Ep 1108 | The Raiders DESTROY Tom Brady's Reputation | Stephen A. Smith's Pathological Lying Continues

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Welcome to Fearless with Jason Whitlock and Tom Brady

is off to a very, very bad start as the owner,

5% owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.

He's getting 90% of the blame for everything that goes wrong

with the Las Vegas Raiders while owning just 5% of the Las Vegas Raiders.

Right now, Max Crosby, all the reports are that their Raiders best player

wants out of Las Vegas.

Tom Brady is the scapegoat.

People are now attacking Tom Brady.

I think his reputation is being harmed by being associated with the Raiders.

He's the scapegoat for everything that's wrong with the Raiders.

Let me read to you a quote about what's going on with Max Crosby and Alex Guerrero.

You guys remember Alex Guerrero, Tom Brady's personal trainer, fitness guru,

life, you know, kind of life force, life coach guru.

Well, he's now gone from Tampa and New England.

He's now moved to Las Vegas and is like Tom Brady's eyes and ears with the Raiders organization.

And that seems to be rubbing Max Crosby and other players the wrong way.

Let me read to you a quote from the athletic like many players and coaches.

Max Crosby was frustrated by the presence of Alex Guerrero, a staunch Brady ally

whose official title is wellness coordinator.

Guerrero who regularly attends practices and meetings,

purports to possess significant organizational power, informing players of impending transactions,

and even indicating to staff members who don't follow his instructions that their jobs may be at risk.

Guerrero is perceived to have a direct line to Tom Brady who lives in Florida

and serves as Fox's lead NFL analyst, eliminating his in-person presence with the Raiders.

Suffice it to say that there are trust issues permeating the Raiders training facility in Henderson, Nevada.

Wow.

The skate go Tom Brady.

He's taken on this public face that he has amazing influence within the Raiders with his 5% ownership state.

And maybe he does.

Mark Davis doesn't know what he's doing.

And he's sold a small or given Tom Brady a small portion of the team so that he can lean into the Brady brand.

But the Brady brand is getting destroyed.

It's like these players aren't sitting around.

Well, this is the greatest player of all time.

We owe everything to Tom Brady.

These NFL players make millions upon millions of dollars.

They have their own major egos and they're really not feeling Tom Brady.

Jim Rome, you guys remember Jim Rome attacked Tom Brady yesterday in one of the most vicious ways.

Let's play the clip.

In four times a year, call shots from wherever the hell he is.

And just leaves his creepy lap dog.

Err.

Nark.

Err.

Wellness guru.

Behind.

And instead to make everybody uncomfortable.

No wonder Max wants out.

And he absolutely should.

Anybody who wants to win should be running away from this slab of bacon and his wellness coordinator.

I'm telling you this dude.

This dude's got the best job ever.

Think about it.

Best job ever.

He only has to show up four or five times a year.

He has almost total autonomy and power.

He can say and do whatever the hell he wants from wherever the hell he wants.

All while having his rats and moles report to him while he runs an NFL franchise remotely.

Hell.

Best job ever.

But he's doing the worst job ever.

Man, that is good work if you can get it.

Rats and moles.

Tom Brady.

A slab of bacon.

When is anyone ever felt comfortable talking about Tom Brady in that way?

Anyone other than a cult fan.

Jim Rome.

Just out in these streets.

Slab of bacon, Tom Brady.

Has rats and moles.

Tom Brady has been greenlit.

Tom Brady is not peep.

The perception clearly is.

The Tom Brady is vulnerable.

That perhaps he's out over his skis.

That perhaps there's jealousy among broadcasters.

When the guy walks off the plane field.

And immediately gets paid $37.5 million to be an NFL broadcaster for Fox.

He has no experience.

He's been okay.

But he hasn't been worth $37.5 million.

Perhaps jealousy is fueling this.

Or perhaps people just have been waiting to unload on Tom Brady.

And now they're unloading.

He's been greenlit.

And many people perhaps anticipating.

Tom Brady is going to go the way of a couple of other all-time greats.

Anybody remember a guy named Michael Jeffrey Jordan?

Who was the owner of the Charlotte Bobcats.

Slash Charlotte Hornets.

For like 13, 14 years.

Had three winning seasons.

Two playoff appearances.

And a three and eight playoff record.

Anybody remembers someone called the great one, Wayne Gretzky.

The greatest hockey player of all time.

Head coach of the Phoenix Coyotes.

For I believe four seasons.

Record 143, 161 and 24.

One winning season.

No playoff appearances.

Perhaps Jim Rome and others are sensing.

We have another all-time great player who's doing too much.

Perhaps Tom Brady will eventually give up his ownership state in the Las Vegas Raiders.

And become a NASCAR owner.

And compete with Michael Jordan in NASCAR.

But right now, Tom Brady is the skate goat for everything that's wrong.

With the Las Vegas Raiders.

I'm not sure if the criticism is fair.

I do know it's a mistake though.

If he sent his wellness guru, his life coach,

to go be his eyes and ears with the Las Vegas Raiders, that's a mistake.

That's a big mistake from a perception standpoint.

Alice Guerrero had problems in New England with Bill Belichick.

That's what got Tom Brady somewhat sideways with Bill Belichick.

And the Patriot organization.

I may Tom Brady fan, got supporter.

But it will be interesting to see if he can impose the kind of culture

that he helped create in New England alongside Bill Belichick.

Can he do the same or provide the Raiders any value as a part-time 5% owner

who wills 90% influence but is never on site isn't actually there.

And it's too busy as a broadcaster to focus full time on trying to manage the Las Vegas Raiders.

This past season, they go 3-14 with Pete Carroll and Geno Smith,

the worst offensive line in perhaps in football, a rookie running back.

They got off to a terrible start probably because they're offensive line,

maybe because of Chip Kelly's play calling.

But so far, Tom Brady as an NFL owner with influence.

It's not going well.

They're scapegoating the scapegoat or scapegoating the goat.

Alright, we'll talk about that with Steve Kim and Jay Scappinick in just a moment

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Oh, it looks like these guys are ready to roll.

We don't have to do anything.

Steve Kim, we'll start with you.

Fair to a skate goat.

The goat here.

What the Raiders are doing?

Not yet. It's year one.

This was a bad football team.

But I knew this would be problematic.

Can you serve more than one master in that role? No.

You can't.

And if I was Mark Davis, if I was going to hire anybody,

I would ask anybody who got this job.

That's interesting. Do you have any other interests?

Give any other jobs? Any other passions?

If you do, I love that.

You're a well-rounded individual and you're not what we are looking for.

This whole lifestyle is 24-7-365.

And the more I think about it during your monologue, Jason,

the only two guys that really have, I believe,

hall of fame credentials as a player that transitioned and really succeeded

in the front office, not necessarily ownership to obvious guys.

The great Aussie Newsom and the logo.

Everybody else has been a great hire.

They win the press conference, right? They give you great headlines.

And then they don't want to do the job.

I believe that to be fair, Tom Brady should be judged

from this draft on.

It's, I love you brought up Aussie Newsom in Jerry West

because they were all in on what they were doing.

Jerry West scouted, love going to games, love being involved.

Aussie Newsom obviously a great scout all in with the Baltimore Ravens.

You know, those guys didn't have ownership stakes though.

It's a different role than what, because I don't know if Brady has

some official title other than ownership 5%,

he seems to have clearly a lot of influence.

He's got Alice Guerrero running around, you know,

as his scout or his snitch or whatever.

But that's just not going to work.

And to hear reports this early that the perhaps arguably second best defensive

player and all the football certainly the Raiders best player has a problem

with Alex Guerrero.

That's a really bad sign.

Well, I get it.

I don't want to be associated with the second greatest quarterback

of all time behind Joe Montana.

I get it.

Now, with that said, Jason, let's say you were Mark Davis and I was Tom Brady

or anybody and you said, well, what's your commitment to this job?

You're going to be able to go to all our games and watch the Raiders, right?

And I said to you, well, you know, the thing is I got this other gig.

I'll make a couple of your gig.

I'll leave for about 15 of those weeks.

I'm going to be on assignment at another football game.

Would you hire me?

No, I wouldn't.

But Tom Brady said, hey, I didn't get hired.

I bought or negotiated a five percent state.

I get it, but that's some antics, but let's just be honest.

No one else would be able to get away with this unless they had a big name.

I get it, but for Tom, look, and I love Michael Jordan.

His reign as an owner of the NBA, the problem was he was not committed.

He was not.

And then let me go to another level.

Ted Williams, all time great hitter, Teddy Ballgame.

What a great American he was, right?

He was a terrible manager.

You know why?

