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DZ 9-11-26 PREVIEW | Cowboys-Giants preview, Jared Sandler, and Never Forget

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We hop into a sports discussion as we preview Cowboys-Giants this weekend and you shouldn't forget you have to do the coin toss if you're a captain

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Open: Live from Dallas Fire Fighters Association

Sports: Rams-49ers

Cowboys-Giants preview

Jared Sandler: NCAA and NFL picks

Regional comedian, Jimmy Nelson

News: Iranian group claims credit for AT&T outage

VM Birthdays/Today in History with Heart Attack Man

Closing remarks: Justin the firefighter

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Hey now, what you are about to hear is a free preview of one of this week's premium episodes of The Dumb Zone. If you would like to hear this program in full, along with the full archive, ah shit. If you would like to hear this program in full, with the archive of all of our past episodes, you can subscribe at dumbzone.com. And then they fired, like fired him! Over a typo. Over a, yeah, don't you feel like that isn't a WHO or a... It's insane. I think it was 2020. Insane. Obviously WHO. Do you see the first person, for the first person, who was nailing a player's sister, got his job back? He did? Yeah. No! Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Because I think the player was like, man. She's a slut. You can't fire everybody she sleeps with. I mean, we're gonna have no economy here in San Antonio. If that continues. Anyway, Javante Williams is the bell cow for the cowboys. And I feel like that is a concern.

The running game. But I feel like their thought is Clayton Adams is the running game. And that look what he did with Javante Williams. You didn't think much of him before, right? So, I don't know. But then why do you pay Javante Williams? That's a good point. Why didn't you go out there or other? It's same as like, you think about Kyle Shanahan and you're like, well, this guy's been able to make all these other guys who sucked great. Why did he trade for trade lands? Yeah. Why would they have ever done that? You do, you know, it's not all linear decision making. If there is a position that you can get a guy to go from. I haven't heard of this guy to Holy Shit, he's carrying my fantasy team. It's running back. So, if Amari De Marcato turned around and had a Javante light type season this year because the Cowboys can block in the run game and have a offensive coordinator that's a dog. I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. That's why you have an OC like that.

In the same way that if you have a passing game type oriented OC, you'll have third wide receivers that show up that you've never heard of before that have great years. That's the value of Clayton Adams. Absolutely, they are exposed by Javante's health situation. And if you would allow me without making fun of me, they have a very talented running back who is athletic and can do a lot of different stuff in Lipki. And if you watch what the 49ers do with use check, is use check a guy, I don't even know where they got him. My guess is he was either undrafted or late, but I could be wrong. And if you have a creative offensive plan, you can get those guys involved in a way that they're basically another running back and you don't need. A whole last second running back. That thing they were doing with use check last night, that little motion, that has to be illegal, where he's basically running back towards the line of scrimmage before the ball is snapped. So he kind of runs back to the full back position in the eye, but he never stops.

He just like bends the edge. And it was unstoppable. But if he's out there, they can also give him the ball, so it's not just the blocking tell. I think they have to use Lipki if this is their plan at running back. Otherwise, they should have definitely invested more in a second running back. So you can also get guys though, you know, like that's the one position, right? A couple of what's Z cup to? What is it? Bless, dude. I would literally love to know. That was two years ago. Among all the stories of where is that guy like on this Sunday, I'd love to know. What's he? How much money does he have left? All right, wait, he's 30. You're 40. Would you trade portfolios now with whatever his portfolio is at his age of 40? And your age of 40. Damn, you're making that.

So you got 10 more years of Z being Z. Let me tell you, I think he's not going to be a media guy. He's not going to get in on that. If he makes it to 40. I know this is weird, but I kind of feel like even though I don't think Z equals a professional at his job at all, I think he's kind of a hippie. And I can imagine him living a little bit more of like a, I don't know, he's going to like festivals and stuff. Like he's spending money, but he's not like in the club spending James fucking hard and money where he's like, they're retiring his jersey at a strip club. Do you know what I mean? Like I think Z is hanging out, but I never really saw him as he's tearing your jersey at his club. That's awesome. He's not, I don't think he has any kids. So, All right, a couple of somewhat humorous things and then that'll lead us into some DAC stuff that I didn't know about. This though is my last shot, or the only shot he cut I had, I thought this is just kind of funny because he's talking about the players buying into certain things.

That's what you need, right? So what have the players bought into? I think the cool thing I'll speak to the group is, you know, like the players. I'm so sick of that. Why don't you just talk and we'll tell you if it's cool or not? Don't preface a boring story with this is a cool story. Like there was a fire chief or somebody charged and he was up talking to a room of the boys or men, whatever, and women and he was like, guys, this is a really cool thing about being a firefighter. There's just so much cool stuff that, and that it's a violence-based job, but he talks like a, like an elementary school teacher. I think the cool thing- We're doing some cool stuff in science this week. I think the cool thing I'll speak to the group is, you know, like the players have really bought in tied to the recovery aspect of this, massages, and- Oh yeah? They bought into massage. Oh, look, we want you to get a massage every week. Oh no, no! I don't- I don't want to hear it. Wait, you want me to lie down and relax and enjoy something.

