Episode #96 Featuring Lea Llovio! CONSCIOUS WELLNESS! Connecting the MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT! Spiritual Awakening, Finding your true self, The role of Nutrition in mental health and more!

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All right, everybody, welcome back to the Dylan Jamelli podcast.

So I have an amazing guest today, and once again, I am super grateful when my guests

fly in to see me.

So thank you for coming in.

It's always an honor to me to have people that are willing to come in here and think that

it's worth their time to come and see me and talk.

So we are going to talk about a lot today.

We have a good connection on things that we talk about that is exciting to me because

I'm really the past several months put a lot of work into connecting mind and body, and

I know that's your specialty, and I love that, and I can't wait to really get in deep

with you on this.

So my guest is known as the Doc Whisperer, and she's a conscious wellness thought leader,

and she's a globally sought-after keynote speaker.

And she integrates scientific medicine and spiritual medicine, which I absolutely love.

And we are going to get into intricate detail on everything you do and uncover, I think

some things that people are probably unaware of that go along in their lives and things

that I know that you work on.

So thank you and welcome Leah Lobio.

Thank you so much, Dylan.

It's really my pleasure to be here.

And I like you feel very grateful that in the wellness community that we're now starting

to realize the importance of our thought processes, of the mind, body, spirit, connection,

and we do so much in the wellness world.

We use devices, we use light therapy, supplements, peptides, all of the things, and there are distinguishing

factors in people on who they actually work for.

Because you and I both know the people that do everything and sometimes just can't seem

to get better.

And so I'm really grateful that you've invited me to have this conversation and that you've

also pivoted somewhat into bringing more of the mental, emotional, and spiritual wellness

that really affects our physical healing, which is so, so important.

I think that's what makes us conscious wellness people.

Yeah, I agree.

And you know, it took me meeting Dr. Dave Rabin and getting into the neuroscience stuff

and then piecing it together and making my life about becoming God first.

That's when I really started to understand the need for the spirituality on my happiness.

But then correlating it all together to bring it all together is one because I can give

you all the diet in the world, all the training, everything.

And if you're not good here, it doesn't really matter because we're not going to fix anything,

right?

What kind of battles do you encounter with people that are struggling here and how much

can it actually throw off your total wellness?

Well, I love that you're mentioning that because I think they go hand in hand, right?

And it's really never one or the other.

For example, I will start by saying that conscious wellness incorporates the mental, emotional,

and spiritual and physical wellness.

Why?

For example, if we did all of the mental and emotional work, if we have a crap diet, if

we do not actually take care of what we consume, if we don't take care of our environment

as much as we can, it still makes it very difficult even to optimize the mental processes,

the thought processes.

So in the beginning for me, when I started working with people, I worked more on the mental

emotional and spiritual aspects of their lives.

But what happened as time progressed is that I had people that had everything going on

and they could consult with anyone they wanted to.

But if they were not actually incorporating the thought processes and really focusing

on what they thought about everything they were doing, what they thought about, what do

they think about these peptides?

What do they think about these supplements?

What do they think about pharma as a whole?

What do they think about scientific medicine?

If we couldn't fix what we think about all of the processes, all of the strategies and

all of the protocols that we do, then again, there's an interference to that healing process.

However, just the same, you can have someone who is a master meditator that has all of

the faith in the world that really feels peaceful spiritually.

But and this happens a lot, especially with empathetic people, people that have as their

goal in life to help other people heal.

If they don't optimize their physical body, if their brain chemistry is off, it's very

difficult to ask them to, you know, have a prayer practice in the morning, have a meditation

practice in the morning or mindfulness practice, why?

Because the brain chemistry is off.

The same thing with the hormones and I know you have a lot of expertise in the hormones

and in the physical wellness.

And so they really do go hand in hand and we, when we encompass all of it and it doesn't

have to be all at the same time, this is when you truly see people that are living these

extraordinary lives that you see them and they always seem happy, you know, they are healthy.

They have great vitality.

They have beautiful relationships and people that they love, they're thriving in their

business and their careers, why?

Because they decided at some point in time, you know what?

I'm going to be really ambitious.

Why am I just going to have material things or why am I just going to have physical health

or why am I just going to have a spiritual life?

Why not incorporate all of it so that we can live our absolute best life that could actually

really be bliss on earth and it really does start with the thought processes but realizing

that if you have any sense of spirituality, if you do believe that you are a spirit,

if you do believe that you have a soul, well, that beautiful spirit, that beautiful soul

did choose this physical vessel to navigate this life in.

And so we have to take care of both the mental, emotional, spiritual and the physical.

When you're like a type A personality and you never stop and I don't deal with stress

always perfectly and sometimes I think that one of the reasons that I was kind of pushed

towards this was more like God's work, teach people what you do, help them to overcome

the issues that you're having.

I think that when a lot of things that happened to us, for some reason when you go teach people,

they happen to you for a reason because you were meant to help people and teach people,

which then brings me to the question of how did this really become a passion for you

to where you decided, okay, I'm going to dedicate my life to helping people up here,

piece it together.

Was there something in your life that encouraged you to do that, something that happened to

you, something that you studied and you saw that turned the light bulb on?

What was it?

I think most people have their traumas, they have imperfect lives, right?

Especially as you're growing up.

In my particular case, I grew up in Los Angeles and Los Angeles can present you with any type

of chaos that you can imagine.

At the same time, I call it Los Angeles, the city of angels because I feel that sometimes

in the chaos, you find so many angels and really so many people come to Los Angeles to

the United States, to California to make their dreams happen, right?

And so in Los Angeles, we have every spiritual practice, every religious practice, every ethnicity,

every culture, every belief system, every political system.

And when you're surrounded by all of that, which becomes chaos, you must find a spiritual

center to anchor yourself in.

