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What's going on everybody welcome back to another exciting episode of the file files reality recap edition

John by I am the host and forgot and he's not only the host of the file files reality recap edition he is also the host of age of attraction.

Yeah, the sidekick now he's a real star. She really shines.

You I think they just gave me some good lines for the trailer.

No, I don't only mean that like you're really great. You're really I mean you know and it just makes sense that you.

I don't know I feel like I because I felt like I kind of got close to our couples you know and so I feel like I.

I hope it comes across like we're friends and not like.

I'm trying too hard I don't know how was your first hosting experience.

It was crazy I've never been on a real set before you know I've done like modeling jobs but this was like full.

Crazy huge production.

I just think I only has a presence that I think really shines as a host.

That's very wrong.

I saw the trailer this morning and I feel like every clip that they release I'm like please please.

Yeah, like when it comes sooner.

Yeah, it's really it's really exciting.

You do not only art you're eating.

And you guys watch some of the clips what do you know am I just being a biased husband who's.

You're for sure you know there's like you for sure are.

Yeah, no I'm not biased.

Yeah, but we do not handcuff our voices and we you you you certainly exist in the show.

You know, I was going to say it feels no it's good.

I'm I've really enjoyed the stuff I've seen of it.

I think there's certainly some drama.

Yeah, well the trailer did drop yesterday.

So we do have that to play the full trailer.

It's the it's the juice.

I have dated guys who are my age because it was the right thing to do.

And it didn't work out obviously.

Here you'll be dating and even committing without ever knowing how old your partner is.

Are you ready?

Yeah.

I don't know if these guys are my grandpa's age.

Would you know the spice girls are?

I couldn't be one.

The best three-minute date I've ever had.

I'm not going to lie.

I like the mom.

You do? Do you have mommy issues?

If you're not as hot as my mom, I'm not going to marry you.

If you feel as if you found that special connection, all that's left is revealing.

Your age.

I am.

Catch a seat or not.

I didn't even know there were 60-year-olds here.

I don't want to fit in a box.

Why does it matter how old I am?

Do you stay together and plan for a future

or leave this experience the same way you entered it alone?

I'm definitely worried.

What would my family think?

Children?

Yeah.

And you hated babysitting.

I just want to make sure you're thinking realistically.

I don't need to hear it.

I'm sorry it just got said.

I'm starting to see red flags.

She doesn't know you're kids?

That's unacceptable.

Period.

Might do something crazy.

You know, I do.

Trying to roll with that whole age is just a number thing.

Oh my god, it looks so good.

So good.

Yeah, we're excited.

I mean, listen, obviously the premise, I think, is

drawing people in.

I mean, for us, like I think we said before,

we obviously got asked to be the host because we represent...

The blueprint.

We represent the age difference couples.

Similar to love is blind.

It's asking a question.

Can people, like, I think there's, you know,

people have been fascinated with people

in age difference relationships.

And I think sometimes those relationships,

you know, get picked apart, get criticized.

Sometimes that criticism is fair.

Not every couple that is an age difference relationship,

works out, you know, and I think this is exploring

in a world where people are just having harder

and harder times making connections

and finding their person and are being frustrated with their picker

or, you know, kind of, you know, the people they're selecting.

It's just like asking if you open up the possibilities

of just like leaning into making, you know,

finding who you're compatible with, common interests

and things like that, could you find something special?

Like for me, you know, obviously we've talked,

I've talked at great length about like,

when I met Natalie, my reservations,

obviously I found her attractive and I thought she was charming

and we had a lot of fun together,

but I wasn't really sure.

And then once obviously I, you know,

leaned into that relationship,

she's changed my life in unimaginable ways.

Like, I, you know, in every measurable way,

now my life is better.

I mean, I was living in Venice

in a two bedroom on the beach,

just very like bachelor life, you know,

and I had this show and the show was doing great,

but ever since, you know, like in every,

I have my family, I have my child,

I have this, this show and this company

has like, exponentially grown.

Everything I have in my life is just like so much better

because of the person I found.

And then this, the idea that like if you're open to

thinking outside of the box,

you might find someone who really, you know,

makes your world that much better as well.

That's what I hope people when they're watching this show,

you know, enjoy watching and this,

I think there's some really great connections.

It seems like Sienna Miller might also be watching.

I hope so.

She's saying.

Why is that?

Sienna Miller.

Sienna.

Sienna.

Oh, sorry.

See, that's giving age gap.

Age gap.

Age gap.

You know, different.

Do you know just Sienna Miller is?

I'm going to Google it.

Not to be confused with Summer House star Sierra Miller.

She, her quote, was the idea of an older woman

with a younger man is still fetishized rather than normalized.

There's a disparity there that I would love to see disappear,

which is so true.

And I think you could see it with some of these women,

which was like, this isn't as normal

and we're going to get looked at.

Whereas an older man with a younger woman,

it's like, you see that every day.

Yeah, you know, some people like criticize me,

but other people will celebrate me, you know,

throughout the show,

you really see these women start to feel empowered,

you know, and like come into their,

like, oh, shit.

Like, no, why the fuck can't I do this?

You know what I'm saying?

Which we love to see.

So yes, it's definitely difference.

And I think a lot of people,

I think a lot of the discourse and discussions

will be around your question in terms of like,

to see an Amerler, it's just like, okay,

well, if it ends up being like your person,

then I guess we can allow it.

Mm-hmm.

But maybe she just wants to fuck around.

And find out.

Yeah, let her find out.

And have that be normalized to like, you know,

I'm here for that movement.

Hey, let people fuck around.

Let people find out.

Yeah, I'm going to have Debbie Moore

was dating Ashton Kutcher and they were just like,

oh, my God, how could she?

And it's just like, it was Ashton Kutcher in the early 2000s.

Yeah, you're gonna say no, maybe now.

But then, genuinely.

My God.

Well, we have to talk about the new cast of Rony.

Yeah.

This is my favorite story on the internet right now.

Carol.

No.

Even Carol, bitch.

Not even Carol.

We're going Haley Glassman.

We're going.

Friend of show Claudia Asher made a hilarious TikTok,

exposing Haley Glassman as one of her trolls.

And by troll, I mean, and I relate to this.

And I'm sure many people in reality,

you know, who have a following.

But you know, if you check your DMs,

which I have in the past and with any regularity,

every once in a while, there's like,

it's not, I'm not talking about a troll in the comment

or like someone who just like is responding

to a very specific post or a take and, you know,

that they disagree with.

But someone who like on a weekly,

sometimes daily basis,

just sends you the most outrageous things,

you know, where they're just like,

they won't supply to a story be like,

you, you're ugly, you know?

And it's just like, okay.

Like very high school bullying is done.

Just to come out of your day.

I'm so sorry.

And it's like consistent.

So when Bravo announced the new cast of Rony,

Claudia's like, why does Haley Glassman

sound so familiar?

Oh my god.

I know that name.

So she like, Google's her, looks at her Instagram.

She's like, I don't like recognize her.

That's not like, I like know her from anything.

Then she goes to their messages.

And she's like, oh, yes.

It's like Nick and Chanel, I know her.

And it's crazy because it's like,

no, that was a one off.

I know, she's like body shaming her.

Or in the next, like awful things.

The next one will be like, you got this, mama.

And it's like, whoa.

Oh, so she's going to be perfect for this show.

