E631 - How FORD Can Help You Pickup 4 New Conversation Starters For Your Next Podcast Interview

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Hey, welcome back to the How to Podcast series. It's Dave with you. I hope you're doing well.

Well, uh, it was bored at work last night and this idea for a shirt came to my mind

and has nothing to do with this episode, by the way. Welcome to the show. Uh, yeah, you know,

I have those baby on board signs that you see for young parents have in the back window of their

car. I'm like, uh, yeah, and then I'm like, wait a minute. What if it was B? Is it a baby

on board? It was baby. I'm bored. Baby, I'm bored. So I made a shirt and it says, baby, I'm bored.

And if you want it, you can have it. It's over at my tea public, um, place where I have all my

merch for my podcast and stuff. I know I don't talk about merch here, but and the idea of you

wearing my shirt, it would be an honor, but highly unlikely that people want to buy a shirt with

how to podcast on it. But anyways, if you do, I'm going one right now. It's, it's, it's fun.

Anyway, you can go to my tea public store and you can get the baby on board shirt, which I think

is funny. I made my wife laugh, so that's a good sign. If I can make my wife laugh, that's good.

That's a good thing. So yeah, so if you want a baby on board instead of baby on board,

then you go check out my tea public out of podcast.ca. You'll have links to my, my merch. If you,

if you buy any merch, okay, here you go. If you buy any merch and you can take a picture of you,

like a selfie of you somewhere in the world wearing my merch. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. That wouldn't

make me so happy. So yeah, do that. If you, if you have, if, okay, if you, I know you haven't,

but if you, if you do the future, I'd love for you to take a picture. Take a selfie. I'd like to see

who's listening to the show and where you are and sporting your podcast or baby on board shirt.

That'd be fun. Okay. Anyways, back to the podcast Dave. Let's get back to this. Now, when you look

at the title of this episode, there's two words in your Ford pickup and you're like, wait a minute.

Dave's, Dave's doing an automotive show now. Dave's, I have a Ford pickup. Oh, here's a,

here's a little segue. Sitting in my driveway because I need a new alternator or something.

I don't have the money. I don't have the money to, to get it towed, to get it fixed. So it's been

sitting in my driveway for about four months. Now, that's a sad story. Yeah, it's just, it's our

second vehicle and yeah, I'd love to have it because every time my wife goes to work, I'm kind of

housebound. I can't go anywhere. I can't do anything. I can't go grab the groceries. I can't

help around, you know, do the errands. I can't do anything. I'm stuck here. And if I need to move

anything, obviously, my truck is a great lawn ornament right now sitting in my driveway. So

one day when I have money, well, it'll fix it. But anyways, my Ford truck, I like it. It's a big,

it's like a small apartment. It's lifted. It's got the big,

weird tires underneath. It was my son's truck originally and and then he grew tired of it and

bought something else and we re-inherited the truck that we had given to him years ago. Anyway,

so it's this big red truck. It looks like a workman's truck and yeah, it's a Ford truck. What I was

I was looking at my truck in the driveway because it's not moving. And I'm like, I see in the back

of it F-O-R-D. And I thought, you know what? It actually reminds me of something I was reading

where here's trying to be a real good segue here. There's actually a four letter word.

That's an acronym, each letter represents a word. And this acronym is around how to start

a great conversation. And I'm thinking, I remember, I remember this this acronym and I thought,

hey, I should bring this to you in case you've never heard of this before. And then the next time

you see a red not running Ford pickup truck in my driveway or anybody else's driveway and you see

that F-O-R-D. You're in traffic right now and there's a truck in front of you and it says,

Ford, then maybe this will stick with you. And you'll remember this because it's pretty simple

and Ford trucks are all over the place. So you're probably going to be triggered to remember this.

Kind of like if I say, look for the red car every now, you're going to see red cars everywhere.

Having this F-O-R-D format for your next conversation, it might just stick. And if it sticks,

it maybe it'll help you in those awkward conversations in person or online, primarily for

podcasters with your guests, that you have conversation starters. You can leverage this F-O-R-D

framework and use it for your next conversation. So yeah, well, we should probably put like an old

1960s commercial for Ford pickup trucks here. That sounds like a great idea. So let's do that.

They're rolling and they're moving fast. They're the new Ford trucks for 60 with certified economy.

Coming off the assembly lines and on to the highways, heading for Ford dealers all over America.

