Ep. 2493 - Meta Just Paid $16.7 Billion for Harming Kids

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1:00when you order right in our show name in the how did you hear about a survey to let them know we say there is no safe like simply safe. I've said it before and I will say it again. If I could smash a big red button that made social media altogether disappeared tomorrow, I would do it at great cost to my own livelihood. I would do that because I care a lot more about my kids than I do about the clicks and the likes. I've also said it before and I'll say it again. Artificial intelligence is incredible. Overall, it is probably going to save the American economy. Now again, that may not be popular but it happens to be true. So here is the thing, technology is scary. Sometimes it's scary for a very good reason. And sometimes it's scary just because it's scary. But we have to tell the difference between the two because if we don't, will either destroy our own brains or we will destroy our entire economy. We'll get into all of that plus, Sally Parton's death, the Democrats continued defense of radical Islam and the latest from Lindsey Clancy Trial. This is the Ben Shapiro show. So again, technology is scary. And new technology is always scary because we're not sure

2:01exactly what to do with it. And the temptation is always to kill it, to burn it with fire. And again, sometimes it's actually pretty sympathetic to this particular temptation. So I don't know if you've been watching the robot games over in Beijing, but you know, it's creepy and weird. It's creepy and weird. So here was the thing that I'm going to say it's creepy and weird. It's creepy and weird. So here was some of what it looked like when Beijing hosted the world robot games. You can see gigantic lines of robots dancing in Unison, walking in Unison, maybe see news. Yeah, not a super fan. Not super into it. I mean, to be fair, the Beijing Olympics, a few years back, kind of looked like that. But with humans, because again, the Chinese government prefer automaton. Now again, some of these robots not that scary because they're falling over. There were some funny moments in which these robots did not look like they were doing an amazing job and proceeded to sort of crash into each other.

3:02One robot fought another robot and then broke out into a victory dance. Here's what that looked like. I mean, one of them actually didn't actually win. Just kind of fell down. But in winning robot, then broke out into a victory dance. Okay, I mean, again, some of this stuff is creepy. Some of it's scary. Some of it's just weird. Some of it was pretty funny. One of the humanoid robots kind of fell down and broke, which I have to admit, maybe. Here's a running, oh, well, there goes one of the robots. I guess it on the stretcher. Good bye, the robot. But the robots will get better. Okay, and the robots will get creepier. For sure. Well, there's one robot. It broke itself and the second one just crashed. Okay. So, you know, again, it'll burn itself with fire as it turns out, but again, I'm laughing about all this,

4:03but again, technology is pretty scary. It can be really scary. Okay, they even made robot kids in China. I don't know why you'd want a robot kid. Regular kids are great, but they made robot kids for no reason, which is crazy. No, no, bad. Do not like. Why, no. Because they're not producing enough regular kids in China. They need robot kids now. All of the annoyance and none of the comfort. Okay, so I'll be the first to say it. Sometimes we ought to burn technology with fire. Well, today Facebook signed a gigantic settlement with some 29 states to put some new restrictions on the use of its technology for children. Now, let's be clear. I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to now, let's be clear. Social media is disastrous for kids' brain. Disastrous. It is basically a drug. It addicts them. That's what it's designed to do. In much the same way that nicotine is addictive, it turns out that actually social media is addictive. You have hacked your brain, and now you have basically found dopamine release features that allow you

5:05to directly access the dopamine release with a few easy hand motions. And kids pick up on the stuff so fast if you ever leave a small child in proximity of an iPad, I'm talking like two years old, that kid will find it, starving it, be landing it and become addicted to it. Their eyes glaze over, they turn into little zombies. It's a real thing. And again, there's a lot of brain studies to demonstrate this. There's one study from the curious journal, 2025 called Modern Day High, the Neuro-Cognitive Impact of Social Media usage, they found quote, social media engages in brain-reward pathways, akin to those seen in addictive behavior, with extended beta and gamma activity, having the potential to interfere with emotional regulation and attention. These neurophysiological consequences, especially delayed alpha recovery and increased delta activity, could bring to the four new concerns regarding digital fatigue and mental health. The research indicates the importance of platform design interventions and additional longitudinal investigation. So in other words, a lot of this stuff was designed to do it. And again, you know this yourself. If you have ever scrolled X, doomed scrolled X,

6:07the reason it's designed the way it originally was with Twitter, where you would scroll with your thumb and then you'd hear a little noise as it was literally training you in Pavlovian fashion to get that small dopamine release so that you'd want to do it again. And again, there are lots of studies along these lines. There's one study from the Children's Health Council that was funded by the NIH. And it found the children who spend more than seven hours a day of screen time may experience premature thinning of the part of the brain that processes sensory information. That data comes from a $300 million research funded by the National Institute of Health, following 11,000 kids aged 9 to 10. It turns out, heavy screen time has negative implications for kids emotional, psychological, and cognitive development. And kids with more screen time have premature thinning of the brain cortex. That's the part that's responsible for interpreting information from the physical world. So again, this stuff is making you stupid and it was designed to make you stupid because it was designed to be addictive. It was designed to make you want to watch it more of it. Well, now, meta has been sued in a wide variety of states over its design and they reached a $17 billion settlement.

7:09Now, to be fair, meta is worth hundreds of billions of dollars. So this is not remotely the value of the company, but it's a pretty major settlement nonetheless. According to CNBC, meta and a coalition of state attorneys general have settled a major federal case censoring on allegations the social media giant misrepresented the extent of child and mental health harms caused by apps like Facebook and Instagram. The settlement was revealed in a court filing released Wednesday that details, several requirements meta has to make to its apps as part of it proposed consent judgment. So it's not just they're paying the states a bunch of money. They are, but also they are including a bunch of new changes in the app. So those changes apparently include daily usage limits and also nighttime blocks for teenagers who use Insta and also Facebook. Also enhanced age assurance measures to prevent kids from ending around the security features and the creation of some additional tools for parents and guardians. Some states are clearing a couple of billion dollars. Other states didn't join in on the settlement. So Texas didn't join in on the settlement Florida

8:10and not join in on the settlement. Rob Bonta, who is the AG for California said today give secured a settlement with meta that will make social media less dangerous for our kids and make a world of difference for children and their families. meta has agreed to make massive transformations that reduce the risk of harm from its platforms and will do it within months. So what are some of the things that have been put in place? Well meta announced it. The majority of the terms are acquired to remain in place for some 10 years and they automatically apply to everyone under the age of 18 on Instagram and Facebook. So time limit, a default two hour daily time limit that teens can only turn off with a parents permission. Now again, the devil is in the details had to assure that it's not just the kid logging on to mom and dad's account and then turning it off himself very difficult to actually assure that's what happened. Night mode, a default block from the apps between midnight and 6am. But again, that is not a particularly huge restriction considering that the vast majority, vast bulk of time that young people would spend on Facebook and Instagram presumably is not between midnight and 6am, which is when they're sleeping.

