E39: The AI Economy: How Agents Will Transact Without Us, with Don Gossen CEO of Nevermined

This week, Sasha Orloff sits down with Donald Gossen, CEO of Nevermined, to explore the future of AI-driven payments, highlighting the company's vision for AI agents with independent accounts and transaction protocols, the challenges of dynamic payment systems, the role of blockchain in security, and Nevermined's journey in enabling decentralized AI-to-AI transactions. -- SPONSORS: Notion Boost your startup with Notion—the ultimate connected workspace trusted by thousands worldwide! From engineering specs to onboarding and fundraising, Notion keeps your team organized and efficient. For a limited time, get 6 months of Notion AI FREE to supercharge your workflow. Claim your offer now at https://notion.com/startups/puzzle Puzzle 📈  No more waiting for month's end. No more manual reconciliations, just financials that keep up with you. Puzzle is leading a new movement with an AI first ledger, built for speed, automation, and real time decision making. Join today at https://puzzle.io/ -- RECOMMENDED IN THIS EPISODE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-gossen-40ab96/ https://nevermined.io/ -- X/SOCIAL: @Nevermined_io @dongossen (Donald) @sashaorloff (Sasha) -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Preview (00:50) Intro (01:18) Overview of AI-to-AI payments and decentralized finance (02:34) Vision behind Nevermined (04:01) Challenges in AI payment systems (05:34) Nevermined: The PayPal of AI (06:52) Future of AI commerce (11:46) Real-world applications and security (13:54) Sponsors: Notion | Puzzle (15:17) Security & trust in AI transactions (19:39) Evolution of AI agents (27:45) Building Nevermined and fundraising (32:31) Wrap