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Welcome to Fantasy football today, Dynasty.

Dan is back.

It's been forever, Dan.

It's so good to have you here on the show.

Tell everybody what you've been up to with me on the box

for and everything else.

Yeah, so thank you for having me as always.

I've always loved being on the show heath.

And this is one of my first appearances on any FFT show.

It was Dynasty.

We did a little bit of their main.

And then the Dynasty right away.

So it's exciting to always be back here.

And beyond the box score is exciting right now.

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And we're going to have more guests on.

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redraft everything of that nature.

And look, fantasy in the end, it's always about the youth.

It's always about the rookies coming up.

And whether you play Dynasty, Redraft or Keeper,

they always impact the game.

So exciting times for beyond the box score and FFT.

I've already started scheduling some guests

for our position previews.

One, I'll give you those guys a sneak preview.

April 7th, Matt Waldman will be here.

For it was funny because I always,

I give him generally the first choice on date

and the first choice on position.

Sometimes though, I hope that he picks a certain position.

Yeah.

And thankfully, he picked Wide Receiver Part One,

which I think is the most exciting part of the rookie draft.

And so we will have him on for the Wide Receivers.

We will get the rest of our guests scheduled

in the next week or so.

We're going to get to the questions for Dan in just a moment.

This is, as always, Dan's Dynasty takes.

We'll talk a little bit about free agency,

a little bit about rookie prep.

I'm going to try to do something I've tried to do

in this show a lot of times.

Just make a trade with Dan

because we have a couple of teams that line up.

We've made two trades in our career, by the way.

Line up very well for trading.

We've got a couple of teams that kind of,

and it's funny because it's kind of the same players

in different directions.

So we'll see if we have anything we can come together on there.

But, you know, I have to tell you first.

You always like it when I rad out at a mazer, right?

It does, it does of a bear.

You know what in the woods.

Before we get to three questions for Dan,

I just want to tell you that one of the questions

Adam wanted me to ask that I would not ask,

because I'm not this kind of guy is,

is this show the high point of your March?

Is being on Dynasty the high point of my March?

Oh, is this some kind of joke

about the Badgers losing in March early?

He had five or 12 jokes like this.

The hurricanes didn't do much.

They won a game and then get crushed.

Right, I mean, I don't even know

if he was watching the hurricanes game.

Do you know about the debacle of Adam not watching

the American's Playoff of Ball Game look like it?

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's what he does.

It's what he does.

So three real questions.

And we haven't talked about the giants for so long.

And they've, there's been a little bit of news,

specifically about one of their Dynasties assets,

Cam Skataboo, who for some people was a borderline top 12

back for 2026 about a month ago.

And then we started getting reports

that are a little bit scary about Jeremiah Love.

You seem to have dismissed these.

I'm not sure if it's because you're wish casting

or because it's what you actually believe.

But to start things off,

should Dynasty managers have any concern

about Cam Skataboo getting replaced on Drafty?

100% they should.

If, look, there's a lot of smoke.

Sometimes the smoke is fire.

Sometimes the smoke is smoke.

When it comes to draft season,

we all know that by now I think if you're listening

to a show like this, with that said,

you can be scared all the way up until five overall.

And if the giants don't take Jeremiah Love at five overall,

you're good to go because they're not using that second round pick

on a running back with all the needs they have.

And then that means they feel confident about Cam's recovery.

But that's really what it comes down to, Heath,

with a player like Cam.

A lot of, like, he's special for a lot of reasons

that my mind, we were obviously super high on him.

I was super high on him before the Giants draft.

And I said he was the most underrated back in the class.

You can go back and look at those takes from well

before the Giants draft them.

But the reason being is he has lateral agility

and lateral explosiveness that don't often think shows up

in the testing, but it showed up on the tape at Arizona State.

He was the only running back since 2022 besides Gen T

to force more than 100 mistakels in a single season.

That includes this year with Love.

That includes running backs of the past.

He was that good.

But when you recover from an injury that diared,

are you going to still have that same lateral explosiveness

and agility?

That's the one thing that concerns me.

And if that's not back and the Giants

have a feeling that's not back,

I think we'll see them draft love potentially.

Yeah, I think the bigger thing is like,

we talk about backs with similar draft capital,

Cam's got a boo.

And when there are regime changes,

they're just very replaceable.

And if they're really good, they don't get replaced.

And he is really good.

But if he looked like for a lot of backs,

year two, if you lost some of that explosiveness,

the first half of the year,

that might not actually hurt your dynasty value that much.

But he is always going to be at risk

of let's just invest at the position.

And so if he's not right for the start of this year,

that could make a big difference.

One thing that does work for him,

because I think it's a great point by you, Heath,

with the regime change and what that means for football fantasy.

One thing that does work for him is that he does fit

exactly what Harbao wants, right?

He's that tough player who's going to be in there.

He they just put in Patrick or Carr,

they just added like, like, likely,

I feel like it's a good fit from that standpoint.

So we'll see if it just comes down to his health.

So Jackson Dart hopefully gets some league neighbors back.

It's Isaiah likely added, they added Darnel Mooney as well,

which I've heard you're kind of excited about.

Should we have any concerns about Jackson Dart

regressing in year two in a new offensive system?

100% you should have concerns about it.

Because if you've listened to me long enough,

you know that I am not somebody who thinks,

oh, you add a million receivers

and you're good to go at quarterback.

No, quarterback comes down to a lot of things.

Receivers much lower on my list.

There's a lot of capable NFL players

who can compete at receiver and surprise people

at receivers we see year after year.

But what you do need is, in offensive line,

that can protect the Giants at a great job

of bringing back your main aluminum or the right tackle.

They haven't yet done anything about right guard.

There's a glaring hole right now there.

So we'll see what happens there.

But the biggest issue by far is going from Davon Kafka

to Matt Nagy.

Davon Kafka did a phenomenal job with Jackson Dart

from a schematic standpoint,

from getting him prepared standpoint,

and then Dart did the rest and Dart did a lot.

But going to a different scheme,

we have to see if Nagy's really understanding

of what Dart needs and what works for Dart.

If we see too much of like Nagy trying to fit Dart

into what Nagy believes Dart can do,

that's when the problems start

because things were simplified in a lot of ways

for Dart as they are for all rookies.

And Davon and Kafka both thrives in 12 and 13 personnel.

Now the Giants have leaned into that.

They sign Patrick card, they sign as they like that.

I think they understand like this is a good scheme

for maximizing Dart skill set.

We can go zone read, we can use them as a runner,

which they will continue to do.

That won't stop, which is great for fantasy.

Like he doesn't want to stop and the Giants don't,

they can't, you can't stop a player like that from running.

That's a big asset of his game.

