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What's going on everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the file files reality recap edition
John by I am the host and forgot and he's not only the host of the file files reality recap edition he is also the host of age of attraction.
Yeah, the sidekick now he's a real star. She really shines.
You I think they just gave me some good lines for the trailer.
No, I don't only mean that like you're really great. You're really I mean you know and it just makes sense that you.
I don't know I feel like I because I felt like I kind of got close to our couples you know and so I feel like I.
I hope it comes across like we're friends and not like.
I'm trying too hard I don't know how was your first hosting experience.
It was crazy I've never been on a real set before you know I've done like modeling jobs but this was like full.
Crazy huge production.
I just think I only has a presence that I think really shines as a host.
That's very wrong.
I saw the trailer this morning and I feel like every clip that they release I'm like please please.
Yeah, like when it comes sooner.
Yeah, it's really it's really exciting.
You do not only art you're eating.
And you guys watch some of the clips what do you know am I just being a biased husband who's.
You're for sure you know there's like you for sure are.
Yeah, no I'm not biased.
Yeah, but we do not handcuff our voices and we you you you certainly exist in the show.
You know, I was going to say it feels no it's good.
I'm I've really enjoyed the stuff I've seen of it.
I think there's certainly some drama.
Yeah, well the trailer did drop yesterday.
So we do have that to play the full trailer.
It's the it's the juice.
I have dated guys who are my age because it was the right thing to do.
And it didn't work out obviously.
Here you'll be dating and even committing without ever knowing how old your partner is.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
I don't know if these guys are my grandpa's age.
Would you know the spice girls are?
I couldn't be one.
The best three-minute date I've ever had.
I'm not going to lie.
I like the mom.
You do? Do you have mommy issues?
If you're not as hot as my mom, I'm not going to marry you.
If you feel as if you found that special connection, all that's left is revealing.
Your age.
I am.
Catch a seat or not.
I didn't even know there were 60-year-olds here.
I don't want to fit in a box.
Why does it matter how old I am?
Do you stay together and plan for a future
or leave this experience the same way you entered it alone?
I'm definitely worried.
What would my family think?
Children?
Yeah.
And you hated babysitting.
I just want to make sure you're thinking realistically.
I don't need to hear it.
I'm sorry it just got said.
I'm starting to see red flags.
She doesn't know you're kids?
That's unacceptable.
Period.
Might do something crazy.
You know, I do.
Trying to roll with that whole age is just a number thing.
Oh my god, it looks so good.
So good.
Yeah, we're excited.
I mean, listen, obviously the premise, I think, is
drawing people in.
I mean, for us, like I think we said before,
we obviously got asked to be the host because we represent...
The blueprint.
We represent the age difference couples.
Similar to love is blind.
It's asking a question.
Can people, like, I think there's, you know,
people have been fascinated with people
in age difference relationships.
And I think sometimes those relationships,
you know, get picked apart, get criticized.
Sometimes that criticism is fair.
Not every couple that is an age difference relationship,
works out, you know, and I think this is exploring
in a world where people are just having harder
and harder times making connections
and finding their person and are being frustrated with their picker
or, you know, kind of, you know, the people they're selecting.
It's just like asking if you open up the possibilities
of just like leaning into making, you know,
finding who you're compatible with, common interests
and things like that, could you find something special?
Like for me, you know, obviously we've talked,
I've talked at great length about like,
when I met Natalie, my reservations,
obviously I found her attractive and I thought she was charming
and we had a lot of fun together,
but I wasn't really sure.
And then once obviously I, you know,
leaned into that relationship,
she's changed my life in unimaginable ways.
Like, I, you know, in every measurable way,
now my life is better.
I mean, I was living in Venice
in a two bedroom on the beach,
just very like bachelor life, you know,
and I had this show and the show was doing great,
but ever since, you know, like in every,
I have my family, I have my child,
I have this, this show and this company
has like, exponentially grown.
Everything I have in my life is just like so much better
because of the person I found.
And then this, the idea that like if you're open to
thinking outside of the box,
you might find someone who really, you know,
makes your world that much better as well.
That's what I hope people when they're watching this show,
you know, enjoy watching and this,
I think there's some really great connections.
It seems like Sienna Miller might also be watching.
I hope so.
She's saying.
Why is that?
Sienna Miller.
Sienna.
Sienna.
Oh, sorry.
See, that's giving age gap.
Age gap.
Age gap.
You know, different.
Do you know just Sienna Miller is?
I'm going to Google it.
Not to be confused with Summer House star Sierra Miller.
She, her quote, was the idea of an older woman
with a younger man is still fetishized rather than normalized.
There's a disparity there that I would love to see disappear,
which is so true.
And I think you could see it with some of these women,
which was like, this isn't as normal
and we're going to get looked at.
Whereas an older man with a younger woman,
it's like, you see that every day.
Yeah, you know, some people like criticize me,
but other people will celebrate me, you know,
throughout the show,
you really see these women start to feel empowered,
you know, and like come into their,
like, oh, shit.
Like, no, why the fuck can't I do this?
You know what I'm saying?
Which we love to see.
So yes, it's definitely difference.
And I think a lot of people,
I think a lot of the discourse and discussions
will be around your question in terms of like,
to see an Amerler, it's just like, okay,
well, if it ends up being like your person,
then I guess we can allow it.
Mm-hmm.
But maybe she just wants to fuck around.
And find out.
Yeah, let her find out.
And have that be normalized to like, you know,
I'm here for that movement.
Hey, let people fuck around.
Let people find out.
Yeah, I'm going to have Debbie Moore
was dating Ashton Kutcher and they were just like,
oh, my God, how could she?
And it's just like, it was Ashton Kutcher in the early 2000s.
Yeah, you're gonna say no, maybe now.
But then, genuinely.
My God.
Well, we have to talk about the new cast of Rony.
Yeah.
This is my favorite story on the internet right now.
Carol.
No.
Even Carol, bitch.
Not even Carol.
We're going Haley Glassman.
We're going.
Friend of show Claudia Asher made a hilarious TikTok,
exposing Haley Glassman as one of her trolls.
And by troll, I mean, and I relate to this.
And I'm sure many people in reality,
you know, who have a following.
But you know, if you check your DMs,
which I have in the past and with any regularity,
every once in a while, there's like,
it's not, I'm not talking about a troll in the comment
or like someone who just like is responding
to a very specific post or a take and, you know,
that they disagree with.
But someone who like on a weekly,
sometimes daily basis,
just sends you the most outrageous things,
you know, where they're just like,
they won't supply to a story be like,
you, you're ugly, you know?
And it's just like, okay.
Like very high school bullying is done.
Just to come out of your day.
I'm so sorry.
And it's like consistent.
So when Bravo announced the new cast of Rony,
Claudia's like, why does Haley Glassman
sound so familiar?
Oh my god.
I know that name.
So she like, Google's her, looks at her Instagram.
She's like, I don't like recognize her.
That's not like, I like know her from anything.
Then she goes to their messages.
And she's like, oh, yes.
It's like Nick and Chanel, I know her.
And it's crazy because it's like,
no, that was a one off.
I know, she's like body shaming her.
Or in the next, like awful things.
The next one will be like, you got this, mama.
And it's like, whoa.
Oh, so she's going to be perfect for this show.
It's something like, it's crazy how you were
smaller as a pregnant person than before or something.
