Episode 124 - All in the BETA

0:00Slightly above average gamers way above average podcast welcome to the slightly above average gaming podcast with your hosts J 007 TV and sub one Katie All right cool hopefully we're up hopefully it's working today We're always so hit and miss on whether it works the first time we pay for the shit to Yeah, the well, up. Let's dig right on Twitter. That's good. And how's Twitch to make me weekly complaint about how hard it is to share From Twitter or from Twitch. I mean Stop desert. No, where are you? What up desert desert join us live on Twitch Sharing this I can't believe we're at episode 124 already We should be like 200 by now, but close to yeah, I mean I say that but yeah, you're right We should be a lot further along, but that's all right You know, it's it's funny because and I'm sure we'll probably talk about this

1:03But it's like you know, you kind of lost your passion for cod this last year, right? Like last year and a half and and and it's funny, you know in looking at the timeline and some of the conversations I'd say we're fucking back because we haven't had a lot of these conversations over the last year I haven't chirped it anybody on the internet in a while not in the same way that we're having now over a beta That's a lot of fun. I'm you know The beta is interesting. I made a video yesterday. I might have to make a correction. We'll see Hit that jingle and let's get into it Yes, let's do get into it. Yo, welcome everybody to episode 124 of the slightly above average gaming podcast I am J 007 TV coming at you live from my air fryer within his Texas because 109 degrees today, which was a record and the record yesterday was 108 or 109 so two days in a row

2:07Yeah, and I'm joined as always by the homie sub one KD where it's probably 70 degrees Absolute absolute score. It's like 80 is 80 today. Oh, that's fucking awesome dude. I can't wait until I can't wait until hoodie weather dude Like that's all I'm gonna say like hoodie weather soups and chili and just Shit like that. It's gonna be awesome sweet. Yeah, no, it's one of those weeks where it's like For us to keep you know, you gotta remember I'm not I'm kind of apart from the rest of California lots of parts of California, broil they do you know They don't really sustain a hundred seven like you it's not quite so bad, but like you know 98 99 100 like very normal things for us. That's like once a year for one day for like an hour Yeah, you get that down in like Palm Springs and Death Valley and you know like that area Yep, what we do get though. I'll tell you what we do get which is pretty cool Smoke from the fire down a big sir

3:09Oh really Yeah, I just kind of roll it in But I mean it's not too bad to stay in mostly in the valley. We're not getting hit too hard with it But yeah, it's not my favorite getting a little Getting a little Little rough on the weather wise Yo, JT coming in with the prime resub what up homie Wow Literate feedback a literate yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we should probably address that well actually We'll be addressing a lot of that as as we go a literate Because we're gonna talk about a lot of things first and foremost, you know The the beta how did the beta we can go for you? Um Not bad Found her mode that I like found a new mode that like we haven't talked about this mode yet We're gonna talk about modes. We're gonna talk about modes But so I actually despite whatever issues were in there playing this mode actually really caught me

4:12Off guard because I enjoyed it a lot and it wasn't The mode everybody thinks I'm gonna say because that mode just did not work for me like literally I couldn't get through a match As you know, we tried to use it I was 0 for 9 trying to finish a match of this mode so I was thrilled about that. I don't know how I haven't mentioned that on On the Twitter Twitter's world, but yeah, that was fun But otherwise no, I had a pretty good time Especially compared to previous things, but one thing I do want to touch on first first and foremost Do I need a rebrand? No, yeah, why I'm gonna get this let me get this up take some minute to upload I've been learning to use this program the software we use it's got some cool features I'm gonna throw this up if you're watching should I rebrand I kind of like the logo Don't off that

5:14Kind of like that. I don't mind it I'm gonna go ahead and say No No, no, yeah, that's just me. Hey listen, it's I see how it is Keep in mind dude. I'm a simple guy. I fucking got the same logo that I've had for a long time So you know, it is what it is But no, that's awesome, but I see you've been putting out A few videos here and there and that's I mean honestly dude That's good to see for me because that to me tells me you're you're kind of starting to get a little locked in Again, you know, well, and I mean let's let's be real dude. It's been tough having a podcast the last year um not undueable, but tougher when Half of us aren't you know, you're not playing the game and I am you know what I mean like it makes it It makes it a little bit more challenging, right? Because well the reason we took like weeks off of this podcast

6:15Yes, I just had I have here's the thing if I have nothing good to say about it I'm just not gonna talk about it. It's not like raging on things just isn't my style Like if there's something stupid that pops up that's worth it for like one shot fine. I'll take the shot sometimes but like you know Well established that jetpack movement Cods are not my thing And therefore Black ops 7 was not my thing even though it didn't have jetpacks, you know, it felt close enough I just didn't care for it So it's like I didn't play it. I just didn't I didn't talk about it And that made it hard it really did make it hard mw4 I did play the beta um and so there's a lot to talk about A lot to talk about I think Um, but looking at the list that we came up with You played it we we actually first time in a probably over a year we played together briefly. Yeah

7:17um But I know you played it So what was your what was your highlight on this um well, I mean just overall I mean I I I'll say this first of all it's a beta and I didn't really see any Um huge technical issues with with the game um there are some Oh my god. There are some things that um That you know or or my or irritating but I don't want to say that they're make or break At this point um it feels like and and I'm not the only one that said this But it does feel like some of the penalties that were in modern warfare 2 are in this game in some ways And that's irritating um, but I mean overall I'm I'm excited for you know Just like I guess after two years of black ops, which I like I like both I'm one of the ones that likes both franchises um I'm just ready for something new and I think um and Infinity War did a fairly decent job

8:21But they still have some things they got to take care of okay So Visually, I mean yeah, it looks great. I got no complaints about it now. Oh, so I want to I want to clarify This is weekend one right. This is the invite only period um I played this deliberately. I want to be clear So so everybody understands where I came from playing this. I played it on the Xbox series X Okay, I played it with no audio massing no tunes no adjustments Straight on my television 75 inch 4k Okay, um, so you played like a dad basically I played like a dad Tomorrow next weekend I am going to play on my Jolopy of a PC 99 50 x 3d 50 80 All the bells and whistles

9:23With full tune like I'm going to push it to the competitive limit And we'll see if things feel different but um but going forward So when I talk about my experience, I want to be clear that that's where it's coming from right so it's so I wasn't on a PC I wasn't on it no audio tunes no no color filters nothing crazy, okay Mine was on a PC and and and one thing that I did different and then I will be doing different this title I'm going back to um, I'm going back to the battle net Try it the the Xbox PC pass app for call duty for whatever reason was just a shit show for me last year I had several times where I wasn't able to get updates done I had to reinstall probably three times last year and you know how big the game is and how long that takes like it just It didn't really work for me. So I will likely never buy another game Through that game pass again

