Episode 914 | "Cult Fish"

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Hey

I'm more than just an option. You look like that boy. Look at you. You try to steer up with the sun boy. Look at us

Like you serious. I was reading the board

Hello, hey you guys

What up, y'all? What up? Let's pop it. How are we feeling? Oh my god

I'm more than just an option face. Look at this nigga. Best I have a head face.

You look like you you look like Marvin

Why you look like you who the song was about man Marvin in the face

Like Marvin. Oh, it's good to see y'all. It's probably good to see every single

Good to be my brothers. Y'all look all good. Y'all look all good. Y'all look good. Y'all look all good. What's up, man?

He said I was following his name saying you know, I got a butcher you had it first. Thank you. Thank you said no one ever. I know this is the one time that it's been said. I

Don't know if it's true. Now he better live bedazzle. Yeah, I mean fire. He told about the brand. I know the fire the fire slip was wearing bedazzles before your button

Repeat that. You're the most bedazzle. Yeah, I'm sure you're the most bedazzle. Yeah, you got it. Let's do a nigga's fight.

Mark was something man. That man life is good all the time. I have no complaints man. Good. Good.

Yesterday my wife. Why are you so calm? Yeah, I'm just chilling. I'm in the good. I'm in the good. I'm not a little cold too, but I'm trying to clear my throat. But my wife. My son is offered two weeks. Apparently his school takes two weeks off.

And my wife signed him up for spring break at camp, except she didn't sign them up. So when I drove there yesterday and got there, he went on the list. Oh, shit.

So I did everything I could to convince I tried to. I mean, I was pulling my money out my. Please. They weren't having it. So I spent yesterday trying to find a new place for him for two weeks. So I signed him up hotel.

I signed I registered for a whole new school. They think he's goes there now. And I signed him up. I'm gonna pull him after two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And they were like, but you know, I got a doctor. Yes, I went to a doctor. I got it. I got immunizations.

But I don't have. I'll make up. I dropped them off today. He seemed like he liked it. I didn't stay long. But yeah, I dropped them at the church. I was doing drugs. I didn't drive. I gave him all the paperwork and stuff. I gave him the check. But then I was out. I'll tell you what it's about. I gave him the check.

I gave him this to Sister Mary Claire. So you saw somebody for the next two weeks. Yeah, that's pretty much it ain't fair dog. I almost had a heart attack when I brought him to that school yesterday said. No. Yeah.

I feel like it was a little personal, too. I think they could have did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I mean. And did you have on one of your political hoodies? No. She. Yeah. I didn't know where y'all were going. I was like, please. Oh, it's only here. You do that. Awesome. I'm wearing a picture today. This is a good one. This is uncontroversial. I stand with Sudan. Who doesn't stand with Sudan?

That's how you do it. You wear the shirt. He figured it out. We asked about it that he could say the shit that I just learned where Sudan is.

It's a civil war. That's the point. So like saying you stand with that domain. That's what I go to my girl about something that's been on my mind and somehow it flips into like I saw this trap. Like how did this happen?

Shout out to the people of Sudan. Yes. Indeed. Yes. Yes. And the people in your lovely jersey neighborhood that you're going to your rich suburb. That's why I strategized you.

Is you really keeping this Malcolm sex look going through like are you going to go through the spring with it? I don't even know.

You bodied Ari with it. Stop don't be stupid with me. It gets me. You bodied Ari with this look. Your DMs was on fire.

No, the glasses. The Malcolm sex look on Ari. Coal switching fingers cross cold switching. Yeah, I mean, I love jail like, but I'm not like you. Like that shit work. Your DMs lid on fire. You was hot.

Then you then you did it again. You came in again with these glasses on. So and I know you came here with the glasses first. And you came to my birthday dinner in these glasses. That's what you debuted.

Soft launch soft launch. So I want to know if you keep in this thing going through the spring and through the summer. It is becoming. I think I'm wearing glasses for the rest of my days.

Oh, one earth. Yeah, you don't make contacts anymore. Yeah, you had a way double.

Take them.

They look good though. I like that. Thank you, sir. I just hope outfit like you look good. You niggas that's blind. Like your blind while you're fucking too. Yeah.

What's your point though?

Because you know what you and that's the other senses get heightened. Yeah, you're not eyes for that. You know, he fit. He get headaches quick.

I'm dizzy.

Let me take a second.

The room is spinning. Good. Hopefully.

I'm mad at that. Well, you look good, man. Thank you. How can we get never just say that? What? It's more fun.

Because we black men. No, you got to do all other shit.

You don't accept it. We just give it a compliment. He don't like that. The nigga looking up acting like he's quit at the board. That's what you call.

That's his point. That's cool though. And why you cream head to toe? Like what's going on?

You look like the racer on the good pinch. You look like a Timberlake clean.

What the fuck is up with this?

Timberlake clean up. God damn. This is better than compliment.

Timberlake clean up. You invite that separate. You invited that. You bought that together. Like on the mannequin. You invite that separate.

You ain't like just buy the top of this. Let me find some sneakers to match. Boy.

Boy. You know, he met some girl that were working new balance. Gave his info.

900 hours on the phone. That's what it was. A website. Gave it a website. He just did this with glasses on.

He's networked bag. Network, networked bag on funds. I'm the network.

Get all that for some sneakers at this.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no. Not just sneakers in the suit. That's just your black spark.

Alright, we got a good show lined up for y'all. I'm a little sad today.

Why? A little sad.

What's going on, bro?

I know why.

Yeah.

Rest in peace to the founder of only fans.

That's so worried.

The content's going to keep coming.

They got another CEO right here.

Look what you think of that.

Well, that is something to be said about. Rest in peace to do.

He did it. He did it big.

Who gets that operation?

Oh my lord.

Kids is having a blast.

That's fucked up today.

That's bad to say.

No, rest in peace.

Rest in peace to do.

But boy does he leave a fucking fortune.

6.7 billion.

You can work enough.

You got to get paranoid even the kids. Fuck that.

Yeah.

Dog.

I'd be scared of the water you drink.

And restaurants all like shit.

It's a different type of money.

You see anybody trying to pour you?

I ain't got 6.7.

Actually, let me stop.

I ain't fucking way up today.

What was I saying?

All right, only if you have no why am I sad?

Oh, because of that queue.

Oh.

Yeah, that queue was a bitch.

It's over.

I saw that queue.

Yeah.

I mean, get this podcast started.

I saw that queue and was like, you know what?

You know what?

Joe Biden is a fucking liar.

That's what I'm going to say right now.

What?

You?

We can get it.

But the shit is going on Mark.

You try to go in there.

No.

Are you waiting to go through him?

No.

I'm going to get my own tickets.

What I'm saying is.

All the shit.

Joe's talking about poor people.

Shit.

No.

No.

Joe.

Oh, the poor is be logging in doing all this shit.

Oh, my God.

You guys standing low.

You guys do this.

You stood in line with 816,000 people trying to get Jay-Z tickets.

No, he did not.

No.

Of course he didn't.

And you never were planning to.

You don't do that shit.

You clown people to do shit like that.

You're a fuck you tricked me.

You make me feel sad.

No, he clowns.

You wait for us for having a cold.

No.

He clowns the niggas with the niggas.

No, I'm playing.

I clown y'all for y'all having extremely poor immune systems as your age.

You and itch.

Like y'all sick every other day.

Y'all.

And four years ago, five years ago, so were you.

Not like this.

You were.

I remember when Lex was going to school and you was coming in arguing about the dirty ass kids,

quote unquote, that keep getting you sick.

Not like this though.

I know.

You and Mark.

That's it.

But I hear you though.

You just congested.

I'm not congested either.

It's all right though though.

I remember you coming in here coughing up a lung.

And then y'all niggas don't call out when you say either.

Y'all come right in and spread the germs.

That's what you want.

Yes.

That's what I want.

Now let us call out.

Because you get a germ.

Look.

Okay.

But you got stronger immune systems so you won't get the germs anyway.

Well, that's facts.

Yes, we good.

Immune system built like a man.

The fuck is you talking about?

I don't remember what we was talking about.

You were pretending that you were upset about the Q.

Oh, yeah.

I was upset about the Q.

Oh, let me get up.

Yeah.

I was upset about the Q.

Not that I was going to go in there.

But if it were a reasonable number, then I wouldn't win in there and waited in line.

What was you doing?

I was reasonable.

Three.

200.

100.

Something like that.

I thought he might have sent out a code to some family and friends to be able to purchase early.

He said I was yesterday.

He did.

I was yesterday.

Yeah.

By the time I saw it, that she said 800,099.

I was like, you know what?

Yeah.

I might just watch it from home.

I got it there on stream.

Which the code yesterday, it was one ticket left on the riser on stage.

And I just before I could even click to see how much that ticket was, it was going to disappear.

Go on.

They said no tickets anymore.

You're going to go about your girl?

It was one ticket left.

If need be on the stage.

What were you going to do with said ticket?

I bought that bitch.

It was one ticket left.

What do you want me to do?

This is home.

Would you go?

Would you go without your dress?

I mean the dress.

You don't even like home like that.

My name is Freeze.

Take it easy.

Take it easy.

Yeah.

What?

I was playing a reasonable doubt in front of my wife.

Over and over.

I said, yeah, she don't even sound good while I do it.

And we got to extract 10.

I was like, yeah, I might just go to my homies by myself.

You don't want to go nowhere.

And then she started to fake out.

So now she's going to go to the blueprint show.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

That's the one I want to go to anyway.

Yeah.

You can take this one.

You got to go.

I'm going to get me tickets.

At least one of the shows probably both.

Just the sound went.

You going to ain't you?

Yeah, but I'm going all the routes.

I'm taking another route to go.

What you going to do?

Yeah, book the city.

Well.

Sneaking again.

How the fents?

I can sniff it.

I can sniff it.

Did you get tazered at the particular show?

You're going to take slow-round again.

You're all right.

I'm going to call you in your Body.

Chomma.

Chomma.

You're going to call some sh...

You're going to text Wycleft.

Wycleft.

He's like, at least I can call somebody and she's niggas.

I know.

I don't got a pretend.

I don't have no-

Hello Mark.

No.

I'm間 dear, good to me.