Obviously he has to be safer with it,

which I think he was at the end of the year

that narrative to me is insanely overblown.

But like we just watched Jay Jim and Karpy slamming

his head into the goal line and I was like,

all right, well that's Jay Jay.

It's like what?

But anyway, I am a little concerned with Nagy

because Nagy's history is not great.

You can tell me probably more about that,

but how concerned my concern level should be

about Matt Nagy as an offensive coordinator.

I think it's just uncertainty.

Like I don't, listen, it's undeniably true

that the Eric Miami chiefs were much better

than the Matt Nagy chiefs offensively.

The personnel wasn't exactly the same.

The defenses in the NFL weren't playing exactly the same.

I had a sense in watching the Giants

when they were really having success that like,

well, they're not going to be able to do it this way

for multiple seasons.

Like they're finding some great solutions,

but I don't want to call it gimmicky,

but it was just like, yeah, we're going to do it this way

until they figure out what we're doing.

And what are you going to do after that?

And so I'll be interesting to see just how

dark find solutions in a different system.

Certainly something to watch.

She's a borderline top 12 dynasty QB for me.

Do we have any concerns about Malik neighbors recovery?

Yeah, we have to.

I mean, it was an injury that led to so much swelling

that he had to wait to get the surgery.

So it's a, anytime those surgeries delayed,

it's not a huge, you know, I'm not a doctor,

but it's not a huge deal,

but you don't want to see those surgeries delayed.

So I'm not, again, let me just remind everyone here

if they needed it, if they don't, I'm not a doctor

and I've never been anywhere close to being a doctor.

I couldn't even probably spend a day in medical school,

but from what I've seen, the recovery is doing better.

It is going better now.

I saw a clip of him working with the same guy

who trainer who worked with digs after his ACL

and digs came back pretty fast

and looked pretty explosive, I thought last year,

especially for a guy right off the ACL,

we usually see that one year period.

So maybe that's a reason for hope,

but a lot of this is just conjecture in my mind.

We're just pulling it straws and I don't really know.

I think we have to wait and see.

Let's take our first break when we come back.

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We are back.

And I've recently updated all,

except for Tyden, I think, on the site

of my dynasty positional rankings.

But it's not as if in late March, early April,

we have a lot of certainty about those.

The draft is still coming up.

We're still kind of processing free agency.

So I want to get a couple of answers from Dan to see if he can help me

feel a little more certain about my takes.

The first one, Ameka Buco lost Mike Evans.

He's gone to San Francisco.

That's a positive.

The burden lost DJ Moore.

He's gone to Buffalo.

Should be great for both of those guys.

They both flashed in different types of the season last year.

Who would you rather have in dynasty?

Ameka Buco or Luther Burton?

Yeah, I saw this on the run down.

I was like, this is going to be a tough one for me.

Because I know for redraft, I think for redraft,

actually, burden will somehow jump the Buco.

That's how this burden steam engine is just going to the top.

People are so excited about it.

Well, you do talk to Jacob Gibbs more than anyone else.

And he is the conductor all that engine.

So yes, I still don't know.

And you could probably talk to this.

We'll have a conversation about at some point as I brought up

on our show to Jacob.

I still don't know where the target's the volume is coming from.

When you consider that still a pretty run heavy offense.

And Caleb is still not really at the point where we need him

to be processing wise, though he's an amazing player off script

and still is great arm town and all that.

He can make plays.

So for me, I think I lean toward a book.

I like the situation a little bit better.

I like Baker to get back on track.

There was so much Baker tape we watched last year

around the box where he was so disappointing.

He was, it just doesn't make sense, though, for me to just be like,

all right, Baker forgot how to play football

because you look back at the 2024 tape

and it was the best of his career.

But if you look at the entirety of Baker Mayfield's career,

Baker Mayfield forgot how to play football.

It happens regularly.

Maybe it's just he doesn't have the right to see.

It could be that, right?

Because Liam Cohen was there in 20 or when you really thrived.

But he did play like an MVP for like four or five games

of last season before the injury.

So I am thinking it's more to do with that injury

that he's suffering is multiple.

And he just gets beat up.

I mean, he's a little guy, he's like six foot.

So that could continue to happen.

I don't know, but I just want to believe in him

because what I was going to say

is from watching all that Baker tape

toward the end of the year,

we had so many Buka questions.

And like you would watch the tape

and you'd just see that least once per game

at Buka would run a double move on the outside.

You'd have one on one coverage.

He'd be wide open.

He had a burn his guy.

But like either he had to wait for Baker to get the ball there.

It would be off target or Baker just wouldn't see him.

It would be like a lot of that.

And I feel like they're going to go back

and watch the tape and be like,

there's a lot of opportunities

to actually use him as a vertical threat.

And that I think will unlock more of his dynasty value.

Yeah, I worry that he gets caught a little bit.

Like if Chris Godwin's all the way back,

that Godwin just is the clear number one target and error.

And then a Buka is not like in that Marvin Harris

and junior type role where there's some spike weeks

and there's some terrible weeks.

I think he's better or has been used in a better way.

I've got burden at wide receiver 12 in dynasty.

I've got a Buka at wide receiver 13.

You can't dynasty think.

So let's go through the guys that I have right behind them.

That's a great point.

Rashi rice.

Oh no, I don't know.

Rashi rice dynasty guys.

Oh no.

Marvin Harrison, junior.

I think I still I still want to believe

Marvin Harrison junior over those guys.

I'm well ahead of consensus.

I think at 15 overall and I've got you in dynasty.

So I mean, I just bought him last year and you're you're redraft

for dinosaur super flex.

Crystal lobby.

A lobby.

I'm definitely higher on.

Okay, Brian Thomas junior.

No, Garrett Wilson.

I think I'd rather get it Wilson than both of those guys.

And like it's it's kind of hard.

It's kind of apples to oranges with a lobby and with Wilson

because they're three and four years older.

Zay flowers.

I just don't think like to me that age difference isn't enough

to when they're both young enough.

Zay flowers as a danchniere guy he always has been.

I've been buying him for like the last two, three years

and redraft.

I feel like we made profit by the way.

Somebody I think Jacob told me on an episode yesterday

was why receiver six last year.

I don't think anybody realized he was like sneak away.

On a team that threw like 490 pounds.

And I'm 10 spots ahead of consensus on him at 19.

And I like his game a lot.

I don't think I think honestly there are situations

where if the Ravens don't resign him,

you can even go to a better situation for a fantasy standpoint

off from scoring standpoint.

So I'm going to say flowers over those guys too for me.

Which is weird because those guys are young.

Bird and aboka or lad Maconkey.

Lad for sure for me.

I mean, while the lad has so many questions

about lad Maconkey in this.

And I think some of them will get answered in the draft

like do the chargers go draft a wide receiver.