9:13Notifications are muted by default between 8am and 3pm. Now again, muted by default means theoretically you could unmute by not default. Teens will also receive prompts after every 15 minutes of continuous screen time on either Facebook or Instagram and they'll receive prompts when their daily total usage hits 60 minutes and 90 minutes. Teens will be able to choose a non algorithmic feed as their default. Now again, that should be the default. The default should be non algorithmic. The algorithmic feed is dangerous. The algorithmic feed basically feeds you what you want to see. It's one of the things that makes these feed so addictive. It's one of the reasons why if you click on a particular video on YouTube, you are then going to be fed a bunch of similar content and it's how you end up down crazy rabbit holes in the online space. It's why young people appear to be so siloed in their information on everything from news to entertainment. Teens will be able to turn off auto play. But again, that is not the default. That should be the default. But the default should be no auto play because auto play is the idea when you scroll.

10:14When you hit a video, it starts playing. The default should be that you actually have to click it to make it play. Now one good development here is the teens aren't going to see the number of likes and reactions on posts by default. That is a good default. He's in kids who are seeking that echo chamber, kids who want people to give them the likes and the clicks. If they can't see that, that is useful. They're also getting rid of apparently teens being able to use cosmetic surgery filters and extreme makeup filters. So again, why that was ever in place in the first place is insane to me, especially for young girls where social contagion is a real thing, huge mistake to have them capable of accessing all these filters and make their face look different. They also want age assurance. So they're investing in stronger technology to proactively catch accounts that belong to under 13s and strengthening the technology to identify accounts at between the ages of 13 and 17. App stores have to provide developers with age information that is verified.

11:15So they're saying it's not just us, it's also the app store that has to make sure this is the case. In a second, we'll get to more on everything going on with social media. As I'm saying, your kids have been accessing a lot of crap information. That's also true for pretty much everybody who's accessing legacy media. The New York Times readership among young Americans has totally cratered, but it's not as though that is being replaced by better information. Unless you are making Prager U available to your kids. Prager U is the rising generations last best hope. Millions of students log on every day for five minute videos on economics, history, faith, and freedom that teach the truth, not what CNN and others want young people to believe. Prager U has no paywall, no smirking newscasters, no bias dressed up as objectivity. Just the facts presented in an age appropriate wholesome all-American way. But Prager U runs on people like you. I think government not advertisers who despise you. Give today your donation is triple match with PragerU.com slash Daily Wire. It's PragerU.com slash Daily Wire. And we've been working with Prager U for years. They're awesome. I have a bunch of videos myself with Prager U.

12:15They're informing literally millions of young people every single day, but in the right way with good information. Not the algorithmic slop that are getting everywhere else. Go check them out right now. PragerU.com slash Daily Wire. Every donation you give is triple matched. Jonathan Height, who's been probably the leader in this area. He put out a tweet at a sort of half celebrity and half warning. He said, met as $16.7 billion settlement is the largest accountability moment in social media history for child safety. The 47 AGs who drove it deserve tremendous credit. Restricted notifications and time limits are good. It's historic the AGs have gotten design changes. The settlement leads untouched many of the features that harm kids. For example, the algorithm, right? This is the point that I was making. It was established in the previous court case and it met as on research and met as design to harm children. The work ahead is to make them change that design. Not just how long kids can access Instagram's harmful design and not just on an opt in basis. It's a great step. Let's work together and make sure that it is not the last step. So again, all of this is beneficial. We should be moving toward more of this, I think, frankly,

13:17that there should be heavy-handed regulation on social media and you should be banned from social media completely until you are of age. I do not think minors need or have the right to social media. Social media is a disaster area. It's terrible for them in every way it is possible for it to be terrible for them. There are a bunch of other countries that have already done this. And I think that frankly, it would be a welcome development. Because when you are feeding algorithmic slop to young people, you are wrecking their brains, really wrecking them. And again, you can say all you want, I've said it too. It's up to the parents to make sure their kids don't engage in the stuff. I have kids who are 12, 10, 6, 3, and 0. So I have lots of kids. And my kids are stronger than I am when it comes to not being part of this entire milieu. They're not interested in it. My 12-year-old is constantly saying that you want nothing to do with it. As she gets older, I hope that that remains. But there are lots of other parents who just aren't as involved on this level. And their kids' brains matter as well. And when you wreck those brains, very, very difficult to un-wreck.

14:18Now, not Ultec is created equal. So one of the weirdnesses of the current way that people perceive technology is that they're actually warmer toward, for example, Facebook, Instagram, then they are toward actual technologies that are going to transform the American economy. So, fascinating pull demonstrates that most Americans actually like, for example, the big tech platforms. They actually like them. They think they're good. But you got it. I'm gonna go know on that. So, for example, this is a survey from the argument of 3,000 eight registered voters in the finds that on Google, 29% of people are very favorable, 35% of people are somewhat favorable. On Amazon, 62% favorable. Again, I like both Google and Amazon. Microsoft, 52% favorable. Apple is 50% favorable. Hey, but once you get to open AI, GROC and Anthropic, massive unfavorables.

