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About this Episode
It's finally here. The one I've been talking about. The deconstructions of Astrology. From its origins, history, its various forms in other cultures, the truth about the so-called Ages, the precession of the equinox, and even the real deal concerning Mercury in retrograde. Are you ready to travel up that black hole, far beyond the mainstream? Let's do it!
Cheers, and Blessings
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Show Notes
"What contagion can reach us from a distance almost infinite?"
Cicero on Astrology
12 signs astrology doesn't work
12 Reasons We Know Astrology Doesn't Work
https://youtu.be/d2l9XiGRUTE
Astrology Debunked
https://youtu.be/y84HX2pMo5U
Astrology Debunked
https://youtu.be/K0UyXCoDU7Y
Why astrology isn't real science
https://youtu.be/VZ2eMUmumw0
Great Source!
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/astrology.html
Astrology, or Starstruck?
https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/12/16/1266452.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience
Why believing in astrology is not as harmless as you think
https://gizmodo.com/why-believing-in-astrology-is-not-as-harmless-as-you-th-1595802206
Horoscope Scams
https://youtu.be/0mK0gzaBbQ0
Astro physicist debunks astrology
(She's obnoxious though)
https://youtu.be/JAiW9lx4U58
Debunking astrology and establishing its place as a pseudoscience
https://tayknoble.medium.com/the-danger-of-horoscopes-ccb651643f6b
Debunking Astrology – The Planets Just Aren’t That Into You
https://ascienceenthusiast.com/the-planets-are-not-that-much-into-you/
Originally there were 17-18 Zodiac Signs•
Egyptian Astrology did not create the classical zodiac signs. The Babylonians created some of them and the Egyptians learned about them from the Greeks.
The Egyptians put their own spin on the astrological signs by naming them after their gods, save one named after the River Nile. The Egyptians took into account 36 small groups of constellations called "decans," which influence the date periods assigned to each sign. For this reason, Egyptian signs span several short periods that fall throughout the year.
Shape.com
"The ancient Mayans, Aztecs and Incans from South America developed complex astrological systems that were based on a zodiac of 20 different signs. These signs were inspired by a mix of both animals and natural phenomenon. The jaguar, ape, dog and turtle appeared in these systems as did the rain and the earthquake."
The Greeks were introduced to the ancient Babylonian horoscope during Alexander the Great’s conquest of Asia. Though the calendar and astrological system began to be translated from Babylonian cuneiform to Greek around this time, astrology did not take root in ancient Greece until well after Alexander the Great’s death.
Read more:
https://www.beliefnet.com/inspiration/astrology/the-haunting-history-of-horoscopes.aspx
The idea of the zodiac is ancient and has roots tied back to the early cultures of Mesopotamia. The first 12 signs were named after the Gods of these cultures with the Greeks adopting astrology from the Babylonians and the Romans. They renamed the signs of the Mesopotamian zodiac according to the mythologies of their own culture. This is why our familiar zodiac of the contemporary West has names related to the Mediterranean mythology.
The African Zodiac
13 Signs of the Zodiac - Don Jaide.
The original calendar had 13 months, 13 months of the Zodiac. Ethiopia is the only country still using the original calendar of 13 months. The Roma Catholic Church changed all that to 12 with the introduction of the Gregorian Calendar, the fake calendar that we use today.
Different Signs, & Numbers in other cultures•
The Celts correlated the date of birth to one of thirteen types of trees. They used thirteen rather than twelve since they subscribed to a lunar calendar system and therefore followed the thirteen phases of the moon.
The Chinese zodiac is based on the year you were born and uses twelve animal signs: rat, ox, tiger, rabbit, dragon, snake, horse, goat, monkey, rooster, dog, and pig. But it doesn’t stop there: They rotate between yin and yang and have five elements: (earth, metal, water, wood, and fire). These combinations can be more detailed such that a person can be a yin water rabbit, yang metal rabbit, a yin fire rabbit, etc. The entire Chinese zodiac cycle takes sixty years to complete.
The Egyptians
Their astrology is comprised of twelve constellations that form thirty-six decans (star groups). Each decan has its own ruling planet and lasts for 10 days.