10:26Fair I don't have a ton of issues with the Xbox Pass on PC But I've got to make some choices because we do have to buy it this time around if we're gonna keep playing um and As as you know, I do switch back and we're sold probably put it on Xbox. I assume by one to play both Both places is going to be true on this one the first party game so I can't imagine they would gate gate the Xbox Uh PC version, you know, it'll be a play everywhere. So I got to double check that but that's my expectation I'll also add that that whole free thing through the game pass was short lived and if I remember correctly I may or may not have mentioned that that was probably not a very good idea when it first came out didn't I? I feel like we had this conversation Well, you know if netflix for video games is profitable there'd be more than one competitor doing it

11:28sure That's true You know Total tangent if they ever figure out how to make streaming work for video games like legitimately work That'll probably be a a difference does that make sense you know it's coming though I mean dude all these studios are going to just digital format only so it's only logical that that what you're talking about will be coming down the pipe You know, but Infra I'll tell you what right now infrastructure is not there Sure and we just saw um the FCC cut The high speed bandwidth threshold from a gig down 100 megabytes per second which I don't think it's gonna cut it And if they aren't pushing that Zero chance that's gaming over stream is going to take off in the foreseeable future. So we'll see um

12:30I just I just don't see it on anything but you know, maybe single players it'll be viable for but multiplayer stuff like Codd will never work Um reliably. I'll say that um I think there's too many factors involved with with trying to make that work It's um latency on hardwires hard enough much less You know fine game Well, dude, how's it like 25 milliseconds yesterday? You know on war zone a lot of times I sit between three and eight Well shit, I was that I probably ruined it for you by the way probably probably pulled you to a weird You were at like 80 something you said yesterday Yeah, probably accounted for a couple of my deaths and then the crashing was just yet So all right, so let's talk about the graphics right I I will go down the list here. I think the graphics and everything seems bright to me which is kind of I feel like a little bit of a change from um modern warfare to and um

13:31and and uh modern warfare 2019 Because if you notice the color palette on a lot of those maps was more like dread almost drab I guess Whereas like this is south it's fucking South Korea dude. It's popping. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got signs electronics cafes bars all that shit. It's I mean it is popping and I think it's it's bright And I I think it's a good change, but it's not cartoony though They were able to do it where it's not cartoony like say like the Treyarch titles are yes It does strike it does match the Korean atmosphere very well the one map specifically in um Is that silkworm? Yes silkworm looks great beautiful map. Yeah The graphics are great. I'm going to complain about one thing and I don't know what the correct fixes on this Player visibility is trash the ability that and part of this is the detail and um the absolute just depth of texture that they give

14:35The the set piece that that you're playing in that they give the map But player characters are disappearing into the fucking background and I cannot find them on a regular basis like it is so hard uh how much that is optics though like the You know what I mean like because I think right now you know like a one or two zoom optic on anything I mean, I'm losing people 25 meters in front of me Like they're just they're they're Sometimes it's like they're the width they're like there's a gray SWAT operator um And they'll stand in front of a tin fence on the car map sometimes transit um um And that's going to be absolutely Mr like it's just It's not that you can't see them. It's that at first glance you go right past them because they just kind of blend in and then I see them like oh shit And then I'm dead

15:37And we'll talk about why I then I'm dead happens immediately afterwards a bit later, but um I think that's the biggest gripe that I have I think the maps look great I don't have a problem with how the maps look. I think they're they're well crafted visually Compared to past Games I thought the detail was better um the last few games um The the gun models for example have lacked detail a lot of the different character models have not Detailed out well soaps haircut aside um Now is captain price haircut price whoever was somebody somebody's haircut is soap is dead r.i.p allegedly um But yeah, no, it's it's just a different Like it's it's a break from triark, which is nice um, I think they look it Graphically I have no complaints. It looks great on the the Xbox. I assume it's going to look even better on the PC

16:37um But I don't have any like any specific complaints aside from the fact that I just I'm losing keep I'm losing characters in the damn In the damn background. Did you so I think it was Alex put out graphics settings on his on his twitter um and I I didn't change any settings the one thing I I will say this I did change one thing I got in my first match and I'm like this is slow as fuck what the fuck is going on I feel like I'm running in like Quick-sand and I went and I checked and my FOV was at like 95 so I bumped it all the way up Yeah, I want to step hey hey they got rid of past gen so they don't have to start a beauty anymore Yeah, I bought I bumped it I bumped it up to 120 and that what that was fine, but I think overall the graphics are fine minus you know I agree with what you're saying like you do kind of miss things and and one thing and I don't know this is a graphics thing or not but like

17:37Man, and I don't know if there's ever a fix for it. It's really Suck sometimes when you see a blue dot over Over somebody that you think is a friendly and then it turns out it's a fucking enemy like that shit Like I'm seeing blue dots through buildings. I'm like, oh, that's a friendly. Nope. Get killed. I think there's a strong Yeah, Yankee will talk about that in a minute Um, I I think there's a strong strong stuff to write word A A more common than I would prefer Instance where either again the depth of the map the the The life they bring to the map which is great visually Interfears with it. So I've run into that before where they they pass under a light or an led bar or something That is you know the color of whatever The name tag is over the over the you know over an enemy or over a friendly And it just obscures the name tag right so it's like I look at it and at that instant glance I just see the right color for for me not to have to worry about them and then I go and I shoot at

18:39You know, I go to shoot somewhere else and I get shot from the enemy that I just stared at and then like didn't do anything with So I know I'm on somebody's tiktok somewhere being like look at the bots in this game. And I mean maybe that's true But for crying out loud. I look at it. I'm like You look like you're on my team or I didn't see you at all until it was too late Um So I think they got to find a way and if I remember right mw3 like they did like a little bit of a shadowing or something They did something that kind of like vaguely highlighted the enemy When you when you you know, I had them on the crosshair. I think they're gonna have to do something like that down the road Especially since they've kept the skins more realistic Um and grounded which You know is what it is I Like that. I really do. I'm sorry, but I know I know it's a man But I like that. I can't fucking see anybody half the time like that's the problem with grounded skins And and I know it cuts both ways because there have been times that I've jumped on somebody and they just

19:43I can tell that they don't see me Immediately and it takes them a second to figure out where the hell they're getting shot from and then they're dead um So I know it cuts both ways and I and I think this is something that most people skip when they critique stuff like this and we'll talk we'll talk about this on ttk2 is that There are definitely moments where It works in my favor in addition to against me It's not like the rose skin where it's like it's very one-sided if you have it It's advancing to you if you don't have it you're not advantaged right Like there's just different scenarios and different times and different instances where it works against you and for you So I want to acknowledge that However, it's still fucking annoying as shit I think I think both things can be true right like we can have both things be accurate Sure, and if not you're on the wrong podcast probably um But yeah, no visually it's great. I have no complaints. Um, I mean