15:18Is particularly true with XAI and Anthropic. Why? Well, because first of all, a lot of people use Chatchee PT. It turns out the more you interface with the technology, the more you tend to like it and to use it. Chatchee PT, about 48% positive, and about 27% negative. So overall, more positive than negative. With that said, it is still significantly less popular than the other sort of technology companies. What is this result in? There's an overall unease, like a very, very large overall unease about AI. Now, should start from the beginning here. Artificial intelligence could save the American economy. Seriously. AI boost productivity. You know this yourself. If you use Chatchee PT, the amount of time it would take me, for example, just in my job, to research particular data questions. And again, you go through, we check the data, but the amount of time it would take me, DeNovo, to research a particular multi-part complicated question, is so much larger through things like Google use, and it would be simply by using Chatchee PT,

16:20or Claude, or Proplexity. It boggles the mind. It is significantly more efficient to synthesize information using AI, and it is to do it using the old fashioned way of just Googling things. And this is true in a wide variety of arenas. The uses for AI are legion, and very often they're excellent, like really, really good. The AI's are really good, which is why, according to the Dallas Federal Reserve, quoting Goldman Sachs, you could see a massive boost in American productivity. Somewhere between 0.3 and 3.0 percentage points a year, over the next decade, with a median estimate of 1.5 percentage points in productivity increased. As the Dallas Federal Reserve says, if that happened, it would make a remarkable impact. And yet at the same time, you have a lot of people, mainly people who are catastrophes about technology, and who are very often in favor of centralized control, saying they want centralized control. So I'm amused to see so many people who are on the right who hate Bill Gates for a variety of reasons,

17:21including, for example, his devotion to the idea of big government redistributionism, and also his love for global warming. Now Bill Gates is out there ripping on AI, and suggesting that mass numbers of jobs will be wiped out. Now again, we have not seen mass numbers of jobs being wiped out. And my suspicion is that you will see jobs that are lost, but you will also see an enormous number of jobs that are gained. Jobs will change. I think that this technology will bleed into the public, gradually a little bit slower than people think it's going to. A sort of the vast unemployment way that Bill Gates is predicting here is exaggerated. He said in an interview with SEMIFOR, that quote, the technology has crossed dangerous thresholds in biology, cyber security, white collar work, and human relationships. Originally three years ago, he said that the coming bumpy AI job disruption would lead to a manageable transition and the technology would help people work efficiently. Now he says it will wreak economic catastrophe

18:21with far fewer jobs than exists today, thanks to the speed of AI advancements and what he calls a non-existent response from government and tech leaders. So he's afraid, he says, that if AI continues unchecked, society will turn against it entirely. He says, what is the backlash going to be as these jobs go away? It'll make the data center thing look like nothing. Now again, Bill Gates has spent his career basically since founding Microsoft, dooming and glooming it up. It took him years to acknowledge that his sort of doomsday view of global warming was unrealistic. He wrote an entire book, which is not very good. I've read it about how to defeat global warming and the answer is global redistributionism, of course. And of course, he's involved in a wide variety of truly globalist institutions. And I took him a while to realize that actually all of that was nonsense. Everybody was last year saying Paris climate goals were unrealistic. That was a key milestone because the countries, the world said, hey, this is a mutual problem. The temperature rise, the entire world

19:24will experience a temperature rise from the emissions from all these countries. So getting countries to commit was very, very important. The one thing about that accord that turned out not to be realistic was the ambitious goal of staying to 1.5 degrees. We won't be able to do that. Even if you took all the money away from health, you wouldn't be able to do that. Okay, so again, why are so many people now jumping on the Bill Gates bandwagon? He was wrong about the climate accords. He was wrong about the widespread COVID vaccine. He was wrong about a bunch of things. But now people are jumping on back of this. Why? Well, first of all, we should acknowledge there are a bunch of people in the AI space, the so-called AI tumors. Many of them are leading AI companies and what they really, really want is the government to step in and heavily regulate AI so that they have market capture. One of the things to be wary of when it comes to artificial intelligence regulation is the idea that the people who have the biggest companies want to write the rules.

20:24So Dario Amote, who is the founder of Anthropic, who wrote a 20,000 word opus on his website back in January about AI. And he acknowledges that the most obvious effect of AI is greatly increase economic growth, which by the way, again, that is not an anantine question. Hey, when the economic growth increases, that means you live better. It means that you have better stuff. It is easier for you to get things, things become cheaper. You get massive advances in scientific research, biomedical innovation, manufacturing, supply chain, the financial system, the acknowledges all of that. He suggested as much as a 10 to 20% sustained annual GDP growth rate. But again, I think it's overstated. But would be magic. But what he actually wants is massive tax redistribution is in regulation. So the effect of all this is that people get freaked out because you have the heads of these AI companies telling you to be doomers, freaking out, worrying. And then you have a bunch of politicians who are going around catering to the freaked out rather than trying to explain what exactly is happening.

21:26And so you end up right now in politics with this bizarre increase in hatred for data centers. Okay, all a data center is, is a place that processes an enormous amount of data. That's it. It is a big building in which there are a bunch of computers that process data. That's the whole thing. And again, Americans are kind of fine with big buildings that do things. They just don't seem to like the data centers very much. So for example, there's an echelon insight, voter poll that was taken in June. It found that 68% of Americans would support an Amazon distribution center being built in their area. But only 27% would support versus 62% oppose a data center to power artificial intelligence. That makes no sense. An Amazon distribution center is likely to have a lot more ingress in egress, right? People going in and out, lots of trucks moving in and out, lots of traffic, a lot more human beings. And the same thing is true of a traditional manufacturing factory,

22:2867% say they want it. Data centers are a lot cleaner. They have a lot less trucks moving in and out. Like there's a lot less sort of threat to communal way of life, a big building that's just kind of standing there and the employees going in and out. Okay, but because people are afraid of AI, they are afraid of the data centers. And because politicians are afraid of the people they're now responding to that by cracking down on the data centers. Now there's smart ways to sort of play this politically in stupid ways. Greg Abbott in Texas is trying to cater to people who are concerned about the data centers while simultaneously not killing the thing that is going to actually generate economic growth. City Journal has a really good piece on this, pointing out that basically Texas, which has more planned data center capacity than any other state by far, is forcing ERCOT, which is the regional grid operator to overhaul its review processes for large new connections. So they've created a streamlined process to group the first wave of projects together.