Because number one, he was so great he could not understand the plight of the average player.

And the more you read and study, he didn't care about anything else but hitting.

Everything else he did not care about.

So these jobs look very easy in theory.

And they look very shiny and bright when you have big names.

But I think you need grinders in every single one of these rules.

Scott, I think, look, Tom Brady's got a lot of money, a lot of fame.

He can handle this criticism.

But I think people are perhaps being a bit too aggressive.

I thought Jim Rome's take, I know, aren't you a Jim Rome fan?

I thought his take was a bit too aggressive.

Yeah, I can't believe you got me associated with this show and this segment right here.

So let me just clean this off real quick.

Tommy, if you're watching, it's them.

It's not me.

I'm not part of this hit piece.

You got your production staff hasn't looking like a cancer patient on that scapegoat.

It's the thing that was on that graphic.

We see that.

You got.

Go keep drawing scape.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, cue that cue that.

That was doctor.

All right.

I want that on the record.

That is not an actual picture of Tommy.

That way that you guys flashed up on the screen.

You got, yes, my idol and hero, Jim Rome on here, bad mouthing Tom while I'm on.

This is, it's just got too far.

You've got Steve Kim calling him the second greatest quarterback of all time.

Don't think I missed that, Steve.

But look, with all of that said, Tom, it's not me with all that said.

I don't know that these are unfair criticisms.

It is not off to a good start at all right now for Brady.

Look, whether these are confirmed and actual reports or just whispers in the back office or around the league.

There were conversations from what I heard in the off season about maybe bringing in Sam Darnold to play quarterback.

But they decided that Geno Smith was actually the right move at that point.

That's Peter.

And look, look at that picture.

Come on, stop it.

Stop the nonsense with this.

That is a bad picture.

We've made one of the best looking men in America look like Ellen DeGeneres.

Thank you.

Thank you, Jason.

My point exactly.

We need to launch an investigation on the, on the staff right now on whoever, whoever produced that.

Was it you, Luke?

Come on.

You could do better than that.

Anyway.

Look, if Tom, and I'm sure Tom Brady was involved in the conversation like Tom Brady's a quarterback, a great quarterback.

So I would imagine that he was involved in the Geno Smith decision, which went terribly bad.

Pete Carroll obviously blew up in their faces.

One year on the job for a Super Bowl winner in Pete Carroll, just an embarrassing way for his tenure to end there as well.

And now the Max Crosby situation that's unfolding below not good.

And speaking of quarterback, we're heading in a direction where it's looking like Mendoza is going to be the number one overall pick.

I'm not necessarily confident that that's an, I like Mendoza a lot.

I'm rooting for him at the next level.

There are some intangible comparisons between he and Brady.

But I don't know necessarily if that's a great pick at the number one overall pick.

So that quite frankly, that could be like a job ender for most people.

It probably won't end Tom Brady's job, obviously, in this capacity if he doesn't want it to.

But it will just further sink him down in the wrong direction that he's heading in right now.

Pat, let me ask you this is someone, you know, hardcore lifelong Jim Roam fan.

And I'm saying that I'm asking this sincerely for Jim Roam to attack Tom Brady that aggressively.

That's not something Jim Roam would normally do with someone that powerful, that successful.

That's why I go like, man, this is an indication like the word must be out that he's going to be the next Michael Jordan

of ownership or the next, you know, Wayne Gretzky of coaching or magic Johnson of coaching.

I just don't, Roam doesn't, you know, he chooses, he chooses his spots very, his people that he attacks very carefully.

Well, let me just say this.

Roam is, I do love Roam, but he is an avid and outspoken Brady, Brady critic in recent years.

He has been, he has been going at Brady for basically since his last full season in the NFL.

And he thought, look, he, he, he had this theory that Brady, the bacon thing that you, that you heard rappers do.

Yeah.

So Roam has this theory that Brady skipped two weeks of training camp in his last NFL season to get some kind of plastic surgery done on his face.

And then it made him look like Kevin Bacon.

So he has been calling him Bacon or Bacon 45 and then Bacon 46 because of how old he was for basically like the last several years.

So, so Roam has been going at Brady for a while now.

Steve, did you know any of this?

No, but not going to call it the six degrees of Tom Brady.

So Jason, you brought up magic Johnson all time great, one of our personal favorites.

Now, if I'm not mistaken, doesn't he have a percentage share of the Los Angeles Dodgers?

Yes.

And Washington.

But all he is a figurehead.

All he is is a guy that's magic Johnson shows up to the game with cookie, where's the Dodger Jersey.

But no one ever says, man, he really, he, man, he brought in Shohei Otani, the rest of those Japanese.

He's a figurehead.

So that's different.

So when I talk about Tom Brady's job status, it's one thing to have a share of the team.

But when you are the de facto GM and president making football decisions, yes.

That is a different role than being magic Johnson, part owner of the Dodgers.

I got to be Steve when magic was involved with the Raiders.

I mean, the, the Lakers, he wasn't just a figurehead.

What was magic was the coach and then at one time what need the GM or president or whatever.

Okay.

That's about 15 years.

I mean, he was the coach for about 15 games.

That was the 94 95-ish season.

Okay.

Um, that didn't work out.

What was his role when he, he said, I'm not going to be here.

What now when LeBron came?

What was his role with the Lakers then?

So do you really believe he recruited LeBron?

I think LeBron was coming to the Lakers based on other things well beyond basketball.

I, I, I, I, and I thought he had a role with the Lakers.

Did he have a job when he president?

Scab helped me out of here.

He was.

But, okay.

Do you think he was working that job like Jerry West was?

No, I don't.

But, but I'm saying like, anytime you're involved in the sport that you actually played,

you're not going to accept the figurehead role.

Magic Johnson figurehead for the Dodgers?

Yes.

Figurehead with the commanders?

Oh, yes.

In basketball, he wants to, he wants to be involved.

Is he?

Look, look, send me Jason's address.

I am mailing him a Hollywood ending by Aaron Weitzman.

It'll clear up like I suggested this to Scab.

It was a great book.

I've tweeted about it.

You need to read this book.

By the way, Jason, you also forget about magic.

It's also a talk show host.

Just want to make sure you got that.

My name is Bennett.

I ain't in it.

Scab helped me out here.

No, you're right.

He did have, he did have an official role with the Lakers when LeBron was there.

That was a disaster, obviously.

The little clip you're talking about when he was, he's like, I'm not going to be here.

That was basically how he alerted the media that he was, he was basically quitting was in

that sound bite.

And obviously, that was right around like the Russell Westbrook type decision and so forth.

So there was some, there was some bad things that were happening with on Irving's watch there.

But, but guys, look, I guess we had a conversation maybe a month or so ago where I challenged you

to come up with some like offspring of an, oh, of a great owner that has done a good job.

I guess my challenge to you here would be what great players have gone on to become great general

managers or great people within organizations like Jerry West is the only one that's really

glaring in here.

I was eating news on way.

John L. Wei didn't need to produce a super bowl team and then spell off.

I love L. Wei to me is the greatest player of all time.

John Lynch is having some success with the 49ers.

But most people say that's Kyle Shanahan, you know, who has the most leverage.

But John Lynch is having some success.

And that's about it.

That's about it.

Let me, or are we done here?

Have we talked enough about Tom Brady? Have we badmouth Brady enough?

Not me, Tommy. It wasn't me.

Oh, God, scab cheese.

Let me move on to someone I'm more comfortable bad mouthing.

And there's two or three clips over the past 24 hours from Stephen A Smith that have blown my mind.

He set down with Graham Bissinger.

But he was the child prodigy broadcaster who's now like a 30 year old man or late 20s,

a grown man does his own show.

This interview was bizarre.

I think Stephen A Smith, I've always contended here in the last two, three years that he's detached from reality.

But now he's claiming that he witnessed murders while growing up in Hollis Queens

and he didn't snitch and all this.

He just will say anything.

Here's Stephen A talking about, you know, you want to see a dead body?

I've seen one.

I've seen a couple people get gunned down.

I've seen something you get killed.

I see somebody get shot.

I remember one time one, one of the guys that I grew up with.

I would say that he was a close friend, but we knew one another.

He was joking around, arguing with his guy, and they were making jokes towards one another

by each other's mother who could tell the best jokes or whatever.

And this one guy got the better of the other guy.

The other guy goes up to him and shoots him in both kneecaps, said,

I told you to stop f***ing with me, dropped the gun and walked away.

That's kind of stuff that I grew up seeing.

You know, I grew up seeing one of my boys gunned down in the nightclub.

I walked up to him, blew his head off.

You know, just because he didn't like him.

