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What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode
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of the Epstein Chronicles.
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The DOJ and Pound Bondi had plenty of time
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to go through the Epstein files
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and redact the names of the survivors.
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And instead of doing that, what they did
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was redact the names of people
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that were allegedly involved
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with Jeffrey Epstein's bullshit,
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whether that's enabling it
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or being involved in the abuse itself.
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Those people had their names redacted,
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but the survivors, at least over 100 of them,
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their information was left out there
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for the whole world to see.
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And of course, that's led to a whole bunch of harassment
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for a lot of these women.
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And does it shocking?
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Considering people like Anna Paulino Luna,
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who have no idea what they're even talking about,
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start dropping grenades and calling these women,
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traffickers themselves,
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you have to be very clear with what you're saying.
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If you wanna say that certain women help Jeffrey Epstein,
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the answer is yes, they did.
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But if you're gonna try and act like these girls
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who were 14, 15, 16 years old
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and who were groomed
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and had this behavior normalized to them,
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are traffickers themselves?
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you have the president of the United States
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Yeah, you're gonna draw out the crazies.
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You're gonna draw out people
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who think that they're helping the president
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fight his hoax by harassing these women
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or calling these women traffickers or prostitutes
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and that whole narrative began
2:24
when Anna Paulino Luna started dropping grenades.
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So now the survivors have banded together
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and they're suing the Trump administration and Google
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over the release of their private information.
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And in this article from NBC,
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we're gonna dive a little bit deeper.
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Headlined, Epstein survivors
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sue Trump administration and Google
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over a release of private information.
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This article was authored by Chloe Atkins.
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A group of Epstein survivors filed a class action lawsuit
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against the Trump administration and Google on Thursday
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over the disclosure of personal information found
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in the release of the files related
3:05
to the late sex offender over the past several months.
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And I can already hear the counter to this.
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Oh, well, you wanted all this information out there.
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Now it's out there and you're suing people.
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Well, yeah, they didn't follow the law.
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You might want to add that part.
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You know, the part where the survivor names
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should have been redacted and hidden.
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That didn't really happen, did it?
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And with all the man hours and all the complaining
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we heard from Todd Blanche and the DOJ,
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you think that they'd be on top of it,
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but I guess this was just, you know,
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a coincidence as well, right?
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Just more negligence.
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The United States, acting through the DOJ,
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made a deliberate policy choice to prioritize
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a rapid, large volume disclosure over protection
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of Epstein survivor's privacy, the plaintiff said,
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adding that the Justice Department
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outed approximately 100 survivors
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of the convicted sexual predator,
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publishing their private information
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and identifying them to the world.
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And when I was going through the files,
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I saw a names from Florida that I had never seen before.
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Those names were kept under guard for years,
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almost impossible to get that information.
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Then all of a sudden, all those names are released.
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And remember a lot of those girls
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who are women now down in Florida,
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they didn't want anything to do with any of this.
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And while I think that it's good to get everything out
4:31
into the light, we can't force people to,
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you know, tell their story,
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we can't force people to relive trauma.
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And when you out people like this,
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that's what you're doing.
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Now they have to answer questions,
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their kids are going to talk to them,
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hey, mom, what the hell?
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And a lot of people are trying to avoid it.
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But the government, of course,
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they couldn't be bothered to do their job correctly
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and not only their job, but what the law requires.
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While the government later withdrew survivors,
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personal information from the publicly released files,
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the survivor said that online entities like Google
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continuously republish it,
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refusing victims, please, to take it down.
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Specifically, the plaintiff said
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their personal information continues to be displayed
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in search results and AI generated content.
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Unfortunately, once something gets on the internet,
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very difficult to get it off
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and unfortunately, once something's out there,
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All it takes is one person downloading it, right?
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Survivor is now faced with new trauma.
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Strangers call them, email them,
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threaten their physical safety,
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and accuse them of conspiring with Epstein
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when they are in reality,
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Epstein's victims, the complaint reads.
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And the marching orders, of course,
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come from Donald Trump.
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But I place the blame on Anna Paulina Luna
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and that Tweet she made a few weeks ago,
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calling these girls human traffickers,
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saying that some of the women that were at the hearing
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were human traffickers themselves.
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And it's telling, right?
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She's more mad about that
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than she is about Elaine Maxwell getting the homie hookup
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or the fact that she didn't show up
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to talk to the less Wexner
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or the fact that no investigation really ever happened
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in the beginning where Wexner or Indyke or Khan
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or anybody important was ever spoken to.