And it was just like the most like brutal thing.
So you're like, excuse me.
And then the next one's like, slay mama.
Muzzle talk.
It's like, I mean, so sorry, that happened to Claudia,
but see that, no, Claudia was like, who is,
where is the bottom of the barrel that Bravo
is scraping to find these people?
Because they are like finding some random person
who's trolling.
You know, it's like, it's the Monica rule.
I mean, that's literally what she said.
I'm not saying it's Claudia, she was like,
this is the best day of my life.
I think she's okay.
Good.
I mean, like she's, because this is awesome.
No, it's, I mean, no, truly, I was like,
I was fascinated watching it because again, think about it.
Like when you're, when you see these comments, right?
A lot of these comments, their counts are private.
Their profile picture is like, I don't know.
You don't really know who they are, right?
Me and my family.
You know, you don't really know who they are.
And then obviously the typical response is like,
this must be someone with like a mental health issue
because this behavior online is like,
it's like kind of bizarre.
It just seems like it does nothing really to do with you.
It's not even objective feedback.
It's just like someone who's going out of the way
to take a time, clearly there's some kind of obsession
who just is trying to trigger you.
Like they're, they're, it's not this objective feedback.
And to come to find out, this is like someone who,
by all accounts, should have better things to do.
Has a life, like has connections and money in a,
like a family, you know?
It's capable of being considered,
of being, of being out of the way.
And this person is so obsessed with you
that they are taking the time out of your day to send that
is like, honestly, such a rewarding feeling.
It's so awesome.
It's such an amazing.
It's so cool.
Wait, I just pulled up an article about her
and it says,
Glossmann is a public relations professional for over 10 years.
She's in the pants and like, this is like,
this is like, this is a contrary member of society.
And she's a publicist.
She's already a star, mama.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, she's trolling so much in the public space.
And she's like,
it's her real account.
Like.
She presents is like, not the person
who's living in their garage, who like, you know,
who's like, oh, don't worry, honey,
that's just someone in their basement.
Or like their mother's basement who's like, so unhappy.
And it's like, no, it's a publicist living in New York City
who is a housewife of New York City.
She's got a LinkedIn, baby.
Yeah.
No, she's, she's evil messaging you from LinkedIn.
I do think it's interesting what Natalie was saying
about like, are we scraping the bottom of the barrel?
I've been thinking about this.
I don't think the term scraping the bottom of the barrels
what I think, but I think we're entering an era of wild cards.
And that's where like, you have Monica, you have Amanda,
where it's like, you're pulling these people
that don't fit the mold of what the cast is
and like, just see what they cause
and they cause really good seasons.
Like, they shift the narratives and it caused divide.
Do they cause longevity?
Like, are we getting more OGs?
Are we getting our life?
That's what I'm saying.
So I think it's like the wild card era
and then they're throwing back in these OGs.
Then you have the grudges that also come back
and then Carol Rasmus, where it's like,
they know that they need to like feed the audience,
but also break the housewives out of their garage.
I just think they're discounting how common and normal
this type of behavior is.
That's so normal.
But that's I think the issue is like,
you're now putting a woman who has,
now we know is like a troll online
to like be in a safe place with our other housewives.
Like, I kind of love it.
I love that they're casting the wild cards.
I think like we, even with Beverly Hills
and I think it's a good show,
but everybody critiques it up like,
there's no story lines because people are comfortable.
Like, I think you need these wild cards to come in
and like make someone be like, wait,
so you've been like shit talking someone
or like, wait, you have a Insta account?
Well, that's why I think you need an OG too.
So like, that's where I'm like the collaboration
of Carol Radswell with this Haley Glassman.
Like, Carol's like a journalist.
Like, she is a professional.
She has been on housewives for five years
with Bethany Frankl running up against Futing
with Bethany Frankl.
This woman can handle anybody.
So that's where I'm like,
But like after seeing Claudia's post,
I am so locked in.
Rob Roush has a new professional endeavor.
I don't know if you've seen it.
He is going into the world of voice acting, A Radica.
Me neither.
Who is it nowadays?
I mean, what?
You have Canada, Shane Hollander
and Russia's Ilya Rosanov and Rob Roush.
I do love that.
And listen, from one Southern bell to the next,
I love that his accent is so much thicker
in his A Radica series than it is
in literally anywhere else.
I do think that that is when he needs to turn it on the most.
For sure.
He's literally performing.
Should be allowed.
Did you also see his dad?
No.
Is his dad a hunk?
I saw a...
An unverified reel.
Uh-huh.
Unverified.
Well, it's just like I saw it on the internet
and someone would be like,
this is Rob's dad.
I thought it was AI,
but no, it's really his dad.
No, it's the hottest man alive.
I mean, they have the hot family.
Yeah, I don't think so.
I'm looking at it.
Like better, I mean, arguably better looking than Rob.
Stop it.
Okay, now I need to see.
I mean, it's shocking how hot he is.
And he's giving like dad wearing vans, you know?
Like kind of cool.
Mm-hmm.
Oh my goodness.
The jeans run strong.
He's jacked.
He's also a male model.
That's a photo shoot.
Yeah.
He's one of those guys, you know,
silver foxes where you see
and they're like, you know, like how old are they?
And they're like, could be 16.
They could be 40.
He looks like the like hot dad
that's in the background of a, like a frame.
And you're like, like that frame, but you like don't know why.
And then you never replace the photo.
And you're like, what, who is this family?
And you're like, I don't know, that was really not sad.
I hope.
No, it's literally.
He does.
He does like, he should be sitting in a home good place.
100%.
He looks like he should be sitting.
That sweater, that facial hair.
Wait, guys, I feel personally very offended by Vulture.
And I love Vulture.
But why are they calling for a band of housewives on traders?
I feel like that's just one man's opinion.
So unnecessary.
Of course it's a man.
Right.
Of course it's a man.
Really, everything.
Wait, what are you talking about?
Vulture is calling for a band of housewives on traders.
They're saying, OK, there was one opinion piece on Vulture
that called for a housewife.
But that is a Vulture housewife.
That's about me.
I was like, that's their reasoning for banning housewives,
wanting to ban housewives.
They're claiming for like after like a lackluster reunion.
It became clear that housewives don't want to play the trader's game.
Like I think it's just, they want to play the real housewives
of the highlands and have arguments that spill out
into social media, then meet up for a housewife's job reunion
with their patron Andy Cohen.
Contrast this season couldn't have been clear.
Rob Rosh played a near-perfect game,
always saying Candice made mistakes
as most traders' consultants do to be fair,
then spend the better part of two months
telling any Instagram follower or a podcast host
who would listen about how they were betrayed in a game
where that's literally the name of the game.
However, that's the fun of the show.
That is true.
That's what makes it good TV.
One, I don't watch traders for the reunion.
Yeah, yeah, no.
Like I'm glad they gave us one.
There's some like couple takeaways,
but like it's not the same is like, say Potomac
where we're like really trying to peel back the layers
of some of these interpersonal relationships in drama.
This is a game.
Yeah.
So like, you know, we can talk a little bit strategy,
but like that's not why they didn't give us a reunion.
I think we'd all like be okay.
You could have saved your traders' reunion
and given me the Valley Persian style reunion,
you could have given me this Vanderpump rules season reunion,
but like I did not need to go over the game that I just watched.
Two, if you're...