And what do you do when you're in that situation?

Well, unfortunately, you know, you don't like to say these things,

but you know what, you keep your mouth shut.

You know, people talk about snitching, no snitching or whatever,

but you see something like that, you open your mouth, you might be net.

What are we doing here, man?

I think he's running cover for Erica Kirk.

Follow me.

That Candace Owens and Baron Coleman and all these people

are exposing so many Erica Kirk lies this evening.

He's like, well, let me run some cover.

Let me tell some lies and take some heat off of her.

What is going on here?

Didn't he say a couple of years ago that he was protected by the drug dealer?

Yeah.

Because guys who aren't even scoring five points of game in high school basketball,

they're the ones people want to protect, right?

That's the type of stuff you could tell a white guy,

and they're just being all like, oh my god.

Seriously.

And by Mayor June, he might say that he was really the character cue in juice

was really based on his life.

And at the end, he shoved off bishop,

but he didn't say anything, but he has the juice.

Oh my god.

Look, it's all setting up, and I got to give you credit

with like, I hate to do this.

All setting up for that 2028 presidential run.

I was thinking more boys in the hood, but juice is a good analogy as well.

Scabb as the resident white man in this segment,

were you impressed with Stephen A's ghetto tales?

I was impressed with that hose.

I got to straight face or whoever was conducting that interview

and feigned, what do you do in that situation?

That was a hard hitting question.

They're followed by that guy.

It's funny though that you mentioned the Erica Kirk thing.

As I was watching it, I'm not dialed into this Erica Kirk thing,

but my wife is obsessed with this with Candice.

She loves Candice Owen.

She's obsessed with this bride of Charlie series

that's going on right now.

As I was watching these absurd lie after lie

just flow out of Stephen A's mouth,

I thought, how can we somehow sick Candice Owen?

How can we get her on Stephen A?

That's what we need to get her on this.

And then, I mean, you have Jason.

You can have a whole year worth of content of Candice

like just exposing Stephen A Smith.

I've already done it.

People wouldn't take my word for it,

but the guys in endless stream of lies.

He's a pathological liar.

Yesterday, jokingly, I reached out to Baron Coleman

and was like, man, I needed you to,

when I was investigating Stephen A Smith.

Let me play you guys another clip of just,

this is Stephen A being Kid Dino Might, JJ Evans.

And we may have dated you, Scott,

but this is Stephen A telling Graham.

And I don't even know if it's Stephen A telling Graham,

as much as it's Graham telling Stephen A,

man, you were really, really poor.

I mean, holy cow, anyway, play the clip.

Growing up, you know, as the youngest of six,

my brother left home.

The minute he turned after he graduated from high school

at age 17, he instantly went into the military.

He wanted no parts to stay in the hall of Queens.

He wanted out of the house,

because it was a congested household, obviously,

not just because of the six of us as children

with our parents, but my mother was mother Teresa.

He had an aunt, an uncle, a cousin, anybody.

It was in any kind of trouble.

My mother let you come stay with us.

So there were times where we had 11, 12, 13 people in the house

with one working bathroom and all of that stuff,

because my mother was very, very generous.

And so we'll get into that a little bit later too,

but your sister was telling me how that in and of itself

would create tension between your mom and dad,

because he did not like every house of her.

He didn't like that.

He didn't like that, and my mother just had a heart of gold.

And truth be told, we didn't like it because of the congestion,

but we dealt with it.

You know, we were relatively poor, obviously, growing up.

How older and heat were scarce at times?

Order, heat, electricity, full, definitely, the whole bit.

So, you know, we grew up rats and roaches, all of that stuff.

You name it.

How do you start off by saying we were relatively poor?

And then the interviewer says, well, you didn't have electricity,

you didn't have water sometimes, and then you go, well, yeah,

we had rats and roaches, but again, I grew up relatively poor.

And, you know, I know the difference between relatively poor

and just like desolate and not able to eat,

no electricity, no water, rats and roaches.

Again, he's building this narrative about himself

that he, Steve, you remember the movie The Pursuit of Happiness?

Yeah.

Yes, I remember it.

Yeah.

But he's got this fantasy narrative.

He thinks someone's going to write a movie about him,

and maybe they are.

I mean, was that like the halfway house of the Hollis Queen?

And I'm telling him, telling himself to be Horatio Aldo,

I have a question.

If that was like this ramshackle existence, right?

How would you fit that many people in there?

And by the way, by the time you're the 9th or 10th refugee,

you'd be like, yeah, I'm good.

I'll stay at a motel hotel holiday in.

I seriously, so how big was this place?

One working bathroom, 11, 12 people in your house.

Are you showering, pooping?

And here's what, here's my problem with the whole deal.

It was like the guy rode a memoir

and witnessing all these murders that he witnessed in shootings.

That's not it as memoir.

This kind of detail, about 11, 12, 13 people in his house.

And no electric, that's not in the memoir.

But now with Graham Bissinger, now that you're running for president,

now let's talk about, literally it was like,

I'm dating myself again, but it was like Steve Martin and the jerk.

That's what I started, I think.

Scab, what's going on here?

I think Jason, the problem is there was just too many details,

too many great stories to include in just one.

You see, that's that was the problem.

Maybe he needed to, perhaps there's a second book

and Graham Bissinger got the second book.

So he was helping to provide some of the details and stuff

that Steve and I was missing in his cursory answers.

So I think that might, maybe there's like two or three additional books.

Maybe there's a whole volume, the Stephen A Smith volume of books

that will be, he can be dropping them maybe like every other month

on his run up to the 2028 election.

Look, are you familiar with good times?

Scab, do you know who Kid Dino might is?

Yeah.

Yeah, we've, Stephen A Smith is Kid Dino might.

He's JJ Evans.

I, here's my next prediction gentleman and audience.

I'm just telling you, he's doing this interview with Graham Bissinger

and they're selling a narrative.

There's going to be a book or a movie about Stephen A Smith

as he ramps up his presidential campaign.

They're going to do Netflix for somebody

has clearly agreed to tell Stephen A story.

And so now he's floating these details

that will be in this movie or book.

This is all part of a campaign

to make this guy a presidential candidate.

I'm telling you that you guys should be to end.

So maybe Candace Owens and Baron Coleman

will hop on this.

I want to, one more thing with Stephen A Smith.

I want to get to, we got the clip of Stephen A Smith

and his response to the Pelicans yesterday.

Let's play that.

I'm at the top of the heap in this profession

and getting paid for it by the way.

And by the way, my popularity is more than anybody

you got on your team outside of Zion Woods.

And again, not throwing any shade on the plays.

Just giving you facts.

Why am I bringing all of these things up

New Orleans Pelicans?

Because you can't about you.

We are approaching the tail end of the season.

We are in the month of March.

Nearly 65 games have been played.

And you're still searching for your 20th victory.

Y'all are horrible.

You've been horrible.

Not the city with those wonderful fans.

Not the city with those wonderful restaurants.

Not the city with those wonderful people.

Just the organization that refuses to represent them.

The way that they should be represented.

Because y'all have been trash.

That is the reality of the situation.

I believe this was like a 12 minute response

or a 12 minute segment on first take.

The intro by the the blonde woman

that hosts the show.

Then they paid a little of the backstory of what the shot.

Let's give that just for context for people

that didn't maybe watch the show yesterday.

Here's the Pelicans taking a shot

at Stephen A over X.

I believe yesterday or the day before.

This man was a bona fide scrub.

He can't play.

No disrespect whatsoever.

But I'm sorry to call tell everybody the truth.

The man cannot play the game of basketball.

He has small hands.

He can't catch the ball.

He's got bad feet.

He can't really move even though he's mobile.

Doesn't really know what he's doing.

Doesn't have a post move that he puts to memory

that he can do two times in a row.

He has no game whatsoever.

Plays no defense.

Doesn't have the heart, the passion,

or anything that comes with it.

That they put out a 30 second clip over Twitter or X.

He files a 12 minute rebuttal on national TV on ESPN.

This seems like an overreaction.

This is all because of his criticism of Zion Williamson

and his eating habits.

Yesterday I defended Stephen A Smith.

Today I regret defending Stephen A Smith after seeing this

overreaction 12 minutes.

And you know how successful I am.

And I'm more popular than anybody on your team.

This thin skin doesn't describe it.

The guy is scared.

And the overreaction is a message

to other NBA franchises, other NBA players

that I will take 12 minutes of content

because he trashed the pelicans,

social media team,

and called them out.

He's trying to maybe put pressure,

maybe call someone a job or whatever.

But it's actually fear that other athletes,

Zion, or Kevin Durant,

or other franchises,

will react the exact same way as the New Orleans pelicans

and out the fact that Stephen A is a fraud.

