E1087 - Heather Shaw Talks Love Is Blind, Traitors Finale/Reunion, RHOBH, Actor Awards & Jim Carrey's Clone

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Valfaul's Reality

Recap Edition. I'm your host, Nick Join, by the household, my lovely wife,

my magical wife.

Okay, sure, magical wife, magical. Guys, we went out last night, the SAG Awards.

The Actors Awards. The Actors Awards. Yeah, presented by SAG After.

Yeah, they changed the name this year. When Netflix, well, when Netflix officially took it,

I think they transitioned to the Actors Awards, because I think a lot of people don't know,

like union names as well, and don't know what SAG is. So, actor awards makes more sense.

We are invited because we are part of the Netflix family.

And it was so funny, because we pull up and we did not attend the awards.

We had to put our daughter asleep, unfortunately. We were also not invited.

We were also not invited.

But so we called an Uber, went to this event, and they pull up to the thing.

And I've never been a part of this before, but the guy rolls down the window,

or the woman rolls down the window, and the security guards come up to her, and they're like,

are you chauffeur? She's like, no, I'm Uber, and I'm just dropping them off.

And they're like, okay, we'll have the dog search your car.

I'm sorry. Never in my life have I seen that.

To the further, like, the golden globes, or the Oscars, or the parties,

like, I mean, with the high profile people that attend,

excluding us. They search.

They search. They search in vehicles, you know, the mirrors, and the cars, and the dogs.

So they were like, do you have your past? So Nick showed them the past that we have.

It says, like, chauffeur parking pass, or whatever.

They're like, so are you talent? And we're like, yeah.

And they're like, but you're in an Uber, and we're like, yeah,

like, sorry, that's just confusing.

We're car.

We upgraded.

I don't know, because, like, Polly isn't driving us.

Which one's more unrealistic that I counterfeit this past directly,

or that I just took an Uber, but I didn't come from the event.

And like, and then I kept wanting to, like, he's like, so you're

talent. And I'm like, Nick and I are like, yeah, we are March 11th.

Just pull up the trailer.

Just pull up the trailer.

We're like, our Netflix talent.

Do you see this?

Yeah, we are just one day more than a week away.

That's a weird way of saying one day more than a week away.

March 11th, age of attraction releases on Netflix.

I'm so excited.

So we are Netflix talent.

So we did go to the after party.

And we did run into, if y'all remember a few episodes ago,

we talked about maybe there's a name.

Was it last week?

I think it was last week.

It was last week.

Last week we talked about there's maybe an actor's name that we were like

wanting to potentially use as inspo for one of our daughter's names.

And this is an actor.

Because, uh, actor with what?

Well, I'm just saying it could be a man.

It could be a woman.

Oh, yes, gender neutral.

You know, when you love a general, when we love a general neutral,

a general neutral, a general neutral.

A general neutral.

Can't talk, apparently, river is more of a boy's name than a girl's name.

That's who.

We don't care.

Interesting.

Yeah, that's who.

Anyway, so yeah, anyway, so we ran into said actor.

And I was like, no, but first, I mean, we were at, we were at this party.

We ran into a few people we don't know.

But this is a lot of like us and Natalie standing at a table.

Like ran into is crazy, seeing out of like,

seeing at the next table over, K Hudson, not running into.

But seeing her, being in the same room as her,

yeah, it's a lot of Natalie.

I was standing at a table, you know, having a conversation with each other.

I mean, like, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Yeah.

Oh, my god, I'm so too quick.

There's Michael be Jordan.

There's Michael be Jordan.

But I was like, Natalie, that's them that they're, that they're, they're, they're

right there.

Like we could ask them, but they were talking to a lot of people.

They were like in the back of, they were seated in a, in a couch,

like this, like facing the party surrounded by people.

So it wasn't like a we could go up, tap a shoulder,

you know, like approachable.

We don't want to do the whole thing

when they're eating, you know, sorry,

for extra interrupting your meal.

So we're like, we'll just wait till maybe

they'll hit the dance floor, they'll need a drink, you know,

but we had this, we were gonna deem them, you know,

we're like, this is so much better of a story.

And then Natalie told me, my brusting.

And I was like, I need a mint.

And then I was like, oh my God, I'm getting lightheaded.

I need to sit down.

So then I'm next like, there's couch.

Let's go sit down on the couch.

And then I said, reserve for Jason Bateman.

And I was like, well, it was surrounded

by security guards like we're moving.

Okay.

So I was like, I don't know, I don't need to be the like woman

who's like, I'm pregnant.

I'm gonna sit in Jason Bateman's couch

and like wait for him to get here.

I would support it.

Then we did venture to the bathroom

where I said, you know what, there is a safe seat

in the bathroom and it is sitting on the toilet.

So I'm gonna go and I'm gonna sit down

on the bathroom to rest my feet for a moment.

And so we did that.

And when we come out next like,

they're right there.

They're right there.

Literally, fate of like-

Just us.

Was about to leave,

grabbing a pop-up bagels to go order of dessert, whatever.

And I was like, this is my moment.

I have to ask.

And so I did.

And we got the blessing.

Oh my God.

We got the blessing.

And so our poor other twin is gonna be like,

what?

What about me?

That's the thing, we don't, I don't, you know.

How do you feel about Lindsey Lohan?

And now I'm approachable.

Is Ms. Liz.

Wait, guys, all you have to do is just go to another one

of these events.

Yeah.

And just check the guest list before.

So you feel like any Lenin.

Mandy Moore?

Mandy Moore's Q.

Mandy Moore's Q.

Maybe Ryan Murphy?

Have y'all seen the trend of like names

that are other things but would be beautiful

as like children?

Just like Viagra.

Climidia?

Yes.

Climidia.

Beautiful.

Rolls off the tongue.

Rolls off the tongue.

Where is that Italian?

What is that?

Just feel like once you know the definition,

just in no matter how beautiful an accent it could be.

Climidia, think about, remove what it is and think

Climidia.

Phenetically, it's a beautiful name.

Say what your eyes close.

Yeah.

Climidia.

What about Ghanaia?

Ghanaia.

You would be so surprised, my mom works in schools

and these names are names of kids that she's met.

Yeah.

Like there's a lot of names that parents will just think

they sound pretty or a little read it on paper

and think it's pretty.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

That's very common.

Speaking of Ryan Murphy.

Has anybody watched Love Story?

No.

No.

But I need to.

I started watching it this weekend and I just feel like

I've experienced such an epic failure having waited so long

to start this as it came out last month, right before Valentine's

Day.

The way that this show is shot is like it feels like it's a show

straight out of the 90s.

It's giving sex in the city.

It's giving romance.

It's giving New York.

It's giving longing.

The man who plays John F. Kennedy Jr.

Sooon.

Carolyn Bassett character.

She's phenomenal.

I want long hair.

I want to flip it over on a constant.

I even want to start smoking again.

But yeah.

We smoking, having to come back and I make so sad.

I know.

But continue.

Sorry.

It just looks so cool.

Kids are falling for it.

They're falling for it.