It looks better for him with Keenan Allen gone.

And hopefully he's like you just play Quentin Jostin

and Dre Harris on the outside and give Lad

more of those slot targets.

I was going to get another alignment man.

And it's going to be awesome.

I can't wait for that offense.

I didn't get my ball for the 16th consecutive year

is the year of the chargers here.

Here they come.

Justin, every time maybe.

Yes, does the loss of like I got really excited

about Malik Willis just the upside and how cheap he was.

But does the loss of Jalen Waddle make it much less likely

that Malik Willis gets to start more than one year?

This is a real football question, right?

Not a fantasy for a second.

Well, I think it for dynasty purposes, it matters a lot

whether Malik Willis is a Justin field.

You get six games to prove that you're good.

It's going to be hard to prove he's good without a wide receiver.

So from the fantasy standpoint, I'm dubious,

but from the real football standpoint,

I actually, I've discussed a little bit earlier

and I'll discuss it again.

I don't, why are receivers like down on my list

of what makes a quarterback successful?

And more importantly, what makes a team believe

they can keep moving forward with a quarterback?

I think the bigger thing is how, one,

how does he fit in this game?

It's Bobby Sloak, who I actually believe is underrated.

Like if you look back at CJ Strauss career,

the only time he was ever really good was with Bobby Sloak.

And then he just fired him because their online was horrible.

And then I blame it all on Sloak.

He bring in this new guy and they're like taking a wild

even do anything on offense last year.

And at the end, they found a little success

mostly running the ball, but I actually believe in Bobby Sloak

that the issue is, can that offensive line maintain

what they want to do offensively?

Because they want to run the ball.

They want to have a very dynamic run game with Willis and HN.

And obviously the guys they have behind HN.

But they also want to be able to hit

those play action shots.

That's the whole Bobby Sloak offense.

And that's when you need like Nico Collins breaking

over the middle, like Straut had or Jalen Waddle.

So I'm not, I'm not going to rule it out.

Honestly, I liked what I saw from Willis too.

I really did.

And I liked him as a prospect coming out as well.

I think maybe the bigger problem for me is that the trade

of Jalen Waddle signals just how little Miami cares

about this season.

That's the problem.

And if they have the top three pick,

Malik Willis is not going to be a starting quarterback.

It was very long.

True.

And Miami, most likely, I guess if there's a third one,

maybe it will be who is more likely to become a feature

back in the NFL.

Basial Tutan, Urgey Quarry, Crosky Merit.

Yes, all this one.

This was another tough one for me.

Good.

That's kind of the whole point that these are the things

I'm struggling with.

They end up supposed to have a take.

Yes, and I will.

And I will.

I mean, the real take is, don't bet on either of them,

but the take as far as who was more likely for me,

I'm going to lean on my draft evaluation.

I was much higher on Basial Tutan for reasons being

that at Virginia Tech, he did in some ways

in that final season carry the load.

I mean, we haven't seen that as much.

Urgey Quarry, Crosky Merit, he had a big season

then he sat out his last season due to the NCAA rules.

And that was kind of odd for him.

But Tutan, to me, has more upside to be

that receiving option.

And potentially, you will see a pass predictor.

That's the only way you could really get it.

But he's just so explosive that at some point,

I can see them being like, we can't take this guy off the field.

I think the answer is probably unknowable to us,

not because we can't see the future,

but because both of these guys have things

that they are not doing, the fantasy football managers

don't care about at all, that coaches care about a lot.

And which one of those guys cleans those things up

is the one that is more likely to become a featureback?

Exactly.

And we're not going to know that until we hear it.

Maybe we'll get a hint in August

when the coaches are talking about he's really improved this.

But it has to do with what they're doing

outside of the things we get to see,

and whether they can improve in those areas.

And...

Washington's going to take love, I think it's seven anyway.

So I think that we could have the answer for many fours.

That would end it, but not if the giants take love.

Five, Alex, what about the chiefs?

I just saw Tom McShay said,

he's hearing the chiefs are going to take love.

That was the craziest thing I read all week.

If they sign Walker and Jeff Love,

I might do like an Azer type.

I'll do something, I'll shave my head or something.

That is not that.

Or at least you could just say you're going to do it.

Yeah, and then not do it.

Right.

That's the easier way.

Alex Pierce is one of the big winners of free agency

from a financial standpoint.

I really struggle with this guy

because he's been awesome on a per catch basis.

He's great down the field.

But I am not entirely sure that I believe

after half of a season that we've learned

that Daniel Jones is now a good quarterback.

And I'm not sure that Alex Pierce

is ever going to be a guy that earns targets

at a rate high enough to really be

a difference maker in fantasy.

Yeah, what's interesting is the cult

signed him to that insane contract.

And I don't think they signed him

with the idea in mind he said

they're going to design their offense around him.

Which is just an odd thing.

Like he felt he was so invaluable.

They couldn't let him go, which I respect

because he's really freaking good at tape on tape.

And he's really good at what he does.

He's an isolated boundary receiver

and he wins in every way you can win there.

He wins with come back routes.

He wins with the outbreakers, the sharp cuts.

He wins over the top.

Obviously we all see that.

And he can make in cuts.

It's like he can do all the things,

but like that's not a high volume role in any offense.

I don't see whether any sign they're going to change that.

Like yeah, people say, oh, pitman's gone.

There's a lot of vacated targets.

That's the answer.

Right.

Is that just just sounds right?

Or is it going more to Tyler Warren?

And there's other options as well.

They might not pass as much.

You know, it depends on a lot of things.

So I don't really see him ever becoming

that high volume guy, which is weird for fantasy

because then you're kind of relying on Joan

staying good at a deep passing, which his fluctuated

throughout his career, right?

He was an OK deep pass from 2019.

He was the worst deep passer in the league in 2024.

And then he was a great deep passer again in 2025.

But with the cults, I don't know, you know,

if you can look at the past and say,

well, the giants were such a dumpster fire.

Like let's remove all those years.

It's like, that's a lot of tape.

And there were opportunities for him

where he had clean pockets and missed anyway.

And then he was great with the cult.

So I don't know exactly what to make

of Daniel Jones at this point.

I think it's definitely somebody asked in the chat.

And we've got other questions that we'll try to get to

at the end of the show.

Should I trade Alec High on the contract news?

I would say if you can, yes, you should.

Here's a list of wide receivers that

are in the same range as Alec Pierce in my dynasty ranking.

So we'll go with three or four above.

I'm going to leave Terry McClure and Alp

because he's a different type of discussion.

He's better than these guys, but so old

that he's a contender, only player.

Ricky Purcell or Alec Pierce.

I go out Pierce.

Purcell has just been injured so much.

Xavier Worthy or Alec Pierce?

