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He is a benevolent reptilian contactee which is really very interesting and it's something that
resonates and a lot of people don't understand that there are benevolent reptilians out there. So
I think it's very interesting when we get to interview a contactee who's had experiences with
benevolent beings such as Ken Rolla, if you don't know who he is, they and Nicole Frolic actually.
She was another one who had benevolent reptilian guides. So it's not uncommon, but it's a little
more rare than the common narrative that we hear. We don't hear about it nearly as much. We just
hear about the negative and to be fair, it's for good reason that Draco have been unfortunately
kind of in control of things for a long time. So of course we're going to hear about that more,
but a lot of people just tend to think there's only negative reptile. That's all there. It's like
that's not the case at all. And it's just like saying there's only negative humans, which is
obviously not the case. So, or negative of any race. But welcome to the show, Nigel. We're very
excited to hear your story. And basically what I would like you to do is just kind of tell our
audience what your first encounter was like with this benevolent reptilian and how that happened.
And I understand they gave you a whole download of information, including what your mission is,
and a whole number of things I'd like to get into. But we can just start there if you'd like.
Yeah, sure. Well, firstly, it's a pleasure to be with you guys. And yeah. So basically to start with
before I even encountered the beings themselves. My first sighting of a craft was pretty surreal. I
mean, I haven't had a sight in ever since I was a kid. I never saw anything growing up. I never
saw anything. And it only occurred back in 2014 where I witnessed something. And it was pretty
surreal how it all happened because I've been watching on TV a lot of the UFO and, you know,
ancient alien programs with that Georgian, the kind of the same second name.
Cuculos. Cuculos. Cuculos. Yeah.
Come on. Big hair guy. Big hair guy. Yeah. I refer to him as the guy that stuck his finger in a
electric socket. Yeah, right. Exactly. Anyway, so yeah, I'd been watching a load of these programs
up until I think it must have got to about 11 p.m. at night. And I'd be sorry,
right? I'm going to call it a night, you know, make myself a hot drink, go into the garden,
have a smoke, and then fill it in and go to bed. So I went in for the kitchen. Thanks to myself for
the drink. Went out the back door from the kitchen, which led straight out into the garden.
And, you know, the first thing I know it is, it was a clear night, you know, no wind. It was pretty
still. In fact, it felt a bit too quiet, if you know what I mean. It felt sort of like a bit
eerie sort of stillness. There was no dogs barking, no cats firing, no nothing, not even birds
that were roosting, you know, or anything. Anyway, didn't really pay a lot of attention to that at
the time. So when, so on our garden bench, we didn't have a very big garden, it was just a little
garden with some borders around there, a little old garden shed anyway, typical British.
So, yeah, I sat on the bench and I'm sipping on my tea, took a smoke out of my packet and lit it.
And our houses, where I was living at the time, the houses were down on the hillside,
so all the houses went from the top of the street and descended gradually to the bottom of the street.
Now, we were pretty much down at the bottom of the street. There was maybe a couple of
houses before the end of the street. So I'm looking towards the end of the street. I know it's
above this building at the end of the joining street, literally about, I guess it must have been
about 80 foot above the rooftop of this building. Was this bright white pool of light and I'm thinking,
well, it can't be a star, it can't be a planet or anything like that because it's too low and it's too
bright, you know. So I'm thinking what the heck is this, you know. So I'm trying to figure out what
it could be, I'm thinking, well, it can't be a plane or any drone or anything because there was
no navigation lights, there was no sound whatsoever coming from it and it was just sitting there
stationary. So I'm just like, you know, trying to figure out in my head, what is this, you know.
So anyway, I took another sip from my tea, looked up and as I did so, I thought, hang on,
that seems as though it's just started to move. And sure enough, it was only moving very slowly,
but it was under a definite intelligent control. It wasn't like a, you know, a party balloon
that somebody discarded or anything like that, you know. And it wasn't even sort of like reflecting
like that. And by this time, I'm like now, transmits with this thing, like washing as it got closer
and closer and closer towards me. To the point where it was literally over the top of my head,
I'm looking up at this thing and I'm thinking, you know, WTF. And I couldn't make out any,
sort of like physical structure or, you know, anything to it. It was just like, and it's very
intense light, you know, which basically I had to eventually look away from because it was
that bright, you know, it was like staring into a spotlight in a, you know, in a gig or something,
you know. Anyway, I stood up and turned around as this thing sort of like started creeping away
fully towards the top end of the gardens, you know. And then literally, it just sort of like,
there was somebody had a big tree in their backyard and this thing just sort of like,
disappeared behind the tree and that was the last source of it. And I just stood there,
mouthed down to my feet, you know. And thinking, what the hell was that? And then after that,
basically, I joined Facebook and, you know, because I wanted to get answers whether, you know,
other people had seen similar things and, you know, whether I was just imagining it or whether
I was going crazy or, you know, asking all these questions about myself, you know,
am I losing the plot or, you know, and sure enough, when I joined Facebook, I'd go into all
the different groups and, yeah, you know, found that, you know, other people had seen stuff like this
and, anyway, about three or four nights later,
I'm in the home just chilling on the couch watching TV.
I can't even remember what I was watching now, but anyway, so one minute, I'm laying on the couch
watching TV. I don't even recall falling asleep or anything like that. Next minute,
I'm not at home. I mean, a different total place.
I was literally a room, which was, it was a pretty largest room and the walls had like a glow
coming from like a bioluminous glow. Like, you know, those glow sticks, if you have to break them
and, you know, shake them and it gives out sort of like a luminescent glow, like a green glow.