For everyone to just say like,
it's a game.
Mora, you were so shocked.
Yeah, I was so shocked.
I had no idea.
I know I literally just watched that at the finale.
This is a competition show about how you manage
interpersonal relationships in different dynamics
and how you like play with that.
And so casting obviously a lot of reality TV stars,
many of which are from the bravo sphere
because it's on peacock, it makes a lot of sense.
But if you let's say you are a fan,
let's say you're a gamer, you're a brother fan,
you're a trader, you're a survivor fan.
Do you give a fuck in the middle of the season
that Candace is in the comments with Rob being messy?
You probably don't even know what her Instagram account is.
But if you are a bravo fan and you're a housewife fan,
you're eating that shit up
and that is why you're watching it
because you want to see them be messy
for no fucking reason.
And you want, you know, like, so you're giving a little bit
to each of their fan bases and why they watch.
It's just like, it's not that serious.
If I wanted to watch gamer shows,
I would watch like a gamer show.
Yeah, that's how I feel about traders.
It's like, you're on my network.
Yeah, it's like survivor exists for a reason,
like big brother exists for a reason
and they're great shows and they're awesome.
It's a different skill set.
And I think what's interesting about traders
is mixing the two.
And you have to get, it makes Rob's victory
that much more impressive
because he is not someone I assume
who's watching a lot of housewives
who doesn't really probably didn't really know the lore,
probably didn't realize that these are people
who are just professional potsters, you know?
Like there's not like an objectiveness
to them stirring the pot
and he was able to pick up on that quick enough
and being partnered with two housewives as traders
and was able to eliminate them without being found out.
I mean, that makes it that much more impressive
because housewives are so unpredictable
and like in bravo celebrities in general
are so unpredictable because like these are people
who like don't go on a, you know, survivor traders,
they go on an island, they go in a locker room,
they're in this again, another social experiment.
When they're in that world, it's, you know,
and they come out of it,
they go back to their normal lives.
If you go on the bachelor, very similar thing,
like you immerse yourself in this world,
you come out and it's somewhat normal.
Bravo celebrities, there's just,
there's for so many of these people,
there's no stopping and starting.
They can't, they lose themselves and their characters.
They're meeting up with bloggers to like make sure
that these people like hear their version of their truth
because their competitor and friend
is also meeting up with their bloggers
and like it's just this whole crazy world.
They're also just good with their words
and like witty, so for Rob to your point
to be able to like push against that
and survive through it is a credit.
I was calling for a whole season of traders with housewives
and then I saw this and I was like, who said that?
Who said that?
Yeah, I was like, where did that come from?
Who said that?
If you want a more gamey type of traders,
one, they are coming out with a civilian traders,
which won't have any housewives, so.
And there's also go watch like some of the other,
like UK version, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
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Another thing, I don't know if you guys also saw
the new Netflix squid game like All Star show.
Oh yeah, isn't there enough run?
There's some hand in God way.
Yeah.
But like, what is it?
The Spice Girl on it.
Mel-B, Mel-B.
I guess they're...
You can name a Spice Girl.
Remember, they did like the reality TV version of it.
So I guess now this is like their...
Yeah, but like, yeah, it is curious how they'll do it.
And they were wearing the masks
as if they were the people who, you know,
on squid games, like the VIP people.
And obviously this good game,
it starts with like hundreds of people.
They're only casting.
I was about to say, yeah, there wasn't that many.
It wasn't enough celebrity presence in this.
I'm definitely just intrigued, right?
I mean, just like competition shows,
trader, all the traders and things like that
are just height of its popularity.
And the squid game, obviously,
is an incredible brand and IP for Netflix.
And yeah.
And honestly, I do love a reality TV show
that's gone like a couple seasons like this.
And then they're like, you know what?
Let's add.
Let's switch some things up.
And let's keep it interesting.
It's great.
It's great.
I mean, I've always felt, I don't know.
I've never...
I watched like the original squid game show.
And then like, when they started doing
the reality TV version of it, I'm like, I was...
I mean, I was...
Oh my God.
I know.
I heard it was good, but in my brain,
I was always like, doesn't this kind of go
against the entire point of the show squid game?
Oh, so...
I don't know.
It just felt odd.
I don't know.
I mean, nobody dies.
I know nobody dies, but it was just the same murder.
It's definitely not.
I don't know.
I'm still competing for the money.
I don't know.
I mean, I didn't watch the reality show version of it.
I just remember when it came out.
I was like, this seems odd.
It was remarkably the same.
Yeah.
That was like...
They all acted like they were dead.
I'm mentally not strong enough to sleep in a room
with that many people on bunk beds.
That's already enough for me.
They're like bunk beds, yeah.
Fighting for a can of tuna, I can do it.
Yeah.
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A sky from the Valley Person Sales with us.
I expected it to be a good interview.
I didn't expect that.
Yeah.
It was amazing.
And by that, I mean,
I feel like a dog was my head out the window.
Like, I'm so happy right now, you know, just.
I love that.
She did not hold back.
No, she did not.
No.
So.
There was now like, how do I say this?
No, it was straight forward direct.
And that's how I like my reality TV stars.
Really just a beautiful, beautiful interview.
Yes.
Speaking of reality TV stars,
has anybody seen the Marie Claire interview
that Amanda Batulla just did?
Her about it.
I haven't read it.
I mean, the photos, she looks absolutely phenomenal.
But a couple of things that she clarified
was a bit about their separation.
She said, I moved out in November.
We were separated,
but agreed not to see other people.
The plan was to date each other, work on our relationship
and take some space.
But that space made us realize
that the separation should be permanent.
Love that.
I was like, at least they tried something different
and it didn't work out for them.
That what point was Kyle allegedly seeing
making out with people?
I'm assuming that was this year.
Right, are you talking about this?
I don't know.
Like when they decided to separate
like how long ago was that, you know, like, was that like,
I believe that they separate.
When they agreed not to see other people.
She said that October is when they separated
then she moved out in November.
But like they, she moved out with the intention
of them like dating each other
and not seeing other people.
And then during that time of being separated
it was just like, it's not working.
And I thought something that I really like
that she did was kind of, she came for,
she came into fence of Kyle.
Kyle's been, you know, getting it pretty hard in the comments.
He's right now in this position
where nothing he does works for anybody.
So yeah, it's a dog pile.
So she said, I don't care how awful of a person
you think Kyle was or how terribly you feel
he treated me to attack him when he's going through
this separation while he's also dealing
with the pain and the fallout of the relationship.
Don't be a man when he's down.
We still love each other very much.
I mean, I mean, obviously agree with that statement.
But I am curious from her perception
or like her point of view or just the rest of the cast.
Obviously this show, you know, we watch these shows.
We critique it, we give our opinions.
We very Monday morning and quarter back it.
Like very much like sports will be like,
oh my God, you watch that game.
I can't believe that he dropped that pass
or I hated that play, whatever.
I hated when he cheated on his girlfriend.
Yeah, for sure.
And as fans of reality TV, we love to have these discourses
and then at times that includes critiques of our characters.
Now I personally feel like that's a completely different line
than say like going in people's comments.
Certainly their DMs, which is a whole another like
and saying like just like attacking them
as a man that points out.
But I'm wondering when she says that,
does she include like shows like ours?
Or like do they think that's, you know,
when we're sitting there talking about like
can't believe Kyle does this and blah, blah, blah.