He's doing too much here.

Scab, I'm going to let you fire first.

Yeah, look, some people Jason just don't know when to quit

or when to quit when they're ahead

because Stephen A Smith,

we've been here before.

Like he is a very unsympathetic character.

You really don't want to defend him in any way

or side with him in any way.

I know at least I don't.

But like, for instance,

last year when he and LeBron

got into their little tip on the sidelines,

I was I was team Stephen A,

and that one obviously,

but then he took it too far in his retorts

and everything that he did for the weeks that followed.

And this is just a prime example.

I don't think anybody was not on Stephen A Smith's side

on this one initially.

He was calling out the load management era

and one of the primary faces of it in Zion, Williamson,

like we're all with you, Stephen A.

Just laugh off the 32nd piece

and go about your day.

You were already in the right on this one.

Instead though he had to do that yesterday,

which was just so utterly cringe-worthy.

There's nothing you want to hear less

than some guy telling you how good he is,

how popular he is,

like how big his brand is.

Like those aren't things you tell other people.

Those are things that other people learn about you.

You know what, what's the famous thing?

When you're graded something,

other people will tell you about it, right?

Like you don't have to tell others, Stephen A.

Like me thinks the gentleman doth protest too much here.

Like that was just so utterly nauseating

and now I am again on the anti-Steven A Smith side

on this along with you.

Steve?

Okay.

I just...

I agree with everything you guys said.

However,

when he says that he has more reach

and is more popular than any

of the players on the pelicans,

he ain't wrong.

Is he?

I don't know if it matters.

Okay, but he also performs his job

a lot more consistently than Zion.

I have to admit that.

Hold on, hold on, let me push back.

Zion's facing real competition.

There are 29 other NBA teams.

There's great players.

Stephen A has been bragging.

I'm the number one morning show.

Who's the competition, Stephen A?

Zion's out there playing

with LeBron and KD and Steph Curry

and Antman and Wimbee and Bubba.

You know, he's got 29 teams

they're competing against.

Yeah.

I thought you were going to say Zion

is facing his enemy and it is him.

Okay, I get that too.

The rest of the league also,

they're pretty good at basketball too.

What that said?

Again, I'm not disagreeing.

However, I got to be the voice of reason

here as always.

I believe the general casual sportsman

when they ask him,

hey, do you don't Stephen A Smith

whether they like him or not?

You know, now they say,

name two guys on the pelicans.

I don't think most of America

could or can.

Let me let me say this though.

Hold on for a second.

Hold on for a second.

We got a guy from New Orleans.

Zion Williamson is the only person

on the pelicans I know.

Who else should I know?

Well, Jeremiah Fears and Derek Queen

those are two stud rookies.

But, Shantai Murray just came back

to the NBA.

I don't know.

All right, be quiet.

What were you about to say?

Zion also, while he hasn't really done

anything to preserve his spot

in the NBA once he's gone in,

he certainly does,

he got a deserving entry into the NBA.

You know, he was the national player

of the year as a true freshman at Duke.

Like,

Stephen A Smith, I mean,

what is his real true background?

I don't even know anymore at this point.

You know, the spotlight that he has

on this huge platform that he likes

to beat his chest about and talk about.

So, frequently, is he really like

a deserving recipient of that?

This is talent dictate that he should have it.

I don't know. I don't think so, really.

Steve Kim has forgotten

more about football basketball

and baseball than Stephen A Smith will ever know.

Steve Kim's actually more qualified

for that job than Stephen A Smith

and Steve basically quit watching sports

five years ago.

He still knows far more

than Stephen A Smith.

Stephen A Smith purports to be a New York Knicks fan,

doesn't know who's on their roster.

Stephen A thinks that

or thought that if you missed a field

going on third down, you could re-kick

on fourth down.

Stephen A doesn't know what NFL players

are playing week to week.

It's a laundry list.

He doesn't know sports.

He's been installed.

I'm probably biased.

But I got far more respect

for what Zion has done

to earn his spot in basketball.

The guy actually was a

great high school basketball player

had a hell of a one year at Duke.

Stephen A Smith lies

about his background,

has fabricated his background,

and was a laughing stock

as a sports writer,

as a writer, couldn't write,

everything had to be rewritten.

I know I sound jealous and angry,

but he's been installed.

Zion Williamson

hasn't been installed.

He actually earned his

opportunity, hasn't made the most

of his opportunity,

but he actually earned his opportunity.

Steve.

I don't disagree with that.

Everything you said,

he's far more qualified

for that job than Stephen A.

That's why I won him over with that.

Again, that's a matter of opinion

and I happen to agree with it,

but again, I'm just trying to be fair and honest.

That's what I do.

You're right.

When it comes to sports knowledge,

do I believe Stephen A Smith

is someone I'd listen to on a daily basis?

No, I've told you that,

that I do not. However, I'm just saying

in the context of that one part

of his soliloquy,

yes, I believe the general public knows

more about him

that's almost undeniable.

But Steve,

there is nothing in this world

more insufferable than a,

do you know who I am?

Or don't you know who I am?

Type drop? No one wants to hear.

It's just toned that for him to include that

in part of his little monologue

or whatever. Like leave that out, Stephen A.

You are already ahead.

You in the court of public opinion

and you just sabotage yourself

with your insufferableness.

Tell me regret instantly,

defending yesterday.

Let's keep it moving.

I want to return to a

magic titty night

in Atlanta.

Their strip club night.

I did not know this yesterday, gentlemen,

and you tell me

if you knew it.

But Jamie Gertz,

she's the wife

of Tony Restler,

who owns the Atlanta Hawks.

She's an actress.

Or was an actress.

Maybe it's probably still is.

I don't know if it ever goes away.

Has one of the longest

necks in Hollywood as you can see there.

But anyway,

she did a documentary series

on Magic City that airs on Netflix.

She is the actual

brains behind

Magic City night

with the Atlanta Hawks.

In the NBA

to promote her documentary.

There was a five-part

docu-series on Magic City.

This is just

the wife's owner using

the NBA to promote

her Netflix series.

Did either one of you all know that yesterday?

No, and right now

I'm in the middle of a cold war documentary on Netflix.

I'm going to dump that for this.

That one looks

much more interesting. I'll be honest with you.

For research

purposes only.

None of this surprises me.

Of course, there had to be a tie-in.

And Jason, when you mentioned

long necks, I immediately

thought of Harvey Williams.

I know you must have covered.

I just thought I knew that in there.

Yeah.

Smoke show wife he had.

I'll add that by the way.

In Kansas City.

But I'm sorry. Go ahead,

or series is on stars.

I'm trying to go ahead.

Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. So it's not Netflix.

So that means Steve, you're going to have to call your

cable provider or go to

YouTube TV and get your streaming options updated.

Yeah. I mean, I didn't know any of this.

Either Jason, but I'm with Steve.

This is the third time now I've been on

when you've talked about this.

I have to watch the docu-series now at this point.

Just so I can know what we're talking about.

Better.

So yeah, I mean, I and speaking of

long necks, Jason, I don't know if

Commissioner Adam Silver also has a very long neck.

Or if it's just the lack of hair that accentuates

the length of his neck.

But I think maybe there's some kind of a

I don't know a long necks

and particle going on there.

Maybe so. So Silver was like, sure,

you want to promote your stripper docu-series

in an actual NBA game.

Let's let's greenlight it. I'm in.

Yeah. I think the long necks are so they can bury their

neck in about how stupid they're being right now.

I want to bask of all this topic up a tiny bit more.

Dre Mungering has commented on this.

And he's calling stripping an art form.

Let's play the club.

I think to point out that they have a steam issues

because that's the line of work they chose.

I actually think is less protective of women.

Because you're condemning something

as if it's actually an art.

Like I don't know if you've ever been.

But like if you see it in action.

It's actually a form of art

that some choose to indulge in

and some choose not to indulge in.

But to say that

because a woman decides

that that's the art that they want to

partake in

and that the customer

wants to take in.

I think it's reflective on society's thoughts

and how they want you things.

But I don't necessarily think it's a hit on

the esteem of women.

When you talk about the esteem of these women,

might I mention that Cardi B

is currently on a world tour

selling out stadiums

and it is quite the entertaining show

I actually went

at Chase Center a few days ago

selling out stadiums

and her background

would be that.

Steve,

that's an in living color

skit that we just saw

that was art.

What he just did was art.

Well, no.

When I'm listening to this,

I just think of don't be a menace.

I just want to blow it up.

I mean,

so here's the thing Jason says

you've had more experience than anybody.