23:29So regulators can assess them more efficiently. So basically make sure there's enough power to power the data centers. Pennsylvania under Josh Shapiro, the governor over there is doing something different. They basically made it very, very difficult to build data centers. But I fear that an enormous number of politicians are going to drive America into the primrose path of anti-text stupidity. Now again, there's good tech and there's bad tech. Not all tech is created the same. Not all tech is created the same. The promises of social media were basically a giant lie. They promised more friendship. They delivered far more antipathy. They promised more information. And they delivered a bunch of misinformation, disinformation, propaganda and slop. They promised connection and instead, they often delivered addiction. And now kids have been feeling the consequences of this for a decade and a half. And it's been a disaster. But I don't think that that's true of AI. If we would like to destroy ourselves, what we should do is free up social media and restrict AI. And it seems like, you know, there's still a great tendency to do that. What we actually should be doing is we should be cracking down on social media

24:32for the sake of particularly young people who are vulnerable to the adictive qualities. And we should be ensuring obviously the worst excesses of AI are avoided. But we should not be attempting to hamstring AI so we actually lose to the Chinese. Because if you fall behind our enemies, they are not stopping. They're not going to stop at all, not for a moment. AI can work for us in ways that really help all of us. I don't think that's true of social media. Coming up, we'll get to Dolly Parton's death. Maybe the last unifying figure in American public life, why is that happening? First, do this the next time you're shopping. Turn the package around. Forget the beautiful branding on the front. Read what's actually inside the product. The ingredient list will tell you a lot. Now take a look at that balance of nature bottle. When you start looking what's actually in the whole health system, it's all ingredients that you recognize. It's apple, broccoli, ginger, cinnamon, turmeric, psyllium. The whole health system brings together 47 ingredients, real whole fruits, veggies, spices, fibers. It's not made from concentrates or isolates. The fruits and veggies supplements

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27:35forgotten in America, just Americana. Like it's fine to just love Americana. Dolly Parton is pure, she was pure Americana. Here was the family message those put out in the aftermath of her death. Dolly was a farmer just like her daddy. He farmed the soil, she farmed songs and happiness. Dolly called me and said she wants to rest in a beautiful bed of plush cotton because after a life wearing heavy rhinestones, she finally deserved to be comfortable and have some rest. Rest in peace Aunt Dolly. So again, the fact that even in the message about her passing, it's funny and it's Americana. Like that was the whole thing. President Trump put out a statement. He said, very sad report to Dolly Parton, one of the greatest country singers and far beyond ever, as just passed away. There's a true loss from millions of people. There's never been anyone like her, never will in her honor. I'm lowering the American flag throughout the United States for one week period, beating tonight at 6 p.m. Rest in peace Dolly. The world loves you, President Trump.

28:37Now again, a daily wire points out that you want more than 3000 songs during her lifetime. She had 11 Grammys, 10 country music awards, fall four American music awards and induction into the country music rock and roll and songwriters, Paul Fain. Also she was on the silver screen in over 12 theatrical releases. And she funneled a huge part of her wealth back into the community. She had her Dollywood Foundation, her buddy program initiative, slash schools, dropout rates in her hometown of Sevier County, Tennessee, by giving 500 bucks to every seventh and eighth grade or finished high school. And the buddy part involved two students pledging to get each other across the line. So Dolly Parton is maybe the last universally beloved figure in America. And that's true for a few reasons. So first of all, Dolly Parton was funny and optimistic. Okay, that was that was part of the charm that she was funny. Her whole story was about optimism about the American dream. The New York Times points out that she grew up dirt poor, literally dirt poor, that she was essentially born in a one bedroom cabin

29:41in the great Smoky Mountains and Locust Ridge, according to The New York Post. She was the fourth of 12 kids. The cabin had no electricity, had no running water. They all shared space, her and her 11 siblings in a small home. She actually recreated the cabin to her Dollywood theme park in Pigeon, for Tennessee, her fans to visit. As The New York Times says, from her hard-scrabble beginnings to glittering stardom, Miss Parton's life was the stuff of make believe. With her voluptuous figure sparkly stage costumes and blonde buffant wigs, she was likened by the writer, Chet Flippo, to the big rock candy mountain that depression, you're a symbol of abundance. Her songs that spoke to millions confronting privation and loss, even as they radiated possibility and hope. I think that really is the big thing, right? She was funny, she was entertaining, she was Americana, she wasn't about the deep darkness, the evils of life. She was upbeat. If there was one word that kind of describes Dolly Parton, she was upbeat. There's a clip of her from the Johnny Carson show back in 1979. What's your song you said you made up?

30:42Well, I wrote this song because it's been real good for me ever since I started on your show. And you said one time once I got to be real famous, I probably wouldn't come back on the show, but I always, we are, I'm here, that's much as you are. That's not supposed to be too serious, sir. I have come a long way from the hills of Tennessee and I've worked hard to make the folk back home, real proud of me. Now everybody knows my name, no matter where I go, but I never really made it till the Johnny Carson show. Again, like, just fun. It was okay to be fun. There was a time in America where it was just okay to be fun. And this brings us to the second point about Dolly Parton. She remained her entire career militantly apolitical. militantly apolitical. She was offered three times the presidential medal of freedom. Twice from President Trump, once from Joe Biden, and she declined it all three times because she didn't want it to be perceived as a political choice.

31:44And here she was being asked about her politics, obviously much later in her life. I just try to make life a little bitter. I try to lift things up when they're down. I write my songs about that sort of thing. You'll find me in my opinions, you know, in a lot of the songs. But most of it's based on love and acceptance and lifting people up. I ask God every day to let me be a blessing to mankind and to uphold Him, and to glorify Him. And that's how I go about my day. No political rallies for you this. No political rallies for me. I make my joke is that my daddy was a Republican. My mom was a Democrat. And I'm a hypocrite. Again, like, again, just staying out of it. Stay out, again, there was a time in American life where this is okay. You know, I have to know everybody's politics. Johnny Carson was like this too. Johnny Carson actually was a Democrat. But on any given day, you didn't know where he was going to come down. And he didn't make his politics the center of the issue. ABC at one point tried to get Dallie Parton to go off on Trump and hear his response.

32:50We have a president of the United States who said those things on that bus. I'm not addressing that. I do not get into that. Of course, I have my opinion about everybody and everything. But I learned a long time ago, keep your damn mask shut if you want to stay in show business. I'm not in politics. I'm an entertainer. And yeah, you're also a role model. Yes, I am. That's why I don't talk about people. So if you are deciding you may want to ask me something more serious, don't because I'm not going to answer it. Fair one, let's tell her. Well, you can ask, but I might still tell you where to put it. If I don't put it, where you got it. I mean, good for her, right? That's why. Because I'm sure that she did have her opinions, right? And kind of gather them sort of from the way that she approached it. But like, that was her whole point. Like this is what what I do is entertainment. And that's not the same thing is what everybody else is doing. And this is why it rings so hollow when you see a bunch of people trying to project politics on her. So naturally, the Democrat Socialist of America called her a hero of the working class as those shoes some sort of socialist. Okay, let's be very clear. Dallie Parton is a very rich lady.