It was like that coming from the walls. And I noticed that I was sitting behind a table which looked
like one of these, like, I don't know, like a Dennis table, you know, like these brushed aluminium
looking tables or like a catering table or something like that. Anyway, I'm sitting behind this
table. And slightly to the left of me, in front of me, was a, well, I can only describe as one of the
grades. I couldn't tell you whether it was one of the short ones or tall ones because obviously
sitting there. But it wasn't sort of like totally great. It's sort of more like a wide-ish grade,
if you get what I mean. Anyway, but there was no like interaction between me and this grade,
just sort of like it was looking away from me to the side. And so I'm like just sitting there
thinking, am I imagining this? But I noticed everything seemed so vivid, so detailed, you know,
I could make out every detail of everything. Next thing, very mind, there was no actual, like,
doorways in this room. So I thought that was a bit odd, you know, there's this being sat there,
I'm sat there, but there's no doorways. Anyway, next thing, suddenly behind the grade appeared this
eight to nine foot tall, ripped in humanoid. Now, it was pretty like muscular physique.
The scale as he had was similar to, if you know what a bearded greener you on a lizard looks like,
sort of like a light and a dark sort of like scale pan. That's what he looked like. And
I looked and he had feet, muscular legs going down towards feet, had tall hands. And he literally
walked from behind the grade. And I noticed he had, but between a two to four foot long toe.
And he literally stopped riding in front of my face, turned round looked at me. And I felt like
an energy go through me from head to foot, like a, not like a negative energy. It was sort of like a
very warm in sort of like loving glowing feeling, I felt. And he just sort of like looked at me,
and I heard in my head, which I can only think was telepathic communication. I've never experienced
anything like that before. And all I remember hearing was, don't be afraid, we're not here to harm
you. You're one of us. And I was like, excuse me. Next thing, he's just sort of like raised
like that, like a sort of, you know, and start with when they do the live long and prosper.
Yeah. It was that, that sort of like, he raised to me, turned round, gave sort of like a smile
and then just walked off and disappeared. And next thing, bearing in mind, I was laying down
when I was before this happened, I was pulled up right, explaining to myself, WTF, that was no dream.
Wow. So you weren't, so you basically thought you fell asleep or you just lay down
this fall asleep and you just, you basically were transported to another reality on a ship somewhere.
Yeah. And when it ended, you were no longer laying down, you were sitting up. No,
I was pulled up right on the couch. Wow. And then after this happened,
and at the time, I was doing some casual bus driving work.
Because originally, I was a transit bus driver and then I stopped doing full-time and
went into, so like working for small operators doing school buses, yeah, for my sin.
And two bus driving, nightclub bus driving for university students. And so the thing was,
where I was doing the work, it was back at where I'm originally from. And so it meant me driving
like about an hour to go down there to do the work and then coming back afterwards,
sort of like early hours of the morning. But sometimes they'd have more than one night's
work for me doing the nightclub bus driving. So I'd stay down there sleeping in my car,
safe on fuel, you know, because fuel was starting to get very expensive.
And so yeah, I'd take a sleeping bag and crash out in my car. And this one night,
I was sleeping my car. All of a sudden, I heard somebody call in my name. And I'm thinking,
you know, as one of the guys from work coming to the yard are trying to wake me up or something.
And I came to and I looked to the yard gates and they were still locked,
because I locked them up after everybody had gone out, so you know, particularly.
So yeah, there was nobody about. And I laid back down again, trying to get back to sleep again.
And I heard my name called again. I'm like, what the hell is going on? Who's calling me?
And then I heard, you know who's calling you. You know who we are. And basically, they told me,
like, you know, we've got things to discuss with you and tell you. And basically,
they went through, you know, how I came to be here. You know, my mission, you know, this
wasn't all in one time. It was over a period of time, you know, one time they tell me this and
another time they tell me that. And it all culminated with basically me tracking back through my life.
And to where, you know, things started to make sense then that they didn't at the time, you know,
like I was, I was very much bullied as, you know, ever since I was,
it's sort of like junior school right through my education. I didn't do very well with my qualifications
because of that. You know, I was pretty much of a loner. I didn't fit in with the other kids.
I even remember, as a very young kid, I turned around to my mum even then, like I'm talking about
maybe five, six years old or something, turning around to my mum and saying, we're not alone.
And also at the time, I was scared to sleep without a light on in my room or even in, you know,
if my mum was the, the hallway light on, you know, with a crack in the door. So I've got some light
sort of coming in because I was always saying to my mum that there was a monster under my bed.
And I'm thinking afterwards, when it, when I looked back, I was thinking, well, maybe it wasn't
a monster. Maybe I was being visited back then, you know, because they say, because they say,
you know, a lot of kids have encounters at early ages, you know, and that sort of age.
So maybe, you know, it was, yeah. But anyway, getting back to, you know, they told me that I was
placed in a human body into my mother and was born in human form. And that basically, I was
placed here because I was here as to serve as an ambassador for Earth Relations. And that my
mission was to show the existence of their big craft, you know, answer any questions that people
may have trying to awaken people to the truth, you know, expose the negative side of the reptilian
races. You know, as you mentioned in the intro, you know, a lot of people get the wrong idea
and they just stereotype reptilians all as, you know, bloodsucking,
human eatin' monsters that shouldn't even be alive. And, you know, so yeah, basically, and to
expose also the lies and the cover-ups within the military programs of hiding beings and craft.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, so there's a lot to unpack there. So let's go back to you being one of them.
Did they give you any more specific details about where they actually are from?
Where they reside? Because I know like the alpha draconians come from alpha draconis, you know,
star system. So, did they come from a different star system completely?
Well, originally, we actually originated from, you know, oh. Oh, yeah.
Right. A garther. A garther, yeah. Yeah. So the, but the benevolent reptilians were from a garther.
Okay. Well, originally, we were on the surface, but when the alphas took over, we were basically
forced on the ground. But we did have another planet that the dragon actually stole from us,
and made us basically forced us to find another planet, which, you know, for security reasons,
I'm not allowed to mention what it is, what it is. But, yeah, we are actually descended from
the dragon. That's very interesting. So, you know, the dragon realm is something that's been coming
up a lot more. I think this is the year of the dragon, isn't it? Right now? Yep. Yeah.
