Episode 146: Putting a bow on BU men's hockey in 2025-26

Welcome back to another episode of Terrier Hockey Talk. We are the boss and hockey blog a little bit of a

I don't know different episode today because we have no more hockey to look forward to

With BU the men's program losing out in the hockey's quarterfinal, but before we do that

How is everyone doing today? I'm joined by

My gracious colleagues and co Sam and Hannah. How are you doing guys? This is episode 146

Just want everyone to know that just to keep our tracker going. I'm doing great

Obviously bummed and emotional that we're never gonna cover BU hockey game again at least me and you for the boss and hockey blog

It's devastating. It's very devastating. It's just cannot believe it's over so more content coming out

So stay tuned for that, but our last game obviously BU season ended at Yukon on Saturday. It's a very sad, but also very happy

very fulfilled very

Grateful for all of it blast hashtag blessed. Yeah, I'm a little sad hockey season is over

I feel like I have all this free time now that I don't know what to do with

so early

with the word among a foreign early like

Early prospects of what you could be doing when you're on your

I started my running journey again. I took a little bit of a hiatus from that

During the winter, so I'm back on that for a bit. We'll see how long that lasts

But if anyone has any suggestions of hobbies I can take up on the weekends now that there's no hockey to cover

I'm open to taking them

Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Sam we can I think I say when I actually discussed making our own ice cream

Briefly did we yeah, we did well, I've been what I've been doing recently is you know like the kind of the toll house cookie dough

You can get yeah, at a store. You can either eat like cold or you can just bake into a cookie and you eat it cold

Yeah, they sell ones that are like edible cookie dough

I put them into I bake them in the cookies and then I put them like kind of line the bowl

Yeah, you brought those over too, and then I put the ice cream in like the cookie bowl and that's great

I don't like I make ice cream. I think we should try to make ice cream

There's like you know levels to like how simple it can be

Super easy like you just basis melt chocolate and put milk in it and you just freeze it or you can get like really crazy

With it and make like custard and how about we do both. Yeah, are you not it?

I think the intense ones require like a big and ice cream maker. Yeah, you know

I mean, yeah, I mean you do have experience some in an ice cream shop

So maybe you can yeah, I didn't make ice cream at scoop and Scootery, but

I'm gonna keep my thoughts on that work environment to myself actually have some in my freezer right now

We keep those off the record, but my only while we're on the topic my only complaint about scoop and Scootery is

They put you can this is crazy to say they put too many toppings on to where when I open like the container

Just falls everywhere. Yeah, so what I started to do is I just flip it over with the container on and then take it off and then like

Sprinkle it as like a garnish as I go as you go. So it's like there's toppings throughout

Yeah, smart dude. I know that's how much free time I have now. That's what I'm doing

But I think we'll watch some movies too

We watched we did mention a blue bike red. Yes

Which I would recommend to anybody who is in Boston who's not done a major city yet

Go grab the electric blue bikes on like a nice like lines gooters if you're lucky nice warm like

Spring or summer evening like when the sun is setting and just bike around the city. It's so fun

I think I think we should do that. I think we should go as far as we can we'll be doing that

Anyway, that's that's what we're doing. I think we got to lock in really quickly on the subject matter here

Okay, I just want to thank everyone for the support. Yeah, that they've been showing 100% yeah, the blog

Us and things like that. It's been very overwhelming and

Just grateful you know to get this experience right these last two seasons a bit awesome and Hannah you're lucky enough to

Still have let's use the word eligibility remaining

Our our our our extra years pending

Our litigation might ensue, but yeah, I just want to thank everyone for the support consuming all the podcasts

Stories

Terry take away things like that we had we met someone at the Vermont game who said we don't do enough podcasts

Yeah, really which which I love to hear right like I feel like we've done a better job this season at like

Being more consistent every week, but it sounds like people are more. So maybe maybe that's something you can

I'd be open to taking that on next year. Yeah, the other thing I wanted to say while we're on that topic super quick is

You know, we covered two

Bad teams this year. Let's just I mean relative to expectation we covered two bad teams this year and we covered them honestly

I hope you guys felt that way, but the amount someone DM me

On Twitter yesterday and was like I really appreciated that story you wrote about you know, be you just basically being bad

I was being put on a loss

and he

The person told me that like it's hard

He was like I can imagine it's hard to write that and then walk around on campus

And I was like it's actually not because yeah, you know love

It's funny like of all the stories I've written as a student journalist and four years at BU that story got the most love

Yeah, which is funny because it was by far the most negative

But we really appreciate you guys the love and support you showed us when we're writing negative stories that aren't you know

Sunshine and rainbows and just kind of I mean obviously chronicling

An elite team like the Maclin year even last year was super fun for different reasons

But it was super fulfilling and satisfying to be able to kind of be honest and and you know report on these teams

Accurately and we appreciate you guys supporting us

People too because the people who consume our content obviously want BU to be successful, right?

Yeah, so the fact that they can rise that's who's encouraging and it's been awesome

Hashtag blessed, but back to serious topics enough about us because as much as I personally want it to be this is not about us

So I think we want to start today with kind of

Who's in who's out?

We'll get into the Yukon game and kind of a recap of the whole season

Very soon, but I think it's important to start with kind of the recent news

Obviously the offseason moves happen right away and they keep going

We're kind of dealing with a sort of developing breaking story right now is reported about an hour ago that colliserman

It sounds like he's gonna sign with the islanders and they go straight to Bridgeport and the HL

Which is interesting?

But then there's been some reports in the hours since it have come out and kind of

Port cold water of that a little bit or at least kind of slow us down

So we don't really know what's exactly happening. You like you saw colliserman in the time hole

About three-thirty I saw him in the downing hole. So forever. That's worth he is still he's still here at least as of three-thirty

He was on video on Tuesday March 17th, but um, I guess we'll start with that and we'll get into to Hudson and buvair

All right, my initial thought on Iserman is that

I am surprised that he's doing this and going straight to the a

That I think is interesting. I think that

I

Was very 50-50 on what I thought was gonna happen with him as far as signing or staying. Yeah

um, but the one thing I did not expect was him to elect to sign and then go

Not be an NHL player for the rest of the season, which I think is super interesting

I I don't get it and like he's smarter than me his advisors are smarter than me. So, you know, this is just my opinion

I would be kind of confused as to the point of the move

If you're gonna leave and go play in the a-shelf the rest of this year and then probably at least start there next year

um

Because in my mind like, you know

I just feel like college hockey. I mean you saw there are former HL players that were leaving

That league to go play college hockey this year like I don't really know

what the

developmental advantages of the HLR

Over college hockey at this point. Well, and I think that like as far as like you're not gonna play in front of anybody

Or at least relative what you would play in front of at the beanpot just at a BBC game

So and then like you know the NIL gets interesting there and how much is it more or less than what you'd get in the HL