They are.

I did it the first go around.

We're not drinking anymore.

No, they're doing both.

Sorry.

We're doing both.

We're doing both.

There was like I bought some kids beer the other day.

I got pack of reds in my back pocket.

No, you guys.

Sorry.

I'm a pastor's daughter.

Cut all that.

Maybe.

But yeah.

No, I didn't watch it for a while because obviously it was a

Ryan Murphy's an executive producer and I kind of have a weird

relationship with his biopics.

I feel like he takes a lot of liberties.

You were worried that he was going to have the two leads make

out with their siblings.

I was like 100% like I was just like I didn't know where we were

going in the sense of like if we're going to do an accurate telling

but it's based off of a book series and the creators and writers.

He's just an executive producer but like I would slap my name on

that too because this project is phenomenal and I just I highly

recommend it.

Well, he needs something good.

I currently have beef with Ryan Murphy.

Oh, personal beef.

What's your beef?

Personal beef.

Here's what happens.

So Ryan Murphy obviously doing the next season of American horror

story.

It's going to be a return to cup.

Right?

I'm excited.

I'm excited.

Which is huge.

However, John Waters who I do have if you are on video on my

desk right here, love that man is going to be in it.

And here is what I just would like to say.

Instead of giving Ryan Murphy a budget to do all of his stuff

that's maybe sometimes good, give them money to John Waters

so he can make a weird movie with Aubrey Plaza.

That's all I have to say.

All right.

I like it.

That is very personal.

I know.

That is very versatile.

But I just needed to say that.

If you know, you know.

And I don't.

Well, we have a great episode lined up for you all today.

We have stand up comedian Heather Shaw joining us.

She is absolutely hilarious.

And a big love is blind traders and Beverly Hills fans.

So she's watching it all.

So she is with us to help break down a lot of the TV that we

watched over the weekend and a lot to talk about with

my favorite line of the weekend.

Which was.

I'm going to have a beautiful house in Florida.

A potential trust in Dubai.

Of course.

And a safe house in New Zealand.

And the wife and kids might not be here.

But I will have one of those.

No, he does.

Ashley's great.

But in five years, I see myself with a better wife.

Literally.

He didn't say better.

But he was like.

Probably.

Yeah.

Probably Brunette.

It was a dry, dark feature.

My favorite tweet I saw about was about Alex being like.

That's an incredibly smart way to say you're unemployed.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every time you talk.

But he said it was such confidence.

He says everything was such confidence.

And I don't believe a word of it.

He's got three drop-off versus different states.

He talks like a 17 year old.

Like that's how I, you know, in 17, you're like, you know,

you know, in five years, I'm going to drive a BMW.

But why does he need a safe house?

Also, I thought about this because like.

Because the world goes to shit.

Yeah.

That's what I assume he means.

And, you know, every once in a while is a family man that I am now.

And, you know, kids, I, in the state of the world sometimes gets a little scary for sure,

even though I try not to be a doomsday type of person.

But I always think to myself, what if.

Would you go bunker?

Would you go panic room?

Oh, boy.

Well, I'd go layhouse.

I'd go claustrophobic.

It's, it's, it's.

But I thought, you know, like the layhouse would probably, we would make our last stand at the layhouse.

It's, it's, it's.

Well, you could like trap someone on the lay.

You know what I mean?

But I'll, but my, but every time I thought about this, I'm like, man, that layhouse is.

It's kind of far away.

That is true.

You know, like what happens?

I don't know when I, I don't know when I'm going to need said, we got to go to the place,

you know, the safe house.

You're the place that people find in like season four that's been like untouched.

But how is Alex getting to New Zealand?

Yeah.

Is that kind of far away for a place?

Right.

If doomsday is happening, like, what are you going to board a flight and head on out?

Hey, things are getting really bad.

Let me catch a flight.

You know, you're going to pick the longest for hours.

Then he's got to go to Dubai.

Well, here's the thing.

He has a lot of his ex girlfriends all over.

So they'll let him know early.

Or current girlfriends.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They'll let him know early and then he can get to the bunker.

Maybe two in the same month.

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We have our reality recap, deep dyes where we deep dive your favorite episodes.

Obviously, we would really get into the love is blind that evolved because we can't possibly cover every

granular detail of the two episodes that we watched.

Justin really wants to talk about Toy Story 5.

So that's you're going to see that in there.

Yeah, he talked about that.

Yeah.

Yeah, we talked about Valley person style too.

Yeah, a little bit.

We get it.

We get it all.

So I check it out.

I'll see your pop extra episodes where we talk about all your favorite pop culture topics

like us being at the actors awards.

Did you see that La Roche confirmed the red carpet that Tom Holland and Zendaya are marrying?

I'm obsessed.

Allegedly.

I love Roche.

I mean, it's going from La Roche.

I love Roche.

I love Roche.

I love Roche.

I was a bit.

Yeah.

But not a rumor.

Yeah.

But like how chic of Zendaya to be like, I know.

Guys, I don't need to make an announcement.

I don't need to post.

I'm like, sure.

Law.

If you're on a red carpet, feel free to let us know.

There's something so perfect about the way that he was just like, you missed it.

Yeah.

Just like, do better at your jobs, guys.

Take it embarrassing.

Like, oh, you're still waiting.

Oh, really?

Already married.

Well, she already did.

Yeah.

Honestly, though, not a single paparazzi or anything of like a tent from above.

Right.

You know, it was so chic too.

I saw a photo.

Maybe it was.

You did.

I mean, it's your photo.

Of their wedding?

Yeah.

Like they met the old.

What?

You did.

I feel like we talked about AI.

I was like, there's also a movie that she sent where she's getting married.

Oh, to Robert Pattinson.

A Robert Pattinson.

Yeah.

That's a movie.

No.

Was it Robert Pattinson?

Well, Robert Pattinson.

And again, I didn't spend a lot of time analyzing it.

It probably was fake.

But I did.

I did see it.

Was it grainy?

Yeah.

Did it look like Big Thug?

I don't know.

Did you guys.

There.

There.

There.

There.

There.

I feel like it's AI.

They're the best.

Let me see.

Well, there's a bunch.

And some of them.

They're in different countries.

Yeah.

No.

This is none of those of them.

Oh, that's the one I saw.

To talk on that, though, for a second.

Oh, my God.

Real Housewives of Orange County.

Gina.

Gina.

I just saw a post this morning that she was talking about because I guess on Facebook, people use

Facebook AI.

And they make these like completely fake stories.

I don't even know how this.

They're illegal.

But they put out there that like Gina announced her pregnancy.

And she was like, it's absolutely 100% false.

And they did that with Shannon Bedor recently.

Her boyfriend.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

They changed a photo that she's in with Vicki.

Put a man next to her and her like flashing up an engagement ring.

And it's not even a photo that actually exists.

Yeah.

No, it's, I mean, I am still an avid Facebook user.

I do like to keep up with.

It's the most bizarre thing about you.

I have to say.

I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

I love Facebook.

I'm getting logged on to my Facebook.