And I did grow up in the more violent areas of Los Angeles, per se.

And I'm actually very grateful that I did because I had to learn to use my spirituality

and my power to keep my own peace.

And at the same time, it really exposed me to so much pain and suffering.

And there's a lot of gangs, there's a lot of drug addiction, there's a lot of violence,

there's a lot of crime.

And so when you see all of that, you realize, wow, people are suffering, people really need

some help.

And if they don't have a spiritual anchor, it makes it really difficult, especially for

people that are living in poverty, for example, they don't have access to organic food.

For example, I grew up on pop tarts and, you know, twinkies and cheetos and spam, you

know, those were my meals, you know, I came from an immigrant family and that's what we

could afford.

We literally ate government cheese.

And so with that, even more, it became important for me to understand that there was something

more than this physical world.

And I was very blessed to be exposed again to many spiritual practices, to many religions,

to many types of healing, not just in the religious setting, but you know, many people that

come from many different places, for example, in some countries that don't allow people

to practice their religion.

So they find other spiritual ways to practice their spirituality.

They have to do it secretly behind closed doors.

And sometimes, you know, this is where lighting a candle comes in.

This is where praying to the angels comes in because you can do that anywhere, you can

do that privately.

And so with having that exposure in my life, it really made me always value that spiritual

relationship with the divine, you know, whether you call it God, you know, whatever you decide

to call it, but there is this spiritual presence that can anchor each person.

And the other thing about being exposed to all of these different practices is that I

think that God is so good, that God actually created all of these religions and all of these

practices to say, Hey, I don't care what you call me, just call me.

And so I really love that I was exposed to all of this.

And I was, when I was 16 years old, I was doing television shows, a lot for Latin America.

And then I ended up working on films as an actress and TV shows.

And what happened for me is that I ended up always being everyone's spiritual advisor.

Okay.

Everyone's therapist.

And although it was very, you know, lucrative and attractive to have this type of career,

I realized that my calling was really to help people mentally, emotionally and spiritually.

And I have always gone where I'm called.

You know, I feel that, you know, some people, I'm very

harsh on people and say, Oh, you know, you're not working hard.

You can do whatever you want.

Some people don't have the luxury of choosing what they're going to do.

Some people have to literally survive, right?

And so I think they're survival.

And then there's doing where what you're called to do, right?

And so also living in Los Angeles, that's another thing that you see that a lot of people

are in survival mode.

And so as I started having these relationships with people that became my clients, really

even though they weren't paying me, I had someone one day say to me, you know, I think

I should be paying you for this.

And so then my, that's when my career started shifting.

And I did this work privately for a very long time.

And I, because I started in the entertainment industry, I had very high profile clients.

And so I've always, you know, been under very strict NDAs and had to work that way, which

is very good because everybody needs someone that they can fully trust.

Exactly.

And especially when you have a public persona, right?

In this day and age, everybody has a public persona because we've got social media.

But back then it wasn't as prevalent.

And you know, mostly we heard about politicians or celebrities.

And so that's how it started for me was really following what I was called to do.

And knowing that my primary purpose in life is to serve that is the most important thing.

If I'm given this sacred physical vessel and this lifetime, then I'm here to do something

for the world.

It's not just for what's in it for me, you know, and I have found this to be the most rewarding

work in my life is to be there to serve others.

When one would have looked at what I had going on and said, Oh, you have everything, I would

go to bed miserable.

And I would wonder what was missing sweet cars with awesome house arcade in my house.

I mean, just all kinds of stuff, bunch of shit.

And I would think, why do I, why do I go to bed unhappy?

Why do I seem like I'm not something's off?

And when I stopped being like a slave to wanting stuff and became far more God first

and far more about others not dealing this, dealing that it was about, what am I doing

here?

What am I supposed to be doing?

How am I supposed to be doing this?

What am I missing?

Everything changed and flipped upside down.

My question to you is because I've experienced that, you find a lot of like emptiness,

letter trouble, a lot of anguish and stress or sadness, do you find that a letter?

Do you find people that are just pleasantly happy with all that stuff?

I find both.

And this is, I think one of the greatest blessings that I've had is that I've lived amongst

the extremely poverty stricken and I've also lived among the 1% and everything in between.

And what I can tell you is that you find the same struggles emotionally, mentally and

spiritually, whether somebody has a lot or a little on the physical realm.

And it does come down to, again, the mental, emotional and spiritual fulfillment while you're

trying to achieve the things.

It's a blessing and it's a tremendous privilege to have resources, you know, to have things

to be able to feed your family, to be able to live in a comfortable home.

It's a big privilege, absolutely.

However, you know, there was one friend that used to say, for example, with alcoholics.

They used to say, well, if you take an alcoholic who's a jerk and get him some food, they

are sober.

He's just a sober alcoholic.

He's not really going to, you know, be much better.

And I think ultimately when you achieve a certain level of success, all that happens

is that your true colors show just because it becomes easier because you, you know, don't

have to give too many explanations or work for someone else.

That's all.

But ultimately, who we are at our core and the fulfillment is not really going to change

so much with the material things.

It may help, for example, to get the help that we need, you know, you may have more resources

to get the therapies you need to get the help you need.

You know, we have a big homeless population in Los Angeles and a lot of that comes from

people with very limited resources that have mental health issues, for example.

And they just don't have the resources, right?

But the physical resources, the money, the property, the prestige, these things, they're

just one very small part of what can make a person whole or unwhole.

And really the fulfillment, it's when you're looking for the fulfillment in those things,

that the problem comes.

Because if you were unhappy before you had them and you didn't do any spiritual, mental

or emotional work, you're going to be just as unfulfilled when you have the material

things.