It's something like, it's crazy how you were

smaller as a pregnant person than before or something.

And it was just like the most like brutal thing.

So you're like, excuse me.

And then the next one's like, slay mama.

Muzzle talk.

It's like, I mean, so sorry, that happened to Claudia,

but see that, no, Claudia was like, who is,

where is the bottom of the barrel that Bravo

is scraping to find these people?

Because they are like finding some random person

who's trolling.

You know, it's like, it's the Monica rule.

I mean, that's literally what she said.

I'm not saying it's Claudia, she was like,

this is the best day of my life.

I think she's okay.

Good.

I mean, like she's, because this is awesome.

No, it's, I mean, no, truly, I was like,

I was fascinated watching it because again, think about it.

Like when you're, when you see these comments, right?

A lot of these comments, their counts are private.

Their profile picture is like, I don't know.

You don't really know who they are, right?

Me and my family.

You know, you don't really know who they are.

And then obviously the typical response is like,

this must be someone with like a mental health issue

because this behavior online is like,

it's like kind of bizarre.

It just seems like it does nothing really to do with you.

It's not even objective feedback.

It's just like someone who's going out of the way

to take a time, clearly there's some kind of obsession

who just is trying to trigger you.

Like they're, they're, it's not this objective feedback.

And to come to find out, this is like someone who,

by all accounts, should have better things to do.

Has a life, like has connections and money in a,

like a family, you know?

It's capable of being considered,

of being, of being out of the way.

And this person is so obsessed with you

that they are taking the time out of your day to send that

is like, honestly, such a rewarding feeling.

It's so awesome.

It's such an amazing.

It's so cool.

Wait, I just pulled up an article about her

and it says,

Glossmann is a public relations professional for over 10 years.

She's in the pants and like, this is like,

this is like, this is a contrary member of society.

And she's a publicist.

She's already a star, mama.

But you know what I'm saying?

Like, she's trolling so much in the public space.

And she's like,

it's her real account.

Like.

She presents is like, not the person

who's living in their garage, who like, you know,

who's like, oh, don't worry, honey,

that's just someone in their basement.

Or like their mother's basement who's like, so unhappy.

And it's like, no, it's a publicist living in New York City

who is a housewife of New York City.

She's got a LinkedIn, baby.

Yeah.

No, she's, she's evil messaging you from LinkedIn.

I do think it's interesting what Natalie was saying

about like, are we scraping the bottom of the barrel?

I've been thinking about this.

I don't think the term scraping the bottom of the barrels

what I think, but I think we're entering an era of wild cards.

And that's where like, you have Monica, you have Amanda,

where it's like, you're pulling these people

that don't fit the mold of what the cast is

and like, just see what they cause

and they cause really good seasons.

Like, they shift the narratives and it caused divide.

Do they cause longevity?

Like, are we getting more OGs?

Are we getting our life?

That's what I'm saying.

So I think it's like the wild card era

and then they're throwing back in these OGs.

Then you have the grudges that also come back

and then Carol Rasmus, where it's like,

they know that they need to like feed the audience,

but also break the housewives out of their garage.

I just think they're discounting how common and normal

this type of behavior is.

That's so normal.

But that's I think the issue is like,

you're now putting a woman who has,

now we know is like a troll online

to like be in a safe place with our other housewives.

Like, I kind of love it.

I love that they're casting the wild cards.

I think like we, even with Beverly Hills

and I think it's a good show,

but everybody critiques it up like,

there's no story lines because people are comfortable.

Like, I think you need these wild cards to come in

and like make someone be like, wait,

so you've been like shit talking someone

or like, wait, you have a Insta account?

Well, that's why I think you need an OG too.

So like, that's where I'm like the collaboration

of Carol Radswell with this Haley Glassman.

Like, Carol's like a journalist.

Like, she is a professional.

She has been on housewives for five years

with Bethany Frankl running up against Futing

with Bethany Frankl.

This woman can handle anybody.

So that's where I'm like,

But like after seeing Claudia's post,

I am so locked in.

Rob Roush has a new professional endeavor.

I don't know if you've seen it.

He is going into the world of voice acting, A Radica.

Me neither.

Who is it nowadays?

I mean, what?

You have Canada, Shane Hollander

and Russia's Ilya Rosanov and Rob Roush.

I do love that.

And listen, from one Southern bell to the next,

I love that his accent is so much thicker

in his A Radica series than it is

in literally anywhere else.

I do think that that is when he needs to turn it on the most.

For sure.

He's literally performing.

Should be allowed.

Did you also see his dad?

No.

Is his dad a hunk?

I saw a...

An unverified reel.

Uh-huh.

Unverified.

Well, it's just like I saw it on the internet

and someone would be like,

this is Rob's dad.

I thought it was AI,

but no, it's really his dad.

No, it's the hottest man alive.

I mean, they have the hot family.

Yeah, I don't think so.

I'm looking at it.

Like better, I mean, arguably better looking than Rob.

Stop it.

Okay, now I need to see.

I mean, it's shocking how hot he is.

And he's giving like dad wearing vans, you know?

Like kind of cool.

Mm-hmm.

Oh my goodness.

The jeans run strong.

He's jacked.

He's also a male model.

That's a photo shoot.

Yeah.

He's one of those guys, you know,

silver foxes where you see

and they're like, you know, like how old are they?

And they're like, could be 16.

They could be 40.

He looks like the like hot dad

that's in the background of a, like a frame.

And you're like, like that frame, but you like don't know why.

And then you never replace the photo.

And you're like, what, who is this family?

And you're like, I don't know, that was really not sad.

I hope.

No, it's literally.

He does.

He does like, he should be sitting in a home good place.

100%.

He looks like he should be sitting.

That sweater, that facial hair.

Wait, guys, I feel personally very offended by Vulture.

And I love Vulture.

But why are they calling for a band of housewives on traders?

I feel like that's just one man's opinion.

So unnecessary.

Of course it's a man.

Right.

Of course it's a man.

Really, everything.

Wait, what are you talking about?

Vulture is calling for a band of housewives on traders.

They're saying, OK, there was one opinion piece on Vulture

that called for a housewife.

But that is a Vulture housewife.

That's about me.

I was like, that's their reasoning for banning housewives,

wanting to ban housewives.

They're claiming for like after like a lackluster reunion.

It became clear that housewives don't want to play the trader's game.

Like I think it's just, they want to play the real housewives

of the highlands and have arguments that spill out

into social media, then meet up for a housewife's job reunion

with their patron Andy Cohen.

Contrast this season couldn't have been clear.

Rob Rosh played a near-perfect game,

always saying Candice made mistakes

as most traders' consultants do to be fair,

then spend the better part of two months

telling any Instagram follower or a podcast host

who would listen about how they were betrayed in a game

where that's literally the name of the game.

However, that's the fun of the show.

That is true.

That's what makes it good TV.

One, I don't watch traders for the reunion.

Yeah, yeah, no.

Like I'm glad they gave us one.

There's some like couple takeaways,

but like it's not the same is like, say Potomac

where we're like really trying to peel back the layers

of some of these interpersonal relationships in drama.

This is a game.

Yeah.

So like, you know, we can talk a little bit strategy,

but like that's not why they didn't give us a reunion.

I think we'd all like be okay.

You could have saved your traders' reunion

and given me the Valley Persian style reunion,

you could have given me this Vanderpump rules season reunion,

but like I did not need to go over the game that I just watched.