I guess he'd sign an ELC so is

Value would be higher. I don't know how that works, but

The HL part of it is interesting to me if that is indeed what happens

well, I think my

Opinion on this is again, I think this was probably the player that I was like most like I don't know what he's gonna do

Right because I feel like you could

It's very clear he loves BU, right? I mean you could you just saw the emotions in Christina's photos

And things like that just kind of how how badly he he loves it here and wants to you know win here and things like that

And obviously you fell short but I think to play devil's advocate a little bit

The HL is a better league than the NCAA, right? I think that's

Common knowledge. I think the HL is the second best league in the world

um

So I think I and like I understand that going straight to the HL rights

It's not a developmental league, but you can still

Get better and if you're not fully ready for the NHL which to be honest, I don't think he is. I don't think

I fear if you go straight to the NHL or play significant NHL time right away it could kind of like

You know stagnate his development in terms of like he's not gonna be getting better because he's not gonna

You know have the league way and things like that. So like I understand the fact of him going straight to yet

potentially

Going straight to the HL just because it is a better league than the NCAA. He's had success in the NCAA

He hasn't necessarily dominated the NCAA

But that doesn't mean he can be a good HL player and you know get better from there and things like that and obviously

The thing about signing is

Now now your organization

Has control of you in terms of you know

They have they control your development which right now that's really not the case

Um in terms of you know when you're not signed

So I think that's a big part of it too is the islanders organization getting their hands on them and kind of having now full control of that player

And obviously the islanders are an organization kind of on the upswing right now

Um, they're having a better year than expected and they have some players coming in things like that and

So yeah, it's um

There's a lot going into this um

This is this is a hard one. This is the complicated one like Hudson's pretty obvious by there is like so we

Stand by there like this one is like this one's hard. It's hard and I think for those reasons like I understand why he would do that

If that makes sounds I think yeah for me, I guess

I don't really agree with him going right to the HL

Obviously like you say like the HL like it's probably a better league than the NCAA

But just given like I guess the level of talent he showed last year

If like we've talked about it on the podcast up until like the last few weeks of the season

He had a pretty underwhelming gear

So in a sense I feel like for himself

We've talked about how much like he wants to be a BU and loves BU he'd want to have a better year at BU

Obviously like there's a lot more that goes into the the the decision

But for me, I just really can need to have a more consistent one more consistency in the NCAA

Because I think he has the potential to have that dominant power that we like talked about at the beginning of the year

He just didn't show it this year

So I feel like if he had that I would understand him signing more so but because especially like in that middle of the season where he just

Was really not generating it concerns me a little bit him signing. I

So I think that

You know like obviously

I don't know there was like that thing in one viral like probably like a month and a half ago now

It was like a list of like the most regressed prospects this season and Ivan was first

Yeah, I always found that kind of confusing

Um, these are like analytical models. Yeah, I really I think that like Bovair's regression this year and like

Iserman's like quiet season are kind of different. I think Bovair like there is like a fundamental like well

Like what kind of player is he or I think iserman's regression quote-unquote is down your quote-unquote was more like one

He got hurt and then he was just snake bed

And I really don't think he was that different of a player this year than he was last year

I think I think the injury is a is a big factor as well. Yeah, like I think you got snake bit which happens right?

It's rare for him and Pando said that right like it's a seven-game scoring job whatever it was and he also

Found his grouping and then never yeah, that never happens for him. It was bizarre

I don't really view this season as much. I really don't think he was that different

I think he was a pretty similar player. I still think he was a high effort player high-can-peer player

He worked hard. He was passionate and he's just nuts in front of goal like when he's on

Obviously this snake bit thing happens whatever

But like he is so consistent reliable in front of goal

Very similar to anybody was last year, right?

Not really a playmaker. He's like going to give you much in terms of creativity and vision and puck carrying

There are a lot of times where like bees

On a breakout or in transition through neutral zone and like he fumbles the puck under his feet

And it stops all the momentum they have on a rush like he's he there's some work to do there

I don't think that iserman's that the player it's ever going to dominate any league he plays in be it the NCAA the AHL

Or the NHL because he's just not a complete player and it's kind of hard to dominate a league when you don't have a complete game

I think he's always going to be kind of a

The way he was used at world juniors where he was a 13th forward where you kind of bring him out

And you kind of have like this sledge this sledgehammer mentality of like oh like when we have a shifting out

Often the zone bring eyes are man out right and he'll he'll score powerfully he'll score

He's got a bigger role in that right obviously

But he's always going to be a player that is like he is the goal scored

He'll score you goals and he's not going to give you

Terribly much else least relative to other players

I think the interesting thing with eyesman where he's going to run into an issue is that

When he gets to the league whenever he does

He's going to be a bottom six player at least at the start

and

He's just he comes with a bottom six role. You're going to get less chances in front of goal

Just how it is right you're less ice time just less whatever

He's going to need to figure out

How he can like make an impact as a bottom six player who's not getting scoring opportunities as much

And I and that that's going to be like it's going to be a steep learning curve at the start and he just has to go through it

It's inevitable. He's going to have to work through it and it's going to be like can he

Figure like can he get through that adversity whenever it comes and so I feel like it's almost in the sense like

There's only matter if he goes now or if he goes a year after this like that kind of

That's slap in the face of like oh my god like I need to be an impactful player outside of scoring when I want to enter the league as a bottom six player

It's going to come regardless and so I don't know I can see both sides of this. I really could

Could he use more time against a way to develop other parts of his game for sure

um, but then again like BU was a kind of a dysfunctional team this year and like how much

How much confidence is there in his camp that BU will be back to a

Really good environment for him to do that. I don't know. I think that

I think the point of where you mentioned like he's going to struggle

He's got to figure out what his values. I think that's the benefit of the HL in this example

I think going there will allow him to kind of figure that out

Um, but do you think he'll be a bottom six player in the a

Not necessarily, but he won't be able to get away with what he got away with in college there

So I think that will force him to kind of realize what he can. I can't do. Yeah, I can see that

So I think that is part of the that's part of the

It's the world before benefit of going to the HL and I think regardless. He's going unless he stays in there

BU and explodes for like 35 goals. I think

He's just going to start up at bridge port um in the alander's a HL system regardless whenever he leaves or not

So I think again, this one's super hard. Nothing's official as of 655 on Tuesday, March 17th

Obviously, we mentioned there's conflict conflicting reporting

But he was still at BU um in the dining hall

As of three hours ago, so I think that's that's where we are

All right, let's do go up there and then we'll go to the health center at the end

Yeah, I think with buah there so buah very officially signed yesterday. He's in Chicago now

He's got some visa probably this is birthday today too. He's got some visa issues. I don't think he's playing today

Um, he was

There on the bench for their optional skate, which obviously like yeah, it's that's but he wasn't he was just in tree clothes

