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In this episode, Uncle Jim and the crew reflect on a moment of silence for a personal tragedy, introduce the podcast crew, and discuss various Star Trek topics including fan shout-outs, a special video presentation about Cybok, and engage the audience with polls about their favorite Star Trek movies and characters. The conversation is lively and filled with humor, showcasing the camaraderie among the hosts and their passion for Star Trek. In this episode review, the hosts delve into the intricacies of a high-stakes Star Trek episode, exploring character dynamics, fan reactions, and the thematic elements of teamwork and crisis management. They discuss the references to previous Star Trek lore, the effectiveness of visual effects, and the portrayal of character development, particularly focusing on Scotty's journey. The conversation highlights diverse perspectives on the episode's quality, addressing plot armor and the balance between suspense and predictability in storytelling. In this episode, the hosts discuss the fan ratings of the film 'Off Hour', celebrate the birthdays of notable figures in the sci-fi universe, and delve into classic films like 'Alien'. 
TakeawaysA moment of silence was held for Uncle Jim's Aunt Eileen. The crew introduces themselves in a light-hearted manner. Star Trek 5 is highlighted as a favorite movie. A special video about Cybok was shared with the audience. Fan shout-outs are an important part of the podcast. Polls are used to engage the audience and gather opinions. The hosts express their love for various Star Trek characters. The discussion includes humorous anecdotes and personal stories. The importance of community and connection among fans is emphasized. The episode wraps up with a teaser for the next discussion on Star Trek Strange New Worlds. The episode draws on various Star Trek references, enhancing its narrative depth. Character dynamics, especially in Sick Bay, reveal underlying tensions and conflicts. The crew's response to crisis showcases their competence and teamwork under pressure. Fan reactions indicate a strong appreciation for character development and storytelling. Scotty's journey in this episode marks a significant development in his character arc. Visual effects play a crucial role in creating a believable and immersive experience. The concept of plot armor raises questions about character survival and tension in storytelling. The ensemble nature of the episode allows for multiple storylines to unfold simultaneously. The ticking clock device adds a layer of urgency, reminiscent of other series like 24. Overall, the episode is well-received, with many praising its writing and character work. The fans rated 'Off Hour' an 8.6, while the house gave it an 8.8. Merritt Butrick, known for his role in Star Trek, is remembered on his birthday. Raquel Welsh became an international sex symbol after her role in 'Fantastic Voyage'. Patty Yasutake played Nurse Alyssa Ogawa in Star Trek: The Next Generation. Michael Berryman has had a unique career in horror films. Idris Elba is recognized for his roles in both Star Trek and Thor. The original 'Alien' film is noted for its slower, more contemplative pace compared to its sequel. William Shatner's memoir includes stories from fans and celebrities alike. The hosts reminisce about their experiences watching classic horror films. Upcoming guest Brian Volk Weiss is known for his work in resurrecting Star Trek action figures.

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This week at Vons and Albertsons, USDA Choice Tri-Tip Rost untrimmed are 599 per pound, limit 4 roasts with membership wear applicable, and medium-ripe Hassovicados are 99 cents each, with membership wear applicable. Plus Kellogg's cereals 8.8 to 16.1 ounces, selected varieties, or peppered farm goldfish, 5.9 to 8 ounces, are 190.9 each when you buy three. Limit 3 offers with membership wear applicable. Visit Vons or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema, so I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your doctor about Eppglus? Eppglus, Lebrichizema, LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-mg leader injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms, with moderate to severe Exema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin, or topicals, or who cannot use topical therapies. Eppglus can be used

with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Eppglus. Allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. Eye problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems, you should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Eppglus. Before starting Eppglus, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Pay partnership with Lily. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Eppglus and visit Eppglus.com, or call 1-800-LilyRX or 1-800-545-5979. All the parts and work stories that will just intern about us and about the death of Tashi.

Flash, Gordon, Prudgers, Tom Trapus and Claw and Wars teams hold between you, John Coney, and see you in the video. We talk about the series. You can join us like by the get up your phone now. We talk about the series. We'll come into the new one with you and so the students now. We talk about the series. We'll come to the scene again and we'll be gone with some now. We talk about the series. Coming from Tashi, we speak in town. We think we'll run. Welcome. Welcome. Well, good evening, Shrekies and Shrekers around the globe. It's Thursday, September 10, 2020. I'm your most ex and most uncle Jim. Welcome to the pie class. This is episode 697.

Before we go too far, I would like to take a very brief moment. A moment of silence and a moment of remembrance if you don't mind. Tomorrow, 25 years ago, tomorrow, my aunt and I were in Paris on the 86th floor of the World Trade Center. I think about her at this time every year and seeing how it happened in the East Marl. I just wanted to take a brief moment because I know that there's a lot of people that weren't alive when that happened. But if you were, just never forget what happened. It was real. It was tragic. It was awful. They never found any parts of my aunt's body. She completely vaporized just because she was gone. It had a DNA, a funeral for her. So if you don't mind, I would just like to take a moment right now

of silence if you guys don't mind. Thank you. Thank you for giving me that. And I'm thinking of mine and I will be right now. Okay, that out of the way. Let's have some fun now. I appreciate you guys bearing with me. So as I said, I'm your host, Ethan, Holtz, and Pogem. Welcome to the podcast. And I want to go around the room and introduce my awesome friend, Perth. We're going to start off with BD and Down in Virginia. I can do it all right. It was a hot and humid day. But now I'm cool and calm and we're going to have a lot of fun. So happy to be here. I'm not blue. I'm orange or something. I don't know. Oh, no, that's the, sorry, that's the crack in my screen. I was okay. I'm not orange. Okay, whatever. Next week, I'll be purple. I don't know.

Oh, there's a big purple aliens because they should. I need to be purple. I'm sure that I'm sure they did at some point. And also we have with us from Las Vegas. We have our very own child. Welcome to the show, child. Oh, thank you, Jim. Enjoying our day of heat today. As we get to heat, heat advisory, heat warning today. Supposed to cool off finally and maybe get down to double digits again next week. That's, that's nice. I'll care in Vermont. It's right where we'd expect it to be. It's going to snow to miles. But no, I'm not really really. No, okay. All right. No, just. And now we're going to swing out to our Portland contingent. And we're going to send hello to David. He's our miracle worker on the show. We're together all these awesome videos that you guys enjoy. How you doing tonight, David? I'm doing good. I kind of crossed some

triple eggs, but you know, thank you. You're good. You're good. And also from Portland, we have with us joining. I'm doing very good. As you can see, I've just finished cleaning the transport room on the prize here. Just finished my shift. And so happy to be sharing a drink and some bespokement of Star Trek with y'all. You like that? Overdo. Overdo. That's like you missed a spot. We're not we. We are with us. We're totally excited about next week. Welcome to the show, hall. I'm Eric. Do I? Do I want to know why you need to clean the transport room? Or they're like bodily fluids that we need to find out about? Because between that, that's the that's the holiday pack that you're thinking of. Okay. All right. Because I just wonder about this show because

every, you know, Vee's obsession with cracks and last night with the leather pants thing. It's just, I don't know what's happening. I feel like, you know, it's to be anything. Yeah, getting a steadily more adult. So I don't know. I'm pretty, escaping to a lot of fantasy. That's all I know. Yeah. Exciting. Exciting. Glad to be here. It's going to be a good week. I had an interesting run in with the coyotes. It was really cool. Yeah. The coyotes on the from the movie. No, the coyote, the kind that will eat your cat. If you don't watch here. Yeah. We have we have we have lots of them in our neighborhood. And one started out in front of my rig this morning and I was driving back from the store. It was cool. I like, like to believe as the first nations people do. The coyote is a messenger. He's trying to tell you something. I mean, if he shows up, he's got special connections to the other realms. So I was quite thoughtful after my coyote encounter today. So very cool. Misunderstood animal. Yep. You know, I see all kinds of wildlife on my way to work. So

it's never know what I'm going to run into on my way on the roads here. Could be chickens, cows, coyotes, eaters, mouks. Yeah. Well, I see we have around here. We have horses, cows, sheep, chickens and ducks. So there you go. Yeah, the whole damn it. So if you guys, we have a podcast yesterday, we didn't want to get too far behind because next week we have the toy guru himself is going to be joining us. So we didn't want to get too far behind. So we did a one hour podcast yesterday, uh, chronocons through the hourglass. So you can find that and go over to our page tricktalking.com and you can check out that podcast from yesterday. You can support us by a becoming a subscriber only 99 cents a month. Or you can help us out by making sure the like and share our posts to all of your friends because that gives us a really good algorithm on