Two, if you're...

For everyone to just say like,

it's a game.

Mora, you were so shocked.

Yeah, I was so shocked.

I had no idea.

I know I literally just watched that at the finale.

This is a competition show about how you manage

interpersonal relationships in different dynamics

and how you like play with that.

And so casting obviously a lot of reality TV stars,

many of which are from the bravo sphere

because it's on peacock, it makes a lot of sense.

But if you let's say you are a fan,

let's say you're a gamer, you're a brother fan,

you're a trader, you're a survivor fan.

Do you give a fuck in the middle of the season

that Candace is in the comments with Rob being messy?

You probably don't even know what her Instagram account is.

But if you are a bravo fan and you're a housewife fan,

you're eating that shit up

and that is why you're watching it

because you want to see them be messy

for no fucking reason.

And you want, you know, like, so you're giving a little bit

to each of their fan bases and why they watch.

It's just like, it's not that serious.

If I wanted to watch gamer shows,

I would watch like a gamer show.

Yeah, that's how I feel about traders.

It's like, you're on my network.

Yeah, it's like survivor exists for a reason,

like big brother exists for a reason

and they're great shows and they're awesome.

It's a different skill set.

And I think what's interesting about traders

is mixing the two.

And you have to get, it makes Rob's victory

that much more impressive

because he is not someone I assume

who's watching a lot of housewives

who doesn't really probably didn't really know the lore,

probably didn't realize that these are people

who are just professional potsters, you know?

Like there's not like an objectiveness

to them stirring the pot

and he was able to pick up on that quick enough

and being partnered with two housewives as traders

and was able to eliminate them without being found out.

I mean, that makes it that much more impressive

because housewives are so unpredictable

and like in bravo celebrities in general

are so unpredictable because like these are people

who like don't go on a, you know, survivor traders,

they go on an island, they go in a locker room,

they're in this again, another social experiment.

When they're in that world, it's, you know,

and they come out of it,

they go back to their normal lives.

If you go on the bachelor, very similar thing,

like you immerse yourself in this world,

you come out and it's somewhat normal.

Bravo celebrities, there's just,

there's for so many of these people,

there's no stopping and starting.

They can't, they lose themselves and their characters.

They're meeting up with bloggers to like make sure

that these people like hear their version of their truth

because their competitor and friend

is also meeting up with their bloggers

and like it's just this whole crazy world.

They're also just good with their words

and like witty, so for Rob to your point

to be able to like push against that

and survive through it is a credit.

I was calling for a whole season of traders with housewives

and then I saw this and I was like, who said that?

Who said that?

Yeah, I was like, where did that come from?

Who said that?

If you want a more gamey type of traders,

one, they are coming out with a civilian traders,

which won't have any housewives, so.

And there's also go watch like some of the other,

like UK version, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, sure.

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Oh yeah, isn't there enough run?

There's some hand in God way.

Yeah.

But like, what is it?

The Spice Girl on it.

Mel-B, Mel-B.

I guess they're...

You can name a Spice Girl.

Remember, they did like the reality TV version of it.

So I guess now this is like their...

Yeah, but like, yeah, it is curious how they'll do it.

And they were wearing the masks

as if they were the people who, you know,

on squid games, like the VIP people.

And obviously this good game,

it starts with like hundreds of people.

They're only casting.

I was about to say, yeah, there wasn't that many.

It wasn't enough celebrity presence in this.

I'm definitely just intrigued, right?

I mean, just like competition shows,

trader, all the traders and things like that

are just height of its popularity.

And the squid game, obviously,

is an incredible brand and IP for Netflix.

And yeah.

And honestly, I do love a reality TV show

that's gone like a couple seasons like this.

And then they're like, you know what?

Let's add.

Let's switch some things up.

And let's keep it interesting.

It's great.

It's great.

I mean, I've always felt, I don't know.

I've never...

I watched like the original squid game show.

And then like, when they started doing

the reality TV version of it, I'm like, I was...

I mean, I was...

Oh my God.

I know.

I heard it was good, but in my brain,

I was always like, doesn't this kind of go

against the entire point of the show squid game?

Oh, so...

I don't know.

It just felt odd.

I don't know.

I mean, nobody dies.

I know nobody dies, but it was just the same murder.

It's definitely not.

I don't know.

I'm still competing for the money.

I don't know.

I mean, I didn't watch the reality show version of it.

I just remember when it came out.

I was like, this seems odd.

It was remarkably the same.

Yeah.

That was like...

They all acted like they were dead.

I'm mentally not strong enough to sleep in a room

with that many people on bunk beds.

That's already enough for me.

They're like bunk beds, yeah.

Fighting for a can of tuna, I can do it.

Yeah.

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Now, we have an amazing episode for you.

A sky from the Valley Person Sales with us.

I expected it to be a good interview.

I didn't expect that.

Yeah.

It was amazing.

And by that, I mean,

I feel like a dog was my head out the window.

Like, I'm so happy right now, you know, just.

I love that.

She did not hold back.

No, she did not.

No.

So.

There was now like, how do I say this?

No, it was straight forward direct.

And that's how I like my reality TV stars.

Really just a beautiful, beautiful interview.

Yes.

Speaking of reality TV stars,

has anybody seen the Marie Claire interview

that Amanda Batulla just did?

Her about it.

I haven't read it.

I mean, the photos, she looks absolutely phenomenal.

But a couple of things that she clarified

was a bit about their separation.

She said, I moved out in November.

We were separated,

but agreed not to see other people.

The plan was to date each other, work on our relationship

and take some space.

But that space made us realize

that the separation should be permanent.

Love that.

I was like, at least they tried something different

and it didn't work out for them.

That what point was Kyle allegedly seeing

making out with people?

I'm assuming that was this year.

Right, are you talking about this?

I don't know.

Like when they decided to separate

like how long ago was that, you know, like, was that like,

I believe that they separate.

When they agreed not to see other people.

She said that October is when they separated

then she moved out in November.

But like they, she moved out with the intention

of them like dating each other

and not seeing other people.

And then during that time of being separated

it was just like, it's not working.

And I thought something that I really like

that she did was kind of, she came for,

she came into fence of Kyle.

Kyle's been, you know, getting it pretty hard in the comments.

He's right now in this position

where nothing he does works for anybody.

So yeah, it's a dog pile.

So she said, I don't care how awful of a person

you think Kyle was or how terribly you feel

he treated me to attack him when he's going through

this separation while he's also dealing

with the pain and the fallout of the relationship.

Don't be a man when he's down.

We still love each other very much.

I mean, I mean, obviously agree with that statement.

But I am curious from her perception

or like her point of view or just the rest of the cast.

Obviously this show, you know, we watch these shows.

We critique it, we give our opinions.

We very Monday morning and quarter back it.

Like very much like sports will be like,

oh my God, you watch that game.

I can't believe that he dropped that pass

or I hated that play, whatever.

I hated when he cheated on his girlfriend.

Yeah, for sure.

And as fans of reality TV, we love to have these discourses

and then at times that includes critiques of our characters.

Now I personally feel like that's a completely different line

than say like going in people's comments.

Certainly their DMs, which is a whole another like

and saying like just like attacking them

as a man that points out.

But I'm wondering when she says that,

does she include like shows like ours?

Or like do they think that's, you know,

when we're sitting there talking about like

can't believe Kyle does this and blah, blah, blah.