Yeah, he was on the bench um

First of all, I just want to note so he I think he spoke to reporters when he got there last night

And he said that the scratch was because he was late to a team workout

He admitted that he said he went immediately to tell the coaches when he was late that he was late

And like he acknowledged it. That's what this is what he says. It's not what happened

Yeah, it's a word to him and the coaches made their choice to scratch him

Um, it was reported by my friend man that it was not the first infraction of that sort and that's kind of why that happened

So I didn't want to acknowledge that as far as the context of kind of all the you know

Chaos that happened in his final week at BU

I think the I don't think bavaria is ready

I think it's pretty clear

But I also think that

The hawks were kind of like the vibes at BU are pretty bad

And it's best to get him out of there

And I think they'd rather and think for why there's like in bavaria's camp

It's like we don't want to like stay in college because we're not ready

And then transfers to another school because then you've transferred three times and or twice in three years right and it gets all

I think with bavaria makes sense to just get out of there and go and see what happens and for the hawks they're like

you know

If I was to be you were bad

This was a flash on the pan liquid did last year in North Dakota

He's probably pretty ready and we'll take a chance on him

He's going to be in rockford at some point no question about it

Um, but it's interesting. I think it was inevitable. I

I don't think it's the biggest loss in the world for BU

Um, yeah, that's kind of my initial thought on it

Yeah, I think this one's

Again, not surprised, right? And I think

I think this being the right decision and this being the smart decision are two different things in this case

If that makes sense, obviously that doesn't necessarily agree over arching

Make a whole ton of sense, but I think that

Obviously this wasn't the year that

Wavair BU

The black hawks envision for him, right? The injury at the beginning of the season

Definitely a factor um, it just seems like this wasn't a good fit, right? So I think getting him out

And getting him to Chicago is probably the right decision. It's funny. It wasn't a good fit because he like

Loved the love for you, right? It's been this has been in the making forever. Anyway, so I continue fair enough, but I think that doesn't really like

Yes, that is true. It's just funny. Right. It's ironic, but it's not like impossible. No, I know

Yeah, I'm saying so I think that like again, I think this is probably the right decision

It seems like whatever these visa issues are

You know, we're solved. He's going to get games in HL level

And again, I think probably the best for him just because the black hawks aren't in a position to make the post season

Yeah, I think he's gonna play the rest of the year and then get a rock for it for the start next year

I think that makes sense obviously

That's the plan right now. Thanks. Good change

But I was interested to hear kind of

In the Chicago sometimes story Ben Pope, I forget who do you know? Do the name of the black hawks?

He mentioned that

He thinks it's a possibility that while there's a game is more suited for the professional ranks than college

That sure, I guess I think he's probably just saying that that's it. I think Blaschill said that too

Yeah, I mean Blaschill said like you know, he's getting to be bring a physical presence things like that

Which obviously is something that while there has in him because we've seen it before he's so

Did we see it be you not necessarily or not consistently, but that's something that's in there. So I think that

And again, I think I think the biggest thing for him is just this is a clean slate

Yeah, I agree. So I think I it was definitely kind of like this is totally different

But it kind of feels like their airlift thing amount of there a little bit

Just like I think that's just say the kiss before it gets really bad, right?

I think a clean slate is probably the best case scenario for him. Yeah

Would I be surprised if he's a successful NHL player? No

But I'd be surprised if he is not an NHL player at all like also know and that's like the thing with him like the

Outcomes feels so hard to know now like you know

Like you wrote in your little analysis like we've talked about this was the guy in the transfer portal

Um, you know people were fighting on Twitter when he was like rumored to end up on either side of Coma out

like

This is that's a it was it was a major major get was a first round pick and for eyes of him hearing what the BU code and stuff

I just said to him set about him in the preseason

just showed you how

You know important they thought this was

Started the year on the first line started the year on the first power play things like that

And they to be fair they also give him a lot of run whereas like a player like writer for example

Even iserman went down to bottom six roles at certain points in the year

While very when he was like can he was in and out when he was in until the very end obviously yeah

He was either one C or two C or the first left one for that weird stretch there like

They whatever he was healthy they gave him a chance to be the central guy

I just didn't just didn't happen. Yeah, so I think I think my biggest takeaway like I said is this is a clean slate

And I think it's the best possible thing for him and I really don't have any other to say them out

I also just think him leaving BU at least for next year if like it doesn't make that much of an impact on the team

You know where we talk about like iserman it it really doesn't like

He doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like it does like you didn't have the impact that we thought he would coming into the season

And you know with iserman potentially leaving me I feel like that's a huge

Ghoul score point score and just like someone who like seems to be like a very good leader on the team

And same thing with Hudson which will like get into later

But I feel like him leaving we expected from the beginning of the season

I think there was that article that came out a few weeks before the season where it said like he was gonna sign

It was almost like he had one foot up the door

So like you guys said like it's almost like it maybe it's not the smart choice

But it's the right choice for him and it seems like it's kind of been a long time coming for him

The one without the door thing um

You know, I I reported when that article came out that like I was told that this was the plan before the season

Yeah, and it was mutually kind of understood between BU and while there's camp that like

He is gone after this year. This is his final answer lay season

So I think from what various perspective and the reasoning probably first of all

He didn't he didn't say in that story. He was interviewed for he did not say that he was signing

It was eating you said that yeah, but too

I think with from my various point of view is like I already knew that I was gone at the start of the year

So like my foot is there's no like putting a foot out the door at that point like it was always a case

So for him, it's like oh, this is not different. It's just me like this is always in the plan

So I kind of push back inside narrative a bit with him

Does it help that he was laid to a teamwork out three days later? Whatever. Yeah, no

Like that's not the greatest look in the world in the world, right?

Um

With bar there, I think that

You can look at there's two sides of his coin and they're completely opposite

You could look at like the fight is a great example of this, right?

