Ep. 1927 - Muslims Try To BOMB Conservatives In New York

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Muslims throw IEDs at conservative protesters in New York.

Iran selects a new Iatola as even Lindsey Graham says the Israelis are going

too far in their attacks.

And David French takes to the pages of the New York Times to make the conservative

case for the anti Christ.

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I'll tell you the story, but then I really want to get to the headline.

The story is that a couple of Muslims threw bombs, I-E-D's,

improvised explosive devices, containers filled with nails and screws and metal and shards

that explode and main people.

It's like the main thing that injured and killed our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq.

We now have them on the streets of New York.

Muslims threw them into a crowd of conservatives who were protesting Mamdani.

That's the story.

Here's the headline.

This is from NBC News, yeah, NBC New York.

Two people in custody after suspicious devices ignited outside New York City Mayor's official residence.

These people, you just can't...

Even I and I have such a low opinion of the establishment media, even I feel some degree of shock.

Even I still have the capacity for indignation reading that headline.

What is the image that you have when you hear that headline?

Two people, just two people.

I'm not going to say what kind of people, just two people in custody after suspicious devices ignited.

That's a New York City Mayor's official residence.

That sounds like this was right wingers throwing bombs at the mayor, the mayor who's a Muslim communist.

In fact, the story is the exact opposite.

Then you get to the subheader.

After an anti-Islam protestor fired pepper spray at counter protestors,

one of the counter protestors lit and threw an ignited device toward the protest area.

So they can't even in the subheader get to the actual story, the actual story being that these

Muslims, they don't even say they're Muslims, but they are, that these Muslims threw bombs at

conservatives. They have to start out by justifying the Muslims throwing the bomb at the conservative.

They have to start out by saying, well, you know, after these conservatives were totally asking for

it because the conservatives were gathered outside the mayor's house and one of them fired pepper

spray at the counter protestors, gee, I wonder why? I wonder if the counter protestors were doing

anything that might have warranted self-defense and the pepper spray. But even there,

they just say, well, look, they started, the conservatives started, it's their fault.

They fired pepper spray at the counter protestors. And then one of the counter protestors

lit and threw an ignited device, the way that this is written, it makes it seem as though the poor

Muslim was just minding his own business. And then these conservatives jumped out from behind

a bush, sprayed pepper spray at him. And then just spontaneously, the Muslim guy reaching for

anything he could, luckily found an improvised explosive device to use in self-defense against

the conservatives. Well, you know, look, after these conservatives started this thing, the Muslims

threw the bomb that they had in their pocket. Wait, why the, why the guy have a bomb? Why did the

guy, why did two guys actually, why did they have an improvised explosive device? Sort of seems

like they're throwing the bomb was not prompted by pepper spray. Why did these guys use pepper spray?

Well, first of all, who had the official protest? The protest was the conservatives. The

right wingers were holding a protest protesting the New York City Mayor. Then some mob shows up to

harass the protesters. And then these two guys throw a bomb. Okay, what are the key details?

According to ABC 7, so that was NBC New York. Here's ABC 7 in New York. Two teenagers from

Pennsylvania are likely to face serious federal charges after bringing real improvised explosive

devices to Gracie Mansion. Two teenagers, how old are they? They're 19. They're 19. They're adults.

They're adults who will be tried as adults because they're adults. Two teenagers, it makes it sound

like they're 14 or something. Two teenagers from Pennsylvania. My grandparents are from Pennsylvania.

You know, there's a lot of, there are a lot of noses up around Pennsylvania.

When you close your eyes and you imagine teenagers from Pennsylvania, what do you, what do you picture?

I picture a couple of 14-year-olds riding their bike in the outskirts of Scranton,

maybe, you know, dirty blonde hair. You know, nice, I don't know, Philadelphia Eagles shirt. I don't know

where they are. Americana. Well, actually, it was a couple of 19-year-olds named Amir Balad and

Ibrahim Kayumi. Those sound like Pennsylvania's to you. Not really. Not saying people with

Middle Eastern names can't live in Pennsylvania. But the phrase, two teenagers from Pennsylvania is

designed. It is designed to do the opposite of journalism. I don't mean to belabor the point,

but it's very, very important when you're reading news coverage to realize what these people are doing.