I'm never going to quit Worthy.

Give me Worthy.

It's Parker Washington or Alec Pierce.

Oh my God.

Parker Washington is so good of football, but nobody cares.

That's so tough.

Like P full PPR, I might actually lean Washington.

Speaking of full PPR, Alec Pierce or Juan Dale Robinson?

Oh, I love Robinson.

I don't know why people are so down.

Robinson was just signed to 18 million.

He's going to be everything in that offense.

They're going to get 150 targets, Robinson.

I need a podcast just if you and Azer,

one of the FFT express episodes need to just be you and Azer

on Juan Dale Robinson, because he hates him.

I know.

We're up here just different sides there.

Alec Pierce or Michael Wilson?

Alec Pierce or Michael.

Oh, no, no, don't ever bring up the name Michael Wilson

with regards to these type of people.

I'm the biggest Michael Wilson truth

that you're ever going to find.

Michael Wilson, me.

I don't even care if that situation with this point with Wilson.

The tape is so good.

I don't give a crap about it.

He shouldn't be named with these people.

He's that much better at playing football than all of these guys.

Alec Pierce or teammate Josh Downs?

No, it's Downs for me.

I just talked about this with Jacob on a previous show.

I love the Downs Dynasty situation.

He's a free agent and they're not going to have money to reside.

And he's going to go to an amazing spot possibly

and be like a fantasy beast.

Let's move to the rookies.

Do you have any thoughts yet on Mendoza as an NFL quarterback?

Mendoza is going to be a really tough eve out.

That's the exact same thing I went through with Jackson's art last year.

So little of the system he played in at college translates to the NFL.

So you just have to throw your hands up and be like,

I don't know how he's going to translate from a mental standpoint.

It could go either way.

But so just lean on the physical stuff.

From a physical standpoint, I like what Mendoza has to offer.

He is first and foremost for me is the frame.

I think frame is insanely important.

You rarely see these Baker Mayfield types make it in the NFL six foot, six foot one.

It's because you take too many hits.

It's because people say it's because you can't see over the line.

I don't know if that's true, but it seems like all these short guys

don't use the middle of the field well.

So maybe that is true.

They don't really seem to see it well.

So he's got the frame.

He's got the arm talent, I think.

And he has the willingness to throw tight windows and back shoulders.

To me, that's like half the battle with quarterbacks.

Like, do you understand that like I could time this thing up right

and I could process this right where I could put a ball in a spot

around a receiver on his back shoulder and make a big play out of it.

It's not going to look open, but it is open

because that receiver is able to make that play.

And I think he has that willingness.

And I think he's just showing even though it's not an NFL system.

I have seen good cut ups of him like processing and understanding

pre-deposed snap.

Where are these safeties rotating and where is the space I have on the field

to take an opportunity to throw it?

That was something darted and that was something a lot of these quarterbacks

that play in these kind of gimmicky systems

that you can't really fully understand how they're going to translate in NFL.

They do show moments of that.

And you're like, all right, he understands space,

which to me is probably the most important thing for a quarterback.

And the Raiders apparently agree with your quarterback development process

that receivers don't really matter.

Look out for Jack Bash here, too, Jack Bash.

The reason I asked that question was because I think a lot of people are like,

well, can he be good for fantasy?

And for a dynasty superflex perspective, my main concern

is I think it loves going first.

And the question right now is, where does Mendoza go amongst those wide receivers?

And for me, it's second.

And the only way that can be I can feel good about that is if I think,

you know what?

More likely than not, Mendoza is going to stick as a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Forget about what he's going to do in terms of how many fantasy he's going to stick

as a five-year starter in the NFL,

than he's worth the second pick in superflex.

Yeah, I mean, just, I'll have our listeners just think about this question.

How many times in your life and dynasty have you need in a superflex

or two QB dynasty league that you're in?

Have you needed a quarterback to trade for a quarterback and gone through that misery

of not offering back a quarterback on your side?

It is so hard.

It's just their goal and they really are.

They're hard to get.

You got to use your assets and you got to take risks like this.

And it's so fluctuating too.

To me, the best value in dynasty superflex is trading for older quarterbacks.

I find the teams that do that are the smartest teams in dynasty.

Everyone's like, they're only going to play another year or two.

I'll give you whatever it is.

I just saw Goff got trading in one of my dynasty leagues.

Great trade by whoever got Goff because even the young guys fluctuate.

Like people in my league were taking victory laps over taking Michael Penex pretty late.

And now it's like, well, is Penex even a starter for much longer in his career?

If not ever again, at this time, we'll see what happens, what they do with him.

Penex had a really bad year and now he's coming off another injury.

And he's had a lot of lower body injuries.

And he's what 28 now or whatever he is.

He's he's getting older too somehow.

I don't think he's 28.

That was a joke.

I think he's only is what's Michael Penex's age?

He was so.

So I in my dynasty trade trade, I always have their age for week one, okay.

And week one, Penex will be 28 to be 28.

So two is two, two years, two years older than Michael Penex.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Fantastic.

Is do you think we talked about Mendoza a little bit?

We talked about love a little bit.

Do you think there's a quarterback or running back in this class that matters

besides Mendoza in love?

Running back, yes, quarterback.

Let's start with quarterback because they're running back easier to get to.

Quarterback that matters in this class.

I'm not a Tyson Simpson guy.

I can see parts of why people like him,

but I definitely don't like him for fantasy purposes.

Is there any like interested?

The kid from I have not studied him.

But the kid Cole Peyton, I think it is.

He's got some running and passing ability from the small school.

Keep an eye on him.

I don't want to speak on him yet until I watch his tape.

And I don't know if I'll even ever get to that because there's

doesn't seem like too much of a point for a fantasy standpoint.

But maybe from Dynasty's standpoint,

for beyond the box store, there will be a time we look into him.

We'll see where he's drafted.

But probably not a quarterback.

Running back, I think 100 percent.

Running back is a position to me that is very situation-dependent.

I think some of the biggest wins in running back,

even point my favorite when you had last year,

you had a bunch of wins.

My favorite win was the Andre Swift.

It was your best.

I thought it was your best win.

I thought looking at it,

like there were so many people who were out on Swift

and they were just using recency buys to be like,

this is such an easy fade.

And it's like,

but if you think of this situation and where it can go,

this could be a big hit.

And that was the upside of it.

And I think that's the case for a lot of these running backs

that may not be evaluated in such a high light.

This is not the greatest running back class.

But if they hit the right situation,

they could really be awesome.

And that was like even Kyle Minunga last year.

I loved him coming out,

Jake when I was a big sleeper of ours.

But like,

I never expected him to have that kind of impact.

But you go to that bare system.

And that's what happened.

I think there are a lot more Kyle Minunga's

and Blake Corms in this class.