20:45I haven't really had any complaints any real complaints visually in terms of like their ability to craft a game In it's seen years like they've all looked good. Let's be honest. They've looked good for like Years and they hold up well black ops one which I've been playing a bunch of doesn't look good. It's fucking old man There's a difference Yeah, but no, I think I think infinity did did a good job on that and and I'll also Dude my first day on there. So I was gone friday right I went down to Staten new Bronfels and went to the oldest dance hall in Texas that was built in the 1800s 1830 or some shit like that and saw a band play down there. So I missed friday. I came back Um saturday and I wasn't sure what I was gonna do Whether I was gonna pre-order it or not just because we got some shit coming up, you know like priorities, right? Being called being an adult, but I was lucky enough to

21:48Someone sent me a code so shout out to pro raise for sending me a code that he got So I was able to play it this weekend. So I loaded it up saturday and I played it and got absolutely fucking destroyed for Probably the first two hours I played the game It was fucking awful um in in that regard. I I did awful, but it's still I mean I still had a good time It was nice getting the squad up with people. I will say this I feel like they've I feel like the server balance was better and I don't know if it's because they put a little more transparency into where you're going Which was which was nice to see it was nice to know where you're going and where you're ending up and kind of why compatible servers, you know like the the relative pains to the different servers you were being Offered got on a few paid attention when it's search searching Yeah, um, so I think that's a nice to a little bit of transparency if it's true or not. I don't know But you know just visually being reaffirmed that you're going into a good place comparatively is is nice

22:51um But I do think it is it is it is affecting the regionality more because Your servers played very different than my servers do when I play when I solo queue in When I played with you it was definitely a different mix of players Then I normally would run it was running into on just the pacific, you know west or south west I think we played mostly on the south east servers and that was a little rough on Saturday afternoon Yeah, and and then you factor in also the skill level of those guys too, right like those guys are fucking eerie players so and a lot of the Oh, we got to keep in mind that a lot of the game time is going to have been logged by content creators and In their players. I think it's I think it's worth noting that It's not the open beta so a lot of you know, I mean there were still a lot of people playing but there's still but I think the numbers Compared to hopefully next weekend

23:52The numbers weren't Were very skewed towards the high end so I think all the lobbies were more difficult than they should be Um or would be normally under conditions. So I think that's a factor that's not being just not being included in spmm conversations um that's a good point But um but I want to talk about one thing that Activision as a whole every studio every fucking one of these guys has done this Why is it nine hours of work to set the settings in this game? Why did I have to spend most of my available time on day one configuring 7 million settings To be able to jump in and play the fucking game What I want to know There are literally I counted them. I think there are 32 pages of settings. I didn't change anything but f of e It's a good issue on my part, I guess but like and that's on

24:55on console Going through to I I highly I highly disagree unless you have settings carried over from them from the other game and it's just loaded those up because That means you're playing with weapon blur that means you're playing with motion blur that means you're playing with All these other things that would make that you know your ability to play the game well Not great. That's the way excuse. I'm gonna go with I had yeah Fucking weapon blur and everything no, but I tell you what I did have a lot of and I'm not the only one And I don't know why and this isn't an i w thing, but I do not know why they insist on putting so much Fucking blur and just bullshit at the end of the muzzle dude Like you can't see what you're shooting at after a certain point like there I thought about actually going back to m&k on this game and playing some Fuck no, I'm not doing that. Why would I do that? That'd be crazy. I

25:58Didn't and maybe that I didn't see a lot of weapon of of blur. I'm looking at I'm looking right now and I just don't What most of the device were you running any of them? It's just a lot of it's more like the shake right Like and I don't mind like a little recoil or whatever. That's fine because I feel like that's kind of a skill gap thing But like it's just fucking like there's just so much shake I mean, I just don't see any Abstract a little bit of shake. It's a little bit. I just don't see it like I'm looking I'm watching it I'm watching a clip for those at home. I'm watching a clip of myself shooting and I just don't see The blur and maybe maybe it's a piece of maybe next week if I'm on PCL. I'll have a different story Um, but like let me hear let me clip you this one And send it to you because I just don't see Like I just don't see the same now mw2

26:59Pons of smoke like I remember a couple of clips where it's like you know You have two guys shooting in a room and it's like the room is filled with smoke It's like someone threw a smoke grenade into the room, right? Like That was a thing and your God was going like this and like yeah, and it was just like seizure inducing but I Don't it it has some shake. I could I can I'm all for reducing it like Reducing the shake um, I do want to clear that there's no bloom. So that's good um But I just don't see like see it so let me go It bought it bothered me like I picked up on it and and here's the thing too So I feel like this kind of goes in with with jays common here about there being negativity on twitter They're there yes, there is some negativity, but I think we need to step back a second though Not everything just because something is critical that doesn't mean they're being negative, right?

28:04Like I can be critical about certain parts of the game that disappoint me like the bloom if they had it or the weapon shake or You know being able to reload and sprint at the same time or slide nadius at the same time without being negative on the game as a whole right Like it's just a matter of what's important to Um each person I guess um, so you know, I think I I wouldn't say it's all 100% negative I think I think there's there it's it's a mixed bag I think they're trying to fucking thread the needle again They're trying to split between Sweats and guys that fucking are gonna play three hours a week You know, they're definitely trying to do that because they took away your so like and I I can't stand this you get into a fight And you're trying to reload and move at the same time And if you move too fast it cancels your reload and I'm like you son of a bitch

29:05Like god damn it See well and I first noticed that though That wasn't actually I w that did that first if I remember correctly That was actually sledgehammer for vanguard with the vanguard weapons I remember how frustrating that would be fighting in those fucking huts on caldera and trying to reload and I couldn't because I'm moving Like that shit was annoying as fuck You know, so they did put that back in so yeah, I Yeah, I mean I think they're trying to find a balance and I've said this look I've said this many times on this channel in in mine I believe wholeheartedly that they don't know what the hell they want and what they want to do Um, I don't know what I don't think that they know what kind of game they want to make and this is Activision across the board. This is not this is just call of duty It is not triark or iw specific and it's because they let black ops go off the rails

30:07And then try to follow it up and now they have a crowd of people that wants wall banging Jetpacks and all that shit Um, and then they have people that want traditional call of duty and those two things are not compatible and you know instead of acknowledging that they have two different franchises that they're trying to like Make everybody happy with They just keep making decisions that piss off half their audience at minimum And oftentimes more than half because they're trying to compromise between the two and it's just It's a That is it is like threading a needle With a damn popsicle stick. It's just in kind of happen Well, and again my contention is is that a large portion of the people they try to cater to when they dump these games down We're not going to continue playing anyway You know, so in my mind why why do that right? But i'll say this i'm a little higher on this game than i thought i would be because i With what iw did with modern warfare too and also the impact that had on on war zone