You know a thing by what it is for. The purpose of something tells you about the nature of that thing.

Journalism, news reporting, is for telling you the truth about current events. It's for

conveying the reality of what's going on to you. These people, NBC local, ABC local,

they are doing the exact opposite. Their entire reporting is designed to hide the truth.

Their entire reporting is designed to give you an image of what happened that is contrary to what

actually happened. It all started around noon on Saturday when a far right group of about 20 protesters

were met by roughly 125 counter protesters. A far right group. It was a far right group. It was

this group of conservatives who were objecting to the Islamification of New York. New York,

which was the site of the worst Islamic terror attack in modern history. It doesn't seem far

right. That doesn't seem crazy. I'm a New Yorker. I was in New York before, during and after 9-11.

Plenty of normal people had a healthy, fear and aversion to Islam, fear of and aversion to Islam.

That doesn't make you far right, especially if you're a New Yorker. So there's 20 of these guys

protesting the mayor. Then a mob of 125 counter protesters show up. Tensions quickly escalated

and violence broke out. Oh, just broke out. The violence just jumped out from behind a building.

Oh, no. We had two groups here who were getting a long fine and then that violence showed up.

Who brought the violence? Who do you think? Two teens identified as Amir Balat and Ibrahim Qayumi,

noted Pennsylvania's 19 or accused of throwing and igniting two objects, one of which was confirmed

to be a bomb. Okay. Enough on the media. You get the point.

This is every news story. This is every news story. In the fact that in the past year,

we have had even the liberal outlets confirm that terrorism in America today is chiefly a left-wing

problem. Obviously, there's been an Islam association with terrorism for a very, very long time.

The fact that they are beginning to admit that explicitly means the problem is much, much worse.

Much, much worse than even you think it is.

The fact that the left and the left has an alliance with the Islamists because they have a common

enemy, multiple common enemies, but America, the church, men, I don't know. They have a common enemy,

like regular Western men, they have a common enemy and so they get together.

The left very nearly assassinated President Trump last year and you're in a half ago.

The left successfully assassinated Charlie Kirk six months ago.

Actual individual leftists did these things and then large swaths of the rest of the left,

including the mainstream left, cheered it on.

Now, we have Muslims with counter protesters who presumably included ordinary run-of-the-mill

leftists. I don't think it was all a mere ballots in Ibrahim Qayumi's showing up and throwing bombs

at conservatives in New York. This is very bad, it's going to get worse. What do we do about it?

There is something we can do about it. This happened almost exactly 100 years ago.

In the 1920s, in New York, you had this spate of bombings, anarchists, left wing anarchists,

who were usually immigrants, who were not citizens, a lot of them, came over here and started

setting off bombs. Exactly what's going on here. It wasn't Muslims then, but you still had

anarchists from Europe setting off bombs. What did we do? We rounded them all up and we deported

them. These were the Palmer raids. We rounded up the anarchists and the communists and the radical

leftists, the people who were setting off bombs, the people who were creating this exact kind of

disorder. We just rounded them up and deported them. There is a legal predicate for this in the United

States. There is historical precedent for this in the United States. It seems to me we've heard

this song before. It's from an old familiar score. We can just get rid of these people. We can just

send them out of the country and make them some other countries problem. But we have to do that.

In the 1920s and 30s, there could have been an anarchist communist revolution in America.

Communists were trying to do that. There were successful communist revolutions in the rest of the

world and we stopped it. We put a lid on it. We rounded these people up. We arrested them. We got

rid of them. We got them out of the country. We need to do the same thing now because the political

violence is growing much, much worse. It's coming from lots of different angles. The radical leftists,

the anarchists, the Islamists, all kind of working together. They all seem to be, you know,

find their common identity in Mamdani. Mamdani really checks a lot of boxes.

But it's happening in Mamdani's New York. It's happening throughout the United States,

coming to a county near you. This would seem to call for the federal government to get involved.

We did it before and do it again. If anyone's going to do it, it's this administration. Now,

speaking of violence, we got to get to Iran, luck going on in Iran. There's a new Ayatollah,

new Ayatollah, basically the same as the old Ayatollah.