Guys that may not become fantasy starters,

but can negatively impact the guy

currently viewing his fantasy starters.

I can play your flex at this point, right?

Because everything's changing in fantasy with the flex.

I used to be like,

if you don't fill your flex with a receiver,

especially in any kind of half or full PBR,

you're losing.

But now it's like,

eh, I got to put some backs in there

because nobody passes the ball well in the NFL.

And you can't find receivers at this point in fantasy.

No, it is, I mean,

we might be flexing tight ends as deep as that.

I know. I'll put tight ends in those spots.

So, so weird.

Speaking of tight ends,

I didn't put any tight end questions for Dan

because after the break,

we've got a couple of tight end trades

that we're going to get try to work out between Dan and I.

So we'll talk about their value there.

Let's finish though with the rookie wide receivers not finished.

But before we get to our second break,

how do you rank,

take Tyson and lemon as of now?

So it's a fun question.

We just did all three for Beyond the Ballsword this week,

draft profiles.

Are you are now,

I'm assuming you're asking just for dynasty to start,

right?

Because there's all different contexts for this question.

Let's say for dynasty,

for dynasty,

I am going with lemon one.

Let's see if the,

I'm going to go lemon Tate Tyson for dynasty.

Okay, so the way I've kind of been looking at this

and I've got Tate first

because I do think he has maybe more upside Dave was talking

their day and kind of thought he was a boring

wide receiver one if he's the wide receiver one.

But I do think there's some upside there.

I am like,

I know don't scout the helmet.

But can we change the rule to don't scout the helmet

unless it's a wide receiver from Ohio State?

No, yeah, I just had this conversation.

Don't scout that with Nick on a show.

Like don't scout the helmet is good if you're doing it right.

And doing it right is like saying like,

oh, no quarterback has ever worked a Texas tech.

I can't draft Patrick my homes.

That's doing it right.

Doing it wrong is not understanding the context.

Brian Hartlin's the best wide receiver coach in all of football.

College NFL, any level anywhere in the world.

He's developing receivers at insane level.

He just got a coaching job because of it.

So you can scout the helmet if it's based on a coach

or a situation like that.

And Brian Hartlin does develop receivers there.

And I think it's a, it's also,

it helps put the statistical profile in context.

Right.

When you're talking about Ohio State that just constantly has

three NFL wide receiver's

on the roster.

Yeah, you're not going to have a guy that goes and has 40%.

Well, you might one of them.

So when it comes down to Tyson and lemon,

it kind of looks to me like lemon is the safer option.

But I'm not sure we like we're going to have to find out if he has the upside

and Tyson has the upside,

but there's so much risk because of the injuries.

Yeah, for me.

So Tyson has the early breakout age.

People love that.

He has the early dominator factor with the targets.

People love that.

I am not one of those guys.

I don't follow that crap because I just think the context is so important.

Sure, Tyson has a 30% target share, whatever it is.

Of course, there's nobody else in that Irish owner state

offense to get the ball to.

Cardinal Tate is playing with the best receiver by far in college football.

In Jeremiah Smith, he's also going to be the first non-quarterback draft in

next year or teams have screwed up.

That's how good of a prospect he is.

It's a Julio Jones S level prospect.

So of course, Cardinal Tate's target share isn't great and his dominator rating,

whatever these ratings are aren't great.

That's the context of it all.

So when it comes to these players and those three specifically,

I just want to share some thoughts.

Tate is my wide receiver one for real football purposes.

But lemon is my wide receiver one for Dynasty because I've seen

the Tate style receiver, whatever you want to call it.

The boundary, he's going to be a zirn X and he's going to be a boundary receiver

pretty much his old career.

I've seen it just fail so many times because it's so reliant on so many factors.

One, is your quarterback able to process when he's open and get the ball out on time?

Is your quarterback a vertical thrower?

Is he confident in the vertical game?

Is your o-line able to hold up so you can run a vertical passing game?

All of those things are important factors for Tate's value for Dynasty and for

Fantasy Football.

Lemon doesn't rely on any of that.

Lemon is an inside receiver, he can play outside,

but he's an inside receiver who they're going to manufacture touches for

because he just gets open quickly and he makes sharp cuts and he's explosive

after the catch and he's tough at the catch point.

He really does it all in my opinion.

He's a great receiver.

So for me, I just trust that more in Fantasy and Dynasty and any format.

And then with Tyson, it's like you said, there's upside there, but like

for Dynasty, specifically Heath, I'm least high on him and that versus all

other fantasy formats because that relies on longevity.

And I just think that profile is just like so risky from an injury standpoint.

You said lemon can play outside.

Are you confident he can win outside in the NFL?

Yes, I don't think winning outside is reliant on the things that people

like, for example, one of the better outside winners that we've ever watched

is Antonio Brown.

How big is he?

He wins with a release package off the line of scrimmage.

That's all you really need.

And I think that he can eventually develop a great release package lemon.

But it doesn't matter.

I don't think they'll use him.

The way the NFL is going now, like I think I'll go to a team that's going to use him inside.

And that may not even be like as a strictly inside slot receiver.

A lot of these teams are smart.

Like the Rams, a lot of these teams are doing like, you know,

these personnel packages and these formations that are just tight split.

So it's like a lot of receivers inside.

Right.

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We are back.

And Dan, we've said it.

We have made a couple of trades.

I remember one of them.

I think you traded me, Mark Andrews, for two second round picks.

And you were roasted for it.

And it turned out to be.

No, no, no, no, no.

I don't remember who you took with those things.

I'll provide full contacts on that trade in a moment.

Keep going.

Okay.

And then I believe I turned around and trade in,

traded Andrews for Javante Williams, which I was also roasted for.

And that turned out great for me.

So, um, and was the other, was the second trade a Mark Andrews trade also?

Now is the Big Burger League trade, which I got crushed on.

You wanted Brian Thomas Jr.

I didn't give you Brian Thomas Jr.

I gave my late first for Kelsey and James Conner.

There I'm when I was trying to make a push to win it all two years ago,

like right before the playoffs, which I got crushed on.

Okay.

Well, based on how my rookie draft went last year,

I'm just going to assume that I formed that pick.

So it wasn't that bad.

Anyways, in our Yolo League,

that's our only one quarterback dynasty league that we're in together.

It's the longest running CBS dynasty league 14 teams.

Dan has been, he took over a, a rebuild project four years ago, I believe.

And it is, the team is currently titled the longest rebuild ever.

But, and I have been, I think I've been in the championship two of the last three years.

But our teams are moving to the center.

Like your team is not a team that I was good last year until the injuries needs.

You don't, you don't look at 2026 as a rebuild year.

You're going for it.

And I'm kind of at that point, where do I try to hold on one more year?