Absolutely not. But somehow, Shoddy's the kind of guy that's able to sell that to the guys and they've really bought in on- What he should have done if he wanted to really be the funny coach has been, like, bought into the massage just not too much. Yeah. Like a little, little, little Cleveland tip. He's not ready to- No. To work that blue. We have Caleb Williams. Nice talking. He's talking to the media. Caleb Downs. Excuse me, Caleb Downs. Okay. Ice Queen. I just need you- Not the Ice Man. Sorry. Caleb Downs is Caleb Downs funny. Well, let's see. Is he this funny? This one, they're talking- They asked him about facing CDLAM and George Pickens in practice. Does that help? You know, that brings out the best in the competition. Yeah. Confidence level wise, that's probably the biggest thing going against the best every day. It's a huge positive for me.

Going into a game like Saturday. I mean, Sunday. I'm still on college time. Going into- Wow. Dwa, dude. Play the game. Why don't you just get on your knees while he's talking. He's positive for me and going into a game like Saturday. I mean, Sunday. I'm still on college time. Going into a game like that. Joe Trayon. It was really funny. And then- And reporter is asking a question here and you're going to hear- We'll continue the game of Is Caleb this funny? I know it was before you were born, but your dad didn't play for the Giants. Did you catch that? Before you were born, but your dad played for the Giants, so he's going to ask, is there any memories? Mm-hmm. Any special memories or conversations that he remembers about his time, that you talked to him about about the Giants? When you got cut. Man, that's what I was saying. Hey, we're fed. Oh gosh. Yes. What if- That was almost like a Kauai ghost tour laugh.

What if we were to play Is Dac Press got this funny? Oh. I know what we've got and we're going to go shoot. You have Brad got a bat for Saturday? Oh, you know what? I didn't really catch the name. He said, do you and so-and-so have a bet for Saturday? So maybe his- Is this the state playing somebody? I know what we've got and we're going to go shoot. You and Brad got a bat for Saturday? Say again. You and Sam four got a bat. I don't even know if we've bet yet. I've just a lot of trash talking. It won't be close though. Bulldogs all the way. That's right. It won't be close. I would kill to have an audience ever react like that to anything. I said it. Opening up for, uh, for, uh, for, uh, gosh. Uh, oh yeah, for Jimmy, um, next week in Dac Press got. And then, uh, finally, I wanted to lead you to Clayton Adams. I don't like that bit. What? Let's find out who Mississippi State is playing and see if another cowboy on the team played at that other college and just ask him about a bet. You and Brev?

Got bet. Oh, I didn't even think about calling him Brev. You and Brev got a bet, this, uh, uh, just talking ball with this other millionaire. Just me and, uh, It really is. And this is, I think this is the thing about like, trying to write jokes is that there's things that we experience that we're, we're like, this is normal that doesn't exist anywhere else in society. The idea that there's a guy who makes $50 million a year. And this group of people who make 30 to 50 K, just stay in there and ask him questions. And part of his job is he has to answer them. There's nowhere else in society where this dynamic exists. These people have no business interacting. Well, you think fucking Howard Lutnik or some guy from Wall Street is ever talking to, like Henry? Right. Like they, they, they, they send 23 year old and they just stay in there and talk to like the most famous, richest people in our culture. It's the strangest interaction, but it, it's, it's,

cringe, I think is the word. By the way, six a year for a backup tied in, they signed BSF for 18. BSF. Yeah, that's, uh, I call him Brev. That is if, if you want to get into it a little bit, you saw it last night. Um, it's the rise, not only of 12, but 13. We're, uh, we're playing two tight ends way more now than ever before. And McVeigh and Shanahan are leading the charge. I'd be surprised if Flanoi gets paid. I mean, I guess that'll come down to a pick and sting, but at some point you only have so many guys that you could have, you know, ancillary roles that are making money and, uh, their, the school makers obviously don't. Yeah, he's obviously gone, but Brev and span forward blocks. And you want two guys out there that can both block and catch so that when you're running your normal Shanahan and McVeigh offense, you know where the Rams were screwed last night was when they, it was like third, eight, third and 10. Now that's obvious, but they can no longer just play two tight ends at that point.