Bomings heating up, oil hitting $110, $111 a barrel over the weekend. Now, it's come down a little

bit, but still creates a lot of problems for President Trump and for the global economy.

Israel reportedly getting so out of hand in its campaigns, no longer coordinating perfectly

with the United States. It's gotten so bad that Lindsey Graham is calling for Israel to tone it down.

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in your Middle East bombing campaign when Lindsey Graham tells you to cool you jets.

Lindsey Graham, who I like personally, he's never seen a Middle Eastern country in one bomb.

He's been beating the drum for war for a very, very long time and so it actually gives a lot of

credibility to his criticism here. He tweets out, our allies in Israel have shown amazing

capability when it comes to collapsing the murderous regime in Iran. America is most appreciative.

You can just sense that there's a but coming. Here it is. However, there will be a day soon that

the Iranian people will be in charge of their own fate, not the murderous Ayatollah's regime.

In that regard, please be cautious about what targets you select. Our goal is to liberate the

Iranian people in a fashion that does not cripple their chance to start a new and better life

when this regime collapses. The oil economy of Iran will be essential to that endeavor.

Now, the color on this comes from Axios, which says Israel strikes on 30 Iranian fuel depots

Saturday, went far beyond what the U.S. expected when Israel notified it in advance, sparking the

first significant disagreement between the allies since the war began eight days ago, according to

U.S. official, Israeli official and a source with knowledge. Now, always when the U.S. and Israel

or any two allies are publicly disagreeing, there is the chance that it's just a show. It's a

fake out, but they actually agree behind the scenes. This one would suggest there is a legitimate

difference of opinion, maybe a little tail wagging the dog here. The fact that Lindsey Graham is

publicly rebuking Israel. He's a major, major supporter of Israel. He's a major, major, long time

supporter of regime change in Iran. He's not exactly shy about using the military. And he says,

guys, what are we doing here? The U.S. is worried that this could backfire strategically, according to

the reporting. And these are the stakes. These are the stakes of the war. This was my reaction, the

minute it happened. I've been totally consistent about this the whole time that the talk of war in

Iran has been floating around. There are two very firm camps who are making moralistic arguments

that I think are silly. On the one hand, you have the pacifists, the people who say, you know, war

is never the answer. There's no place for war, no war is just what we should never go to war.

That is not a serious position. It's not a serious moral position. It's not a serious political

position. Write that one out. Then there are the hardcore ideological neo-con types, the liberal

interventionist types, the ones who say we've reached the end of history and we need to spread

our form of liberal democracy everywhere on earth. We have a moral imperative to do it by golly.

Women in some of these countries are not even allowed to get postgraduate degrees in deconstruction

and postmodernism. You know, by golly, it's outrageous. Send in the B2s. We need to spread

late 20th century liberalism all around the world. A very ideological moralist if you get rid of that

one. Then there's the people in the middle where reasonable minds can disagree over the wisdom of

the Iran campaign. That's where certainly where President Trump is, certainly where I am.

That's where I think most people are. I was talking in the lead up to the Iran war when it became

pretty clear that this was going to happen. I was asking people who were in the know grand

strategy types diplomats. What do you think about this? Should we go to war in Iran? Should we not

go to war in Iran? The most persuasive answer I heard was, well, if you could do it quickly and

successfully, then it would be good to change the regime out. But if you can, you shouldn't.

And so I've said from the beginning, if I were on the NSC, not that anyone invited me, but if I had

been on the NSC, I would have made all the arguments I could have against the Iran strike,

not based on any particular moral argument. I think there's legal justification to go into Iran.

I would have made arguments against it because I would have said just with publicly available

knowledge, again, government had more knowledge than I did on this. But I would have said, well, look,

I don't know that the threat from Iran is as grave as people are suggesting or as imminent.

And two, I'm not confident that we can efficiently and effectively swap out the regime in Iran

to get a more Western friendly regime. So because of those practical,

prudential, pragmatic matters, I don't know that it's the right idea. But if you could convince me,

otherwise, on those two points, then I would say, yeah, probably is a good idea.