And the reason I probably will is because I don't have a 2026 first.

But what I noticed was my only tight end really is Travis Kelsey.

You have Tucker craft Kyle pits and Harold Fanon.

This is not a tight end premium league.

It's a half PPR league.

So I thought, you know, one of those tight ends should be on my roster.

Who is your least favorite in dynasty of Tucker craft Kyle pits and Harold Fanon?

Obviously, I love tight ends.

I drafted all three of these guys.

No, I inherited pits, but I drafted the other two.

And I feel like let's just be honest about this listeners.

I hit on both of those picks.

So I'm excited about them.

I don't know if I want to trade them yet.

Let me think about it.

But I'll say this and you provide some context first on that Mark Andrews trade.

Oh, Mark Andrews trade.

First year in the yellow league, I inherit this unbelievably bad team.

A month in the the rookie draft is.

I don't know the rules, but according to what I found out later,

you have to cut enough players before the rookie draft.

Or they won't let you make your pick and you lose your pick in the rookie draft.

So the only reason I did that Andrews trade was because Heath was like,

all right, well, you're screwed.

You don't get your first round pick.

What are you going to do?

I'm like, I guess I have to trade a player from my roster to be clear every year.

This is a pain point in the league.

And every year I send out multiple emails and league messages in the weeks leading up to

the draft saying, please get and I give you the exact number.

You have this many picks.

You need to cut this many players.

It was not a situation where you were surprised when you were on the clock.

Well, you may have been a situation when I was surprised.

That was entirely or not your fault.

The the point being like, I don't unfortunately get notifications for

league messages and CBS leagues.

I need to set that up because I've missed a lot of stuff in Big Burger.

I've missed a lot of stuff in this due to this.

I need to set up like notification system.

I don't know, but I was surprised.

And I was like, all right, I guess I don't have a first round pick now.

And he's like, I got you, man.

Just give me Mark Andrews.

I'll throw you a couple bad picks and we'll go from there.

Honestly, I didn't love it at the time,

but Mark Andrews hasn't done that much in fantasy.

And my team wasn't really ready to compete.

So like, I'm in the end, it's kind of like fine.

I remember who I got with those picks.

I bet one of them might have been darker crafts.

Honestly, I was high on craft.

So I don't know if that's true, but hopefully.

And you had Kyle pits on that team already.

Yes, actually, one of those picks could have been Drake May.

Because the year I took the year I my quarterbacks,

I just bottomed out like from this team I heard,

I took Drake May pretty late in that draft.

I think you should just say that you took Drake May with one of them

and Tucker Kraft with the other one.

Here we go.

It was great, great, great.

All right, all the time.

Now I'm more open to trading with you,

but as far as those tight ends go,

you just fill a bustard for 10 minutes.

And I'm just trying to find out which

are most likely to trade you fan in of those.

Fanon is your least favorite.

I guess if you want to call him that.

Okay, because you you recognize in a in a league where,

I mean, we've got eight defensive starters

that Dan likes to pretend like don't exist.

And we start trying on two running backs,

three wide receivers, two flexes and one tight end.

Having three really good tight ends may not be the best approach.

You might be able to use one of those

to improve one of your other positions.

So what are we talking?

What am I going to get?

I need to see this.

I mean, you let me know that Harold Fanon

was the guy you value the least.

Now I need to look at the Yolo roster

and try to figure out which of those guys,

what I have that you might want.

I have quite a few wide receivers though.

I'm playing for now.

So keep that in mind.

I don't want picks.

I want players.

Right.

Right.

So let me I'm going to pull up my Yolo roster

while you answer the next trade questions.

We'll move back and forth between the leagues.

I'm sure this is great content.

People love it.

In Bakeburger, you have Travis Kelsey.

It's a similar situation.

And Dallas Goddard.

Yes.

Those are the only tight ends you know.

That's disgusting.

I have Trey McBride and Harold Fanon.

We just learned that you're not as big of Harold Fanon

believer as I am.

And so I'm willing.

I like I'm I'm considering trading Trey McBride.

Okay.

Which would be come full circle

because two years ago we were arguing about how

you were lower on Trey McBride.

I was higher on Trey McBride.

Now I'm ready to trade Trey McBride.

You have Jalen Hertz who you absolutely despise.

No, I don't absolutely.

Would you would you add narrative?

Let's not put that out there.

Would you give up Jalen Hertz

and one of those old tight ends for Trey McBride?

You know, not to be harsh with this,

but that's not even close for me.

In a sewer of like sewer quarterback league,

which I would never give up.

Jalen Hertz, my losing starting job next year.

He's not any good.

He's just a system quarterback that has weapons.

Well, first of all, let me be clear.

I never said that whatsoever.

I did say he's not a lead and I stand by that.

I feel like every day that passes by

and every game that passes by,

I feel like there's more and more proof that I'm right

that he's not a lead.

And when I say a lead, I mean he's not Josh Allen.

He's not that top tier quarterback.

And I said he was second tier always and I'm fine with that.

I don't know if I even believe that,

but I'll just say it to be nice.

I guess he's then that second tier quarter.

He's certainly not not a lead to your quarter.

But I think we go all say that.

But from fantasy standpoint, what do I care?

They haven't outlawed the the push push.

He's still going to get me 10 cheap touchdowns of the year.

You eat right?

Like how many cheap touchdowns are going to get out of this guy?

Maybe their online gets healthy again

and they get some improvements there in the old line

and they become a good offense again.

So you know what?

Maybe he can be good for fantasy again.

You know what?

He's been good for fantasy pretty much every year

of his career.

I would say he is elite from a dynasty fantasy football.

Oh yeah, because here I was talking real football.

But I will say I was very surprised.

And this is, I've talked a lot about how,

how I've been the Jalenhurt supporter.

And we're talking real life for fantasy.

He's both.

And I'm right.

I always have whether I'm right now

in supporting him or not.

I was so, so right when he was drafted.

And I was so, so right when I was arguing

that he should be ranked higher than trail ants.

Yep.

And now maybe I'm a little too high.

But what's happened within the community is once again,

these AJ Brown trade rumors start.

And Jalenhurt's had a bad second half of the season.

Thank you Kevin Petrula.

And Jalenhurt's about dynasty value has fallen.

If you look at the dynasty league football,

which I use it all the time, the trade chart.

And you put in Jalenhurt and you put in Tremac bride,

it is a dead event trade for a super flex league

that is non-tied in premium.

Because Tremac bride is viewed by a lot of people

as a borderline first-round pick in dynasty.

Wow.

And Jalenhurt's is like QB9 now in dynasty.

And so that's right about the same place and start up drifts.

We're talking about taking Mendoza at two though.

I think that just, I mean, I guess that's the calculator.

That's cool.