tonight. We're going to be talking about we see you for episode six off hour. We're going to have some fun with that. We just have our fans shout out. So let's not forget about that. And our good debt review with our own child. What actors the you share a birthday with on our sci-fi birthday. Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week and what's going on around the universe. And we have a shatter say as well. However, before we go to far, anybody who's watched this podcast or or followed us or like you see behind me my autographed sci-box star for like five poster my Star Trek 5 magazine cover over here. Star Trek 5 is by far my favorite movie. I was so excited that Sci-bocke was going to show up and that I was thrilled and Eric and David put together a really nice video for me which if David has that I'd like to play that for you guys

again today in case you missed our show yesterday. All right, here we go. okay. when you when Shahn, Cong playing on an o-shoot in your dreams it must seem far tour They clap in the seas to the skies be below sea initiative ee sound echo a human being This week at Vons and Albertans, USDA Choice Tri-Tip Rose untrimmed are 599 per pound,

limit 4 roasts with membership wear applicable, and medium-ripe, hassovacados are 99 cents each, with membership wear applicable, plus Kellogg's cereals 8.8 to 16.1 ounces, selected varieties, or peppered farm goldfish, 5.9 to 8 ounces, are 190.9 each when you buy three, limit three offers with membership wear applicable, visit Vons or Albertans.com for more deals and ways to save. It's fall in Jeep country, and during the drive-in-to-fall sales event, get a great deal on 4x4s that refuse to be contained, like Jeep Wrangler. Confidence built into every drive with the most awarded SUV ever, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and freedom that can't be denied, with the open-air freedom in Jeep Gladiator. After 85 years, it's no surprise that Jeep became America's SUV brand, get a great deal during the Jeep Drive-In-To-Fall sales event. Jeep is one more awards over its lifetime than any other SUV brand, Jeep and the Jeep Gorilla Registered Trademarks of FCAUS LLC. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema, so I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your

doctor about Ebglus? Ebglus, Lebrichizmab, LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-mg-liter injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms, with moderate to severe exema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin, or topicals, or who cannot use topical therapies, Ebglus can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Ebglus. Allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. I-problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems, you should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Ebglus. Before starting Ebglus, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Paid partnership with Lilly. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Ebglus and visit Ebglus.com, or call 1-800-LilyRX or 1-800-545-5979. Oh my God, that was so excellent. I brought a tear in my eye. Why do I see Eric as a big, contain type lounge singer just playing systems?

That would be fantastic. But that movie theater marquee just cracks me up. I just lose it over that. Oh my God, and I found that I was like, we have to include this. It was, it says, I'm a buffalo. I think it was in the North of New York. As you guys know, we've been expecting Cybox returns to add the season two, and we finally got it, and that's all I'm going to say. Okay, so I just wanted to play that video for you guys because I enjoyed it so much, and I wanted to make sure that all of our regulars, like you right out there, got it, you need to see it if you miss our Wednesday show. So there you have it. If you're not a subscriber, you didn't get to see that video, or go over to our Facebook page, and subscribe, and you can see that awesome video, and I'm going to pour us. All right, are we ready to dive right in? We always start off our show with our

things and shout outs to be mentioned in a finished shout out. Just head over to our Facebook page for our talking and beyond. You'll see the live long and master pinned to the top of the page. Tell us where you're from. Leave lots of emojis. It catches my attention. If you see a heart next to you name from your truly uncle Jim, then you are going to be mentioned in a finished shout out, like these awesome things that Eric is about to tell you. Eric, he muted. Sorry about that. Somebody muted me. I don't know what was going on there. All right, well, our very first fan shout out this week. Yeah, our very first fan shout out this week goes out to maybe Marie from Amsterdam in the Netherlands, and she sends us a live long and prosper sign. And the number 39, are you telegraphing your age to? I'm not really sure maybe, but at any rate, thank you for saying hello to us from Amsterdam. We really appreciate it.

I'd also like to say hello this week to Sharian Bridge from Germany, who sends us now one, not two, not three, but four live long and prosper emojis. And Lord knows that's how you get Jim's attention. Just pile up on the emojis. It'd be better if there was a cling on battle with emoji, but I'm not sure there is one. Thank you as well for saying hello to us this week to Tobias Parabalam from Minster, Invest Phanelene. That's right. Tobias, thank you so much for saying hello. And Lupi Lorraine is saying hello to us from Scotland sending us that beautiful Scottish flag. And another live long and prosper sign. It was like, that was the emoji everybody was going to use today. It was the the Vulcan hand symbols. Thank you to every single one of you for supporting our podcast and for listening to us and for interacting with us. Hello, Tom. Right. Hey, Jones, in Houston, Texas. Yes. So my first next curk pea to cost from Nebraska. Then Paul Sins is

saying hello and says I'm from Burnett, Michigan. And last but not least, Heather Babby, originally Iowa, South Dakota now. So thank you to all of you for watching and listening to us. All right. Now be claiming whatever is not that for a sick candle. Sorry, never mind. Charles, what who do you have? Thank you, the let's start off with a warm welcome to Chris. The key piece from Southern Oregon, checking in with a live long and prosper symbol. Welcome, Chris. Welcome, Teresa. Grigoo from Mary'sville, Washington, North of Seattle. Teresa, I know you're having great weather because I was just spending last weekend in Seattle. Love the weather. Welcome, Steven P. Brown from Chicago, Illinois. Welcome, Steven. And welcome, Cat Tidstale from Gilbert, Arizona, which I know

where Gilbert is because I live there for a couple of years. Welcome, Cat. Paul, I'm going to hand you the flaming megaphone. Thank you. Everything is flaming today, including many of our tracks, but that's another story. We got an international audience, as you well know, that love not just this wacky podcast, but all things start are related. And let's say hello to the Weezen and from Belgium, overlooking the North Sea there. Wonderful to hear from you, Louise, and what a country you live in. Absolutely amazing. So I aspire to visit there myself, an a little bit warmer climates, shifting condense. We go over to Brazil and how Lycan Fernando is weighing in from Brazil. I'm seeing a lot of this from Brazil today. A lot of live long and prosper, which is brilliant. So lifts us all together from Greece with a alien emoji and the big thumbs up. I have a one word

individual name, Skijofdi from Greece. It could be that Skijofdi is like share, you know, just goes with one name. That's all you really need to know. I am Skijofdi. And that's it, you know, everyone knows who you mean, which is fantastic. And then Irish flag, proudly unfurled. It is top fan from Dublin, Ireland, Rachel Carr saying hello. So we've got folks all over the place just because Star Trek was invented in America and we do a lot of science fiction here. It doesn't mean that it's not beloved over the entire globe from folks everywhere united through the power of the imagination. But I think there may be somebody closer to Uncle Jim. He wants to say hello to here. So let's pass the the roulette wheel of longitude and latitude back over to Uncle Jim. It's Paul in America. Make it count at the Ram Drive-In to Fall Sales event. Make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever. Make it move with the Ram Heavy Duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go the distance with a 10 year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty.

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body craves with protein, fiber, greens, and more. Embrace your salty side. Go to Kachafa.com and use code fitness for 15% off your first order. That's KACHAVA.com code fitness. But anyways I'd like to say hello and thank you to Jack Wilson who's listening somewhere here in Vermont. So nowhere but Jack is somewhere in Vermont. Thanks for being along with the ride. Jack I also want to say hello to Carol Robyn Drescher who is in New York New York, a big apple. The city that never sleeps. Thank you for listening Carol. We also want to say hello and welcome to Mindy Foster who is in Naples, New York. I'm not sure where that's that. I'll have a chat. Well thank you for being a fan and supporting our podcast, Mindy. And last but not least Joe Terrelli who's in Philadelphia and so big. Thank you so much everybody. If you'd like to be

mentioned in our fan chat, please head over to our Facebook page, correct talk, and then beyond tell us where you're from. Even more to get my attention. And we'll feature you. We'll have to use your fan chat out and all these awesome pictures that are going by. Like me interviewing Darth Vader on the screen right now, you can send us your cause by the pictures. And David will add them right there on the screen so you will be immortalized for all the eternity as not only a fan, but a fan of TREK. And I'm not going to do it one day when I met Eric, I tried to kind of owe that. Okay guys. So that's our fan shout out. We're going to going to do some polls right now, which means

I'm going to do some polls. Wow. Another excellent video put together by David and Eric, I must say. So right now we're running a little, a little poll on our Facebook page with the 60th anniversary of Star Trek. I want to find out what your favorite crew would be. If you were the crew of Starship, who would you pick as your crew? So each week I asked a question. And this week we're going to be focusing on our engineer. So take it away if you will, Eric. Yeah, we are talking about who you if you were the captain of your own ship, who would you pick as your engineer? And we've got the roulette wheel of engineers shown on our screen here. And spinning that wheel and looking at the responses that we got from you all coming in sixth out of sixth. We have Belonatoris with only one percent of the vote, which I feel like something happened there.