And it's also again coming back to that purpose.

And really a little bit of humility of knowing that anything we have, including just that

one more day, is a big privilege and it's a big blessing.

And when people come from a place of how may I serve versus what can I get, whether you

are working at the gas station or the CEO of a big company or the president, everything

changes.

And because when you know that you're doing your calling, when you know that you're making

a difference in people's lives and that your purpose is to help people, it doesn't really

matter what material things you have.

You will always be at peace, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.

The humility is a big one and I don't think a lot of people know what that means because

it's not just being humble, humility is being accountable to, being able to admit when

you're wrong, being able to accept certain things that are going on for what they are

and not thinking you can buy everything out or figure out everything on your own.

I stop trying to be in control and figure out everything out of my own, you know, and

try to, well, you know, I just ask God for help anymore and I'm like, okay, just please

help me.

I'm not trying to do this anymore.

I always like to be in control of situations, meaning I don't, I like to handle things

myself, right?

But in real life stuff where you need help, I just ask anymore.

And I think once you get to that level, things do become easier to deal with and to handle

the stresses and everyday life type of stresses, I'm curious about mindsets of people from

different ilks on what they're going through and how much stress they actually endure on

a daily basis.

The person was 75 million things going on more stressed even though they got a lot of

shit or the person that has nothing but is suffering because they're, you know, they're

just underprivileged.

What do you find to be the more, I hate to say problematic for you to work with, but

the one that you see has the most problems.

Mm-hmm.

That's a really good question and I can tell you that stress in the body is stress.

Yeah.

The stress in your body doesn't know how much money you have in the bank.

Right.

The stress in your body doesn't know what kind of house you live in, what kind of car

you drive, if you're famous, if you're not famous.

And really, it's about the thought processes, right?

So this is the main thing that I like to work on, whether I'm working with someone

high profile or a doctor or their staff or clients, patients that we share.

We always work on the thought processes first because for example, if you are really struggling

if you're underprivileged and if your thought processes are of anger and resentment at

your situation, you're stealing those thought processes from thinking about, well, what can

I do to make my life better?

What's one little thing I can change today that might get me out of this situation?

And that has a different effect on the stress in your body, on your cortisol levels, right?

You know that stress causes cortisol and it does all kinds of damage to your body, right?

But hope and having a desire and having wishes in your heart raises your serotonin, raises

your dopamine, you know, and so one of the things we have to do as human beings is brain

wash ourselves, right?

The same applies to if you're a high profile person, you're going to have a lot of people

that love you and a lot of people that hate you, right?

Then there.

And you can't control either one.

You cannot make people like you and you cannot make them dislike you.

It really, you can't ultimately.

You could be mother Teresa and there's some people that actually don't like mother Teresa.

This is mother Teresa, right?

So because maybe she had certain, you know, opinions on things.

So what can one do?

Again, it's the thought processes and going back to that, having some hopefulness in our

heart and having a desire to do something in this life to serve humanity.

One of the things that Maslow taught is that in order to achieve the highest level as

a human being is to be independent of the good opinion of others, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's one is that we must be independent of the good opinion of others because we will

never, ever be able to control what anybody thinks about anything.

So the only one we can start to control is ourselves.

What do we think about our situation?

Do we think about ourselves and the same thing, right?

You have people coming at you all day.

If you're very well known, people hating on you and now it's all over the internet and

all over the media, that's a lot to deal with.

So this is why we have to work on the thought processes and on having a purpose so that

you can always anchor back to that purpose, to those thought processes.

And it is a tremendous advantage if you do have a spiritual life.

If you do have someone that you pray to, if you do light a candle, if you do believe

in something greater than just this physical realm, most people that have that, they do

just far better in life.

Oh, yeah.

100%.

You know, I've been doing, I started doing YouTube in 2011 and I've faced a lot of, a lot

of things that most people would just completely crumble, things that were said to me.

And I didn't handle it super great, either I would be a little combative and say some things

and you know, my wife and my, she would see things and I know it upset her.

And I never wanted my stepkids to see things or anything like that because it's just terrible.

But I got to the point where I said to myself, who am I trying to impress and what purpose

does it do?

When I wake up in the morning, do I think about somebody that made a comment about something

that I had, like the shoe collection I had in the background and if they did, who cares?

Or if they said something bad about the way I looked or whatever, I mean, someone the

other day just did it was, you know, I showed her, I said, well, what are they talking

about?

Am I missing something?

Because they were talking about all this stuff I had on my face and I just had micro

kneeling done, right?

And they were saying I was doing this and that and I was like, huh, I don't care anymore

because why would I care?

Because as long as people are hearing the verbiage and getting the message, the message

you're simply there to just give it.

You're so right.

And guess what?

The people that are spending their time zooming in on you, the criticize you.

You're not the only one they're doing it to and the truth of the sad matter is that

those people are not living a purpose in their life.

They're spending their time, their energy, their sacred life energy on criticizing another

human being instead of doing something.

They're stealing from themselves.

They are the biggest thieves in the world, but the thing is they're not doing anything

to you.

No.

They're stealing from their own life.

They probably have something they'd like to do in life, but instead they're spending

time looking at your shoe collection and at your micro-needling and whether or not you

use the filter and criticizing you.

So this is very sad and I don't have a criticism on people that do that.

I have compassion for that.

Yeah, I feel terrible for them.

I always say I feel I used to make I used to have something that wasn't very polite to

stay back.

But now I wonder if they realize like what people like me, they're comfortable, say.

Right.

Why either get a good laugh out of it or we tend to make fun of them or I feel terrible.

Because if you spend your free time and this is what concerns me, because I have very

little free time and I've lost and I can tell you this, I don't want to say I know more

than anybody because that's not a fair statement, but I've lost a lot of time and there's one

thing you can't get back, you can't buy back, you can't create it back, you can't make

it back.

