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Matt?
Wanted to know about that.
Everyone wanted to know about it!
The whole world was talking about that!
But instead of straight up, go to him.
Oi!
He was like Neo in the Matrix.
He just leaned back to the bullet
and just went straight past him.
Hello, hello!
Alrighty!
Your microphone is not on.
Pick on the button with the picture of the microphone.
It's the Madden Alex podcast
and don't it feel so fine?
Yo, that is correct.
It is the Madden Alex podcast
on this beautiful Wednesday,
the 11th of March, Alex Dyson.
This miserable, disgusting winter day
because you're listening to this in the future.
Yeah, it could be any time.
But as we speak,
I mean, there's people panicking,
petrol-wise.
I saw a little Reddit host
someone saying,
Wogger's run out of diesel.
No.
There's no diesel in Wogger.
I don't know whether that's believable or not.
Why?
It's like, buddy,
Melbourne running out of flat whites.
What's going on here?
Wogger needs the diesel.
That is a big thing, like a lot of the farmers
don't like diesel.
Exactly.
But they use a lot of nitrogen
to make their grass grow.
They need the diesel.
They need it.
Yeah, exactly.
Look, if we run out of a bit of petrol,
you know, it would be all right.
Look at pie.
They're screwed.
Exactly.
So anyways,
hope you're doing OK
in this muddled,
duddled world of ours.
Exactly.
For a war that's
there was sort of clutching at reasons for it.
One of which was, you know,
we got to free the Iranian people.
You know, they're under a regime
which is very oppressive.
Next minute,
because you're blowing up their oil,
it's literally raining black oil
on the people.
These are the people you're meant to be helping there.
Yes, yes, yes, look.
Tattoo.
A non-day was not talking about
the Iranian war.
No, let's, let's, let's dive in.
Deep cut.
What's that?
Deep cut.
Chocolate rain.
Remember that song?
Oh, no, I don't.
OK, look, we're going to dive into
a big mountain all day.
Breakfast podcast.
Let's do it.
Let's get this show on the road.
Let's go.
Here we go. Here we go.
Here we go.
I was a bit of a petrolhead on the weekend, Matt.
Are you the one that was taking it all?
No.
Well, I was running on a little bit of the
amber liquid, but it was the old red bulls
were keeping me going because I was hosting the
red bull stage at the red bull pit lane
right next to the track.
Alex Dyson called up to introduce not only
the, an interview, not only the drivers,
a few of the big wigs behind the scene, big wigs.
But you're interviewing Max Verstappen one minute,
then you're talking to the world champion football juggler
the next minute who gets up.
Shout out to Jay Hanikki.
God, that guy can juggle us.
A soccer ball.
What man?
What do you have to do to become the world record holder
of juggling?
Like, you have to do the most juggles
or you've got to do the most fanciest juggles.
Fancy.
You enter the red bull street style comp,
which has been going for 17 years.
And I'm sure I've seen a bit of it over, you know,
it creeps in your algorithm and you're like,
that's pretty sick.
Never been to a gig.
But man, balance, just balancing on his knee,
a side of the head shoulder.
That's crazy stuff.
Who was best dressed?
Were you like brushing shoulders with the celebs?
There was quite a few celebs rolling through.
I ran into it.
There was a bunch of Australian musicians.
So cop this or Keter Alexander.
She sung the national anthem.
She rolled through.
Fischer was in there.
Oh, I'm so excited.
She played a G-Plea and well.
Lime Cordial.
Moll Rat was there.
Young Franco was on the decks.
Hang out with him and his mum Trish.
Shout out to Trish for being in the building.
Jordan Mayyada.
Australian NFL player.
Yeah, NFL player.
Place for the Philadelphia Eagles.
That man was a big man.
That's all I see.
Gosh, he was a big man.
Big man, big Super Bowl ring on the finger as well.
He was in the building.
Do you see Cody Simpson?
Didn't see Cody.
No.
Did he see Scotty James?
Australia's most decorated winter Olympian.
Well, hold on.
Can we talk about Cody?
Cody's been making headlines.