Like you could look at that as like a always an ultra competitive guy

And I did think it was time like when he

When he did that fight, right? And he's he knows he's a jack it's he was getting off the ice

Like he's he's rolling up the crowd and like if you talk to certain people

They will believe that while they did that to rile up his team like that was it was a

Self-less decision to engage in that fight and why don't you greet that as whatever

The other side of the coin is like all right like he's a loose cannon

And he you can't really like get a hold of him

And like the teamwork out stuff doesn't help with with that right

So I don't know which one which side of him is real because like

Muskegon seemed to have no problem with him

No, it seemed to have no problem with him for the most part. He was great at no deck

So I don't know I really have no idea which was really the first season where it was right so you know I

It's I wrote my last it's a lot of speculated. Yeah, my final line

In that analysis was like I have no clue what he's going to be but it's gonna be really really fun to find out

He's either gonna be a super fun competitive player again a lot of fights. It will be good or he's gonna be kind of a

You know

Chet show and that'll be fun to watch too. So we'll see moving on call out soon

No brainer in my opinion

If you want to start this might this because I said this course here

I'll tear it because I definitely have this is very very straightforward. He should have left

He's ready to go. I fully believe in the choice to leave from both the capitalist side and the Hudson side

I have some some thoughts on Hudson as a player that I think are you know

But this makes total sense. That's my initial thought

Obviously a big loss for BU. I don't know how big of a loss

It is relative to what it's perceived to be which I think we can get into if you want but that's my initial thought

Yeah, I think for me to get into that I'm gonna need to hear you go first, but just really quickly

um

Again, no brainer. Um, he's been used as player last two years in my opinion

Without a doubt this area was the best player. You could probably argue Quin Hudson, Ryan Green, whatever you want to call last year

um

Yeah, I think he's going to be elevated into the capitals right away

Um, he practice today for the first time was on the second pair in the second power play

Spencer Carberry the capitals coach wouldn't

Said they're gonna decide tomorrow if he's gonna play or not. I think that's absolutely ridiculous in my opinion

I would be very shocked if he didn't play

um

Yeah, this just this sort of listeners by the way you like is a capitals fan just so like you know

Just the context there. I'm not saying that as like a bad thing

I'm just saying like this is a context like you like you you will know about the capital situation

Yeah, I think that and again like

I'm trying to separate myself from that a little bit too. Just has like kind of you know

Grow into wanting to do this for a living

But that is sure I do probably fall. I do follow the capitals more than more closer than any of their team

Um, but with that being said, I'd be very shocked we didn't play

um

And he's just such an exciting player and I

Handed I would love to hear we have to say before Sam and I kind of go back and forth for a couple minutes on this

No, I agree it makes

It makes total sense that he's

Gone to be frank like last year. I remember I was like waiting for him to sign if I'm being honest

I was expecting kind of last year after the season he had was super happy that he stayed one more

Obviously wasn't the season we expected, but it makes sense

I figured he'd be like the first one to sign out of all the potential after

Be lost on Saturday and I feel like he's gonna his game gonna train like what welds the pro level because obviously

I feel like he plays very similarly to Lane and Lane's done impressive thing so far in his two-year

Ten-year initials. Yeah, it is an understatement

But I think that he's probably gonna do the same thing have very similar impacts that his to what his brother did

Really fast before I let Sam go on this one

I think I think I fully expected him to come back last year just because Lane did it right did announce it though

So did Lane

Right, but like I think the announcement like eyes are I don't know he know there's a video. I think they all do like

Fire it up to some like whatever

Okay, I remember the class and they mean like news like oh like there was some kind of uncertainty about continue for sure

Yeah, no, I think in my opinion

That it made total sense for me to come back just because

We sell in hot said do it and and also with defense been like of this style and play

Have traditionally always stayed through years or two years, you know Zeeb William

Just for example, I'm struggling to find anyone else right now, but I know there's more Sam go ahead

Um Zeeb was drafted after a freshman year. We still play two years. Yeah, I know it's but he was like a weird birthday

Okay

My Hudson

If I were to like sum up my Hudson feeling my Hudson take about him as a player and like one sentence

I said this to you guys before I think I know what I'm to say

I think he's an underrated defender and an overrated offensive player. I think that

There's kind of a narrowed out there. He doesn't backcheck which I think is kind of ridiculous like very clearly back

He's a high effort high effort defender. He's on the penalty kill. He's got a good stick

There are times in the dzone where he gets a bit kind of just like he's standing around next to the crease and just like do do something

And that's the only time I'm like all right, but I like you need to lock in like for example like

um

I want to keep when the northeastern the game time goal it came off of his skate here. Yeah, I'd again us and I read again

Yeah, like that whatever like that's not Hudson's fault

But like that's a good example like there will there will be times where Hudson just like stops in the dzone and just stands in that very area

And just it does nothing. That's his one defensive flaw really quickly on that also a small, but you know he's good really quickly on that

I do agree where he's a high effort player. He um cares about yeah playing defense

But he's still a working progress defensively

So like what you saying kind of just standing around the off into the defensive zone like yeah, that makes a lot of sense

He's not perfect defensively, but I think his effort

On that side of the puck and willingness to improve upon that ask them several times

What do you want to get better? That's the first thing he said

Yeah, yeah, that's why I say he's under a defensively

I think it's a narrowed out there that he's like this like incredibly flashy offensive talent

Who just kind of happens to play defense like no, he's like a true defenseman

Like he will he will do it. Um, I think it's a jolti helps him a lot defensively as well

Because like he just like you know, you're defending guys like he's a very quick lado mover

All that stuff is great. He's sick as great whatever

My issue with him offensively is I just do not I think a lot of the hype that got built up around Hudson

Like there were some people saying he was a top prospect jath prospect in the in the whole league

And I just and I think a lot of that was built on like

The clips of him skate through the whole team look really cool

And I just don't think that those types of puck carries

Are as impactful and valuable to winning as they are

Fundowatch

And I think that it was very interesting to hear Prandolfo say

Like a key part of our game plan for this Vermont game and the elimination game is like

You know, we want to move the puck from sick to sick because the puck moves faster than the player

That's just that's just how it is

That's the first thing with transitions and two is like if there isn't any space dump it down there and go win it

And you know when it will go win it below the goal that is just not what Colossan does

Which is not who he is he tries to skate through the whole team and and and enter with like

Deception and skating which is incredible. I understand that

I just think that he needs to recalibrate a little bit like

The way that he's using his immense skill because the skill is so good

But I just think that he could use it in more impactful ways than he is right now

And then I think that's why I think I have no issues with him going into the league because like that's a calibration process

Of just like you need the initial to teach you what you cannot and can do. So I think it's totally

Fair and necessary and like the right move to go to the league. I'm just saying I have reservations about

At least right now about his offensive

Impact's non-usability, but his impact offensively. Yeah, I think that I agree with that last part where it's like

He needs to probably ran in a little bit. Absolutely. And I think that I think he would tell you that too

And I think that's why this move is at coming at the right time because and I wrote this in a little analysis on our offseason tracker

He's gonna like you said Sam. He's gonna quickly find out what's gonna work and what's not gonna work

And I think he's a very self-aware player as well. Um, he very clearly

Seize what people say about him

So but what I will say impact I think you can't

I think his impact is twofold one

He's on the ice all the time. He plays in every situation. I think that alone tells you just how much

The coaching staff and everyone trusts him and the value he shows and then just like

I'm gonna call you out a little bit too

Um, when we were originally having his argument

You weren't aware that he was a plus 13. I was not on this team

That that is tremendously impressive. I can't I can't deny that

That is he's on the ice more than anybody. Yeah, he's on the

Night on that team. He'll plus 13 is bonkers. That is that's something

And like plus minus is a weird stat. It's misleading

But like when it's to that extreme. It's like okay. That could mean something

Yeah, so I I'll get there with you on that

I but again last thing I do want to say and because I think I feel that I fear we're spending too much time on this