It's time.

It's gone.

It's gone.

You can't get it back.

It is gone.

And so my sadness for people like that is in your free time, whether you have kids, a wife,

a family or you could be doing something to, you know, training wise or educating wise,

you're spending your free time actually just looking for people to insult.

Terrifyingly sad.

And it's time and energy.

So you said it exactly.

We only have 24 hours in the day.

I don't care who you are.

You can't get more so far, right, unless we change the system.

But as of right now, we each only get 24 hours every day of this sacred life that is a privilege

to live and everything is time and energy.

And this is why I like people to be very ambitious, ambitious to be the healthiest, the happiest,

the kindest, the most compassionate and with your time, right, to realize that oh my gosh,

like you'd have no guarantee if you're going to wake up tomorrow.

You have no guarantee what, how many days you have left.

I don't care if you go see the best psychic in the world and what they say.

You have no idea.

And so really valuing our time and energy and realizing that every single day is composed

of that sacred time and energy that you get in this blessed life that you only get one

that you're aware of, you know, there may be people that have extraordinary, higher states

of consciousness that may be able to see many lives, but most of us just get to see this

one life.

And in those days, those 24 hours are composed of that time and energy.

And so what do you want to dedicate that time and energy to?

There's so much to do.

I know.

One of the things that I've really tried to work on and I'm going to lead this into a question

for you.

I like to set an example to lead into a question.

I love it.

So I have taken a lot of pride in being a doer, not a sayer.

I despise that.

Oh, I'm going to do this or I'll do this or one day, like one day turns into years and

years and years.

So I, if there's ever a moment where I say I'm going to do something and I don't,

A, I'm the first one to admit, like I'm so sorry and I don't try to hide it because

a lot of people will say stuff and they disappear and they never say and they act like

it never happened.

But I try with every, even the smallest littleest thing it will eat me alive if I can't

do what I say I'm going to do.

And I think that that is like I call it the lost art of accountability and it is prevalent

everywhere.

And I find that the people that aren't accountable or that talk a lot and don't do a lot

of the most unhealthy.

So I'm curious to your thoughts on why do you think people do that talking so much without

doing is it like they like to hear themselves talk, they create a facade to make themselves

feel better.

And do you find that their level of health, mental and physical is worse than it should

be?

It stems from that coming to the world and to life to see what's in it for you.

It really does.

When people are saying, I'm going to do this, I'll connect you here, I'll do that.

Many times, you know, they're trying to make that connection thinking that maybe if

they tell you that, maybe you're going to do something for them first.

In the meantime, while they get there, I've seen that a lot with people that are trying

to network and do things like this.

But the key here is that there's an emptiness, right?

And they're finding superficial ways to connect with other people versus again, if you come

from a place, if you have a practice, whatever that practice may be, your morning practice

which is really special and important because it sets the tone for our days, for these

blessed days that we get to live this life in, with how may I serve?

You know, I ask my clients to really think of three things that they're grateful for in

the morning.

That's good.

Yeah.

Three desires or intentions that they have just for themselves, just for themselves with

the sky's the limit, you can go big there.

And then I always say the most important intentions are how may I serve, how may I do something

for somebody else today?

How can I make someone else's life better today?

How can I do something without expecting anything in return?

And the way this affects the physical health is that when we come to our days with how

may I serve your body, the cells in your body, I say they start to do a little dance.

And they start to say, well, I've got this human here that's strategizing on how to be

of service to the world, on how to help other people, so we must be good.

And then the cells can relax and do the work that they need to do.

But when there's this tightness of, oh my God, I need to figure out how I'm going to get

this.

How I'm going to do that?

How can I tell this person, I'm going to do this to see if they'll do this for me?

Then your whole body's restricted, your body's full of stress, your consciousness is full

of stress, and your spirit is suffering because your spirit's like, hey, we didn't come

here to be like sucking on life.

We came here to give something, we've got some great work to do.

And so yes, it absolutely affects the physical body, it absolutely affects physical health.

And I see this again and again with some of the extraordinary doctors that I'm blessed

to work with that are traveling all over the world, speaking at conferences, you know,

every week, internationally.

And I work with them and I see them in person and they have tremendous stamina and they

do walk the talk and they are very healthy, but guess what drives them?

They really want to help people.

They're here to serve humanity.

They really want to help people heal.

They are truly coming from a place of extreme generosity.

And you know, I cannot say names, but I can tell you that I know doctors that will travel

anywhere to help someone, even if they're not getting paid.

And these are doctors that are, you know, concierge doctors that get paid hundreds of thousands

of dollars a year.

They don't tell about that work that they do.

Yeah, they're not posting a facade on there to make their life look so expansive.

And that's, you know, that's stuff that I pull from the Bible.

It was like, don't try to pray in front of everybody so everybody sees it.

Do it in private and do it the way it's supposed to be.

And that's the type of things that some people do and some people don't.

And I think some of the best work is the stuff you mean anybody else doesn't see.

You know, like, here's an example.

You said the morning routine and I am like the most regimented routine guy on the planet.

And I have been for, I mean, my dad was that way.

But then when I went to prison, that was like your whole life was a routine.

That was what you lived on.

That's what you had.

And I still carried that with me.

And so now my morning walk, we talk about the sunlight and the steps.

But you know what else is nice for me is I walk by so many people in one small smile.

I can see, I can see the effect of me because I, you know, people walk on those paths

and they look down or they're on their phones or they just don't look at you.

I make everybody look at me to say hi.

And I, yeah, and I see, well, I don't tell you where I got that from.

My mom raised me that way, but it was something like I learned in my readings.