And the last people I'm trying to keep up with, it's the thing.

It's the thing on Facebook.

Okay.

Sometimes I it's like it's I cut out TikTok a while ago.

Like Facebook is.

It would probably have asked me to log.

Do your hardrope out.

Because honestly, that's like a whole world.

I left behind.

No, it's like, oh my god.

There.

Park that.

And I love that a lot of them are still like interacting on Facebook just like they did before.

Because like right.

Most generations don't, you know, I want to bring back Facebook album.

Facebook albums.

Like, when I go on a trip and you have like 75 to a hundred photos, and I literally want

somebody to create an app, maybe I'll do it, where you literally just have like albums.

It seems so high-risk.

Like, you do a little face-tune and then you post the whole album and it's like, wait,

that one was in there.

I was like, the Facebook albums used to terrify me because if you get tagged in like

five of them and you're scrolling through and you know one of them, it's like, I'm

like in the background and I'm just like, oh, and that's going to live there forever?

Nobody safe.

My favorite thing about Facebook albums is like, because I never had Facebook, I can never

use it, but my siblings did.

And so there's kind of like random parts of my like really special moments of my entire

childhood that's just like in shitty Facebook albums on a digital camera from 2006 when

my sister was in high school.

Yes.

And it's like the sweetest thing in the whole world.

It feels so warm.

I also would love to be poked.

You know, like, I just want to go in a poke war with someone.

Yeah, bring that poking.

Bring that.

I know.

I never Facebook mobile, but like, I'm aware of what poking is, but I didn't really know

what it was.

I was like, it was like a one-on-one flirt.

Yeah.

I've never heard of it.

Is the new, what is the new version of poking?

Is it liking it?

Like an insertory?

Like an insertory?

Like an insertory is the new poking.

Yeah.

Definitely like an insertory.

But also, like, my flirting every time I like a thing.

No.

No, you're not flirting every time you like a story, but you're flirting sometimes when

you like a story.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's true.

Yeah.

I think I'm going to see what we're going to say.

I was just like, really thinking through this.

I'm like, I really want them to bring back.

I know we have Facebook mobile, like, on our phone, but it's truly Facebook in every

sense.

But I'm like, can they bring that Facebook mobile that's just like, it's just like lots

of photo albums, poking, maybe stories, and like, and like status updates.

Like, I just kind of want that, but I don't want everything else that comes.

I don't want marketplace.

I don't want it.

I love marketplace.

I love marketplace too.

I love marketplace too.

I love marketplace too.

Me too.

Yeah.

But separately, I'm like, I feel like Facebook needs social.

I feel like social.

Yeah, like bring back the bring back like Facebook social.

I kind of want to be prompted.

I remember like, remember when Facebook first started, it's like Sierra is and it's like

Curly.

Yeah.

On AIM, find me.

You'd be like, I like for a TBA.

I'm in the market for a flip phone.

Me too.

You're trying to go off the grid.

I think so.

At the lake house off the grid with a flip phone.

I see that for you.

I truly believe that our phones are in the internet is just like us tapped into the

matrix.

But I bring up Facebook because that happens all the time.

Like I will be scrolling.

I'm looking at, you know, my kids I grew up with in the neighborhood, what they're up

to these days.

And then it'll be like, oh, Jason Tartick and his girlfriend Catherine are expecting

their third baby.

And it like shows a picture with and I'm you're like, oh my god, wow, it's crazy.

And then it reminded me of when Chambliss texted us the picture that AI made of us.

Oh, yeah.

And it is so who is your husband?

Who are you?

Oh my gosh.

Like, it's not, it's none of our faces.

Oh, wow.

Like, oh, wow, that's crazy.

It's so scary.

It's a like guy with a beard.

And he's wearing, I mean, they kept her clothes.

That's wild.

It's crazy because it's, it is your name.

Like, you know what I mean?

It's not even like they're like, oh, couple in other country experiences, they're like,

no, it's Nicki Minaj.

Like they couldn't even use our, like our faces.

It's like, who is she?

Yeah.

But there's like elements that kind of, it's weird.

It's almost like, you got a better, she's more attractive than him.

That just like is not you.

Like I've seen that man before and he's not.

I know.

Yeah.

He's like every other.

No, he is attractive.

Yeah.

I feel like they had so many options of photos they could have used for us.

Yeah.

But I guess.

I don't know.

Anyways, I want to flip.

I do too for sleeping in my bedroom without, like, what is it?

Radiation.

I'm just pretty, I'm pretty, I'm, I'm pretty decent about, like, limiting myself on my,

on the internet.

But like, I'm as addicted as the next person.

So you're down to go back to T9 texting.

I just, you know, no, my favorite era of the internet was Blackberry, just a little bit

of internet access.

Right.

You could play, you could play like mail.

I definitely, I definitely need an navigation system because I've, you know, it's not my

hometown.

I don't know.

Even L.A.

I've been here for 12 years.

It's like, where?

Let's read.

So I don't, I'm not trying to be off the fucking grid.

I just like don't need unlimited access to just garbage.

Yeah.

Do they still make Blackberries and if so, are they like updated to compete with iPhones?

I don't think Blackberry, I don't think what's the company that made Blackberry.

Blackberry.

No.

Motorola.

No.

Motorola.

And I don't need to spread misinformation, but I did see an article that said dementia rates

are rising between people in, like, late 30s through their 40s.

Like early, as a dementia, or Alzheimer's, see this where I'm like, I don't know the details,

but they're attributing it to social media and I'm like, it makes so much sense when

you think about it.

Like, test scores are, I mean, everyone's dumber.

People refuse to read.

It nothing frustrates me fucking more than I read somebody's caption and it gives all

the information.

And then I see the comments that are like, what is this from?

Where is this?

And it's like, for fuck's sake, it's a paragraph.

Read.

Okay.

I actually found weaker social ties are linked to an increased dementia risk and they're

calling it like digital dementia, because people are like interacting with technology,

right?

We're not trading your brain to like, you know, consume content over a period of time,

be analytical about it.

Everyone's like arguing with their friends and it's always like, you just, you just watch

the fucking TikTok, you know?

Yeah.

I definitely feel lighter having had not had TikTok for a few months.

Like, I definitely am like, wow, this feels like, I feel, yeah.

But yeah, I don't, I'm not trying to go off the grid, but I definitely, like, my current

setup, our current setup, I just don't think is the best approach, you know, just like

having, like, I just think you have to create guardrails.

I also think the future is, I think we're going to have a renaissance, like, people need

to like, you know, group parties, you know, neighborhood parties, like, you know, people

need to get out.

It's because they make going outside cool again.

Well, I think it is.

So a really funny thing happened to me this weekend on Saturday where a UPS truck crashed

into a fire hydrant on my own stories.

Yeah.

And there was like this huge guy.

I was okay, right?

Oh, yeah.

Everyone's fine.

It was just, yeah.

A bunch of fire trucks came.

It was awesome.

No, honestly, it was kind of awesome.

Everyone was fine.

It was super hot outside.