No, you know I have to just call him.

Man.

You know, if she could?

I-

Are you guys even proud to be like Alur?

Facts.

You had L Plus one, nigga.

So you can so ask me kindly like that

I'm saying like you would ask man. I wouldn't ask me

I want to go to blah blah blah. I got tickets. I'll be like you never ask me like that. I didn't ask anybody

But if she said I have an extra ticket would you say can I go? No, she if she's telling me y'all got an extra ticket to something

She telling me for a reason and would you follow the ads? No, she'll be like yo, do you want to go my nigga? If I call Mark

It's a yo y'all got an extra ticket to the blah blah blah. I'm insinuating that yo, would you like the ticket?

And I got to actually take what you like to go with me. Sure

What time should I pick you up

What time

Oh

That verse is it's Thursday got that verse is tomorrow

Mike check one two one two Mike check one two one two

Wait for the ladies. Oh wait for the ladies

Big Jersey whole New York City without bad

Let's go, let's go, put up out there

All the self-groups are the patronies. What's going on with going on at me?

Come on

Yeah, me and some of y'all know what I did on that

Huppet deck with a pool party in there when Joe had dogs, man

Some of y'all know who controlled the music during the VIP after party

If they buy left, man, come on stop playing

They told me it was 90 degrees and that laid out the day, man

I ain't gonna be how you playin' with these New Yorkers

He's tried state people

A

A

A

Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir

Y'all may spring vibes only

Now we're gonna do it, stay a little different tonight

You're gonna come over

I mean, I'm about ready for a cook out of somethin'

Lay slow R&B party and kick back to somethin' like that

Lay slow house party and somethin' like that

A hookah lounge and somethin'

Y'all may want to practice social clubs and all that

There you go

Take me to see a movie

And we're spoiling my hair as you been

Ain't nobody to let them what's goin' on out there

Ain't nobody to night life

I'm gonna force you to stay a little longer

He's on, he's on, he's on the tie

I'm gonna play a little longer

Now we're gonna play a little longer

Cause we, I ain't good to say

Lay slow house party and kick back to somethin' like that

All that behind is special

Uknightin' on the set of groups out there

Woo

Now let's go

Why is it all fair to say

We need to build some institution up before theasses

I'll move on

Can you feel it's all fair to say

We do it like these

We say

They say

I love to watch the face

Yeah, ma'am, music is a love language, don't you ever forget it

I'm only a baby, I'm a black man, I'm behind you

Holding your sides, you close, your eyes, my children

Shout through the whole podcast community

Out of the orange, we know it's not a fiber

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute

These songs that we say for what we love

I record got it done on a lot of nights

I'm not gonna lie, on a lot of nights

They got it done

Five minutes, five minutes

Five will be by with me

You and the girl are the heat

We got a great show lined up for you on the day we had.

We got a great show lined up for you on the day we had.

We got a great show lined up for you on the day we had.

We got a great show lined up for you on the day we had.

We got a great show lined up for you on the day we had.

You're pre-check means nothing.

You're clear means nothing.

I got my wish.

I got what I asked for with the Justin Timberlake.

Yes.

The Justin Timberlake footies they came out.

It was fun at this point man.

You know, yeah, you know I was begging.

I was begging for it.

What at this point man?

Oh my god.

I mean, yeah.

I was talking about it man.

It was fun.

Don't touch that damn man.

We got a great show lined up for you.

I got what I said, I got what I make.

Keep this applause going for the best true on Earth let's go. Let me give these drops out the way right quick

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So I need Flip to just do the drop from these

so I can put the cool effect on them.

But what do you want me to say?

We'll talk off here and do the drop.

We're gonna do the drop.

I'm just saying to drop.

The people, the people.

I've been waiting about that.

I thought it was something like, but they know.

No, it's not light.

It's very important to the people in myself.

It's not done in the sleep going.

It's been long enough.

No, it's been long enough.

I can't wait.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, no.

It's been too long.

I'm talking, bro.

Yeah, it's too long and too important to this drop.

Okay.

We're not doing that.

We're not doing it like that.

I would have a son is this.

914.

Welcome to episode 914 of the Joe Budden podcast.

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Big Spriest, it's gang, you know.

I am your humble gracious, extremely happy to be here.

Host Joe Budden here with a few very amazing people

to my right.

Queens get the money.

You know the vibes.

Queens Flip in the building.

How you doing, man?

I'm good.

I love y'all.

I'm happy to be here.

Let's get to work, man.

Happy to have you next to him.

Philly's finest are good brother.

Dr. Dark Lamont Hill is in the building.

Mark, how you doing?

Great, great, great, great.

Good.

Absolutely love that.

Next to him, Mr. fucking cream of weed themselves.

Mr. Thousand Dores.

On the body.

What's going on in there?

On the weed box.

Mr. Thousand Dores and up are good brothers.

Malcolm, sex, issues in the building.

It's how you doing, man?

Good, sir.

Good, good.

I couldn't be better.

Next to him, the freesiest of them all.

You know the vibes.

Big frees, ISIS in the building.

Ice, how you doing, man?

Great, great, great.

Glad to be here.

Let's get to it.

Good, absolutely.

Love that.

Next to him.

Here.

Let's pop.

Elmira's finest big parks is in the building.

Let's pop.

White poets in the building.

Black chorees here.

Ericsson is here.

Tanner and Savon are here by remote labs.

But certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here.

Gang, gang.

Now, who do I have to rob to get in this JZ concert?

Very good question.

What's up, man?

I'm getting tickets, but I don't know how.

I'm not calling Fadjo.

I'm not calling Linnaeus.

Bleak.

Guru Huppets out.

Guru.

I don't know how's going to happen.

I'm not waiting in any queue.

And hopefully some of the feelers I put out there will respond and give me a situated.

I think there's 15 minute block of us begging.

It's been, yeah, it's a little bit more.

I'm calling back a little bit more.

Yeah, for sure.

I've already looked on the resale site.

I haven't.

I'll beg a little bit more.

Yeah, I'm looking at that right now.

I saw over 12, 12, so.

Yeah, 12,000.

Is that the floor joint that we're a little, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the right actual field floor?

I'm looking at four grand, five grand, part ticket.

Yeah.

Oh, and that's in the back of the floor, not even, that's the back of the floor though.

That ain't a form.

That ain't the size shit.

You know, something like that's why I'm saying 500.

Is that the rich?

Yeah, awesome.

I think it sounded like you should just flex and get the whole crew take a sec.

Awesome.

I won't be doing that.

I won't be doing that at all.

Sorry, sorry about that one.

But if we in there, Nick is gonna meet up with you.

I didn't say that.

I didn't say that.

And don't meet up with me.

If we in there, this enjoy the show.

Enjoy the show.

I'm just kidding.

Enjoy the show.

I was, I was, I was, I was, but, I think this is crazy.

I mean up with nobody.

I did what you think is that I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know you, Nick.

I don't know by the big.

I don't know how to stick it.

Right, I forgot to look like.

I'm letting y'all know I'm getting in there by hook up by crook.

I, we, I see the gun B the legal legit way or it's gonna be my deep infamous.

Yeah, I see you ask.

Way.

Old school, yeah, old school seeing and wore report, but I'm gonna be in it.

I'm gonna just find the building over there.

You can just sit on the roof.

Yeah, fuck it.

Oh, that was.

Oh, fuck.

Let me ask you all a question.

They're stream this.

And it's a reasonable fee, $50, $100, whatever it wants.

I can't afford it.

We just do, would that make you less inclined to go?

No.

But I would be okay with that as the last resort.

Yeah, it'd be fine.

It's a feeling that you get when you're in the concert,

certain ones.

Yeah, it's actually cool.

You can't match that.

You know, does it good feeling?

Keeping $10,000 in your product?

Yeah.

Oh no, dog, if it's 10 grand, I won't be.

I won't be, I'm not, I'm not.

Well, it'll be about, it'll be expensive.

It's gonna be expensive, it's gonna be fine.

I'm not paying a 10 grand for two tickets,

to nobody.

No, you pay $10,000 for one ticket.

I'm not doing that either.

It could be to Jesus coming back.

I'm gonna miss that one.

Yeah, and if you pay $5, you're gonna be sitting close to Jesus

because you're gonna be at the top of the stage.

And that's the, I won't pay $5,000.

You're not having me exactly, fuck that.

Hey, Moses, that's you?

Word, I'm good.

Yeah, no.

What'd you call Mark?

You call somebody from Rock Nation?

Like how you look rather comfortable doing it.

Yeah, he looks, he looks confident.

I got people in places.

My man got some tickets, he paid a dash.

Dash got tickets, he called me.

He only paid $750,000, he said he'd download, so.

Paul.

Yeah, dash probably waited in that queue

after two million people.

Right, baby.

He should resell him, he could reset.

Yeah.

Oh, the discipline it took not to text somebody this morning.

It did take a lot of discipline.

Why don't you just go to like one of second-market sites

and just buy him.

You'll call it a discipline?

Yeah, my boy, yeah.

Is that ego, is that ego, bro?

I'm not disciplines.

Yo, you took yours, I'm an honest ego.

I don't think it's ego.

Why?

Come on, Jones.

To not do that this morning, why's that ego?

You have relationships with people.

I'm not saying I'm against doing it.

I think it's cool.

I was doing it during the day.

Yeah, just early.

I wasn't doing that.

I was just waiting to do it.

I got you.

I'm not saying I'm above doing it, or I'm not going to do it.

So when this ticket's going to sell,

you want a phone call in it?

Yeah.

That was not the way that that was done.

Don't they get a while?

That looked a little crazy.

No, I was just not the way that that should be done.

The first day is crazy.

That's not what I was talking about.

I was saying ego is, because you could just afford

to buy the tickets online.

Do you not want to buy them online?

Because you got so much influence.

I'm not paying ticket.

No, it's not that.

Even if I text somebody, I'm texting somebody

to give me the point person.

The person that has the reserve.

He buys.

The reserve joints.

I'm buying mine.

Yeah, Joe buys.

Yeah, I'm not looking for no freebie.

I don't.

I'm buying mine.

Well, you got that problem.

You're one of the only niggas that I see that does that.