And then the priest had talked about it and it was like, don't put your head down.

Look at people smile at them because you don't know the type of suffering.

And one person in that one look could maybe save somebody's life or make their day.

So I just make everybody look at me and I turn and look at him and it's just to say hello

in good morning.

And that's it.

And some people, I think it catches them off guard and whatever, but those little things,

they make me, they make my soul feel good in the morning because some of those mornings

are stressful and I don't feel great when I go walk because I know I got a slew of stuff

to do and stuff like that.

It makes me feel way better and it doesn't take anything.

I always say treat everybody as if your life depends on them.

If your life depends on how you treated them.

And if we each come to our day, treating each human being as if, hey, if I don't smile

at this guy, he could have a say, you don't know, he might be the doctor that's there

when you're at the hospital or the nurse, you know, but more importantly, what you were

saying, absolutely, you know, you never know like where someone's rushing to, you know,

why they look mad and you're smile, even if they didn't smile back, we stores a little

bit of faith and humanity in them and they could be on their way to kill themselves.

Yeah.

I've literally had people on their way to kill themselves and say, you know what?

This woman just smiled at me and it just gave me a little bit of hope and they hung

on one more day, you know, so I thank you that you do that and I love that you do that

because it's so important.

If we each say, I'm just going to smile at people, you know, you really can change someone's

life and you can really save somebody's life.

And you do what all of our lives actually do depend on each other.

They do.

They do and you don't even realize it a lot of the times.

One time me and Queenie were at, I think we were at Macy's and I saw this woman buy

an all kinds of bedding and I was like, I asked her, I said, how the hell is she going

to take all that to her car?

I said, can I just go ask her if she wants help?

I don't want her to think I'm a weirdo, but at the same hand, so I carried all her stuff

to the car.

It took me like 10 extra minutes out of my day and the woman thanked me like 30 times

over, you know, and stuff like that, that if you just do stuff like that, I mean, it's

easy and it makes you feel good.

Yes.

And I think that that makes people healthier.

It absolutely does.

It actually raises your serotonin, their serotonin and anyone else who's witnessing it.

Everybody feels better.

Yeah.

You know, just like when you see a movie that makes you cry because it's beautiful and

touching, it's the same thing.

When we see and experience one human being being kind to another human being, not only

are they affected by a positively physiologically, but anyone witnessing it also gets a little

boost, gets a vibration boost, gets a health boost.

It's like getting a little IV of NAD.

Well, and so here, I have some other questions for you that are more on the nutrition side

because I'm curious about this.

I haven't really discussed this very much now that I think about it and this is what

these conversations are good and why no one should ever script anything because then these

things come up.

I am curious, diet wise.

Are there certain types of diets that you find to be better for the mind, that correlate

more with a healthier mind?

And once again, I do realize that everybody has different needs, necessities and conditions

that they may or may not have, allergies, etc.

But is there a diet structure or style of certain kind of foods that you find that are

happier foods that treat the mind a little bit better?

One of the doctors that I absolutely love is Dale Bredison.

Yeah.

I go to some conferences where he speaks and there's other professionals just like him

and their main goal is really brain optimization, preventing cognitive decline, preventing

Alzheimer's, dementia.

And they really do give a specific type of diet to patients that see early signs of cognitive

decline.

And they have the studies and it has been proven over and over again that when they do

move into a ketogenic diet for those type of ailments, it definitely moves a needle,

including for children like with autism, ADD, with schizophrenia.

They do see a lot of improvements there.

Now I am not an advocate for one specific type of diet because we are all different.

And you know, I do know some vegetarians that do well.

Most people overall though, because of the environment that we're all growing up in,

because most people are going to eat packaged food at some point.

They are going to have toxic food and seed oils at some point.

And most people, you know, if you're over 30, you probably didn't grow up on fully organic

foods.

So you already have some of those repercussions of a bad diet per se or a toxic diet.

You know, most people do very well with whole foods with organic foods when they're able

to eliminate processed food.

When you eliminate processed food, oh my gosh, you've eliminated so much just by doing

that.

But absolutely, you know, people with depression, for example, one of the things they

start doing is eating more and more sugar.

Yeah.

And that just feeds that cycle, that chemical cycle in their brain and they get more and

more depressed and they get that little dopamine hit just like cocaine, except its sugar,

and they feel better for 30 minutes.

And then they're even more depressed afterwards.

So there's definitely happy foods and there's definitely depressive foods.

And foods can definitely really make you very depressed, very anxious.

You can get migraine headaches right away, you know, for myself and the people that I work

with, we travel so much when we're at home, right?

We're eating our healthiest food, but sometimes you travel and you can't control absolutely

everything.

And you know, you feel those little reactions like, oh, all of a sudden, there's this little

headache or why my moody when I'm usually really even killed, right?

And it absolutely is, you know, the food.

And what's the one thing we can control most of the time is what we put in our mouth.

Yeah.

Right?

Because even the environment, you can't really control the environment, you can't control

the air everywhere.

No.

Right?

No.

But what you put in your mouth, that most of the time you can.

That's why I always tell people, look, I don't ever, I don't spend your money, I don't

do your finances, but I will say this, what you put in your body is the most important

of anything.

So I implore you, I get it, it's completely backwards, that it's more expensive to eat

healthy.

It makes zero sense, but we're not here to make sense of things.

We have what we have and we have to do what we have to do.

So I always tell people, look at your budget, what is it that you're spending money on that

you could push this way and not do that way that you don't need to do and just do the

best you can.

Because I know not everybody can do it, but do the best you can.

There are certain things you absolutely need to make sure that you're eating properly.

You don't want to be eating meats where they're eating on all these grains in this HMO.

That stuff is going right into your body, so whatever an animal eats, you're putting

into yourself.