There's no way that Belonatoris only got one percent of the vote. She literally saves them from being 70,000 light years away from home. Sorry, I'm just like stunned. So whoever answered the poll, maybe one of you said Belonatoris would be your chosen engineer. Coming in fifth place, we have Pellia above Belonatoris, apparently, with 4% of the vote. I'm guessing based on her age and experience and not her disposition. Yeah. Coming in fourth, fourth. Fourth, I'm sorry, I'm just like stunned by this poll. We have Jordi and O'Brien. Literally two of the smartest people we have ever seen in Star Trek only came in fourth as your pick for engineer with 9% of the vote. 9% of the vote. We gave you Jordi and O'Brien

together and you said 9%. I'm sorry, people. You're wrong. Coming in above Jordi and O'Brien at number three, I love this poll so much. It's so crazy. It's TripTucker. And now listen, I love me some TripTucker. There is no question that he did a lot for the Enterprise at X01. He literally sacrificed himself in the end to save the ship. Sorry, spoiler alert. But TripTucker really 14% of the vote went to him that's 6% more than Jordi and O'Brien. Sorry. Coming in, coming in. Just like, all right, coming in second, we have Hammer and Jet Reno at 15% of the vote. 6% above my choice. And of course, number one, which we all knew was going to happen, we have Scotty with 33% of your vote. He is chosen engineer on Jim's

amazing ship of amazingness. I don't know if we need to come up with like your fantasy ship name or something. The USS Shockary. The USS Schessel. So as our first officer pick on the USS Shockary, we have Scotty as our head engineer, getting what is my mass a 24% more of the vote than Jordi and O'Brien together. Sorry. That's our poll for the week. I may have opinions. No. I mean, we literally know that O'Brien is the most important man in Starfleet. That's what we learned from lower decks, right? And Jordi is no slouch. Let's be clear, he's the only guy that understands data's brain, right? He's the only guy with like positronic knowledge other than like talking to the crazy songs and nobody wants to talk to those

guys. Well, the fans have spoken, right? And with the Starfleet movies coming back out in theaters, which I could not enjoy because you're in Vermont. Well, you don't have a movie theater, so that's hard. I didn't get a chance to watch any of these movies, but some of my co-hosts did. So in honor of that, Eric, what was our next poll question? Well, the next poll question, of course, is with Star Trek turning 60, what is your favorite TOS movie? And you have six choices. So, Dremel, please, coming in at number six, no surprise in my estimation is Star Trek 5, the final frontier, despite the presence of the future namesake of the USS Shockery. Coming in at number five, we have Star Trek the motion picture with 7% of the vote, personally shocking. I know a lot of people will find that movie slow and arduous. I find it

delightful and I could watch it 100 times in our own video. Okay. But yeah, 7% of the vote. There you go. Coming in above that, we have Star Trek 3, the search first box. People like it when spot returns. 9% of the vote, that's 2% more than the motion picture. So, you know, slightly edging it out, not a big take over there. Coming in at number three, we have my personal favorite Star Trek 6, the undiscovered country with 13% of the vote. I give it 65% of my vote. But it's probably not worth much in this poll. But you all made it the most the third most popular film. So, that's pretty cool. Coming in at second, we have the one with the whale, Star Trek 4, the voyage home with 27% of the vote. That's a very respectable amount, you know, more than a quarter of you like this as your number one movie. And I know at least one Trek spirit likes it as

their favorite movie. And coming in at number one, no surprise is Star Trek 2, the wrath of con. Because that movie is awesome and because it's short and sweet and simple and everybody loves it and freaking Ricardo Montabon. I mean, come on. 42% of you said that that was your favorite. So, thank you so much for answering our polls and for almost getting all the answers right. Well, Star Trek 5 should have been a little bit higher. But, you know, that's okay. So, I'm saying it, Jim. We should do these polls with like the Trek Spirts and see, you know, put the numbers up against. Oh, yeah, we should. Yeah. All right. All right, guys, all right, press our polls if you want to take in our polls, head over to our Facebook page. Correct. Talk in and beyond and get your votes. And I think what are we doing? Security officer David, what was the one you just did?

No medical officers doctor doctor doctor doctor doctor would you think right? Head over to our Facebook page. Yeah, I wonder who people are going to pick. Click your doctor. I went with Philip Boyce myself. Hey, hey, so as I said, guys, we're going to be discussing the Star Trek Strange New World's episode of ours. Well, before we do that, Charles is going to do some good training. Sometimes flavors need a pinch of salt to unleash their full potential. And life works the same way. Sometimes you just need to get a little salty to keep life interesting and deliciously sweet. Fuel your salty sweet cravings with Kachava's new salted caramel all in one nutrition shake. Just two scoops provide the complete nutrition your body craves with protein, fiber, greens and more. Embrace your salty side. Go to kachava.com and use code fitness for 15% off your first order. That's kachva.com code fitness. Sometimes flavors need a pinch of salt to unleash

their full potential. And life works the same way. Sometimes you just need to get a little salty to keep life interesting and deliciously sweet. Fuel your salty sweet cravings with Kachava's new salted caramel all in one nutrition shake. Just two scoops provide the complete nutrition your body craves with protein, fiber, greens and more. Embrace your salty side. Go to kachava.com and use code fitness for 15% off your first order. That's kachva.com code fitness. Sometimes flavors need a pinch of salt to unleash their full potential. And life works the same way. Sometimes you just need to get a little salty to keep life interesting and deliciously sweet. Fuel your salty sweet cravings with Kachava's new salted caramel all in one nutrition shake. Just two scoops provide the complete nutrition your body craves with protein, fiber, greens and more. Embrace your salty side. Go to kachava.com and use code fitness for 15% off your first order. That's kachva.com code fitness. Take it away, child. Oh, thank you, Jim. And cadet training is where I try taking a Star Trek or other things to

combine that I saw with this episode. Starting off with Star Trek, the motion picture. Because they also got caught in a warm hole. Even though they only were on there for a few minutes other than an entire episode. TLS the cage is where we met Dr. Boyce originally. TLS that which survived from season three is where we met Lieutenant Radha which returned in this episode. Enterprise damaged season three. Example of a severely damaged ship. And I'll co-work on mine mentioned this and give me a couple ideas. This will remind me of Poseidon. Or the airports. The disaster of the week.

Besides a big disaster movie all the airports were big disaster movies. But from there, one I pass over to Paul who can tell us what happened in this episode. Thank you, Charles. It makes me want to go sit down and watch Poseidon Adventure for the hundredth time. I love that picture. So it's great. I heard you first. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Just great. So we're here talking about episode six of the fourth season. Off hour. In which the enterprise is trapped in a very precipitous slipstream warm hole. Turning much anticipated weekend of downtime into a high stakes disaster scenario. So some key plot elements in here at the very beginning. Before things go south, we spent some time in sick bay with Dr. Mabenga and Nurse Chapel arguing over Mabenga's sounds

like he's considering leaving the enterprise and doing something different. And Chapel has been sort of squirrely about maintaining any kind of a permanent posting. And it's in this scene that we get the very first mention of a former enterprise CMO, Dr. Boyce, who was Charles intimated. We see back in the original pilot episode, the cage, subsequently, Managerie. So you do have some callbacks there. We'll get to see Dr. Boyce later in the episode. So you've got your various shifts who work on the enterprise and alpha shifts. It's just been going great guns and really looking forward to some time off. And right as that's about to happen unexpectedly, they run into this high warp phenomenon wormhole that pulls the enterprise into a slipstream, totally frying all of their systems, charging everything with electricity and threatening to tear the ship apart as they continue to accelerate, eventually running the risk of surpassing the warp threshold

where the ship would be literally torn apart. So when this happens, it's very unexpected. So crew members are isolated across different sections of the ship. Various crises are going on. At the very beginning, as Pike is trying to figure out a way to turn the shields on to help mitigate all the supercharged electricity, Pike takes a real dangerous hit from both electricity and has to hand over command to Ortega in the situation here. Scotty gets trapped inside a turbo lift and is asking a resort to even using an American accent to try to make sure the Boyce interface recognizes him. A big centerpiece of this entire episode is in Sikbe, where there's in the middle of huge turbulence and everything shifting around because of the gravitational forces. There's a terrible medical emergency where Dr. Mabangag gets pinned against his heavy lab table by violent ship movements that they don't dare move it or he would

would perish. And Nurse Chapel has to keep trying to figure out new ways to try to do something anything to be able to save him. And gravity is going out all over the ship. The Artifactile Gravity plates are failing and they're trying to do everything, including an incredible scene with number one, where she is trying to run across the lounge there, I think it's the manual override, restore gravity. Wow, and it is a shocking moment, let's just say that happens to her and the injury she addures in the course of that. And all of this involves trying to find particles that will be the potential solution to getting them out of there but also potentially being used for a medical purpose to save Dr. Mabangag. But it means that somebody has to undergo a very dangerous space walk through a severe radiation storm on the outside of the ship to gather the necessary data and potentially suffer critical radiation sickness.