They're bringing new style, new toughness, new comfort, new ways to save. For example,

this new big-a-rear axle for Ford's two-ton trucks now rated for 1,300 pounds more payload.

Here's a 1964 pickup being fitted with its new plastic foam standard seat cushion.

It adds new comfort. New pickup brake linings proved to last 13% longer.

Here's Ford's gas saving six, the engine that the Ford competition and economy show down USA.

Half-ton pickup or a giant highway hauler, the 1964s are bringing you the best of the new.

But above all, you get economy you can count on. Economy that's certified. For the first time,

here is truck economy backed by the certified tests of America's leading independent automotive engineers.

Tests like this by independent experts confirm the economy of Ford's modern engines

and the result is certified gas savings. Tests certified by independent experts

establish the extra toughness of the truck parts that get the most abuse.

Result, certified durability. Still other tests such as this one proving that Ford's

new wiring is more than twice as reliable provided the facts for certified reliability.

Yes, the new Ford trucks with certified economy are here and you can see them at your

Ford dealers. Get all the facts on certified economy and you'll come out ahead.

1960s. That's like nine years before I was born.

So yeah, that's old. And yeah, if you want to see the clip, that's just pulled it off

for YouTube. Go check it out and just link in the show notes to go watch what I just played for you.

And yeah, that's how they used to make trucks a long time ago. There's more steel in that truck

than there is and everything they make now, right? Okay, so let's move forward, Dave. Get

away from the automotive stuff. Okay, so let's get into this framework. This F-O-R-D

framework for your next conversation. So here's what it stands for. I'll give it to you right

away. F equals the word family. O is for occupation. R is for recreation. And D is for dreams.

Family. Occupation. Recreation. And dreams. So when you sit down with somebody for the first

time and you don't really know this person or you don't know them well, you're sitting at lunch

in the lunch room and you typically will do the hey, how was your weekend? Good, yours, good. Yeah,

good. How the kids good? Yeah, how's work? Good. Yeah, same, right? Weather? Yeah, right. Okay,

we're done. That's it. That's the level of conversation we have with. Pretty well, everyone

we don't really know well because we don't have, we haven't invested any time with this person.

And everything's very surface level and quite boring. And what I'm finding is podcast hosts are

doing this in their show. Very surface level, very generic, easy softball questions, no depth,

no engagement, no curiosity, just going through the motions, ripping through my 10 questions on

my sheet in front of me, start the podcast, do the interview, finish the podcast and be done.

And as a listener, you grow tired of boring conversations. I'm sorry, boring conversations. I say

one more time, boring conversations, not every conversation is a show. I'm sorry, just because you

recorded it on Riverside or Zoom or however you record your podcast, just because you recorded a

conversation doesn't mean A, it has to go out as a podcast and B, that it's a show.

Your podcast needs to have some form of entertainment to it. It has to be entertaining and engaging.

There's someone to even invest a moment of their time to listen to. And what I'm finding is

people are creating boring content, putting it out as a podcast and then lamenting that why is

my podcast not growing? Well, it might be that your show is just really, really boring.

It might be your questions have left this lack any depth, they lack any kind of interest,

and there are not even questions that I would ever ask as a listener of your guest. And it's like,

really, do we need to read their LinkedIn bio? Really? Do we need to spend five minutes

pumping up this guest that you brought on your show? I don't really need to know

how many different degrees they have. I really, unless this is a podcast about universities,

I don't really need to know where they went to high school back in 1960. I don't, I really don't.

I didn't need to know they had to eliminate stand when they were five. I really don't need to know

that. So let's tighten this up a little bit and let's get a little less boring in our podcast.

And I think this family occupation, recreation, and dreams framework, the Ford framework is

really going to help you in your show to go beyond the the simple easy questions that come to mind

in the moment. Let's go a little deeper. So let's break these down and give them their due.

It's the Ford method for creating great engaging conversation starters on that a podcast series.

So this mental checklist is something I think that I mean, it just keeps saying it over and over again.

So it sinks into your brain and finds a little place, a little crevice or crevice as some people would

say. And this will just sit there for you. And again, be triggered by any time you see a Ford

anything driving by on the street. You're like, oh, yes, Dave talked about the Ford method. Okay,

good. So let's talk family first. This one is one of the starting points. Again, you're going to

get past the hey, how are you? Good. Great. You good. Awesome. Good. And you're going to get more into

something a little bit deeper. So this can be anything really. It could be something that

you just use. And you can tweak this as many anyways as you want. It's just we're going to use

the bucket of family as an engagement to start a conversation with somebody.

