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Episode 23: Nobody read the report

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In this episode of the Distilled Security Podcast, we break down the Delve scandal—flawed SOC 2 reports, copy-pasted content, and oversight failures that expose deeper issues in compliance-as-a-service. Joined by Matthew J. Schiavone, we examine auditor accountability, quality review gaps, and key differences between SOC 2 and ISO 27001.

We also cover what companies should demand from auditors, the role of automation, and whether this scandal will drive real change in the industry.

 Topics Covered

  • The Delve scandal—leaked reports, copy-pasted audits & pervasive deficiencies
  • The AICPA peer review process & AC Corp's adverse findings
  • SOC 2 vs ISO 27001—oversight models, witness audits & accreditation
  • The incentive structure driving compliance to the bottom
  • Compliance automation — what works, what doesn't & AI's real role
  • What to ask your auditor before signing anything
  • Trust centers — done right vs. compliance theater
  • Is SOC 2 dead? What needs to change & who has to change it


Hosts

  • Justin Leapline – @justinleapline
  • Joe Wynn – @wynnjoe
  • Rick Yocum – @rickyocum

Hosts

  • Matthew J. Schiavone - (Sikich) 


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