And this is a reference back to the Ion pod from the original series First Season episode Court Marshall, that was cool to see. So a lot of references to prior things in here, the one being one with Pike finding himself in a very similar situation that he did in that same episode there. So again, like Charles said, this particular episode draws on a lot of disaster formats and episodes. I'm thinking about next gen's disaster, the Voyager's Year of Hell, but it is frankly a really refreshing episode because it really focuses on the cruise competence, selflessness and their ability to work in teamwork under pressure. I'm going to pop back later on and talk a little bit more specifics of this episode here. But it's pretty exciting. And I think it was generally pretty well received. All of us trex birds are going to be able to share their opinions and we'll see what our consensus is. But before we get into any of that,

let's find out what you, the fans thought. I get a sense that this was something maybe the fans really enjoyed. Eric, you interpret for me, my friend. Well, here's what I know, Paul. I know that Ryan LaRouche said a solid 9.5, some great character development. I agree with other comments about knowing which character survive, presumably they're talking about Embenga. But it was definitely one of the better episodes yet. Rick Gross said, warp 9.95 for me. Great episode, all caps. Marily Bradshaw Cruise said, big giant 10 with an exclamation point. Thank you, Marily. I love the enthusiasm. John Baker said, so far, best of the season, best of the last two seasons, a viable candidate for best of this series, 9 out of 10. Clive Robert Bell gave it a 9.5. I agree, there was some loss of jeopardy as we know character survive. But my minus 0.5 is due to yet again

using the transporter in ways that wasn't used in TOS, which seemed to be technical innovations in next generation era. I see, Clive. All right, we can talk about that. Thanks. Edward Jess Abbott, a top fan of ours said on the edge of my seat, the whole episode, that's a 10. Jackson Creed gave it a 10 out of 10. I also enjoyed the puppets episode. It brought joy to my bad day. Stefan Parker, another top fan of ours said a solid 9.5. The only reason I lost half-point in my opinion is it would have been better to put characters who we don't know what will happen to them in the most perilous situations I see. So once again, that comment presumably about Embangha. I can't find myself worrying if say Scotty was about to be vaporized when we know his future self isn't a transporter buffer. Yes, it is. Thanks to fun. Other than that, this was a fantastic episode.

Alexander Fernandez gave it an 8.5. It's better than the last few episodes. Kev Orte, over 10, gave it a 9. Far better than the previous episodes this season, with a little barfie emoji. Thanks, Kev. Ashley Williams gave it a 9 because of nitpicks. Who, presumably, Ashley was on her way to 10, but had to take off a few points here and there. Steve Turner gave it a 9. Only negative was not enough pike. You know, I mean, he has become the silver fox of strange new worlds, so I get it, Steven. I get it. And Kurt Dirkson said seven. Still a lot of plot issues, but thankfully, this gives us a combined fan score this week. Second highest of the season of 8.6. Very, very respectable. Absolutely. I have a feeling that score is going to be a little bit higher for the episode. That's awesome. I'm just saying. Okay, so who wants to be?

Being, would you like to start the honors with this episode? Sure. Well, I usually watch each episode a couple times. And the first time, just, you know, go through it. And I usually multitask, but this one just grabbed me from the beginning. And I just sat there and just watched it. I couldn't tear myself away. It was, I think, more start trek than a lot of the previous episodes have been. So, and I can, I have to say that the special effects that they have in this show are really quite amazing. And so I really, I really enjoyed that. Something that I was reminded of, that I harken back to when in the bag, I get injured where he's like basically almost not quite cut in two, but the pressure of the table is basically keeping him alive. Does anybody remember the Emphanage

Chamelon movie Fine with Mel Gibson? And does anybody remember that? Absolutely. Yeah, with his wife that actually emphanage Chamelon is the guy who you know, she's out for a walk and he's out, I guess he was driving drunk or something and he hits her and she's pinned between the car and the tree. And that was the only thing that was keeping her alive was the pressure of the car. So I immediately went to that. But this one had a much better outcome. And just a chapel coming to grips with the fact that she actually, she, she does need to ask to say on the enterprise in a more permanent position. But just her ability to think and how she could save and bang out when boyce basically said, no, you, you know, if there's

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9.5, excellent. So, I'm right there with you V. I love this episode. You guys might have noticed that David and I were making all kinds of memes from this episode that were on our Facebook page. We had a lot of fun with that. This episode we get to see Scottie develop his love of the Enterprise, which will last a lifetime. And he develops his love based on Pelia, telling him to be a miracle worker. That was the first time we would hear that phrase and it would be stuck on Scottie forever. Finally, I would give you the episode of 10. I got to give it a 9 for one reason. Pelia wasn't a muffin. Okay. I know. I'll be getting Pelia with the muffin with the wilds to get it. I know. That was great. I love this episode. Apparently, this episode was another gimmicky episode based on a TV show

called 24 with Keepers Sutherland, which I never saw. I never heard of it. So, I did not know this. But apparently, that show had a 24 hour countdown with a split screen that went back and forth and blabbered. I don't know. Didn't see it. Don't care. Love this episode. This had everything. The crew coming together, working together, learning about themselves. Scottie, I think, was the high point of this episode. Him and the ten are that Asha had a lot of scenes together that I really enjoy. Yeah. Yeah. I just can't say enough good about this episode that they haven't seen it. What are you waiting for? Go watch it. Please. This episode is next to the first episode. I think is right up there with the best that we have seen. Besides the one that's on tonight. So, please go and watch it. Good nominal. I'm giving it a 9. Yeah, I can't say enough good about this episode. Pretty special effects. Great character development. It had everything that makes Star Trek Star Trek.

So, please go watch it and enjoy it. And David, would you like to talk about it? Yeah, sure. First, I want to say that I didn't know that this was an episode that was based off of 24 and I'd never seen that either. So, I didn't know that either. However, this episode, I didn't really think of it too much as a gimmick person because there was a sense of danger. There was a sense of they had to work together to escape whatever problems or anomalies that may have occurred. I actually enjoyed this episode quite a bit. This episode, however, got me confused a little bit, especially in the beginning. Right away, you sent something wrong with Embangue and Trapple. It was just like all of a sudden they just got into this weird banter argument. I got really confused. I was like, why are they so angry with each other? To me, I was just like, I don't know, it kind of lost me there. And so then eventually, they just started to slowly get into the rhythm of what it used to be like,

I guess. But anyway. Yeah. David, if I, if I, if you don't mind me interjecting there, so I think one of the thing that like that whole scene where they're sort of talking about, you know, who's been planning to leave the longest, I guess, is a good way to put it, you know, I think that Christine, like the way that I read this show is that Christine Chapel has always, Embangue was absolutely right. She's always, she's always had one foot out the door, right? She's never committed to being on the ship and that kind of thing. And I think that she feels some internal stress about that, residual from her relationship with Spock and that sort of thing. Like her job is fine, right? It's all the interpersonal stuff that she still has some like baggage about. And and and Embangue, you know, we know that the writers have to get him off the show somehow, right? So, you know, having him to be the guy who's kind of on his way out is kind of no big surprise. So I actually, I actually really liked that they

had that little conflict. And because I don't think it was a conflict between the two of them, I think it was both of them expressing their own internal stress at one another. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like in a moment of emotional strife. Yeah, to me, it was just all of a sudden, it was like the first thing that you see, they've done this kind of like, just seemed like they were angry or something. So it was just like, to me, it just felt really weird and awkward. But I mean, I understand that, you know, Chapel has already been talking about leaving the ship the whole time. And and Embangue, to me, I know that they had to write them off so that they could Russian bones. Like I said, it just feels like it's going to be rushed. But I don't know, it just just felt awkward and just felt like it was off putting to me that whole scene. So, anyways, some of the things that I did like were, gotty. He definitely grew in this episode,