So little things like a question like, where did you grow up? And what was life like in your home?

Or who was in your family? Who in your family has had the biggest influence on you today?

What do you remember of your grandparents? What did your grandfather do? That's interesting.

Right. Now it's not just them. It's not just their media parents. It's their grandparents.

My grandfather on my mother's side, he wasn't an engineer on a train. And he was, he drove a train

for years in Northern Ontario. And his train is parked in a small town in Engelhart, Ontario.

And I actually lived in Engelhart with my family when I was in high school. And living there,

I got to go stand next to and touch the train that my grandfather drove to be my great grandfather

drove me way before I was even considered. So like a piece of my family history in my little town

from my great grandfather. And it's like, wow, this is the coolest thing ever, right? So that's a good

question. Bring up anything to do with family. People love talking about their family. If I met

you today and said, Hey, I heard you got kids. Tell me about your kids on it, on it, on it, on it,

on you'll go about your amazing kids, right? So family is a great starting point. Forget the weather.

Come on. That's pretty lame. Anybody can talk about the weather. You want to do better, right?

So your podcast guest comes on. You do a little pre-chat with them. I do pre-interviews with all my

guests. And you just want to break the ice with them. You just met this person three seconds ago.

And now you're supposed to have a conversation. So tell me about your family. That's a great starting

point. And try to be specific, right? How long have you been married? You said you were married

on your website. So how long have you been married? Great. And you have three kids I see on your

website. Yeah. What are their names? People love talking family stuff. It's a great starting point.

So start with family. It's the F in Ford F-O-R-D family. Next is occupation. So this one could be a

little dry because you know one thing you can do is you can kind of tweak this. So too not just

the current occupation that you're the person in front of you is currently doing, but ask

something like when you were a kid, what did you imagine you'd be doing today as a career?

That's interesting. Like think back to when you were seven, ten, twelve. What did you think you

would be doing right now? No, that's a way more important, interesting question than where do you

work? Do you love your job? Yeah. Me too. Right? Forget that. Ask a question with some thought.

With something for people to sink their teeth into and go, you know what, that's a great question.

I've never, hmm. What did I think for me when I was a kid in public school, primary school,

wherever you're from now, wherever you want to say that? Great. Seven, eight, six. I thought I

would be a bank manager. No, I have no idea what a bank manager did back then. I just knew that

money was in the bank. So that was important. People always went there and people always walked

out with money. So I'm like, well, that sounds like a great place to work. I didn't understand how

banking it works or nothing. And I wasn't really great with math. But so I never really went down

that path. But I thought I was going to be a banker, a bank manager, too. Like I managed the whole

bank. That's going to manage people. Well, now I managed my own finances with my wife's help. And

that's about the extent of that dream. Never really came true. But you can ask occupation-based

questions. What drew you into the line of work that you're doing right now? Like how did you,

how did you go from where you started to this? What part of your work makes you forget to check the

time? That's a great question that I've used in the past for people and to break the ice with a

guest. So talk about what they do. People love talking with their family. They also love talking

with things that they do, especially if they're in love with what they do and how it

translates into their own satisfaction in life. So leverage the occupation side as the O

and Ford. So you have talked about family. That's F. Occupation is the O and the next one

recreation is the R in Ford. So I can hear the non-forward people right now going Dave. Can you do a

Chevy version of this? Well, I'll see what I can do. So the next one is recreation. This is where

you can talk about anything to do that has nothing to do with work. If you're not, you could skip

occupation altogether and just jump to R if you want to. This is just a framework. You can do whatever

you want. Just pick one of these and let it be your thing. But at least there's four options in

front of you. Recreation, it's not about work. It's about what do you do when you have downtime?

What lights you up? You get to really understand the person. You know, they collect hot wheels.

Oh, really? They rebuild cars. They like to go antiquing. They crochet. They

play pickleball. I don't know. There's something about our downtime. That's an indicator of our

passions. Because we are very careful with our downtime. We don't have very much of it. We work

a lot. So when we do have time for me, I'm a musician. I've been playing guitar for 46 years.

That opens the door to conversation. 46 years. A, how old are you? And B, wow.