Is that isn't me a long button? So

Yes, he's gonna have to run his game. I do think it was probably

Again, I think you still learning to kind of ran it in a little bit and talk and talk to people

But I I was talking to um and I shell scout about him. I was curious like like what do you think of the way he plays and he was like

Cole needs to learn that like when you beat the first guy

There's always gonna be somebody open on your team because you beat the defender

So there's a inherently like a numbers advantage there and like he was like I'd bad

I want to see Hudson like look to find that pass

Right after I beat the first guy instead of okay, let's beat the second guy

Yeah, and then the third guy and that's where I think that the calibration comes in is like

Dude like your deception and your skating ability is unbelievable

But just use it in a more impactful way than you are right now

It's kind of my point with him

He has talent and his ability and like his ceiling as a player is undeniable

I just think that like right now

He might not be as impactful and as valuable to a team as far as winning goes as he

Could and should be is kind of my point that's all great player though, and he's gonna be good in the angel

Should we wrap on the uh season

We should be just like talk you con briefly just kind of like what happened in that game

Maybe it's it's kind of related to the whole year. Yeah, I think that

You want to yeah, I can start so I think that

I wrote this in my little like I don't even know what you want to call it column analysis opinion and anything like that

That like this was

I think this gaming against Yukon on Saturday was like

showed you

In parts what this team could have been because they played a full 60 minute game and what I mean by that is the effort was there

The energy was there

When it really has been a lot this season

Which we've talked about so so so much this year

But again, they just made too many costly mistakes

So I don't think even if they played

You know even if they played hard hockey

For a full 60 minutes every single way I'm gonna see the year

I still think there is a ceiling because of the mistakes that they were giving up

Because you know literally every every goal that Yukon scored was

It couldn't get the puck out of the d's own turnover

You know things like that. So I think that's kind of my biggest takeaway on this game

Um, I liked what I saw from a lot of players, but you know Yukon just

Was the better team I guess

I I did write in my story from this game that like yes, but you did work harder in this game than they did and

A vast majority of their games this year and they were still at work by Yukon

That's just the like Yukon scored there

You know as you said I think it was two of their goals

But definitely the two that won the game in the beginning of third period where them just like where we are

Gate we're the first to the rebound and like we were just kind of the pressure is too much and eventually because we have so much the stain pressure that you know

You crack so like yeah like I think that

That it was a perfect illustration of just like where this team was not good

Is like that type of goal like it's not like you're really like I mean

the the Yukon freshman that kid to the the Yukon's fourth goal to basically win the game was it on real shoes first

collegiate goal on real shot like Yukon's goals are not necessarily the most high-end plays in the role

They're just more like sustained like one of more than pressure kind of like a system-based goal

And that's where B was really like outmatched this year overall. Yeah

But yeah, like I think that

It feels somewhat similar to how the women's team ended where it's like damn like if you could have just done that like

For all 37 games like where would you have been just if you just tried that hard if you were that consistent

over three periods

Um

But I still think that ultimately like even when you did play pretty well like Yukon was just a better team

There's just a better hockey team that deserve to win the game and like that I think says quite a lot about

you know

What what the team was this year?

Mm-hmm. I want to ask you guys because you guys were there in person. Did you think it was like the last goal or one of the last ones that

What's almost called back for goal ten or interference? What were your eyes as thoughts on that?

Do you think it should have been on the call itself? Yeah, that wasn't a goal interference. Yeah, yeah, I mean just it was

Gussies in my brain challenge it or no because they originally with it off

So they were just reviewing the goal. I think Yukon challenges it. Um, yeah, Gus is a niberg

Who is I believe he's six seven?

Checking right now

Anyway, very big player. I think he's had a great screen on your go off

And it was also just a stupidly good shot like that was that deserve to be a goal. I had no issues with it

Um, I didn't think they're I you know watching if I didn't think they were gonna up like uphold it

So um, there were no issues with it on buse bench like there was no, you know, Pando screaming at the rest

I was really bad news. What? He's six. God

Anyway

He's at least at least six seven on skates, but you can move so fast it

We've all three of us have been around the entire year, right? And there's like no question that BU was

Disappointing they were worse than we thought they would be they underperformed whatever you want to call it

Give me like if you had a pinpoint like the main like foundational reason why that happened

Based on all of the reporting we've done through 37 games

What would be your first answer for both of you Hannah? I think

Costly turnovers is what comes to mind for me. I think that costs them a lot of games

I think at the beginning of the year we talked a lot about how like defensively be you had a lot of room

To grow and need to get so much better and we saw a lot of turnovers in that end

But then you know down the stretch you're still seeing that and that is what ultimately kind of led them losing the Yukon game

So I feel like in a sense those turnovers that maybe a high-end talent makes

Not that it matters like if they're high-end or not, but those types of turnovers

Is what cost be used so much because they were so frequent and the I guess like offensive talent couldn't outweigh those at the end of the day

And I don't know if that's I know like in Pendolfo's post game after he said that he should have done a better job

To like I guess what was it like and she like tell the team what it takes to win or the exact quote

It was a very telling quote. I thought I was really insightful. He was like you like with it

You need to have constant messaging started the year like he basically implied that he assumes that

There were things that these guys would just understand and know and do without him having to tell them

And like that was the mistake he made I feel like to that point like

There's so many costly turnover as maybe these younger guys are making and then we just see it happening again

And again, I feel like that was just a trend throughout the whole year

And I think that is part of the reason that they were never able to I guess pull through consistently

Is because when they are making mistakes they were costly

May I go next Samuel? Oh you I think it just boils down to the inability to

put a consistent product in the ice

I think that's very overarching. I think that it really includes well

Well, you just talked about I know what the turnovers, but this team

And we said it like I think I said this 300 times like I don't feel it feels irresponsible to protect anything

How anything can go like you didn't know which BU you were gonna get

And I think that was the biggest problem

Right because and I think this goes into what we just said about panda what panda said as well like

I didn't drill home like the little things that you need to do to win

Early enough on the season like and I think

Obviously there were there were good performances mixed in that's the problem like you see the ceiling

And the ceiling still not that high in the floor super low because it's just it was so volatile

And what does that entail? I think you can tell the youth a little bit early

I think you can entail

Maybe a little bit of a panda was saying about not drilling that under their heads soon enough

I think that can entail you know

Not getting the production youth from players you thought you would and I think that was the thing as well

But I think I think the biggest thing about this season

Was just their inability to sustain play shift at their shift period after period game after game weekend after weekend

And I think I think that's the biggest thing because I feel like that's what we heard the most yeah