31:11Dude i i i'm actually surprised i feel the way i feel about this game I want to play a clip and i want you to look at it because this is what i'm talking about where i don't I don't see like this muzzle smoke like this disruptive Game ending thing So let me let me run it real quick now i was playing like shit. Did you brace there? No, i just duck behind the car and pop back up That's just i mean i saw a lot of shake a little bit But they know i'm just talking about the muzzle smoke like i don't see it like i don't This shit Yeah, i mean there's a little bit And you know sucks to be masan key no doubt but um I just don't see like like so you know when i look at that and i look at like um Monor warfare too right like totally different games Um yeah, i i just don't i don't see the complaint being as catastrophic as people put it and you know again

32:17Maybe maybe on pc it feels different maybe better graphics better better things you know better setup um Because there is a there is a felt difference between the two i'm not gonna say there's not and there's definitely going to be a graphics processing difference So maybe it's one of those things where they cut out a lot of extras on xbox to make it run better Um that they that they include on pc So maybe i get that same boat on pc and there's too much smoke i can't keep on target I can't find the the third guy in that man. I only get you know one or two or instead of the three of them That'll be worth visiting next week like that'll be you know on monday because if you're gonna play on pc I mean you very well could be i mean or fuck dude it could be a skillage you on my part I don't know you know um the uh the shake is definitely there I There are there are probably some kills that i lost because the gun is moving and i'm trying and here's the thing right when you're when you're not a masan key And this is kind of the opposite problem that battlefield has With with bloom right and mw2 had with bloom is that

33:21When you when you shoot your gun the model is moving it's not always um When the model is moving itself right but the bullets are still going where you point them That's not as bad. It's a visual issue But if you learn to look past it and you're just like Kind of more aiming at the target aim assist will take the wheel for better or for worse um However, I think When you have the gun that is staying more or less on target and bullets just don't go where you fucking point them Like how do you deal with that right like It's just it's one of those Senate it i don't know You know what i'm saying? It's just one of those things where it's like one of them is significantly worse than the other And i think that they've you know in modern warfare two had both if you remember it had bloom and shake so the so you had no idea where shit was going Right what um so i mean we kind of skipped a hit we're kind of into the weapons what did you think of

34:28um What did you think of the weapon progression of the weapon progression Probably the best innovation Call of duty is had in ten years bar none Absolutely brilliant I think anything's gonna look good after playing battlefield six And that weapon progression to me i think in terms of how long What weapon progression Jesus i don't have a single gun maxed out Yeah, I have like 200 and something hours and not one fucking gun is maxed out So What weapon progression um that being said the for anybody who didn't catch who hasn't caught in the uh the notes or wants to click notes on it The way they're doing weapons this shares each weapon has an ugly number of levels 68 i think on average Um give or take However Unlike in the past where you have

35:28either the same 57 you know optics that you have to unlock on every single gun as you progress through it Or even worse every gun adds its own 57 optics to the damn Pool so you end up with seven million optics by the end of the first season um The guns predominantly share attachments which they did in mw2 Uh or introducing mw2 However When you get to a level for the weapon That has those things unlocked You just skip the level So you don't need to level 68 levels times 10 guns Every time you max a gun you're going to unlock levels on future guns So every time there's overlap You actually trim the number of levels. I think jgod maxed out Two ares and the next a r

36:30Only had like 17 levels to do it skip the rest So solves two problems in my opinion one is the plethora of optics And the other is the just senseless grind to unlock the same fucking thing you've unlocked 72 times already at that point Well that'll help the people and you know I've always said that that's an issue for people who don't hardly play the game um You know not being able to to max out weapons and make sure you know with with the meta shifts and things like that So I think that'll probably help with that Did you notice the blueprint thing though if you hit the right trigger? Did you notice that where it's like short range long range balanced? It'll build your blueprint That's fucking badass. I like that a lot RIP cut me nitty and true game data Yeah, sorry. Well, Tony said he that's all on twitter. He said he's not even playing as many as many As much call a duty But um, yeah, and I mean I just I don't know I like that. I switched to one of those I switched to on the m4 the balanced one

37:36and um, I start it was an iron site build with uh, I don't know what that barrel is and then a suppressor and Man, it was it was nice. I stayed on the Han 87 86 whatever it was Um, yeah, I like that. It was fun. It was good Um, had a lot of fun with the shotgun. I have a great force. I don't know if I sent it to you Um, had a great how to great couple clips with that um Could turn the burner and some guys uh, I didn't play with the m4 as much as I'd have liked to I just The early build giant crate and so I didn't invest in it. I just kept doing the hon The thing that I picked up every chance I got and I am in love with and I hope they didn't ruin for next week Cast off Holy smokes that was fun to run holy shixie was clapping with it and I've seen some other people talking about it too I think it's good right my I just Absolutely slammed a couple of kids with it

38:36um I'll say this. I don't know what it is about the beta That brought this out on people and maybe it's just Everyone's trying to make you know caught challengers But what's with people running three and four stacks in six v six in a fucking beta Like dude, it's time for like turn the corner and there's like four people stacked up I might get one of them, but I'm like getting Swiss cheese every which way Dude the TTK is so fast too that you can it's hard to fucking one v two or one v three even Yeah, it's the only way to one v if it's if it's a longer TTK in your face in three guys You're not gonna get any of them you're gonna get smudged necessarily true if you can move But like if you're taking if you die after like five fucking rounds Because there were times I because you know you can see the round count And I think that where you were getting shot was probably wrong in the beta But you can see the round count of how many rounds it took for you to die

39:40Um, so you know, I feel like the TTK is a little too fast. I would I I think adding You know another 25 or 50 HP would would be a good start Because in a lot of instances it felt like I was playing um fucking Hardcore and in fact somebody asked me if I was playing hardcore I forget who it was But um, I thought I thought that the TTK was a little too fast for for my opinion closer to modern refer to Yeah, and you know Jordan the thing is too is I didn't I take her to little bit with the slide and shoot I was just trying to get my bearings, right Um, because I had a a day late start than everybody else did on that game On the beta so I didn't get to really like pay like as much attention as I wish I Would have on things like weapon swap and you know reload speeds and you know things things like that

40:45So as far as like from a mechanic standpoint I I didn't pay as much attention But it does feel like and I did tell sub this it does feel like there are certain penalties that they put in like I was talking about earlier Especially with the being able to reload and run at the same time Um, that's pretty damn annoying not being able to do that Um, especially if you're trying if you're completely out of rounds and you're trying to reload Is there any new game modes um So jt did you get to play the beta at all because yeah We're gonna talk about game modes here in a minute, but I was just curious not this around Yeah, there's a couple game modes that were really like I only played one of them Um, then I thought was really cool uh looks like subs got a work call that he had to take But um, but yeah j j rock did you get to watch the um did you watch much of the uh the beta? I think you came in my stream one day. So a litter at are you completely done with playing the game like you're not gonna do it