I watch plenty of events where you say you'll give me

the point person I pay tickets for me

and my people's, I've heard you do that.

I pay for tickets too.

I don't give a fuck.

No, I'm saying I'm just talking about him, him, him, his position.

You could just get it for free.

But he choose.

I could get a lot of tickets for free.

And I'd prefer to buy it.

I don't want to.

Is this a book?

It's a waste of a favor, first of all.

Yes.

For sure.

It's not going to kill me to buy tickets

if they're reasonable to buy.

This is the one to call it, no.

If I can't find them to buy, yeah.

This is the favor to call it, yeah, I'm not.

What do you think freebie?

You're going to just get it right free?

Yeah.

That's what I'm saying.

Something is just, something is used that favor.

Yeah, I'm cool.

I don't need it.

Don't be a favor.

Yeah.

You know, fam.

What's reasonable is relative.

It is.

And no pun intended, I doubt it.

I'll be going to have them shit says, you crazy?

Yeah, I'm not paying thousands of dollars.

I'm not paying thousands of dollars.

Yeah, no.

That's what you call it.

500, 700.

Yeah, yeah.

You pay face value.

Yeah.

I might even pay a little over face.

I might pay double face.

I'm not going to be paying no 10 grand for no 10.

I'm not paying super bowl prices for a concert, my nigga.

That part, yeah.

Well, me and Mark will tell you all all about it.

No doubt.

I'll lift you up.

I'll lift you up.

I'll FaceTime, one of y'all, too.

Like, what's your favorite joint?

I won't.

Excuse me, miss.

Oh.

Change balls.

Yeah.

Excuse me, miss.

Come on, I'll FaceTime.

You freebie.

Come on, I got you.

Yeah.

I'm not above that shit.

Yo, my nigga.

It's stupid.

Yeah, it's stupid.

Yo, that's what's going to happen.

The next second day, the whole concert

is going to be on you, too.

And I'm going to be $10,000 richer.

And I'll take that.

Uh, yeah.

OK.

I want to see some good quality.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I'm going to be $10,000 now.

I want to be.

Yeah.

Can't take that.

Take that.

Take it with me, y'all.

And the energy in the room is worth it.

I know.

Life is about memories and moments.

I know.

It's not worth 10 grand, Mark.

I'm with you on that.

The roof's picnic, y'all, y'all.

I might win a change.

Oh, no, I might win a change.

Oh, y'all talking in Philly, Joe, Joe, Joe.

He ain't watered out there.

So pretzels, like a sheety with no shoes or put me out.

That's what we've done.

OK, so we got the huge JZGQ interview.

Who here still believes that we are not

getting a JZ project this year?

Oh, I kind of, that interview made me feel like he's not there yet.

Yeah, he's not there.

Yeah.

I think he's been working on music.

And he ain't found any like, I don't think we get a project.

Like, I told you.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.

But I still do not, nothing in that interview

made me think there's an album coming.

I'm not a lot.

I was thinking that album was coming through 25 minutes

that interview.

But when he got to like, I'm not really sure how I want

to sound in 2026 or whatever he was saying.

I was like, oh, yeah, he's out there yet.

Let's just think he's lying.

I said I didn't think that album was coming.

And the interview gets confirmed.

No, I think he's lying.

Oh, you think he's lying?

He hear me.

I know Niggas called him home.

He's still human, but I think it got music coming, bro.

I just don't think it's any time soon.

I'm not saying he's never making an album.

I don't think it's coming.

Well, when they asked him about why he didn't feature

on the clips album, and he was like, well,

I think my first words need to come from me.

Yeah.

That to me confirmed something is coming at some point.

For sure, but he's all, like I said before,

he does that in a verse.

He do that when he's feeling something

or he got some shit to get off his chest, he'll go do.

But when you say it's going to come from me

that takes it away from a future verse.

And I said a future verse, like he did when he had his opinion

about how everybody was talking about title.

He did that shit as a freestyle on the stage.

I think it was the b-side show.

Like he can get his point off in a verse

without it being in an album.

He just released that verse in the track.

Yeah, I don't, nothing says album.

That's all I'm saying.

I think he got a lot to say, and I don't think a verse

is going to cover everything that he has to say

over the last, what?

One was four, four, four came up.

Shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, versus his name.

A few.

Yeah, I was just dead.

He did the carters.

He did it.

Yeah, then stop.

No, he's so disrespectful, man.

I used to be so fucking disrespectful.

But so, so I'm thinking still, nothing's coming out this year.

I think a maybe fourth quarter, but I don't think it,

I don't think an album is being time

with the concerts was sort of the point.

Like I don't think like these concerts is coming out,

you're going to see a Jay-Z album coming out that time.

I could be wrong.

Like I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, I would love to be wrong.

Can't wait.

All right, so Holt sat with Frazier for GQ

and did an interview that all of these clips released

on the day we're recording.

Somebody up there loves us.

Somebody up there loves us.

They asked him about a bunch of shit.

His name being dragged through the mud for the last year.

They asked him about the battle,

which seems to have people in a tidbit

and a frenzy about it.

Superbowl, album plans, a lot was covered.

And I do want to shout out Frazier Thorpe from GQ.

He absolutely bought this interview.

I think those are really good questions.

He's had insightful questions, had quotes from lyrics,

just off the cuff.

It seems like well researched.

You know Frazier, shout out to Frazier.

Here we go, here's a clip in a mask

and about the Kendrick and Drake beef.

We love the excitement.

And I love the sparring and the music you get.

But in this day and age, it's so much negative stuff

that comes with it, they almost wish it didn't happen.

Really?

Yeah, because it's not, it's almost like it's a final thing.

Now, people that like Kendrick hate Drake,

no matter what he makes, no matter what he says.

And it goes far too.

It's like a tack on his character and his thing.

And it's like, I don't know if I love that.

I don't know if it's helpful to our growth

where the fallout lands, especially on social media,

which takes place every day.

New Japan.

New Japan.

The Stan armies play it.

Yeah, and it's like, it's too far.

It's like bringing people kids in it.

And it's like, I don't like that.

Maybe I've grown in this space that probably,

I sound like the old guy wagging the thing.

But I think we can achieve the same thing

as far as sparring with music.

With collaborations more so than breaking the whole thing apart.

It could stand it before because there was no social media

and there was no thing in it.

You had the battle, it was fun, and then you moved on.

Right now, nothing could stand it

with the technology that we have.

Because it takes up so much oxygen.

It takes up so much oxygen.

Now, it's still like every day that just trying to kick it.

It's still talking about it.

Not just talking about it.

Not like it was just talking about it.

I was like, I didn't love it.

It's a module, but yeah.

It's like trying to, you know,

wreck this guy's marriage or this guy's relationship

with his child.

And it's like, I don't know, man.

I don't know if, I don't know if it's worship at this point.

Yeah.

I don't know.

It's interesting.

Again, I love the idea that we got so much music

and such a short period of time.

Green music.

Just everything around it.

Which is like, man, it's like taking us a couple of steps back.

Yeah.

And we've just grown so much that I don't know if,

I guess I'm going to say, I don't know if battling

needs to be part of it.

Oh, my God, Sean Carter.

I think that I had this point of view.

I do, because I know it.

I'm glad he recognized it.

I know it feels like I hate it.

No, I'm glad that he recognizes it.

Yeah, but he don't care.

No, he don't care.

This was, I'm off this.

Yeah, I didn't love this take, especially like,

why not?

Couldn't disagree more.

I was outside when Nas and Holt was a thing.

It was, it was, it was, it was super ugly.

Bringing kids into the world.

It didn't come with the shit that happened.

It wasn't that beautiful.

It's not, I think it's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

so to me, the Amplafide is, I'd rather than a pool.

I agree.

I disagree.

I told you that you got one man that's being labeled as a certain thing

forever.

And so to me, they just amplified it back in those days.

I'm not doing that.

No, J, day, well, that's why I fucking bitch you fat motherfucker.

What, what Jay said?

I asked him, my dog, she's a girl.

That's that's something that happens in our community all the time. That's nothing no

Everything is stupid draper stupid draper is lily calling people pit of house

Yeah, they were I don't remember that I don't remember that I was I was I'm

Back listen the fuck with you. I'm around it

I just think that the at to his point

I think that the social media thing takes it to a different stratosphere that we didn't have back then

I remember literally me and my man going outside of work when they was teasing them

Yo, we got a new Jay Z shit. We got it. It was a thing

It was a regional thing

Yeah, it wasn't an international thing. You get them say it's it's I think it's I think it's a drop in the bucket

So you say hip hop algorithm

Because that's what that's only thing that you know, I'm saying hip hop roots with international level. No social media is now

Put in the shit in front of our faces. They're really single day

It did not it did put it didn't because in the real world

Drake still plays and no one looks at it funny when you play Drake

This this discourse only lives on the internet. That's not yeah, but that's the internet is our line

It's not no it's not it's not real life

Y'all niggas can say that theoretically today's society the internet plays a huge part in niggas lives

Niggas wake up and check they phone before they say they prayers y'all can say whatever the fuck y'all want to say the internet

It's a lot of people's lives, especially the younger generation. Okay, if Drake wants to go on a arena run this summer

He can and will the business is stopping absolutely nothing. It is discourse on the internet

Somebody's different from discourse in real life somebody shot at this man's house where his family lives

You can't say that the internet is not playing a huge part in what niggas see every for fam

That has nothing to do with the internet though. That's that's not true

That has not so has that been happening in rap beats before that have niggas be getting shot at the house and shot up and shit

Yeah, to the internet

My niggas that was beefed out by fans that don't know the other niggas that they shoot in that

John Lennon got killed by a fan

I agree with you

I agree to the internet. We can't act like the internet is this place is disconnected from our life the internet a lot of our

A lot of our lives are lived on the internet, but at the same time. I do think that

We can't reduce everything to how people are talking about something on the internet

I think that for me is the why I agree with you like the internet is important

But at the same time like what Tyler said about the internet

With Drake is like you're gonna go to the internet and think the world is one way and you can go outside and go

A club a party a thing and it's just different like it's not that that's on that. That's what I'm saying

But that's easier said by the niggas that's not effective about it. I'm with you

I'm watching everybody besides you. I watch people and you but people up here when things are being said on the internet