And they just mainstreamed just announced they discovered a full body skeleton of a dragon,
or a fossil of a dragon, something like that, like their acknowledging, oh, they actually did
exist. It's not just a myth and legend. So, they're entering the collective consciousness now.
No coincidence in my opinion. So, your race was a descendant of the dragons. And so, okay,
you mentioned in a previous interview, there were real reptilians. Can you elaborate on that for a
little more? Yeah, that's basically, our lineage is from the real rips and liens, not to be
confused with the real dawn, which is to do with the Nazis and stuff like that.
But, yeah. So, we, the real were a royal race of dragons back in
many years ago. So, yeah, you know, we are of the royal line.
So, that's interesting, because I know the real, not to be mistaken with the royal line of the
British royalty here, which are the, which are the dragon line.
Not the dragon, yeah. Right, not every royal bloodline is actually a negative bloodline. So,
what's interesting is the real is described as being like a free energy,
free energy source, right? As far as I understand. So, I wonder where originally got its name. Was
it from the dragons? From the real line of the dragons? And then because obviously the coming race,
the book, the coming race, talked about the Germans going to inner earth, looking for this real
energy, right? So, obviously, they had foreknowledge of this from expeditions or year prior. Yeah.
I mean, basically, the energy that used in the craft, which I have seen in the craft,
I've even naturally piloted a craft. Basically, the energy comes from crystals.
Oh, okay. That's a commonly reported thing. Yeah. Basically, the craft had these huge banks
of massive crystals, which basically worked like a generator.
But, you know, like, instead of using, if you know, you know, what a piezoelectric lighter,
that's when you click it, it strikes against the crystal inside the, and creates electricity.
Yeah. Now, that's sort of like similar principle, but without actually having physical,
like striking of the crystal, the crystal actually resonates and creates a magnetic
feel between one crystal and the next and the next. So, basically, it builds up a bank like a battery
back, you know. Right. So, going back to, you mentioned that the Draco's forced the reptilians
underground to inner earth, however long ago that was, and then they also resided on another
planet, which was also taken over by the Draco. So, there is no relationship or connection
at all. We're talking about two different types of reptilians completely with no relation.
Well, no, but there are, there are factions of the Draco's that basically
rebel against the Draco regime and broke away.
Oh, I've heard that from, I've heard that from multiple people actually that there are,
well, actually, Ken Rollock says that the reptilians, the benevolent reptilians that he was in
contact with were Alpha Draconians. So, that would be the ones that rebelled and broke away,
and started evolving or becoming more enlightened, you could say, whereas the rest of the Alpha Draconians
are, you could call them a regressive race, as Alex Collier would always say.
Exactly, yeah. So, but my point was, is they have no problem. It's not just like they have it
out against the humans, right? It's, they were just, it's not, it's other races as well. They're
kind of just honest, you know, take over control. Exactly. Yeah, it's kind of like, like there's
many different, there's thousands of different types of grays that kind of all get called a grave
and though, like I guess if there's just one species of gray, that's not the case, there's thousands.
Well, it's the same with reptilians. They all look kind of similar, but they're many different.
Yeah, I mean, people don't realize, you know, they think, you know, it's just the,
the reptilians and the grays. Right. But there's also like the mantis, you've got the lions,
you've got the Nordics. You know, I've actually had the pleasure of meeting three Nordic guys.
Oh, wow. Well, I was actually on a, on a, on a train once a few years back. And I was going
into the capital London, into London, Houston station. And we stuck to this station now. Our,
our suburban train services, they use electric, multiple carriage trains. And basically, the,
the seeing is basically mainly like aircraft style seating, but they do have six where you've got
two seats facing each other and then two seats facing backwards. And then they have a little
a table in the middle so you can sit there, you know, a group of you and have a, have your drink and
snack or whatever, you know, excuse me. Anyway, so I'm sitting at the window side of the seats with
the table. And we pulled up at this station and these three guys get on. They walked down the
carriage towards me. Obviously, there's three spare seats. And they just asked me very nicely,
politely. Would you mind if we join you, you know, I said, no, feel free to go ahead, you know.
So anyway, once it's beside me and the other two set up on the opposite side of the table.
Anyway, the one that was sat in literally opposite me on the other side of the table.
I looked at him and I was like, I looked at the other guys and I was like, hang on,
these guys look like they are Nordic. You could tell because they had the blonde hair,
the piercing blue eyes. And I was like, for some reason, this one that was sat opposite me,
it felt like he was looking into me, like, you know, reading me.
And I just turned around. I went, let me hazard a guess. I said, would you guys happen to be
from Norway at all? And they went, yeah, I said, I knew it. I said, so anyway, I'm like,
what are you guys doing in England? And they went, oh, we're just over here doing the tourist
bit. We've been up to Birmingham and this and that and we're heading into London now, you know.
So I was like, yeah, good chat with her and they were really nice guys.
And we pulled into the capital station in London, Houston, get out of the train.
I woke up the platform with them to the concourse area. And I said, oh, what do you guys plan
for the day then? And they were like, oh, we're going to the, you know, madams through
swords, the wax works, you know, going to the London dungeon, bucket and pairs, all the usual
touristy bits, you know, I said, well, had a great day guys should the ends and yeah,
well, they went and obviously like afterwards, like, wow. So you didn't, aside from that,
they didn't tell you anything, any other information, you just kind of more of your hunch that
they were Nordics. Yeah. Well, I mean, I believe that happens and I'm sure we've all encountered
being sometimes I look at everyone differently now. Sometimes I wonder, like, was that just an
ET, you know, so I've heard many stories like that. And sometimes, sometimes there will be dead
giveaways with a person says, oh, and then I turned around for a split second and then they were
like, disappeared, you know, like, so obviously it's not a normal human or something else is going
on there. Or they start getting a telepath, like, they started talking to me normally and then
they started telepathically communicating and then I knew, okay, they're definitely need to.