And these are the stakes here. President Trump taking a much more realistic view. And this comes

right out of his national security strategy, which was released last November. President Trump clearly

believes that he's the guy to do it, that he can do it. He has a great confidence in himself

and in his foreign policy and in the people that he's empowered to efficiently get rid of the

Iranian regime to build up a regime there that will be more pro-Western, same sort of thing he

did in Venezuela that won't have global fallout, that will rebuff our enemies like China and Russia,

and that will make America great again, that will help us on the world stage and give us a chance

after decades of decline in the American Empire, we'll give us a chance to be great again.

He thinks he's the guy who can do that. And maybe he is. He's got a pretty good record.

Here are the distinction between him and say the George W. Bush when it comes to foreign policy

is Bush wasn't that good at it and I am good at it. That would be the argument.

But in order for that to work, things need to go perfectly. That's a really, really tall order

in the best circumstances. And in order for that to work, we need to not turn the Iranian people

against us. We need to keep public sentiment against the Islamic regime and at least tolerating

us, if not openly supportive of the United States, grateful for our mission. And we need to make

sure the country doesn't get completely destabilized, which means that sometimes we need to reign in

Israel, just like we'd have to reign in any other ally that got a little out of control.

That's the point Lindsey Graham is making. That's the point it seems the White House is making

with the leak to Axios. Those are the stakes. If you're wrong, I've had to explain this to some

of my friends who are deeply, deeply skeptical of the war on Iran, who are quasi-isolationists.

I said, no, if this works, this is the greatest foreign policy achievement of any president since

the end of the Cold War. And it's one of the greatest foreign policy achievements. If you take the

end of the Cold War out of it, of the last 100 years, last 80 years. But if this goes south,

Trump's legacy will look like George Bush's. Those are the stakes here.

Stakes so high that you can get Lindsey Graham counter signaling bombing Iran and counter signaling

Israel. Shojiah had the stakes are. Okay. Now speaking of,

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We got a frame it. This is it.

It started with the principled conservative case for not voting for the Republican in 2016.

Okay. There were some people who did that. They didn't want to vote for Trump. They were worried

about him. Okay, whatever. The principled conservative case to oppose conservative judicial nominees.

The principled conservative case to vote for Kamala. Wait, what? The principled conservative case

for Joe Biden, huh? The principled, now we have it. The principled conservative case for James

Talleriko. We've been covering them on the show almost every day. I know I'm breaking my own rule

because I said we got to save some James Talleriko clips for closer to the election. Is the Democrat,

Senate nominee in Texas. He embraces radical transgender ideology, mass abortion. But he does so

with a slick, serpentine smile and the language of Christianity, albeit twisted to satanic purposes.

And here we have David French, essentially endorsing James Talleriko.

Headline, James Talleriko is a Christian X-ray. Christian X-rays telling, he really shows Christianity.

One, he shows real Christianity in his comportment, but two, he shows these pseudo Christians,

these MAGA Christians for the hateful hypocrites they really are. James Talleriko is a Christian X-ray.

Now right off the bat, I want to be very fair and charitable to David in the spirit of true Christianity,

which is what we're apparently debating here. James Talleriko is an X-ray in the sense that prolonged

exposure to him could be fatal. In that way, that's the one I got to give him credit. Other than that,

doesn't make a lot of sense. What does David write? So the the part that he breaks out in his tweet,

this is from the column. If the primary American divide is between right and left, then Talleriko

isn't that interesting. There's a long history of progressive religious activism in the United

States, just as there's a long history of conservative religious activism. Okay, that's true.

Yet if the primary American divide is between decent and indecent, then the equation changes.

Talleriko shines. Talleriko shines. Talleriko, I'll just remind you, supports the wholesale slaughter

of infants like King Herod. Talleriko further has the audacity to claim in public on film that the

Bible prescribes abortion. Not proscribes, not forbids it. He doesn't make the observation that

Christianity from the very, very beginning, from the earliest documents we have from the

apostolic age, prohibits abortion, and the church has been unwavering, consistent in her

prohibition of abortion. No, no. He says the Bible actually tells you to do it.