And I believe that

a fine of intelligence is deferring to those

who know more about a subject than yourself.

When you would partake

as a connoisseur

back in your olden days

before you flipped the page, right?

Did you ever think like wow,

I could spend a lot

on a moneyor baritone cost.

Do you ever have that feeling?

Yes, I actually did.

Come on, you probably did.

That's a bad question.

But,

I,

I don't know what his IQ is.

If he has one,

that's,

that was an in living color skit.

Was he trying to be funny there?

Or is he really,

why can't people just say what it is?

It's pornography.

And Dre Monster just say,

hey, it's a former pornography

that some people enjoy.

Dre Monster can say, I enjoy it.

If that pornography is not for you,

it's art,

and acting like these,

because

the Picasso or the whole

I just can't.

I didn't catch you.

I just,

just,

Scout, help me out here.

Yeah, I, look,

Dre Monster is far too unintelligent

to try to pretend to be so profound.

Like, the next time this guy

strings together,

he'll be back will be the first time in his entire life.

I, I just don't understand

why he feels the need to do this.

Why puts yourself on air like this?

It's, it's, who is listening to this podcast?

Like, just do what you were designed to do, Dre Monster.

Play basketball at a high level.

And please,

leave the talking to other people that,

again, know how to formulate

complete sentences and stack them

back to back.

I have a question, was that live?

That's like a pre-recorded thing.

If I'm a producer, if I cut,

let's cut edit this.

Let's, let's start over now.

That's fine.

You know what she, you know what he is?

You know what he is?

You know what he is?

You know what he is?

You know what he is?

You are on a tightrope with no safety net.

And that was a type of thing.

I'd be like, guys, let's cut this.

Let's edit this out completely.

It works.

They need to teach Dre Mon how to actually do a podcast.

How to actually formulate sentences.

Can they say some crazy stuff?

But they edit it up well.

They produce it well.

It's Dre Mon looks like someone

with a third graders vocabulary

that's trying to give his

high school thesis presentation

and is struggling for virtually every word.

And Dre Mon, I know you got a lot of money.

And that's great.

You can play basketball.

You're a hell of a defensive player.

You're a Hall of Fame basketball player.

I get it.

But you're not very bright.

You're very low IQ.

And you should keep that a secret

by not talking as much.

Just go play basketball.

Shut up and dribble.

I mean, Kendrick Perkins

said something interesting.

Said that if Jalen Bronson

leads the next to a championship

he will be the greatest Nick play the club.

I want to expect that Jalen Bronson

to be here in one of the

hardest market in sports

in New York carrying the weight on his shoulders.

And what he's already done for this franchise.

I feel like he's

one championship away from being

the greatest Nick ever.

The story matters to me.

Drafted what late second round

by the Dallas Mavericks

wasn't drafted to be a bad man

leading the charge of a franchise

and being and doing it

in the next uniform.

And test like today

is like the ones that he need to ace.

It's great sport coat

Kendrick has on.

That's a good look Kendrick.

Scott, what's your reaction?

Look, I don't think this is the problem.

I don't see it happening.

Like I don't see any way that the Nick

do win an NBA championship with Bronson.

You know what that's

it's hard for me to then

infer that he does win a championship.

If I really just don't see any way

I mean for me in my lifetime

let me just say this.

Patrick Ewing is the guy

I think of most you know

synonymously with with the New York

Nick's I'll even I'll

throw in Walt Frazier as well

as a as a great Nick

player. So

look though they haven't won

the bottom line is they haven't won in like

five decades and like it's been over

like 50 some years since this team

has won like one of the great

franchises in NBA history

the mecca of basketball

in NYC

in Gotham if they can

if he can deliver

that's it can be the main guy

and and be the finals MVP

in a run that ends

with the next winning the chip

I mean he might Kendrick

might be on to something here quite frankly

Yeah I'm looking

Patrick Ewing the highest ever finish

in MVP voting was fourth

and you know Patrick Ewing

maybe is the greatest Nick

Walt Frazier

it wasn't well as read a

Nick uh let's read

let him to a championship

the big yeah the game seven the big

Willis re when he limps on to the

court and the next win that

so yeah I mean you can make maybe

a case for that as well

I think it's an indictment

of the Nick's history more than

it is a celebration of

Jalen Bronson Steve your thoughts

Yeah I mean that's the old joke

they think they have the tradition of

the Celtics while really having the history

of the Pacers or something like

this read Dave DeBusher

Bill Bradley Clyde Frazier

Earlman Roe came aboard

but I don't look

before that statement was made

alright so we you know look

maybe Kendrick's on to something

but before that statement was made last night

I would like to ask any

Nick fans did you ever

even have the thought in your mind

when it comes to the hierarchy

of the New York Nicarbockers

yeah it's Jalen Bronson

and then some were Patrick

viewing afterwards no come on guys

guys scap I'm disappointed

in you for even even thinking

about that come on I mean you're

look I gotta say I gotta be honest with you

that's a that's a great take I mean

look at the look at the other two

you know principle franchises

obviously the Lakers and the Celtics

like five of the 10 best

players that have ever lived

on planet earth the whole of

basketball at some point played

Lakers like even look at

Larry Bird and Bill Russell

two of like the easy top 10

players of all time that were

Celtics like the we're not talking

about the best players in franchise

history we're talking about the best

players in NBA history and the

Nick's who are allegedly in that

you know mix with the Celtics

and Lakers where they're all

time great players I never really

Steve you gotta blew my mind was I

never really thought to sit and

think why can the next

not last so some elite player

they're a huge market they have

tons of money what is going on

here with with the New York

next ownership is the I guess

the better question the owner

scape it is the owner it's

Dolan Dolan is a repellent

and there's no doubt about it and

I've always said it was so funny

like 15 20 years ago

when LeBron was out on the market

and I remember all these east coast

got to go to New York and I'm

like why the NBA has been

fine with I think their last

NBA championship was 73

right I think they beat the

Lakers and they've been

this franchise that that that

it's an unbelievably big market

it's an electrified arena

but their history really is

not all that great now they had

a really hard productive run

with Pat Riley reality

years they made one finals

of Cinderella run in 99

but outside of that they've

been a mediocre franchise

in a big city

here's what doesn't really get

talked about is

they had

in the late 1960s

early 1970s with Willis Reed

they

and keep in mind

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is in this

NBA at that time

they had an opportunity

with Willis Reed

he was MVP once he finished

second the year before

and he finished

fourth I believe the year

after he was MVP

so they had a

player that was arguably

the best in the NBA

over that three four year window

and they end up winning the

championship but I think he got

hurt and was never really

one of short circuit

of the New York Dicks

but they had a chance

Willis Reed was on a path

to be a top 20 all time great

NBA player

and then injuries failed him

and you know Patrick Ewing

had the misfortune

of playing at the same time

when the to me the NBA

was at its zenith

that you had Jordan

you had Magic and Bird

so that's tough man

because I don't know who

said it earlier this week

but like I don't know if we

give Hakim enough

or all the credit that he

actually deserves as a great

player so maybe a little

bad for misfortune

hey guys I want to end on a

more no two humorous notes

one did you see this bra

do we have the clip of the

bra with the women

play this and then take it

out later there was a bra

in college basketball

I just assumed

that it was guys

come to find out it was

girls or women

and they cold cocked

a female ref

knocked her out cold

she's there laying

on the the court

we have any thoughts here

you know

the bad news is

someone got knocked out

and I hope that lady

it may be a flop though

did you see this last clip

Steve it may be a flop

don't wait

come on the good news is

it's the most viral clip of

women's college basketball

since Caitlin Clark was in Iowa

that's a little mixed bag

scape you got a thought here

yeah I mean that's look

like a fight that I've seen

all year in the NBA

so that's I mean

yeah okay that was definitely

a flop though I can confirm

now now now that was

a fact

that was a flop

finally gentlemen

I got to get to Sean King

but I want to

we're done with the women's

basketball I want to

SGA

in this outfit

last night scape

what is SGA

this is him coming into the arena

and I gotta admit

him coming into the arena

in this coat it's like man

that's a really warm

coat and if he's somewhere

where it's cold

his face is warm and fuzzy

but then after the game

he shows up to the press conference

after the game

what is this

what is this

sometimes you just have to

admit that you don't understand

something and I don't get

I don't understand this look

I don't understand this look on a man

I don't really understand this look on

anybody quite frankly

and I like the fact that the clip

included that it was

46 degrees in New York

when he's walking in that

46 I've lived in Florida

for about nine years

and I wouldn't even bundle up

like that

it for 46 degree weather

if I came up north

Steve

where have you gone David Stern

you know back in my young

and cordial days when David Stern

came up with this dress coat

I thought it was the worst

I thought it was the worst

I thought it was the worst

I thought it was the worst

it was the worst

it was the worst

it was the worst

it was an ugly

but it's like

no

let me

and my estimates.