Well, I had a strange experience one morning. I'm an early rising, you know, I get up with
a crack at dawn, you know, when the birds start singing and I've always been like that because
the work I've always been doing has been like driving work of some description, you know, I used to
do delivery work and stuff like that. So sometimes I'd be on the road, like, early in the morning,
like maybe even 2, 2, 30 AM in the morning. So, you know, me and getting up early is no problem, you know.
But anyway, this one morning, I woke up, it was about 5 AM, just before 5 AM, I'd run out of
smokes, so I had to go to the local store, which is literally two minutes walk away from home,
which is candy, you know, we've got takeaways, we've got, yeah, I'll be right on as I said, you know.
Anyway, I'm walking towards the store and, you know, normally the only people I encounter,
if I'm up that early, going to the store to get my smokes and a drink, is people going to work,
you know, you can tell the people that are going to work, so we're in their high-beast jackets and
whatever, you know. Anyway, before I even got to the shop, this was the weird bit,
that there was two guys walking the opposite way, not to the shop, but to away from the shop,
which I don't normally encounter anyone walking away from the shop towards me.
There was two guys, and as they got leveled with me, I couldn't really make, they were wearing
dark clothing, I couldn't really make out any facial features or anything, one of them just turned
around, looked at me, and I didn't even see him saying anything physically, I just heard in my head,
oh, this snake man was saying, and the side laughing with the other guy, and as you say,
next thing observed, and they vanished. So what did they say in your head?
Oh, look, they were like laughing and saying, oh, they're snake guy. Oh, snake guy.
Oh, they're snake guy. That's the new reptilian being, yeah, interesting.
So have you, that's very interesting. Have you encountered any of the Draco, any of the negative
ones in your time here? Yeah, unfortunately I have. What was that?
I've got a lot of negative attacks. I've met ones on Facebook in specific that
have basically threatened my life, threatened my family's life.
And I've had stuff happen as well, where I can be feeling in the greatest and most,
you know, and then I'll brush past somebody and I can feel the negative energy straight away.
And I literally have to go away, sit down, recompose myself, and also I get attacked, not by,
well, I've produced the East part of the Draco regime, but the military side of things,
I get bused by black helicopters on a regular basis, and when they do,
I feel like they're targeting me with either RF or microwave energy.
Yeah, yeah, that's a common thing. So when you said you encountered them on Facebook,
you're talking about a Draco in human form. So, okay, you haven't actually encountered one
like you encountered the first benevolent one where you actually saw them physically,
like the royal Draco with the wings and stuff. No, no. Okay, so that, yeah, that doesn't surprise
me a number of I guess people like yourself are here or ET's in human form. I guess you could call
Star Seeds, but I think a lot, some people know they have a full memory of where they came from,
like you or maybe it comes back over time. Sometimes they're born with that memory.
Yeah, it took, it took some time to sort of like come back to me. But I do remember that I have family
on my home world. I remember one of my brothers actually got killed by one of the gang of Draco.
Oh, so you do have memories from that life. I guess that slowly bleeds through as you're
kind of tapping in and doing what you're doing on your mission.
I'll get a bit emotional when I think about it. No, it's okay.
It wasn't, you know, because I was still very young at the time it happened.
And, you know, I had to stand there and watch what I did to him.
At this rate, there wasn't much left of him after they had been.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, so this, this benevolent group, do they have a name for themselves?
Or do they just call themselves reptilians?
Yeah, we just call ourselves the benevolent real reptilian. And basically, you know,
we're here to spread peace, love and light. And also, we,
you know, people, people say about like, you know, the cattle mutilations and stuff like that.
And the reptilians were involved with that.
Now, our race is one like, basically, when I was growing up in my human body with my
earth family, my grandmother, she was an elderly lady. She was, you know, from back in the
World War II era, you know, she was, you know, my mum now is like 81. So, you know,
basically my grandmother, she lived like off the land, you know, basically because during
the World War II, obviously, you know, fruits and vegetables were very expensive, very hard to come
by, you know, green grosses, you know, and meeting everything was very ration, you know, it was like,
you had to survive on stuff like these tins of beef, fully beef or whatever they called it,
and powdered eggs and things like this, everything has a same expression. So, my grandmother,
she had a big house with a big garden, and literally she grew everything possible. She grew,
you know, soft fruits, hard fruits, you know, vegetables of all descriptions, you know, it was like,
literally, you couldn't walk in a house without something cooking or baking or whatever, you know,
she was always making cakes, making stews, making whatever. And, you know,
basically, our philosophy is that of living off of being as self-sufficient as possible.
You know, that is what people need to do, which unfortunately nowadays people don't even do
any of this nowadays, you know, they'd rather go to a supermarket and buy genetically modified
chemically enhanced meats and fruits and vegetables that don't even taste like fruit, you know.
You know, I remember, you know, going to a store, buying some tomatoes and tasting them, thinking,
these aren't tomatoes. I remember tomatoes, you know, proper tomatoes.
Right. Anyway, you know, it's like, um, basically, what we also did was, yeah, we,
we did do a thing where we did take some livestock off of some farmers, but we didn't do it without
giving us something in return. Basically, what we did, if we took, say, you know, a pair of cattle,
like a breeding pair of cattle or chickens or pigs or whatever, what we would do, we would give
the farmers family or the farmer himself gifts like, you know, say, for example, he had a young
daughter that was learning to play in musical instrument. We would give them the talent to be
successful in that or, you know, if there was an artist in the family or whatever, you know, we'd give them the
yeah, that's really, that's a really interesting concept. So, so basically they would, they would
take the cattle, but in exchange bless their daughter or whoever with a gift or whatever the gift
may be, something that will enhance their lives. Yeah, exactly. Wow. You know, I mean, if a farmer's land
wasn't, you know, producing crops that very well, you know, we would treat the crops and the land
to yield better crops. So, this brings me, this brings up an interesting question. So,
our, what's, what, what does the situation look like right now between them and the Draco that are
here now? I know because all this chemtrails and terraforming and the poisoning and everything
that that's happening, which we've heard from guys like William Tompkins comes from the reptilian
tankers. So, is there some sort of feud between them right now behind the scenes that we're unaware of?