33:50Like a very, very rich lady. I'm not aware that she apologized for it. She gave a lot of charity. She had a lot of great stuff. Trying to paint her as a sort of, you know, bizarre socialist is strange. But because she didn't do politics, you could project anything under her. And again, when she was singing nine to five, which is about the difficulties of the working life. Or when she was in the movie nine to five, which is about the difficulties of working for sexually harassing boss. That's what the movie is actually about. It still was not rooted in this sort of deep-seated America sucks. And that's why this is happening to me nonsense that the DSA likes to push. Again, she's smiling the whole time, right? I mean, like this is not about how life is so miserable.

34:50I could play some, I'm sure. Like, I can't, this is, it was all kind of upbeat and charming. Even the hard parts were upbeat and charming. That was the whole thing. It was like grin through the pain, grin through the problems. Life isn't that, life is hard, but that doesn't mean that you have to have a bad time doing it. Right? That is why Dallie Parton was so popular. I mean, she was always very grateful for her life. And here she was talking about retiring. Isn't 2019 a CBS? People always say that, why don't you retire? I said, and do what? What, no, what does that even mean? Sit on your pile of money and awards. I'm not saying that. I don't care. I always count my blessings more than I count my money. I don't work for money, never did. I just wanted, it was the arts. It was the job. I loved the work. And I've done well and I'm thankful for it.

35:51Again, like, that sound like super socialistic to you. Again, the whole thing here is just a baseline American optimism. And she talked about giving back. Again, she became very wealthy and then she spent a lot of her money giving back to people. I wanted to do something special for him. As years went by, I saw how kind of, he thought he couldn't learn to read after he was grown. It was just one of those things. And so I had the idea to do something special for him. In the Bible, where it talks about honor your father and your mother, I don't think that necessarily means just to obey them. I think it means to bring honor to their name, if you can. So I got my daddy involved with this little program. I wanted him to feel like he was part of something special. So we started the imagination library where we were given books to the children in our home. And we were in a county in severe county where we were born and raised. And so we'd hope that it would do good there. And it became such a popular program that the governor of Tennessee at that time,

36:57Phil Bredison, he thought the idea was so great. They took it and went all over Tennessee. And then later, it went on into Canada. And now we're all over the world and different parts of the world. And that's awesome. It's great. I mean, Dali Parton also understood the mission. She was meticulous about only being shown in circumstances where she wanted you to see her. She knew that she'd made up her image for Shobez. And she made herself up to be that. Here she was describing the story of her local regionally. It was not allowed to wear makeup in the hair. And the most beautiful girl woman I had ever seen in my life lived. We didn't go to town that much. But when I would, I would go to see her because she had these long red fingernails. She wore bright lipstick. She had proxied blonde hair, wore tight clothes short. And I thought she was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. And my mother said, oh, she's just trash. She's just a tramp. And I thought, that's what I want to be when I go. Yeah. Yeah.

37:57Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then again, she was very religious person. So again, it was all these things. She said at one point in an interview with the New York Times, I've created this and played it up to make up the whole persona. She said, this isn't all I am. It's not even most of what I am. Hopefully people can see beneath the hair and know there's a brain, beneath the boobs, to know there's a heart and behind all the other stuff to know, there's some talent. And again, she was quite Christian. Here was Dolly Parton describing her Christianity. And this is kind of the third part of it is that she was culturally conservative. Dolly Parton. She, she, she signaled to everybody who is between the coastal cities that she was one of them without ever becoming overtly political. I mean, I grew up knowing Jesus loved me and, and I knew that through God, all things were possible. And, you know, I just grew up with those little things that we just heard all the time. My grandpa was a really good preacher. He used to scare me a little bit. He was a hellfire, brimstone, kind of, I wrote a song years ago called Daddy was an old time preacher man, was about him, about my grandpa.

39:03Because in one of the lines is he preached tales so hot you could feel the heat. So he was one of those people. But anyway, it was a good, it was a good life and I wouldn't take nothing for it. I mean, we had a hard time. But I think everybody should be proud of their family. I think you should be proud of your religion. I don't care what it is. We're just all trying to get to God. I mean, again, this is why people liked her. The family's message said, quote, Dolly has lived in the light and is in the arms of Jesus, surely met by Carl, her parents and countless others, who have watched her and long for her to meet her in the heavens. So why are people so upset by Dolly Parton's passing for the same reason Americans were upset when Johnny Carson died or now it's Quebec died or any other celebrity who kind of feels like they're part of our collective life. And also who works pretty hard not to step into arenas in which Americans are divided. These people feel like vestiges of about her time, a time when Americans could just kind of enjoy stuff together. We could all enjoy it, but everything being so political all the day, I'm time. Now, here's the reality. I'm not sure the political climate in America today would allow a newfangled Dolly Parton to exist.

40:06Her silence would be deafening or refusal to take sides to be counted as cowardice. We'd force her to say things about politics and then we'd punish her for saying things about politics. Or maybe the secret to Dolly Parton is that she was from a different time and then she refused to bow to the dumb standards of our own and maybe other celebrities should take a lead from that and do the same thing. So RIP, Dolly Parton, and again, one of the rare unifying moments for the United States. Now, it's more on this in a moment. First, there is a point where enjoying good food starts feeling like a budgeting exercise. You find a restaurant you love, the bill arrives, you realize that trying a new restaurant has become a pretty serious financial commitment. That's one reason that Cook Unity caught my attention. The experience is surprisingly close to what people actually want from restaurants in the first place. Genuinely good food made by real chefs. Cook Unity is the first chef-led meal delivery service that prepares meals in small batches inside local microkitchens across the country instead of producing them in giant factories. And honestly, you can tell because meals don't feel mass produced, the food tastes like somebody actually cooked it because somebody actually did. Cook Unity works with Michelin, star chefs, and James Beard award winners, food network personalities who create meals that are then prepared in local kitchens and delivered fresh, never frozen.