And critiques the behavior of watching.
I wonder if they take that personally.
I'm sure they take all of it personally.
You know, when you're going through something,
you don't have the ability to like separate.
I think I don't think they're go, they're,
they have a lens of like, oh, that's okay,
but this isn't okay.
Well, I mean, we've met, we've met a lot of our guests.
Well, you know, you know, sometimes we've critiqued them
and they've come on and we're always like curious.
Sometimes we wonder if they come in.
And there's a lot of them are like, no,
I mean, listen, I totally get it.
This is what it's like a show is.
It's a job.
We've a lot of, especially Bravo fans,
like understand that this, this show is,
you know, you want the fans to engage.
It's just a matter of like, do they, you know,
there's a line across.
There's like, you can talk about it.
You can critique it.
There's a difference between like, you,
you should assume that people are reading their own comments.
Sure.
And if you're going, it's like showing up at their house.
It's like showing up at their digital house, so to speak,
and throwing eggs at their house.
And it's like, that's, there's a level of,
but I'd be curious if they're, you know,
I also think that there's like a difference,
but I'm like, we're a show that recaps shows.
And so obviously what you're showing
and what's going on in context around that show being on air
is one thing.
The laboring the situation, like if every week
we're talking about their breakup or like what a piece of shit
Kyle is or whatever, then I'm like,
I think that's kind of to the point where she's like,
Kyle's dealing with what he's dealing with on his own.
I don't think we need to like pour more salt into the wound.
Obviously, when you put it an announcement out there,
people are going to react to it, whether they're shocked,
whether they expected it.
But I'm like, it's, I think it's just making it a point
of topic of conversation when it doesn't,
when it's not necessary.
I feel like it's, it's an interesting situation
to be covering summer house right now
with Amanda and Kyle separation
because they're at a point now where they have figured it out
and they seem to be in a place where they are respectful
for each other, instead of love for each other.
And that's amazing.
And that's what you want in that situation, right?
If that's going to happen, like you want it to be,
like you want to still feel like you can have a relationship
with that person.
Amicable, yes, that's the word.
But we're talking about a show where you're seeing
the end of their relationship pretty much.
And this is the worst that it got for them at this point.
Like if you think about the timeline,
they separate, like they separate in October
when with summer house films.
Would you like?
Yeah.
So it's like, it's just hard to see,
to like want to kind of be respectful
about where they are now,
but you're also seeing like the worst.
It's a full day.
It's a full day thing, you know?
It's also, I'm asking that then the question is is like,
how much of this is real and how much of this
is them leaning in, you know?
I've said this before many times, I think,
is from my understanding of how reality TV is made,
and I've seen a lot of different reality TV made.
I think like, for example, the Bachelor Show is one of the most
that the least scripted, least staged reality TV shows.
But even in that show, you know,
I, when I was on Paradise,
I willingly walked the beach looking sad
when I didn't give a fuck so they can make a, you know,
and then I was like, didn't know exactly how they would use it.
But you knew you were doing that for TV?
Yeah, and then they made it seem like I was all sad
about these dates.
I agreed to go on for them when I had no actual interest
in these people and pretend that I did.
Did they know that that's how you felt about it?
Of course.
Interesting.
So like when that was scripted?
Literally got in the car.
Like, you know, it was, I don't know if you remember,
Chad, Bed Chad, whatever, and he went home early
and like that was not something they were expecting
for him to get that drunk that fast.
That was the whistling in the woods in the dark, right?
Well, that's him that was on JoJo season.
But then he came, I'm paradise that season.
Oh, yeah.
And he would, I mean, he crossed a line of like,
we can't let this guy stay on.
You're right.
And that started a whole, like, you know,
on the producers.
Yeah, but how is that, to see your response?
How is that not scripted?
No, it is.
I'm saying it is.
But I, you know, all reality TV on some level
has a level of inauthenticity and like people doing things
that like are just, you know, fine, what a fuck it, man.
I'll, fine, I'll do that, you know,
not because they wanted to or that's like at the choice
they would have made if they were just in the real world.
They were just like doing their job.
Yeah, you know, like on my season of Asher,
I really, I load the fact that they brought a bouncy castle
with Conan and I did not want to do it, you know, like,
and then I did and then everyone has these opinions
about how that looked or what I did, you know,
and I'm just like trying to like not look, you know,
make her, you know, I wanted to not have her feel out it
and things like that.
So, you know, I imagine like all these people,
like they have a TV show to make,
they have the pressure of ratings and things like that
and I'm sure they lean in at times
and the question is how much?
And so we're all watching this just as fans
taking it at face value because again, like,
it's not, it's not black or white, you know,
most of what you see on Bashar is like authentic, you know,
and again, edited, but like, yeah, it's like,
there are, they're making a TV show.
And to make a TV show, sometimes you have to,
there's a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
And then like, whether it's Kardashians or Bravo,
like the question is is how many of these scenes
are staged, rehearsed, you know, things like that?
I think various shows have various degrees of that.
And I'd be curious like on all these shows,
and specifically Summer House, like how much is Amanda
and Kyle's like willingness to just lean in a little bit,
knowing it's amazing TV, knowing that all of us
will be captivated by what we're watching,
only to like have, you know, the fans and even us,
like, you know, make statements about their character
and their behavior when they know deep down,
like that's not, you know, it's not totally authentic.
It's not me, it's not who I wanted to do,
but I decide, I agreed to do it.
It's like Summer House was like a little hard for me
on that thought because I'm like the whole point of it
is that I'm like they have the entire week
to like not be filmed.
And then it's like they come out and they have 48 hours
to like let loose over this weekend.
So I'm like to spend time to rehearse or stage a scene
where I'm like I understand because I mean, obviously,
I think it's more of the external storylines,
which I would agree are like scripted
because I'm like what was it last season?
It was Amanda and Kyle like house hunting.
And then it came out that it was like the house
was like an air in B and B or something
and that it was like that they weren't actually planning
to move into said house, but it was part of the storyline.
And it was like what Amanda wants versus what Kyle wants.
So I'm like I wonder how much is like staged
or rehearsed versus like we're gonna present something
that helps further along our storyline.
Like instead of us just sitting in the kitchen
talking about wanting to move and where we want to move,
why don't we go look at a house
and film that conversation during that?
But I mean, that's a production,
that's like full, that's a production note
of just making engaging TV.
Right.
I think there in more of it is this more nuanced.
I think a lot of it, especially in Bravo world,
is you're seeing people care about things
that in reality they probably wouldn't care about
and they wouldn't make it a big issue.
But do you genuinely think that like Kyle
and Amanda have had a conversation before this season,
like we're gonna separate and we're gonna play out
or like do you not do you think that there's a chance
that like they get gotten to this weekend
not really realizing how bad their relationship is
because clearly it sounds like they spend a lot of time
apart when not filming.
That I'm like now you're forced to deal with these issues
in this house but also with everybody else's opinion
a part of it.
That is an interesting point though of like,
they clearly don't spend a lot of time together
when they are not filming this show
and this show makes them spend every weekend together.
He was literally disgusted by the idea
of sitting on the couch and Netflix and chilling.
So like that's where I'm like, if that's what she's doing.
The month, every month prior to them filming,
he has not been home any weekend.
So the fact that now there are like
forced to spend weekends together,
forced to drive four hours to the Hampton.