And critiques the behavior of watching.

I wonder if they take that personally.

I'm sure they take all of it personally.

You know, when you're going through something,

you don't have the ability to like separate.

I think I don't think they're go, they're,

they have a lens of like, oh, that's okay,

but this isn't okay.

Well, I mean, we've met, we've met a lot of our guests.

Well, you know, you know, sometimes we've critiqued them

and they've come on and we're always like curious.

Sometimes we wonder if they come in.

And there's a lot of them are like, no,

I mean, listen, I totally get it.

This is what it's like a show is.

It's a job.

We've a lot of, especially Bravo fans,

like understand that this, this show is,

you know, you want the fans to engage.

It's just a matter of like, do they, you know,

there's a line across.

There's like, you can talk about it.

You can critique it.

There's a difference between like, you,

you should assume that people are reading their own comments.

Sure.

And if you're going, it's like showing up at their house.

It's like showing up at their digital house, so to speak,

and throwing eggs at their house.

And it's like, that's, there's a level of,

but I'd be curious if they're, you know,

I also think that there's like a difference,

but I'm like, we're a show that recaps shows.

And so obviously what you're showing

and what's going on in context around that show being on air

is one thing.

The laboring the situation, like if every week

we're talking about their breakup or like what a piece of shit

Kyle is or whatever, then I'm like,

I think that's kind of to the point where she's like,

Kyle's dealing with what he's dealing with on his own.

I don't think we need to like pour more salt into the wound.

Obviously, when you put it an announcement out there,

people are going to react to it, whether they're shocked,

whether they expected it.

But I'm like, it's, I think it's just making it a point

of topic of conversation when it doesn't,

when it's not necessary.

I feel like it's, it's an interesting situation

to be covering summer house right now

with Amanda and Kyle separation

because they're at a point now where they have figured it out

and they seem to be in a place where they are respectful

for each other, instead of love for each other.

And that's amazing.

And that's what you want in that situation, right?

If that's going to happen, like you want it to be,

like you want to still feel like you can have a relationship

with that person.

Amicable, yes, that's the word.

But we're talking about a show where you're seeing

the end of their relationship pretty much.

And this is the worst that it got for them at this point.

Like if you think about the timeline,

they separate, like they separate in October

when with summer house films.

Would you like?

Yeah.

So it's like, it's just hard to see,

to like want to kind of be respectful

about where they are now,

but you're also seeing like the worst.

It's a full day.

It's a full day thing, you know?

It's also, I'm asking that then the question is is like,

how much of this is real and how much of this

is them leaning in, you know?

I've said this before many times, I think,

is from my understanding of how reality TV is made,

and I've seen a lot of different reality TV made.

I think like, for example, the Bachelor Show is one of the most

that the least scripted, least staged reality TV shows.

But even in that show, you know,

I, when I was on Paradise,

I willingly walked the beach looking sad

when I didn't give a fuck so they can make a, you know,

and then I was like, didn't know exactly how they would use it.

But you knew you were doing that for TV?

Yeah, and then they made it seem like I was all sad

about these dates.

I agreed to go on for them when I had no actual interest

in these people and pretend that I did.

Did they know that that's how you felt about it?

Of course.

Interesting.

So like when that was scripted?

Literally got in the car.

Like, you know, it was, I don't know if you remember,

Chad, Bed Chad, whatever, and he went home early

and like that was not something they were expecting

for him to get that drunk that fast.

That was the whistling in the woods in the dark, right?

Well, that's him that was on JoJo season.

But then he came, I'm paradise that season.

Oh, yeah.

And he would, I mean, he crossed a line of like,

we can't let this guy stay on.

You're right.

And that started a whole, like, you know,

on the producers.

Yeah, but how is that, to see your response?

How is that not scripted?

No, it is.

I'm saying it is.

But I, you know, all reality TV on some level

has a level of inauthenticity and like people doing things

that like are just, you know, fine, what a fuck it, man.

I'll, fine, I'll do that, you know,

not because they wanted to or that's like at the choice

they would have made if they were just in the real world.

They were just like doing their job.

Yeah, you know, like on my season of Asher,

I really, I load the fact that they brought a bouncy castle

with Conan and I did not want to do it, you know, like,

and then I did and then everyone has these opinions

about how that looked or what I did, you know,

and I'm just like trying to like not look, you know,

make her, you know, I wanted to not have her feel out it

and things like that.

So, you know, I imagine like all these people,

like they have a TV show to make,

they have the pressure of ratings and things like that

and I'm sure they lean in at times

and the question is how much?

And so we're all watching this just as fans

taking it at face value because again, like,

it's not, it's not black or white, you know,

most of what you see on Bashar is like authentic, you know,

and again, edited, but like, yeah, it's like,

there are, they're making a TV show.

And to make a TV show, sometimes you have to,

there's a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

And then like, whether it's Kardashians or Bravo,

like the question is is how many of these scenes

are staged, rehearsed, you know, things like that?

I think various shows have various degrees of that.

And I'd be curious like on all these shows,

and specifically Summer House, like how much is Amanda

and Kyle's like willingness to just lean in a little bit,

knowing it's amazing TV, knowing that all of us

will be captivated by what we're watching,

only to like have, you know, the fans and even us,

like, you know, make statements about their character

and their behavior when they know deep down,

like that's not, you know, it's not totally authentic.

It's not me, it's not who I wanted to do,

but I decide, I agreed to do it.

It's like Summer House was like a little hard for me

on that thought because I'm like the whole point of it

is that I'm like they have the entire week

to like not be filmed.

And then it's like they come out and they have 48 hours

to like let loose over this weekend.

So I'm like to spend time to rehearse or stage a scene

where I'm like I understand because I mean, obviously,

I think it's more of the external storylines,

which I would agree are like scripted

because I'm like what was it last season?

It was Amanda and Kyle like house hunting.

And then it came out that it was like the house

was like an air in B and B or something

and that it was like that they weren't actually planning

to move into said house, but it was part of the storyline.

And it was like what Amanda wants versus what Kyle wants.

So I'm like I wonder how much is like staged

or rehearsed versus like we're gonna present something

that helps further along our storyline.

Like instead of us just sitting in the kitchen

talking about wanting to move and where we want to move,

why don't we go look at a house

and film that conversation during that?

But I mean, that's a production,

that's like full, that's a production note

of just making engaging TV.

Right.

I think there in more of it is this more nuanced.

I think a lot of it, especially in Bravo world,

is you're seeing people care about things

that in reality they probably wouldn't care about

and they wouldn't make it a big issue.

But do you genuinely think that like Kyle

and Amanda have had a conversation before this season,

like we're gonna separate and we're gonna play out

or like do you not do you think that there's a chance

that like they get gotten to this weekend

not really realizing how bad their relationship is

because clearly it sounds like they spend a lot of time

apart when not filming.

That I'm like now you're forced to deal with these issues

in this house but also with everybody else's opinion

a part of it.

That is an interesting point though of like,

they clearly don't spend a lot of time together

when they are not filming this show

and this show makes them spend every weekend together.

He was literally disgusted by the idea

of sitting on the couch and Netflix and chilling.

So like that's where I'm like, if that's what she's doing.

The month, every month prior to them filming,

he has not been home any weekend.

So the fact that now there are like

forced to spend weekends together,

forced to drive four hours to the Hampton.