Like, everyone from the neighborhood came out to like, giggle and watch it and watch like

all the fire trucks come.

And it was like, everyone was taking videos and just like, grabbing a chitchatting.

And honestly, it was like me and my neighbors were like, laughing with each other about

it, being like, what the hell is this?

Because the UPS driver ran away.

And it was just like the most like in my, I don't know, have you guys ever ran away?

Yeah.

We think he did call the fire.

He just drove away.

He just drove away.

No, have cameras on it.

It was a UPS truck.

I mean, that's, I don't care.

Like, he ran away on foot or no, like he drove away.

And there was just this guy.

Anyway, it's fine.

Like, it got fixed.

It's okay.

Like, everyone's fine.

It was fun.

But you were like, wow.

It was the first time I've been outside with all of my neighbors.

It was just like, honestly, it felt like, have you guys seen like the beginning of

do the right thing, the Spike Lee movie, where it's just like hot and there's this like

community.

And they're all outside.

Yeah.

And it just like, it felt like my childhood in a way.

And it was just really sweet.

That sense of community in like neighborhoods is something that I feel like has gotten so

lost.

Yeah.

And it just felt really nice to just interact with my neighbors in that way over like a shared

communal thing.

No, no.

Yeah.

It reminds me of when we lost power.

And we were like, it was like, the sun was going down like it was about to get really dark

in our house.

And like our block had lost power.

This is over the summer.

Yeah.

Over the summer.

And so we were outside.

And everyone was kind of, yeah, just kind of like coming to our driveway to like talk

about the power outage and be like, oh, and do you have this and do you have that?

And we got some lanterns.

If you want lanterns, then it was like, oh, in our kit.

If you want a babysitter, we get we are my 14 year old is taking babysitting glasses.

And it was like, wow, look at us, everyone.

That's so cute.

This is so cute.

Just like nice and sweet.

And talk to your neighbors, guys.

Talk to your neighbors.

Good night.

Good night.

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Heather, welcome to show.

Hey, queer.

How are you doing?

We're doing well.

Incredible.

Incredible.

Elliot.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I'm excited to be here, man.

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I'm doing good.

How are you guys doing?

We are watching a ton of TV.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hang it out, you know.

Great.

What were your first thoughts of trader finale?

I don't know.

Of course, it's the Hawkeye.

Yeah.

I mean, I loved it though.

I mean, we knew it was Rob,

but I loved that the guy that was wrangling snakes

turned out to be a snake.

That was good.

I think the entire cat.

Can we swear on here?

Can I say, uh, dick?

No, dick, yeah, for sure.

I mean, you have one.

It'd be weird if, yeah.

I think that the entire cast and crew

was dick-matized by Rob.

Yeah, yeah.

Fairly.

I mean, he's a good looking guy.

They were dick-matized by that guy.

He could do anything.

I think pretty privileged is the greatest privilege.

Rob definitely had it.

Truly.

For sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, it turns out like if I kill myself for Rob,

he might love me.

And honestly, worth it.

It's worth it.

Worth it, yeah.

The way I was screaming at the television,

thinking that Mora was going to figure it out,

that she was like, she's so close.

So close, and she's like, it just, it can't be Rob.

I'm like, why?

Why can't it be Rob?

Yeah.

Yeah, she made it seem like it was

the most impossible thing.

It was so possible.

Yeah, that was crazy.

I just love it.

He's a pretty man.

And then the switchup of Eric,

her packed with Tara,

being like, we're going to vote out Eric.

And then she still didn't vote out.

Eric, it's like, oh my god, frustrating.

But you know, it was, he was a great person.

I think even Alan Cumming liked him.

Yeah, in the name of the game.

Everyone wanted his ass.

It was great.

Oh, Heather, I have a question.

As a, as a drag race fan,

which Alan Cumming outfit was your favorite?

Oh my god, girl, don't ask me that.

They were all beautiful.

I like the banquet.

I just like him in the banquet as is.

What it was insane.

He just got to be so dramatic.

He was a dramatic gay,

living his best life,

being like, it was you, Gam Jam.

You know, I mean, that was the best.

It was gorgeous.

But yeah, I mean, he got to,

he got to be super dramatic.

I love it.

Did you also watch the reunion?

I didn't watch the reunion.

You didn't miss much.

I didn't feel like it.

I thought it was great.

What's going on there?

Everyone says it's a waste.

Yeah, it was, it was mostly Candace

and Lisa trying to make a thing

of Rob winning it by himself, you know,

and it was like trying to force Rob to own it,

which was like, what do you mean own?

It's like, he won.

I thought it was, I like the reunion.

My, well, the one part of the reunion I really love was.

Andy's overalls.

Andy's overalls were great.

No, it was Porsche.

They were not.

It was Porsche talking to Mama Kelsey

and saying, thank you, Mama.

Mama, Mama.

She was like,

you're wrong and it was awesome.

That's so funny.

I love that Ron Funches, when he going in,

he didn't know how dumb Porsche is.

I love Porsche, but, you know,

she thought the Underground Railroad had trains.

Yeah, so he didn't understand that like what she's saying

could maybe just be not the truth.

It's just her being kind of silly.

You know, she's a little dumb.

It's fun.

I love Porsche.

She's beautiful.

We don't have to be smart.

Speaking of Porsche,

did you watch the trailer for new Atlanta housewives?

Yes.

Yes.

And she's dipping her toes.

I'm ready.

She's dipping her little toes until...

Yes, girl, getting that lesbian water.

Oh, yeah.

Just drinking it up.

And she's just like trying to change it up.

I love, she's got a stud.

She does have a suit.

I'm all about it.

I think it's fun.

I think it's great.

Also on the reunion I saw,

I did see clips of Michael Rappaport.

Like, what's the vibe?

Is everyone really hate him?

I don't know.

I know he's kind of...

I think from the cast.

He's kind of fun.

I'm a fan.

We've had him on the show.

He's kind of funny.

Yeah, I mean, he's a self-pull claims shit starter.

He, like, he...

Yeah, I think he's...

He's good for 10 minutes and then get him out of there

is how I feel.

Yeah, they were clearly annoyed by him.

Yeah, I don't think anyone on the cast is...

Yeah, I don't think he's...

Yeah.

Why don't think he, like, came in with open arms...

He wasn't there to make friends.

Nobody rides harder for Michael Rappaport

than Michael Rappaport.

Yeah.

And I think that's kind of what gets to think.

The cast is that it's, like,

stop talking about yourself,

stop defending yourself.

We're talking about somebody else now.

I could see why it would be exhausting

being in the castle with him.

Yeah, it's like...

Because I feel like that was his whole take in the reunion.

It was just, like, him defending himself

when nobody was asking him to.

I feel like he sucks up and traders.

He sucked up all the energy in the room.

It's just, like, you can't make a show

like that when somebody is doing that.

When he kept yelling out, Clip.

Yeah.

Clip!

That's very fun.

It's the same, but it's fun.

And Durin does right there

near regenerator of sex.

Well, I know.

But he also just doesn't care.

And I kind of love that.

Yeah.