Yeah, I've got nine guitars. Just like I have nine podcasts. It's like a trend, I guess.

And yeah, I play four different instruments. Guitar piano, bass and drums. And I've been playing

in studios and on stages. And I've been, I've heard my stuff on the radio several times.

I've played with some pretty big acts and some really tiny ones. Big shows, little shows,

everything. Got a lot of interesting stories about being on stage. And yeah, anyway, so I love

music. So recreation asks things like when you're not doing this, whatever it is, what do you love

spending time on? Or what do you do just for fun with zero pressure to be productive? You don't

make money at it. It's your hobby. It's just for you. If you had an hour or 10 hours to spend on

yourself, what would you do? Recreation. And makes people think it's a great reset button too.

Because we don't get asked about this often. We get a lot about what your name, what do you do,

where you're from? Right? Boring. Or except for your name. Boring. So family is the F. Occupation

is the O. Recreation is the R. And lastly, D. What are your dreams? This is something that again,

we don't get asked very often, especially not in social circles, not in a pre-interview, not in a

podcast, not we don't ask our partners this. And nobody seems to ask us this very often. It's like

this, oh yeah, I should ask you about your dreams. What is the thing that you're just like,

what's your finish line? Like where are you heading? What's your dream in life?

So you can ask things like if everything worked out perfectly in the next few years,

what would it look like for you as far as your dream and fulfilling your dream, your passion,

your purpose in life? What's your dream? Or what are you quietly working toward that most people

don't see? Right? There you go. What are you quietly working toward that most people don't see?

Try this in real life. Try these questions. Maybe ask yourself. My suggestion for you,

and we go through the forward method here, family, occupation, recreation, and dreams is to pick one

letter, to start. Just pick one. You don't have to do all four. That might be overwhelming.

Pick one. Listen closely. Then follow the thread that people give you when they respond to one of your

four asks in a question format. If they light up over recreation, then stay there. Don't move to

one of the other ones. Stay there. You just, their eyes lit up like, oh, finally, somebody asked me

about what I like to do other than work. Then stay there. Stick with that. Don't jump to something

else. If their eyes shine with the talking about the long-term goals and lean into their dreams,

if they, you ask them about their occupation and they give you short answers, that might not be their

thing. So then jump to family or recreation or dreams. You can play with these four. You don't

have to do them all. You can might just start with one and finish with one. But what a great way to

get past the generic boring. Who are you? What do you do? Where are you from? Come on. We can do

better. You can do better and your podcasts will be better. If you ignore and avoid the simple,

easy questions and for all things podcasting, please stop asking AI to give you your questions.

You have this thing attached to your body called a brain. It's in your melon there in your head.

Use it. Be creative. Ask your guests some questions. Do your research. Stop disconnecting

yourself from your podcast. And I know AI is such a great tool and everyone's so infatuated with

it. But you know what? You have this brain. The more you use it, the better it and stronger it

gets. The less you use it. You turn into a wally movie floating around in your chairs and you

haven't moved in decades. It's time to leverage that brain of yours. ChachyBT is not you. And you're

not chachyBT. So please leverage your brain. Stop asking AI to do all the work for you. It's time

for you to pick up and do some work yourself. It's time to step up. So here's an example of all

four of the four suggestions in one conversation. Say, so I walk up to you at an event. You got your

drink. I got my drink. And we're meeting each other for the first time. Psycho up to you. And I'm like,

hey, how's it going? Do you have your family here in the area? There you have family, right?

Second question. What kind of work do you do? And how did you get into this?

Occupation. Check. Next. What do you guys do for fun around here?

Recreation. Check. Hey, question. What's something that you've loved to do next in the next year?

If time and money wasn't an issue, what would you do? The key here is ask open-ended questions.

Not yes and no answer questions. Listen more than you talk. Reflect back what you've heard.

Repeat what people say. It shows engagement. And gently move them from light questions,

family and work to work deeper questions like dreams. This builds trust in a conversation.