We have addressed it you are one of them. Yeah, I'm one of them. So and we are the ones that affected so the person that's affected

Whatever my tricks at this place is easy to say over here like oh turn your phone. No, it's not

I'm just saying it's not the only story. We should be telling like

In addition to that like I get frustrated with shit. Yeah, but this is how much it's gone side

I realize people you know don't think that like but Mark so look and you could get frustrated and know just respect you

But in a social scheme of things you and Drake are light years of he's the president and I'm a voter

No, not even it's bigger than that. So now when this man watch yourself

You know

I don't know

So what I'm saying he's infinitely more so so now when he walks outside when he walks outside

You don't know what the effects that this shit is having on somebody's mental health fuck Drake

We don't even talk about Drake and Kendrick. I'm just talking about the magnitude of the internet and how it could play on somebody's real life

We can't minimize that so so

For me just to take it back to the whole point and the connect it

And I'm not defending the Drake because I think what Drake did was wrong to and when you all are done

I'd like to talk on you boy this niggas wife into it

You bought him hitting his wife all of that shit into it now this nigga could potentially lose deals

Get a look at as a woman beater. I think all of the shit is stupid

But the internet magnifies it in a way that we never had before I think that this one a whole thing

I

Think one as you get older in a culture or in society you start to look at shit different. Yes

And you start to get a little nostalgic and you start to figure them on the impact of the shit that you did as hard

And I think it has to be a little more self critique there like if he says look

I may super ugly that shit went too far. I saw with that

I saw how that played out and so now it's that times a hundred because of the internet

I kind of get that point. He said though. He said yo, I regret it

I get that he said that then he regret it but what I'm saying is is that to but he still found he still doesn't regret the battle

He just regrets going too far to me the answer to this is not to say we don't need battles in hip hop because the battle to me

Is an essential part of hip hop the competitive nature of it

No, we can't all just get on a track and kill a beat together and see who's better some of that shit is about the

adversarial nature of it. That is what hip hop is about. That's the essence of hip hop whether whether whether it's be boy and whether it's

Well, he spoke to that because he said all the mother parts are not in hip hop no more it he said beat

Breakdancing was a part of it. It's not here anymore

I hate this is a graffiti

He named a couple street artists, but he was like it's not really a mainstream a part of hip hop like that anymore

The DJ used to be the DJ and then the rapper for not here no more. You don't know these DJs

If he's looking at it from this point of view

The real essence of hip hop and just making a commercial music thing

I don't like how that feels and somebody who grew up as a hip hop it like I think when money comes into it

Sometimes it's out of your control

Fortunately, I think that when the big brand start taking it

It's like basketball like now niggas not competitive in basketball no more because it's so much money in it

Niggas is not praying for pride or ego Michael Jordan's playing 82 games like yo my arm got to be falling off for me

Not to be competitive and get on the court and bushel us now these kids can be like yo my toe hurt. I ain't playing. We also just saw fairly

Civil competitive

rap beef between

Fairly mainstream arts and Joey badass and and Ray Vaughan in them last year was a fucking melee

And granted they're not whole and Kendrick, but it was still just competitive hip hop that didn't involve no mud sling and no kids no babies

No nothing so to

Just miss battling as a part of hip hop because that ruined it. I think is no hold it

No, but the thing is where do we stop the line like with the with the wife's like he said yeah

With Joey badass in them. They weren't taking personal shots at each other's families and potentially losing niggas deal

That's the solution is like don't get rid don't throw the baby out with the bath water

Let's just like like most said in black or both sides like wet like hip hop is a giant a hills away from us

And we are hip hop we can say let's have the battles, but let's make some rules. I agree. That's all I'm saying

I didn't get rid of the battle

That only that only work

Like when these two niggas that really don't like each other a lot of times that rule shit go out the window and that's always been the case

I just that's what happened. That's the difference between the Joey badass in them battle, which was hey

We just sparring basically and these two niggas where I don't like you and I've been waiting for you

So now I want to end you that's what I'm saying

I'm listening yeah talking. It's like that we realized what this shit has evolved into do we realize how many lives are being lost

based up like we're just speaking

Hip hop has evolved what the beef has evolved everything evolves if that was the case

Negative break dances wouldn't have to look at another job certain DJs wouldn't have to have a nine to five everything with a

When things get phased out that's what happens

He's just keeping up with the times and and and speaking as a elders men in the

Culture yo, hey, this is what it says. This is what's happening and shit like that

We can want to hold on to the past dreams all the time, but it's not that anymore. It's not

Period you can't go out there and tell them niggas over there in Brooklyn or or Chicago and that y'all don't do this

They're not listening to anything and that's what it's consumed. That's what we consume or not us

But the kids consume that's what gets the numbers and him being who he is. He's not gonna sit there in cosine

That's why I understand what he's saying. I

For it's fine. You guys are passionate about it

But I agree with like some of

We was all over the place, but Jay-Z has transcended hip hop you don't get to where he is without transcending so I do appreciate this level of

maturity from him

I appreciate his unique point of view that only he can kind of give from his view point

But when you transcend hip hop, you got to be aware that sometimes like I said some of the stuff you're looking at

You're not just speaking about culture like so when he says that

Tagging is out of is no longer in hip hop. I vehemently disagree and don't really understand that from him as an as an art collector

Knowing the story of Boschia and knowing the story of just hearing now's writers just I can't I can't accept that from Jay-Z

That's some interview shit. Yeah, when when I went to the restaurant that I spoke about in Staten Island

Shawna's house before I left she said, yeah, can you please can you please tag this wall and some of the famous venues that we've been to

It's a thing to tag the wall and yeah, we tag tagging up is still a it's a it's a cultural

Thing it's a culture thing when common is on Jennifer Hudson and ends it with breakdancing like we're not really talking about

The hip hop mainstream mainstream hip hop

Record label hip hop we that's a culture conversation and Jay-Z is a part of culture so I can't I can see how you'd be

Separated from it being a multi-billionaire 60-year-old like and that's cool like I'm not mad at it

But I think it was a little dismissive of these elements that are still at the important people still hip hop started hip hop started on

Sedgwick at a fucking house party at a party so every hood

Could come together and fucking get to the shit

You can't tell me that you go to a party with one of the playlist DJs and then go to a party with

Real DJ and tell me tell me about the time that you had that part. Yeah, you can't there's nothing that Jay-Z

Can tell me that says that that's not a cultural thing it's still important

I think his talking points are important, but they're not addressing like he

Me mainstream like you don't see little kids break dancing no more like you it's tagging going on, but not

From a wide view you know, I'm saying like you might not be break dancing will become important dancing

Hip hop dance hip hop dance. Yeah, no dancing

Period dancing period and when kiddin playing all that shit was out my older brothers

They was trying to come up with dancing so all the niggas that could fight they would go to school and have dance battles

Dance and look at with what dance and was and what it meant for some people versus what it is today and what it what it

Means today to these kids and these apps and these streamers like we've seen the last years of people trying to get a record

Hot by coming up with some sort of dance on tick tock. We've successfully in a lot of cases

So that's it kind of had a resurgence though because it did go away for a minute every day. They stopped dancing for a while

Yeah, I guess with tick tock. It's been a while

It's been back. Well, you said about 10 years. Yeah, it's it's come back

Yeah, it is and also just thinking globally and there's a cultural relevance to dancing from hundreds of years

Hip hop dance that like hip hop dance is a genre when they start teaching dance class

You know, you got the waltz that it's a DTF STL

I just think it's a huge it's a huge mistake to say because something is not mainstream or

Commercialized that it fails to exist. Yes, but he said this is this faith. He didn't say fail to exist though

He's saying it like he said dead. He said there are no longer there those elements are no longer part of hip hop

That's not true. It's not part of mainstream

And that's a very parochial view too like if you look globally

People are still be boy. Yeah, people still are I mean people are still graphic

I go around the world. I see people still still tagging walls like it is right

It's just it's too much hip hop culture that's still tied to the essence to say that to me. I agree got it

So like you go to Asia dance and Asia hip hop dance and Asia

Yes, they still uprockin and no, it's huge

No, I'm just saying one thing. Oh one thing he did say which was kind of contradictory to his point was

It's an Olympic sport now, right

Like it was saying that it's mainstream. It's it's they they got it. So it's dead. But no, I mean it went from that to

You can get a gold medal for this shit now, right also when it come to Badland like like some of Mark said man

We we in this is a very

competitive

genre

filled with a lot of ego and a lot of people that

Didn't go to therapy and learn the best way to express themselves to one another

so

you're gonna have

Feuds you're gonna have runnings. You're gonna have

Battle, but the only highlight the negative that come from battle

Means that we skipping some of the positives that come from battle and again for Jay Z to be the one saying it

You to me are the beacon of

some of the positive that come from fucking battle you and nods to two niggas that got in on one of the best battles ever are

two

Pillars in business. Yeah, yeah

Y'all are performing together. Y'all in the songs together. Y'all answered the the fans requests

Wanted wanting to see all that shit, but y'all matured y'all matured like I think that should be a part of hip-hop story too

One of my favorite things about me talking to banks or any of niggas

I ever beef with game any of them is the fact that we could talk right here. Yeah, we didn't see eye to eye

Someone we was in clubs in for it. We fucking it got heated. We did the distracts

But now as you grow up like hip-hop is 50 years old

We should be allowed to grow up

I did take that away from what he was saying

It's also contradictory in the fact that he was talking about Kendrick's huge year and the Super Bowl and all that shit

And a lot of that was off of the battle like so

There's a lot of contradiction. I think you know, I'm just saying you should be allowed to beef with people

Make amends with people

Have hindsight looking where you maybe made some mistakes hold yourself accountable for a lot of us hip-hop people hip-hop

We we all didn't go. We were not all well schooled

We didn't all come from the two-parent households. So some of these some of these things

like fucking

Accountability and yada yada we had to learn from

From hip-hop trial another thing which is hold up man. Let me go

That's another thing that that that I had a problem with

With his Kendrick and Drake stuff because yeah fan base is taking too far they do I agree with that you do

Yeah, you would hope that people don't bring up

Kids and want to destroy your personal life

All of that's all of that's fine

But on the accountability tip

If you go out there and beg a nigga to start with you

If you go out there and insist

That we have this dance because we've been the best for too long just me and you for 10 years