Well, the, the, the benevolent side are
fighting the other side, yes. And we are basically counteracting what they're doing. I mean, yeah,
yes, you mentioned the chemtrails, but our side are using specialist laser equipment to neutralize
the chemtrails. So, if you may have noticed that, you know, there can be chemtrails one moment and
then the sky suddenly, please. Yeah, I have noticed that. Yeah. That's, that's, that's,
our side counteracting what they're doing. And also, you know, basically are, that, you know,
they are being gradually taken away and what they're doing is they're, they're trying to
with their last, you know, gas sort of thing, you know, they're trying to do as much damage
in their last throat as they can. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly. Yeah. I say that all the time. And like,
they, the words technically already one, it's just, they're trying to do as much damage on their
way out and take as many people with them on their way out. Yeah. I mean, basically people are
thinking, you know, I've had friends of mine saying to me that there's one guy, as I say,
a guy called Rich Thomas, he lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Now, he's had a lot of experiences
and signs and stuff, you know, you might want to get him on my show as well. But he,
he actually worked within the military. He's still got a natural like, you know,
was where they're not allowed to disclose an audio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not disclosed it.
You know, he's still got a couple of years left of that to run. But what he has told me is like,
you know, he actually worked within a department that was to do with linguistics and stuff.
And yeah, he's had some negative attacks and negative entities in his house. He was, he was actually
handed like an old music box from his family and found that it had negative energy inside it
from his family. I mean, because his dad obviously was in the military and everything as well.
And, you know, it makes me think, because he's he's phoned me, video called me,
basically in tears, he's he's been in a right mess, you know, like doesn't, he feels like, you
know, why me? And, and he said that he's had visions of earth burning. And I said to him, what
you're feeling and what you're experiencing is not what's going to happen. It's what they want
you to feel and what they want. You know, they're basically giving you negative attacks.
I said, you've got to find it. Yeah, I agree. So what have they or have they shown you anything
about our future or is that? Oh, yeah, they like show me, basically, it's like, are you
to be and it's like, you know, as I said to you before, about my grandma growing her own
fronts and vegetables and everything, you know, land is going to be more fertile again. You
know, people are going to have more space. Because, you know, the the areas where commerce and
stuff, it's going to happen isn't going to be as like, you know, a lot of people are going to
be working on the lines and stuff again. Yeah, I definitely feel that's the case. But right now,
obviously, everything just has to, I mean, the machine's going to consume itself until it's
just completely gone, you know, so and we're in that process right now. And and everyone's kicking
and screaming and a lot of people don't really understand the bigger picture. So they're still playing
off of that fear and, you know, loose harvesting off of that fear. So we have a little ways to go,
but definitely I agree. There's a bright future for sure. Are you are you in telepathic communication
currently? Like, do you know any of their names and like, where are they? Yeah, I'm in contact with
I've got a ship that looks at guards over me. And I mean, contact with the ship commander,
which is guard, G-A-R-R-G-H. And the chief engineer is called T-R-R-R-G-H.
And, you know, the chief engineer isn't just a little like engineer in respect to
the craft itself. He's also a hydroponics engineer growing fruits and vegetables and stuff like
that. And basically, even, you know, asked me what fruits and vegetables I can recommend and
things like that, you know. And this all happens telepathically, like through meditation or
it's just come the street telepathically. Wow, that's incredible.
Yeah, like, and I forgot to mention, as I said, when I was on the ship as well, I said that I
actually controlled this. They showed me how to control the ship, which basically
is like, by mind, but you have to have a physical connection to an interface like a pad on the
control desk. Yeah. And basically, it takes some concentration to actually use it, you know,
it's like, because you've got to focus on, you know, how fast you want to go which direction,
you know, which are within degrees. And that aligns with a lot of, a lot of testimonies.
And it's interesting, the hand thing, it's apparent that there is some sort of connect physical
connection. You put your hand inside of it and it's a mind connection, but it's also.
It's like a, it's like actually sort of like a living sort of like a biomechanical
I mean, and as well, the the actual, I should have actually sent you some of my images,
because the actual outside of the crab, when they're like cloaks, they can be cloaked to
blend in with any situation like, you know, you can have a clear sky. I've witnessed where I've
been looking up in the sky and I've caught a metallic clean out the corner of my eye.
And there's been no planes around, no plain noise or anything. I've just seen this green
and I've videoed it and I captured a craft cloaked. They gave me the tools, basically,
when I first started seeing things, they, they directed me to Play Store to these photo, specific
photo software and video software to enhance the pictures of off of the video that I take.
So I take screenshots and then I enhance them. I brighten them, sharpen them and then run them
through Filters and it unveils what's hidden. And basically, the outside of the craft,
if you imagine like you've got a circuit board for a computer, you've got the CPU unit,
you've got the graphics cards, everything's sliding to specific slots and you know, there's tracks
joined the various components. Now imagine the craft, the outside of the
pin of the craft may looks, you know, flat, but they can actually alter it to
emit different lighting patterns. They can emit changes of shape of the craft to fit in.
And if you've seen these people say, oh, it's just lenticular clouds.
Right. So I see, so they can make it like a certain cloud formation or could they even appear
as a black helicopter maybe, something like that if they wanted to?
Yeah, yeah. I've witnessed that myself. I've actually had at night time,
what they do is they can make it and sound like maybe like a police helicopter that's on patrol
and they'll just sort of like move around. But they don't move around like a police helicopter would.