Before hitting record on your next interview, I want you to use the two to three of the

Ford questions in your pre-chat to relax your guest and find good story material. During the

interview, keep the Ford in the back of your mind as a map. If the conversation stalls and you're

like, oh, no, we just hit one of those little spots where we've kind of bottomed out in our

conversation and I don't know where to go next, grab one of these four letters and use this in

a curious way and ask a kind question of your guest using the Ford method. The key idea here is

that Ford FORD is not a script. It's not a framework that you have to follow verbatim. I have to do

the F and then I can go to the O and then I can go to the R and I finish with the D. No, it's just

four examples of how you can engage your audience, engage your guest, engage your podcast,

and keep the conversation moving. Use it to move past the how are you questions into the who are

you really questions. This is how we move our conversation forward, forward, forward, forward,

forward. Let's use that. This is how we move our questions forward, forward. I just made that up

and we get a better response, a better show, right? Again, remember, not every conversation is a

podcast. Not every conversation needs to be posted to the internet. Not every conversation is

intriguing and engaging for someone who doesn't know you and doesn't know your guest. Not every

conversation is a show. So make it a show, make it engaging, make it different and use these things

that are going to help people and you can also use them from your own perspective back to your guest

if the conversation stalls. Now I did an interview with an author. Conversation hadn't

stalled at all but I brought out one of my examples from my life from my recreation side around

music. My author is a, it writes short stories and does like 15 short stories in one novel.

So each chapter is its own individual story. So I asked him in the conversation. So when you do

these stories, how do you know how to organize them in your book? So here's my question and here's

his response and I'm going to just take a little clip of that and throw it in here. I know what

you're going to hear when I'm doing it real time. This was not in my notes. I didn't even know I was

going to go there but I brought my recreation side of the Ford method into the episode and I did this

before I recording this episode. So in this real time, in this moment, I'm remembering it going,

wait a minute, I did this myself. So here's the clip just so you can hear it and I'll have

a link to the episode if you're interested in this author. He's great. But how to take 15 short

stories and arrange them in a way that makes sense for the audience? Here's my question and

take note of my guest's response because it caught him off guard and opened him up to something that

he did not anticipate in the conversation. So here's the clip from the show. Interesting,

like I'm listening to you talk about this and I'm in my context. I'm not an author but I'm a musician

and what we do on an album, what we do in concert is we assemble our songs in a logical way that

takes people on a journey from beginning middle end. We want to start big in concert, but in on

the album, we might want to start softer and take you from a more thoughtful approach to more

celebratory at the end. You have this freedom of how you arrange what you do in a certain way

that for the outcome you're trying to get to. So we put a lot of time and effort into

why a song won on the album? Well, because we want to evoke this kind of response from our audience

by hitting play for the first time and go, wow, right. And same thing in concert, we want to have that

first note to be the thing that makes people come rushing into the room and go, oh, it started,

right? That's kind of the idea. So I'm listening to you talk about this and going,

there's a real interesting parallel from my world to your world now. We both do approach these similar

the similar idea of how we can arrange this and for the sake of the audience. It's interesting.

Yeah, it is interesting. So my granddaughter Bridget has her her musical project,

it's called Best Life. She's a Toronto indie singer, songwriter, performer.

And she started to drop and she's had a number of EPs when a couple of awards and she's

putting out her first LP this year. And I think there's like four singles that are made dropping

months by months until it comes out. So it's interesting because I've never had that conversation

with her. Interesting. Probably because she's never done an LP before. But I'm going to ask her,

I'm going to say, so how did you come up with the sequence? How did you decide what song A is and

song B and what one you wanted to finish with? I'm from the vinyl era. So I would have said,

so what what what went on side A and side B, but there's not that.

No, he had. Well, though, I think she is going to do a vinyl for this one, so that's

kind of cool. But yeah, thanks. I'm going to have a sketch on with her.

As podcasters, whether you're having an interview or not, as human beings going to events

and maybe you're a little shy like me, I'm the type of guy that hides in the corner. You're

going to have to come find me, right? I just being in front of a bunch of people I don't know

is not scary. It's just exhausting and it's not something that I look forward to. It's not on my

to do list. It's something that I have to do, not I really want to do. The more I do it, the better

I get, but at the same time, I'm pretty shy and quiet. But if you come around me and you start

talking to me, oh yeah, we're best friends. So look out for people like that at your next event,

sitting in the corner, they got their glass in their hand, they're going to looking down at their

phone, go sit right beside them, yay! And then pull out your Ford F-O-R-D, right? Family,

occupation, recreation, and dreams. And use it with that person who looks disengaged,

a little fearful. If you're that person who's an outgoing person, comfortable in those settings,

don't ignore the people who are there and who are quiet. Because they're there,

they're not, they're not comfortable and they're starving for people to come and talk to them.

