Eric Blanc is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Oats talked with Eric about his recent book, "Red State Revolt: The Teachers’ Strike Wave and Working-Class Politics" (Verso: 2019). Our discussion connected the teachers' strikes with the broader socialist upsurge in the US and the long term struggle to transform the capitalist state. The following Jacobin article by Eric is referenced during the discussion: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/04/karl-kautsky-democratic-socialism-elections-rupture