After him and his partner, I'm a McEwan.
Incredible swimmer.
Split last year.
And they were sort of...
New stuff under their U-articles.
Suggesting that there could be a little rendezvous between Cody and Jules Neill.
Ex-partner of Locky.
What headlines do you get fed in your...
How do they track you to just put this piece of cheese on your nose?
You are...
It's like a mouse next to the piece of cheese.
You're just gobbling it up, mate.
I am.
Every single time.
Every piece of salacious, unverified gossip in front of Maddo Kite.
He bites at it every single time.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't just bite.
That's why the old damn thing.
I'm ready.
He's the big trout.
That's so life-fishing little thing comes along.
Are you telling me this whole time?
This whole time you're at the F1.
Did you see anything remotely salacious or gossip-worthy?
No.
It's just good people having a good time.
You're not working hard enough.
The funny thing is is, you know, because I had to interview Max Verstappen after his dreadful qualifying result,
where the car just out of nowhere.
Said it never happened in his whole career.
The back wheels flew out.
He hits the wall.
You know, better doing it there than poor old Oscar Piaster.
Oscar Piaster, I saw that.
I mean, I don't even follow F1.
But even as a complete outsider, there's heart-breaking.
I'm not sure what we can really compare that to in our world, Matt.
If you and I were hosting the top 20 of the hottest 100, right?
Yeah.
We're up there.
We're getting to number one.
And for some reason, we start defaming Cursey out people.
We just have an absolute Barry Crocker in front of the entire nation.
No, no.
It would be that we're due to host, like, the Grammys.
And we're doing our sound check.
And we're like, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
And then it's from us.
And we go, me, me, me, me, me, me.
I can't do it.
I've lost my voice.
That would be the complete flop that happened.
Feel so bad for the bloke, because he is a legend.
And like, no one blamed, like, people make mistakes at work all the time.
And these new cars have new extra power things.
And he's like, all right, but just have to walk back to the pit lane.
Because it happened 30 minutes before the actual race.
They were just getting the cars in position.
I mean, have you ever...
You're pretty rock solid.
I mean, that's why you've had a career for this long doing this thing.
Have you ever, you know, flopped just at the...
In the lead-up.
I remember one of my big flops was...
It's not a big flop, but I remember feeling really bad about it.
Because in radio, a lot of the time you need to time out to the news.
And I stuffed it up, like the song finished too early.
And I'm like, oh, damn it.
I tried to pad, didn't work.
And then I hit play on another song.
And it was a song by animal collective called Girls.
At the start of the song, like, starts really softly.
Don't jump boosts off, you go...
Can't jump, can't jump, can't jump, can't jump, can't jump, can't jump.
Does that phrase for about 30 seconds?
They did that.
And then went to the news.
Bump up and tap out.
They're like, ah gosh darn it.
And I just like, man, I've flopped that.
I absolutely flopped it.
All the time I turned in my computer chair.
I mean, because you wear head for big headphones over your head.
I was doing a radio show by myself over nights.
Turned in my computer chair while talking to someone.
one and like the headphone called quarter of my leg and it pulled the headphone jack out
of the desk.
So I couldn't hear the person I meant to be talking to, it's just me with the microphone
on.
And then in order to find where the hole is under the desk, so it's not immediately, so
I have to bend down away from the microphone like this and then pick up the thing and then
come back up and find the hole.
I have to say, sorry, I need to go to the song.
I can't hear you, I can't hear you, sorry, yeah.
I can't, and you just feel so, yeah.
Well, if Oscar PR Street feels, you know, quite as bad as you probably did on that night
where your headphone jack came out, because he did when he crashed in the warm-up lap of
Melbourne crop.
Yeah, well, overnight such a good day.
A few people listen, but not many people are sitting there looking at me whilst wearing
a cap with my initials on it.
They're hands going straight to that.
I saw so many people, like in the videos, just hands to head, oh, my God.
It's really tough, because like, yeah, talking to Max Verstappen, obviously, you're
not, he's starting 20th on the grid, the four-time world champion starting 20th.