She's hearing for the first time how he speaks

about her outside of their relationship

where she's like, I'm always saying you're my best friend

and I support you and then you're going around

saying everything that's wrong with me

and like it sounds like that was the first time

that she's like hearing, this is your opinion of me.

That does make sense that it would like blow up during.

Yeah.

I think it's all possible.

I think it's a spectrum.

I think all of the things that you just mentioned happen

and part of it is again, just like knowing

that there are really TV stars and that's their job

and there are other things that like couples be like,

you know, listen, I'm not going to talk shit

about my partner, you know, I'm not going to say this out loud.

I'm not even going to say this to my friends,

but like these people want to show, they're miked up

and it's kind of their expectation and obligation to like give,

right?

Would they normally do that, you know,

and things like that?

And I think when the...

I was going to say to your point, every start of a season,

Kyle has a grift with Amanda to bring up to the grill.

We only know that from the lens of watching him on TV.

All right, well up next, we have Skye from the Valley Persian Style

and this is an amazing interview.

I hope you are ready for a very honest

and a very direct person who just answered our questions

because honest as they could be a very entertaining person.

She answered a star.

She's next.

Skye, welcome to the show.

Thank you, thanks for having me.

Well, congratulations on a very wonderful,

very successful first season.

Now that it's kind of out,

what is your just overall feelings about season one?

It was, it was very emotional.

Okay.

It was, yeah, it was tough and very emotional.

But of course, I learned so much about myself number one.

Well, let's start there.

What did you learn about yourself?

That I'm such a tough cookie.

Yes.

That I can go to the war against the whole army

and come out of it with the head up.

And then say to myself, damn girl, you did it.

Okay.

All right.

Was there anything you would have done differently

or was there a moment where you're like,

yeah, I don't know.

I didn't love that about what I did there.

Well, the only thing that I didn't love about, not love,

I didn't like about myself, the way I actually

handle my husband.

Okay.

That was the only thing I didn't like it.

And I tell you why, because no matter what in marriage,

people go through tough time.

And for me, it was a lot I was going through.

It wasn't just about my marriage, it was about my life,

it was about my business, my kids, my father.

So much I had in my plate.

And then at the same time,

I had to interact with a bunch of people

with a very different personality.

It was tough, you know, it was like,

to go through your daily life and then deal with that

at the same time, hours on TV, hours on camera.

So it wasn't really easy.

And the fact that the way he was snapping all the time,

because usually the conflict is started with him

losing his cool.

And then I'm like, dude, you know me,

I'm not going to take it.

I have to give it back to you.

But it wasn't a right time and a right place.

So that was not something that I wanted anybody ever seen.

And especially my children,

they're going to watch this eventually,

hopefully in the next 10 years or so.

But we're trying our best to protect them

from all of this, what's happening right now.

But that was the only thing that I was really proud of.

But the rest, I'm sorry,

I had to stand up for myself and, you know,

I get all the credits.

We love you on the show.

Thank you.

To be clear, some of your critics

and some of your castmates at times

accused you of being a little pretentious or stuck up.

What would you say to them about that criticism?

You know, it's like I don't feel like

I have to explain myself for who I am.

You know, you like it, you love it.

Thank you very much, you don't.

That's your opinion.

I'm never going to change myself or do something

to get anybody's validation.

The way I carry myself, I've been carrying myself,

the way I carry it today, same as 20 years ago,

same as, I don't know, 40 years ago.

I am, why am?

I like nice stuff in life.

And I'm not a type to sit back

and waiting for someone to provide it for me.

So I'll go get it.

If I have to work hard, I will work hard.

I'll do anything to provide the life that I want.

And you want to just look at it as like I'm pretentious?

Sure.

But unfortunately, or fortunately,

this is my lifestyle.

I'm not doing anything to get anybody's attention.

OK.

Do you stand by how you handled you and Tannen's friendship,

given that it was a real friendship

that had been going on for years before this?

How do you feel like that all played out?

To be honest with you, I'm sorry to say this,

but after all years, all of this years

being your friends and calling each other a sister.

And you go and talk, chef, behind my back

with someone that is very new to the group.

It's unacceptable.

I don't think I did anything wrong.

Yeah, maybe I mentioned that discount situation.

You know, when you're kind of like ambush and you're hurt

and when you see everybody's like from every different angle,

they just come at you and then attack you,

that's kind of like, it puts you in a very defense mode.

You're like, you know what?

Anything I can do, anything I can say,

I will use it to just protect myself.

So maybe it wasn't a right thing to say,

but the fact that she talks about it with Reza

and then keep using the word that she supported my business,

it's actually very painful.

You know, it's like, you know that you did it

not to support my business.

You did it because you wanted to have those pieces.

And you know, most of the time I gave you my costs

or with a very little profit margin.

And that's why I set the themes that I set,

but it just came out not right, you know?

Well, we love your authenticity and honesty.

So it seems like you and Tannen still are not on the same page.

When it comes to your jewelry line,

where your truth is, you know, she loved the jewelry,

she wanted the jewelry, she asked for the jewelry,

and as a friend, you hooked her up a little bit.

Yeah.

And she's telling this story where it's just like,

yeah, I mean, the jewelry's fine,

but I just really want to support my friend.

And I really mostly bought it

because I wanted to be a supportive friend

not because I wanted the jewelry.

Doesn't, okay, so let me ask you something.

Doesn't really make sense

then you go drop like seven, eight thousand,

five thousand, four thousand to just for the sake of just supporting

someone's business constantly.

I'm definitely with you there.

I don't know what her financial situation is.

It doesn't matter what kind of a financial situation she has,

but does that make sense?

If somebody doesn't, just constantly to do.

Did I ever mention, I mean, we can ask her,

is like, did I ever mention that is like my,

I'm losing my business or my business is like crashing

and I really need someone to support me?

Yeah, that's a good point.

I mean, that's a, that's a lot of money to spend just to be a friend.

Yeah. Thank you.

I saw that Tannen was at what what happens live with Gonesa.

How do you feel about Gonesa and Tannen's friendship

and how does that affect your friendship with Tannen?

What is that Gonesa and Tannen's friendship

it really doesn't do anything to me.

It's like, that's, that's her choice

and that's what she wants.

Good for her.

The fact that she can be friends with me

and now she can be her bestie,

that's, that actually says a lot.

So, I'm just gonna leave it as is.

So, you know what, let me actually add one more thing.

The fact that you can just go through life,

change color because of the situation and circumstances

and what you can get out of it,

that is actually very alarming to me.

I'm like, if you can literally turn you back

and become a different person

and associate with someone very different

with a very different kind of behavior,

well, that says a lot about you.

In the finale, yeah.

I mean, I will say I was,

I guess I'm not shocked

because Gonesa seems to be willing to do whatever.

But yeah, throwing that drink on you

was, was crazy behavior on her part.

Like, I mean, that's, it was a crass thing to do at a party.

Especially, you know, it being Tannen's party,

you don't, like, I know you're making TV

showing you want drama,

but like, that's really,

you need to throw a drink on someone, that was.

It was an adult event in the middle of the day.

That was wild.

That was wild behavior.

Well, you know what?

It's like there was some stuff that you guys didn't see

because at first she starts throwing grapes and it was,

and then she was keep doing kind of like a weird random thing

or like running behind me

and then pushing people,

and then hoping that someone is gonna, you know,

is gonna push, it's like a really crazy childish thing.