41:48Yeah, I thought you know again overall you know overall I'd give it a seven You know, that's that's probably all I feel comfortable after the first weekend. We'll see how it feels Wow, Jordan that's crazy. I don't know that I can say that to be honest because I mean ultimately while they kept some of the same thing from modern warfare 2 It's still significantly better than that what what rating do the other games get from me? You know, I liked um black ops 7 I'd say that's a seven and a half or eight Black ops 6 was an eight for me modern warfare 2 was a fucking negative 37 For me Modern warfare 3 was a seven and a half um Modern warfare 2019 was probably about a seven and a half maybe eight a lot of war dogs I don't even care about DMZ dude like that's like I don't know I just don't think that call duty's gonna be able to make a good extraction shooter like for for the people that like that genre

42:51I don't know and and I don't see the thing is and I don't see a lot of like quote Casuals wanting to play that either. I don't know. I just don't think it's gonna go so well Yeah, for me it is so far. I mean, it's it's close, but keep in mind that's subject to change too, right like if If they start changing a bunch of stuff for the worst then you know that my that my Change my rating of the game up a little bit. Yeah war dogs from the trailer that I saw war dogs looked really good It looked really good. I thought is that one gonna be free to play or is that going to be um is or is that gonna be a um Pay to play thing but Anyway, it looks like he is back. I am back. I am back. So Paul has had a somebody doing some Don't worry. So big go for work for me and I Have an answer call so all right So they asked me you know kind of where I would write the game just based off of the beta and I said what I say seven and a half

43:57Right about seven and a half out of 10. Where would you rate it? I'll give it an eight probably I mean look The beta knock my socks off do I want to Okay, so I said seven go and play it Like am I sitting here being like I can't wait to play it again. No, I logged my I hit level 20 I logged off like I was You know Yeah, I didn't feel the I didn't feel the urge to play it the way that I've felt the urge before Um, there's a lot of like Little things a lot of little brick-a-brack that could be better um, but Is it black ops seven level awful Is it infinite warfare level trash no no it's it's miles ahead of either those games So you know what I'm also finding too. I guess just because I'm in a little bit of a different place like I'm not at the end of the day

44:57If I don't end up liking the game, I just won't fucking play it You know what I mean? I'm not gonna get that invested in a game where I start taking that shit so seriously again Because honestly, that's not good for my blood pressure anyway. Yeah You know, I mean will I make come will I comment on things? Sure. I will But at the end of the day, it you know, it is what it is. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get fucking tilted over a game like that. I just it doesn't make sense to me to do that. Yeah What did you think about the maps? So I'm gonna go ahead and tell you right now They've got a nerd they've got to redesign to a certain degree transit 213 because I cannot tell you how many times I got spawn killed On that fucking map and of course he's as soon as I ask him the question he has a goddamn phone go um, but um, but yeah, I can't tell you how many times I got spawn killed on that map specifically Um, I feel like there there's a couple angles that are just disgusting

46:02um, that You know Just it's not good if you spawn in it's almost it's almost worse than shipment in some ways. Oh my god. I'd a literate That's fucking hilarious. That's that's fucking wild dude that I'm not even gonna say that on podcast or on stream, but Wow, bro Wow, but but yeah, I mean, I don't know. What did you guys think of transit 213 literate? Jordan, uh, I thought Teemo brain rot shipment. Yeah, you know what you might be right. You might be right um Oh the other thing too that I'm gonna say was fucking diabolical and I don't I can't remember if they did this on other Baiters or not But to have where like uavs can be spammed and then no fucking ghost And every time I die I look and it's like Cause or whatever where it says over on the right. It's like uav up and I'm like yeah, like that. I think that's crazy

47:07To do that in a beta At least give us the ability to counter it, you know silkworm was good. I can't remember the name of the other um, let me see here So rooftop silkworm transit caches Lotus I don't remember lithium. That's the one out of that that I don't remember, but um I thought silkworm was cool Um roof tops That was actually a pretty cool map too. There's a couple nasty headies on that one um, but I mean like caches uh It was it was all right. It was all right. Also, did you guys play the open playlist or did you play the regular? Because I think when I squad enough with the guys I played with we were in the regular But when I was playing by myself, I was in the open playlist, but um But yeah, I think I think silkworm was a really cool map that might be one of my favorite ones Out of out of all of those silkworm probably is my favorite one. I couldn't really tell a difference that much

48:12Um, I I mean I got crapped on my first three matches. I think I Don't even know if I had more than four or five kills total dude. I it was fucking bad I got absolutely destroyed, but I don't know if sub's ready to come back or not if he is he's muted Okay, yeah, so anyway Yeah, that's uh, that's kind of how I was feeling about the maps And um mode wise man, I don't want to go through this without him on here At least there's no No, why don't you think of kill what do you think of killbox or whatever The one where they switched it all up Oh, that was kill block. Yeah, no, kill block. I thought was awesome, but hang on a second jaharok you know shipments coming dude It's basically the equivalent fucking um of nuketown So we'll get some curt variant of it or whatever um, I thought kill block was awesome

49:15That was probably my favorite part of the whole beta Um, and I know you couldn't you know make your own loadouts and things like that And I guess as was mentioned in the comments earlier that they are coming out with that mode, but um But yeah, it's first to six. So you play a max of 11 rounds First one to six wins. It that mode is just awesome. It's it's incredible I liked the blend of the different kinds of weapons that you got to use It's very set basically it was gunfight on a map that had parts of three maps on it Um, and that was that was really fun It was probably my like I said my favorite part of the beta weekend and one of the things that happened like one of the matches The this fucking team of like young thunder cats We're just talking shit right like after they won like a round or two and we proceeded to almost reverse sweep their ass Um and and when the entire match and and one of those I think I went off with a pistol

50:20I got like four kills and I got on the fucking Proxchat and let him know a 47 year old dad did that shit to him too because you know I'm gonna talk my shit So little little Timmy wasn't wasn't overly thrilled about that and then we beat their ass the next round too But yeah, it was it was a lot of fun that that mode if you guys haven't tried it try it next week if it's available It's I think I'll be playing that mode Um A lot actually But I'm curious to see what it's gonna play like if you have your own weapons I don't know if I like it as much to be completely honest It was the kill block mode yeah kill block was legit dude half a game and backed out that's crazy Now I thought that shit was fun um okay kill block uh Super interesting idea. I'll say this um so 2019 I played the shit out of gunfight played like most played mode outside of um outside of worsen during the 2019 life cycle um my buddy and I just

51:23loved it So that being said Kill block is interesting. I like that it mixes up the maps I think they need to evaluate this a little bit Because I think they end up with too many lanes that they create like they're There There are a lot of snipers and marksmen and a lot of them have lanes Um, and so it's like you spawn and it's like I swear there were like two or three times where One side has a stronger advantage than the other and all of a sudden It's like we're down three guys immediately because they all got domed trying to find something The gun the gun thing is um the gun thing is interesting. I don't I think they need to adjust their gun mix tooling or have a bigger pool of weapons and attachments because Shit, I I ran it. I think I tried nine different I think I went through nine different rounds some most of them with you The number of snipers and marksmen combos and then pistols with scopes on them