But we're talking about taking Mendoza at two.

I think that kind of shows you like you can never trade

Hurt's for make bride, right?

Well, yeah, I, I, I think so.

But I thought a team that needs quarterbacks.

So if you want to make me an offer for Tremac bride,

he is available and I'll be putting them on the trade block

a little bit later.

I might have some young talent that could intrigue you

some recent first-round picks at non-quarterbacks.

Let's just start.

I'm not sure you have any first-round picks.

No, no, some recent picks I've made.

I didn't think you'd made very many recent picks.

You didn't make a first-round pick last.

Straighting you, my one for Kelsey and Connor Troneman.

You didn't have the best, the best start-up draft ever

according to, I like the way that your team names

just tell everybody about your team.

One of them is the longest rebuild ever.

One of them is the best.

I think you should maybe add an addendum come,

is I don't know how many characters they allowed

in the team.

But can you have best start-up draft

to never win a championship ever?

Well, it depends if you're going to put the other context in.

I was 320 points ahead of anybody in points last year.

So what you determined,

what people determined to be the best team of a year

is up there.

I didn't say if you were the best team,

I'm just saying you didn't win a championship.

And you haven't won a championship.

Drafting the best start-up draft

is not everything about winning a championship.

As you know, there's a lot of management.

There's a lot of things.

So just because I had the best draft ever, start-up,

and my god was it.

I mean, let's look at this roster, it's insane.

We don't have to go over it on the air,

but we're talking about JSN.

We're talking about taking James Cook.

But the league is really enjoying.

The league is really enjoying hearing me

razz you about how great this team is.

This never won a championship.

So my wide receivers in the YOLO league

where you have Harold Fanon,

are Drake London, no chance.

Garrett Wilson, Devonte Smith,

Devonte Adams, Jordan Addison.

Those are my top five wide receivers.

They're almost too good for Fanon, unfortunately.

I would trade you, I mean, you're a win now, team.

Yeah.

I would trade you Devonte Adams for Harold Fanon.

Oh, Devonte Adams was one of them.

I could be interested in that.

And I'm going to send the trade offer through.

I need to take a look into Devonte Adams

and see what's going on with his plans.

And see how many more years he's planning to play

before I do another one of these James Conner,

Travis Kelsey deals that I did a couple of years ago.

But I'm intrigued by that for sure,

because I have tight end depth.

And then at the running back position,

I have Derek Henry, Devonte Williams,

and Bruce Hull.

Or my top three.

It's like I said, it's still,

I'm not out of the contending window.

Yeah, you are in a weird spot.

But I do, I would like to take one or two of these older players

and turn them into maybe a younger player

who's not quite as good just to this.

And we've talked about this a lot.

A lot of people hate rebuilding.

I love it.

But I've been too extreme in this league.

I think the first three years,

I went to the championship twice.

The next two years,

I think I want to combine three games.

And it worked though,

because now you have the, you came back.

Well, it worked and I want a championship.

And I lost a championship.

I'll see this.

Keith, I don't think I've ever,

I've done Dynasty now for a little,

like probably it's been like 10 years

through various leagues.

I think I've never actually seen

except for this league.

Anybody do the full tear down and have it work.

That's how crazy it feels to me.

I talk about this Jacob all the time.

I feel like the most overrated thing in Dynasty

is the full tear down.

It's fun to do.

Everybody's excited about it.

It seems great.

And then you get the picks and you're like,

nothing happens and you're just like

toiling away for years.

It feels like.

Well, it works for you.

So it's clearly it's possible.

You guys in the chat can let Dan know

that he should accept this trade

because I have submitted the trade offer.

Dan will be, I hope,

sending a trade offer for Tray McBride later in the day.

I will tell you guys on a future episode

of FFT Dynasty,

whether we actually got a trade done

or if Dan chickened out.

We had a couple of mail bag questions

and I have a couple of chat questions.

Gene sent in from Montreal.

Love your show.

Never miss an episode in Superflex.

Would you trade Ivana H&N

for Chase Brown and Javante Williams?

H&N for Chase Brown.

Javante Williams.

I like.

I like Javante more than most.

So I want to start by saying that.

Right.

Don't love the direction to Bonn H&N either.

I want to start by saying this by loving him as a player.

I think I would do this trade.

So I have been like H&N was one of the guys

that I've been pretty high on for the last 36 more.

24 months, I guess.

And rightfully so.

I can't do it anymore.

Yeah, without McDaniel's stuff.

No, I mean, I can't be the trade.

Oh, just H&N so good.

Yeah, that's fair.

Like Chase Brown's been awesome.

I don't think there's like either one of these guys

or anywhere close to as good as H&N.

That's true.

And he's younger than both of them.

So if something goes wrong this year

or one of those, like if some goes wrong for Javante Williams this year,

I agree.

I like him.

If he has one bad year, one bad injury, he's done.

He's probably not getting another chance to starting running back.

Chase Brown has been really awesome,

but I don't know that the situation's that much different.

He's often said they don't want to trade H&N.

They want to resign.

So you know what?

I take it back.

I would not do this trade.

Howard says, what would it take to make you move

off of 101 in this year's draft?

Heading into year three of a rebuild.

So he's only one year away from the longest rebuild ever.

Holding that was not a shot at you Howard.

It was a shot at Dan.

And I hold the 101, the 103 in a series of second and fourth round picks.

A team has offered me 102.

So you're just moving down from 101 to 102,

112 and 209.

So you're getting the horrible offer.

So I had the 101 versus the 102 is everything in this draft.

I had Matthew Rupert on and he said that he would not give up another.

Now he said he wouldn't give up a 2027 first to move from fourth to one.

What?

So I'm confused by this.

He isn't a rebuild.

As soon as you remember the Beijon startup draft,

we had the Beijon rookie draft.

It was like, just you better have the 101 and don't give it up.

I feel like there's the same thing here.

What's the difference?

I remember because you had the 101 and I wouldn't give it.

And I think I offered three or four first round picks

and you wouldn't change my mind.

I wouldn't.

And let's have fun.

Now I have Beijon.

Do I want the three picks?

You have Beijon and approximately nine wins.

That's since you acquired him.

I was like four and one.

Startlatch your four neighbors got hurt.

Let me make that clear.

But yeah, that's the thing.

And I think that's the problem when you're in a rebuild and you have the 101

and the best player is so obviously this running back.

Yeah.

It's like, will I be good before we start counting his age against him?

Yeah, I know.

It's true.

But the reality is all you really need for him is a really good first season.

And your trade, his trade value is going to be even better going.

So it's like from an asset standpoint,

it doesn't really make sense to sell at this point.

Like the best time to sell to me is not before he gets drafted.

It's after he dominates his first year.

So Dan is holding networked out really well with Beijon.