And the lighting pattern doesn't quite sing right. And the sound definitely sounds like it's
like synthesized. Yeah, it's just enough to trick the the bystander into thinking that it's
just a helicopter, right? Yeah, I mean, the amount of people when I first started witnessing and
I put my post onto various groups on Facebook. I got ridiculed like I was told that I was crazy,
delusional. I was told that oh yeah, it's just a plane. You can see the you can see the navigation
lights and everything. And I say, and they say, I've had even like insane to me like, oh well,
why would aliens need navigation lights?
Well, imagine if you're out in the depths of space and you've got another craft that even though you
may have, you know, sensors that are way beyond sensors that we have hit it down here on earth,
there's still that risk of, you know, maybe one of the senses go down and you don't see a craft
in front of you or to the side of you. Or maybe though, or maybe those lights are part of the illusion.
Maybe that's part of what they're masking that they're showing you appearing. Yeah, right? Exactly,
yeah, it's like, you know, technology sort of thing, you know, yeah. Right.
Or there could be for a number of other things like that we can't even think about, you know. Yeah.
I mean, I've even had this, this is one that really gets me is I've actually witnessed where
I've seen a light appear and literally before I can get my phone cell phone out of my jacket pocket
to video or take picture within the second that light is gone. Yeah. One minute is bright,
one minute is bright light appears next minute is gone pink. Right. Yeah. So you mentioned in
a previous interview that your friend who's ex-military told you about some interesting
information in Antarctica. Would you mind sharing with our audience what she told you? Yeah, well,
unfortunately, you know, obviously with what happened with Facebook, I lost my account
and had to create a new one. So I've lost track touch with her now, but
basically she told me that because she's up to get where in the states they are now, but
she was actually stationed over in the UK for some time.
I'm a US Air Force Base, which is literally 60 miles away from me called
USAF Lake and Heath and Mildenham. And she was actually basically like a base cop like military police.
Anyway, now she was approached by somebody and they wanted her to go out to Antarctica.
And basically she turned it down because she knew there was stuff with the military room
boat without there. There was not, should we say, nefarious, you know.
And there was at the expense of what was going on underneath for
because Antarctica was actually one of the entrances to a golfer. Right. So
so I wish she told information about that. I mentioned to her about it and she seemed to know
already. Yeah. Oh wow. And so what is your opinion on why everyone is down there right now,
all all military from all over the world are down there and why, you know, the whole treaty and
everything. Well, they basically are trying to, you know, get technology that IE the crystals.
They try to get these crystals that we use for power out of earth. And they created this machine
which was according to them a neutrino detector to detect signals and whatever. But what they suddenly
happened to stumble upon was this neutrino detector wasn't able to just receive. It was able to
transmit. And so basically, you know, and it's just funny that, you know, it's not just the US
military that are there. You've got the British military, you've got the Chinese, Japanese,
whatever that. And you know, it's because it's like they're all trying to get hold of the crystals
before the challenge. Interesting. And there isn't. We know that there's, you know,
New Schwabbenland and the Reptilean bases and the Germans have been. And not see team double
with the Draco and they have bases. They've had bases there for a long time. And potentially,
the entrance to Hollow Earth, which, you know, they, who knows what that situation looks like
down there. It's just interesting. Well, there were like politicians years ago, a member would
on election day, he'd go into Antarctica and made no sense to anyone. They'd come up with some BS
cover that made no sense. Both Aldrin went down there, you know, all these people,
they're like, why are they all going to Antarctica? Well, they're going to get orders or be
connected with these things. When Kennedy got assassinated. Now, he was actually going to
spill the beans about the UFO and ET stuff they knew. And he was going to share it with the
Russians. And that's why he got assassinated. And then, and then it just seems that all these
presidents, you know, that know too much. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been on a podcast with
the Grand Daughter of Laura. I was an hour. Yeah. Well, she's speaking at our conference in two
months. We're good friends with Laura. Yeah. That's how I saw your interview with her. That's how I
know. Yeah. She's awesome. I love her. She's a great woman.
She's amazing. And I actually asked her, I'd say, you know, because there's been pictures circulating,
black and white pictures of Dwight with one of the graves. And I said to her, you know, I said,
all these actual genuine pictures. She went, well, the pictures aren't genuine. She said, but
it did happen. Right. Yeah. There was, there was definitely, I mean, there's so much
misinformation about what actually happened. And it's been elaborated on in so many ways.
It's become like a game of telephone at this point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's like with,
I watch the interview that basically there was Will Smith out of Medin Black and his son,
up to his son's name now. Is it Jayden or something? Yeah. Yeah. And they were being,
they were doing an interview with Barack Obama. And Jayden turns around to Barack and says,
to him, like, just out of the blue, do aliens exist? And Will Smith looked to him, went like,
I don't believe you just sent that to Barack Obama. And, and the look on Barrett's face,
he was like, you know, what's your say? Yeah. I remember seeing that. I forgot about it until
you said something. I did see that. Yeah. I was like, yeah, nice one. You know, it,
a kid, what was Barack going to say to a kid, you know, it's just also nice or the question.
Right. Right. I forgot what his reply was though. And you can tell they know things they're not,
they don't want to say. And, yeah. And you can tell you want to say yes in the library,
but they obviously can't. Well, the things that the presidents aren't even, they're like way,
way down the food chain. People think they're better. They're basically going to need to know
places from the military, you know, the military and more in charge of the law. Oh, yeah. And there's
these deep programs and things that are, they really have the real power. And they're dealing with
the T's and these technologies. And then, like for Eisenhower, for example, he was denied access
to, to Area 51. And he was like, who are you to tell me the president that I can't have access?
And they was, he threatened to bring the first army on Colorado to invade the base and take it over
because he was furious. Well, so by the time he was president, that power, the power was already
well out of the hands of the president, if it ever was. Right. So there's no way he could have made
a deal with the negative grays. He didn't have the authority to do that. That's why in 2012,
the deep state did it behind his back. It was funny. You just mentioned about Area 51 as well,
because the friend, the ex-military friend of mine was also saying that what she was actually
based at Grun Lake for a period. And there was a facility there called, I think it was called
S4. Now, she was under the impression that this area was like a supply area. You know, like
it could, I don't know, whatever supplies for the base or whatever. But it was funny that she
wanted to go into this S4. And she was basically told there is no way you will ever get into S4.