Then part of that you got to be willing to take all that comes with

That's part of battle

Part of battle is risk assessment

Especially if you think you was going to get a one-up and now in the middle of the fight

You realize the nigga stronger than you do all of that is part of the tango

I don't want to be in a hip-hop with that tango don't get to exist

Now all of these talking points I agree with everything he said if we if we switch the conversation to drill

Yeah, cuz then

It's not worth it to me, but that's where it's not it's not where but we but but he didn't he wasn't having a drill conversation

He wasn't talking about smoking on rolling up such and such digging a handbrake

We what he wasn't talking about all of that when when hip-hop was getting scary evil

It wasn't all of all battles need to stop

Okay, it wasn't all of that

So now when two niggas get together and seemingly to my nose nobody got hurt

Even when it's talk about drink house getting shot up. I can't attribute that to

Kendrick versus drink all I get from that is the two best

Doing their best in battle and there was a victor and yet social media is mean

But the block used to be mean school used to be mean shit used to be mean

Yeah

Sorry, yeah, young guy. I just don't want to live in a hip-hop where you can't we can't battle somebody

Where you go in the club and you can't say to a nigga your your sneakers is wack

Like hip-hop we talking about and you could get shot. I'm gonna say you get killed for that shit today

So now you have to adjust you got to adjust my nigga like it's but I just

I just attribute the whole Jay Z thing is to like the drug deal a dude that spent 40 50 years in prison

Right and he got all of his wisdom from some mistakes that he made some goods and bad and he just put it all in

Compiled all the data. That's how I took it. I took it like this the old head nigga that spent

40 years in jail. He had life. He gave his time back. He came home

And now I'm trying to teach you niggas or or or put you guys on a different path

That's what I attributed to I didn't really look at it like he was shitting on hip-hop

I just looked at it like he had information. I'm not saying. Yeah, I don't think he was shit

I'm shitting is a bad word, but I'm just saying I just looked at it like he had more information

And he was the wise old owl trying to guide the people. That's how that's what I think

Jay Z done shot at niggas in Harlem world

Jay Z done shot at niggas. You knew

Didn't I had to long listen at me

Jay Z when the fuck did Jay Z put the guns that shot

He told the button up ordinary Joe. It was quite a few Jay Z shots

Oh like a like a net like a net was bothering him right

I'll be back for you. It's another thing and we need to start appreciating and and I see it starting to happen

Probably over the last maybe three four years. It's maturity

Because that's all this is sure and then what happens hip-hop was always young

Nobody really want to see hip-hop get old now like you said Joe hip-hop is 50

It's a lot of 50 year olds in hip-hop 70 year old. Yeah, but I'm just 50 plus now you see them given the other side of the game

We need to appreciate people maturing out of this shit that might have been dope 20 30 years ago

But again, it's a personal thing that you chose Kendrick for the Super Bowl. It's like oh man

He's choosing the side and he's putting and he's not like like I don't have what do I have to do with that

I chose the guy that was having a monster here

I think it was right choice or it wasn't in in some sort of alliance to a battle

I don't know what I care about them two guys bad ones like it's like I'm doing me or have had it have fun

Um, it's almost like that not just me by the way they drag everybody in it like everyone's part of this conspiracy to

um under my um drake I guess but like

move fuck

I'm fucking jazzy

Or do respect him and fucking old

You're doing respectfully or like what

Folk to what end? Yeah, I think they haven't liked your joke for a long time

Before you had anything to do with that boy. Wow. Yeah, I think this has been brewing. Just like me and Nas was brewing

Yeah, it didn't what it didn't happen at the summer jam that happened at lexon tv sets the minimum

We whatever it was it was a whole bunch of stuff leading up to that point. That's like what is it?

The mid fleek slugs in your hat or you see that it was a bunch of like little things that led up to that point

And then when it happened to happen it's actually regret that I really like nuts. It's a really nice guy

But also to your point like I remember I was like 10 or 11 when they happened. I was like

Well, I was on your side. Yeah, I could clearly but

My my position was I can't go out and buy stomatic or ask my parents to buy stomatic

But I'm gonna bar. All right. All right. Yeah

That was hilarious. It was it was charisma. Yeah

It's just I just like him going

Addressing a lot of the sheet just the capitalism shit. He addressed the uh

The all the shit that's been said about Jay-Z like he's Jay-Z

Yeah, like a lot of the shit you put on home is stupid

I think we've said that up here, but we're home-enders. So I mean we're gonna say that

Yeah, I love it's just a simple enough line. I'm fucking Jay-Z

I'm fucking home

Yeah, that is a very Jay-Z thing to say

Yeah, I think it's also accurate. Yeah

And what a just polite way to son everybody

Yeah, all who's gonna do is come out and son everybody and you're not gonna realize it to the fucking years later

I'm home. Why?

What do I have to do with this who and Annie? Yeah, right?

I'm picking up better things to do and worry about these to them and then the respectfully is what does it?

The respectfully you you

You got a car and that's cool with me

He's been doing this in his whole career just shitting on people. I love that never change

Absolutely never James or that's a great interview

I want to ask you what I thought um about the Jake overmarks

Well, where they read anything. What do you say? What do you say? What do you say? They asked them um

You know, where where did he stand with cold today?

Let's go freezer

You got the clip. Oh, I don't have to know. I was I have the script transcript up here

But I'm looking for it. So you you keep going well, he asked him where he stood with cold and he was like

obviously

There's some behind the scene audit stuff

and

He didn't want to he wasn't holding cold back. He wanted him to go at go ahead and find his own way

I will give you the tools, but you're doing on your own

I'm listening to that like

We got some issues behind the scenes

That I just want to know if anybody else picked up on you

Well, yeah, I thought the same. I got to go you got it. Yeah, you want to clip where you want to just don't matter

He said I was uh mark

He said I was giving him a chance to take his talent and show it

To the most people possible, but his way. I didn't say here's this record from Stargate and you putting it out like I force

Bleak to make Memphis bleak is bleak is my little brother. He has to listen to me

But for Jay Cole he has to find his own direction and I'm going to give him the tools

Stargate made humongous record with Rihanna with Khalifa black and yellow

Biggest songs in the world. You don't want to go sit with them fine. I don't have any negative feelings for him

I'm actually super proud of him and what he's done. It's okay. Yeah, it was a little more because they asked him where you stand today, but

I took that as

I

Tried to yeah

You ain't one listen. You ain't listen. I tried to what I tried to guide you this way

You didn't want to listen go figure it out. Oh shit. You did

Okay, and then we also look at but also like if you had listened you might have been somewhere else

But I'm glad but I'm glad you are where you are you where you wanted to be on your own did and you know

Again, I look up all calls albums everything all is him now

So you obviously went back and bought everything

I could see some low issues in there. I didn't take it as issues for wolf. I took it as hey man

I tried to steer you one way you want to do it your way and god bless

Good luck. That's how we happen. That's how I took it cold may feel a different type of way, but that's how it's yeah

I chalk I chalk it up. I don't think we're ever gonna find out

Yeah, hopefully not too clan. I know fuck you speak for yourself. I want to know that one

I want to know what's going. No, you crazy

Is anybody in his mature as you my G

I gave my opinion you gave your opinion. That's fine. I'm not mad at your opinion. I'm mature. I'm just

You know what's funny about you face yourself like that, but in real life you you don't hurt all the teeth

Yeah, that's why you fun in real life you know all the teeth

But if tea come my way, I'm not outside like rejecting it

You're

You're like yo, yo man, get off my phone. I want to hit that shit man. I want

Yeah, but then he come over here like no, you know, that's unfortunately if we could just stop the violence

I want to show it to you my nigga my niggas grow man

I want to know too, but they're not gonna tell us because they keep dancing around that's why I want to know like if nobody say nothing

But you just see

If I just sit and focus long enough I can figure it out. I don't say

Like I really put too much thought or energy into this like I'm kind of just performing

But if I just sit still for two nights, I'll figure it out. Is it a situation that you can't figure out? You feel sure

I could definitely figure it out, but I don't I try not to be that invested in people shit

Now before I go home and I'm trying to be Bill Knight of science

Guy with this

Yeah, I don't think it's that deep, but I think it's exactly how he laid it out

Like I tried to push you in one way. It didn't work out you go do your own thing and Cole probably feels away about his back catalog

Being old still and he done built the shit up his own way, so he should I think it's that I don't think it's really much deeper in that

I don't think it's anything that's pretty decent. I mean it is pretty deep to me. I love you, but it's not

You go your way. We tried it this way

Hey, bygones be bygones no love lost and will never speak be seen together wrapped together be featured together

Never anything together for the rest of life and I'll appear closer to put your tea

Then I will this guy that I broke and took from nothing in North Carolina to one of the biggest rap superstars

Just like I wanted to on the backstage DVD when I was looking for people eating cereal. You are not gonna get me to believe that

No, well Joe

Why don't we

Since he's doing either he's doing obviously just a camera interview

That Cole is doing so it's clear. He's willing to mend some fences. Why don't we get Cole up here and ask him to mark begging

I'm on you're doing it. I'm not begging nobody to come up here and talk mark. Just say you like the civic

That's what you don't say. There's not wrong flippin burgers

I think everybody should go with uncomfortable speaking. That's true. That's what I think

And I don't see a gas

Look at maturity what no, I never should gas. Oh, okay. I think everybody should go with it

Yeah, it's some snickering going on over there. You are identifying with something I said that was funny. What happened?