I saw Rob did a speaking of being hot.

He, uh, GQ did a little, uh,

GPs on him, which he looked great.

And then, but I saw he identified himself

as extremely polarizing.

Rob?

Yeah.

What?

Which I was like, I found to be very interesting.

Well, yeah.

Right?

Because like, you know, I was like,

few.

I don't think I've seen a man be more palatable

to the masses than Rob Rouse.

Well, he thinks he's polarizing,

which I thought was just fascinating

that that's his perception of himself,

which like just kind of reminds you

that like, we no longer live in an age

where people are like universally beloved,

you know, with the internet being what it is.

Like, everyone has a group of haters.

And that algorithm will feed you

with that group of hate.

We'll show it to you.

Like, if you haven't opened up TikTok in a while,

and you're like in your public figure of any kind,

you'll open it to, you know why you're a fucking asshole,

you know, type of thing?

It's a wild thing.

I haven't seen anyone hate Rob.

Yeah.

Neither.

Well, I haven't either.

For my, for my POV, he's universally beloved.

But I imagine like, you know,

I've seen things where he's like, he is,

you know, people are getting hate

when you see them defending themselves in the comments.

And Rob has been fairly busy

in the comments this season.

So he is definitely being criticized

by some section of the internet.

Probably some housewives fans.

Sure.

Yeah.

I was also going to say those, like,

the small amount of negative comments

he's probably not used to receiving from sad fans.

I'm like,

what's small?

You know what I'm saying?

It's the same way that you can have 100 great comments

and three bad comments

and the three bad comments will stick out to you.

That is fascinating.

That's how he feels, right?

We're all watching Rob being like,

everyone loves you, man.

Like, how did you do it?

I was going to say the only polarizing thing he said

for me was at the end when he was like,

yep, I'm just going to take my money,

get myself a house, live quiet life.

And I was like, bitch, you're going to be on GQ.

Yeah.

I'm not going to be able to get Sonic commercial.

I'm not going to be able to get away from you.

Yeah.

Let's see if you can see the stars.

You know, it's how to play that stick.

He's got it.

And that's the thing is it's like truly a stick.

Like, and I think me,

the part of me that is like, he's a little polarizing.

Like, I sit here watching it.

And I'm like, I have been personally victimized by you.

One of these people before.

You know what I mean?

And so it's like, I can sit here and objectively be like,

no, there's no malice, no bad feeling.

I think he's so fun to watch.

I was rooting for him to win until the end,

kind of, because then I felt bad.

But it's like, I feel like I have personally experienced this.

And so watching from the outside,

you're just like, you want to shake Mara

and you're just like, what are you doing?

How are you just blinded?

Blinded.

I've been there.

Yeah, but it's frustrating.

And it's like, it like, it affects me.

And so I will say like, yes, I can objectively be like,

no, hey, to Rob.

But I'm also like, no, you're a terror.

And you're what's wrong with you.

You've ruined a lot of women's lives, haven't you?

Yes.

And men in your same font have done the same to me, you know?

So it's, it is.

Or he's just kind of like, I just oops.

Yeah, he's like, I'm just a simple man.

It's like the most comfortable man of all time.

Well, a lot of people are fresh, you know, like the, I mean,

he, he, how people, he took all the money.

He really screwed over it.

Yeah.

And he made a good point of like, would you give $100,000

to someone you met three weeks ago?

Hell no.

But also Eric made a great point.

Money's cool, but relationships are better.

I was, he said something along those lines.

And I was like, you know what, that's a good person.

He's going to have good relationships.

But also, I feel like him and Rob are totally fine.

Remember like at the reunion, they're like, oh, yeah,

I took me a couple days and I'm over.

Totally.

But it is interesting because what if, what if one of the finale

fan of this was a, was a gamer?

And mostly gamers are, are kind of come on and be like,

well, listen, you know, when I'm not on these game shows,

I'm just, you're, I'm, I'm just nine to five in it.

I'm a normal person.

I'm not, I'm doing fine in life.

But like, this is a shit lot of money to me.

Yeah.

And it would have been, it would have been kind of fast

saying if Rob, like if, if Natalie, for example,

was, it was his him and Natalie.

But it does think you wonder like Rob walked out

with what was it?

200, about eight.

But then it's like, I wonder how much Sonic paid him

for those 14 ads he's doing.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm like, you're, he's probably fine.

Closed to the same amount.

I think you can, no, totally.

And I don't, I, I don't see Eric doing Sonic ads.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I think it really put a bad taste in.

I mean, maybe I, maybe I'm falling for it.

But I'm like, I feel like it put a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm like, you basically just like used people,

which I guess is the game.

No, he literally didn't say that even with Mora.

He was like, we need Mora to go to the end,

so I can fuck her over.

No, literally.

And honestly, I was like so annoyed at Mora the whole time.

And then when we got to the end, I was like,

oh, I suddenly feel so bad for you.

Yeah.

Like I was faced when he was like, I'm really tired.

And he was just like laughing and smiling.

And she was just like, I know.

Oh, trust me.

When she was like, you embarrassed me.

I was like, oh, I know that.

I know that feeling.

Oh, you embarrassed me.

That is so real.

Didn't she say like, good luck finding a girlfriend?

Yeah.

I'm trying to find a girlfriend.

And he's going to be fine, Mora.

He'll be all right.

I think he has one now.

Every single one will be like, I don't change him.

Yeah.

It'll be me.

I'll be the one, you know?

All these hos, they are just dumb and stupid.

I will.

He confirmed at the reunion.

He's got a girlfriend.

And she's, they've been together.

That's so dumb.

Yeah.

He's the most remarkable he's ever been.

Why would you do that?

His girlfriend is himself.

He chose himself.

Or it's all marketing for himself.

And he's like, yeah, I'm going to be in a relationship.

And then they'll break up.

And then he'll still have access to all the women he wants.

But for the public image, yeah, I'm just a simple man

with the girlfriend.

I told you, I just wanted to tell you, I told you.

Do we know who she is?

Or is as far as she said, we do.

She's a real person.

She's a real person from like the Midwins of City.

Yeah.

She's a snake.

She's a snake, yeah.

She's a python from Kansas City.

He found a snake with roaming rarer.

Speaking of men who are, you know, not maybe our cup of tea

currently, maybe in this moment, love is blind.

Has a few winners.

Oh, god.

Gems, you could say.

Gems, uh, some gems, Alex and his little curly piece

that he pulls over to the front on his forehead.

I'm still wondering.

I would love to see him get ready in the morning

and put the gel on that piece.

What are your thoughts?

What about Chris?

Evil.

Who awful?

Chris, is he?

I'm just going to say he might be a little gay.

I'm sorry.

My gator.

It goes off for this guy when he's like, you just, you don't see

a crossfit.

It's like girl.

She's a doctor.

It's like, literally.

Yeah.

He wants to fuck himself, you know, it's giving a bit of

interval.

Yeah.

He's like, he's just like trying to find a reason not to, you know,

enter her.

Really?

He's like, it's just not working for you.