So he comes in, that's the thing, he's such a pro.
He comes in, he's very, very pleasant, but he's one of the two people I remember being
just like having that intensity where he doesn't, you know, he doesn't need to be doing
these duties.
He wants to focus on the race.
So then you've got this random Australian man talking at you.
And he's talking to you before the race or after the race?
Before the race.
So this is like 11 a.m. on race day.
Yeah, sure.
He comes in and I'm like, oh, so how are you feeling about the race?
He's like, no, no, obviously not the best yesterday, but we're looking forward to a good
one.
And then he's like direct eye contact with me, just like, and it just feels as if it's
like, okay, so what's the next question?
And I'm like, okay, so, um, did you get up too much while you've been in Australia?
No, we're getting quite late.
So, um, haven't got to see much, unfortunately.
Yeah, I got you the next question, are you like, okay, but how are you feeling about
the whole year?
Got a race you're really looking forward to?
Oh, you know, I like a lot, obviously the, uh, the hunger, uh, the Austrian ring will
be good to home race, but, uh, yeah, it's a long season, like staring at you and it's
like, well, that's the thing because I don't want to go like, we can't just go, oh, mate,
you're such a busy man.
You don't need, like, you don't need to be talking to Alex, like, exactly, you know,
you don't want to be here.
It's difficult to get a rapport with someone when they're just sort of like, fulfilling
the contractual observation, but he was very, very nice, but he had that sort of intensity
that people at the top of their game, I've experienced a couple of times.
The other one that I really remember having that was Daniel Craig, right, interviewed
him when he was playing James Bond and Skyfall or, um, one of those movies came out, quantum
solace or something.
And it's just that direct eye contact where you're like, okay, have you got a question
that I haven't already answered 30 times today?
You know, but, but also you can't, those kind of questions, the people around these people
don't want you to want, like, you don't want to actually level with a person.
Like it needs to be like, how's the movie looking or like, it needs to be, it can't focus
on the, on the bad things, which is totally understandable.
You don't want to, we're meant in the fact that, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, I'm, like,
I'm really tired or like, yeah.
Remember I tried to ask Arnold Schwarzenegger about, you know, you were very sneaky with
Arthur.
You were very sneaky with Mr. Schwarzenegger.
And again, he was such a pro, I answered perfectly.
He just parmed me off like I was, you know, I can't remember which rugby player.
It's as if you had the, the rugby ball and you were shot on the ball and you were
on it by Arda, came up to you just absolutely pushed you down into the dirt.
But I mean, what people don't realize is when you're watching these things is like, say
Bond, he would have come to you by the time you got to in front of James Craig, then
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absolute maximum capacity of being able to handle the stimuli that's around you.
It's honestly incredible that he's able to drive as well as he's done, and able to
do that, handle the interviews as well as he does and go around, it's very, very impressive.
Yes, but they are getting paid a lot of money to do that, and that is part of the job.
And did you see that they fled Australia very quickly so that they could keep the money
that they were getting paid?
Really?
No, I didn't know what he meant.
Because it used article outs like because they're here working in Australia, right?
Yeah.
And the reports I read was Max Verstappen on a $70 million a year contract or something
drive.
Sure.
Sure.
If you divide that by the amount of days he's working in Australia, that's six days
in Australia.
That's about $76,000 a day he's getting paid to work in Australia, right?
Sure.
And the Australian government rules us such that you make money in Australia, you pay
tax in Australia.
And so if he thought, Melbourne, Grand Prix was a nice time, race finished up on Sunday,
maybe I'll just hang out for two days, and it could be Charles Leclerc from Monaco.
Instead of going home straight away, you just go, well, I haven't been to St Kilda
Beach before.
Maybe I'll just head down there.
Well, you know what?
The Melbourne Zoo feels like, I might stick around until Tuesday and go to the Melbourne
Zoo.
If you're on $70,000 every day that you spend, you could be up, pay it up to $75,000
tax.
No.
Sure.
I mean, nah.
Surely not.
You're working in us, he's working in Australia.
That was what they'd use.com article said, Mettokine.