Right. Well, why don't I get into a storage facility?
Right. No, sorry, a supply facility. If that's all it is.
Yeah. And then she thought, hang on, she said, what if it wasn't supply? What if it was storage for?
Right. Right. Yeah. Either way, we understand that, you know, it's all locked down over there,
and it's all needed now. No, I've heard about contractors as well that have been there
to deliver stuff, you know. And there was, I think there was an incident where a delivery guy
had to make a delivery there. And he went through a wrong door that he shouldn't have gone through.
And basically, he was rushed by all the military police and told that you didn't say anything.
Yeah, that's wild. We hear all kinds of stories about that. And you know, everything's so
compartmentalized too. So compartmentalized. It's so on you to know there's so there's so many
little like essentially there's what's happened is everything became so compartmentalized.
And the the compartments with the most technology, the most advanced technology had the most power
because they can they can wield that power by force, right? And supposedly that's why, you know,
they can enforce keep that going because otherwise, yeah, the president then could get the military
to invade and just in for but that they don't those compartments don't have the technology to do
that these other hidden compartments do. And they've become these like breakaway unaccountable
to anyone else compartments, right? So that's that's you know about the latest the latest thing with the
the AARO, the old domain aerial. Yeah. Yeah. This new system that they bring in into
identify an ominous phenomenon called Gremlin. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm you know I'm
quite so like intrigued why why pick a name Gremlin. Well, right. It's the same reason they name
everything else the way they name it. Why did they call the monster energy drink with a six six six
right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And why does the why is there exactly. And why does the Disney castle have
all the Masonic symbols on right? Right. Why is the why is Washington DC laid out in an
inverted pentagram layout? What you know, they go down the list. There's so many things. Yeah.
So you mentioned something about the Georgia Guides Stones and CERN.
Yeah. I was actually in touch with a guy who had encounters with the grays. I can't remember
whether it's all grades or the short grades anyway. But he was doing a podcast and I watched it
and during the podcast he mentioned about the the Georgia guide stones being destroyed.
And basically he said that that was the grays warning about because they were starting to ramp up
um the energy with CERN the Hadron Collider. And basically that was there sort of like
warning so that like you guys don't know what you're messing with and stop what you're doing.
Well, what were they concerned with? What would happen with CERN? Well, if they if they keep
wrapping up the energy with CERN they're going to basically create a rift.
It's a base time. Yeah. We're below the planet or you create a giant black hole that sucks in
everything. You know, there's a number. Yeah. I think there's a reality to that that most people
aren't willing to accept and a lot of people are willing to call bullshit on. But I think that's
the whole game here reading the sands of time books that we've been talking about lately.
Sean David Morton's books. It's all about the early time travel experiments and then literally
creating tears in the space time continuum in our in our reality in our universe and opening
portals to other dimensions and allowing things in and and losing control over our airspace,
our planet, our atmosphere. And well, yeah, go ahead. It was fun because uh,
saying about portals because a friend of mine sent me a video where it was of a
a movie from symposium. And now he was talking about this engineer guy, a draftsman that worked
within the military. I forget the guy's name now. But this guy was tasked with reverse engineering.
Craft and technology. And they were saying basically that the way that to this guy that was doing
the symposium, basically, that the technology that we know about currently,
we are a thousand years ahead of that. Yeah. As it stands right now, we have the capability and the
craft to go to the center of our galaxy within 45 minutes. Yeah. And also the Pentagon has a portal
to the moon, which by the way is not a moon that is, you know, a planet. It's a actual craft
within side of all. Sure. That's a command center. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's very
interesting. And literally this portal to the from the Pentagon to the moon, they can leave the
Pentagon being the moon in five minutes flat and then have a meeting in the moon and then be
back in five minutes again. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's that information is also covered in the
stands of time series. But the Pentagon also has a below ground at the Pentagon actually has what
you could call housing for extraterrestrial ambassadors and people of that nature. And there is
very much a portal there from from there to the moon and from area 51 and a number of other
bases, basically with their time runner technology, when they when they make a jump, when they
when they make any sort of jump from one location to another, it opens a portal that's protected,
but that's protected by the technology, the energy field that the technology that they've developed.
I mean, look at what happened with the Miami moon grid, Sydney. Right. Yeah. That's interesting.
Well, apparently that was a case of a missed dialed location. Basically, if you take the coordinates,
the map coordinates for the Miami moon, and you turn the numbers the opposite way,
right? It comes up with Antarctica. Yeah. I saw someone say that and yeah, it makes I mean,
it makes sense. Maybe it was an accident or maybe someone deliberately
set it that way to cause that incident. And then obviously we had the incident in the backyard of
Vegas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a number of things happening right now. And I think on some
levels, all being allowed. I just watched watching TV the other day and I filmed a UFO and live
TV. And I put it on Facebook. I mean, come on. Like that we're watching golf. How often is that
happen? And I think they're the ones with the goals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So
yeah, just clears day in the background going back to what I was saying about the portals,
the jump rooms. So whenever they so they can create a jump room anywhere they want, at one
state, once if they're in a location in a base and they decide to make a jump from that location
to the moon, that is now a permanent, they can, anyone can use that portal now. You can
essentially call it and it's open, but it's protected now because of their technology. In the
early days, they didn't know how to protect it and they would create a tear and it would create all
types of time distortions and Mandela effects. And somebody would make a jump. It could actually
have a huge change. It could make, it could make a significant change in our timeline or a very
subtle change in our timeline, depending on the circumstances, right? So a lot of the Mandela
effects, actually, all of them, in my opinion, are from this technology being used in the early days
without them actually understanding what they were doing. I mean, it's quite sort of like,
you know, growing up with the early days of Star Trek when you could see the strings suspended
the Enterprise and all that sort of stuff and Dr. Who and all the technology that they were
portraying back then, you know, you look at Star Trek in the, when they had the communicator,
which was basically like a flip phone. Right. And then all of a sudden, along comes a motor
owner flip phone that looks like the Starship too, you know, communicator. Yeah. Right. And on,
you know, years later, you know, if somebody had said to you like back in the 16th, like, hey,
we're going to have phones that you can access the internet, you can take high resolution videos,
you can take pictures with them like a like a film camera, but without film, you know, people
that think you were crazy. Right. Right. That's what I'm talking about all this stuff in the 19,
teens and 20s. You know, he's like, oh, yeah, there would be wireless communication. I mean,
even the internet started out, the internet actually started out not as, you know, not
we didn't have access to the internet, but guess who had the internet access to the internet?