As

As far as why

Though it like the root cause of those issues right like the root cause of inconsistency the root cause of the turnovers

I think that it's

Well, this is kind of the take and this is just my opinion. I just want to make that clear. It's just this is just my opinion

um

The take-off kind of formulated over the past couple days is that um

I think the issue with having 20 not 20 they had 18 draft picks

Is that they ended the season with the intonate picks

You know most you have you know

75% of your roster

For very good reason like this is not like a dig at these players. Yeah is

Concerned with individual development and individual goals. Right. It's just like the reality of it

Like collazerman cul-huts and sashtabaw there all these first round facts like they are concerned about their future

They're individual future as far as getting to the NHL which is a totally valid thing. There's nothing wrong with that

And that's why when you hear people say like you need balance between having high end draft picks and having

Not high end draft picks players are probably not going to go to the league. I think that's the reason

Is because when you have so much of your roster like all of these guys are individually and you heard Pando say it

Um at Yukon after it was the last question he was asked

He said we played too much as individuals this year

Right, and I think it's probably because like these guys are thinking individually for very good reason like they're they're high on players

This is not the end of the road for them. There is and this is a at the end of the day

This is a stepping stone to the NHL be you brands itself as that

I think they recruit based on that like it's very clear that that's like a part of this program

And they just didn't have enough

so I think that like

um

When you when you have that kind of individual like kind of every man for themselves mentality

And there's no kind of nothing gluing it together. I don't think there's enough gluing it together

You know, you get a lot of players

You know, I think I think the kind of narrative they were had an in balanced roster

And that they were kind of all top six forages like somewhat true and that like every single player

Is used to making high-end plays being a top line player that finishes off chances as opposed to yeah

I'm gonna go get dirty on the boards and do like really important boring quote-unquote things that like

You know five plays down the line lead to a goal instead of me scoring the goal

I think that was a that was an issue right like you know

Write a richie play in the fourth line sometimes kind of a fonder play in the fourth line sometimes

He found out like Jack Murtag played on the fourth line a lot and like Murtag is a program kid

Write a richie scored. I don't know how many points at medicine hat, right?

Like these are not players that are used to doing that

It's not a fault of their own which is like this is not the role that they're built for

And so I think it ultimately comes down to I think this was a very imbalanced and you know poorly contracted roster even if like the individual talent that

Kendall from Parabot and was was very very good

You know like you it's not

The hole is kind of greater than some of its parts almost and I just think that like it was a flawed

roster kind of philosophy for me. I think that

In realistically, I think it's probably a little bit of all of what we're talking about

um

But I think I think you're you're part about you know these players

All they know is being the best player right or you know a high-end one of the best players, right? I think that's

And that's probably a panda who's a loser is that is that a roster construction thing?

Sure, but I also think it's like you got to look at yourself because like

these these players

have to know

What their role is gonna look like what player they can become right and

most

If not all of them

will not be a player

Who is consistently producing at a high level at the highest level being the NHL?

So I think that's something that

Maybe and again

Pure speculation. We talked about entitlement a little bit earlier in the season. It's just like

They think they're better than everyone else. They think they can just you know skate circle around everybody

That's not the case and

I just like I guess I just don't I think they were kind of stubborn in the fact that

They didn't realize that soon enough and they probably were frustrated because this was happening

And they didn't adjust properly. So I think that's part of it as well

In my perspective and again, I don't need to know what I know

I'm not inside those rooms. I would love to be

But the other day I'm not one of the other things interesting. This is a different sport

So I was sitting down with Tara yesterday for a sort of the women's team will be out very soon

I'm excited about it

But she said and this is applies to women's team

I think what you just said is interesting. I could apply here too is like

You know study show like

Course you said that. I know

size um

When players are frustrated when the team is not when the team is struggling

What do good players tend to try to do and do more right and I think that

That's when you heard pandas talk a lot about playing simple like it was a little very very very calm thing

You said and I think that like the frustration part comes in is like all right like we are

Say like at the point of the year when we lost to you as low

They lost to you as low, right? So they're whatever they're on MPI

I think the frustration is like every single player and again

These are high-end guys who are used to being high-end guys like I'm going to be a hero now, right?

And I think Colossan is a part of this right kind of my point from earlier for sure

But all of them are right and I think that

That's kind of where you know

This seems into like not playing as a team and that everyone is kind of trying to individually solve these issues

Um, I think that was an issue. Do I think I want to say that it just about roster balance real quick

Now I thought this was very very telling because we asked Pandolfo before the year

Because I was doing the column about the high-end graphics versus experience thing. We asked him like

Um, can I feel like for I know right sitting in that room? Yeah. Do you think that age is like overrated

As a general just like how important is in college hockey and he was like yeah

He was like he did say like I think you need a balance

And then he acknowledged like this year. We're obviously extremely young

I think the the where you need the balance is not necessarily with age

And I do think that like obviously

Age is going to help and you would rather have very rather be older than younger because you're just going to be heavier or whatever

All right, but I think the balance more so is like

It doesn't even matter like if the kids 18 like if he's not

Like when Mick for sure was 18. He's not going to play like the way that

Writer if she plays when he's 18 right and like that's the balance

Problem to me like you need more Ben Merrill. Yeah, and I don't think it's a coincidence that the best freshman this year

Were Morello and Merrill who were lower on picks and I really don't there's things to back that up as well

It's Fiboda Morello. Yeah, and they played even the Ben Merrill were even or above plus minus right

Like the way that those guys played was not like the normal stereotypical 18-year-old

And so I don't think it's a balance of age which is a balance of just like

What type of player are you bringing in and what type of aspirations does that player have and who is he?

And I think that was where the imbalance was this year at least in the forward groups the defense is kind of a different story

I wonder like next year obviously we've talked about who's leaving and we can speculate people coming in and you know

Trans-reportal and all that but

Obviously BU is still so like top heavy and young players

So next year what it's gonna be like 10 or so saw I don't know the exact numbers, but there's still gonna be yeah

Obviously, yeah, they're gonna be a lot of still

Be used still gonna be a young team like there aren't that many

There there'll be a few more seniors obviously, but I'm curious to see next year. Yeah, one would assume

But I'm here exactly back would be so helpful. Oh my god. Anyway, I'm curious to see next year how I guess it translates

We talked about obviously their top heavy and top like six forwards

How maybe you know having this year having this experience where they didn't do as well as they anticipated clearly

How that would influence the type of play they come out with next year may be

Assuming a different role as a bottom six player on this team specifically what I will say is

I love another year of swaboda Morello. Oh my god. Yeah, Ben Merrill player like that. I think those

I'm gonna be real valuable next year because again

all

But

Rookins for both are gonna be sophomores their juniors, but these are 20 year old freshmen 19 year old freshman Ben Merrill