And if they're right about Cody Simpson, they're right about this.
Well, wouldn't you think that if you have got Max Verstappen going to, you know, St Kilda
Beach, flashing a few picks on his Instagram, it's going to bring $76,000 worth of tourism
to the spot, isn't it?
Right.
So you reckon the Australian government should...
Yeah.
There should be an exemption.
They should be someone at the border as you're flying out, so go and show us your
gram.
You know?
If you posted about it.
If you've got us a couple of, yeah, hashtags, you know, Great Ocean Road or whatever,
then show it.
And you can keep your money.
Otherwise, hand it over chance.
So in America, you've got to show up your social media on the way in to make sure you're
not going to have any JD events, memes on your phone.
It's jolly out your show, show your social media on the way out.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great.
That's a good system.
Perfect with that.
Well, I mean, we're talking about, you know, how much it costs for tourism, so let's just
keep it going, hey?
Well, well, well, Matt, what did you say to Arnie?
You kind of just dropped that in.
Oh, sorry, Bron.
Yeah.
Sorry, Bron.
I think we've talked about it before.
Have we been here?
But I'll just do it again.
Look, the movie was a terminator come back.
And part of it was, what happens in the movie?
So I'll tell you exactly what happened, Bron.
We go watch terminator because the new terminator is coming out, Arnie's in Australia.
In that terminator, the old Arnie, sort of the older version, fights his younger self,
okay, in the film.
So it's old terminator versus young terminator.
In real life, Maddo Kain was very interested in the story where Arnold Schwarzenegger had
an extra marital affair, reportedly, and had a child's outside of wedlock or something
like that, Matt.
There was, there was an affair going on, it was with the nanny, I believe, or something
like that.
I guess that was being reported.
That was being reported.
That was being reported.
Okay, I'll clarify that that was what was being reported.
I don't know whether that is 100% factored on.
Matt wanted to know about that, right?
Everyone wanted to know about it.
The whole world was talking about that.
But instead of straight up, go to him, Oi, Arnie, did you bonk the nanny, Arnie?
Did you do the nanny?
No.
Instead of, you can't ask Arnie directly that.
You've got people around.
You've got binders.
You've got the man himself.
You've got to be respectful.
So Matt chucked in a question that said, ah, if you could meet your younger self in a
room, is there anything you'd tell them that you'd do differently?
I said this movie.
I said, this movie is about your current terminated going back and saying something to the
younger terminated.
Is there anything you would do differently if you had another chance in terminated?
You could go back in time.
Is there anything?
Is there anything you'd want to go back in time and change anything at bed?
He dodged that via an absolute mile.
Gosh, it was, it was, and he was so lovely.
He was like Neo in the Matrix.
He just leaned back the bullet.
It's just went straight past him.
And on it, well, one, he was the governor, you know, he's also a politician, so absolutely
expert at that.
But I should emphasize how lovely he was in the moment.
And when we went in, they said, oh, you can either get this thing signed or you can take
a photo like you pick.
And we got this guy's terminated pinball thing signed because apparently it doubled the
value of the pinball machine.
And so we got that and we're like, all right, thanks.
We'll go.
And Arnie was like, no, I come back, have a photo like it's fine.
Yes.
I think that he felt like that because he knew that he dodged the question.
Honestly, honestly, I reckon he was like, look, I can't give you that because if he'd
actually answered that, it would have been, like it would have been global news.
There's no way that he's going to give us that information, like us two little radio
heads information like that.
So he knows that he was withdrawing that answer and the truth.
So then he goes, all right, nice try.
And then, but it gives us a little bit of something.
So if he breadcrumbs as a, as a there you go, good work, like nice work trying.
That was what I felt like we got from Arnie that day.
And I was great.
I thought he was a legend.
Yeah, no, I really thought it was great.
So, you know, you got to be in a twin it.
I gave it a shot and Cam from Triple J can thank me for his signed pinball machine.
Well, they say nothing comes for free, Alex Dyson.
No such thing as a free lunch.
No.
But apparently that is going to be extended to nature.