And what was it called? It was called DARPA net. Right. Right. Right. It was a DARPA.
It was the defense, uh, advanced research projects. Yeah. Right. You know what else, you know,
what else was a DARPA creation Facebook? It was cool. Life, it was called LifeLog and the day
they say LifeLog ended, it's the day that Facebook was created. It was just LifeLog renamed as
Facebook and released to the public. Right. Um, and DARPA, like you said, also just created the
internet in general. Um, and I'm sure there were, you know, supposedly the enough for nefarious
purposes for what they're, they wanted to use for their agendas, but the only way they could do
that was to release it publicly. And luckily, you know, it's been flipped on them and used
actually to help the awakening and to help us all connect and expand our consciousness.
So is there any last words that you would like to leave us with any messages from your benevolent
group of reptilians that you would like to leave our audience with before we wrap this up?
Yeah, um, basically to, you know, keep positive, um, you know, not that negative energy take you down.
Um, there is hope on the horizon, um, you know, and to, you know, try and, um, even if you only have
like a window box or something, maybe try and grow some fruits or vegetables of you. You know,
you know, um, and watch what you eat, um, because a lot of the stuff out there is modified by, um,
a company called Monsanto, which is part of the Rothschild dynasty, um, and, um, you know,
also what I will say is to, um, you know, try and help anyone that you can,
um, in any way possible, you know, be kind to each other, unite with each other. Um, you know,
if somebody's struggling like, I mean, I've had good friends of mine help me out because, um,
just before Christmas, actually, the powers that be decided that, um, I was no longer
serious enough disability to, uh, to, uh, get my disability payment. Um, I had a phone review,
which I was holding my condition, it got worse, not better. And then I get a letter through, um,
um, as of the 18th of December, 2023, we cannot pay you this, uh, your PIP disability because your
condition is improved. So I'm waiting now, um, for a, um, an appeal of that. Um, so basically,
now me and my partner are surviving on one benefit, um, which out of that has to, um,
as to come rent, um, utilities, everything else. We're left with basically nothing. And,
you know, the powers that be, you think this is fine, you know, to treat, uh, people like that.
Um, but I've had some very good friends that have been awesome and helped out with financial help,
even in the States and in Canada, you know, I, I, I can't, you know, I was beginning to think that,
you know, there aren't any decent human beings left about, but with people acting and showing
me kindness like they have, you know, I, it's restored my faith in humanity a lot. Um,
and more people need to help each other. You know, if somebody is struggling, help them out.
It's like I was just watching earlier, um, a guy on YouTube has been going around, um, basically,
um, you know, getting people to make food for the homeless and, um, because me and my partner were
homeless for four months during COVID, we were in a two-mountain in a park and, um, back in 2021,
we got, uh, you know, back into private rent, and that's where we are now.
Yeah, I agree. And that's beautiful when people come forward and, and the help is out there. If you're,
if you're willing to receive it, you know, a lot of people think they can do it on their own and,
and we're all here to help each other. So when you start speaking your truth and sharing your
story, you never know who's going to show up and what opportunities will present themselves. So,
uh, that's a beautiful message to end with. And yeah, and when you need help, don't, do not be
afraid to ask for help. And like you said, I do believe there are way more, uh, loving humans and
beautiful humans that will help you when they see you in need, um, and there are people that won't.
I was actually given the gift of, um, of ESP and empathy and I can, I can read people, um,
and, uh, I can feel their energies and everything. And, you know, I, I can feel you guys right now,
um, through the, through the phone. And I can tell that you guys are the most loving
caring people out there. And, um, you know, I'm, I'm glad to have your friendship and it's just a
shame that, you know, I'm across the pond from you guys, uh, otherwise I'll be over there giving
you a great big hug. And that's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. And, and likewise,
likewise, it feels the same. And yeah, one day we'll all unite. That's definitely for sure.
We'll always be like, yeah, it won't always be like this. We'll be able to, you know, teleport
right over there and hang out, get some lunch and come back. Exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean,
the more we can unite and come together and love the quicker we can manifest this beautiful
new reality. We, we, we, we get it up, we get it up, set the air on, so you know, creating pools and
stuff. Right. Right. Exactly. Um, well, thank you so much for joining us. This has been,
this has been great. Yeah. Thank you for doing what you do and sharing these beautiful messages
and keep up to great work. We really appreciate it. Is there anywhere that people can find you
or follow you that you'd like to let our audience. Um, find me on Facebook on the night of
MP. You'll see my ugly mug and in my cover photo, we've got a picture of our white cat ghosty
who was a stray and we, we took him in and rescued him as well. So, you know, we took him off
the street like we took ourselves off the street. You know, um, yeah, can look, find me on there.
I've also got my own UFO group, which is called exposing the UFO slash UAP reality.
Um, and I'm also trying to set up my own YouTube channel, um, undercar, um, which is my actual
rip to the name is K, I double, I triple off, triple off. Oh, wow. Um, you know, and if there's
anybody out there who wants to add me as a friend, do please. Well, that's great. Thank you.
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It's something unpredictable. But in the end, that's right.
I hope you had the time of your life.
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