And that was the last day of filming.

And I was like, you know what?

God, help me to just get over this.

I got there literally last minute.

I'm like, you know what?

I don't care.

It's for me, it's just like,

I wanted to go just show my support to Tannen

and you know, get it over with.

But for some reason, in the back of my head,

I knew that they're like waiting, you know,

they've been waiting for them for this kind of moment.

They definitely came across when they were accusing you

of talking shit and saying that you were implying

or saying that they're just drama queens,

but they're beneath me.

Well, they were doing the very thing

that they were upset that you were saying,

that they were doing.

They were like, they were literally standing there

creating drama.

You called them hyenas and you said

that they were waiting just to attack.

Which was, you see their faces?

Which was, this was not, this was not scripted.

This none of this is like nobody told them to do this,

but did you see their faces?

Okay, so it looks just like hyenas.

They're always in the corner.

They're always sticking together.

And they're always just like,

what are we gonna do?

Did you see her?

And did you see what she comes?

Oh my gosh, she's walking.

Oh, did you see what she's wearing?

Oh my God, this is so exhausting.

Get a life to please get a life.

So can I ask them, what's your opinion

on Gigi Resa and Mercedes today?

To be honest, always too.

I can't really involve Mercedes with Resa and Gonessa

and now Tannin is like joining that group

because Mercedes, she has a good heart.

She's also trying to create the storyline,

but she's not as negative.

So I can't put her in the same category.

I have to tell you this.

She's not my friend.

I'm not saying we're friends,

but she's not like my buddy.

I'm not protecting her.

I'm just saying that she's a little bit different.

She's actually pretty chill.

And I think her concentration is her family.

No matter what she's going through right now,

the wars, all of those situations, that's also tough.

But I think she's her concentration,

it's her family and her son.

And I give her a lot of credit for that.

Do you have any thoughts on Resa?

Resa, it's honestly, I don't even know how

to express myself about this man

because it is so sad to just go around

and use anything and everything

to trash people and to try to ruin their reputation

or sing some nonsense.

It's just really, really sad.

Honestly, it's just, I feel bad for him.

That's all I can say.

I really feel bad for him.

And I really hope that one day he wake up in the morning

and say, hey, listen, enough is enough.

So just do something better in life

instead of just going around

and trying to create drama out of other people's life.

So let's assume you're going to come back

for season two, I'm assuming.

I hope so.

Honestly, I don't know.

I don't know.

It's a lot for me to handle.

But at the same time, I honestly don't want

to give that kind of a satisfaction to them

because that's exactly what they have been doing.

You know, creating so much hatred and bullying.

I just wanted to say, I would love to see you come back

for season two and some of my favorite moments

of this season, one of which was you talking

to your sister about your father,

which I thought was like very vulnerable

and very open and very honest.

Thank you.

Tannen also was talking, I think, to Mercedes,

but she had shared about like you moving to America by yourself

and not having family out here.

So I think that it would be really nice

if you came back for season two

and I think that you sharing more of your story

is something that people would be really interested in

because I think that there's a lot of depth to you

and I think that there's a lot of narrative

being created around your person.

But I think that's what's going to shine through

in season two.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

I mean, honestly, even when I accepted

to be a part of this reality show,

it wasn't just about like, you know,

trying to promote my business or just for that.

It was actually, I never wanted to promote myself.

I'm not the type that trying to get attention

or being famous or getting kind of like a recognition

when I go out, I don't, actually, I don't even like it.

All I wanted to just promote my business,

but at the same time, I also wanted to make my culture proud.

My people proud.

Does bombshot want to come back next season too?

He's also the same age.

He's like, you know what, this was a lot, this was tough.

And he's like, I don't even know how to interact with them now.

I'm like, I know.

It's not that we have problems with all of them,

but the fact that now they're all like ganging up

and they're like having each other's back

and they're like, oh, you know,

that's just exclude sky and bombshot.

It's kind of, it's going to be very challenging for us

to come back and blend in, you know.

First of all, we're never going to blend in.

That's for sure because we're very different.

And I'm just going to say it over and over

that we're not the same.

We're not the same.

We have a very different kind of like a standard in life,

different boundary.

I'm a little bit more harsh than bombshot,

but, you know, I draw the line.

I don't care who you are, what you're getting out of it,

I'm not going to go out of my way to blend in

or try to shine.

I am who I am.

You like it?

Thank you very much.

You don't like it?

Still, thank you.

Please continue with your life.

I mean, I just want to say I've loved you the whole show.

Like, I know maybe you're getting a lot of comments

and what it might be online,

but I think we always need the person that's standing out

and like an underdog amongst the cast.

I think a lot of people know these personalities

from previous shows,

and I think you're one of the new personalities

that was a perfect fit.

Thank you so much.

You know what?

It's interesting because most of...

I do get a lot of amazing, beautiful, positive messages

every day, but most of the people that they send me

a private message on my DM,

and I actually really like it,

because they're like, this is too much.

We don't want to get involved,

but we wanted to tell you how we feel or kids,

you know, it's like our teenager,

they're obsessed with you and they're looking up

and they're like, oh, look, she's standing up for herself.

I'm like, you know what?

That makes me so happy and proud as a mom.

When I see the younger generation,

they don't look at me as a stuck up person,

because I'm not, you know, I do have a standard in life,

but I'm not a stuck up at all.

The fact that is like the younger generation,

they look at me as a strong woman

who is standing up for herself.

That's everything for me.

I also would just like to say as someone

who loves to make fun of the valley

and not moving to the valley,

I really, really resonated with you

not wanting to live in the valley.

Thank you very much.

Well, I, you know, we live in the valley.

I just want to point out that we, you know.

No, like, girl, you get it.

I promise that I don't look at,

look down on the people who live in the valley.

I have nothing against the people in the valley.

And as I mentioned before, I'm going to say it again,

people keep saying that,

oh, you think you're good.

You're too good for the valley.

There is a house in the valley

is actually more expensive than the house in Beverly Hills

and Bella or, you know,

and the other side of the hill that I want in there, right?

So I love that how they're rewriting,

but I have nothing against the people

and the valley, the valley is just far from it.

Literally, we do have an airline.

We have an airline in Beverly Hills too.

It's the most accessible part of it.

So does mid-city, Diva.

Oh, mid-city, go for it.

Talk about being trapped.

Hey, okay.

Why you still live in mid-city?

I actually love mid-city.

Thank you.

Literally in the middle of everywhere.

Thank you.

It's actually very accessible.

No, it's stuck.

It's accessible.

Wait, Sky, do you actually love airline

and do you shop there often?

I actually have been shopping from AirOne since 2012,

13, actually.

Okay.

Yes, and do you want me to show you my membership?

What do you want you to show us, whatever you want to show us?

I want to show you because this people things

that this is, I'm getting credit for myself

or, you know, I'm just making myself interesting.

That's not, it's lifestyle, you know?

I really care what I eat, what I do,

what I put on my skin.

I really care how I design my house, the stuff I buy.

This is not for validation.

This is just who I am and you don't like it.

You want to look down and say, oh, I'm pretentious.

Okay.

Go for it.

Okay.

So can you see my name?

Uh-huh.

Okay, so do you see them?

What is I said on their members since?

16.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

So it's 2016.

But you know why?

Because the system, the membership, they created on 2017.

They didn't start it.

Yeah.

I started going there three years before.