James Talleriko, who says that God is LGBTQ element OP. God is non-binary. James Talleriko,

who cites the heretical, nostic pseudo-gospel of Thomas from the third century

to make the claim that women need penises to go to heaven. I kid you not,

that women need to be trans to go to heaven. He made that claim on camera, citing a heretical

nostic text that he further claimed was taken out of the Bible and absurdity because it was never

in the Bible because it's not Christian. That's the decent Christian to David French in the New

York Times. It's a really decent guy. You know, it's like if you don't, which you don't understand is,

what you don't understand, you hateful MAGA hypocrite Christian, is you can call for mass

infanticide mutilating little children, castrating them, and you can blaspheme God in the most

egregious of ways as long as you do it with a smile and you oppose Donald Trump. That makes you a

decent person. So argues, David French, but just all those things that we've seen from Talleriko

and there are many, many more clips that go around. He says it with a smile. He says it with a smile,

he cites the Bible during this time of Lent where we meditate on the devil's temptation of Christ

and the wilderness for 40 days. We're reminded that, you know, the devil's pretty good at citing

scripture. We're very good at it, actually. Twisting scripture to perverse and satanic ends.

All those things that Talleriko has done that David French is so impressed by. Let me ask you,

does Talleriko sound more to you like Christ or like the Antichrist?

I'm not calling James Talleriko the Antichrist. He's not impressive enough to be the Antichrist.

But who does he sound more like? Does he sound more like Christ or does he sound more like the Antichrist?

David French effectively making the conservative case for the Antichrist. Where is there's an

amazing line in here? Yes, here it is. From the last paragraph, the significance of the Talleriko

moment, not the old news that a Christian can be progressive. Not really, but some people say

there. Anyway, that's a conversation for another time. Not the old news that Christian can be

progressive, but rather that Christian politicians can actually act like Christians. Kindness still

has a place in the public square, even if it doesn't always seem that way. Kindness, the kindness

to slaughter infants, the kindness to castrate little kids. Kindness, you know, he's a real Christian.

That's the whole argument. It says that I think multiple times in here. He's a real Christian. He

acts like a Christian. Kindness, you know, liberals, they love this kindness. They don't actually

love kindness, but they love that word kindness. You ever notice they have all these kinds of

signs be kind. I love kind people be, you know, in a world where you can be anything be kind,

because it's like one of these slogans that was going around for a while. The church, the church

of kindness, slaughter babies all you want and brace radical sexual ideologies, blaspheme God,

but just, you know, do it with a condescending smile. You know, do it with a, a simpering,

slick, oily condescending smile, and then you're my kind of person. Oh, and to post Trump,

you have to post Trump. I don't know where French goes from here. I feel for French,

because I've held my fire on French for a while. I've tried, you know, he and I have always

got along personally, but this is, where does it go from here? He's, he has reached the perfect

form of the thing he was doing that he's been building for 10 years. There is no place further

to go, just as the ending point of the sexual revolution of feminism and free love and gay rights,

the ending point was always going to be transiting the kids, because the logic of the sexual revolution

was that there's nothing that should constrain individual autonomy and men and women are basically

the same. That was the logic. And so it was going, the, the necessary logical conclusion of that is

you have autonomy even to change your own nature and a boy can be a girl. So it was always,

it was always going to get there uninterrupted. Same thing with French. We were always going to get

the conservative case for the anti-Christ, but where does the narrative go from here?

That's it. And that way, I guess we had, we owe James Talleriko a bit of gratitude. Maybe that's

the, that's the one thing that I like about him too. Okay. Speaking of blurring party lines,

great hit from Bill Maher. Great hit. Bill Maher had Adam Schiff on his show, Adam Schiff,

the insufferable Senator from California, led the impeachment against Trump,

uh, invading against Trump supposedly illegal war in Iran.

Bill Maher asked him to get a little bit more specific about his objections.

This statement from the administration, the president had the constitutional authority to

direct the use of military force because he could reasonably determine that such use of force

was in the national interest. That's too vague for you. Totally vague. Okay. Because that's from Obama,

that about Libya. Well, Obama made the argument initially that he could go into Syria without

an authorization. I and many others pushed back on that argument. Ultimately, he did not go forward

with going after Assad, even though Assad was gassing his own people, because he thought he might

lose the vote in Congress. But I respect the fact that, that, that was important to him,

and the fact that he did not have the support of Congress meant that we weren't going to go forward.