52:27too many um They did have that a lot But I mean that's fixable right you just tune the logic or tune the pool Yeah, not hard to fix and some time look look look Same thing with like the gulag you remember the gulag we need to have some like random shit Um, yeah, sometimes Randomness is good Especially if it's absurd because it's just it's just breaks up the flow um I distinctly remember when they had the car 98 or no not the car 98 they had they had one of the heavier Modern warfare snipers With a big ass scope on it in um in the gulag and then you'd have like your fit like there was no secondary I went I was flawless in that gulag because I just slide canceled the shit out of whatever distance I had to close and just started beating the guy down Every time and they're always trying to aim trying to quick scope trying to do stuff so um it can definitely be entertaining and have

53:27And be one of those Moments where it's like you it's just so absurd. It's hilarious and you get to have some fun with it As long as you're not playing for money like I think it's good Sometimes When it's all the time or most of the time It's not so much fun, right? Like number of rounds we played. I'm just like Between the optic that's on here and the gun itself and everything else I'm like yeah I'm gonna lose. I'm not gonna get any kills I'm just gonna see what I can do because It's just not for me. It isn't it doesn't play to my strengths. It's not a gun. I'm interested in I don't I haven't tried it yet. It's a weird combination of attachments Right like I'm not that good where I could pick up some random piece of ship and when shit and win a game of war zone like you spell so um I it's just one of those things so um but uh but you know Those are caveats right like the like those are nitpicks

54:29I don't know if it's not the right thing but like you know they're they're fixable um overall I thought the concept was excellent. I thought the game was fun. The game mode is fun um Really just you know it would it's good. It needs some adjustment I think it needs a bigger a wider and deeper pool of weapons To to pick from to really make it stand out because there's just so many guns they have in the beta Yeah, and and it's also 10 v 10 for those of you that don't know so that's Yeah, I saw I saw that um I saw that yesterday. I didn't play either But yeah, we played the we played the uh the 10 v 10 um so that was that was really cool. I Again, I'll play the mode. What was your favorite mode? Kill block a block I expected to enjoy kill block quite a bit The mode that caught me by surprise that I played probably 70% of the beta on because I actually genuinely enjoyed it

55:30I don't pay load pay pay out Pay check pay raise or something whatever the fuck that mode is called like it it's almost like um it it God, what is it called? litmus, I don't know I'm gonna call it libous testers. I'm gonna. It's inflation inflation. There you go inflation was Really fun and and here's why I like objective modes right? I don't care for the six v six melee mode like whatever Um, I like modes that have an objective that are more than just mindless killing you have to put a little tiny bit of strategy You don't have to put a ton of it. It's not like war zone. It's that you're not playing tarcove here, but a little bit of thought into what you do to win the match right? It's not just racking kills it's playing um Play into it, but I also like to respond because you know, I die a lot So you know if you die a lot and then you die Like and you only you don't respond like then you just you end up watching people a lot which is just fine

56:34skill issue on my part. I'm sure however Personal preference right if I'm playing multiplayer. I want to respond most of the time it combines Kill confirmed with It feels like a couple of other different modes that they've done over the years um High stakes target or whatever what what what are they call it? Hi I s hs t Now whatever um Hi value target high valued hvt. There we go. That was a um That was a smoke Couple of times where it's like you know, all right, this guy is the hbt. Oh, you know go kill him But that was like randomly assigned um So the the point of this mode is that you kill somebody they drop cash either a percentage of what they're carrying or if they're broke All of it um and or a fixed amount You you start picking up cash and you start accumulating it right so everybody under a team accumulates the amount of cash

57:35So very similar to plunder in worzum same same mechanic um And just like in just like in plunder uh highest amount of cash wins However, when you are the leader of your team you get marked as an hvt So you have an icon in in the map that you can see you also end up with um You're on the mini map and stuff. So it adds novel concept It adds So in the six v six experience it's like it you can feel that it's kind of based around um Kill confirmed right you kill somebody in order for it to matter You have to go and collect the money they dropped so so just like kill confirmed um But the more successful you are the bigger of a target you are and the more marked you are in the map So you know if you're high skilled or you're you're crushing it in the lobby You are not ex you know you're uh it becomes alive your skill becomes a liability i'll put it that way

58:37Um, but it's also nice because you can contribute uh if you are Maybe bad at gun fights, but you're good at you know squirrel and cash away right maybe you know you're good good money saver um And it was it was what it was it was good to see people that like would have low kills, but high cash right like they're always Funded kill and take their money Um, but it's like a way to that they're able to contribute right so it it did feel like a well-rounded mode Um everybody there's a kind of a place for different skills and different play styles um It doesn't bode well for camping Which is another problem this game has had a lot of camping much more so than I think the last two or three have had um But you know just because You either are not contributing and you don't get any money Um and therefore no one's gonna chase you down because you don't have the hwt marker on it on you Um, but also because if you can't if you if you don't go to collect the cash right like what's the point?

59:39Game mode was a lot of fun It had a lot of variation and one of the things that's interesting is that the later in the game the hwts are carrying often a ton of cash You know, it's like you know the goal is to hit a million dollars before it flips over there There are games where I've been carrying six 700k at a time Um, and when you and when you we're the hwt you drop a bigger chunk of it so um Uh, we I've seen it swing You know two three hundred K in the last minute or two because two hwts on the same team get killed back to back And they drop enough cash to swing it back and forth. So Um It's just an interesting game. It's a lot of fun. It's a little chaotic more so than you know say a Uh, more some of the more structured modes Um, and I enjoyed I didn't expect to I figured it would be kind of like a cheesy mode, you know, play it for a minute I ended up playing it predominantly Um, so yeah, I like to know that that that that mode is fun

1:00:45Um, what else? Everything else was pretty standard. It wasn't really a lot of a lot of like uniqueness to any other modes that I that I really played um The kill block was fun. I'm curious to see it in 66. I believe it'll be in 66 modes going forward Um, and and again, I think there's more to other modes next week that we do get resurgence. So we'll get to see how this plays in warzone I think that's gonna be interesting Yeah, I think that'll that'll be definitely interesting and it'll and it'll be interesting seeing the feedback and I forget who it was maybe T dog Uh, Smitty or somebody made the comment about um, most of the feedback we're seeing on Twitter and and at next About multiplayer is coming from warzone players and people who are not even gonna play will play multiplayer that much Uh, we're all gonna have to level their guns Well, it's true, but I hadn't really I hadn't really thought about that right like

1:01:47In in that with that perspective and and he's right. He's right. I we I don't think we should be making multiplayer um You know changing things in multiplayer based on just what warzone people say You know, it'd be the same thing is making changes over and fucking resurgence from the big map players are recommending Why would you do that? They don't play the mode Well, I mean just make resurgence out respawn it'll be fine. They'll be great mode Yeah Yeah, but but no, I I'm looking forward to and I'll give that a run. I played a little resurgence in the last couple weeks And it was all right and and mainly but only Only because they have over on warzone the playlists all fucked up As per usual But you know the one thing I want to say too and this is what's gonna happen when they talk about You know the data Uh, that they like to talk about When the way they have the playlist setup