I think. He definitely had, since Pellier was a mentor, they had a great banter between like, you know, I got to calm you. I got to make sure that you're not going to panic and all this because I know you're stuck in a tube and you probably have claustrophobia or something. I don't know. To me, I thought that was pretty good. I actually enjoyed it. And the whole scene with Embangue, I got to bring this back because I don't know what it was. But for some reason, the way that the camera was facing the incident before Embangue got stuck between the wall and the table just looked like, to me, Chapel wasn't in danger. For some reason, she pushed her out of the way thinking that she would save me and it was something to me. I was like, why didn't they just both get out of the way? Well, that wall in between them could have stopped that table. So to me, I was like, that was really weird and bizarre. I just had to get that out because I think they could have done a little bit better trying to picture how that worked. But anyways, yeah. The whole

Bach getting the way to do it again, I thought that was just an homage to Rathicon. So to me, I was just like, oh well. But being able to communicate with the Vulcan, the Vulcan, what do they call that? The Vulcan. I actually thought that was actually a really clever way since she couldn't talk of the writers saying, okay, we need to get the information out there. He can do this. So let's just give the information to somebody who can't talk and communicate. So I actually enjoyed that quite a bit. But other than that, yeah, I would have to probably give this episode. I'm going to go with an eight on this one. Okay, we haven't ate from David. You want to talk to Max? Sure, I would love to. You know, V brought up a really good point and

I wasn't going to start with this. But I think we sort of take special effects for granted these days because every single movie we see has amazing ones, you know, throughout the entire thing. So, yes, I would like to actually say I also appreciate what's going on in terms of special effects in this show. So I'm with you there. So let's see. I really like starting from the beginning, I really liked the kind of ensemble nature of this particular episode. You know, some of our episodes really focus on like one or two characters or maybe have an A and a B story or that kind of stuff. This one felt like it had many story branches, which I thought was great. I immediately, because of the clock, recognized the 24 thing. It was actually honestly a little distracting to me at the beginning because I was like, oh, here we go with the 24 episode. But then it just kind of became part of the texture. So I literally think they could have just

tossed out the clock altogether. There was really no reason to have it there. It didn't build tension in the same way that it did for the show 24. And if you haven't seen the show 24, you should probably see it because it's really, really good. And that running clock actually does build tension in a really effective way in that show. I thought it was less effective here. But the character interactions were great. Nothing was fake. Nothing was phony. I thought I was neat to have all of the different stories going on. Some of my favorites, of course, included the Embangue story that people have already talked about. The fact that Christine Chappell wouldn't give up on Embangue feels super duper star trekky to me, right? Like she's whatever she does. She's going to stay there until the end through the minus 400 degrees, they said or something. I don't even know. I forgot to look up what absolute zero was, but it must be right in that same range.

There was plenty of track no babble going on, which I was delighted about, honestly. That's one of my favorite things about star trek is when they start talking about pseudo science and making it sound like, oh yeah, I could totally be possible if I only knew what a, you know, cronoton was or whatever. So I appreciated that. I appreciated obviously the, I think somebody else already said the kind of the development of Scotty's love for the Enterprise. Like you could tell in this episode he starts to love her as an entity, right? There was that moment when the switch was sort of flipped and he was touching the wall and Pellia and him were talking to one another. So I really appreciated that. And the whole quote about starships are capable of miracles. If you listen, you just have to be a miracle worker. I think Jim mentioned that. I really like that. A couple other characters had great

moments, you know, this spot on the outside of the hole getting pinged with the stuff was really cool. And then him failing and Laan having to sort of take over. I thought that was really cool. Somebody else already mentioned, Luna doing the gravity, the super gravity scene and kind of like having to push through to help the team. So I guess if I had just like one criticism of this episode, it would be that maybe this is just me. And maybe I'm not desensitized enough to modern television. But we, you know, we had a couple of like body horror moments, you know, it's not like a horror episode like that, that other one that I thought was absolutely awful. But you know, we get Luna's leg breaking in a really terrible way. And you get to see everything, you know, was that was that necessary? I don't know. You know, maybe I'm just too sensitive. Like chapel leaves part of a frozen finger on a table. Was that necessary? You know,

I don't know. It felt like a little bit too much for me. You know, that we've already talked about Spock and his radiation burns. That was that was fine kind of foreshadowing at that. So, you know, that's probably just me and not like a super fan of body horror stuff. Although on occasion, I do really like it, which is weird. I guess I just don't expect it from my Star Trek is where I am. So, so yeah, I overall thought this was a great episode. I really enjoyed it. I gave the opener a nine. I don't think this one was quite there. So I'll give it, I'll give it an eight and a half, 8.5. Not afraid of that point. Five. Yeah, yeah, it was a darn good episode. Sometimes flavors need a pinch of salt to unleash their full potential. And life works the same way. Sometimes you just need to get a little salty to keep life interesting and deliciously sweet. Fuel your salty sweet cravings with Kachafa's new salted caramel all in one nutrition shake. Just two scoops provide the complete nutrition your body craves with protein, fiber, grains,

and more. Embrace your salty side. Go to kachafa.com and use code fitness for 15% off your first order. That's kachva.com code fitness. So, there you go. There we have it. 8.5 from Eric. Where about you, Charles? You get to follow up at 8.5. Okay, well, I'll try to follow up. Okay, I was chatting a little bit about this with our hosts when before we got started in the green room. The one thing about the boys and the chapel, the chapel incident is one chapel where if you used to follow an order from a higher up commanding officer. And we know that boys in chapel both show up in TOS. So they both have what we call plot armor.

So we're going to try and making up what looks like a big death scene for boys. When we know he's not going to die because he still shows up. Which I thought, yeah, I'm not sure. Actually, actually, Charles. Paul, please correct me if I'm wrong. But the only time that we see Phil Boyce is in the cage, which happens about five years, but that's episode, right? Yeah, I would say it's about right. And there's no death scene for boys in this episode. Not boy, not boy star. I'm in Bega. I'm in Bega, not police. I'm talking to you. I got my name wrong in my notes. And Bega and chapel. And Bega and chapel both have plot armor. So the fact that OK, and Bega is going to go through a big death scene. It's like, no, he can't. He's still living. I apologize for getting the name wrong. I watch what I put in my notes real quick. As Eric said, and I kind of think it, the timer popping up right as the episode started was confusing.

It's like, OK, when Scotty says, OK, we got this much time. That would have been a good time for the timer to show up. And then I don't think we would have had quite as much the 24 hour feel. But it's like, oh, they're talking about going off, having some time off and joining the evening by evening and not having to work. And the timer's going up to, why is there a timer? Why is there a countdown? I will say, definitely, it was a good use of a casha. That new Balkan cadet was pretty stiff. The couple of times we've seen her. Well, this time she still had that look to her. But she was still challenging Scotty. She was getting, well, why can't you do this? It's like, well, I can't. Well, yes, I could do that. So I like her trying to challenge Scotty into doing things,

which we talk about this one. I think this is getting closer to TOS Scotty. The miracle worker. This is really, I think, kind of hitting the point where we're getting a lot closer to the Scotty. We're used to them TOS, but he is the miracle worker. I think Scotty's starting to get closer to that. And the reverse mind meld. I was thinking in the fact that the person who's doing the mind meld is supposed to sit there and say, my mind, a year of mind. That was first time I think we've ever seen somebody really reverse that. So I'd be curious if that's a possibility to actually do or not. But I think with a couple of things in this episode, I think I'm going to go with an eight. Good episode, but I think there's some things I really could have done, not done because of the plot

armor. So I think as far as the mind meld channels, we don't know what they did or didn't. I see no member from TOS that it's typical for Vulcans to mind meld with significant others. And we know that Laon is far more significant. So it's totally possible that they could have mind meld off screen when they were pond firing or whatever they were doing when they were dancing in the corner. And that opened up the pathway for her to reach out to him as the way I was envisioning that. But you're right to see it done the opposite way with strange. But I'm not right. So that leaves us with Paul who gets to bring up the caboose as usual. He gets to get the whole thing the whole as the engineer. And he gets to bring it off to a whole as our caboose.