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43:13Back to disunity. It turns out the Democrats are very happy to become fellow travelers with third world ism. This is the philosophy that basically suggests that America has subjected the rest of the world to poverty, privation, exploitation. Senator Chris Coons is out there suggesting that America is no longer the leader of the free world. I wonder who he thinks is. I would say we are no longer the leaders of the free world. In fact, if anything, Velotomor Zelensky is the primary national leader who is putting his countries men and women on the line for freedom and we need to earn our place back as leader of the free world in the future. Well, I mean, it seems to me that we are still the leader of the free world considering we continue to provide Velotomor Zelensky the weaponry through NATO that he requires. But the reality is the Democratic Party is perfectly willing to fellow travel with people who despise America, truly despise America. And the Hassan Piker thing is not a small, is it's not a small thing. Hassan Piker, the Twitch streamer who's campaigned with half a dozen candidates at this point, including most famously Abdul Al-Sahed over in Michigan.

44:23And there are people who are trying to claim that Abdul Al-Sahed is moderating toward Israel or that he's moderating in his anti-American views. Hassan Piker is here to assure us that's not the case. There are going to be a lot of people who are already questioning Abdul Al-Sahed's sincerity on these issues that will then turn around and say, oh, he's, you know, he's moderating his position on Israel, all the stuff. I don't think he is. Okay, I will say this. I am literally the person that is being dangled. And I'm going to tell you once again, he's not moderating on his perspective on Israel or anything like that. Oh, we know. We know. It turns out, by the way, according to the Washington Freebeacon, more than a dozen donors to the Hitler praising neo-Nazi congressional campaign of Dan Billsarian have also contributed, you will be shocked to learn to Abdul Al-Sahed. In many cases, spreading thousands of dollars between the two candidates. The donors include a man who has equated Nazism to Nazism and a Texas subprime auto loan entrepreneur who threw his weight behind Marshal Taylor Green and Thomas Massey as well.

45:32The most significant crossover donors again in Ibrahim Awad was given more than $19,500 between both candidates. Again, Texas subprime auto loan entrepreneur Hussein Sam Mahrukh is also a donor to both campaigns. He has ponied up more than $150,000 to support anti-Israel candidates around the country, including, of course, Han Omar and Rashida to leave. Now, some Democrats know this is awkward. John Favreau over at PODSEV America is saying, we should just not talk about his son, Piker. What if we just ignore it? Let's just ignore the problem. I know you want to ignore it, my dude. I'm aware. I'm aware that you want to draft off the energy of the Red Green Alliance and then pretend it doesn't exist, but it's very real. It's just calling on all den to take the don't talk about Hassan Piker for a day challenge. Can we do it? Lots of other topics to focus on 69 days left until the midterms, maybe for successfully can try for a full week. Well, I mean, you're the ones campaigning with him. You're the one who had him on your show and glazed him. That was you.

46:32And the radicalism of the Democratic Party, they're willing us to fellow travel with radical Islam is quite real. Speaking of which, the radical Islamic mayor of New York, again, astonishing as we approach the 25th anniversary of 9-11, he put out a statement yesterday, Ma'leed al-Nabi Mubarak to Muslims in New York City and around the world. Today, we honor the life and enduring legacy of Prophet Muhammad may peace be upon him, who's teachings of compassion generosity, justice, faith, and service have inspired communities for more than 1400 years. I have a few questions. Like a few. A few questions about the history of Islam over the course of the last 1400 years. Has the general legacy of Islam been compassion generosity, justice, faith, and service across the course of planet Earth, like for the past several hundred years? Is that like today? Is that really the actual legacy of the Prophet Muhammad, like right now? Is that what's is that the thing? Truly.

47:36Here in New York, says Aaron Mamdani, his example, Muhammad's example reminds us that caring for one another, embracing our diversity and serving our communities makes us stronger. As we work to build a better New York City for everyone, take New Yorkers, take your lead from the Prophet Muhammad. You should conquer all the surrounding areas and put all of the men above puberty to the sword and also use deception and war and maybe have some questionable marital practices. Oh, no, no, sorry. He means that you should just be like nice to each other like Muhammad would, you know, wishing joy, peace, and blessings upon all who celebrate says Zoran Mamdani. Again, when it comes to the actual precepts of religion, religions can be interpreted wide variety of ways. I know many reform Muslims who have attempted to interpret the Quran in ways that are significantly more compliant with Western civilized principles, but to pretend that Islam is inconsonant. As currently practiced by billions of people across earth with those principles is a stretch. It is certainly a stretch that Zoran Mamdani.

48:39Well, here is the Secretary General of the International Union of Muslim Scholars pointing out that if it weren't for 10-7, October 7th, you know, the gigantic terrorist attack murdering 1200 Jews, then Zoran Mamdani and El Sayed wouldn't be elected. Why? Because of that red green alliance. So if not for the al-Aqsa flood and if the Zionists were not put to shame, what is happening in Europe and America would not be happening. Mamdani would not have become governor of New York State. He's not in the mayor. Abdul Rahman Al Sayed would not have defeated a campaign worth $73 million. These are all the blessings of the al-Aqsa flood. I mean, so which part of Islam is that? That was in Qatar, by the way. And again, you know, not every Muslim is radical. As I've said many, many times, lots of Muslims are not. But if we're talking about the importation of literally millions of people from Muslim countries into the West and asking how that impacts the West, that doesn't seem like a crazy question.

49:47There's a series of videos that have been going viral over the course of the last week or so. One in which a man went undercover in London and asked Muslims how he could get involved in terrorist groups and that they started, some of these people just started directing him to the local mosque. Do you know which mosque support bringing Sharia law to London? As I was walking, going counter the Muslim man handing out pamphlets. How are you? Welcome to the Bidrdar mosque. Yes, sure. What is this mosque? That's here. Today we crude for Islamic resistance groups here too. Yeah, everything, everything. Each and everything in our life. Right. And you think Sharia law is good for the UK? 100%! You want Sharia law? Yeah! Sharia law one day we bring the Caliphate to this country. That was insane. So I had to go check it out. Hello brother. Is the mosque over there? Yeah. Yeah. These mosques here, I heard they helped people find the help to give weapons to for you to go and train with the Hices and Al-Qaeda. Yeah, definitely. I entered the mosque and spoke to the representative there. What is it you guys do exactly?