1:02:51I just don't know that I don't think open matchmaking is ever gonna get a fair shake. So You can't run both dude. You need to run one for a while run the other one and then look at the data Don't run them both at the same time It's gonna be fucking skewed every time because you have a large group of people that have been socially conditioned to think they need algorithmic bullshit So why would they ever go and You know what I mean make them go into it so they can see for themselves So I mean look I'm gonna get the point and we don't know how they're we don't know what the data is and we don't know The we don't know what the data is that they're gathering and we don't know how they're analyzing it Okay, we with things we just don't know um That being said Like the way they're doing it and I think I've mentioned this on somebody's post It's not and it's not necessarily skewed or wrong Depending on how they interpret it and what they're looking for

1:03:54Okay, so like so you know they've got like what nine different modes I think at its peak at the most they had um during this beta so far at nine different modes And of those nine modes um of those nine modes I think It mirror the quick play Pretty pretty uniquely like pretty consistently like they they both essentially were the same um for them for the most I I don't remember if there's a difference. I don't think so um So that being said if you're going to analyze the data you look at those two modes And you look and the thing that you will be looking for is a how many people played both modes, right So I I would assume it's gonna be like 10 to 1 8 to 1 something like that Um, it'll also probably skew higher in the open mode um higher skill um overall so Tending to have you know kind of Tending to have higher overall kds among most players

1:04:58Um You kind of average kds across across the whole game But the thing that you're looking for is the people that cross over right the people that play First one mode then play the other Of those people What do they play more? What are they how long do they play both, you know, so like for example A good data set is if somebody goes and they play standard playlist for 10 games And then they go and they play you know and not all at once right but a total of 10 games and one at 10 games And the other like that person right Seems to like both Okay, now they may You know and and so like that's it that's a good data point right you may have somebody that plays one game and then plays 10 right And and or that plays only open or only quick play Guys you can have different combinations what's going to be most interesting in the data is who plays both modes And how split are they right so like if somebody only plays open they don't play quick play at all

1:06:03They don't play any of they just play open They're not a great data point right you would probably toss that person from you know as an outlier Because it's obviously trying to make the point right I think that's gonna be the majority sub. I'm sorry to cut you off But man, that's gonna be the majority most people on Twitter are gonna play open right and most people who haven't even played yet Are gonna play clothes because they're conditioned to play clothes. So you're so everything if I want if I want to know How the mode is beat how the mode is is performing I'm going to take both of those pools of people and get rid of them I don't they're not interesting to me because they don't show crossover right I want to know who plays eight and two. I want to know who plays seven and three Who splits it five and five? Okay, and of those people then I want to get into of those people Do they perform better in one or the other right just statistically Do they quit more often in one or the other right I don't care about

1:07:07To me no thumbs who never plays it Because I know he's not gonna play it. I don't care. I also don't care about j guy Right? I don't care what you know if he only plays open Okay, cuz he's really freaking good Right, I know he wants you know, that's what he wants right like that's that's the kind of matchmaking he wants to play so so I don't care about this So what I want to know is when the players cross over when they when they try both modes What happens? How do they perform? How do they stay right? Do they play a bunch in one and play in the other and never go back? That's an interesting question Do they play do they bounce back and forth right? Do they play one with friends and then play the other by themselves? Like those are interesting questions And and typically I we have no idea what they what they look at right But if I'm looking at from a data standpoint if I'm looking at it as as a I'm going to analyze data Those are the data points that I'm interested in right? I don't care

1:08:11Who plays one mode or the other because I know that that's predominantly either like you said social conditioning or Twitter conditioning right like it's one of you know, so like the people that that just stick to one and don't touch I don't you know you're not you're not a good you're not valuable to me in in this a b testing right? So I'm actually excluding both of those parties, which is probably 90% of the player pace What I want is the players that cross over And in theory Most you know many players will dabble in both and then pick one Right, that's another telling thing So if I have somebody that comes in and plays three games of open and three games of quick play and then only plays quick play from there on out That tells me something yeah, I I agree with you it a better a better Data set would come from those people that do crossover And and play both modes I just I guess my thing is and this is where I have a little bit of mistrust is I don't want somebody to piss on my leg

1:09:12And then tell me it's fucking raining you know what I mean like because I know what it feels I I know how it feels to go in these matches. I know a lot of times dude If I if I squat up with players, I know what my matches most of the time are gonna be like right? I might get a lot of wins, but I'm gonna get shit on Katie Or if I'm by myself, I know I'm gonna get a lot of kills But I'm gonna lose a lot of fucking matches Or if I make the mistake of having a few good multiplayer matches in a row I know I'm getting donkey punched by Addy sniffers and monster drinkers after that I will say I did not run into that and I had I went I think I went all Saturday I averaged Between a one and a two Katie not eaty Katie Um, I didn't And it was and it was consistent like I would drop I would top of the leaderboard most of the time Um a good chunk

1:10:13You know, you know upper top third top third pretty much the whole night um And then what else top of the leaderboard like Good kills like 2030 kills a match, but I never I never got slammed like after two or three like it didn't like that like MW you know previous MW's MW19 MW2 MW Three black ops six for the most part like you you land two or three games in a row You're getting slammed right like that was just guaranteed if you got four good games in a row Geez like you're doing great, but you know what I don't ever see bro I don't ever see you get Like I know personally if I have four bad games in a row I'm not put into like easier lobbies ever yeah, I mean And that's what's frustrating about it to me. It's like I never get relief, but I'm punished It's always punishment no relief

1:11:15And this is and this is where I want to something I want to just be clear on We don't know a lot about the player base that was playing this week We don't know what modes were most popular. I mean It could be I just played in a mode that all the high skilled players looked at and said that much sucks We're not gonna play it and therefore the player pool was shittier Right like I know a lot of high skilled players were eyeballing Killhouse kill street kill block kill block terrible things Map names are even worse kill block and snd like those were guaranteed to be the Sweatiest things no matter where you are who you played with when you play Like every game of kill block even the ones without you If I can hardest shit to like get even a kill out of for me and then you know whatever like And then it would crash so you know it is what I did yeah, but um

1:12:17I was like I but I really like again I went to a mode that I enjoyed playing the mode and did I have games where I got slammed absolutely right like I think the worst I did there was like a point not point 8.75 point 8 I had a couple rough games on sunday um and Friday while I was figuring out settings and what the hell I'm doing um But yeah, it was it was a So there's definitely there were tough matches, but like it it I didn't feel That and it could entirely be like how the player demographic shifted like so if like you know 80% of the high school players We're playing one of those two modes and then everybody else played something else like everything else is gonna feel Easier overall right doesn't matter and so I know I know a lot of people have said they didn't feel much of a difference between open and regular And just kind of you know when Like like both modes felt very similar to them Um well if you look at what a literate saying here he's testing it He said open took twice as long and put him in the southwest