So, but ever since I am a member and then I wish I could just show you guys something

that did you stick out of the first one, create, isn't the first one created on Beverly?

Yes.

Beverly Boulevard.

There it is.

Because I used to live there actually.

I used to live on orange drive and Beverly Boulevard.

It was literally right next to my house.

I was housed in eighth street.

I know exactly.

Oh, you were neighbor.

Hey, friend.

I love it.

So, yeah, it's like, this is like, this is nothing new.

Yeah.

This has been going on for years and years.

And guess what?

I'm going to show you one more thing because I love the fact that people keep using this

and they keep saying everyone.

And I feel like it's like at this point, I should just have a share at everyone.

The answer is, some something, I'm not going to everyone to buy a shake.

OK?

So, do you see this?

Receipts.

Do you see this?

Proof's...

Proof's.

This is everyday.

Proof.

Everything.

Everdoes.

...is everyday.

This is not a shake, okay?

This is like my life's stuff.

ð The food I've been feeding my family for the past fifteen years.

If you don't get an air one sponsorship after this interview, I don't...

At least a hundred dollar gift card or something you should know you should get your own you should be able to make your

I can still go by the way

I want to be able to go in in order to my the sky smoothie the sky smoothie

What would be in the sky smoothie?

Oh, I thought about it actually you know one one of the smoothie they have it's cocoa cloud

I love blue so it has a blue algae and it's my favorite because it's not too sweet

And it has all the minerals and it has all the nutrition in it

If I ever

Create the shake it will be kind of like similar to that and I'm gonna name it

Them skies the limit

Definitely is going to be blue and it's going to be with the blue algae. She said I have a I have a messy question for you

Sky

Being someone who cares about what you put in your body and your face. Have you used tannins facial oil yet?

Never how did your dog like it?

They didn't like it

They're like mom, please don't do it. Thanks. Thanks. No. Thank you

But now I have an idea. I'm like I might actually create the oil for the dogs. Oh

There you go

It gives me a very good idea that I'm like why why no actually don't have a fluffy dogs and they're they're

They have a very curly hair. I'm like, you know what maybe I should actually create a good oil for the dogs

So I think people will love it and I'm gonna make sure that there is no preservative in there

I'll make sure I know the shelf live and I know exactly how to store it

So I'll make sure if I create something I know all the details about

What's it? I'm curious what your thoughts are on the $20 strawberry and the $20 bag of ice

It's interesting because the ice is a stupid to buy it from error one

So you just have to be smart what you buy from this store and this strawberry

It's actually Harry's berry is 24 is not even 20. Okay, and I am

Tastes amazing, but I'm not a fan and I tell you why because I have a device

That you poke your fruits and vegetables and you meet and it will show you the level of the nitrate in your fruits and vegetables

And you know is all the pesticides and it shows the level

Harry's berry is strawberry is a very high on that nitrate and it's not safe actually

So I don't buy Harry's very

Thank you. That's a very informative literally by this device as soon as I'm done here. Sky we implore you to be on season two

Thanks. It's necessary. I mean like you have support. Yeah. Yeah, thank you your star

You're a star

Before really go just on a personal level obviously the lot going on in the world

And it's very scary times, but I believe you have family where the war is going on

And I just wanted to check in and if you know, just wanted to give you a chance if you wanted to to to speak on your

Just personal experience with what's going on in the world today

Yes

I'm not really a emotional person

Sorry, okay, take your time. It's a lot going on and having my family there

It's not just one my family. It's about all the other people that

They've been suffering for many years and this is what they're going through now

It really breaks my heart and obviously we can't do anything about it

But to just sit and watch and just pray but

They're all very devastated. They're all very scared and then no matter what comes out of this there is always a lot of

innocent people and all the civilians are going to die no matter what

And it's just

Really really hard to watch what's happening

I honestly don't know what to say is just devastating for me and obviously my dad is

Not even doing good and then he's in the middle of all this

It's really really really devastating

Well my heart goes out to you and your family and you know your entire community and obviously like you said

It's just devastating what's going on and we're certainly just praying for everyone involved because yeah

Obviously, you know, it's I must obviously help us feeling so it is

It is you know as like I talked to my sister and

Sometimes I have internet sometimes they don't and then she keeps telling me sometimes she's showing me what's happening from the window

It's just the scariest things ever imagine we're like here. We're just sitting and watching but they're there

They're in the middle of it and they see exactly what's going on is like

They bomb like few streets down

They don't even have a shelter. It's not that it's like oh, you know what like most countries they go

Down to their shelter or you know, they know that they're safe. They're not

They have nowhere to go

Absolutely heartbreaking

Well, that's yeah, very sorry to hear about what's going on and just giving you and your family all the best

Sky really appreciate your time

Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you for your honesty and generosity. It's but it's been a real pleasure. Thank you

All right, thank you. All right, bye

Incredible super star. She a she's she left no crumbs. She's made for reality television. Yeah

I have to say this cast is just something else that real just perfection and I even have to say

Razza jox by the end of

This season I was like how the fuck are you gonna make the fuck boy like the voice of reason? But I was like he's my favorite

He sneaks up on you

Season started you're like, you know, you kind of roll your eyes at home and they make them seem so vapid with like the like platforms

And this like weird like blind date

Good friend to have. Yeah, because I want conflict resolution and then let's dance

I think it's like he got a he got a rough time at least in my opinion because of the fact that he's called Razza jacks

You're and it's the valley then you're gonna be like oh, so is the jacks tailor of valley person style

He's not right. He's a good heart

Obviously, it was easy to criticize Tommy this season and it's hard to watch him not show up for Mercedes

But you know, I just hearing about his childhood

I made a lot makes sense. Yeah, I mean again, it doesn't justify or excuse him

You know his shortcomings in the marriage, but you it makes it easier to empathize with what what's going on?

Even like his like tough love of it all it's like oh if you've never really experienced genuine love

And it's like the way that you know how to make to laugh at pain is to make fun of it

Then it's like it makes sense that you equate like poking fun with actual affection

Yeah, I would be curious you know, it's just like you you saw him say his vows and he's like I only have one vow is to

Forget what it was, but basically they show up for you every day and make you happy

And it's like why can't you watch the season back and whatever your reasons are just like you know

That's that's the tough part. It's like why can't you get out of your own way sometimes because it's right there

And she wants it too, you know, I think that's the tough part though

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All right, well, last thing on the docket is the reunion part three of real housewives of Potomac

Mm-hmm

Which Remonique actually recently went on Twitter and made a statement

And said a lot of time has passed since the reunion was filmed

And after gaining more info since then I don't believe Stacey had anything to do with any of that bullshit

Wow

I'll probably go live on Instagram at some point this week and give you all the entire story

Please

I haven't watched the reunion episodes yet, so let me catch up and get back to you

But I at least wanted to clear her name on all of it

Justice for Stacey exactly

Which I feel like it's a little late

No, I mean

Maybe

Maybe we should have gotten all of our info before blasting on national television

Before you made me sit there in 20 seconds of silence

To a bleep

Yeah, I couldn't even I had no idea what that phone call was

I was just like what I thought my computer broke. I was like wait, I need to fix the sound

And then we bleeped out the name every single time it just

But then randomly Chris kept getting thrown in there and I was like okay, well who else could have

I just don't know why they bothered with whatever that was because we still have no idea what it is