Schiff is fairly slick here, and because he, he tries not to visibly stumble, some people will

think that he gave a good, uh, answer to the question. However, if you listen carefully,

he did not answer the question. He did not respond to Bill Maher's point. Bill Maher says,

hey, here's a statement from the administration about the war, right, intentionally setting up Schiff,

and Schiff says, oh, it's totally vague. Totally vague. That's totally unacceptable. Yeah, well,

that was Obama talking about Libya, not Trump talking about Iran. And what does Schiff do? He says,

well, look, look, Obama wanted to go into Syria. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, slicky Schiff. What

are you doing? Hold on. The statement was about Libya. Bill Maher is asking you about Obama in

Libya. That's the comparison he's making. Why, why are you bringing Syria into this?

Because Schiff is able to say, and, you know, Obama ultimately did not seriously intervene in Syria,

and you let ISIS explode, but exploding growth, not explode like kaboom. He ultimately didn't

really go into Syria because he would have needed congressional authorization. Hold on, go back to

the Libya thing. Is the Libya thing totally blows up the Libs objections to Trump?

He says, I opposed Obama going into Syria. Yeah, maybe you did, maybe you didn't. I don't,

but I sure don't remember you opposing Obama going into Libya. Remember that? And how long did

Libya go on? Trump right now is conducting military operations in Iran. And everyone's debating

is this a war? Is this not a war? Is it an overseas contingency operation? Is this legal? Is it?

Whatever you want to call it? It's a war in plain language. Put it in whatever legally as you want.

Trump has the authority to do it unilaterally because of the War Powers Act of 1973,

which gives Trump the ability to conduct this operation for 60 days. And then he can unilaterally

extended by 50%. So he can go to 90 days, except that's not the whole story either. Because

not only did Barack Obama not seek congressional authorization for toppling the regime in Libya,

but the Libya operation went on for seven months. The president, according to the law,

has the right to do this for two months. And then he can extend it to three months. Obama more

than doubled that. Totally outside the confines of totally illegal. Let's call it what it is,

totally illegal. And shift didn't say boo about it. And the Democrats didn't say boo about it.

Trump has been conducting this much more effective military operation for one week. And already

they're calling to impeach him because of his supposedly illegal actions.

Proposterous. The thing you got to throw back in their face is Libya. And then when they try to

change a subject like shift did to Syria or whatever, you say, no, no, I want to talk about Libya.

How is it your object objecting to President Trump conducting an operation for one week,

well within the confines of the law, you didn't say boo when Obama blew way past the law

for seven months in Libya. Okay. Now, enough about Libya and Adam Schiff and Obama. We got to

get some updates on Iran. A lot more color coming out of the White House. First though, folks,

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Gill was on the show for friend Friday last episode and I've noticed this when I see not even in

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That's true. That's a good look for a politician. Okay. What's the update on Iran?

Lindsey Graham thinks the Israelis have gone too far. That's that's always a rough sign.

What does too far mean? Obviously, there's a lot of bombing of the oil facilities.

There's fire bombing all over Tehran. But there was also a rumor that the Kurds were going to go in

as a ground force and a lot of people a lot of people said, oh, this is going to be Iraq. This

is really Iraq 2.0. You've got a preemptive war justified in part on the threat of weapons of

mass destruction in the Middle East in a country that starts with the letters IRA. And now you're

arming the Kurds to fight the regime. This is deja vu all over again, isn't it? Well,

here's what the president says about the Kurds. So if Iranians are concerned that the Kurds will

carve out kind of an autonomous region as they did in Syria and Iraq, but we're not having. We're

not looking to the Kurds going in. We're very friendly with the Kurds as you know, but we don't

want to make the war any more complex than it already is. I don't want the Kurds going in.

I don't want to see the Kurds get hurt, get killed. We've had a good relation. They're willing to

go in, but we really, I've told them I don't want them to go in. Iran will look the same. The war's

complicated enough without having getting the Kurds involved. I don't want the Kurds to go in.