She's hearing for the first time how he speaks
about her outside of their relationship
where she's like, I'm always saying you're my best friend
and I support you and then you're going around
saying everything that's wrong with me
and like it sounds like that was the first time
that she's like hearing, this is your opinion of me.
That does make sense that it would like blow up during.
Yeah.
I think it's all possible.
I think it's a spectrum.
I think all of the things that you just mentioned happen
and part of it is again, just like knowing
that there are really TV stars and that's their job
and there are other things that like couples be like,
you know, listen, I'm not going to talk shit
about my partner, you know, I'm not going to say this out loud.
I'm not even going to say this to my friends,
but like these people want to show, they're miked up
and it's kind of their expectation and obligation to like give,
right?
Would they normally do that, you know,
and things like that?
And I think when the...
I was going to say to your point, every start of a season,
Kyle has a grift with Amanda to bring up to the grill.
We only know that from the lens of watching him on TV.
All right, well up next, we have Skye from the Valley Persian Style
and this is an amazing interview.
I hope you are ready for a very honest
and a very direct person who just answered our questions
because honest as they could be a very entertaining person.
She answered a star.
She's next.
Skye, welcome to the show.
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Well, congratulations on a very wonderful,
very successful first season.
Now that it's kind of out,
what is your just overall feelings about season one?
It was, it was very emotional.
Okay.
It was, yeah, it was tough and very emotional.
But of course, I learned so much about myself number one.
Well, let's start there.
What did you learn about yourself?
That I'm such a tough cookie.
Yes.
That I can go to the war against the whole army
and come out of it with the head up.
And then say to myself, damn girl, you did it.
Okay.
All right.
Was there anything you would have done differently
or was there a moment where you're like,
yeah, I don't know.
I didn't love that about what I did there.
Well, the only thing that I didn't love about, not love,
I didn't like about myself, the way I actually
handle my husband.
Okay.
That was the only thing I didn't like it.
And I tell you why, because no matter what in marriage,
people go through tough time.
And for me, it was a lot I was going through.
It wasn't just about my marriage, it was about my life,
it was about my business, my kids, my father.
So much I had in my plate.
And then at the same time,
I had to interact with a bunch of people
with a very different personality.
It was tough, you know, it was like,
to go through your daily life and then deal with that
at the same time, hours on TV, hours on camera.
So it wasn't really easy.
And the fact that the way he was snapping all the time,
because usually the conflict is started with him
losing his cool.
And then I'm like, dude, you know me,
I'm not going to take it.
I have to give it back to you.
But it wasn't a right time and a right place.
So that was not something that I wanted anybody ever seen.
And especially my children,
they're going to watch this eventually,
hopefully in the next 10 years or so.
But we're trying our best to protect them
from all of this, what's happening right now.
But that was the only thing that I was really proud of.
But the rest, I'm sorry,
I had to stand up for myself and, you know,
I get all the credits.
We love you on the show.
Thank you.
To be clear, some of your critics
and some of your castmates at times
accused you of being a little pretentious or stuck up.
What would you say to them about that criticism?
You know, it's like I don't feel like
I have to explain myself for who I am.
You know, you like it, you love it.
Thank you very much, you don't.
That's your opinion.
I'm never going to change myself or do something
to get anybody's validation.
The way I carry myself, I've been carrying myself,
the way I carry it today, same as 20 years ago,
same as, I don't know, 40 years ago.
I am, why am?
I like nice stuff in life.
And I'm not a type to sit back
and waiting for someone to provide it for me.
So I'll go get it.
If I have to work hard, I will work hard.
I'll do anything to provide the life that I want.
And you want to just look at it as like I'm pretentious?
Sure.
But unfortunately, or fortunately,
this is my lifestyle.
I'm not doing anything to get anybody's attention.
OK.
Do you stand by how you handled you and Tannen's friendship,
given that it was a real friendship
that had been going on for years before this?
How do you feel like that all played out?
To be honest with you, I'm sorry to say this,
but after all years, all of this years
being your friends and calling each other a sister.
And you go and talk, chef, behind my back
with someone that is very new to the group.
It's unacceptable.
I don't think I did anything wrong.
Yeah, maybe I mentioned that discount situation.
You know, when you're kind of like ambush and you're hurt
and when you see everybody's like from every different angle,
they just come at you and then attack you,
that's kind of like, it puts you in a very defense mode.
You're like, you know what?
Anything I can do, anything I can say,
I will use it to just protect myself.
So maybe it wasn't a right thing to say,
but the fact that she talks about it with Reza
and then keep using the word that she supported my business,
it's actually very painful.
You know, it's like, you know that you did it
not to support my business.
You did it because you wanted to have those pieces.
And you know, most of the time I gave you my costs
or with a very little profit margin.
And that's why I set the themes that I set,
but it just came out not right, you know?
Well, we love your authenticity and honesty.
So it seems like you and Tannen still are not on the same page.
When it comes to your jewelry line,
where your truth is, you know, she loved the jewelry,
she wanted the jewelry, she asked for the jewelry,
and as a friend, you hooked her up a little bit.
Yeah.
And she's telling this story where it's just like,
yeah, I mean, the jewelry's fine,
but I just really want to support my friend.
And I really mostly bought it
because I wanted to be a supportive friend
not because I wanted the jewelry.
Doesn't, okay, so let me ask you something.
Doesn't really make sense
then you go drop like seven, eight thousand,
five thousand, four thousand to just for the sake of just supporting
someone's business constantly.
I'm definitely with you there.
I don't know what her financial situation is.
It doesn't matter what kind of a financial situation she has,
but does that make sense?
If somebody doesn't, just constantly to do.
Did I ever mention, I mean, we can ask her,
is like, did I ever mention that is like my,
I'm losing my business or my business is like crashing
and I really need someone to support me?
Yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, that's a, that's a lot of money to spend just to be a friend.
Yeah. Thank you.
I saw that Tannen was at what what happens live with Gonesa.
How do you feel about Gonesa and Tannen's friendship
and how does that affect your friendship with Tannen?
What is that Gonesa and Tannen's friendship
it really doesn't do anything to me.
It's like, that's, that's her choice
and that's what she wants.
Good for her.
The fact that she can be friends with me
and now she can be her bestie,
that's, that actually says a lot.
So, I'm just gonna leave it as is.
So, you know what, let me actually add one more thing.
The fact that you can just go through life,
change color because of the situation and circumstances
and what you can get out of it,
that is actually very alarming to me.
I'm like, if you can literally turn you back
and become a different person
and associate with someone very different
with a very different kind of behavior,
well, that says a lot about you.
In the finale, yeah.
I mean, I will say I was,
I guess I'm not shocked
because Gonesa seems to be willing to do whatever.
But yeah, throwing that drink on you
was, was crazy behavior on her part.
Like, I mean, that's, it was a crass thing to do at a party.
Especially, you know, it being Tannen's party,
you don't, like, I know you're making TV
showing you want drama,
but like, that's really,
you need to throw a drink on someone, that was.
It was an adult event in the middle of the day.
That was wild.
That was wild behavior.
Well, you know what?
It's like there was some stuff that you guys didn't see
because at first she starts throwing grapes and it was,
and then she was keep doing kind of like a weird random thing
or like running behind me
and then pushing people,
and then hoping that someone is gonna, you know,
is gonna push, it's like a really crazy childish thing.