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But she's real mad about these women who were abused
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who became traffickers.
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She knew exactly what she was doing
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and she got the result she was looking for
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and everything about Anna Paulina Luna turns me off.
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She's an influencer,
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larping as a lawmaker and that shit is dangerous.
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The Justice Department and Google
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did not immediately respond or request for comment
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Yeah, well, I don't expect the DOJ to say a word.
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They're infallible here.
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They've never done anything wrong
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and every decision they've ever made
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is to make the survivor's life better.
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Isn't that what Todd Blanche told us?
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Todd Babybilly Blanche.
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The world's biggest dumb dumb.
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The truth is, this has never been about the survivors.
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It's about protecting Donald Trump
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and Donald Trump's friends.
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That's what it's all about.
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These fools don't care about the survivors.
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Hell, Pam Bondy won't even turn around
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and acknowledge their existence,
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but they care about the survivors, huh?
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Everything's based on the survivors.
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In a February second letter to judges Richard Burman
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and Paul Engelmeyer in the Southern District of New York,
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US Attorney Jake Layton said the justice department
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was in the process of removing documents
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that included victim identifying information.
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The department has worked all hours
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through the weekend from the point
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when the first victim related concerns were raised,
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the letter said, the department now was taken down
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several thousands of documents and the media
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that may have inadvertently included
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victim identifying information,
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due to various factors, including human or technical error.
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Oh, give me a break.
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You had all those lawyers looking at these documents
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and they can't do basic redactions,
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especially with AI out there now.
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You can't get it tuned up
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where you have it looking for keywords, names.
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None of it passes the sniff test.
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And what they're going to do is they're just going to keep
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doubling down on the great job that they did
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because they know nobody's here to hold them accountable.
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There's no oversight.
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Who's going to hold them accountable?
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James Comer, or how about Ron Wyden?
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Ron Wyden can't even hold his own kid accountable.
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Never mind holding anyone else accountable
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when it comes to Epstein.
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The letter added that the Justice Department
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was continuously evaluating its process
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and making further enhancements as necessary
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to address victims' concerns while complying
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with the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
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President Donald Trump signed that measure into law
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The Justice Department had made assurances
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that it would protect their survivor's privacy
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The plaintiffs are seeking minimum damages
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of $1,000 per survivor from the Justice Department
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and punitive damages in amounts sufficient
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to punish and deter Google.
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The group also asked the Court to order Google
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to immediately and permanently take down
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the survivor's personal information.
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And look, I'm sure Google can take some of it down,
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but once it's out there, like I was saying, it's out there.
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And people are going to do what they're going to do
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with it, unfortunately.
11:16
The survivors said that Google has the technological
11:19
capability to remove content and response to legal requests
11:22
about sensitive personal information.
11:25
Google's refusal to use such tools, in this case,
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shows its conduct is reckless in disregard
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for the well-being of plaintiff and other victims
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and willful the lawsuit says.
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Survivors have notified Google about the unlawful disclosure
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multiple times in February and March, the complaint says,
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adding that the content remains viewable on Google.
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So they're going to end up having to take that down.
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But, and here's the big but.
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It's still going to be there forever.
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You know the saying?
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The internet never forgets.
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The survivors said the Justice Department
12:02
has violated the Privacy Act of 1974
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by disclosing survivor's information without consent.
12:09
The plaintiffs also brought civil claims against Google
12:12
over violations of California's unfair competition law,
12:16
invasion of privacy, and negligent inflection
12:18
of emotional distress, as well as violation
12:22
of California civil code and targets doxing.
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No survivor of sexual abuse should have to live in fear
12:29
that a stranger can type their name into a search bar
12:32
and instantly find out about their worst trauma.
12:35
Yet that's exactly what happened here.
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Julie Erickson, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys,
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said in a statement on Thursday.
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The DOJ opened the door by unlawfully disclosing
12:47
victim identifying information and Google
12:49
is holding that door wide open.
12:51
Even after being warned about the damage that it's causing.
12:56
So look, I don't know if this is going to be successful,
12:59
but I think it's a good move on the part of the survivors.
13:04
It's a shot over the bell, right?
13:06
Look, you dudes better do the right thing
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or you can expect more lawsuits.
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Now, the question is, is that going
13:12
to be enough to deter the DOJ from playing their games?
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Well, I guess we're about to find out.
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