It's hard for me to understand these guys.

What they're doing.

Steve, as in scab, I'm sure you travel a lot.

How do you travel with that coat?

Do you wear it on the airplane?

I know they fly private, but who, can you put that

in your luggage?

Can you, again, because that was my thought,

I was like, how would I travel with that coat?

And again, I know how much these guys waste their money.

And I wonder if he just leaves that coat in this hotel

or leaves it in that city where he's visiting

and just throws it on the go.

These guys waste money at that level.

Like AI, Alan Iverson said that that's what he did

when he was in his prime.

He would just buy suits on road trips

and then just leave them.

Jason, the only answer really,

you've got to carry that on your lap.

Like, you can't sit with it on the plane

because it's too puffy.

So you're then, you're infringing

on the other people next to you.

And obviously you can't crumple it up in your bag.

You've got to just, you wear it onto the plane

and then you take it off and you just hold it

on your lap for the entire flight.

Steve, I know you've had that issue

before with some of your wardrobe choices.

Anyway, thank you guys.

Great job.

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I want to take you back to the beginning of the show.

Tom Brady seems to be under the rest, under attack.

For his role, he owns 5% of the Las Vegas Raiders,

but he seems to be getting 90% of the attention,

and he's getting attacked Jim Rome.

It's come after him pretty aggressively.

We're calling him the scapegoat for the Las Vegas Raiders.

Do you think Tom Brady is going to fail as an owner

the same way that Michael Jordan did,

same way Wayne Gretzky did, as a head coach in the NHL?

Are these all-time great players maybe not the right fit?

I don't want to use unfair as the word to describe

the criticism of Tom Brady, but I'm going to say

this is extremely unfair, because people probably are a little,

let's say, jealous of the success post-career,

Tom Brady has had the way he's elevated even higher.

I mean, number one, TV analysts in the National Football League,

he's on every commercial, he's at every major event.

He, all of a sudden, is a minority owner of an NFL team.

He's the only 5% NFL team owner in the entire league

that people act like is the majority owner of the team.

So let's keep this in kind of things.

Mark Davis is the majority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.

So regardless of how big of a personality

and icon Tom Brady is in and around the game of football,

it's still Mark Davis's team.

I agree with you. I want to play you this clip

of Jim Rome going after Tom Brady.

And I've just, and I got a little bit of history,

because I don't listen to Jim the way that I used to,

because when I got my own show and everything going on,

but he's been criticizing Tom Brady for the last

two or three years, maybe three or four years.

But anyway, let's play the clip.

Hopson, four times a year,

calls shots from wherever the hell he is,

and just leaves his creepy lap dog,

er, nark, er,

wellness guru, behind,

in his stead, to make everybody uncomfortable.

No wonder Max wants out.

And he absolutely should.

Anybody who wants to win should be running away

from this slab of bacon and his wellness coordinator.

I'm telling you this, dude.

This dude's got the best job ever.

Think about it.

Best job ever.

He only has to show up four or five times a year.

He has almost total autonomy and power.

He can say and do whatever the hell he wants

from wherever the hell he wants.

All while having his rats and moles report to him,

while he runs an NFL franchise remotely.

Hell, best job ever.

But he's doing the worst job ever.

Man, that is good work if you can get it.

So that's him traction about Alex Guerrero,

his little wellness guru that he's brought with him now

from New England at Tampa to Las Vegas.

Jim Rome over the top here.

I'm Jim Rome is my guy for full disclosure.

That's my guy been on his show multiple times.

Shout out to Jim Rome.

We both love forced racing.

So we kind of connected through that.

Is he trying to make this his modern day Jim Everett?

Like is he saying this to get a response from Tom Brady

like to elevate the wrong platform,

which he's still getting paid a gazillion dollars.

But from a notoriety standpoint,

he's not nearly as big, you know,

nationally as it used to be,

that to me would have to be the angle.

Because if this was true,

wouldn't the target then be Mark Davis

and allowing that to be true?

Like is it me own something?

I don't care who becomes minority owner.

I still got ultimate say so.

And if you're doing something inside of my company

that I dislike, then it's very easy for me to get rid of that.

So I'm not going to push this on Brady, you know.

I actually don't know when I live in Vegas

how actually involved Tom Brady is.

I know he's around at times,

but because of the attention that was brought last year

with his broadcasting job

and how that can kind of cross

barriers at times with teams that the Raiders are playing,

I don't even know like day-to-day

how impactful Brady is inside the organization.

I know I met the guy he has here.

I've heard some different things,

but again, Clint Kubiak just got the job.

Clint Kubiak seems like a young guy with a vision

that understands what it takes to win.

I know John Spitek from being in Tampa.

He's a good friend of Jason Light,

who's a friend of mine.

So I know he has a vision for what he wants the Raiders to be.

So I'm not sure everything Rome said

is completely 100% accurate and two.

If the Raiders fail, I'm not blaming Brady.

If they win, I'm not giving Brady all the praise either.

That makes a lot of sense.

Let me move on Logan Paul,

the YouTube return boxing multi-millionaire

is offering up a million dollars to any NFL player

that can beat him in a fight.

Let's play the club.

Any of the football players want to fight?

Can you see what happens?

What football players would trade a beat is not a single one.

Not a single one.

Not a single one.

I would put any amount of money

that you could put.

McCaff?

Not a single football player.

He could beat me in a boxing match.

Miles Garrett.

That is on God.

Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett.

I would throttle Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett.

I will bet you admit why do we choose him?

It could be any name,

but any football player.

Miles Garrett.

Puka Nukuwa.

I don't even know.

Don't even try calling out Sam Darnold.

Sam Darnold.

No, don't do it.

It doesn't matter.

A million dollars.

A million dollars.

You come to the gym.

We put on boxing gloves.

We see how it goes.

Sean, is he right?

So first of all, shout out to the Paul Brothers.

I mean, their story is one of the greatest

rags the richest stories I've ever seen in American history.

When you look at where they came from and what they've

grown into,

hats it to them for their acumen from a business standpoint.

My dad always raised me to say,

words matter.

And if you take the time to listen to the specific things

that are being said,

the juxtaposition that comes from that

gets you closer to the truth.

This started with

I can be any NFL player in a fight,

which is an outright lie.

There are a bunch of guys in natural football.

And right now that will walk Logan Paul's ass in a boxing ring.

Then he fixed it though,

when he came back around to it.

And he specified it had to be boxing

and inside the ring with gloves on,

which having grew up around the great winky right

in Antonio Tarver and been in the boxing ring multiple times.

That is a conditioning thing.

And it's a technique thing.

And no matter how good you might be fighting on the street,

if you aren't learned in that specific line of combat,

then you probably have no chance.

And he's been training as a boxer for a long time.

I actually fought Floyd Mayweather before he went to the WWE.

So I agree with him.

Probably in a boxing match,

something that he's been training after.

Ever with gloves, three minute rounds,

he has a sizable advantage.

But don't get it twisted Logan in a regular street fight.

There are a whole bunch of NFL guys

that get on your top.

Well, look, a street fight,

a lot of that has to do with stamina, too.

And it's a different style.

And if Miles Garrett gets his hands on Logan Paul,

it is lights out.

That's true.

He can't grab him in a boxing match.

And he got to be able to move and cut off the ring

and handle getting punched in the nose.

It's a lot of stuff that go up.

I've been in the ring multiple times, Jason.

I'm just telling you, that's a different animal.

But Logan Paul leave me on bail,

called you out on X.

And he responded to leave me on bail saying,

one, you're not a current NFL player.

Oh, he does that smoke.

Yes, he ducked the smoke.

And then he said,

you are actually a trained fighter.

So I'd have to actually train to fight you.

And I'm not going to leave the WWE

to put that time in.

Because leave me on bail, call them out, add them to everything.

And then he came up with the I got all the stuff going on.

I don't have the time to prepare.

So so Logan knows what it is.

He wants to get an NFL player just got a big ego

and can really street fight and get him in the ring

where he knows he has a massive advantage.

We see you Logan.

Our eyes are wide open.

We see you.

Do you do you think leave me on bail would give him any trouble?

I have no idea.

All I saw was the clip leave me on post it.

The one thing I will say to both Paul Brothers

can actually box.

So it's not going to be like a walk over easy life.

Not like you getting in there with,

you know, just some podcast that is never trained.

They've been training and come back sports for a long time.