Each sign is based on gods and goddesses from ancient Egyptian mythos such as Amon-Ra, Anubis, Horus and Osiris among others.
American Indian, Hindu.....
14 different types of horoscopes:
https://themagichoroscope.com/zodiac/types-horoscope
When did the corporati newspapers first begin putting horoscopes in?
The Sunday Express published the world’s first newspaper horoscopes and a phenomenon was born. "Little did we know it at the time but we had hit upon an essential ingredient of today’s popular press, the star-sign horoscope,” the Sunday Express’s current editor Martin Townsend observes. Following the 1929 Wall Street Crash, the Princess’s birth gave Britain’s popular press the perfect opportunity for a “good news story”. Being a weekly newspaper though, the Sunday Express needed a new angle and, in a eureka moment, its then editor John Gordon had the inspirational idea of publishing a horoscope foretelling the young royal’s future.
The paper first approached the colourful Cheiro, the undisputed superstar astrologer of the age. Born plain William Warner, he had learned his craft on a trip to India before reinventing himself as Cheiro (the name derives from the word cheiromancy, meaning palmistry).
He was to become the most famous astrologer of the era, reading the palms and telling the fortunes of everyone from Oscar Wilde to the Prince of Wales (the future Edward VII) and General Kitchener to prime minister William Gladstone. However, Cheiro was unavailable so the job of drawing up the world’s first newspaper horoscope went to one of his assistants, Richard Harold Naylor, or R.H. Naylor as he preferred to be known. The result was a Sunday Express article headlined “What The Stars Foretell For The New Princess”. (Princess Margaret)
So on August 24, 1930...
Express Newspaper
Astrology, & The Barnum Effect
https://productiveclub.com/barnum-effect/
The Barnum Effect
https://youtu.be/NBXRzdzFnHk
Why we believe our horoscopes
https://neurofied.com/barnum-effect-the-reason-why-we-believe-our-horoscopes/
A Pro Astrologer Realizes It Isn't Real
https://bogardiner.wordpress.com/2015/03/08/a-professional-astrologist-realizes-astrology-isnt-real/
Why astrology is BS
https://astrologersushilsharma.com/faq/readers-ask-why-astrology-is-bs/
Extra Links
https://clarkchronicle.com/features/2017/11/13/why-horoscopes-are-not-supported-by-science/
https://www.knowseeker.com/2019/05/why-you-should-not-believe-in-horoscopes.html?
https://www.collegemagazine.com/why-horoscopes-are-stupid/
https://www.ladbible.com/more/interesting-star-signs-are-bullshit-this-proves-it-fuck-you-20160917
Because of the precession of the equinoxes, the equinox and solstice points have each moved westward about 30 degrees in the last 2,000 years. Thus, the zodiacal constellations named in ancient times no longer correspond to the segments of the zodiac represented by their signs. In short, had you been born at the same time on the same day of the year 2,000 years ago, you would have been born under a different sign.[3]
https://www.wikihow.com/Argue-That-Astrology-is-Fake
Astrology doesn't work, so why do so many still believe it?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/27/astrology-doesnt-work-so-why-do-so-many-still-believe-it-10624778/
This is what really happens when a planet is in retrograde
https://gizmodo.com/sorry-astrologers-this-is-what-it-really-means-when-5988398
“Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.”
James 4:14
"Boast not thyself of tomorrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth."
Proverbs 27:1
For men of different inclinations are though born perhaps beneath one common star
in minds and manners twins opposed we see
in the same sign almost the same degree.
Persius
ACR-
My Podcasting Family Visit the home of The Oddcast at "Alternate Current Radio, and check out all their other great shows including, Boiler Room, and be sure to subscribe to their Social Media to get updates on all the fantastic talk, and music shows.
https://alternatecurrentradio.com/
Check out the ACR video:
"Shilling For Sanity"
https://youtu.be/TyQv1JL78Eg
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"A special Thank You to my Patrons who contributed to this episode. You are very much appreciated."
Their Order Is Not Our Order!