And if you're a woman, like pregnant or anything, you're passing that right onto your

kid.

And I don't think that people understand that or I think that's like some facade and

it's so true.

And then there's things that you can maybe don't need to go as organic on, you know, and

whatever.

But I think that it needs to be stressed that it's not just your physical look and your

internal blood work up here too.

It'll just thrash you if you're eating bad.

It can be totally depressive.

Plus, if you look like shit, you're going to be depressed too.

Right.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

It's the greatest investment you can make is what you put into your body and the health

that you give yourself.

For example, this is really interesting.

There are some people that will go spend $2,000 on a bag or shoes, but they don't want

to spend money on organic food or they don't want to spend money on a really top doctor

or health coach.

They're like on another, not in my insurance.

And I'm like, OK, can you not do like three of the bags this year or three pairs of shoes

or one of the watches and invest that instead into your health?

That's where you get the biggest return, right, is investing in what you consume and

what you do for your physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual health.

It's the greatest investment of all.

I agree.

So let's do a little shift here because you are privileged to be around some experts

that know some stuff about peptides, some stuff about supplements, things like that.

I've been doing it a long time, so I'm versed on certain peptides, especially that I know

are good for the mind, anxiety, stress, things like that.

But I also know you can't be reliant on that.

You got to fix some other things first before you start getting into that.

So let's just imagine here that we fixed a lot of the things that we can that would then

make somebody able to be able to use these and get the most out of them or at least

close to the most out of them.

I just want to throw that out there.

You need to get yourself right in other areas first before you start taking things.

They're not magic, but let's just say we're aligned.

I feel that all medicine supplements, whether it is natural or it's a pharmaceutical

whether it's a peptide or sacred.

I think all medicine is sacred medicine and we should use whatever is really going to

help us.

One, sometimes get over a hump and then once we're well optimized, right?

Why would we limit ourselves to just being okay?

And so let's start with neutropics.

I love neutropics.

I have seen them change people's lives, you know, turn their brain on.

For example, people that really felt hopeless like they felt, oh, like I can't focus, you

don't know no matter what I do, you know, suddenly they start using a nicotine patch or

they, you know, chew nicotine gum three times a week or use a lozenge.

Suddenly their brain is turned on and maybe they're not going to use it every single day,

but it gives them that focus.

And that's something that, again, I'm not talking about cigarettes, by the way.

And there's a lot of confusion with nicotine and some of these extraordinary doctors that

I'm blessed to work with absolutely use nicotine, especially on many of their patients over

50 to prevent cognitive decline.

They also use it to help with a vagus nerve.

They also use it because that's connected sometimes to people that have like SIBO and digestive

problems.

So they will use a nicotine patch with them.

They also use it for travel.

Yes.

I've heard of that.

A lot of times for the immune system and if somebody starting to get sick, they will

tell them, hey, get a seven milligram nicotine patch and you don't put it on the whole time

right away if you're not used to it, but you start with maybe 10 minutes at a time.

And then most of these doctors, including myself, we travel with a nicotine patch, especially

for those of us that are always traveling, speaking at conferences, you know, you need

something to protect you.

Yeah.

So those are on the new tropics.

And of course, there's other ones that I've, you know, I'm not endorsing it.

Everyone's different.

But, you know, Medaphinal has been tremendous for people with ADD and a lot of people do

better with it than Adderall.

Yeah.

And again, a complete life changer, people that really felt hopeless.

Why would we not give them the tools so that they can focus and actually do what they

want to do in their life?

Oh, yeah.

It's a million time better option than Adderall in my opinion.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

Me too.

And so those are like more on the neutral side.

Sure.

And then for the peptide side, I mean, I think I mentioned this to you when we talked

on the phone.

I say peptides make life fair.

Yeah.

Right.

I agree.

That is my opinion on peptides.

Yeah.

So, for example, of course, you can use peptides.

And I think most of your audience is aware for anything from helping you preserve muscle

to build muscle, to resetting your circadian rhythms, to helping with your mitochondria,

to helping with your cognition.

And so some of my favorites, if we're still on the kind of neutropic cognition side, is

cerebral lichen.

I think that one is absolutely fantastic.

I have seen, you know, 70-year-olds that were really showing some signs of cognitive decline

to some rounds of cerebral lichen.

And they are like, oh, my brain is on, you know?

Because maybe at that age, some people may not want to do, like, medicinal, for example.

Yeah.

Right.

But cerebral lichen, I have seen just extraordinary success with that for, especially if you're

noticing some, or people that have, like, you know, have had trauma to their head,

like, athletes that have gotten, you know, some big trauma to their head, like, ball

players and things like that, they do extremely well with this as well.

Sure.

So, I love cerebral lichen.

And then, for the fairness part, working out, you know, people that, you know, they do

everything.

They're at the gym two hours a day, you know, they've got the diet dialed in, and they

just can't build muscle, because everyone's physiology is completely different, right?

And some people have, are very blessed, and they can easily build muscle, but others cannot.

So now, when you bring in some peptides, some growth hormones to critagogs, and I have

my own favorites, which are Tessa Moreland and Ipa Moreland.

Those are my favorites.

I laugh because Tessa Moreland is my ultimate favorite.

Me too.

Me too.

Yeah.

And, you know, it's a game changer.

Suddenly, they're not having to spend two hours at the gym Monday through Saturday.

Now they're going three times a week and having more balance in their life, and they're

actually starting to build some muscle.

Tessa Moreland even helps people with their lipids, with fatty liver, for example.

You can do the lab work on them, and you will see after six months of using it, if they

had a fatty liver, that's going to be really improved.

That's great.

You know, we've seen that multiple times.

And I want to connect the physical wellness and the muscle with also your stamina in life.