What do they call the guy in the caboose conductor? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I'm it's like the guy who comes in to close out the base engineer. And that was his final. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. I appreciate it. Now get a cochlear implant and I'll be better. Okay, let me make no bones about it. This is a fantastic episode. This is a dynamite episode. This is the kind of thing that you're hoping you're going to get all the time. One of the things I loved about this episode and it was just they went out of their way to remind us of how terrifying the void of space can actually be when the only protection you have is being sealed up inside of a fragile machine. I mean, they really made it tangible. The ship is constantly creaking and groaning and in danger of some kind of structural collapse or another. The way is it's death is just right around the corner. I thought that was done in a

really realistic fashion. I thought it was outstanding, really, really cool. I do not think this was any kind of a gimmicky riff on 24 at all. I must take issue with that. I think they're used to similar device of having the countdown a real time. But there's plenty of movies and plenty of other things other than 24 that did that because 24 was a show that's based in one hour in real time each week and that's not what was going on here at all. What this reminded me of more was there's phenomenal premiere episode of Battlestar Galactica, the Ronald Lee Moore remake that's called 33. It's like the first episode of the first season. You watch it and you're going to have a hard attack the whole time. It's just so stressful. It's just time becomes a real element because it's just the stakes are so extreme. I thought this episode and the use of that shipworn chronometer readout was done very effectively, very definitely, just really, really well. I think that Jess Busch got to do some of the best acting I've ever seen or do. I thought that she was basically running like

a workshop in the scenes with Mabenga in Stikbe. There was no confusion for me. Maybe it's just confusing because we're not used to seeing such good character work. This was character work and it was a really well written scene that was about them and their respective struggles is beautifully done. No confusion at all for this viewer. Absolutely a great way to start things out there. I admit that I took a deep breath when Pellea showed up because she's one of my least favorite characters, but she was way less annoying than usual in here and actually sort of was helpful. I think they broke her in an appropriate way and she was great in terms of how this was. She was a lot of her usual mannerisms were toned down. I just thought it was fantastic. I had a hiccup for me when I'm watching these kind of episodes. Just do my own little cadet training moment here. It really drives me crazy, typically in the Star Trek universe, when you show characters surviving on the

crawling amount on the outside, all of a ship during war. It's strange. I know we're supposed to believe that, oh well, if the warp drive has a localized warp bubble that bends space-time around the vessel, you're safe so long as you stay inside that protective pocket of normal space. It's so hard to buy that nonsense when he's like with the gravity thing is climbing on the hull and he's being bombarded. You need to read more about Star Trek physics, dude. It's totally believable. I really don't because I'm a viewer, not a technical person, right? Yeah, but you were complaining about a tiki-taki technical thing right now. Yeah, but I'm complaining about how it makes me because it doesn't seem plausible. It seems nonsense. The episodes like Star Trek physics, right? Because it's fictional, Eric. It's fictional. It's not real. It's not real. Okay, yeah. So, so there's a thing called suspension of disbelief and I shouldn't need a physics degree to have suspension of disbelief. That's not how drama works. Okay, end of discussion, but it's just like

episodes like, man, man, please continue. I mean, man, please continue. Oh, absolutely. Star Trek Discovery had one red directive where we got Michael Burnham on the outside of the ship. They did the same thing in Prodigy with Mind Walk where, you know, doll rails inside Janeway crawling around the outside of the, it's become an endless thing. We've seen this so many times. And it's it's it's strange credibility for it, right? And I don't I'm not gonna get at the technology and all this explanations because it's all head-gannet stuff. And it's not real. So, it's just it's it seems pointless to belabor it, you know, but I thought this was a terrific episode. I was really happy with it. Extremely well-written, right? And that's for me is the bottom line. Good writing. And you know, I watched it a couple times. I will tell you though, on a second viewing, the whole crawling on the outside of the ship didn't bottom me as much. I accepted it, you know. It was initially I was just like, oh, here we go again because we've seen that so many times, right? And some of the remind me of some of the Focacna science used to get on discovery all the

time. But in the second viewing, I was so caught up in it, I didn't care. And I don't have the same and an issue you all do with the clot armor thing. I was on the edge of my seat with Mabenga, right? Yeah, he's gonna show up later on. But there's so many things are different in original series on this show. I don't even consider it the same thing. It's like this is like a different universe. You know, it's like nobody in the original series had ever even seen to bring before. But she's wondering in another bathroom every freaking episode on just strange new world. So it's like, you know, go record, you can't reconcile these two shows. They're different realities, right? They're different areas. It's pointless to try to do that, right? Do you buy it when you watch it? That's the bottom line. And when I watched it a second time, I bought it. I thought it was exciting. And I thought it was a really great, the use of music, the use of the ticking clock, really phenomenal. And this is what I look for in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, and the science felt believable to me, you know, to have chapel be the one who's like talking about the

explanation in what felt like a really convincing manner. So for me, this is what I'm looking for. 10 all the way. Wow, wow, let's impresses. I think we may have opinions this week. I just wanted to say that the whole thing, someone collect me or look this up, there was an episode called Starshipingo. I think strange new worlds where there was a scorch mark on the outside of the enterprise and Una and on walk on the hall to get to the scorch mark. And that's when we find out that the shields of the enterprise aren't actually, they're like 10 feet off the hall, but there's actually room to walk. I'm pretty sure it was strange in where else that introduced. Yes, it was. Yes, that's where I went. I thought that was weird,

but at any rate, what does our, our score hold up with against our Facebook minions, Charles? How well did we do or how well did they do? Okay. The fans gave in 8.6 and the house gave in 8.8. Wow. So we're right there with the fans. We're right there with the fans. That's rare, but awesome. Okay, cool. So that wraps up our discussion on off hours. So you haven't seen it. What are you waiting for? Go and check it out. It's awesome. And this is a part of the show where we do our sci-fi birthdays. We always start off our sci-fi birthdays by

savvy enough remembering those members of our vast sci-fi universe who are no longer with us for that return. Yes, Jim. This week we remember actor Merit Buttrick, the American actor best known for his role as David Marcus, a doctor, David Marcus, in Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Con, in Star Trek 3, the search for Spock. And a photo of him also appeared in Star Trek 6, the undiscovered country, two years after his death. He later played Tajon in the next generation first season episode symbiosis. Merit's first major role in television was portraying the supportive character John Slash and the sitcom Square Pigs from 1982 to 1983. He has a couple of other things on his IMDB page, but unfortunately we lost him at the very young age of 29 years old. You can look that up if you would like to learn more about that. Merit Buttrick lost back in 1989 happy birthday to him.

Happy birthday as well to Mira Furlin, a Croatian American actress and singer best known for her roles as the mini-bari ambassador, Taline, in the television series Babylon 5, and as Danielle Rousseau in Lost. She also appeared in multiple award-winning films such as When Father Was Away on Business, and the Abandoned. Happy birthday to Mira Furlin. Happy birthday to Bruce Gray, the actor who played Admiral Chico Tain, not that one, in the Deep Space Nine second season episode The Circle, and Star Trek the next generation seven season episode Gambit Part One. He later played Sirok in the Star Trek Enterprise four season episode Awakening. Yes, that's Sirok. Gray starred in the entire run of the Canadian series Traders and had a reoccurring role on Babylon 5, and the American version of Queer as Folk as well. In 2008 he made a brief appearance on Boston Legal, of course

interfacing with William Shatter on that show. So happy birthday to Bruce Gray. Happy birthday to Reggie Nolder, the actor who played Ambassador Shrass in the TOS second season episode Journey to Bable. Of course he's the first canonical endorian that we see on screen. He was born Alfred Reginald Nazler in Vienna, Austria, the son of actor and operetta singer Sigmund Nutsler. He was often cast in villainous roles due to his unique facial features, the result of disfiguring burns to the lower part of his face acquired as a young man. He also appeared in the original Manchurian candidate, TV's adaptation of Salem's Lot from 1979. And he was a sadistic witchburner in 1970s Mark of the Devil. So Reggie Nolder, typecast perhaps because of his physical visage, but we got to see him as an endorian, which was pretty cool. Happy birthday to him. Happy birthday. Did anybody out the

Salem's Lot scared of a living being Jesus out at anybody else? What could it be when I saw it? Yeah. Well, I mean, that lucky. It's terrifying. Just look at his image on the screen. That gave me nightmares when I was a kid. That original Salem's Lot was just like a lab. I wasn't allowed to watch it. That's why I don't watch horror movies. That was a good one. All right. Moving on. Happy birthday to Rock Hell Welsh, the actress, model and singer who won attention for her role in Fantastic Voyage from 1966, after which she made 1 million years BC. Although Welsh had only three lines of dialogue in the film, images of her in the Doe skinned bikini became the selling posters wonder why that turned her into an international sex symbol. She later starred in bedazzled bandilero, 100 rifles, Mira