But,

hey, leave me on say he want to smoke.

He's been boxing almost the entire time since he been retired.

So if he want to smoke and Logan,

you looking for somebody with NFL credentials?

Hey, leave me on the Logan.

Let's lace it up.

It's funny.

He added that stipulation as it relates to Levy on

because out of his mouth, he said Tom Brady.

He said Gwonkowski.

They're out of the NFL.

They're retired.

And so there's only certain guys.

Because trust, I think there's even,

I would imagine, Sean,

and you would know better than I do,

that there are some NFL players

that boxing is a part of their workout routine.

And so what they're levels the boxing.

Like when you hear Shakur Stevenson talk,

he been fighting zero nine years old,

like six years old.

Like you got to look at the history of the Paul Brothers.

They've been combat training long before they became

famous for their podcast and social media stuff.

Like so they, uh, they, they 15, 20 years in.

Like that matters in boxing.

That's why he's so confident in what he's saying.

Remember, he went to distance with Floyd Mayweather now.

He pretty much had Mayweather to a point.

It was like, I hear a little bigger,

a little stronger than I thought.

Didn't someone just beat him up though?

I was with tight, with tight.

Jake, didn't hit me.

Someone, one of the Paul Brothers just got beaten up,

I did, didn't they by?

That was, that was his brother, Jake.

Anthony Joshua.

Joshua, Anthony Joshua.

Yeah, there's a lot of people with losing Anthony Joshua.

Yeah, and outside the boxing, Jason.

And so I can't,

which one of them is most famous?

Is it Jake or Logan?

Who's the most famous?

They started out doing the podcast boxing together.

Jake is kind of taking that company and taking it to the top.

He's included women's boxing.

And that's how they got the big Amanda Serrano Katie Taylor fight

the Soul Out Matter Square Garden.

Logan kind of went on a different path and went in the WWE.

So now he's more wrestling than he is doing any boxing.

But they're brilliant.

They, they, what they've been able to do and the position,

they've been able to ascertain and unlike a lot of boxers that have like supposed

money, money team and all that stuff.

Like Jake is actually the one taking the risk when he puts these fights up.

And he's doing it gets all the upside.

So shout out to those guys and what they've been able to do from a business standpoint.

I don't want to move on to the NFL.

The Arizona Cardinals appear to be moving on from Kyler Murray.

And there's talk, how much, you know, does he want to continue in football?

Would he consider baseball?

The Oakland A's have not given up on Kyler Murray.

I believe their general manager said this.

Kyler isn't an elite NFL quarterback.

And I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities for him to continue his football career.

That said, he and his baseball representatives know that we're always open to him exploring

and return to baseball with the A's if that time ever comes.

What do you make of that, Sean?

Should Kyler Murray consider moving to baseball?

100%.

100%.

If I was Kyler, because he was so highly thought of coming out of high school.

If I'm not mistaken, he was a top half for the first round selection.

Six coming out of high school, right in Texas, right?

So he obviously in the baseball space has been viewed as an elite prospect.

And here's why time hills wounds.

His brand is so damaged in the National Football League now.

He's not going to get a fair shot.

He's going to go somewhere.

Maybe the Jets we has no chance to be successful.

And the only reason that he's even a viable option is because the Cardinals are on the hook

for the majority of his contract.

So a new team can sign him at the vet minimum, which I think is like 1.3 or 1.5 million.

And the Cardinals are on the hook next year for the rest of that 36 million or whatever.

So the like when Russell was cut by the Broncos and he went to Pittsburgh for a year because the Broncos

had your responsibility for all that salary kind of the same situation.

So if I was Kyler, I'd take my shot.

He's only 28.

And the A's are a young team, a lot of young players.

The A's got a big move on the horizon coming to Las Vegas in the next couple of years.

So if he could get in that organization and work his way up to being an everyday player

at the Major League Baseball level, why not try it?

And how would that impact his money?

I think that money's guaranteed.

That money's guaranteed for this upcoming year.

I think it's like 35, 36 million.

That's guaranteed.

And two years from now, if the baseball thing don't work in your 30,

now out of sight, out of mind, time heals all wounds,

reputation may be rehabilitated a little bit.

You want to try and jump back into football.

It'll only be 30.

And we see guys now with all of the science around health and longevity playing well into their late 30s.

Yeah, I think you've you've talked me into it.

The option, hey, go do it for a year or two and then come back and some, look,

because even if you come back, if you ever get an opportunity to start again,

he would get another second contract.

Let's say he came back originally on some one or two year low ball deal.

Has any success though?

He gets to eat again and gets to sign one of those mega contracts.

And or maybe he takes off in baseball and that base, it's a lot easier to play baseball

until age 40 than it is to play football.

And man, that baseball money is really good as I mean, it's really good as well.

And the thing about baseball is they have proven spots for whatever your expertise is.

If you're a great defensive player that can still basis, they got a spot for you.

If you a guy that can hit but can't play great defense, they got a spot for you.

A starting pitcher that's not got his best stuff can become a middle reliever or a guy out the

bullpen. Like there's so many different ways in baseball to have a viable spot on the team for a

long time. If I was calling man, go chase that for two years. Why not?

I want to move on to the Cleveland Browns, their new offensive coordinator. I believe Travis

Switzer has basically selling the open quarterback narrative. No one is Cleveland's starter.

It's a wide open deal. Let's play the club. You don't take a job if you're not excited about

quarterbacks that are in the building. And it's more than one. You know, we're excited about

Dylan. We're excited about Deshaun. You know, anytime you have a guy who has had the success that he's

had, I mean, he's got to be part of the equation as far as when we talk about competing for that job.

And then Shadoram, what he was able to show last year, you know, he's still young. He has a lot of

growth that he can still achieve, especially year one to year two. I mean, only started what six,

seven games last year. So yeah, I think there's a lot of a lot to be excited about in that room.

He mentioned Dylan first, then Deshaun, and then Shador. Should we read anything into that?

First of all, that's all cap. The fact that he mentioned Dylan Gabriel at all, it's just cap.

I cut it off. That was the most egregious pick of the entire draft last year was the Cleveland

Browns taking Dylan Gabriel into third round. Dylan Gabriel is not a starting quarterback in a

national football league. So cut that out. Secondly, the only reason Deshaun is viable is because of what

Oh, yeah, not at all. Not at all. The matchables aren't there. The talent isn't there.

Could he be a backup? Maybe be a filling for a game or two? Yes. But a full-time starting quarterback.

No, I don't know any team. Deshaun is viable because of what we've seen with Baker Mayfield and

more recently, Sam Darnal. So because you can't move on from Deshaun because of the salary

cap implications, maybe just maybe Deshaun has a chance to reinvent himself. Daniel Jones did it

in Indianapolis. Sam Darnal did it in Minnesota in Seattle. Baker did it in Tampa.

Shredor, this is the guy that taught monkey and those guys in Baltimore liked coming out of the

draft. Remember the narrative was Shredor and his people said they didn't want to get selected

by the Ravens because they didn't want to back up Lamar Jackson. They got a lot of criticism

for that. But if you pill a layer, it's back. It looks like Tom Munkin and that group were

interested in Shredor. And now Tom Munkin is the head coach of the Browns. So for all three

guys, you couldn't ask for a better opportunity, even though I think his cap pretending to

Dylan Gabriel. This is a blank slate. The canvas is clean. No matter what you have done in the past,

this is your opportunity to change the narrative moving forward because Tom Munkin don't have any

issues with anybody. This OC don't have any issues with anybody. Now it's about you putting the

work in. You showing up early. You stand late. When the film comes on in the button hits that says

play, you putting something on film day in and day out that makes them believe you the right one.

Can't ask for a better opportunity if you're any of those guys.

Sean, I think you're giving the guy too much to benefit of the doubt. I'm talking about Travis

Whitzer. Let's say you're right, which I tend to but I never liked Dylan Gabriel because he's

admitted. I don't like short quarterbacks. His arm isn't strength isn't very strong.

But this coach has seen the film. He knows what he's dealing with. And the first name he throws

out is Dylan Gabriel. Not to me as a way of saying, hey, Dylan Gabriel has a real shot.

I think he may be sending a message to Shadour and to Dion that, hey, you've earned last year,

you earned nothing. You can't even be referenced ahead of Dylan Gabriel or Dishon Watson who

hasn't been on the field now. What in two years? He hasn't been on the field. I think nothing that

comes out of these guys mouth, generally speaking, particularly at an introductory press conference.

It's not by accident. It's not really nearly. I think he wanted to send a message to Shadour.

Them seven games you played, you and your people that think that you proved something and

established yourself in a pecking order. I think he's saying, no, you didn't.

