again looking for the shiny new toy and they love

Burton if you want to tear down to one of those receivers Roma Dunesay is wide receiver 18 Luther

Burton is wide receiver 22 right now if you want to tear down let's just assume forget about the ad

that whatever you're going to get something added on let's just assume whatever it is it's going to

be the same which wide receiver today would you tear off of Nico for Roma Dunesay or Luther Burton

assuming you're getting a plus and it's the same I would rather throw it away Roma Dunesay

I think when Ben Johnson came in and he addresses needs or I identified his needs I guess it is

Luther Burton Colson Loveland I just think those are going to be the pieces moving forward

that Caleb Williams is most familiar with and is going to be success to the bears in years to come

okay yeah I prefer Rome over Luther Burton I'm okay you know with with anybody that has

a stance on Burton over Rome I think at the end of the day we're all kind of guessing in a way

and making us best of educated guesses that we can that we can have but I think that's that's not

a bad shot to take especially if it's Burton I mean I always said let's assume the capital is the

same but Burton I think I would probably look like can I get Nico and the 106 I'm sorry

get Burton and the 106 for Nico kind of thing and maybe you got to kick in like a third with Nico

because somebody's in love with Burton or same with Rome like those are are trades that I would

try to make tip ideally top five right if I get like the 105 and I get the pick of any you know

whichever receiver is left between Tyson Carnotate or you know or Mackay Lemon you know plus

Rome or Luther I would do that over Nico and say like a third now it's going to change you know

there's a possibility like Carnotate goes to the jets and and then he's not in the top five for me

or you know Mackay sorry Jordan Tyson goes to a bad spot like there's a this is a wide receiver

class where look Casey conception could find himself on like the newer the new and Patriots

and then he ends up going really into that big three or wide receivers and and kicks out one of

those guys that maybe doesn't get as good a landing spot but those are the types of deals I'd be

trying to make with Nico I'd be trying to tear off of him to get a top five pick and get a young

wide receiver or maybe a young running back right maybe maybe you don't tear off to a wide receiver

maybe you take Nico and you kind of tear off of him for you know if you're a contender maybe you go

like Nico for like Javante Williams and like the 105 kind of thing or the 104 maybe maybe a little

bit higher because of Javante's age but you know you're getting production from Javante you're buying

that production especially if you're a contender those are kinds of deals that I would consider

if if I was a Nico Collins owner is there anything else that you want to add about Nico Collins before

we wrap this thing up it's not an indictment on Nico Nico is the player I think the skill is there

we've seen it you know he had that break out and the community was overjoyed with with seeing a

player like that being a league dynasty asset but I grouped you like I think there are process

deals we made with that and that's how you're going to be able to build your rosters into sustainable

champions beautiful so to wrap this up and to just go back really quick

David Montgomery we've kind of both said he's he's kind of a buy I would prefer to probably buy

you know a little bit better of a player if I'm buying him I think you said you're comfortable if he's

kind of like an RB3 for you like Aaron Jones could be a cheaper asset that you go pick up and

he might find a better landing spot kind of thing though he can't stay on the field

I can't scatter but we both identified as a cell given while we both identified as a hold

I think we both agreed safe ones a buy maybe you said more of a hold I said more of a buy at

least on a harder stance there and then Nico Collins we both said it was a cell and that's not

because we are happy to say that that's just an unfortunate thing we do like Nico Collins it's just

the matter of the situation around him but that's going to do it for us guys thank you guys so much

gain before we get out of here just remind the folks where they can find you and what you're working

on again yeah guys you can catch me on x at ff underscore to mad dog currently I am doing work for

player profiler I was helping out with the rookie guide and going to be doing work with the draft

kit coming up in the off season I'm also doing a prospect profiles for fantasy sports advice

network so yeah that's that's what I've been keeping busy with right now beautiful day and we

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