Cheers, and Blessings
Odd Man Out Patreon
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Show Notes
"What contagion can reach us from a distance almost infinite?"
Cicero on Astrology
12 signs astrology doesn't work
12 Reasons We Know Astrology Doesn't Work
https://youtu.be/d2l9XiGRUTE
Astrology Debunked
https://youtu.be/y84HX2pMo5U
Astrology Debunked
https://youtu.be/K0UyXCoDU7Y
Why astrology isn't real science
https://youtu.be/VZ2eMUmumw0
Great Source!
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/astrology.html
Astrology, or Starstruck?
https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/12/16/1266452.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience
Why believing in astrology is not as harmless as you think
https://gizmodo.com/why-believing-in-astrology-is-not-as-harmless-as-you-th-1595802206
Horoscope Scams
https://youtu.be/0mK0gzaBbQ0
Astro physicist debunks astrology
(She's obnoxious though)
https://youtu.be/JAiW9lx4U58
Debunking astrology and establishing its place as a pseudoscience
https://tayknoble.medium.com/the-danger-of-horoscopes-ccb651643f6b
Debunking Astrology – The Planets Just Aren’t That Into You
https://ascienceenthusiast.com/the-planets-are-not-that-much-into-you/
Originally there were 17-18 Zodiac Signs•
Egyptian Astrology did not create the classical zodiac signs. The Babylonians created some of them and the Egyptians learned about them from the Greeks.
The Egyptians put their own spin on the astrological signs by naming them after their gods, save one named after the River Nile. The Egyptians took into account 36 small groups of constellations called "decans," which influence the date periods assigned to each sign. For this reason, Egyptian signs span several short periods that fall throughout the year.
Shape.com
"The ancient Mayans, Aztecs and Incans from South America developed complex astrological systems that were based on a zodiac of 20 different signs. These signs were inspired by a mix of both animals and natural phenomenon. The jaguar, ape, dog and turtle appeared in these systems as did the rain and the earthquake."
The Greeks were introduced to the ancient Babylonian horoscope during Alexander the Great’s conquest of Asia. Though the calendar and astrological system began to be translated from Babylonian cuneiform to Greek around this time, astrology did not take root in ancient Greece until well after Alexander the Great’s death.
Read more:
https://www.beliefnet.com/inspiration/astrology/the-haunting-history-of-horoscopes.aspx
The idea of the zodiac is ancient and has roots tied back to the early cultures of Mesopotamia. The first 12 signs were named after the Gods of these cultures with the Greeks adopting astrology from the Babylonians and the Romans. They renamed the signs of the Mesopotamian zodiac according to the mythologies of their own culture. This is why our familiar zodiac of the contemporary West has names related to the Mediterranean mythology.
The African Zodiac
13 Signs of the Zodiac - Don Jaide.
The original calendar had 13 months, 13 months of the Zodiac. Ethiopia is the only country still using the original calendar of 13 months. The Roma Catholic Church changed all that to 12 with the introduction of the Gregorian Calendar, the fake calendar that we use today.
Different Signs, & Numbers in other cultures•
The Celts correlated the date of birth to one of thirteen types of trees. They used thirteen rather than twelve since they subscribed to a lunar calendar system and therefore followed the thirteen phases of the moon.
The Chinese zodiac is based on the year you were born and uses twelve animal signs: rat, ox, tiger, rabbit, dragon, snake, horse, goat, monkey, rooster, dog, and pig. But it doesn’t stop there: They rotate between yin and yang and have five elements: (earth, metal, water, wood, and fire). These combinations can be more detailed such that a person can be a yin water rabbit, yang metal rabbit, a yin fire rabbit, etc. The entire Chinese zodiac cycle takes sixty years to complete.
The Egyptians
Their astrology is comprised of twelve constellations that form thirty-six decans (star groups). Each decan has its own ruling planet and lasts for 10 days.
Each sign is based on gods and goddesses from ancient Egyptian mythos such as Amon-Ra, Anubis, Horus and Osiris among others.
American Indian, Hindu.....