I say something. It was funny. We just told my niggas mature right before eyes. Yeah

I've been niggas. I go say that

Why the fuck you with the concept over there? Not but came in the shot the cam. I'm just talking about with anybody

It was great interview. It's great. Which thing was in the desk at J Cole while we're here. It was cool

Yeah, it was cool. Didn't really get a ton of information, but I thought it was a good idea. Yeah, I think I was happy for me too

I thought it was good interview. I think more interviews gonna come and more stuff gonna get unveil

Looking forward to I didn't see the camera the problem when you don't like speak to people often

Like we don't get a call interview often is that when you speak to them

We got a rehash all of this shit that I personally have moved on from right like him was asking him good shit

Like came with whatever you didn't like from the desk of cam was getting right to it

And it's like I personally am just off of this

Like it wasn't new stuff, right, but you get an answer

Sort of kind of I feel like answers that we've kind of already gotten

From records and when he spoke on stage and I don't think there's anything new that we're getting out of any of this

And I think those are the two interviews you need to do the desk

His people and cam who he wants promised to

So go go do the shit. I'm glad you did the cam shit. Me too. Maybe happy. I didn't think it was gonna happen

I'm real glad he did that one that shocked me. Yeah, and I'm glad they addressed all the shit

And it's my y'all know me. I'm mr. Everything a roll out and all of that shit. I love the way they tease this. That was funny

So I'm like oh, this is but I'm absolutely lost. I think it was real the first time I saw it

You said you didn't think like when I saw the little promo of him popping up

Yeah, and cuz it look almost like fake like AI. Yeah, I thought it was AI. You know shit don't know that a lot of AI fakes people fall for

But um, I saw that it was real and I was like they made me happy

You're like you such a jerk man

My last jz clip looking back on last year. It was hard really hard. I was like heartbroken

Really, yeah, I'm glad we got right today

You know, so you just get that out the way. Okay, like I was really heartbroken by like everything that occurred

You know, we're all like, you know, we're in the space now where it's just like

almost like consequence is not

Thought about

Everything is so instant. You know, I'm saying yeah, like that whole bus be

It's a lawsuit that was dropped this miss. I should took a lot out

Most angry. I haven't been that angry in a long time

uncontrolled anger like you don't put that on someone like that's the that's the thing that you better be super sure

It used to be like that like you have to be super sure before you put those kind of things on a person

Let's see a person like me

Like even when we were doing worse things we were doing bad. We had those kind of rules

There was a line no women no kids, you know, you you hear those sayings, but those are things that I took from the street

You know morals integrity code cold those things I took because because we we lived and died by that

So it's strict for me like it meant a lot to me. I took that really hard

But and I knew that we was gonna walk through that

You know walk through that because you know, first of all, it's not true and the truth is

You know, I had to end of the day still it's still raining supreme

You know how do you then bounce back and get back to being

Chazee? Oh, no, this we just I'm just this is this is the first thing I'm doing. Yeah

Actually, it was just like all right, man

We played enough defense

2026 is all office

Well said yeah, well said he right. I appreciate the vulnerability to have seen like I was heartbroken. Yeah, for sure

Yo cold big

Cold uh just blaze

Called for real

Yeah, come on make the calls yo go in the batch ski

Fuck it call up the dream

Tell him what you're thinking come on. Oh, come on. Oh, it also on

The show he added a Sunday date now. Oh really. Yeah, it's just called extra innings

Interesting

So we got to go to four-hole shows and so that's a lot

Extra innings maybe the ones

That's every Michael come on. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah

I'm excited. I'm already

Texting my connect now

Who's your connect you don't want to know

Okay, it's uh, it's it's it's it's just be busy

Believe it or not she got like the illest like industry connects

Who goes you know, so

Yeah, okay

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Well, what's your thing going to happen at that uh sunday show extra innings extra innings show

I think that's the one stars coming out. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. Yeah. Oh, you think it's gonna be the future night

Yeah, yeah, okay

Because if you don't want reasonable doubt the first day blueprint the second day

I'm but he's not treat

From I remember the 10 year reasonable doubt you do the album and then it was like a whole another show after that

He he's like a little intermission and they came back out and started running through the hits now. He didn't bring me guests out

He brought every guest that was featured on reasonable doubt gotcha, but well outside of big of course

But um well, who do you think is coming out on sunday big freeze? Oh, man Ross for sure. I think we see Ross up there

Um, I would be surprised we see Wayne up there

Yeah, you're right. You're good. You're good. You're gonna just be fucking up. See Wayne up there doing what

rapping with whole rapping what god dead

I was sent by mr. Carter on what stage

I think I just think that y'all think that Jay-Z is kind and he's not I don't see I don't see him sharing his

When opening up Yankee Stadium on a Sunday for me to invite another another nigger last name Carter to do his song

Hey, Mr. Carter on my 30 event. I don't know

I think I think I can see I can see it happening. All right. I'll take a I'll take a

We'll do predictions with the predictions

I'll be crazy that whole we see what cow she has to say about that one

Who else who else Ross Wayne who else you got coming out beyond say his the stage of course, okay?

Drake

All right, man. What else you got?

Jay-Z make moments

He will make a moment and if Drake hits that stage, it's gonna be a moment. Come on. Yeah, what else we got what other topics

We got y'all

We just we just up here being we just sound like fans now

Sound like fans just talking about Jay-Coli

What other topic do I'm I'm finished we talk a little bit about cuz you hiked this up for this

I was looking forward to I think I texted it to you the group

That footage of Justin Timberlake. Oh my god

Man boom

Weeks we've been waiting for Justin Timberlake footage because we were hoping for it in word drop

We were hoping for some crazy

Hard we are cuz he was he was fighting so hard to not have the footage released

We thought it had to be so good to it. They call they call Jack Harlow hard hard our Kelly

Hard our Kelly that's funny. Sorry. Um, so the Justin Timberlake

A rest footage came out when he was in the Hamptons drunk

The footage that his team was fighting to suppress was released and I even I think that was the Okie-Dok move now

Like you fight to have it suppressed as if it was something that was mind-blowing and then when it comes out people will let down

Oh

It was a lot it was just me I was winding that shit like come on just give me one just one in words. Give me one

That's all I need is man. He was just regular drunk. He was just regular can walk straight drunk

Talking slow drunk. Was he driving a minivan? I don't I couldn't see the car

I couldn't make out what the car was

What's like a minivan? Yeah, when shocked me so when the cops officer pulls him over

The most interesting thing to me was he didn't drop the I'm just in Timberlake thing as fast as I would have

I feel like if he drops the I'm just in Timberlake sooner

Maybe he gets out of this I have my music playing when you'd walk up to the car

He was already clearly drunk like you can't let the office you gotta be get plausible deniability like look and he got to a weird

He got to a weird the world tour part was funny. Okay, you're on a world tour world tour

I'm a cop. I don't understand what you saying. He's like

It's gonna be hard. That's why

He's gonna be cool. That's why I don't want to do it. There's no such thing as humble after you say I'm out of here on the world tour

Humble is out the window

We're not we're not assessing your humility level. What are you doing in our neck of the woods drunk right drunk right now?

I'm gonna world tour clears up a lot of shit

I'm on it, but he just got to do it smoother than that. I'm not on the world tour in the Hamptons

Yeah, he's what I would have said like you why not you would kind of think

Assuming that I'm Justin Timberlake. I'm one of the biggest artists in the world. I assume you're just

And you went to Hamptons, so it's a different demographic and they'll say oh parks look short again

But you don't look the same. I wouldn't be thinking that

One the cop didn't recognize me or

Would have inquired like what are you doing up here? You know what I mean?

Like those are normal cop questions if you black. Yeah, you look like you don't mean Frank Lucas. No good

He's trying to rob Frank Lucas. Yeah

I ain't even he needs to be a job on him. He look like the bad guy

Like yo, you or Roselle wherever you from yo, you you would think that a nigga would start asking you those questions

And then it'll give you the opportunity to start telling all the shit without you have it if you're black

If you black he look like he belonged in the Hamptons

He just look drunk. No, but when the cops pull us over there. Yo, what you doing out here?

What you going where you going? They start asking us

They never ask tax so so here's what you do

Hey officer. I know I just I know I'm swerving a little bit

I'm Justin Timberlake from in sync. I have a security issue. Get out

I was following my friend for security, you know what I mean because I'm because I'm Justin Timberlake

I'm a yeah, I would immediately just I would immediately create a situation with officers not focusing on me being

drunk

Okay, and explain I would get to that shit so fast

I like old drunk driving is bad, but Justin don't look like a good drunk driver

That is terrible. We can yeah, yeah, he probably hasn't driven a car

40 years okay, so then when you say my my my party left me okay somebody in your party was not supposed to let you by on a wheel

Because you're dressed in Timberlake. That's right. They want supposed to leave you at all that part

You just in Timberlake and why are you doing I know bitches with you fuck that hunter odyssey Joe

Now he was doing something why are you 50 in the amperes do something by yourself?

Yeah

It caught me. Yeah, he had the bricks in the back

He just left something that the security and my people's couldn't stay around for because I was doing something

Real time, you know you getting back

Yeah

Freedom he ain't doing nothing too bad. You took his car from a letterman man at what point in the sobriety test

Did y'all realize he was going to jail

When he come what when the dudes are yo put your foot over foot over foot. I should nine times

I tried to do my house over it, but I got

I'm gonna jail he told him to do it nine times. He was like yo, listen man

Like your brother. Yeah, you like your brother. It's as this meant to frustrate you

Even if you miss yeah, come on, dude. Like what are we doing this shit, too? I look I just I was about to say even if you pass the walk

Straight shit by the time they get to your touch your nose touch your forehead touch your chin. All right touch your nose again

No, no, let's say Simon give me the ticket world. Yeah, arrest me talk about you. You ain't you ain't see the what it was viral

Yeah, me doing that shit on the white stone

They even move the car

You did actually before. Yes, I did that shit before

I've never done that word you pass it

One time no

I'm one for two

UTS you guys respect the airways

Yo, it was one it's funny. It was actually viable. It was this bad shit fire. You found her

They had her doing the test. She's

Acid in the test and flying colors

Fire to have to police or me came out to watch on it. It's no locked up for what? Yeah, you know why

You have the right to remain here, but not why didn't what they excuse you they used to lock up. I have no

Yeah, you know what time it is the test ain't supposed to you're not supposed to necessarily now

Or fail it. It's how you

Do it right if you're stumbling if you look if you're

Inco here it was get more observable behavior. I get it. That makes that makes it to me

I mean he clearly was drunk when they pulled him out of the car

How do y'all go about letting the cops know that they like they pulled over real one when y'all get pulled over

Like have y'all ever dropped your all name or your company or there's a PDA card

That's what

What do you I just stare I just I'm not that famous right so I have a

So I have to I had to kind of face that like they like I know you from somewhere

So I just keep staring them in the face, but she's a black cop

Yeah, that might work all the way

No, I gotta ignore it. No, I didn't hear what you say the troopers. You know what you say

It could play with you in that way. Let me tell you something. No, I'm the Jersey State troopers will

Don't and P.A. It works as long as you

See the jersey

I have a brand new statement hoody on

That second and third car

You got to do that once the second car come out just start

Make the call

They booking me dead

That's it

I'm famous. Yeah, you're the most famous person up here. Do you do you use your fame for that purpose?