And that was the last day of filming.
And I was like, you know what?
God, help me to just get over this.
I got there literally last minute.
I'm like, you know what?
I don't care.
It's for me, it's just like,
I wanted to go just show my support to Tannen
and you know, get it over with.
But for some reason, in the back of my head,
I knew that they're like waiting, you know,
they've been waiting for them for this kind of moment.
They definitely came across when they were accusing you
of talking shit and saying that you were implying
or saying that they're just drama queens,
but they're beneath me.
Well, they were doing the very thing
that they were upset that you were saying,
that they were doing.
They were like, they were literally standing there
creating drama.
You called them hyenas and you said
that they were waiting just to attack.
Which was, you see their faces?
Which was, this was not, this was not scripted.
This none of this is like nobody told them to do this,
but did you see their faces?
Okay, so it looks just like hyenas.
They're always in the corner.
They're always sticking together.
And they're always just like,
what are we gonna do?
Did you see her?
And did you see what she comes?
Oh my gosh, she's walking.
Oh, did you see what she's wearing?
Oh my God, this is so exhausting.
Get a life to please get a life.
So can I ask them, what's your opinion
on Gigi Resa and Mercedes today?
To be honest, always too.
I can't really involve Mercedes with Resa and Gonessa
and now Tannin is like joining that group
because Mercedes, she has a good heart.
She's also trying to create the storyline,
but she's not as negative.
So I can't put her in the same category.
I have to tell you this.
She's not my friend.
I'm not saying we're friends,
but she's not like my buddy.
I'm not protecting her.
I'm just saying that she's a little bit different.
She's actually pretty chill.
And I think her concentration is her family.
No matter what she's going through right now,
the wars, all of those situations, that's also tough.
But I think she's her concentration,
it's her family and her son.
And I give her a lot of credit for that.
Do you have any thoughts on Resa?
Resa, it's honestly, I don't even know how
to express myself about this man
because it is so sad to just go around
and use anything and everything
to trash people and to try to ruin their reputation
or sing some nonsense.
It's just really, really sad.
Honestly, it's just, I feel bad for him.
That's all I can say.
I really feel bad for him.
And I really hope that one day he wake up in the morning
and say, hey, listen, enough is enough.
So just do something better in life
instead of just going around
and trying to create drama out of other people's life.
So let's assume you're going to come back
for season two, I'm assuming.
I hope so.
Honestly, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a lot for me to handle.
But at the same time, I honestly don't want
to give that kind of a satisfaction to them
because that's exactly what they have been doing.
You know, creating so much hatred and bullying.
I just wanted to say, I would love to see you come back
for season two and some of my favorite moments
of this season, one of which was you talking
to your sister about your father,
which I thought was like very vulnerable
and very open and very honest.
Thank you.
Tannen also was talking, I think, to Mercedes,
but she had shared about like you moving to America by yourself
and not having family out here.
So I think that it would be really nice
if you came back for season two
and I think that you sharing more of your story
is something that people would be really interested in
because I think that there's a lot of depth to you
and I think that there's a lot of narrative
being created around your person.
But I think that's what's going to shine through
in season two.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I mean, honestly, even when I accepted
to be a part of this reality show,
it wasn't just about like, you know,
trying to promote my business or just for that.
It was actually, I never wanted to promote myself.
I'm not the type that trying to get attention
or being famous or getting kind of like a recognition
when I go out, I don't, actually, I don't even like it.
All I wanted to just promote my business,
but at the same time, I also wanted to make my culture proud.
My people proud.
Does bombshot want to come back next season too?
He's also the same age.
He's like, you know what, this was a lot, this was tough.
And he's like, I don't even know how to interact with them now.
I'm like, I know.
It's not that we have problems with all of them,
but the fact that now they're all like ganging up
and they're like having each other's back
and they're like, oh, you know,
that's just exclude sky and bombshot.
It's kind of, it's going to be very challenging for us
to come back and blend in, you know.
First of all, we're never going to blend in.
That's for sure because we're very different.
And I'm just going to say it over and over
that we're not the same.
We're not the same.
We have a very different kind of like a standard in life,
different boundary.
I'm a little bit more harsh than bombshot,
but, you know, I draw the line.
I don't care who you are, what you're getting out of it,
I'm not going to go out of my way to blend in
or try to shine.
I am who I am.
You like it?
Thank you very much.
You don't like it?
Still, thank you.
Please continue with your life.
I mean, I just want to say I've loved you the whole show.
Like, I know maybe you're getting a lot of comments
and what it might be online,
but I think we always need the person that's standing out
and like an underdog amongst the cast.
I think a lot of people know these personalities
from previous shows,
and I think you're one of the new personalities
that was a perfect fit.
Thank you so much.
You know what?
It's interesting because most of...
I do get a lot of amazing, beautiful, positive messages
every day, but most of the people that they send me
a private message on my DM,
and I actually really like it,
because they're like, this is too much.
We don't want to get involved,
but we wanted to tell you how we feel or kids,
you know, it's like our teenager,
they're obsessed with you and they're looking up
and they're like, oh, look, she's standing up for herself.
I'm like, you know what?
That makes me so happy and proud as a mom.
When I see the younger generation,
they don't look at me as a stuck up person,
because I'm not, you know, I do have a standard in life,
but I'm not a stuck up at all.
The fact that is like the younger generation,
they look at me as a strong woman
who is standing up for herself.
That's everything for me.
I also would just like to say as someone
who loves to make fun of the valley
and not moving to the valley,
I really, really resonated with you
not wanting to live in the valley.
Thank you very much.
Well, I, you know, we live in the valley.
I just want to point out that we, you know.
No, like, girl, you get it.
I promise that I don't look at,
look down on the people who live in the valley.
I have nothing against the people in the valley.
And as I mentioned before, I'm going to say it again,
people keep saying that,
oh, you think you're good.
You're too good for the valley.
There is a house in the valley
is actually more expensive than the house in Beverly Hills
and Bella or, you know,
and the other side of the hill that I want in there, right?
So I love that how they're rewriting,
but I have nothing against the people
and the valley, the valley is just far from it.
Literally, we do have an airline.
We have an airline in Beverly Hills too.
It's the most accessible part of it.
So does mid-city, Diva.
Oh, mid-city, go for it.
Talk about being trapped.
Hey, okay.
Why you still live in mid-city?
I actually love mid-city.
Thank you.
Literally in the middle of everywhere.
Thank you.
It's actually very accessible.
No, it's stuck.
It's accessible.
Wait, Sky, do you actually love airline
and do you shop there often?
I actually have been shopping from AirOne since 2012,
13, actually.
Okay.
Yes, and do you want me to show you my membership?
What do you want you to show us, whatever you want to show us?
I want to show you because this people things
that this is, I'm getting credit for myself
or, you know, I'm just making myself interesting.
That's not, it's lifestyle, you know?
I really care what I eat, what I do,
what I put on my skin.
I really care how I design my house, the stuff I buy.
This is not for validation.
This is just who I am and you don't like it.
You want to look down and say, oh, I'm pretentious.
Okay.
Go for it.
Okay.
So can you see my name?
Uh-huh.
Okay, so do you see them?
What is I said on their members since?
16.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's 2016.
But you know why?
Because the system, the membership, they created on 2017.
They didn't start it.
Yeah.
I started going there three years before.