Dallas looks at him like a starter now. Yeah, I'm just trying to talk myself into how can we bring George Pickens back? And by paying over 10, 12, 13 million a year for our tight ends is not a way to do that. For somebody will be gone if Pickens is back, right? You're losing somebody of value, but you're keeping him. And then leading us to the final thing about deck Clayton Adams was talking. And I just found this interesting and I think I really like it. And that's just a different one, kind of play call for a quarterback. You guys have a mindful of how long it is, how many words it is that they have to get out? 100%. Yeah, and specifically because, you know, Dack I think is pretty prideful about not wanting to be a guy that has a wristband. He wants to really be able to verbalize the play call and he wants to own it. And he works very, very hard at that. And so we try to shorten the the verbiage as much as you can. Now, you also get greedy because, you know,

I guess it's in college football now, but it didn't used to be when I was coaching there. Is you're giving it to him directly in his headset. So sometimes you're throwing something on there that's, you know, like, hey, want to make sure that the tight end knows what he's doing here. I want to make sure that the back knows what he's doing here because there's new ons to it. We tried to get those things assumed as much as we can. So basically though, it was that I never thought of it before. Yeah. But I haven't seen him with the arm band thing. The play is on his arm. And when you do see that, don't you kind of in your head, like, does this guy, you know, oh, he's new. He's got to have his note. It's a comedian on stage with their notes, right? Yeah. It's like, I don't, I wonder if it's a, I don't think of it. I don't think of it as a crutch or as a new guy, just because I've seen like Tom Brady wear one, you know, yeah. But at the same time, since you said it, that's exactly what I was about to reference. If you are just, if you can, it's like memorizing or learning a language,

right? The only way to be fully in command is to remove. Like, it means to me, the safety, he lives it. 100%. This is his whole thing. This is why he doesn't need to look at a thing. If I said the play, he knows the play and he could tell me where to go and all like, that's confidence. It's awesome. You know, inspire you would think that might trickle out into the guy's he's calling the play for. Yeah, he, this is pretty much like this. Um, right. You know, he's not reading something. He's just looking in the eye, telling you it. Yeah, he's in command. And maybe that helps when you've been here a decade and you're kind of running the same stuff. You know, year after year, which is tweaks. But MVP? Well, I've got my MVP vote already in, although he got paid too. But I feel like Baker now has a feeling like he's going to prove the reason that they paid him. There's always a narrative. Yeah. Do you want to look at the giants for just a second? I was just looking at their um, football, Almanac.

Where did you have the giants this year? Where'd you guys? An afterthought? Okay. Yeah, we're we're talking yesterday, right? Is Harbaugh overrated? Is he like what did Harbaugh? Did Harbaugh build the Ravens in his image or was Harbaugh like brought in the Ravens are, Ravens are always thought of as a, they're like the Steelers. They're in a real tight, good organization that has a way they do things because they are, you know, it's not the Cowboys where why have they had four defensive systems in four years because they don't really have a way they do things. They hire a guy and then bring in the way you do things, you know. And Harbaugh's had very good record over the years. It's probably somewhere in the middle of this. But it's Tomlini, you know, it's right. You would have to see Tomlini go somewhere else. We've never seen another Steelers coach go somewhere else.

And we saw McCarthy go somewhere else and Green Bay was thought of as kind of one of those organizations, right? And he did very well here at least. But so did the next guy. I hate seeing Tomlini do TikToks for NBC. He's doing TikToks? Oh yeah. He's doing video him and yeah, he does the little dance with Garrett. And Maria Taylor and the whole bunch like that's, I don't know, like what we said the past three years. The two coaches who you at least in your head say, hey, they'd do a TikTok dance. Let's put them together. Why not go get the, what's his name back? The Tony Dungee. Like it's not who used to be on that show. All the, all the electric coaches of our youth. Arvel Reese. They got a lot of good players, dude. I'm just saying I've not, I'm not looking at them as a team I'm worried about. At least this year. At least this year. I mean, the, the Almanac does point out Harbaugh didn't really get to assemble the coaching staff

that he wanted. And that might be like a. Did Matt Nagy, the OC? Matt Nagy is their OC. He wanted Todd Munkin. But after the Browns kind of ran through 10 possibilities, they finally got down on their list and they found Todd Munkin, who is Todd Munkin, announced this week. There will be no captains for the Browns this year. It's going to be a week to week thing. Feels like something you can do if you're anyone but the Browns. Well, no, it feels like it's safe. It feels like you have to do it if you're the Browns because who would you name as Captain? You just traded Miles Garrett. And then, oh, well, maybe it should be our quarterback. I don't know. It gets your door up there. Like, who's the captain of the Browns? Who would you say is their leader? They don't even have Joe Thomas anymore. Like, who's... Honestly, I saw this interview during the preseason. They made Shadura captain for a game and he forgot to do the coin toss. There you go. He forgot to go out there.

They're in tough spot.

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