1:13:21When he did clothe when he did quick play went twice as fast as open and put him in his own region in the northwest Yeah, you know I don't know I don't know like there's so much we don't know we don't have access to much data anymore. It's all I know what we're kind of guessing right before We could look at like we could actually look at your lobbies and know exactly how a lobby was structured That was very easy to figure out now. We're just guessing right Um, it could be that There aren't as many servers available in different areas right like they could be adjusting how much you know How many games are running it could also be that there's just not there not enough games running Right, so like you have to have x- somewhere people in a region to fill a game in that region before it starts kicking you somewhere else I ran into that a few times trying to play Um, trying to pay payload early Payload no inflation inflation trying to play inflation on

1:14:23Friday I was getting kicked to central a couple of times Which for nine o'clock at night in California that's That's quite a ways to go Um, and those live those lobbies were rough But you know again, I think it's one of the things of like The population of people playing different modes is gonna is gonna factor in and we don't know how it's being factored in like We don't know what impact that's happening. It could be everybody in Seattle's writing over something And therefore the lobbies just don't have enough Spots in them right like Ron enough lobbies in the northwest Um, you know versus LA right Yeah, and I think the real time where we'll be able to really get a feel for that is season zero Right, so from launch up to season one and that'll be what about four weeks three weeks. You ever take Mm-hmm will be able to fill that um, I'm curious I'm curious when the new war zone maps are coming out there. It's definitely season one now. See they said season one

1:15:27Okay, so that's all that's awesome um You know what I hope doesn't happen with this one though. I hope that I you know like I I seem to when these games roll out I have a squad. I'm usually six stat you know six deep right And then after about season two It people it just goes away like it it's the last two titles has done that to me I mean that's the normal way of cod most people move on to do something else and only the only the dedicated stay for the full year But I genuinely enjoy multiplayer though, but it is so fucking hard to solo queue into multiplayer I you just have to be okay with not being a loser. No, I don't I play that's the thing dude like That's the thing I play these games to win first and foremost and And you know and I want to get my kills too and like the last two Last game like this current one I guess blackout seven again as I've mentioned before I'm getting kills

1:16:31But I'm just not winning very much and it's driving me fucking crazy You know what I mean you saw what happened with black ops six remember that you were commenting. Oh you're fucking win loss It's so great and then it just went As soon as I started playing by myself, you know every guy knows what you play by yourself you rarely win Yeah It's true I guess but but no I think man I know we're kind of running a little long um you probably got to get dinner or whatever but Listen Are there things I don't like about it sure? I've already listed those are there things I do like about it Sure, I've already listed those let's wait and see what what happens on launch Give it a few weeks and into the cycle of the game I think they're bringing some new stuff for the beta this next weekend. So I'm looking forward to Logging some more time. I'm sure they'll bump the max level up to 40 You know, and it'll be good because I'll actually get to play the first day of it rather than day two so You know, um that'll be awesome, but I'm I'm cautiously optimistic does that make sense?

1:17:35You know, I think it's going to be fun. Um, it's going to be a good game Uh compared to last year During the pot um No, I I think it's gonna be it's gonna be game. It's all but it's a game. I'm interested in playing um And and I I want to always appreciate the fact that not everybody appreciates monowarfer games some people Prefer the black ops style game in this In my opinion is a personal preference sort of thing right you like the style of monowarfer I Definitely prefer that um the black ops games that I look at and I know I like that game are fewer and farther between um But I think that it definitely stands to put the game in a good spot I think it stands to put big map war zone in a good spot um DMZ You know is what it is Um, I think people will like it I think that it's you know again Caught is not for every cod fan every caught is not for every cod fan

1:18:38Um is I think the way to put it because we have two different player bases We have two different fan bases trying to play the same game and the the things that we like in a game um As fans tend to not overlap as much as we think they should um Since they all carry the cod brand and I think that is a deeper ish deeper philosophical issue that Microsoft has inherited and they will have to figure out Um, but as far as modern warfare games go I think it'll stack up pretty well um That least after one beta next weekend is an open beta so we should see a full complement of all skill levels playing it um, hopefully Uh, we can then kind of get a better sense of how this stuff will work at scale Across the the full game of the skill So you know what? Something I just thought about though, you know, and I don't want to extend it too much longer, but you know Next weekend we're gonna have guys that didn't and gals that didn't do the early beta access, right? Like so those are

1:19:43Casuals or whatever the fuck Okay, what's gonna happen if they get into lobbies Where guys like us that did put a lot of hours in Are just shitting on them. They're gonna leave. They're gonna skew data Well, you know, here's the thing probably for the first time in a long time The four demo classes Are in fact fantastic builds I've got no complaints and I ran this shotgun class exclusively I didn't I never ran my own shotgun because there was no need to the the one they gave us is great Um, the m4 build was good Some people allegedly had a cast off build In the game. Yeah, my class one was an m4 So I don't know if that changed and I never noticed it or if some people get a different build But um the smg build was pretty good. It wasn't my favorite. I built a better one eventually But it got the job done and competed against people that were already level 20 on Friday

1:20:47So um, yeah, I mean it They'll be fine You know that one thing that I also said while you were on your phone call you know, it was diabolical Is to have uavs, but no way to counter it perquise every time like I can't tell you how many times I'd look at how I died and they're like Oh, you're on fucking night uav. You a b spam of course, yet in this game. So so also too So like how much is that is there was a launcher available? Yeah, uh field upgrade Which I started throwing that out and I like how fast that charge There was there was an actual launcher. There there was an a launcher. Yeah, it was a field upgrade I don't think it was a field upgrade. I think it was one that was a field upgrade that you throw out There was an a launcher. There's a field upgrade But there was there was a hand there was a there was a shoulder rock. Oh, yeah, I never screwed those I got somebody was running that as a primary that was pissing off not gonna lie a cool You just wiped me out of the room because you blew the whole room up you motherfucker

1:21:49Um Perhaps to him for going forward. I shit on him eventually, but uh, yeah Uh, yeah, no, so The perks aren't all unlocked. Obviously a lot of stuff to unlock next week should see more Uh completeness to it overall, you know, again, it's a beta. It's limiting on stuff like it is what it is We'll see how you know the question will be how balances on the main game Um, but you know We'll see but with that being said I do have to get going Um, appreciate you as always Yeah, man Appreciate everybody that hopped in you know, hopefully Find something to enjoy if it's not colorivity something adjacent war dogs I hear is good those bastards never sent me to invite So I did not get to try it even though I blocked out time on Sunday Oh, there they I hate them now because of it um Unless the ones listening wants to give me a code in which case send it my way

1:22:49But that being said appreciate you all and uh catch you all in the next one later This has been sub one kitty along with j 007 tv and the slightly above average gaming podcast. We're logging off now So let's see you next time You