50:50I am the lape who will come. 67 people will come to Islam. We will do training. Two o'clock. We started training them. So that's great. Again, we've also decided that it would be a great idea to bring in people like Sneco. Said he could explain that actually what we ought to be worried about is a nuke wrapped into fillin, to fillin his filatries, like where it says that you're supposed to. You know, buying God's words to your arm and to your head, right in the Bible. It's like that. He says Americans could literally look up in the sky watching a nuke wrapped into fillin fall on their heads and still be talking about transgender sports. Alexander Nugan liked that tweet. So again, the Democratic Party willing to follow travel with an enormous amount of this. So what can be done about this? Well, the secretary of state announced sanctions and designation of far left tech and Tifa networks and terrorist organizations yesterday. According to Fox News. A state department memo reveals an international technology collective now under a US global terrorism designation provided services to overseas terrorist groups and violent far left agitators causing chaos in American cities.

51:54According to a copy obtained by Fox News digital. There's something called the AI collective. It's an Italy based group that builds highly sophisticated digital infrastructure and it is used by Islamic terrorists and also apparently not just by Hamas and the IRGC, but also by rose city antifa. So again, that red green lines is very real, not just in ideology, but also in practice. The president declared Palestine action a global terrorist organization that is a protest group that has now been added to a list that includes Hamas al-Qaeda and the Islamic state. All of which is is very useful because something needs to be done about all of this, even as the Democrats continue to draft off of it. Okay, meanwhile updates in the Lindsey Clancy trial. So really interesting sort of medical debate happening in the Lindsey Clancy trial. So when it comes to criminal cases, I think the most important thing is to focus in on the specific facts of the case. So the defense has claimed in this case that she had post-partum psychosis. That she was hearing voices and that is why she killed her three kids and then tried to kill herself.

52:57The prosecution is arguing that actually she didn't hear voices or at least it would have been unusual for her to hear voices that that would have not been post-partum psychosis and that she's sort of making that part of the story up in order to cover for a premeditated crime. There was a forensic psychiatrist named Dr. Gregory Sadhoff testifying a Clancy's trial. What was very unusual was the fact that the voice stopped with the death of or the strangling of her of her youngest son, Calon. And that she went upstairs and then proceeded to engage in behavior in an effort to kill herself, but that the voice had stopped. So again, he's suggesting that is unusual. So unusual that it is unlikely to be true. The basically she's making up the voice that told her to kill her kids and that she knew full well what she was doing when she murdered her children, which of course, she should get the death penalty.

54:04Here was a forensic psychologist called by the state, Dr. Kirk Hyalbrun. He said that she has bipolar two, not bipolar with manic episodes. Typically bipolar one is the one that is sort of manic episodes. And in manic episodes, you might expect to hear voices or something like that. I ended up with a diagnosis making a diagnosis of bipolar two disorder, which is a slightly less, not slightly, it's a less severe form of bipolar disorder. And Dr. why did you diagnose with bipolar two and not bipolar? Because bipolar, as I said, is a more severe kind of diagnosis. It's more noticeable. And if you had a bipolar diagnosis, then I would want to see something that looks that clearly and definitely looks like a manic episode. And I did not see any evidence of that before January 24th of 2023.

55:07So, Ali Bustucky has been watching this very closely. She put out a tweet saying that she thinks that Lindsey now deserves the death penalty. She says Lindsey clansies out six doctors and in multiple hospital stays in the months leading up to the murder of her children. She was never once diagnosed with postpartum depression or psychosis. I'd not realize this originally. These terms have been used and applied only during this trial never before she killed the kids. Most people do not know that those to show how social media nerves can have a huge impact on how you perceive truth. She had been diagnosed with a mood disorder that left her depressed. She'd reportedly considered suicide, she had trouble sleeping. That's why she was on and off so many medications. But she had never claimed to have heard voices except for during the short window she killed her babies. A psychologist today testified that hearing voices only once would be extremely unusual if a person is truly having a psychotic episode. When I first started talking about the trial weeks ago, I thought that offense's case was compelling. I've long been concerned about the effects of SSRIs and I thought for sure they could be the culprit. I don't see the strong case for that anymore. I think Lindsey with the methodical deliberate into exactly what she was doing. Now again, that is Ali Beth doing what you should do, which is following the evidence as you see it.

56:08So, Ali Beth changing her opinion based on the evidence that's being presented is typically how you ought to follow a case. Now, I will say that when it comes to psychiatry, psychiatry in many cases is more art than science. The way these things are typically diagnosed is based on checklists. They are based on symptomatic descriptions. You can have two different psychiatrists, diagnosed two separate conditions based on the same set of symptoms and a different take on medication interactions, for example. So, it is a very, very vague business. That is one of the things that makes this case so difficult because again, if you're trying to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that she did this with malice of forethought, you have to basically dispense with any serious doubt that anyone might have about drug interactions or postpartum psychosis and manifested in this particular case or bipolar one or even a severe formal bipolar to the manifest in hallucinations. So, this is part of the difficulty of this particular situation. Again, I'm not saying this is an easy case, but I think that the unease of the case is one of the things.

57:09It's a reason why everybody should be pretty careful about how they draw conclusions from all of this and many people are not being particularly careful about how they draw conclusions that apparently includes former Obama campaign strategist Lori Watkins who appeared on G.B. News or what that looked like discussing this case. The idea that she is innocent is because these are man hating women that are standing outside. This is what it's about. They think the husband did it. They are insane. Lori Watkins. What you just said was absolutely disgusting. Thank you. You should be ashamed of yourself and you can hear that he's not okay. Why is this true? They're crazy. They've lost their mind. They know why they're waving for a wheelchair. Do you know why the woman is in a wheelchair? Did you even notice that she's in a wheelchair? She couldn't kill us. She's a murderer. Because she jumped out the window after this. She should have done it. I didn't know what she was doing. Be quiet. Because they did. I've had it with you. Oh my god. And you're expecting an emisogen. She's a murderer. I'm hearing.