Like do you like do you expect and recognize you do you say like hey, I'm Joe button

Is on his license? I would I would hope that they do

I'm mostly pulled up if I'm if I'm getting pulled over to New Jersey

Why in drivans I ain't getting good because I remember a couple months ago

You told a story where your driver got pulled over and I was like didn't you just like lean forward and like say something to the officer

I don't do that. Yeah, no, I don't do that. I just wrote my window down and he immediately

records me and then you were good

Honestly, but honestly like I don't think that's so much a big fame thing, fame plays a large partner

Honestly, I've been in New Jersey around these parts for so long that the niggas on the force just being me as they know

It's from my way

Like we kind of you didn't give him lot of information

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It's our big room.

That's talking Joe.

It's our big room.

You know what I'm saying?

It's not big room.

Look, it's $45, worked in Jersey City's PD over here,

and now I'm just sharing over here.

Like, you're just gonna know these guys now.

It's gonna be a Starbucks, which you don't get on my suite.

Yeah, I asked my driver that other day.

I said, yo, do you know I'm famous?

I asked him.

Cause he was doing that whole drive 10 miles out with things,

I went to cameras and the owner police.

And I was like, yo, dawg.

When they come, what the last time?

I rode a window down on my face car, right?

We was good enough to speed up.

I didn't.

But I would hope that they recognize me.

I also try to be as legal as I possibly can today

so that I have less interaction with the police.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And respectful.

That respect should go a long way.

Long way.

It does, Joe.

Sometimes.

Sometimes they got a little accident.

Yeah.

They got accident credits.

I mean, ain't no, you could do about it.

Sometimes they don't go for much respect for us.

Well, Justin is free.

Our prayers work.

Shout out to Justin.

Shout out to Justin.

We happy for you.

Don't do that again.

We learned your lesson.

Get over.

Yeah, enough of the T-dose.

No T-dose and dry.

Enough of the titties.

That's what he was coming from.

Let's go.

He's not.

I won't get my brain to go.

He did.

It was a part where he was at this police station filling out

the thing and then the little, the white box.

And he was like, white.

White.

White.

I saw it.

And he said, uh, this kid.

And that's a funny, funny boy.

He too drunk to be funny.

I had to.

I took it the whole different way.

He took it the whole different way.

You know, I'm going to drop it.

I don't think you've got to drop it.

It's your wife.

Sometimes you still got to drop it.

Got a mom.

If a fellow white and giving you the good white privilege.

That good white treatment you're looking for.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey, hey.

Hey, hey.

Hey, hey.

Hey, hey.

Hey, hey.

Yeah

Soul Wars in here

Why do you want to do that? No, like you hang with like you

Like I've you've it's yes

Like with some fucked up shit's having some racist shit or some polition

Do you ever like take the lead as the white person that tried to this don't help really don't they choose you like a traitor?

Yes, they probably be mad at you. Yes

Historical speaking in my experience. I can't stand the fuck over there, boy

Be rap one of you one of you one of you super professional people explain to me what meek Mill is doing on LinkedIn being super professional

Yeah, he's been professional. What is LinkedIn help me help me now?

It's like I'm lands and like I'm slow. Yeah, yeah, you post your resume online and people find you

Social media for business network. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, but it's it's got it's it used to be like almost a

Like people that were searching for jobs. Yeah, it's it's grown. It's it's it's it's a

Permanent now like like even a no who told me to get on LinkedIn. I ain't do it. I'm the hoes

Why don't say Matt a bunch of his deals are coming from LinkedIn. Yeah, so did you do it? I did

You know me, but no, so supposedly some people are using that shit as a networking tool to make bread and get and get

Brand deals and shit like that. It works does it. Yeah, are you on it? I'm on there. I don't use it a lot, but

Have you gotten deals from there?

Don't have agent, but like it's it's good for like

Different kinds of networking a lot of corporate networking. It's really good for corporate networking

Because what it does is it'll be like this if you know this person you should all kind of other social media

You should know these people you should be connected to these other people and people now do like corporate announcements

They do press releases. It's it's gotten like you said it's gotten bigger

But a lot of people I know get job interviews and job opportunities even especially the executive level right from now

I don't know if it's good for like entertainment networking, but it's definitely good for like like I love I love mix curiosity

Yeah, like I don't have anything negative to say about that

But it just seems like he's in search of something that

He's having trouble explaining I'm confused by it because for the same reason you are it's like again

He has agent lawyers. He's connected to the richest and most powerful people in the world at least in our industries

It seems weird. I mean he would need to be or do we know that he's still connected to those relationships

It's still solid and I think once you see the other side of the game

Now you want to explore that more because you see like it might be real way more money over there than over here

But now if I lose that connect or if I just want to venture out on my own and not necessarily have you feeding me all the time

Then he might want to yeah, you know take a stab at that spot. He just seemed too big for it. I disagree for LinkedIn

Yeah, for this route. Yes, I think he's too big for announcing that he's over there

Like I don't think he's too big if if if if meek is independent and meek is kind of navigating on his own

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just some my my and I don't know if he does it for engagement

Purpose is as well, but I think the announcing it on like Twitter and stuff

Do they have that way? That's when it looks a little. Can I be you for a second? Do they have a verified situation?

Because maybe that's just way of saying this is really me over here if you find me

Is this a is this a brand deal is he is he in pay by LinkedIn to endorse in LinkedIn? You don't be

They think it's possible

Could be that would not know

I just think it would look different

Yeah, be more polished this seems like old guy trying to figure out the Wi-Fi code

Like that's how it looks. I think if it were a partnership, but would just look a little more

Well, you're trying to make it look organic then it's a bad job

It's a bad job it organicness

It's like me just trying to figure it out. Yeah, it seemed like he don't have

For the the mainstream part of his career

It looks like he had people for everything and now it's like those people are not there

Yeah, so he's trying to just navigate whether be on his own or with a smaller team or whatever

Hands-on isn't that the case when you go independent?

Yeah, I mean, but you still would typically I don't know theoretically someone his stature have a manager or agents or both

Where you're maybe not running the LinkedIn or what if what if I have a manager and I don't know this to be me

Situation, but I got a manager, but I ain't seeing how that I would do

Then fire because we've seen a lot of cases where people don't like they manage me

People don't like who I'm signed on I'm working with over here. So I'm gonna try to do this on my own

Maybe he can't fire

For me, it's like it'll be almost the equivalent of somebody doing like an online date nap as a as a celebrity

It's like there's nothing wrong with it and I hope it works for you

But you're almost too big to me for to need it

But also you're almost too big to for it to work the way it's supposed to because you're gonna get flooded with so much

You know what I mean? You're gonna get a lot of demos even a LinkedIn. That's what I'm saying

Like I think it's not gonna work out from the way he wants it to but again

I love me and I want to be successful when I I'm watching him navigate the process of being independent and it's hard

So you know salute to him. I just this I don't understand this one

It was it was so and it was so strange to me like you parks. I wonder if it was really him right right

I mean, this is on the list of things that I don't understand that he's done

You know what I mean? Yeah, hey, I want it. I need five million dollars to because I want to do an album and a movie and I'm tweeting this

Yeah, like it's it's a lot of it just seems like I don't have nobody

That may be the case might be

All right, I

This story is so funny to me and we're so did you all see the Mary J. Blige interview a couple days ago?

I don't I missed it. No Mary gave it interview where she was talking about like the early stages of her career and

And a very particular experience she had with a veteran vocalist

She didn't say what the person was but she told a real interesting story here it is

I was here and you may have heard this before but I ain't saying no man. I just met this person and I was excited

So excited to meet them and this is when you know back then when your roots was dark and your hair was blonde

But people didn't know what it was but we knew what it was

Okay, so this person goes you really should dye your hair your roots the same color your hair

And you need to learn how to sing on key. Thank you. She's the same

I say it on names when I was like

Okay, let me go and see if I'm singing flat or whatever it had me work

so

We could pause it right there right so for like two days airbound internet was trying to figure out who she was talking about

I knew who she was talking about but in a couple other people did and of course the internet did it's

Exactly, they started internet and they put up this classic

But somewhat recent interview

From the person here it is was here

1990s

When you would introduce the Rufus song sweet thing

This is your ballot. I wrote it. You would call it the song Mary J. Blige fucked up. Is that true?

Okay, but so you did believe

She fucked it up. How'd she fuck it up?

Number one and Rufus was flat

And I told her after I said what time did you when did you what time of the day was it night?

We're doing when you decided to come

Girl, I've been up all day tonight. I was at 8 o'clock in the morning girl

Say girl, you don't sing nothing at 8 o'clock in the morning

Especially if you have to get up to sing

You'd been up all night smoke a crack or something

What you don't get up at 8 o'clock in the morning

The same girl, but she and I have that kind of relationship. We can talk. Yeah, you guys are not recording together, right?