It's gonna be 21 when this season starts next year like

And these were players who you kind of knew what you were gonna get on a game-to-game basis and be you frankly didn't have a lot of that

So I think that right there is super valuable

Obviously who knows if you know

Be you have to retain these players as well, right? You know, they can't leave they can't or transfer board of the can do whatever

But I do feel very confident in the fact that everyone I just named will be playing college hockey this season

Um at BU that's another conversation. I have nothing. I know nothing about it

But obviously the portal won't happen for a while like it's it's open players are in it, but like it's not open yet

Right, it's not it's gonna. It's gonna. It'll hit me. So those players coming back

Would be massive and again, they're gonna have like this. They're gonna have great players coming in

Titan Lawrence Caleb Caleb or Holtra. Mm-hmm. It's kind of good. I was reading by the way. Yeah, sorry

shooting scowl wheelers new draft rankings

based time in his nine and Caleb is ten and if you read his blurb

They seem like various similar players

Kind of so they're both centers

Very helpful both hardworking play the right way

Kill him out Holtra questions about offensive ceiling a little bit, right?

But again, I think you can kind of get away with that a little bit in college and obviously we saw a time

It was I love time. It was time. It was time. It was had like five in his last five

I won't go to war for time and it was like at the time and I will too and I think that

Again, Caleb out Holtra was a whole different conversation because

There wasn't like a ton of oh wow. This is a great pick up for BU

But all he's done since the day he committed is just gotten better. Yeah

And obviously it's in the family his dad was another two-way player and the coach of the abyss for connects in the HL

He will be an initial head coach one day. So

He knows what it takes because his dad did that. Yeah, so I think that's a massive player

I think sorry go ahead. Yeah, and this could lead into a conversation about just like the greater like birds

I've you picture where the program is at right now

Like even for a program like BU that like loses a lot of players

Before they graduate right like a lot of two-year one year whatever really quickly on that cold hot said doesn't tend to graduate

By the way, okay cool. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, these things do still happen in cycles

It's like think about how many players be you lost last year so many yeah, and like if I zoom in leaves

You know, it'd be three, but there's a chance they lose two guys, and that's it to to just the NHL the poros different story

So I will spend like I think that like be you

I don't know how much of like BU being the youngest team in the country by a full year was like

Completely intentional as much as it was like all right like this is just part of our cycle like we're bringing in a big new crop or freshman

And like you know, these guys are gonna be here for a bit and like in three years will be pretty experienced again

Right, so like and again like you think about next year right if Gavin and Jack are back right those are two seniors

That have already been in the leadership group right yeah, that's yeah as a defender and as a forward

Boat as a junior is super exciting. Just like a really just like you know complete like hardworking reliable player

Benaric as a junior

Benaric was bothering me about towards the end because of the because of the face off stuff

But he's going to be a junior still feels like at least like reliable to extend right here's the thing to you know

It looks pretty good next year. Here's the thing too like I think and I think writer richy next year

Could be a much better player. I think writers got to be a top six player

I think Jack Vertag next year could be a much better a more productive player. That's good against you

Yeah, you had to be done apparently, but it didn't come back to the bottom of the ass, but I think on the two you just mentioned in leadership group

I would be willing to bet a lot of money that Jack Harvey is back

I just think that playing in college the the portal is kind of complicated, but yes

I would be surprised if he's yeah, I would put a lot of money that Jack Harvey

Is playing college hockey next year and probably at be you mostly

Yeah, I would be shocked if he transferred. Yeah, that would be kind of crazy

And again, this he has been a productive player since he's gotten here. Um, he was interesting too. He kind of like

Didn't he didn't play in the first the first half as freshman year and then he

Elevates plays with McLean a chance in the top line and is very good

You know panda kind of called them like a you know, it's almost like we added a player to the team, right?

He's been very productive for three years um

He's been productive like he you know 20 25 points things like that

He'll get you a goal. He'll play in all situations. What I think is super valuable

You kind of know what you're gonna get with him. I think that's a player that be would love to have back

Benara is the same way

He just has one more draws

He was losing so many draws towards the end of the game

But in that he's very similar. I think uh gamma carthy. I think this one is

Behind colisome in the one like I feel like you know either way

I think that he's lean again

This is just pure speculation based based on my sense of everything. I have no reporting on this

I think

The Gavin thing is leaning probably a bit more towards returning than isman was I think isman was like purely 50 50

Yeah, it's like Gavin started like six things like I wouldn't I wouldn't what I mentioned like what I mean like like I mean

I wouldn't be surprised if what if getting does either either either way and what I will say

I think okay, Gavin's got a lot of flag

Past years. I think Gavin was very very good this year. I think the raw numbers will show it

He had 21 points of 30s games. He had the second most assists on this team. That's way up from last season

He was right behind colisome as a plus 12

As well

Block 57 shots second on the team behind a and celebrate any

I think Gavin was really really really good this year. You know you saw you saw him get rewarded with a 13 hockey used and

Captain have it to your catholic college doesn't really happen that often. I think that's the big thing too. So

You know we can argue you know the leadership was a hole, but

That's another four-year player. I mean his brother obviously played five years of EU circumstances were different, but

I think my gut tells me he stays again. I have no information on that. It's just my feeling

But Gavin was really really really good this year in my opinion and I'm glad that that happened because

He was he got some flack before. I'm a bit lower on Gavin, but I agree that he's probably a bit over

Criticized

I'm definitely lower than on him than you are, but that's where I'm out with him while we're talking about just like potential attorneys

Sasha and Sasha with median and big mic are also interesting in this conversation

Yeah, I would imagine that both are leaning towards coming back

I think that's kind of where the if you just read the tea leaves kind of seems like what is going to happen? Yeah

Big mic is a junior. I you know

Big mic season on a half big mic. Yeah, right big big mic's year is what it is

It was a down year. He's like goalie. It happens like I think these still a quality player

Yeah, goalie goalie development is and here's the thing. I think the reality of big mic started

It's going off is that like get an unbelievable year or a half year as a freshman and he had a pretty

Lackluster

I think the reality is of what he is the player is somewhere in the middle as it always is

Like I think he's probably I don't want to say percentage was as a freshman, but he was 920 something

It was 904. Yeah, like he's I don't think he's the best goalie in the country

I think he's probably like a top five goalie and I think and I think that I okay. I think this is I think and again

Golly development is

Almost impossible to kind of project

It takes longer. Yeah, so very weird position. I think that

He would benefit from staying

Um, and again

He's huge. He's athletic. He's smart

Already three things lovely kid too. Yeah, yeah exact are these are already a elite positive right clearly a hard worker

He clearly care. He's got some I think he's got some nasty to him too. You know, we're seeing him

He really killed some headbutt. Yeah, he was doing some funny stuff. Yeah

Waving a stick there's clearly some you know fire in there, right and

I think that he looks very sad to

And he's just like the nicest guy ever too. Yeah, um, I think that

Mike

even

He couldn't he could repeat the season next year

And I would still believe that he can be a better NHL goalie than it was college goalie

Just because golly development is so nonlinear like it's so hard to know what's gonna happen like

Will he probably play play in the HL for a while too? Yeah, he probably because Jacob Markström is the very good golly for the devils right now and

It's not what many of you should stay. That's really all I got to say on that but I agree it's not just this day

so

I think the last question I wanted to ask you guys before we get out of here

Obviously the first time Pandoff was missed the for the first and four the tournament

Yeah, and the first time he's missed the garden. Yeah, and hockey's tournament first time he's finished with a 500 record or not a winning record

Like all kinds of first like it's been three incredible years and then one not good year

What where do you think the program is at under him right now birds?