14 different types of horoscopes:
https://themagichoroscope.com/zodiac/types-horoscope
When did the corporati newspapers first begin putting horoscopes in?
The Sunday Express published the world’s first newspaper horoscopes and a phenomenon was born. "Little did we know it at the time but we had hit upon an essential ingredient of today’s popular press, the star-sign horoscope,” the Sunday Express’s current editor Martin Townsend observes. Following the 1929 Wall Street Crash, the Princess’s birth gave Britain’s popular press the perfect opportunity for a “good news story”. Being a weekly newspaper though, the Sunday Express needed a new angle and, in a eureka moment, its then editor John Gordon had the inspirational idea of publishing a horoscope foretelling the young royal’s future.
The paper first approached the colourful Cheiro, the undisputed superstar astrologer of the age. Born plain William Warner, he had learned his craft on a trip to India before reinventing himself as Cheiro (the name derives from the word cheiromancy, meaning palmistry).
He was to become the most famous astrologer of the era, reading the palms and telling the fortunes of everyone from Oscar Wilde to the Prince of Wales (the future Edward VII) and General Kitchener to prime minister William Gladstone. However, Cheiro was unavailable so the job of drawing up the world’s first newspaper horoscope went to one of his assistants, Richard Harold Naylor, or R.H. Naylor as he preferred to be known. The result was a Sunday Express article headlined “What The Stars Foretell For The New Princess”. (Princess Margaret)
So on August 24, 1930...
Express Newspaper
Astrology, & The Barnum Effect
https://productiveclub.com/barnum-effect/
The Barnum Effect
https://youtu.be/NBXRzdzFnHk
Why we believe our horoscopes
https://neurofied.com/barnum-effect-the-reason-why-we-believe-our-horoscopes/
A Pro Astrologer Realizes It Isn't Real
https://bogardiner.wordpress.com/2015/03/08/a-professional-astrologist-realizes-astrology-isnt-real/
Why astrology is BS
https://astrologersushilsharma.com/faq/readers-ask-why-astrology-is-bs/
Extra Links
https://clarkchronicle.com/features/2017/11/13/why-horoscopes-are-not-supported-by-science/
https://www.knowseeker.com/2019/05/why-you-should-not-believe-in-horoscopes.html?
https://www.collegemagazine.com/why-horoscopes-are-stupid/
https://www.ladbible.com/more/interesting-star-signs-are-bullshit-this-proves-it-fuck-you-20160917
Because of the precession of the equinoxes, the equinox and solstice points have each moved westward about 30 degrees in the last 2,000 years. Thus, the zodiacal constellations named in ancient times no longer correspond to the segments of the zodiac represented by their signs. In short, had you been born at the same time on the same day of the year 2,000 years ago, you would have been born under a different sign.[3]
https://www.wikihow.com/Argue-That-Astrology-is-Fake
Astrology doesn't work, so why do so many still believe it?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/27/astrology-doesnt-work-so-why-do-so-many-still-believe-it-10624778/
This is what really happens when a planet is in retrograde
https://gizmodo.com/sorry-astrologers-this-is-what-it-really-means-when-5988398
“Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.”
James 4:14
"Boast not thyself of tomorrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth."
Proverbs 27:1
For men of different inclinations are though born perhaps beneath one common star
in minds and manners twins opposed we see
in the same sign almost the same degree.
Persius
ACR-
My Podcasting Family Visit the home of The Oddcast at "Alternate Current Radio, and check out all their other great shows including, Boiler Room, and be sure to subscribe to their Social Media to get updates on all the fantastic talk, and music shows.
https://alternatecurrentradio.com/
Check out the ACR video:
"Shilling For Sanity"
https://youtu.be/TyQv1JL78Eg
Support the show by subscribing, liking, sharing, & donating!
Fringe Radio Network
FRINGE RADIO NETWORK! -SECURE- Radio on the Fringe!
Patreon-Welcome to The Society Of Cryptic Savants
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Social Media: _theoddmanout on Twitter, and Instagram
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"A special Thank You to my Patrons who contributed to this episode. You are very much appreciated."
Their Order Is Not Our Order!
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