So physical muscle is so important.

You know, we have more and more, you know, doctors coming out talking about this, how important

muscle is, and how important it is for all cause mortality, the more muscle you have,

the longer you're going to live, and the stronger you're going to be.

And especially, you know, for women who at a certain age, if they fall down, break a

hip, we all know that the statistics are that within a year, they can die, right?

So that's one reason physiologically, why it's so important.

But building physical muscle just makes you feel stronger as a human being.

Yeah.

It's so important.

Just, you know, if I'm going to the supermarket, if I'm traveling by myself and having

to lift my suitcase, just knowing as a human being that I can do these things for myself,

makes me feel like, okay, I can do life, right?

Oh, yeah.

Versus if you feel weak and you feel like you can't lift things, you know, you, you start

to feel weak as a person.

I was going to say it has a, it has a cognitive effect too.

It's not just a physical effect.

Absolutely.

It always goes hand in hand.

I've been on Giardians for five or six months and it has made me weak.

It's made me lose weight and it's made me feel less.

And I look at the scale and go, oh, you know, I can, I would say, oh, I can get away with

eating more into the, but I feel like so much less.

And I had to stop taking it because it was draining my electrolytes, I was having heart

rhythm issues and I mean, just destroying different aspects of me because I'm not diabetic.

It was used for heart failure or beginning stages of it, right?

And so things like that that can take away and pull away.

And then we've got peptide options that can build.

I don't think a lot of people truly, truly understand how difficult it is to put on two

to three pounds of legit lean muscle and keep it.

I'm not talking about eating and gaining weight.

I'm talking about lean muscle gain and holding on to it.

It is very difficult.

It takes a very structured diet, a very structured, structured training regimen, one that is continuously

shocking the body.

See, a lot of people get it wrong because they don't adapt, you know what I mean?

They don't change.

They just, they, and they don't push themselves and they, then they say they don't get it.

But I, I get it in five seconds as soon as I analyze, right?

What, what you said about Tesla Moreland that I love is it gives you the ability to burn

fat and still build lean muscle, which you could do with, with it for Berlin too, but

it's not to the extent of Tesla Moreland.

I was going to ask you two of my favorites, our Selenck and C-Max, then paired together.

They really have a lot of synergy and it's more like the anxiety and the stress relief

and the calming effect and everything.

I love those two.

I do too.

You know, and that's why I wonder what your thoughts were on those.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, so many people use them.

I use them.

You know, I cycle through my peptides throughout the year.

I don't do the same ones the entire year.

There are some that I keep in place like BPC 157.

Yeah, that's a must.

Yeah.

And one of the ones that I absolutely love that actually one of our favorite people,

Dr. Elizabeth Yerth, she's the one who introduced me to that is TB 500.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Those are peanut butter and jelly.

Yes, absolutely.

But I use it at a higher dose because of her.

Yeah.

I used to do the lowest dose, but some clients of mine were having hair loss.

Really?

And so one of the things that we started doing is using it at one to two milligrams one

day through Friday for a few months and that totally reverse the shedding.

If you do a little loading phase with it and then do some maintenance afterwards, but people,

you know, once again, bad paraded information and misunderstanding that certain scenarios

require a little bit of different utilization.

I discovered peptides in 2011 because I was doing underground coaching and discussion

and found the research chemical market.

And there was like seven or eight you could pick from and that was it.

And now there's thousands for everything back then it was just like what you were talking

about.

And melanotan two and then a bunch of growth hormones to create oxygen.

That was it.

Nothing else to pick from.

So what are your thoughts on how it's changed and how it's evolved in the future?

Well, we have more chemical compounds now, you know, and that's another division, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have you heard of flute?

Oh, three through two.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That, you know, used the right way.

I have had some clients that were, you know, like a hundred pounds overweight and that

in combination with GLPs, but at very low doses, not the high doses that a lot of people were

using for a while.

I'm talking about a hundred micrograms, like very low, a loop or GLPs.

Loop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Very low dose combined with another one, band 15.

Yeah.

You have to run those together too.

Yeah.

And you know, especially for men, I have seen like real progress because there are some

men that have been overweight, like their whole life, where it's going, well, we will no

longer have to have these diseases, like we will not have to have heart disease or obesity.

If we're able to incorporate the right diet and the right compounds into our diets, as

I think you, I'm sure you know this, but many of the doctors, like they really do

prescribe the very micro dose GLPs, even for people that are apparently very healthy, just

for longevity, for anti-aging, for the prevention of cognitive decline, because it reduces the

inflammation in the body so much.

Yeah.

And see this, this discussion is important because the key here is proper use, the nicotine,

the GLPs, they're intended for a specific use and like anything else.

You start to abuse it, which you can do with vitamins, you can drink, I mean, in a more

extreme case, you could drink too much water, but you could, right?

So everything that we need that's good, you could also abuse it and then something bad

could happen.

A lot of these things have such benefit, but you start telling people and they freak out

and get all angry without understanding the way that you have to use them.

You are so right.

And the other thing that I find is that if they know of one person who had a bad experience

with something, they're like, oh no, no one should do medallinal or no one should do

sleep.

It's like, I would say there's something for everyone and nothing is for everyone.

Exactly.

Right?

That's exactly right.

I, I, there's like, like with the Giardians, for example, I am the biggest believer in

the world of SGLT2 inhibitors.

I think phenomenal, but right now it's not agreeing with me personally.

I am not going to say one thing bad about it other than there's things that I had to

stop and reset and then figure out how am I going to accommodate this if I'm going

to take it because it's doing this to me.

Although the benefit here is working because it is because like ejection fraction went

up six percent in a few months, but at what cost?

And how can I, how can I try to mitigate this?