I think that's fair. But again, blank canvas Jason, no matter where I am, initially, I get to

dictate moving forward who I am. I'm not coming in now as the fifth pick selected behind Dylan

Gabriel. I'm not coming in now on a team that just signed Kenny picking in the all season

and then when it got Joe Flacco, I'm in the building when this new regime gets here. It's up to me.

And as a fifth round pick going in the year two, you couldn't ask for a better opportunity.

It does not happen that often in the National Football League.

I think you're right. And again, Dion and the Dion people that Shadour sexuals, Dion

sexuals are going to hate me for this. But I do, I just read in between the lines. If Shadour

had been super ex, oh, Travis switches our new off into coordinator, let me run to Cleveland or

let me go meet with him. Let me go connect with him as soon as possible before the press conference.

Show up at the press. I don't know. I think the guy might have said something different because when

they got the new head coach, Shadour made sure to get himself on film or the Browns made sure

to get Shadour on film meeting Todd Munkin, nothing here. And I'm just, I don't think Shadour has

learned a lesson. His mentality should be super humble and super. Let me kiss butt with the new

coaching staff and let me show everybody I want to put in more work than anybody else.

I think this guy the way he just unpacked that is an indication that he hasn't connected with Shadour

at all. And we need to send Shadour another little message because I'm telling Dion and Shadour

think that those seven games prove that Shadour is a starting franchise level quarterback.

And the Browns are trying to tell Shadour very politely, no it didn't.

So one, I think that's unfair and two, I think that's biased. Our entire soliloquy that you just

gave, I think, is to defend your position prior to this. But that's why I come on here because

sometimes when you are in the dark side, I got to bring you to the side that has the light.

You got to give the young man credit. Everything that we criticized him for,

leading into the National Football League draft that was last year. All over social media,

everything he was exposing, very little of it had to do with football. He's disappeared.

You have not heard of Pete from him. So for us to assume that that doesn't fall in line with

him being in the building, grinding every day, I think it's unfair, especially because the

OCE who has nothing to do with calling the place, because it's a top-munking's offense,

and top-munking is going to call the place to assume that Shadour hasn't bought him fully

with this new regime. My thing is extremely unfair, Jason.

Thank you. Because we've heard nothing to the contrary.

I think you've made a fair point. I'll go that far. Unlike last week where you made no points,

I think you made a fair point here. I'm not sure. Ryan Poles is not going to be at the forefront

of his The Rooney Rule. Good or bad. I'm standing on business. I'm going to have to agree that you

made a fair point. And I've got a couple of nine football things to discuss with you. So leave

some time at the end of this, too, because I was listening to you, Jay, and Steve, and see,

the truth doesn't have emotions. So we got to make sure the truth gets put out on fearless today

before my segment ends. Oh, go ahead. What do they got?

Because I'm much more than just a football analyst. I watch sports. I consume it at a high level.

If I am addicted to anything in America, it's the high level of competition that sports provides.

And you guys criticize, shake, you'll just Alexander's outfit. What you failed to mention, Jason,

this was the big bad nicks that it just would shed at the San Antonio Spurs. This was an ESPN

game that was consumable by all the miracle. You didn't have to have prime. You didn't have to have

peacock. You didn't have to like get off your regular cable apparatus and go find it on the app.

And he went in and put up 26 and 8 and hit the game with it. So when you go perform like that,

you can show up with whatever you want to show up. You got to give him credit. He showed it with an

outfit that I probably wouldn't wear. But he thought it was dope, but he performed

on the biggest stage in National Basketball Association, which is a prime time game in Madison

Square Garden. Fat Joe, all the celebrities, Spike Lee, everybody there. A next team that was

rolling had just obliterated WinBiana and the Spurs in the same venue. He showed up and showed

out. You got to give him credit for that. Sean, if you're going to look the part, be the part.

That's not looking the part and being the part. These are young guys. Jason, our our fashion

sense is in no way shape form of fashion tied into what is fashionable now for this new generation

of people in this world. They wear stuff we wouldn't think about wearing. But in their age group,

this is looked at as fashionable. We just got to accept it. We can't be the old man on the porch

that criticizes people everywhere. But that's fashionable to them. Jay, it is.

Oh, let's get the peanut gallery and and just that I'm going to start with you here is just

is Justin Mike ready is he needs to hop on the zone. I'm you know, and I'm sorry, we're going

we're going to give Justin a little black privilege here and let him go first. Okay, you know,

these guys, they're all in their 20s. These guys, they're fearless. Yeah, these guys are in their

20s. Okay. Is is that fashionable, Justin, what what shape wore last night or is that a

distraught? I mean, I wouldn't wear it really to be honest. I mean, but I'm close to the 30.

Shea's younger than me. It's a little fruity to me, but you know, teach their own.

Fruity's cold word for zesty. It's a little zesty and I know this man, but what's zesty about it?

Like I just think it looks uncomfortable. Like it's too much fur around the neck and mouth area.

Like I feel like a bigger guy like myself. Like that make me hot. I'd be uncomfortable. Like I

want to. Have you ever heard the term attention or

usually they talk it's a word usually used with women. That's what makes it zesty. That's what makes

it fruity. These guys are all about attention and they want the wrong kind of attention.

The man played a great game last night, but people want to talk about his outfit more than his

game zesty. Well, when you play in Oklahoma City, shout out to them for being the defending NBA

champions. That's not a huge media market. So when you get an opportunity in New York City on

Broadway, it's a kind of differential self, differentiate yourself from some of these other stars

that are having big ears. I get it. And just in my question is, does the performance back up

wearing this outfit? I hear your point on that. Listen to your bad dude. He'll bad dude. He can wear

what he want. He's been doing that too. So, you know, I'm also not a man that criticized other

men for what they're wearing personally. That's just me. Oh, I do now. When you start looking like a

woman out there, like I got a big dollar with that. But to me, this is just like too much fur.

That was Justin take it. That was a sneak dish on me, Sean. Don't be offended. Justin might say

a little pot shots at me is sneak this. Sneak this popular thing to do in 2026. I don't know how

much you are consumed social media. Yeah. Luke. Luke is our resident metalhead slash rapper,

slash rap R&B. Don't you like rap music? I like rap. He likes rap. He's not a rapper, but you know,

I can never. I can never I can never predict what Luke thinks because, you know, he loves guns and

roses and he loves usher just the same. It's great. But anyway, Luke, your thoughts here on the

zesty fruity outfit? Well, it's to be expected from SGA, you know, and Luke's from OKC by the way.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's to be expected from SGA. I think the funniest thing about it is like

this video was posted by ESPN's NBA team and they like deliberately put the weather on the thing,

you know, they want to prove that it's 46 degrees. Like if you see Lamar Jackson before an NFL

game and like a crazy fit, they're not going to put the weather on that because this looks like

he's getting the fur. They're trying to prove a point, you know. Yeah, they took a shot. Good for ESPN.

Peyton, I think I know where he stands on this, but who knows Peyton, what do you think? Well,

I mean, don't these guys want to be taken seriously? Like you talk about his game and need a great

game and great. Awesome. But, you know, one, I didn't watch it because no one watches ESPN's NBA

product, but he had a great game and he shows up wearing that and he wears whatever that's the

story. So that takes away from all of it, I think. Yeah. Would we be talking about the game as Peyton

just so eloquently said, no one watches the NBA at this point in the season if he had not

wore that outfit, would I be talking about this part of the reason why no one watches, I don't think.

Yes. Players are unlikeable. See, see, see, see you three guys, what's his Justin, Peyton,

and what's Luke? Luke. Yeah. Listen, association breeds assimilation, right? Whatever environment

you hang around, you take on the characteristics and attributes that environment. So you guys got to

be careful hanging around this old version, the grumpy version of Jason Whitlock because he's

starting to like having impact and effect on you three. You guys know these youngsters

fashion, completely different. I like it. Like when we grew up in the Michael Jordan era where

I put on a custom made soup and showed up in some $2,000 shoes and like looked apart.

Then it went to like the complete hip hop and then the the commission had to step in and create

a dress code and not have relaxes. So now all these guys think there's some fashion like

forward thinking like models basically. So like this is an uncommon in the NBA.

These extreme outfits, like I don't know if you guys watched Lamello Ball and some of these other

guys. Oh, yeah, I'm very much aware. That's what I don't like. And when I look out on the court

and I can't tell whether 30% of these guys are WNBA players or NBA players because of their

hair styles, that's just I just can't do it. I just. But Jason, it's like I love rap.

But I can never get into the little era. Well, the little baby, the little yoddy or a little