Breckenridge and Hany Colder. She made several television variety specials along the way. And I see her in the new adventures of Superman, apparently, and they're on the screen. Very interesting. Happy birthday to Rock Hell Welsh. And last but not least, I'd like to say Happy Birthday to Petty Yasutake. Petty Yasutake was the actress who played Alyssa Ogawa in 16 episodes of the next generation and in two Star Trek films, including Generations and First Contact. Yasutake remembered watching the original series together with her family on television. Several years later, she auditioned for the part of an unnamed con officer on the next generation, but wasn't cast. After she first appeared as Nurse Alyssa Ogawa in the fourth season episode of Future Imperfect in 1990, she wasn't convinced that she would be called back to play this part again. But she was also originally a contender for the role of Keko O'Brien back in the day,

introduced, of course, in the same season, originally or eventually cast to Rosalyn Chao. But Petty Yasutake did an amazing job as Nurse Ogawa. She also portrayed Alyssa Ogawa in a Hallmark television commercial in North America, apparently, where she seen questioning the shipboard computer about the features of the USS Enterprise D keepsake ornament. I haven't seen that one, but it sounds interesting. She was also on a couple other shows, TJ Hooker, Scarcro and Mrs. King, many times cast as a doctor in television movies. So, Petty Yasutake, thank you so much for your contributions. We lost you just a couple of years ago, the fifth of August, 2024. So just a little over two years ago at the age of 70 years old, happy birthday to Petty. And that does it for our remembrances. So I would like to pass our gently lit birthday candle over to V.

Well, he was my bestest gloves to retrieve said candle. So thank you, thank you V. Yes, lots and lots of birthdays. A real unusual cat. I'm happy to be able to wish a happy birthday. The great Michael Barryman, who we talk about on Star Trek Circles for playing a couple different roles. He was in Star Trek 4 in the Voyage Home as a Starfleet display officer and had a really interesting part in Next Gen's first season episode conspiracy, one of my favorites, where he plays Captain Ricks there. This guy has been in so many different horror movies over the year. Michael Barryman's got like a very unusual condition. It's a hypohydrotic dysplasia. It's a condition where you basically have an absence of sweat glands, hair and fingernails. Very unusual. So he has a unusual striking appearance, but he's turned it into an iconic career. I mean, he's been in so many different motion pictures over the years, way back to like 1977.

Right? He was in an early West Craven picture called the Hills Have Eyes about these, you know, kind of mutated in-bred folks who live in the nightmare road trip of your worst imaginal possibilities. If you've never seen it, it's pretty wild, but he just shows up all over the place in all kinds of different pictures, but a striking individual, very cool and what an amazing career he's created. So also was in Milos Formins, one flew over the cookers nest with Jack Nicholson, so really, really amazing career. So happy birthday to you, sir. Happy birthday to the legend, Idris Elba, okay? One of the greats, absolutely phenomenal portrayal. Yeah, a lot of people recognize him as playing Heimdall, right? On, you know, in Thor movies, the Avengers movies. He played a captain in Ridley Scott's Prometheus, but he's also appeared in the Star Trek franchise in Star Trek Beyond. He played the sort of villainous character, Crawl, if you will. I'm a big fan

of this guy, though, for a lot of his other work, okay? If you've never seen the British television program Luther and the subsequent standalone films that have spawned off of Luther, run, don't walk. Some of the best plot crime police procedures you will ever, ever see, and of course, he really came into prominence on the classic HBO series The Wire as a character named Strigger Bell. Amazing, amazing role. So it's like this guy's a legend, but beyond Star Trek, absolutely phenomenal. I believe recently hated as well. So Idris Elba, pretty much a guaranteed home run, if he casts this guy, he's phenomenal. Happy birthday to Michael Keaton, very prolific character actor, of course, known for many, many comedic roles early in his career, dramatic roles at We Are Talk of Beetlejuice, right? Beetlejuice played in Spider-Man Homecoming, he played The Vulture, and of course, in 1989, underneath the mantle of Tim Burton,

was the first character to play motion picture version of Batman and the modern era, and of course, the sequel Batman Returns. So absolutely amazing, but always does really, really great work. Rare to find actors who can throw themselves into comedy and and Rala with equal, got a big part in the first cars movie as well. It's a sort of irrascible antagonist in there. He's very, very funny. Love his work. Very cool. Michael Keaton is still great, dude. Happy birthday also to Keone Young, a wine-born actor, play the role of Buck Bokai, in Deep Space and I's first season episode, if wishes, work horses. Also popped up over there and enterprises second season episode, Vanishing Point as Mr. Sato as well. So pretty amazing to be in a couple different aspects of the Star Trek universe and very, very cool. So happy birthday, Keone Young. And this guy, I don't think he's ever taken a day off in his life seems like he's

constantly, constantly working all the time. The great Jeffery Gomes. Wow, where did it even begin with this guy? He's just done so much stuff, okay? Actor has the distinction of playing nine different characters so far across four different Star Trek television series. Of course, Brunt and the various Wayun's on Deep Space Nine was recently immortalized in an action figure formed by next week's special guest Brian Volquise in the Nisel range. So you've got a Jeffery Gomes. You made it to action figure immortality, which is no easy thing to achieve. We played Thalik Shron, of course, on Enterprise. We can talk more about Shron at some other point, but then phenomenal character and then voiced Agamus on the Lower Decks episodes, etc. etc. But he's done tons and tons of great horror movie work as well. Reanimator series comes to mind for me, but it's just a knockout, really, really entertaining, brings a lot of high octane energy to his roles.

Just not hold back. Well, just a great characteristic. So absolutely great, but go check out some Jeffery Gomes horror movies if you never have and discover his universe beyond Star Trek, which is pretty, pretty cool. So that's what I've got from my birthdays this weekend, and we'll see what Uncle Jim's got for us next. This is one of my favorite segments. I love that Jim reaches into the back of a sock drawer and comes up with something that is beloved from his memories. Uncle Jim, what is beloved for you this week, my friend? Well, I've got some great movie, but first I got to show you this baseball card. Can you guys see this baseball card? Is it the blob? Is that it? Oh, no, here it is. Oh, okay. Buck Bokai. Yes. I was out of Star Trek Prevention. Well, I was out of a multimedia anime convention, and I'm walking through the autograph from like, I don't know any of these people. And I see him at a corner. I said to him,

I'm going to be here on a certain way to be here. I said, wait a minute. Is that dude? Is that Bok Bokai? Is that the guy from Deep Space Nine? I'm always like, no, how can you remember that? I said, I think it is. And I went over and sure enough, it was. And he had these baseball cards right here on his table. And I bought one of them, signed it for me because I'm a baseball fan as well. So I have an autograph of Bok Bons on a baseball card on the Space Nine. So I just wanted to share that with you guys. I thought that was pretty cool. So that's our conscience. That's our conscience. Story of the Week. Okay, so now that we're going to move into the movie of the Week, we want to start off with the blah, which is released on September 10th and 1958. I think there's been several remakes of this movie, but this is the original scene in the Queen of the Blah. Another movie that was released this week was Psycho released on September 8th, 1960. My God, who, you know,

Psycho? Do we need to say any more? Janet Lee was in this movie. This is Jamie Lee Curtis's mother. You know, Anthony Perkins, this movie is a classic. If you haven't seen it, it's well worth checking out a phenomenal, phenomenal movie from Alfred Hisscock. And the next one that's on our list, released on September 8th, 2017, Stephen King's It. Now, this was not the TV series. This was the actual motion picture of it's scariest. Hell, Stasgard plays an incredible penny-wise decline. If you haven't seen that, check it out. It's definitely worth watching. Next is another movie. This is a classic. This is one of my favorites. It's one of these 80s cheese movies right here. That'll be on the stars. It was released on September 8th, 1980, starring John Boyd. And this is a Roger Corman classic. It's cheesy. It's 80s, but it's so

much fun and it's well worth the watch. If you have not seen it, check it out. Please. Next on our list is a more recent movie. The Predator, which was released on September 6th, 2018, and a last on my list is, wow, I don't know, is daily, and which was released on September 6th, 1979. This movie, what can I say about this movie that hasn't already been said, absolutely outstanding movie. And what movie am I going to pick as Uncle Jim's movie pick of the week that you shouldn't miss? David, roll the tape.