So, but ever since I am a member and then I wish I could just show you guys something
that did you stick out of the first one, create, isn't the first one created on Beverly?
Yes.
Beverly Boulevard.
There it is.
Because I used to live there actually.
I used to live on orange drive and Beverly Boulevard.
It was literally right next to my house.
I was housed in eighth street.
I know exactly.
Oh, you were neighbor.
Hey, friend.
I love it.
So, yeah, it's like, this is like, this is nothing new.
Yeah.
This has been going on for years and years.
And guess what?
I'm going to show you one more thing because I love the fact that people keep using this
and they keep saying everyone.
And I feel like it's like at this point, I should just have a share at everyone.
The answer is, some something, I'm not going to everyone to buy a shake.
OK?
So, do you see this?
Receipts.
Do you see this?
Proof's...
Proof's.
This is everyday.
Proof.
Everything.
Everdoes.
...is everyday.
This is not a shake, okay?
This is like my life's stuff.
ð The food I've been feeding my family for the past fifteen years.
If you don't get an air one sponsorship after this interview, I don't...
At least a hundred dollar gift card or something you should know you should get your own you should be able to make your
I can still go by the way
I want to be able to go in in order to my the sky smoothie the sky smoothie
What would be in the sky smoothie?
Oh, I thought about it actually you know one one of the smoothie they have it's cocoa cloud
I love blue so it has a blue algae and it's my favorite because it's not too sweet
And it has all the minerals and it has all the nutrition in it
If I ever
Create the shake it will be kind of like similar to that and I'm gonna name it
Them skies the limit
Definitely is going to be blue and it's going to be with the blue algae. She said I have a I have a messy question for you
Sky
Being someone who cares about what you put in your body and your face. Have you used tannins facial oil yet?
Never how did your dog like it?
They didn't like it
They're like mom, please don't do it. Thanks. Thanks. No. Thank you
But now I have an idea. I'm like I might actually create the oil for the dogs. Oh
There you go
It gives me a very good idea that I'm like why why no actually don't have a fluffy dogs and they're they're
They have a very curly hair. I'm like, you know what maybe I should actually create a good oil for the dogs
So I think people will love it and I'm gonna make sure that there is no preservative in there
I'll make sure I know the shelf live and I know exactly how to store it
So I'll make sure if I create something I know all the details about
What's it? I'm curious what your thoughts are on the $20 strawberry and the $20 bag of ice
It's interesting because the ice is a stupid to buy it from error one
So you just have to be smart what you buy from this store and this strawberry
It's actually Harry's berry is 24 is not even 20. Okay, and I am
Tastes amazing, but I'm not a fan and I tell you why because I have a device
That you poke your fruits and vegetables and you meet and it will show you the level of the nitrate in your fruits and vegetables
And you know is all the pesticides and it shows the level
Harry's berry is strawberry is a very high on that nitrate and it's not safe actually
So I don't buy Harry's very
Thank you. That's a very informative literally by this device as soon as I'm done here. Sky we implore you to be on season two
Thanks. It's necessary. I mean like you have support. Yeah. Yeah, thank you your star
You're a star
Before really go just on a personal level obviously the lot going on in the world
And it's very scary times, but I believe you have family where the war is going on
And I just wanted to check in and if you know, just wanted to give you a chance if you wanted to to to speak on your
Just personal experience with what's going on in the world today
Yes
I'm not really a emotional person
Sorry, okay, take your time. It's a lot going on and having my family there
It's not just one my family. It's about all the other people that
They've been suffering for many years and this is what they're going through now
It really breaks my heart and obviously we can't do anything about it
But to just sit and watch and just pray but
They're all very devastated. They're all very scared and then no matter what comes out of this there is always a lot of
innocent people and all the civilians are going to die no matter what
And it's just
Really really hard to watch what's happening
I honestly don't know what to say is just devastating for me and obviously my dad is
Not even doing good and then he's in the middle of all this
It's really really really devastating
Well my heart goes out to you and your family and you know your entire community and obviously like you said
It's just devastating what's going on and we're certainly just praying for everyone involved because yeah
Obviously, you know, it's I must obviously help us feeling so it is
It is you know as like I talked to my sister and
Sometimes I have internet sometimes they don't and then she keeps telling me sometimes she's showing me what's happening from the window
It's just the scariest things ever imagine we're like here. We're just sitting and watching but they're there
They're in the middle of it and they see exactly what's going on is like
They bomb like few streets down
They don't even have a shelter. It's not that it's like oh, you know what like most countries they go
Down to their shelter or you know, they know that they're safe. They're not
They have nowhere to go
Absolutely heartbreaking
Well, that's yeah, very sorry to hear about what's going on and just giving you and your family all the best
Sky really appreciate your time
Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you for your honesty and generosity. It's but it's been a real pleasure. Thank you
All right, thank you. All right, bye
Incredible super star. She a she's she left no crumbs. She's made for reality television. Yeah
I have to say this cast is just something else that real just perfection and I even have to say
Razza jox by the end of
This season I was like how the fuck are you gonna make the fuck boy like the voice of reason? But I was like he's my favorite
He sneaks up on you
Season started you're like, you know, you kind of roll your eyes at home and they make them seem so vapid with like the like platforms
And this like weird like blind date
Good friend to have. Yeah, because I want conflict resolution and then let's dance
I think it's like he got a he got a rough time at least in my opinion because of the fact that he's called Razza jacks
You're and it's the valley then you're gonna be like oh, so is the jacks tailor of valley person style
He's not right. He's a good heart
Obviously, it was easy to criticize Tommy this season and it's hard to watch him not show up for Mercedes
But you know, I just hearing about his childhood
I made a lot makes sense. Yeah, I mean again, it doesn't justify or excuse him
You know his shortcomings in the marriage, but you it makes it easier to empathize with what what's going on?