Now in Victoria, you're part of the world's dice.
So the suggestion being put forward that they will be charging visitors to see the twelve
apostles.
Quite interesting stuff.
What do you think, Dyson, being charged to see a little bit of nature.
Don't love it.
I'll be honest with you.
I like Australia.
Right.
I love watching, we've talked about these.
His top things about Australia that I wouldn't know when I'll live in here, you know, one
of them.
You just got these barbecues around the place for free.
Yeah, that's what it is up there, isn't it?
Imagine, you know, imagine taking it taken away.
Sorry, you've got to pay for these.
I think it used to be.
I have to put him 20 cents or 30 cents, but now they just push him on electric barbecues.
Brilliant.
Okay.
Now what else?
I hate going, you know, what I do is a bloody Aussie touring Europe.
I go, guys, what's your deal?
Okay.
What?
50 cents to use the bathroom.
Yeah.
50 euros.
50 euros cents to use the bathroom.
Are you mad?
Right?
In Australia, free dunnings.
Thank you very much.
Getting charged to look at our nature.
I am not loving it, Smarokine.
I mean, 12 apostles, that's in one and that was right in Dyson Territory.
South West Victoria, 40 minutes from Warnable.
They're looking at building a, you know, $50 million or so visitor center.
So where do the funds come from?
You do have to ask that.
But in talking to locals, I think there are better ways that aren't a like turnstile
that you've got to pay 15 bucks for you to walk through and look at these rocks, right?
Because there is proper issues when it comes to, you know, tourists overcrowding and that
sort of thing.
And let's talk about these toilets for a little while.
If you're living on the Great Ocean Road, right, you're at a, you know, an Apollo Bay
or a, or a skiing creek or something like that on the way down.
A lot of people get on a bus in Melbourne, drive down to the 12 apostles on the bus.
They use toilets on the way.
They take some photos of the 12 apostles, they turn around and come back.
The roads, you know, get all these big vehicles going along them, these big buses.
The toilets, cop, you know, 54 adults walking off a bus and just absolutely going to town
on them, right?
You know, if you're at the Apollo Bay public toilets, if you're at Apollo Bay resident,
you're walking in after a couple of bus loads of tourists have had their crack, you
know, you're wondering, and this is the local council rates that you're paying for the
upkeep of these toilets, some of them, given the amount of traffic it goes through, you
need a 24 hour cleaning crew addressing this, only so much, you know, lemon scented duck
in the world that can, could sort out of, you know, a dozen bus loads on a Sunday.
Half the up, the half of Barmy Army between test matches.
Exactly right.
So suddenly you're paying rates, but is there a better way where you go, okay, you're
bringing, you know, tourist people who bring their buses, you got a register and you
apply a $2 fee on a ticket for something like this that can go into it.
So the ratepayers aren't just paying for the roads, paying for the buses, paying for
new parking, it's not the locals who are propping up the tourist industry, but actually
the tourists are contributing to the local industry.
So there's not, there's not a way that you can ensure that tourists, you know, paying
their fair share to make sure that locals aren't paying for the infrastructure with very
minimal benefit, like if they're not stopping at the Port Campbell general store or souvenir
shop and they're just turning around and going straight back to Melbourne, it's like, yeah,
well, why are my rates, you know, my taxes going into all this to make tourists happy
and they're not contributing anything, you know, so there's certainly a way for it, but
I really don't like the idea of having to pay for it.
And I should say these rules, it says, local residents and members of the Eastern Marra
Indigenous community will not have to pay.
So that is good, but 12 apostles are 45 minutes from Warnable, is Warnable, a Warnable
local residence?
Yeah, I don't know.
Is Jolong local, if you're in Jolong, do you have to pay to see the 12 apostles?
Here's a couple of things to send out to me, okay?
The Victorian Environment Minister Steve Demopoulos announced a fee for tourists to visit
the $126 million 12 apostles visitor experience center, $126 million, where is that going?
$126 million, experience center.
What is that?
I'm serious, where is that, like how does that money get spent on any tourist, it's
an natural thing, just put up a shack and a sign that says the 12 apostles, that's all
you need.