I'm saying.

Hey.

Yeah.

You don't do Pilates, queen.

Yeah.

The Andrew T comment was great.

I know what it is.

What makes you go on?

Love is blind and say the word.

Andrew Tate.

Unwarranted.

It's also breathing.

I don't know who that man is.

I'm getting the fuck out of this conversation.

No, that was brilliant.

We said that I'm plus, but she definitely has heard

his name.

No.

For sure.

She was like, I know enough to just say, I don't know

it, but I'm also immediately need to leave this.

Yeah.

This is very dangerous.

It's too long to watch sometime.

What is really special about love is blind is specifically on that show.

You can just watch men dig their own grave and you think they're going to stop and then

they don't.

Yeah.

They just keep going.

And the camera is right there.

It is Netflix 4K Ultra HD and they just keep saying things like what you think I'm

Andrew Tate.

Yeah.

With a big smile on his face.

A big evil smile on his face.

Yeah.

Susie, you're our, I think you're our resident single heterosexual person.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

The title.

If I'm looking around.

What a title.

Yeah.

We've got a couple of gays.

We have Sierra's engaged.

We're married and you're single and straight.

Okay.

Single and gay.

But is this what, I mean, is, is.

And when we watch these shows and they're really highlighting and we, we're, we're, you

know, it seems like this season of love is blind.

They're really, you know, they're introducing us to what seems to be like this, like ultra toxic

kind of, you know, you know, guy who is like, you know, either dreaming about day trading,

you know, like the male influencer and all like these, these kind of very, what's it?

Like these like red pill guys.

Is that what is it?

Are you seeing that out in the dating landscape more and more or is this, is it just

still like.

I honestly have, I mean, I am not going to lie.

I have had some really strange dating experiences and I, and I don't know if it's that I'm in

LA now because I've put myself out there a lot more.

But I mean, I met a guy that was just like blatantly like, I'm monogamous now.

But in five years, like I can't guarantee you that that's what I want.

But I do want to wife and kids.

So what?

Like, fully went on a date with a guy that said that to me like a few months ago.

And then went out with a very like just like a, which I didn't see that coming.

Yeah.

I really didn't see that coming.

And then went out with a guy that was just very, I would, I would say probably similar.

Like I was like, oh, this is very fun.

You're very attractive.

I really like this.

But like, I know what I'm signing up for.

It kind of felt like this type of guy that you'd see on the show.

And then I've also, you know, I met a really, really, really nice human as well.

So I feel like I've had a lot like, but I, I feel like there's a lot of weird stuff

happening.

And it's just becoming very normalized.

I think it's normal to be like just absurd.

Yeah.

And it's like, oh, people are just accepting this.

Yeah.

I'm just like, I don't think Chris, I don't think this is like a bad at it.

No.

And I don't think he showed up thinking, I'm going to, like for fun, I'm going to be the

villain and think that's going to be like his stick, you know, I think he thinks it's

normal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But that's what's crazy about it.

That's why he's like open to having this, these conversations with anyone.

It's like, he'll sit down with whoever and be like, no, this is why we brought

up.

And I said, like, listen, we can keep trying.

She didn't want to.

So that's on her.

So, yeah, I can rest my head at night, no one, I give her an option.

And then he's like, I can't think of anything else, but the fact that I am disgusted by your

body, but I don't know why you don't want to keep on trying.

And then when they see each other at the mixer and he's like, you look so good.

You look really good.

Yeah.

You shut up.

I don't really.

Do not speak to me.

And he's like, and you just have dark features in you and she's like, I don't need you

to tell me.

I just don't know how you can be that aggro of a man and be wearing a vest.

Yeah.

I just.

What's his height?

Is he a short king?

I think he is five.

I think he is five eight.

That's the issue.

Yeah.

Maybe five seven.

Connor said he was short.

Yeah.

Connor called him short.

Yeah.

I like classic.

What do you guys think about Connor?

Love Connor.

Love Connor.

Like, what did that break up come out of absolute nowhere?

I was.

It was like the most beautiful conversation that they were having where she was like, you're

not getting the best version of me and like, I can offer you so much more.

You're teaching me how to be, but are you just a lesson in life or are you?

I was like, whoa.

But Chris needs to take notes from Bree because at the end of the day, I just think Bree is

just not in the corner.

Yeah.

Physically.

Love is not blind for Bree.

But instead of being like, just wrong with your body and I, you know, my dick doesn't

work.

When I think about how you look, she could have just been like, maybe you're a lesson.

I think, you know, maybe, you know, like, Bree did it perfectly, like, you know, she wasn't

a dick.

Yeah.

I just think it's like, it just shows that it's like there is really no right way to break

up with someone because I'm like, yes, obviously Chris is like, that's the absolute blueprint

to what not to do.

But I'm like, even Bree's, I felt the same way I felt like I was like, watching like

a thriller and then all of a sudden, here's the fucking twist and I was like, wait, what

is happening?

Yeah.

I'm literally dumping him.

But I'm like, at the same time, it was like, it was eloquent.

She was like, I'm really working through things on myself.

I'm not the best version of myself, but it's still like, uh, brutal because he wants

to marry you.

But I do think, I do think in a world where we're, you know, we're seeing more and more professionals

of every gender out there and the boss, ladies and the boss, men's.

But for the, for the, for the simple guys that, that, that maybe just, their apartments

aren't very glamorous, you know, very fancy, you know, and they truly need a woman's

touch.

But Connor is like, your definition of a guy who's just like, tell me what to do.

I'll do it.

Tell me how I can be a better person.

I will love you.

I'll be honest.

I will defend your honor.

I am, I have high character, like you can, you can even nag at me.

You can even pick on me a little bit and I'm like, he's a good man.

We need to give these guys a shot, you know, because you just need a, they're all coachable

and some of you really like to coach.

So I just, and that's what I don't get it.

They seem very compatible, Bri and Conn, because she is.

She's a coach.

Okay.

Well, she, I didn't want a coach for, for him, because I was watching it and I was like,

oh, he's just taking it.

But I'm like, I want him to stand up for himself and be like, I wanted him to like, have

more.

Sure.

But maybe they'll find, they could have found that.

That's true.

I mean, at some point she could, he could have been like, yo, like, what she was like,

I mean, you don't at the restaurant take, you don't say she'll have this.

She even said, look at me as like, what should we order?

I'm like, that is my nightmare of a man, a man who says, she's, she's having white chicks.

Yeah.

She'll have the salad.

Yeah.

Perhaps not.

I'm sorry.

Like, that is literally her.

And she's like, you look at me like, what should we, it should be a, what should we

order?

It should be a conversation.

And to that point, I'm like, sorry, apples and oranges for me, where it's like a

Connor or an Alex, where I'm like, okay, Connor has a, a career, Connor owns a home.

Connor has manners.

And his suite.

And then we've got Alex who has no home, who has no job, but knows how to fuck and talk

a bunch of shit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Connor has honest work.

I'm just saying he, Connor definitely needs a strong woman in his life to say, hey, listen,

you're a good guy and you're doing, you're doing great.