And if not, then it's just not for me, but I certainly know it works.

You know what I mean?

Right.

People do this where I can't stand when the only correlation you have when you're teaching

somebody is what it did to you and not the 75,000 other people that it may have worked

for.

Exactly.

You know, and, and we have to get out of that trap in that mindset, right?

Because that's what it comes down to.

Absolutely.

It's having curiosity and being open and understanding that again, there's something

for everyone.

And also there's no compound that's evil.

There's no prescription that's evil.

It really is in how you use it if it's appropriate for you.

And of course, a lot of factors come into place, right?

There's people that say, Oh, you know, the GLP's don't work for me, but they get on a

GLP and they're still eating McDonald's every day.

And well, no, it's not going to work for you if you do that.

Or they say, Oh, I did lose a ton of muscle.

Well, you know, we know the appropriate way is to make sure that you get enough protein,

especially if you're going to use a GLP and you must do some resistance training to keep

your muscle.

Right.

And I know plenty of people, including myself that use GLPs that I've actually gained muscle

on microdoses of GLPs because we're using it appropriately.

Yes.

And I would argue if you can't eat enough with it, then you're probably taking too much.

There you go.

I mean, that would be one of the first telltale signs for me as a coach or a consumer.

Okay.

Let's scale it back, right?

So I think that there's so much misuse and misunderstanding.

And that's why there's so much infighting amongst people in general, because everybody's

on a one track mind, as opposed to wrapping their head around, wow, there could be multiple

ways or means of opinion or methodology or use.

Yes.

And, you know, you mentioned the mindset of this.

This is also very important, whether we're incorporating a peptide or a prescription

drug to really have the thought process and the mindset and set the intention for that

sacred medicine and to see it that way, you know, to bless the medicine, to ask whoever

you pray to, to ask God, please, you know, bless this medicine that that my body will take

it the right way.

You know, I know an extraordinary healer that did this for a patient that had cancer.

And in the beginning, the doctors didn't want her to be there, but he wanted her there

in the waiting room.

And after a while, the doctors wanted her there too, just because she was there doing

prayers and setting good intentions for everything to go well for the patient.

And this changed everything.

And so it really matters what our thoughts are about everything that we do.

If we go to the gym and say it never works for me, it's not going to.

If we take a peptide and we think, oh, this could be dangerous or like with growth hormone

or things like that.

Oh, that causes cancer.

If you think that way, don't do it, like literally just don't do it.

But if you can say, you know, the, the people who created every type of peptide, every

type of device that we use for our wellness, every medication, the initial start of that

was with a sacred desire to help people heal.

Yeah.

And intention of let me see if I can help people get rid of obesity, let me see if I can

help people with fatty liver, let's see if we can prevent more heart attacks.

That was the original intention.

And if we can set our intentions on whatever supplement we're going to use, whatever prescription

drug we're going to use, whatever peptide and say, you know, this came from a good intention.

This is here to heal me and really, you know, like just like some people pray over their

food, you know, and ask for that food to nourish them.

If we do that, that really does change it.

And I've done that with studies with people on the oral ring, for example, going to bed.

If they program their self with the intention of what, what, what are they really tracking

and what's the goal, right?

So many people want to improve the HRV.

Yeah.

Their REM, their deep sleep.

And if they program themselves, even with using some of the devices we use, like the Apollo,

and say, you know, I'm going to use this and it's really going to help me get into this

deep sleep.

They do see a difference in the morning, in the tracking.

They see that their REM improved.

They see that their HRV improved.

But if we just do things without the good intention and the positivity of the possibility

of the immense healing that can come from what we're doing, we're missing a really big

piece that really changes the game and accelerate the healing process.

Or you can think negative and just make stuff go bad.

Right.

You can.

You do.

I don't want to say you curse it from the start, but in simple terms, you do.

You know, and then you set yourself up for failure.

I see it all the time.

I used to do it too, you know, and I really try to never do that anymore and just think

everything's going to go great.

So well, I guess we flew through that.

But that was really, I think we touched on a lot of great things and hopefully talked

about some things you don't normally talk about so people can see more versatility

and what you do as well.

That's why I like these and we did.

Yeah.

I like to, I don't, I talk to people before, as you know, but it's only to build a little

relationship.

And I tell everybody the same thing.

People send me a script, send me this for that.

I say, well, great.

Thanks.

We don't use that shit.

Right here.

You go with the flow.

No, that's, that's how you have a successful episode with somebody because then it's a real

conversation.

So thank you for going back and forth with me.

Oh, Dylan, thank you so much and thank you for the work that you're doing, you know,

and you're bringing so much light and healing to the world and it's so needed and I appreciate

your generosity and and more than anything that you smile at people every day on your

walk.

That's so beautiful.

I make them do it.

Yeah.

Well, tell people how they can follow you.

You do a lot of speaking if there's ways to interact with you online and I'll link everything

in the description.

Yeah.

So the best place to find me is on my Instagram page.

I have everything there.

I've links there.

Actually, I will put where I'm speaking next to there and then people are always welcome

to DM me and I'm happy to answer any questions and help in any way that I can.

Awesome.

Well, thank you.

That was fun.

It helped me a little bit mentally too.

So thank you.

I appreciate it.

But I truly believe everybody will benefit from this in a variety of ways and I think it

will make people smile, laugh and reassess certain things going on in their life.

That's always the goal is to just sit back, reassess and go, okay, maybe we can fix

something somehow and take even the smallest bits and pieces.

That's all I care about.

That's beautiful.

Yeah.

We keep planting the little seeds that healing in the world.

That's it.

So thank you again.

I appreciate it.

And that wraps up another one, everybody.

So stay tuned for plenty more to come.

Dylan Jamelli.

Sign it off.