It would have worked out really poorly with Genty.

Genty.

But even so, like if you try to trade for Genty right now,

nobody's selling him low.

Yeah, I don't know if you offered two firsts and a second for Genty.

If you could get it done.

If one of those was the one of those is 112, though.

That's true.

One of them's one of two.

One of them's 112.

So it's probably something like,

probably, I mean, I don't know if I'm going into a rebuild and you're saying

it's Genty for Mendoza.

And oh, this is super flex.

He actually did not say I just say it's not more of this argument.

So I was thinking, let's say it is for this argument,

because it's not, I don't think it's a debate if it isn't.

That's my point.

It's even worse if it isn't right.

But if it's super flex and you can get Mendoza plus 112 and 209.

I still wouldn't do it, but I guess like it's just it's hard to set more sense.

When you bring the quarterback in, it's hard to,

it depends on if you need quarterback that's really.

You mentioned DeAndre Swift earlier in the show.

Jay Kwan wants to know, would you trade 110 in this draft for DeAndre Swift?

Interesting.

Let me take a look at the Swift situation real quick.

I forgot what his contract is with the Bears.

I think you're probably viewing him as a one-year guy.

Well, no.

I think he's a one-year floor with a three-year ceiling.

This is his last year under contract with the Bears.

I think they're probably unlikely to resign him.

That matters to me.

If he's not with the Bears, I don't want Swift personally.

I like him.

He's a good player.

He showed he can run hard this year, but like,

fantasy is about the situation.

And like Ben Johnson created that run game.

And the online created that run game.

Gave him those opportunities in my mind.

So I don't think I would do it.

If I like, I got the 110 because I was like, I was Dan's team last year

and I outscored everybody by 300 points.

But I lost in the semi-finals.

Parable said, I hate when that happens.

Then I would 100% do it.

Because Deandre Swift could help me win a championship this year.

And I really think it's unlikely the 110 is going to.

But you couldn't do it.

You couldn't do it if you were my team.

Because that team has Deandre's, I mean,

the team has James Cook, Jimmy or Gibbs and Breeze Hall.

So you don't need a running back.

Well, we only start one flex now, League.

Two flex, but then I also am stacked at receiver.

It's just a stacked game.

It's so good.

One day, maybe I'll reach everyone.

Yeah.

So I would probably do that.

Deal, Jake, one, Dan would not.

No.

I think the 110 gets a little more valuable if Tysonston is the top 15 pick in the NFL draft.

Because then he's going to be drafted before 110.

True.

But still, you're not going to get conception.

And you're not going to get Sadeek.

You're not going to get the RB2.

It's a good point to you.

You're probably choosing between Denzel Boston

and the RB3 in this class.

Yeah.

I'd rather have some.

You're playing for now, do the trade.

And Swift could be starting running back for the next three years.

That part, I'm dubious about.

Tied in premium.

Took over a team that I'm rebuilding.

Would you give Justin Jefferson for Tyler Warren and a 2027 first?

No.

That's an easy no for me.

So do you think is that because Kyler Murray

is really going to be much better than J.J. McCarthy or J.J. McCarthy

can't be that bad again?

Definitely not the latter.

J.J. McCarthy definitely can be that bad again.

Or he can get better.

I think both are in play, but I think he's more likely to not.

Kyler Murray, I think we'll start the whole year for

Friday in his note and have some success there.

Not because I think he's this all-world quarterback.

I just think the situation with Kevin O'Connell, it's as good as it gets.

And their old line is good.

And Jefferson and I, it's a great situation for a quarterback, no matter who it is.

But for me, it's more just like, I don't have the same belief in war.

And as others do, even though Tied in premium.

And Jefferson to me is still one of the best assets in any dynasty format.

Jefferson's currently my wide receiver seven.

Will be 27 at the start of this year.

He is rebuilding.

I don't know if this is the year one of the rebuild.

Or maybe we might be good in two years if I'm starting the rebuild.

And I can get a 27 first and Tyler Warren and Tied in premium.

I'm probably doing that.

But it's, I understand why you wouldn't also like.

I don't want to trade Jefferson at his lowest point.

That's like the big problem for me.

Right. It's just, yes.

I agree. And I still think Jefferson's awesome.

I hope this is his lowest point.

Right. You're right.

It could not make it.

We could have raised that bad.

We could have month into this season.

Boy, you're right.

It may not be his lowest point.

That's a good point there.

Because like I said, I had my wide receiver seven.

The guys I have behind him are Drake London,

Teteromic, Mill and Nico Collins and George Pickens.

Yeah.

I don't think it's impossible that one of those or two of those

or three of those guys is ranked out of them a month into the season.

How much of a gap is there between this year's wide receivers

and Jeremiah Smith next year?

Oh, and absolutely massive gap.

The biggest gap you'll ever find.

To me, I think at least I mean,

even if I compared Jeremiah Smith to pass draft classes,

the year before this, he'd be easy.

Y-Z-R-1.

I think he'd be easy.

Y-Z-R-1 in the neighbor's class too.

That had studs, neighbors,

Arizona.

Dunes, easy Y-Z-R-1.

We're talking about one of the best prospects.

I think we'll find in the next 10 years.

It's a decade type prospect to me.

Like I just watched Carnaultate,

a ton of tape on tape for the shows we did this week.

I'm beyond the box door on my other podcast.

And all you can see is like the defense is doing everything

again to take away Smith.

They're shading coverage over the top.

They're playing cloud coverage.

Then you have tape wide open on the other side,

basically on a boundary.

And they're still going to Smith.

And he's winning anyway.

And they're just like, yeah,

I'm going to keep going to Smith

because he's going to win this double coverage anyway

and beat whatever the defense puts in him.

When you see that,

you just know how good a player is.

When he's beating, when they're trying to take him away,

the quarterback's still going to him.

And he's winning.

That's the ultimate sign of an amazing football player.

And this is why we've been saying for a long time,

a choir of 2027 firsts.

Yeah.

And it doesn't even have to be like 2027 first

that you think are going to be early.

You just won as many of them as you can.

Because we might get three good quarterbacks.

And Jeremiah Smith.

And one of those guys is going to be the 104,

incredibly.

Right.

And then whatever the next level is after that.

So like those 2027 firsts are going to be extremely.

I'll take it a step further.

If your dynasty team is looking like it's not had,

if you thought you would compete

in this head in the wrong direction early,

play that, play it, play to get top four back.

Like, this is a big class to get one.

So make sure you do.

That's going to do it for FFT dynasty.

Awesome job as always.

Dan, thank you to everybody who was active in the chat.

Thank you, Debo, for making everything work like it is supposed to.

We are getting ramped up for draft coverage.

It will start next week.

And we will talk to you next Tuesday.

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