Yeah.

But you can do a little bit more.

Let's get the tag out.

Yeah.

We can make this a little prettier.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, we can polish you up a little bit.

Heather, did you see where Alex was like nuggets?

Buffalo sauce?

No.

Oh, yeah.

No.

What the hell?

They're in a fight.

And then he's like, starts giving her McDonald's order.

Like, I know you so well.

It's nuggets, coke, buffalo honey.

Right.

And she's like, yeah.

I do want that.

He's like, thank God.

He's like, I'll order.

He's like, I'll order.

You bring it.

No, the fight that they were in was he brought his friend, a woman, I guess, to like

advocate for her.

Right.

Wait, really?

What are you talking about?

She was part of cast.

Yeah.

Oh, oh.

She was on the...

Oh, then her storyline never made it.

But she was in the pod.

Pod Squad, baby.

But they're friends.

They're friends from before.

And they were.

They lied to casting or like lied to everybody that they didn't know each other so that they

would both get the opportunity.

Oh, he lied.

He admitted.

He admitted.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But it didn't make the storyline.

Or she didn't.

I guess she didn't have a voice.

Well, she did not have...

She did not have his bad.

No, I was like, period.

Get it.

Heather, do you have a trust in Dubai, a safe house in New Zealand, or a really nice house

in Florida?

Like Alex is planning and having?

Yeah.

It's all of it.

Yeah.

I like to lie too.

So fun.

Yeah, Alex.

Yeah.

He reminds you.

He speaks like a 17-year-old kid who lies.

Yeah.

It's all...

That's boy manifesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When he was...

He just talked about...

A thousand.

Yeah.

And then I turned out...

And then you turned 25.

And you're like, I don't have any of those things.

Yep.

I plan on having.

Because like five years felt like forever.

Yep.

And you're like, I'm a total loser.

I still try.

Except that he is 30.

Is he 30?

Is there anyone specifically that you're rooting for?

No.

No.

Is a gay woman.

Yeah.

What about Christy?

I don't care.

I think Davante is funny because his head is full of rocks.

Do you know?

He's just like...

Yeah.

It's fun to watch that.

Who is that?

Who is the girl that was telling him like...

I know you're never going to call me pretty.

And he's like, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

I just love that.

He's giving her nothing.

Question.

Heather, question.

Do you feel like watching love is blind?

Do you feel like you're an anthropologist just like studying this psychotic heterosexual experiment?

Truly.

Yeah.

I'm like, men never listen this much to women.

This is amazing.

Yeah.

And then they still don't in the shadows.

They're actually asking questions.

Yeah.

And then still don't.

Yeah.

And then it's still like a five foot seven guy being like, you don't do cross fat queen.

It's just fat shit.

Yeah.

I'm just kind of...

Yeah.

I'm waiting for the lesbian love is blind because straight dating is so foreign to me.

I'm just like, yeah.

They did have the...

Or women.

Well, I don't know if we're all tomato.

Do they not?

They did and it's toxic.

I know that was so horrible.

It's terrible.

It's so bad.

It's all bad.

I guess you have to be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But you got to be crazy.

We got a reality show.

A stable lesbian.

Yeah.

That's boring.

But I also think the...

The problem...

The problem with lesbian love is blind is like, you can't make any eye contact on the pods.

So that's like...

And they're going to fall in love in two seconds.

Yeah.

And so then it's like, it's just pointless, honestly, in my opinion.

It wouldn't work as a concept.

Yeah.

It wouldn't work.

Maybe gay guys.

I don't know.

Gay guys are a little toxic.

They can be fun.

Oh, that would be awesome.

Gay guys sleep around with everybody.

That's fun.

What do you think is going on with Alex's hair?

Nothing good.

Nothing good.

I wanted to give him a benefit doubt when he had that really pronounced peace.

And I was just like, oh, it kind of just reminded me of just how glamorous the average celebrity

is when they do glam.

Because I don't know about you, Susie, on reality TV.

And then you see yourself.

And you're like, I should have done my hair that day or something.

Oh, absolutely.

And you just realized just how much makeup or the average celebrity wears because you're going

out in public with your...

Like, apparently her hideous.

That's what I learned when I went on.

Do you get glam on those shows?

No.

No, not at all.

That's kind of my point where it's just like you just...

You do your hair a little bit, you know.

And sometimes after a while, you're in these like crazy environments and you just don't

give a fuck anymore and you like put on a hoodie and...

And whatever.

And then you're like, I'm going to regret that.

That was me at my hometown date.

My best friend saw me.

She goes, oh, you don't want to put on makeup today?

And I was like, oh, I thought I was wearing makeup.

And then I watched it back and was like, oh, yeah, I look horrid.

But then I saw Alex and he had that one wild hair just like sitting there really pronounced.

And I thought, you know, he just had to do a scene unexpectedly.

But then now I...

Then I was looking for it.

And it's kind of a thing that was just like, he didn't do it quite quite...

Oh, he does it every single morning.

Yeah.

He fixes it throughout the day.

For sure.

I have a question for you and I feel like you're really the only person I feel safe enough

to ask.

Okay.

Do you feel like Jim Carey has been cloned?

Girl, I'm so...

The internet has been so annoying.

I'm like losing faith in humanity.

How many people believe he was cloned for what reason?

No.

So we could have a puffy face and show up and speak French in a war show.

Like, he's retired.

I don't know if this is fake news, but it came out last night,

but that we now know like someone was wearing a prosthetic.

It was a prosthetic.

No, that is...

That is somebody dick riding for clout.

That's Alexis Stone who wears like latex masks.

So that was really Jim Carey?

And like shows up and...

Yeah.

That was...

See, this is what happens.

That was really Jim.

It would be internet.

People...

I know.

Nick, I'm worried.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, because it's...

I'm trying to get a full phone.

I'm thinking of Jim Carey from the 90s.

He's 60...

What is he?

Mid 60s?

Yeah.

With face work?

That's what happens.

You know what I mean?

We all see real housewives.

I don't know how it's so crazy and baffling people to be like, what's filler is all

this sudden?

Yeah.

I think he's just an older dude and people are like, oh, he's talking different.

I'm like, do you get old?

And you're just like gentler and quieter.

I don't know what they're expecting to like kick flip.

What about the conspiracy of his eye color changing from brown to blue?

Right.

This is...

We should have left kids behind in school.

It's just lighting.

It's like my eyes can be brown and then lighter and with light.

It's just science.

It's like a bonus game.

When people don't understand things anymore, yeah, they're just like, uh, or like contact

don't exist or, you know, I think you're really disappointing a lot of fans out there.

Heather.

Yeah.

Well, that's because I'm Jim Carey.

I'm really the clone.

Yeah.

I should...

I should run with this theory, but I feel bad for the guy kind of.

He's a minor.

So, do we think anyone's going to say I do this season?

We definitely need an I do.

Christine and Vic, for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're healthy couple.

So, that's why we're not really focusing on it and it's like showing them every once in

a while.