I view if you look at all four years and then you're going to the future as well

Because how do you gonna be your next year next two years? So lucky. What do you think? No, I'm very grateful

I'm gonna be here the next two years, but I think it's at

Sorry, sorry sensitive subject, but I think it's in a good spot

I think it almost is important for him to have a down year in a sense in a way to like you can learn from it

Whereas like obviously there's always things you can take away from a season

But when you like make it to the national championship and the frozen foreign stuff like all those seasons are gonna

You're gonna remember the positives so much more in my opinion

So to have a season that is down does feel important for BU's identity under the Pandoffo era just to kind of have some adversity

I think also something I hadn't really thought about that Sammy brought up earlier

You know you're kind of in a program you're building for like the four years like that what will you look like in four years and that sort of thing

So to see a lot of these young people returning

I think maybe it was strategic in a way. I hadn't really thought about that until like just now

But I feel like because of how many people are returning

Maybe some will transfer me. We can't really like speculate at this point. It's a little bit too early

But I feel like where Pandoffo is and who he has coming back next year

I don't think they're in a bad spot

And I think also because he was very accountable

After the last game of the season, I think he recognizes

Where he made the mistakes and what he has to do differently next year

And I feel like not that many coaches would be as transparent

in those moments

Look

We've talked about this before the buck always starts with the head coach and college sports

So like all of this whether it's roster construction or whether it's coaching or whatever it is it always comes back to him

Obviously he and he said this he had a tough year this year

And he did make clear make a lot of mistakes

And like

Ultimately like Pandoffo did not do a good enough job

As the leader of the program to get them in a place to win Nanny

It's very clear. I mean you can't deny that

You know there's obviously all those muted BC Burner accounts right

That are kind of you know taking a dig at Panda right now

I think that's kind of ridiculous

I think his track record clear speaks for itself

I think these things happen like he's like he's got to realize too

Like this is the you know he's been a head coach for four years

This was his fourth year like you know you don't know you don't know right

And it's like I think he learned a lot about like

Where kind of his blind spots were as I had coached this year

And he was very humble about it

He was open about it and vulnerable about it in that moment when he asked him so

Obviously like you can say that stuff

Yes, you have to like learn from it and like put into action and we'll see how that happens

But I would be

I'm a very hard time hearing arguments about like not being confident in Pandoffo

In the way he's putting this program going forward like I still think it's clearly isn't this plate this

This program was in a very good place in Pandoffo

From the evidence we have is clearly a very good coach is kind of my overarching takeaway on it

I I love Jeff

He was a pleasure to talk to he was always

Keeping it 100 as the kids say there was a narrative when we first when he first got here that he was like bad and boring with

And I did not experience that whatsoever anyway continue

He was great. I am a really big fan of him and I think you like

I have no doubts

That you know this is who he is right because again

Like you mentioned Sam this is only his fourth year as a head coach at a level like this

He's been very successful in the first three seasons obviously not the ultimate goal, but still very successful and

Kind of bringing a program back to not you know to

The finish line almost right. They know they weren't like terrible under Albee or David Quinn

But for the program standards under Albee they were pretty bad. Yeah, Jay

Shot life back at it would a little bit and again down year sure

And I would like to walk back. I said this. It was probably a month or two ago at this point about Kim

I really love the coach of your stuff. I

Want to walk that back

Joey piece the pride of the best recruit in the country. I stand by that

I

Kim's better than NHL

You know organizations before I have no doubt

That they will you know adapt and do what they have to do to be successful right like but like

It should be acknowledged like where they fell short like Kim

We got to be teaching the pathway better than that. I don't know what what what it was

That was the issue whether it was like this you know the scheme of it or what just how he was teaching his guys to execute it

But like clearly there was something very very very like that so like yeah, acknowledge these things as like

and again like

Your badgers are gonna happen. I think that like when as a coaching staff when especially like all three of these guys

You know, it's a new place for them pandas head coach for the first time like

When you're not really young when you're so yeah when you're when you're so successful your first three years

like

And obviously like I'm not saying that Pando didn't learn anything from that experience in this first three years

But like you don't like learn like you know like there's always new blind spots

The after being so successful in your first three seasons in that new role like you're always gonna have things

So this to me was kind of inevitable and like am I surprised it happened this year like yeah

I mean if you look at our predictions, which are fun to look back on yeah

Should go do that just for laugh, but like yeah, like obviously all this is surprising to us

But when you really look at it from a bird's eye view

over four years if you had been like

Do you expect them to make to be you know national contenders all four years you probably say like yeah, you know

Hopefully like more often than not, but there's gonna be down your at some point right talking in sports, so you know

Any last thoughts

Sadness

Sadness and despair. We're currently doing this podcast in the dark by the way. I'm kidding

My eyes got some announcements

Offseason tracker for the men is up at hockey dot gillifupress.com

We're really enjoying it. It's a lot of viewership those trackers, which I think is cool

So yeah, like if you ever curious about what's happened with BU's

Moves both, you know, he was returning who was leaving for the pros who was in the portal who we was getting from the portal

Please just check that every now and then it'll it'll be up there. We'll always read and we'll have always send it

Yeah, tweet or post out when it's updated and we'll do you know just a kind of news brief and then analysis for every move

We also got some stories coming out about both the men's women's teams kind of reflecting on this season

Coming up very soon. So stay tuned for that as well

Tee hee hee hee hee obviously. It's our last game down the offstage. Oh, that's last year. Sorry. It's our last

Game that we covered, but we're still not done with our stories yet

so stay tuned there

um and stick around next year when Hannah and the new blog are gonna absolutely kill it. We're super excited about it

It's gonna be great. Thank you. If anyone knows any lawyers with experience of litigating the NCAA

Feel free to reach out to Samurai

And this is not the last part either. We'll do some fun. Maybe like a mailbag. Yeah, a mailbag. That's a good idea

There's a good one made another draft and a deep ones you a draft. I really want to do a draft

I think we should do some things with like the women's team as well. Kind of evaluating. You know, for sure

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