Even like his like tough love of it all it's like oh if you've never really experienced genuine love
And it's like the way that you know how to make to laugh at pain is to make fun of it
Then it's like it makes sense that you equate like poking fun with actual affection
Yeah, I would be curious you know, it's just like you you saw him say his vows and he's like I only have one vow is to
Forget what it was, but basically they show up for you every day and make you happy
And it's like why can't you watch the season back and whatever your reasons are just like you know
That's that's the tough part. It's like why can't you get out of your own way sometimes because it's right there
And she wants it too, you know, I think that's the tough part though
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All right, well, last thing on the docket is the reunion part three of real housewives of Potomac
Mm-hmm
Which Remonique actually recently went on Twitter and made a statement
And said a lot of time has passed since the reunion was filmed
And after gaining more info since then I don't believe Stacey had anything to do with any of that bullshit
Wow
I'll probably go live on Instagram at some point this week and give you all the entire story
Please
I haven't watched the reunion episodes yet, so let me catch up and get back to you
But I at least wanted to clear her name on all of it
Justice for Stacey exactly
Which I feel like it's a little late
No, I mean
Maybe
Maybe we should have gotten all of our info before blasting on national television
Before you made me sit there in 20 seconds of silence
To a bleep
Yeah, I couldn't even I had no idea what that phone call was
I was just like what I thought my computer broke. I was like wait, I need to fix the sound
And then we bleeped out the name every single time it just
But then randomly Chris kept getting thrown in there and I was like okay, well who else could have
I just don't know why they bothered with whatever that was because we still have no idea what it is
Well, we did have Ashley go on some
What was that interview she did where she was the panel or something where she basically gave us the backstory of what that was
Ashley said on this panel somehow they had heard this name and asked Monique about it
And unfortunately there's a lot of legality right now with what Monique is going through so she can't share it
Which really sucks, but when we all heard it when I tell you jobs were on the floor baby
Yeah, so it was her it was her child confirming Stacey it was in contact with Chris
Which now she's saying
Is it very confusing to follow are we mad at stacey are we okay with stacey was stacey dating Chris
Were they not dating were
In contact with him like when she said I don't really talk to that man, but like obviously showed messages
Like maybe she really didn't mean like I don't know
And it did feel
It felt genuine for stacey to be like I am trying to get my own family back together. Yeah, like I am not trying to break your family up
Like I'm I'm trying to work things out with my husband. I'm trying to keep our family together and in the same house
So like last thing I'm going to do is come for your family
Also even going through the season. I'm like it doesn't feel like like stacey was trying to come for anybody
She was she's she's throwing at her out of constant and then having jazzy being like or if you're still fucking him now
It was like whoa
Jazzy felt like an absolute loose cannon. I mean when they were like jazzy we're gonna have you giddy up out of here
Okay, okay now she's fighting for for a spot for sure. I think so. I think so. I think she said was like
Yeah, like throw a stone over here a stone over here, and it's just like I think she's just really trying to get out of there
There was no sure putting anything
The Wendy stuff is almost too real
Did you all notice that after Karen was like you need to stop talking and then we got into a lot of the stuff
And it felt very much like Karen was in her head with her answers and she was like
people can have their opinions of me
But I mean I don't take Karen gave her good advice. It didn't feel like in real time. She was taking Karen's advice
As she should I mean again, I we asked Monique and clearly Monique and Wendy are are close and so I'm sure she didn't really want to
You know, we asked Monique it would just I was surprised by
How talkative she was and I'm not I'm no lawyer and
But there's a reason why they say anything you can say it can be used against you in the court a lot and my
Limit experience with friends. I know who are who have lawyer who are lawyers and things like that
You don't usually try to like thread the needle, you know when she gave the like in 2024
My house and then in 2025 we got a knock at my door and Karen was like that is exactly why I told you to shut the fuck up
Yeah, exactly what you shouldn't have done and when these faces like because you better
Because like we misspeak all the time, you know, we get dates wrong
We get confused and that's normally okay, but if if we're facing
Yeah, you know, not lawsuits. She's facing a criminal federal charges. She's facing jail time and you know
Obviously like real talk like prosecutors, you know, they're public servants
But they're also like aspiring politicians and they get judged by a how much they win or lose
Those are reason why these people go after public figures and make examples of them because these public defenders can make name for them
Make names for themselves. They don't necessarily
Play fair, you know, they play within the rules of of
Legality, but like they're they're they're hoping you slip up. They're hoping you misspeak and we'll use it get you again
Use that against you in court. So yeah, it was
It was like as a fan obviously we appreciate Wendy showing up and we appreciate, you know like her speaking
But yes, it was it's just as a human from a human level. It was surprising
To see that mm-hmm
Especially with the network that she's on in the amount of people who've gotten busted for less that I'm just like it's it's talking about your opulant wealth
It's how much you're spending on things. It's like where your money is going what your priorities are
They have an entire fucking 20 episodes to go through and be like, okay, like this is what she's expense here
Oh, she's wearing this that she claimed like so I'm like and especially from Teresa Judeis from Erica Jane like looking through like how housewives
Negatively impacted their cases. Yeah, I'm just like yeah to to Karen's point keep your mouth shut
Because if they ask you something and and you repeat it incorrectly now you've lied or you've purged yourself
Yeah, I mean it was just it was so it was kind of like emotional wayplash to like see like
Karen
Absolutely going for the jugular with Wendy with like that was brutal though like shut the fuck up your mom say shut the fuck
And then even jazel being like Karen even Andy was like whoa
That was raw and then she still gives her legal advice afterwards
Cuz she's the grand dog. I was like oh wow
She is mother. Yeah, she's all crap. She's a bit crap. So I was about her. Yes
That's what I'm curious to where I'm like because I'm like I think for
Karen's case. It's a little different too because it's like
Karen's talking about it dui and trying to claim that she doesn't drink as much as it's
reported that she does
But then it's like then you go through Potomac and it's like okay, you're drinking in every scene or you're saying
You're not gonna drink and then you're drinking so I'm like there's a lot of things where I'm like
What you say in a court of law versus being on camera recorded that can be used against you because it's public information like
You know, so I'm also kind of like I think Karen and and and Wendy's situations are like a little bit different
But I'm also like uh Wendy also clarified and she did say that everything that she said on that stage was public information
That's already been out there and recorded so I'm like if that's what she feels comfortable and her legal team advised her
It's okay to be honest and do we think I mean she was like my my legal team is aware of this line of questioning like do we think
I'm sure Andy or Bravo gave yeah, I can't I mean Wendy seems like
She's a smart ass. Yeah, yeah, I mean not sloppy and not messy. You have to assume her legal team
cleared it. I just oh yeah, I mean
Like what I do it if I were in her position. No, but like like why risk it?
I don't just like it's Karen being like you should not have answered one question. Yeah, it just doesn't seem
We can just doesn't it just anyway. It is trippy
To see two cast members one person who was literally just released from prison in another person
He's handing just like you know, you see Wendy talk to Karen and like I'm the up when they're they're referring the other side of it
It's like such a meta. Yeah, and also the fact that they're not in a good place right now
Right adds to that tension. It's really interesting. It's really interesting. I don't know how many years Wendy and her husband are facing
And I'm glad Karen's out and back on our TV screens, but I'm much my understanding that Wendy's facing more jail time
And and when you think about like a white collar crime versus like someone like
If prosecuted up to 15 years. Yeah, I was like we're talking about a fourth DUI where it's like obviously you're gonna have some jail time
Weird right, but I'm like for Wendy. It's just very interesting because it's like this like, you know
I'll have my day in court also angels
Closing sentence of like I hope justice is served. I was like that was fucking brutal
I will say though Wendy's explanation of the credit card aliases made total sense. Absolutely. I kind of said that too
I was like she's absolved in my opinion Pam Oliver. I fucking get it
I have a lot of friends that have pseudonyms because it just makes traveling and makes right getting packages and what not so much easy
But why so many like why wouldn't you just always use Pam Oliver? It's fun
Yeah, sure
You can change your name at any time
You name you can change the clothes
That makes total sense. Yeah, I actually I and as she said that it was never used for any financial
purposes, then I'm like
There's receipts to prove that so you can't say that confidently and be lying about it
All right, well, thank you to our guest sky from the Valley person set style and thank you all for listening
If you haven't listened to the Kenya episode of going deeper that dropped yesterday
You do not want to miss that if you've been in any way interested in the documentary of America's next top model
That is out on Netflix. There's also another one coming out on e
But obviously we all have been very fascinated with that story and all the
Experiences that these people have but we finally got to hear from one of the models Kenya very kind of a big
Presence on that show and part of the documentaries and she shares her she shared her experience with us
On yesterday's episode of going deeper. So be sure to check that out
Also, don't forget file files plus add free and update special and all your favorite deep dives for really recap
Are available just go to vifiles.com check it out. Uh, we will see you next week
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