Yes, you know, I love her. She loves me. We don't have a problem. Yeah, the press would love to make it a fucking problem

I wonder how

The press would have to just

That's crazy. You're old people. Yo, baby stuff. You don't have to have it a fuck. They wanted to

They don't cast crazy

First first of all

Shaka like Shaka made it sound like I told Mary to a face not in front of the cameras, but she's in front of the cameras right now

I mean this is what we got to love about our veterans with old G's man. I say the old G's they they just that's where they come from

They honest like that. They don't care. No, no punches. No, no, no, no, I want that. I was just watching something

You know speaking on this topic, but it's something similar that I saw you touch on with even potential to the coaches

I'm gonna get to that later, but they got we need some of that

Somebody to be honest like that. Yeah, I think it's too sensitive these days. Oh, I love the honesty behind the scenes

Especially you got the anti-relationship where you could be like, but it's not like like according Mary's version is very different

The Shaka's version. Yeah, that's the funniest part to me how two people experience something different

It's not like Shaka was just on some auntie shit like look, I'm pulling this girl side showing the love and it felt like Mary

It was like I don't really notice person and then coming over talking with my hair and my voice to like the first time

I'm showing grace and I'm showing respect to the OG. I really did the stories could have been the same

But Mary had enough cool for not to really

Like I'm having respect and telling the story. Yo, I don't know if you was up all nice smoking crack come on my nigga, right

Particularly at that part coming for Shaka Khan

That has to be said

I'm not sure she was over in this

But if there's anybody that could say that it would be Shaka. Yeah, wouldn't Shaka be on the list

Yeah, yeah, I just feel like bad taste if you kick in my back and in public

You gotta you gotta add a little and I can relate to it. That's all I'm saying. Okay

Otherwise it comes off a little like judge Mitchell like you waking up early in the morning when she's smoking crack like

I've never seen a sober Shaka Khan before

I agree with what you're saying

I just also feel like you open the door for that once you cover somebody's record. Mm-hmm. Talk about it

If you call that's interesting. If you cover somebody's record

I think it would be naive of you to think that that person is just either gonna have all great things to say or

Nothing to say at all like that

Like if you're doing a tribute

Yes, it will be classy for the person you're honoring to sit there and give you the

But the greats don't do that

My thing is yo, I think it's my opinion when you cover some I am and I just think tact and koof are a part of

Being in public like yo dog like the lady covered your song. You could have hated it. You could say you aren't really careful

Like it's a way to say you don't say yo yo is up on ice smoking crack. I think he said that's a tact and koof came

In the 80s 90s

What you hit a certain age you lose a lot well not you not everybody, but mostly a lot of motherfuckers moves

Tact and koof one of them Jones

Hey, we are the world if you don't get you saw his face you think niggas look that micro face when they were singing and oh

Michael like it. No, nigga. It was on his face. He probably said something

But at least he just made faces to him. He was saying he was telling niggas a shit also

And damn, that sounded like I'm just keeping Fisaka and I'm not tryna do that. But also

if you were singing flat

And if your hair looked a mess when you want

When you want somebody to say that to you. Yes

No and an anti type of question. Stop it

Yes, the record was out. No. This is mario sang there would be after my records. That sounded flat

Let's just what can I do about what you did when you did that sound flat the next time

Okay, that's fair, but Loua Mary said, Mary said she went back to go see if she was, that's

what Mary said.

I got an interview.

Shaka Khan and you know Mary's like icon with regards to style fashion, et cetera, et

cetera.

There was a point in time where they were purposely doing the shit with the roots and

that's what Mary was saying.

And that's what she was saying, like yo, she older, she didn't understand what we was doing

like.

Greta May.

Cool.

Greta May.

Greta May.

But Mary was very graceful.

I concur.

We love Mary.

We love Mary.

In fact, respectfully.

I would love to meet Shaka Khan live.

Sure.

Me three.

Me agreed all that.

In the 70s, the 80s or now.

She's a Shaka Khan show coming up that I'm missing and something that we fighting to

get tickets to.

No, she had to boom now.

Is what they're saying, Joe.

Oh, you would fuck Shaka Khan.

You all would fuck Shaka Khan right now.

That'll wake me up.

Shaka Khan is fine.

Yeah.

She looks good.

Oh, how old is she?

I don't know.

She looks good.

Niggas are smoked Shaka Khan.

Shaka Khan.

Shaka Khan.

Shaka Khan.

Niggas are smoked for you.

Yeah.

Freeze.

I'm not playing with Shaka.

I'm not going around.

And she was sticking down the car.

I think I'm not going to strip on me.

I'm working on nothing but cavemen.

These niggas weren't there.

You wouldn't say that Shaka Khan of you within your situation.

No.

And she wasn't there.

No, I wouldn't.

I mean, I also didn't see whatever picked y'all saw.

I'm really talking about Shaka Khan from back in the day.

Sure.

Shaka Khan.

Yeah.

The Black Panther Shaka Khan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now I know she's probably down with the Black Panthers,

the organising Chicago.

She should just really get it going, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

To the fire.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like that, I'm sorry.

You too.

Or Shaka.

Shaka.

I like it.

Remember.

I like that shit, man.

Yeah.

Just tell me, be blunt.

When she did the Black Fist, I was.

I could do seem like if you did too,

you fuckers, you'll make a mistake

and tell the homegirls that your dick is amazing

and then all the homegirls don't want to fuck you.

She seemed like one of them.

Oh, it's little.

Well, yeah, okay, I have the opposite effect.

I shouldn't work with cavemen here.

I'm like, we should be able to just touch some of our brains.

Everybody up here is restraining themselves.

I trust this.

Like, anybody restraining themselves.

But that makes us more cavemen

than we have to show such restraint over

fucking shotgun topic.

Just saying, man.

You're still on fucking shotgun.

Just on the open screen.

No, no, when you die, game.

No, just on, but in terms of the actual analysis

and I think I like Mary J. Blige's version

of the record.

But when you go back and listen to it,

we'll shock her, right?

Did it sound flat deal?

I would have to go back and add a lot.

Unfortunately, we don't have the time.

Do you want to understand her?

It's your quality and all that stuff.

We do that, we do that, we do that, we do that.

We do that, Patreon, awesome, busses.

Yeah, that's not what I was doing, the sweet thing.

Mm-hm.

Oh, sweet thing.

Yeah, man, I was just, some yams on sweet thing.

Yeah, man.

And I'm about, who was flat deal?

Oh, that one's what I was just talking about.

Yeah, that's what you're on, 92.

You know what, you know, yeah.

Imagine fucking shotgun trying to get your name

wrote in the will and then she passed

and you realized that she stole the shit somebody else.

Oh, God, you said that.

You're just fucking for nothing.

You ain't got a, you ain't got not a liquor fucking.

Well, that's just real, we're fucking for nothing.

Yeah.

It wasn't in it for the will.

Come on, spin.

Oh, the will is there too?

Oh, great.

Speaking of fucking, come on, come on, let's get to it.

Shake your man, shine, doubles down.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Ice was excited, we wanted to talk about it.

What excited outside?

But, um, yeah, shine, God, win the would brand, he said.

God win.

And he said, I don't know what's wrong with her.

I spoke from a place of admiration

and the place of reminiscing on my experience with her,

which I didn't care to highlight the negatives.

It was only positive.

She lied to Oprah about being married

and had to go on Oprah and apologize

because she said she did that to protect the image.

I can't get in her mind.

I'm just saying that she lied to the public

before to protect the image.

Maybe the fact that she was seeing both Mason

and I at the same time,

she feel it's not good for her image.

It seems messy to me.

Yeah, it's messy.

It is messy.

Shine being so messy.

Because he ain't got nothing else to do.

He's not in office anymore.

He got an album coming up.

Projects coming out.

Yeah.

He got a project coming.

I don't like it.

I don't like it at all.

He seemed like a thorough dude to me.

So this is this behavior.

He didn't bring it up though.

He's still talking about it.

He's still talking about it.

Hold on.

If something was brought up

and I just stated what I said,

somebody come back and say, I'm lying,

I might go and try to go back and clear that up.

What's wrong with her saying,

yo, I'm lying to protect my image.

About some shit that happened 20 something years ago.

If you say it, it's over 30.

Yeah, I've been in the years.

If somebody come out and say something about you

that didn't happen or you say, yo, I was with this person.

Because you don't say I'm sorry.

It came up in conversation.

And then somebody, no, he's lying.

I wasn't with him.

All right, that wasn't that.

That was just, we were just platonic friends

and there was nothing more.

And Niggas, let it go.

Hold on.

That's not what happened.

Let it go.

What's wrong with letting it go?

Well, man, we gotta sometimes shut the hook up

and not look messy and let it go.

Not just that.

What you might have thought, we could be funny

or we could be men.

Niggas, we've had platonic relationships

with girls that we popped before.

So her labeling it a platonic relationship,

don't say she's lying.

Let's go, ish.

In this context it does.

No, it does.

Here's my say that.

Here's my say that.

Because he says, if he implies that they popped

and she says, I'm responding to the things

that she basically was correcting the record.

She's basically what he said wasn't true.

I agree that you could have a platonic friend

who you had sex with before.

I'm not disagreeing with that.

But she was responding to their conversation.

So I think a reasonable person would interpret that

as saying, he lying on his dick.

He lying on his dick.

He lying on his dick.

So let it go.

I'm going to let you.

I understand that.

But I'm saying everybody ain't going to let it go.

All right.

That's all I bet.

Everybody's not.

And I think yo to drag this woman as Monda her business

and her fucking house reason her kids.

Thanks for me and me and my man

fucking her at the same time.

It prints the picture of her being a whore.

She's in the house Monda in a business.

Yeah.

Like yo, Monda, we know what's going on.

It paints a wrong picture of this lady

that's Monda her fucking business.

So now for her to come out and say, yo, me and Sean

had a platonic relationship.

And that's the extent of it.

You got to let it go.

That's great.

OK.

Yeah, Sean trying to paint it, however,

whatever he for you's just read off.

Him trying to paint it that way when you're having that conversation

in the room with somebody who somebody else who allegedly,

you know, was intimate where it has that boy's locker room

kind of feelings already.

There's no way you could have the boy's locker room conversation

amongst somebody else who also maybe did that.

And it seemed like you're honoring that person.

Yes, it's hard.

It's cherishing.

It doesn't matter if I wasn't the one that brought that up.

Like no matter, I'm asking, no, I don't think it matters.

I still don't say that if I know I did something

and you know you did something.

I know the world.

Why does the world need to know we did something?

And I ain't going to hold you yo to keep it a buck.

I want to decide.

I'm with this.

Let's bring back at what point is somebody able to lie

about some of the bodies that they've left behind?

Yo, I don't want to live in the world

where we got to tell a truth about everybody we fucked.

No way.

Are you kidding me?

Oh, well, it's some bitches right this second where

if they got a mic and just happen to be on the podcast

and was asked about me and they got the target

and they tell a truth.

I fucked that nigga.

Boy, I would lie to the wheels for it.

No, I would deny that it's about four of them.