Well, we did have Ashley go on some

What was that interview she did where she was the panel or something where she basically gave us the backstory of what that was

Ashley said on this panel somehow they had heard this name and asked Monique about it

And unfortunately there's a lot of legality right now with what Monique is going through so she can't share it

Which really sucks, but when we all heard it when I tell you jobs were on the floor baby

Yeah, so it was her it was her child confirming Stacey it was in contact with Chris

Which now she's saying

Is it very confusing to follow are we mad at stacey are we okay with stacey was stacey dating Chris

Were they not dating were

In contact with him like when she said I don't really talk to that man, but like obviously showed messages

Like maybe she really didn't mean like I don't know

And it did feel

It felt genuine for stacey to be like I am trying to get my own family back together. Yeah, like I am not trying to break your family up

Like I'm I'm trying to work things out with my husband. I'm trying to keep our family together and in the same house

So like last thing I'm going to do is come for your family

Also even going through the season. I'm like it doesn't feel like like stacey was trying to come for anybody

She was she's she's throwing at her out of constant and then having jazzy being like or if you're still fucking him now

It was like whoa

Jazzy felt like an absolute loose cannon. I mean when they were like jazzy we're gonna have you giddy up out of here

Okay, okay now she's fighting for for a spot for sure. I think so. I think so. I think she said was like

Yeah, like throw a stone over here a stone over here, and it's just like I think she's just really trying to get out of there

There was no sure putting anything

The Wendy stuff is almost too real

Did you all notice that after Karen was like you need to stop talking and then we got into a lot of the stuff

And it felt very much like Karen was in her head with her answers and she was like

people can have their opinions of me

But I mean I don't take Karen gave her good advice. It didn't feel like in real time. She was taking Karen's advice

As she should I mean again, I we asked Monique and clearly Monique and Wendy are are close and so I'm sure she didn't really want to

You know, we asked Monique it would just I was surprised by

How talkative she was and I'm not I'm no lawyer and

But there's a reason why they say anything you can say it can be used against you in the court a lot and my

Limit experience with friends. I know who are who have lawyer who are lawyers and things like that

You don't usually try to like thread the needle, you know when she gave the like in 2024

My house and then in 2025 we got a knock at my door and Karen was like that is exactly why I told you to shut the fuck up

Yeah, exactly what you shouldn't have done and when these faces like because you better

Because like we misspeak all the time, you know, we get dates wrong

We get confused and that's normally okay, but if if we're facing

Yeah, you know, not lawsuits. She's facing a criminal federal charges. She's facing jail time and you know

Obviously like real talk like prosecutors, you know, they're public servants

But they're also like aspiring politicians and they get judged by a how much they win or lose

Those are reason why these people go after public figures and make examples of them because these public defenders can make name for them

Make names for themselves. They don't necessarily

Play fair, you know, they play within the rules of of

Legality, but like they're they're they're hoping you slip up. They're hoping you misspeak and we'll use it get you again

Use that against you in court. So yeah, it was

It was like as a fan obviously we appreciate Wendy showing up and we appreciate, you know like her speaking

But yes, it was it's just as a human from a human level. It was surprising

To see that mm-hmm

Especially with the network that she's on in the amount of people who've gotten busted for less that I'm just like it's it's talking about your opulant wealth

It's how much you're spending on things. It's like where your money is going what your priorities are

They have an entire fucking 20 episodes to go through and be like, okay, like this is what she's expense here

Oh, she's wearing this that she claimed like so I'm like and especially from Teresa Judeis from Erica Jane like looking through like how housewives

Negatively impacted their cases. Yeah, I'm just like yeah to to Karen's point keep your mouth shut

Because if they ask you something and and you repeat it incorrectly now you've lied or you've purged yourself

Yeah, I mean it was just it was so it was kind of like emotional wayplash to like see like

Karen

Absolutely going for the jugular with Wendy with like that was brutal though like shut the fuck up your mom say shut the fuck

And then even jazel being like Karen even Andy was like whoa

That was raw and then she still gives her legal advice afterwards

Cuz she's the grand dog. I was like oh wow

She is mother. Yeah, she's all crap. She's a bit crap. So I was about her. Yes

That's what I'm curious to where I'm like because I'm like I think for

Karen's case. It's a little different too because it's like

Karen's talking about it dui and trying to claim that she doesn't drink as much as it's

reported that she does

But then it's like then you go through Potomac and it's like okay, you're drinking in every scene or you're saying

You're not gonna drink and then you're drinking so I'm like there's a lot of things where I'm like

What you say in a court of law versus being on camera recorded that can be used against you because it's public information like

You know, so I'm also kind of like I think Karen and and and Wendy's situations are like a little bit different

But I'm also like uh Wendy also clarified and she did say that everything that she said on that stage was public information

That's already been out there and recorded so I'm like if that's what she feels comfortable and her legal team advised her

It's okay to be honest and do we think I mean she was like my my legal team is aware of this line of questioning like do we think

I'm sure Andy or Bravo gave yeah, I can't I mean Wendy seems like

She's a smart ass. Yeah, yeah, I mean not sloppy and not messy. You have to assume her legal team

cleared it. I just oh yeah, I mean

Like what I do it if I were in her position. No, but like like why risk it?

I don't just like it's Karen being like you should not have answered one question. Yeah, it just doesn't seem

We can just doesn't it just anyway. It is trippy

To see two cast members one person who was literally just released from prison in another person

He's handing just like you know, you see Wendy talk to Karen and like I'm the up when they're they're referring the other side of it

It's like such a meta. Yeah, and also the fact that they're not in a good place right now

Right adds to that tension. It's really interesting. It's really interesting. I don't know how many years Wendy and her husband are facing

And I'm glad Karen's out and back on our TV screens, but I'm much my understanding that Wendy's facing more jail time

And and when you think about like a white collar crime versus like someone like

If prosecuted up to 15 years. Yeah, I was like we're talking about a fourth DUI where it's like obviously you're gonna have some jail time

Weird right, but I'm like for Wendy. It's just very interesting because it's like this like, you know

I'll have my day in court also angels

Closing sentence of like I hope justice is served. I was like that was fucking brutal

I will say though Wendy's explanation of the credit card aliases made total sense. Absolutely. I kind of said that too

I was like she's absolved in my opinion Pam Oliver. I fucking get it

I have a lot of friends that have pseudonyms because it just makes traveling and makes right getting packages and what not so much easy

But why so many like why wouldn't you just always use Pam Oliver? It's fun

Yeah, sure

You can change your name at any time

You name you can change the clothes

That makes total sense. Yeah, I actually I and as she said that it was never used for any financial

purposes, then I'm like

There's receipts to prove that so you can't say that confidently and be lying about it

All right, well, thank you to our guest sky from the Valley person set style and thank you all for listening

If you haven't listened to the Kenya episode of going deeper that dropped yesterday

You do not want to miss that if you've been in any way interested in the documentary of America's next top model

That is out on Netflix. There's also another one coming out on e

But obviously we all have been very fascinated with that story and all the

Experiences that these people have but we finally got to hear from one of the models Kenya very kind of a big

Presence on that show and part of the documentaries and she shares her she shared her experience with us

On yesterday's episode of going deeper. So be sure to check that out

Also, don't forget file files plus add free and update special and all your favorite deep dives for really recap

Are available just go to vifiles.com check it out. Uh, we will see you next week

You know, we will see you next week.