That's right, everybody. In space, no one can hear you. So, Alien was a landmark science fiction horror movie, which was released in 1979 between Star Wars and the Empire Strikes Back. It was a stylish, molyvelin alternate from George Lucas' stage fantasy, partially inspired by the 1950s to terror from beyond stage. This instant classic that is home of its own, offering richly detailed sets, ominous tatmissphere, relentless suspense, and a flawless, unsobble past that featured Tom Scarrett, Gourney Weaver, and Veronica

Cartwright, just to name a few there in that picture right there. As the crew of the space freight and a stromo who fall prey to a vicious, daily creature. Any of the trucks parked see this movie in the theaters? Oh, yeah. Opening weekend. Yeah. Opening weekend, absolutely. I just thought it was rated R. So, I wasn't allowed to see it. Didn't stop me from seeing it though. We bought that. I think we bought tickets for Bambi or whatever. We all went into the bathroom. We were there for the movie started and the ticket taker wasn't there and we snuck into watch Alien. That's all I had to do in 1977. I mean, I think we'd be scared to crap out of me. The scene with the chest burst with the buckets of blood everywhere and a little alien popping out of the chest

after all the intestines, uh, nightmares for weeks after that. Uh, Yeah, I was, Jim, I was fortunate to be able to see this movie just this past Monday on the big screen at the Hollywood theater here in Portland and one of the things I was struck by was the fact that the movie has such a different pace to it from aliens, which I think is the movie that many people like many more people have probably seen. This movie much like Star Trek The Motion Picture has a slower pace to it. It's a little bit more contemplative. They try to build things up a little bit more by today's standards. The jump scares are not particularly effective in my like opinion, but it's still a classic because not only does Sigourney Weaver give like an amazing performance, but as you were just talking about, all of the characters here are amazing and it was fun also to kind of go back to the beginning and watch Alien again because there are so many things that show

up in that movie that then show up later in some of the Prometheus, uh, you know, universe films, which I think is kind of cool too if you've seen some of the more recent Alien theme stuff. So, yeah, having just seen this movie last Monday, I can tell you that it still holds up for me, but I'm also a person who kind of likes slower-paced, more contemplative movies with moments of action or moments of excitement, you know, versus something that's just like bam, bam, bam, which is what the movie after this one is. Constant action. For me, I was, for me, I was too young to probably see it in the theater, but this was definitely a regular HBO movie on cable and this is, I know, that's where I caught it, it was cable. I don't know, um, I don't know one version of the movie that

you guys saw, but there's a director's cut. The original version of the movie did not have the egg scene. Uh, at the end of the movie, when Sigorni grabs Jonesy and is running through the duck work to get to the shuttle, she finds Captain Dallas, but who, and he wants her to kill him, and of course she torches the whole chamber. That scene was added into the director's cut much, much later, was not featured in the original film, which actually ties Alien closer into Aliens with the Queen, so I thought that was interesting. Jim, it was, it was shown in the version I saw on Monday, so it was the director's cut. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's a, it's an restored version of the movie. So that's, that's Uncle Jim's movie. Take other week guys, tale in 1979, Sigorni Weaver's first motion picture. All right. So that wraps up Uncle Jim's movie, take of the week that wraps up our starter birthdays, and that brings us to Star Trek news.

All right. We're always standing off our Star Trek news. If possible, with a segment on, and there's says what, I'm just what, you said something this week, and Erick and I'll tell you all about it. Yes, Jim William Shatner shares fan stories in William Shatner and you. He says, it was a pleasure to talk to the people in the book who shared perspectives that I will always treasure Shatner writes in his book. The legendary Star Trek actor 95 years old has collected stories and perspectives from all those who have shared his life with him from famous friends to dedicated

fans in William Shatner and you. We actually read a story about this probably about a year ago. Shatner's unique memoir, the actor announced his memoir in August 2025 and calls upon fans to submit their stories and memories of how his work has impacted them. A select few were then chosen to be interviewed by Shatner himself for the book. He says, my greatest joy has been the connection I've shared with fans over the years. William Shatner and you is a celebration of them, their stories, their passion, and the bond we've built together. The people who have been influenced by Star Trek are so numerous Shatner writes in his memoir. I was astonished by the complexity of what we've uncovered. It's given me a deeper insight into our audience. It was a pleasure to talk to the people in the book who shared perspectives that I will always treasure. Among those interviewed for the memoir are celebrity friends Ben Stiller, Josh Groben, Weirdo Al Yankovic, Jason Alexander,

Jeff Bezos, and Seth McFarlane. Fan stories featured have come from all walks of life including members of the military, first responders, and others who quote, overcame incredible obstacles. Shatner penned his memoir with the help of co-author Joshua Brandon, who the actor previously worked with to create boldly go reflections on a life of awe and wonder in 2022. Fans have given me the gift of a lifetime, Shatner said in an announcement of his memoir on his website, this book is my chance to return that gift by telling their stories and hours together. William Shatner and you is on sale exclusively through Amazon on August 31st, which was about 11 days ago, so presumably you can grab her right now. You know what, Eric? He didn't pick me. Yeah, he didn't. Did you send one in? I told him how great Star Trek 5 is, how I worship the movie.

He's the greatest director of all time, made the best Star Trek movie ever produced. I mean, I ported all right on there and I didn't get picked. Sorry Jim. Well, at least we made you a video, Jim, so I always have to shock our review video to fall back. So that, my friends wraps up the podcast for this week. If you haven't watched a least episode, wow, is all I want to say. Check it out. Three times, I've watched it already. It's that freaking good. We won't be talking about it next week because why won't we be talking about it Paul? This is our last shameless quad because we have the phenomenal Brian Volk Weiss as our guest. Absolutely amazing. This is the CEO and founder of Nassau Toy Company, man who's resurrected Star Trek 2 figures better

than they may have ever been before and who's also just recently unleashed his, I believe it's five part Star Trek documentary series on all the different platforms at the center chair. Part two. So this is the big sequel where he talks about all the different iterations of post-original series motion pictures that came. So really, really cool to get that insight. I've watched a few of these already from part two of the novel documentaries. I mean, he gets access to everybody you can think of. They're really well cut together, extremely well edited, I'd recommend them and all narrated by the wonderful Gates of Xan. So definitely, the guy who gets things done is how I would describe Brian Volk Weiss excited to be able to talk to him about toys and movies and other things. So very cool. So definitely an episode you don't want to miss next week. And watching that, I think it was episode five, I was really surprised to find out that

Star Trek five was not the lowest grossing Star Trek movie of the franchise. The movie that bombed even worse than Star Trek five. Star Trek beyond. So there you have it. Go and watch it. If you don't believe me and you want to find out for yourself, go and watch episodes. One of them actually watch all five episodes, but eager anticipation for the 51 when you can find out that interesting stuff. So I'm not sure if we will do a special Wednesday podcast. I'm going to wait for all of my co-hosts to watch this episode. And if they feel inclined, we may do a special show. If not, we'll just be a week behind and I'm okay with that as well. I'm just really excited to talk about this episode. I love it. But I can wait because we're going to talk to Brian. And I do have an invitation now to cadet Asha herself. I haven't heard anything

back, but hopefully maybe. So come on the podcast and talk with us about her time working on Strange New World. I'll keep you guys in the loop. Without any further ado, unless there's anything else to it, my co-host wanted to mention or bring up. Nope. Yes, maybe. Okay. That wraps up the podcast. So I'm your most excellent host Uncle Jim. And I want to say thank you to our miracle worker and self-David for putting together this awesome podcast. Thank you so much, David. Hi, you're welcome. You're fine. I've got to ask some stuff. You and I are going to be working on over the weekend. I'll get you some pictures and we're going to get to work. So I'm going to look forward to it. And I also want to say thank you so much to Charles for joining us from Las Vegas. Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Jim. Always fun talking, Trek. And of course, let's not forget the thank you so much for joining us from Virginia V. It's been great

to have you tonight. And of course, let's not forget Paul. Thank you for joining us, Paul and chopping it a bit for next week. Don't, so it'll be fun. I'm going to ask you about a side bot. You never know. Well, he does dig into the back catalog. So you never know. He's making a bent dig here, I believe, from the animated series. Yes, yes. So it's nothing's impossible. You just have to convince him. Oh, I'll show on the video. The Eric and the convincing. Boy. I bought the blame of all those shit. Of course, one of the things that you so much to Eric, climbing out and shred talking with us. Thank you so much, Eric. Yeah, you bet. Thanks.

And I'm in most Texan holes. Uncle Jim saying everybody please stay safe and be good to each other. Ailing frequency are closed. Good night, everybody. Good night. And long and prosper. Why too? Number one. You're the captain. Ready for war, sir. Mark it, Halloween Patrick. Your bedroom. Are you doing that with $200,000? Really?

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