Ep 223 - Combating Ash Dieback w/Dr Richard Buggs from Kew Gardens

In this wonder-filled episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Wem speak with Dr Richard Buggs—geneticist at Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, and Queen Mary University London—about ash dieback, DNA sequencing, and the unseen resilience of trees. With clarity and warmth, Richard explains how genome research is unlocking crucial answers about pest resistance, why ash trees are evolving faster than expected, and how broadleaf diversity might just be the secret weapon in the fight against invasive fungi. From the naming of Betula buggsii to Darwin’s “abominable mystery,” this episode weaves together science, stewardship, and surprise. The conversation also highlights the vital role of biosecurity, the complex interplay between genetics and environment, and the hope offered by natural regeneration. It's a deeply grounding listen for educators, woodland stewards, and anyone curious about trees, time, and how we make sense of the mysteries still growing all around us.

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⏱ Chapter Timings:
00:00 – Introducing Dr Richard Buggs and his work at Kew and Queen Mary
03:24 – Naming a birch tree: Betula buggsii and the story behind it
06:06 – From weed science to ash genome sequencing
09:49 – How tree genomes are sequenced: glowing letters and supercomputers
14:12 – Ash trees, biodiversity, and co-evolution with fungi
15:59 – What ash dieback is and how it kills trees
18:30 – Why some ash trees survive and the role of natural regeneration
23:00 – Faster-than-expected evolution and what it reveals
28:00 – How DNA research helps where traditional trials cannot
35:05 – Darwin’s abominable mystery, flowering plants, and sacred questions

🌲 Keywords:
Ash dieback, forest pathogens, DNA sequencing, Richard Buggs, Kew Gardens, tree genomics, Darwin’s abominable mystery, tree evolution, natural regeneration, plant biosecurity, broadleaf trees, Forest School safety, invasive species, Victorian botany, sacred mystery, forest ecology

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