So ignore hanging around with all the other people who love being there and super excited,

go focus on the people who are quiet. Because you just might find some of the deepest friendships

you'll ever have in somebody who's quiet. Speaking of somebody quiet, we're pretty faithful to

people who reach out to us just so you know. Use this Ford method in your next in real life,

our opportunity through your podcast, through your pre-interviews, because you're going to do

pre-interviews, right? I'm going to convince you, pre-interviews during the recording,

all of these examples are opportunities for you to leverage this framework. And the next time

a Ford truck car, anything SUV drives by, sitting in traffic and you see F-O-R-D on the back,

you're going to remember family, occupation, recreation, and dreams. And use that.

And then tell me through my speak pipe, how to podcast.ca. Leave me a voice message and say,

David worked. It worked. I used the, tell me which letter. And here's what here was the situation,

here's what I did, here's what happened. I'd love to hear your response. Hearing your voice

makes me super happy. F-O-R-D family, occupation, recreation, dreams, go start your next conversation.

It's a great way to pick up, oh, pick up your conversations using the Ford method. I hope it

works for you. I know. Well, now you got to go do it though. Stop thinking about it and stop using

simple questions. You're better than this and your podcast listeners, they're asking for you to do

better. So try harder and don't farm out your intelligence to a computer. Please, we need you.

I don't need your prompt. I need you. I can prompt. I don't need your podcast. If I can prompt

it myself, I'll just replace you. So don't be replaceable. Be you. Be creative. Keep podcasting. Need help.

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Hey, you're still here. Awesome. That's great. Okay. So this is a little bonus stuff that I do

at the end of the podcast. This is stuff that most people aren't going to hear because they've

already left. They've already exited. They've gotten a car. They've already gone home. They've

gone to a restaurant. They've gone over drinks. You and I are still here. So I want to honor you

for sticking around to the end of the podcast. That's so meaningful to me. Helps the podcast grow.

How does it help a grow? Because whenever you listen to the end of the show, it's a signal to

whatever app that you're listening on. But this podcast is worth promoting. It's worth telling

somebody about it because when people come and stay to the end, that's not common. That's quite rare.

So you are rare. You're unique. There you go. So yeah, thank you for doing this. So I wanted to do

the little bonus app like content of the end. We'll answer a question and only you will know about

this. So nobody else will know. So anyway, keep this to you. All right. Just for you. People ask

Dave, when you do those little clips like you did today, you had the forward commercial and you had

a clip from your own show in the podcast here. How are you grabbing those clips? Like we're,

what tool are you using that allows you to capture? So what I'm using is a thing called Wondershare

demo creator. Wondershare demo creator. I, yeah, reach out to me. If I put the link in the,

well, okay, I'll put the link in the show notes, but people are like, what is that? Only you'll know

why that links in there. So keep, again, but it's called Wondershare demo creator. It's a paid

platform that I use. I, because I do a lot of reviews of people's podcasts, podcastfeedback.ca,

I review people's shows and I've been doing this for almost five years now and people will send

me their podcasts to say, Dave, can you give me some thoughts about my show and how I can approve?

So what I do is I, because I don't have the original recording on my end, I do these little clips

from their show using Wondershare demo creator and it allows me to hit record. So whatever I can see

and hear on my screen, I can record it. So I'm not downloading their podcasts and all that.

I can capture any audio off the internet with Wondershare demo creator. So that's what I'm using

and it's a great tool when I coach as well. I record my clients and I have them talk and I record

them and then we review them in the moment. Here's what you look like when you talk. Here's what you

sound like when you talk. It's a great tool, Wondershare demo creator. So that's really good. And if

you ever want to capture an image of anything, I use another program called the Snipping tool and

it's great. It allows you to take a picture of anything that you see on the screen. And again,

I will put a link for that in the show notes as well. But again, it will mean nothing to everybody else

because they're not here and they have no idea why that's in there. But you will. And that's my

gift to you, my appreciation for sticking around. So Snipping tool helps me to capture any image

that I want off the internet off my screen. It's a great tool and Wondershare demo creator

for audio clips. Anything I can hear on my screen, any website, anyplace, it's a great way to do

that. So if you need any help with either of these tools or anything else, how to podcast.ca.

I have more tools, but I don't always share them only for the people who used to come out. So have

at it. Take care.