We don't want this war getting more complicated than it already is. Combine that statement with

what Steve Whitkoff said in front of Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth on Air Force One.

They bragged about having 60% enriched fuel enough for 11 bombs. They told me in Jared,

we're not going to give you diplomatically what you couldn't take militarily. So you know,

I think they're going to need a change of attitude. So Whitkoff was the negotiator on Iran,

with Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law. And he says, look, we were negotiating with them

and something that they did was they bragged about how much they had enriched their uranium.

And this was after the strikes on 4-0. They said, look, we're not going to give you

diplomatically what you were not able to take militarily. The strikes over the summer set back

the Iranian nuclear program, but it didn't, it didn't totally end it, certainly didn't end their

nuclear ambitions. So they say, look, you failed to totally destroy the program. You couldn't

take it militarily. Why would we just give it to you? You gave us your worst. Why would we give

why would we give this up now diplomatically? This in the telling of Steve Whitkoff right in front

of Trump, too, by the way. So Trump obviously has faith in Whitkoff. And that was the game of chicken.

In this telling of it, the Iranians played a game of chicken with Donald Trump.

It's a very bad idea to play a game of chicken with Trump. Look, maybe you'll win it every now and

again, but then sometimes your entire regime will be decapitated and missiles will rain down on

your country for weeks and weeks and weeks. You saw this in the first term. Sometimes Trump

he does nothing. Sometimes he drops the Moab. Sometimes Trump, he just lets it go,

lets it slide, lets it go. And then he kills your top general. And you don't know who you're

getting that day, which is a key part of the Trump foreign policy, the unpredictability.

Well, here, I think you take these two statements together. What does it tell you? It tells you

Trump wants to contain the fallout from the war. He felt that he had to act. He felt that he

had to act for a bunch of reasons. And people are making all the justifications for the war.

One, they've killed American troops over the years. They have. They've killed a lot of American

troops, two, they were pursuing a nuclear weapon. That's certainly true. They were definitely

pursuing a nuclear weapon. How close they were to it is a matter of debate, but they were definitely

pursuing a nuclear weapon. They fund terrorism around the region and around the world. That is

true. That's without question. They tried to kill Trump. We've arrested multiple people with ties to

Iran who tried to kill Trump. And the details of those are a little bit murky because the

actual Iranian instigator, the supposed Iranian instigator in the more serious assassination attempt,

that's Farhad Shaqari. He's still a large in Iran. It'd be a stronger case if we actually had him

in custody and couldn't interrogate him. But so far we just have a couple of guys in New York

who were supposedly approached by a guy from Iran to go kill Trump. Then we have a Pakistani

who has sort of has a tie to Iran who also tried to kill Trump. In any case, that would be one

justification for all the, but really if we're being serious here, I think we have to put those

things aside. What the Iran war is about, even with its legal predicate, is grand strategy.

It's about China. It's about Russia. It's about defending American hegemony, American interests

around the world and stopping America from heading into a terminal decline. That's really what it's

about. It's about making America great again, fixing a problem that has been festering for 47

years. We gave it 47 years of diplomacy. It didn't really work. Trump is going to solve it.

But he wants to do that instrumentally into making America greater. This is not about

getting women into postgraduate studies in Iran. This is not about bringing in NGOs to spread

the glories of feminism and liberalism. This is not about the end of history. This is not about

any of that. This is about the continuation of history. This is about Trump's clear stated

desire, the raison d'ethe of his entire political career, which is to make America great again.

That's what this is about. That's going to involve maybe reigning in the Israelis. If they're

being too harsh and they're undermining the effort to wrap this war up relatively quickly,

so Trump can move on to other things. It is simultaneously the impetus behind Trump going into

Iran and his desire to wrap this up quickly and to reign it in, down to not sending in the Kurds,

down to trying to preserve the oil fields and so forth. Speaking of Trump containing things,

I've been teasing the story now for two or three days. I want to get to it. Maybe I'll have to

get to it tomorrow because President Trump has just suggested putting Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court.

I wonder if it's not about more than the Supreme Court. Anyway, you don't have time to get to it

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