I also want to take back what I said about Devonte and Brittany to anybody that's a plus

listener, because I only had seen the first half of episode 10 and I was like, oh, I feel

like they might start be like listening to each other and hearing like, you know, she

was like, you don't call me Brittany and he was like, oh, I'm never going to do that.

And then she's like, oh, my God.

I guess we like, it's me projecting my relationship.

Why never?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Um, but then when they were sitting in that hot tub, and it was like a him going

thing.

Yeah.

Remember when we were dating 16 people?

Can we go back to that?

And I was like, this guy does not want to marry you.

And then he's sitting on the couch and goes, get like, listen, there's going to be a day

where you're going to try to call me and my phone's going to be off.

I'm not going to respond to you.

We're probably not going to talk.

And I was just like, girl, I'm your sitting here being like, so, but like, are you 99%

sure you want to marry me?

I cut this man to the curb between Devonte, Alex and Chris.

Well, Chris, I know why Chris went on the show.

I mean, I guess I know probably why Alex went on the show.

Yeah.

Those are three guys who had no business going in on this experiment.

Yeah.

Like Devonte, like, you're a, you're a, you're a heady guy who over thinks everything is

super analytical.

You were going to get yourself to marriage in six weeks.

You know, like, what, what a part of this process says I could do that.

No, it was when she literally goes, we're getting married in a week and he goes, whoa,

whoa.

It feels different when I hear you say that out loud.

Was it different when Nicholas, she said it at the top of the day.

It was like, oh, you're going to get married to eight weeks.

Meanwhile, you haven't met anyone yet.

Really?

And that, that was more digestible.

You were like, you know what?

Maybe this isn't for me.

And he's like, shit, I have to walk down the aisle with you.

I tried on like, sir, were you not a part of this entire experiment?

Right.

And it's like fine love.

Maybe you don't want to look at love as in blind, but like, you need, you need an entire

day off the grid.

You can't, I mean, listen, I'm not sometimes as an introverted.

A guy who just needs to take a break, he's sent my car after I park it and just sit there.

I, you know, we all have to do that.

But like a tired day, you also married somebody who's on your, if you're on do not disturb,

she's going to hit it.

And it goes through.

Some, some, some time.

Notify anyway.

Notify anyway.

Notify anyway.

Sometimes, you know, you know, like I'm in my head, but he's just like the, I, I'm just

never going to, why can't you just give her what she needs?

Your dress is pretty, but I'll never tell you you are wrong.

Why can't you?

Yeah.

Why did he join the show?

I'm confused by Devante wanted to be on the show.

It's making no sense.

Is there something he's promoting?

Yeah.

He's going to post on Instagram, like he's launching a protein bar.

Right.

I was going to say, and you're getting brandy, right?

Yeah.

It also seems like Alex definitely is following chat GTP when it comes to like what he

should do on chat, whatever.

I'm just like.

Yeah.

He's, he's following chat.

Jim Tam laundry.

Yeah.

I keep going back to the first couple of episodes where he was like highlighting his, his,

his themes.

He's like, so like, I don't talk to my dad.

I have a soccer career.

I have to get over and I don't know what the third thing was, but it was like these three

pillars of my story.

I'm a no man.

No man.

No man.

Yeah.

Any time soon.

And that's who I am.

That's in my bio.

That's like that's why people are going to.

It was like, you know, he was talking about his tragic story, you know, and just like,

you could, and for a guy who we've realized is not, he has no truth.

He's just out there winging it as he goes, confidently talking about the three houses he's

going to have.

Heather, we have a really fun game that I thought we should play with you if you want to play.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

The game of hot takes or roasts, but you must choose one.

We will give a pop culture subject or topics and you decide, are you roasting it or delivering

your hottest take starting with number one, the death drop as a guaranteed lip sync save

on RuPaul's Drag Race.

Are you going to roast it or are you going to deliver your hottest take?

My hottest take is that it's overdone, bitch.

It's overdone.

And also, I'm worried about the men's dicks, to be honest, during the death drops.

I don't know what's going on there, but it's overdone now.

We need a new, we need them to do some WWE moves, maybe off of a rope.

What?

Now it's not, it's not impressive.

Everybody does it.

You know what I mean?

What about a wig reveal?

Overdone as well.

Overdone.

Overdone.

We need a move.

Fair.

We need something out.

I don't know what they're going to reveal, but yeah, that's like, once, once I think

Roxy did it the first time or somebody did it the first time, then it's done.

It's like one of those moves where you see it once and you're like, all right, yeah, yeah.

What a RuPaul win Drag Race in its current format.

Yes, because RuPaul is very tire-banks-coded and she will stop on everybody to get to the

top.

Period.

And that's why she's successful.

Who is first on the Britney Spears apology tour?

What does that mean?

Is she apologizing to anybody or is anybody apologizing for her?

That apologizing to her.

To her.

To her.

Okay.

Timberlake number one for 2020.

Yeah.

Remember that excerpt in her book?

Yes.

That is the funniest line ever when she said, what did he say?

He's like, oh, yeah.

And she's like, is it in?

Feel that?

And she's like, is it in?

I love that.

She put that in her book.

I don't care if she was drunk when she wrote it.

It's fair.

It's fair.

He needs to apologize.

Yeah.

Fetterline.

Any man in her life needs to apologize.

Every man who's ever crossed her path.

The dad.

Yeah.

Speaking of Britney Spears, Britney Spears Instagram's captions are they misunderstood

poetry or cryptic messages?

That's just meth, baby.

That's just meth.

Okay.

Perfect.

She can be a poem.

It could be.

You can make anything.

Hi, Koo.

These days.

Housewives last one.

Housewives storylines.

Does every housewife need one every season or is existing enough?

Clearly, they don't look at Whitney Rose.

What does she do?

She has an MLM that she convinces on MLM.

I think that's her storyline.

I don't know what she's doing.

I miss when she was just having fake sex with her husband on camera.

No, you don't need a storyline.

You can just walk around and pretend to be rich and defraud people.

That's enough.

Hell yeah.

Just get drunk and yell about friendship.

We love it.

Did we watch Beverly Hills last night?

No, I'm catching up on Beverly Hills.

I'm catching up on it.

But I don't care about spoilers.

I did see some clips.

Dorito, you know, she's going crazy with the spending.

What do you like about this season or not like about Beverly Hills this season?

I love the addition of Amanda because she's psycho.

She's a scammer.

I mean, let's call it what it is.

She sells courses for manifesting.

I need to start doing that.

What the fuck am I doing?

I'm writing dick jokes.

I should be, you know, selling 14 different courses on how to manifest money by taking

all of yours.

Um, I like the addition of her.

I like, I like Dorito, I'll always like Dorito accent, you know, it's very, it's very

hilarious.

Baldwin.

Wasn't they both, they're both born in the Northeast and speak like Europeans.

That's fun.

You know, but I got a lot to catch up on with Beverly Hills, but I do like the addition

of Amanda and I miss, I miss Jennifer Tilly.

Are you watching Summer House at all?

No, I need to get into that, but I'm just not convinced.