58:09I'm sorry if you see. You see. I'm so sorry if you two both speak the same time. No one at home can hear. You can give them the time. No, no, no. Thomas, you've had to say. You've had to say. You're going to have to agree with me. Lori, do you want to say anything else on this? No. Let him dig his eyes. Okay. Okay. So again, I think everybody needs to actually take a step back and actually look at the case itself. Yesterday we had the opportunity to speak with Lila Rose, the founder of live action about the case. Here's what it sounded like. And Lila, thanks so much for taking the time. I really appreciate it. Thanks. Great to see you, Ben. So obviously people are very, very upset on a lot of levels about the Lindsey K. On one side, you have people who are upset that people are sympathetic to Lindsey Klan. She's mental illness on the other side. You have people who are very, very upset that people are unsympathetic to Lindsey Klan. These mental illness. What do you make of the whole case? Why do you think this becomes to a flashpoint in American society? It seems to me that there's a pretty obvious case that she had significant and severe mental illness.

59:13And now we are in a fact finding modes to find out just how severe that mental illness was, whether that was to blame for the murder of her three kids or whether they were in the hospital. Whether she was sort of using that as cover to plan the murder. That's a fact finding case. Why does this become such a big issue? Well, I think it's become such a big issue because of where we are as a society right now. I think a healthy society organizes itself around the protection of children. And any hot take a reaction that doesn't first consider the children, I think is going to miss the point. Now, mothers matter tremendously, fathers matter, families matter. But I think this is where the divide is, right? Ben, because some people are saying, like, let's center this around. Lindsey's suffering, her mental health trauma, even the trauma she endured. If she did take the children's lives and it wasn't of her own volition, now she's in a wheelchair. And all these millions of mothers are empathizing with their own postpartum depression experiences. But then on the other hand, there's three little children who, one by one, were strangled to death by the very person they trusted and should be able to trust the most.

1:00:14And I do think in the common discourse about it right now, we are not remembering the children enough. And I think that's because we are an abortion, pro-abortion society. A million children are killed in the name of women's rights every single year. And I think there's this loss of empathy for children. So we should have empathy for mothers. But in a case like this, the primary victim, of course, are the three children, Korodas and Inkalen, whose lives were so brutally ended. A lot of the one other thing that's really fascinating about this particular sort of blow up is the fact that, again, it's a criminal case. It's going to come down to whether the prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she knew enough between right and wrong when she committed the killing that she was committing the killing in spite of the mental illness and with malice of fourth thought. That is the entire criminal case. But the messages people are taking away seem to be completely separate from the case. So on the one hand, you have people who are trying to make the claim. Their postpartum depression is equivalent to what she was suffering, which is obviously not true.

1:01:14And on the other hand, you have people who are trying to claim that she was purely not mentally ill, at all mental illness really doesn't exist. What do you make of the fact that, again, people seem to be separating off their own circumstances from that of the case or conflating them? Right. And I think, I mean, everybody, most everybody has an experience or knows someone who's had an experience. Most everybody knows someone or has themselves had some kind of experience with anxiety or mental illness. We all know women, I mean, a third of American mothers, a fourth to a third of them are on some kind of anti-psych meds or other medications. So this is prevalent in today's society. So I think there's a lot of empathy, you know, for Lindsey, people are putting themselves in her shoes and imagining how this could have happened. And I also think, Ben, it's such a horrific act that people are trying to come up with a reason. And psychosis is a more comforting reason in a weird way than, oh, a mother just decided one day to murder her babies in this horrifically painful way of strangulation, right? So it's almost easier for the mind to grasp, oh, it must have been psychosis, right?

1:02:16The reality is, though, like you said, this has to be legally decided in a courtroom. There's a lot of things that go into that weighing that. There have been medical experts up on stand now for weeks, you know, testifying about her condition. She didn't tear voices any time that's recorded before the actual slaying of her children. And it doesn't appear she heard them after. It was a short window when she took the lives of the children. So of course, the prosecution is saying this is a fiction, right? So those are all details to explore. But I do think you're right. We are unfortunately projecting our own struggles, maybe with mental illness or people we know with mental illness on this case. When in some cases, people are not considered criminally liable by virtue of insanity. And that might be Lindsay's case. But I think people are afraid she's going to get off scot free when she shouldn't. And that's because I will say today in American society, we do center women's feelings, emotions, decisions, choices over children. That is an objective fast back based on our legal system because of abortion. So that concern, I think, is justified. And that's what's I think creating so much of the fury over this case on in commentary and on social media.

1:03:21Now, wow, I totally agree with that. I mean, if you take a look at sort of the TikTok trends that are built around this with women who are not suffering postpartum psychosis, but now are releasing videos of themselves acting pretty crazy about just the basic handling of their kids. I'm not sure exactly what they're getting at it. If they're getting at the idea that motherhood is a form of victimhood, that it ties into as you say a sort of recentering of the world around the women as opposed to around the kids. I mean, I haven't I have five. It is not easy. It is the best thing in our life by far, no close comparison. But even if it were not, it is the single most important responsibility we have as human beings. The fact that we're building an entire society around the idea that somehow to have children is to suffer or that mothers are the chief victims of their own children is really dangerous. I totally agree. And this is what I'm most concerned about. I think you can be a champion for a postpartum mothers. I've been a postpartum mother, you know, three times now with three different babies, you know, dearest friends who have struggled sometimes postpartum depression, obviously psychosis is an extreme case. You can have empathy. We can work for better solutions for mothers and for fathers. It's hard. This is the collective project raising children, raising the next generation.

1:04:28But we can't fall into this mentality that the woman's always the victim and ignore again in the case the primary victims that are these children. And you can have mental illness. You can even be in some kind of a psychotic state here voices and still not murder your children. There are many women and men who have been in very difficult mental places that have not committed heinous crimes. So again, I think it's really important that we center the children first. This is what's lost. I believe in American society today. In some ways, women are centered over men and over children today. And that's why there's so much backlash. I think against the people that are like, you know, outside the courtroom saying we are Lindsey, we are Lindsey, because they're saying, look, American women, they have all their rights. They even have the right to kill children, which men don't have. You know, they can't order the abortion women can. And they're always centering themselves as the victim. TikTok videos are an example. You can acknowledge that we really in some ways have a mass psychosis about women's victimhood and liberation today. Well, still saying postpartum mothers deserve care. And I think that nuance is in some ways totally lacking from this conversation.

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