Yeah, well, those centers, obviously they're probably trying to sell a few plush koalas
and warm bats in there, you know, try and re-coat a little bit of that, but that is, yeah,
that's the thing.
Lot of money.
You might get people from, particularly this hemisphere, like you might get people coming
from Singapore, coming from China, coming from Japan, going to the visitor center.
And like a lot of that money might be spent in Australia for a hotel in Melbourne, you
know, and so sure, the economy is working well that way, but when it comes to the local
communities, where's the benefit going, yeah?
It says, he says it's not unusual, it's actually fair, given fees are charged at
Uluru, Kakadu, and Kosiosco National Parks, and has mania's cradle mountains.
So I guess that puts them in this realm of things.
Uluru, $38, I believe, for a three-day pass to go see Uluru, do you think it's, I mean,
I've done that, have you done that?
I haven't done Uluru, but I'm just thinking of even Zion National Park in America.
It's a fee to be able to walk around for the day.
Yeah, so I mean, I guess that's fair, people sort of suggest that you can do it.
I'm not against it, I'm just intrigued, that's all, I don't think it's the wrong thing.
Have you seen it?
How much is it worth to you?
Top of Possils.
Priceless.
Absolutely.
Priceless.
Okay, come on.
You know.
Whether it's the Lord of Grandpians, you know, Budsbeam, please start warnable, I mean,
all of it is just, you can't put a price.
Oh my God.
What do you think is a fair price for the 12 apostles?
Be honest.
Well, I want, I want all Australians to be able to go and see it for free.
Yeah, so you just give us a, just give us a fee.
Well, if you're from overseas, you've got to pay five bucks.
Okay, that's fine, yeah, look, let's do it.
Look at it in five hour.
Yeah, it's five bucks and then you've got to pick up a six pack from a local brewery
along the way or a bottle of wine.
It should be your five dollars can be claimed at the front at like a shop along the way
between that sort of, or you go to Bula in Colac and pick up a couple of, you know,
frozen yoghurt little icy poles, or you head down to Tim Boone to Stila rean ice cream
marine, grab a, grab a whiskey in an ice cream.
Yeah, yes, yes, yes.
All right.
Well, we've decided five dollars.
I have been to a LaRue.
I reckon that's worth a hundred bucks.
I mean, think about it.
People go skiing.
Do you know what expensive skiing is in this country?
It's very expensive.
It's like a, it's like a hundred and eighty dollars per day for the, you know, the lift
hire or whatever.
I mean, I'm sure creating boardwalks and all that is up there with that, like, that is true.
I just like, I just wish, you know, if we taxed our resources the same way, yes, that
there's actually another, we have a way to do it.
We'd have a lot of money to be able to provide these services and just give our citizens
a very good life.
Yes.
That would be the way to do it.
Just tax massive corporations more and stop flogging the little people.
Even because David Poecock was, you know, took as big on this independent senator.
And when people write to the politicians who are currently in charge, the mob in charge,
there's a lot of it.
Well, they're, you know, these people do pay tax, but he's like, well, if you're a baker,
if you sell a lot of bread, he's like, yeah, you pay tax on the money you make, but you
don't get the flour for free, which is currently what's happening with the gas, like you don't
just have free flour to get your income.
So anyway, maybe that way we can let Australians enjoy our natural wonders for no money.
Yeah.
And I think Matt, that this podcast is worth at least $25 to download.
No, the amount of entertainment you get out of this, it's up there with, you know, your
book of Mormons, which you're paying hundreds of bucks for.
So the fact we give it away for free, unbelievable, or maybe maybe the top apostles who could
just put a big, big sign on each, on the top of each one, advertising brand, that we
could keep it for free.
Many rights for at least two of them.
Yeah.
Matt, Alex, Bronn.
Perfect.
That's three down.
Thank you very much for listening to us today.
I really appreciate you hanging out once again, if you'd like to get in touch, give us
something to games.
Matt said that Alex, or of course, Matt and Alex.com.au.
See you tomorrow.
Bye-bye.
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