Erika Kirk Is Unburdened by What Has Been, Replaces Charlie Kirk at Dept. of Defense | Jason Whitlock Harmony

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I welcome to the Harmony Channel. I'm Jason Whitlock. Thank you for joining me.

I'll be joined today by Shemika Michelle.

We're going to discuss two topics.

President Donald Trump has appointed Erica Kirk to the,

let's say the Air Force Academy Advisory Board.

Say job with the Department of Defense.

She's replacing her late husband, Charlie Kirk.

He had the job previously.

I'm going to get myself in all kinds of trouble by just calling

feminism, whether it's conservative or liberal.

It all does the same thing. It diminishes.

It diminishes male patriarchal leadership and it puts women in positions

oftentimes where they absolutely do not belong.

I know I'm not supposed to say that I'm not supposed to

hold Erica Kirk to any sort of standard,

but I have to. She's the CEO of one of the most powerful political organizations

in America. She is being used and or positioned

as a replacement for Charlie Kirk and this is what Charlie would have wanted

is what we're being told. I'm not so sure.

And I'm not sure if I care about what Charlie Kirk would have wanted

and that is not said in a disrespectful way towards

Charlie Kirk. It's just like, hey man, what we want

and what's the right thing to do sometimes or at odds with each other.

And perhaps they are here running around pretending that Erica Kirk

or any woman can do the exact same thing as Charlie Kirk.

Just doesn't make sense to me. So we'll talk about that.

We should make a Michelle and we'll talk about a disturbing video

that I saw over X, a young black kid beating up a young white kid

who's just sitting there and taking the beating

while the young black kid is saying, don't you ever talk about my mother

and blah, blah. And it just gets to my overall point

about and within black culture, there is this

worship of mother that legalizes, hey, if you say something about my mama,

I have the right to beat you to within an inch of your life. I have a right to turn

violent. It's just a dumb, stupid,

standard. So, Shemika Michelle,

welcome into the show. Shemika, I'm

not a fan of Erica Kirk's expanding power and expanding role

as the replacement cut out for Charlie Kirk.

Look, I think this board meets three or four times a year.

I think there's 16 members on the board.

When I read this, I was like, what are we doing here?

What's President Trump doing here? What was your reaction?

Jason, I thought it was absolutely ridiculous. I think it's silly

unless she was always being positioned for power.

The only way I think this makes sense is if

that was actually her in the O CIA video, that was actually her at the meeting

at Fort White Chica. I think that's the only way it makes sense to me is if

maybe she did know Jeffrey Epstein. Maybe she did know Donald Trump before we

were told that she ever met him. Maybe what we've heard about her family

and their dealings is true. And so, that's the only way it makes sense to me.

I don't care if they only met once a year.

There's no way that a housewife who's raising two small children

is ready or should be in this type of position.

It's just absolutely ridiculous.

Or maybe Trump is smarter than I'm giving him credit for.

Maybe this is his way of saying, yeah, she has a little bit more of an inside

dealing than you all thought. I'm just starting to think this host

submissive, docile, sweet, Christian wife was just a fake.

And so people will hear that and people will see me and you talking about this.

They'll see the thumbnail, the show title, and just instantly go to

Candace Owens. And my thoughts have nothing to do with Candace Owens.

In terms of you watch this show, there's a certain style of male

patriotic leadership that I have been promoting on this show

for five years. Long before I ever knew even Erica Kirk existed.

Because for a long time, I knew Charlie Kirk was married or heard about

he was married. But I didn't know who his wife was, don't know anything about him.

Certainly wasn't thinking about Charlie Kirk getting assassinated.

And this opinion that I'm expressing, whether Candace Owens was doing her

podcast or not, I would be saying these things. It's

consistent with my values. The part of me is almost,

it's crossed my mind. I don't believe this. But it's just like,

is Candace Owens, this is not what I believe, but it just crossed my mind.

Because you get so paranoid, you're trying to figure things out, like what's

really going on here. But like, is Candace Owens doing her podcast

as a way of creating sympathy for Erica Kirk and helping to make her

more bulletproof towards criticism? Because I think many people

are basing their opinions as it relates to Erica, anything she does.

Well, I must defend it because I hate Candace Owens and I cannot

acknowledge that, hey, look, Candace may have said some things that I disagree

with. Candace may be too speculative. Candace's tone may not be right.

But man, Candace Owens is saying some interesting things that are

somewhat based in truth. But no one can say that because it's just like,

I have to choose sides. I hate Candace Owens and therefore I can't

evaluate anything that Erica Kirk's doing from an objective point of view.

I did see yesterday, Shamika, that Jenna Ellis, I don't know if you follow Jenna or

know her. But she even said, like, hey, man,

you know, I like Erica Kirk, but this makes no sense. Why is she hitting this job

at the Department of Defense? And so I just think like Candace inadvertently

is acting as a heat shield protecting Erica Kirk from legitimate scrutiny. Is that crazy?

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Yeah, I'm not seeing her act as a heat shield simply because I think I'm seeing so many people

saying, wait, something is just not right with this. And they've been saying it for a very long

time. And I think that without number or the people that I've been seeing calling Candace a demon

or, you know, I'm just seeing so many people saying, hey, wait a minute. And maybe some of them

are on the left, but TikTok has exploded with people just really questioning Erica Kirk's motives.

And so I don't know if she is providing some type of heat shield. I don't think it's working.

And I think this whole appointment just made people say, wait a minute, because I think even

Jenna was on the other side just a couple of days ago, where she felt like, oh, Erica should be

the CEO. Why are we questioning that? But I think this was a bridge too far for a lot of people.

And I'm like you, even if Candace hadn't said anything, ask someone who raised three children,

who even just trying to help my husband at the time with his business from the home. It was a lot.

And you're having to raise children, teach them the things that they need to know,

cook dinner, clean the house. It was a lot. And so I'm frustrated with conservatives who have just

tossed all their values out of the window because they like Erica Kirk. And we know that they're

full of hypocrisy. We watch them do the same thing with Nick Cannon and Elon Musk. Nick Cannon was

having all of these kids spread everywhere that you can't take care of. And you're going to be,

you know, a deadbeat dad. But when Elon has all of these children and he's not in the home,

all of a sudden it's fine. So I've watched them in a matter of six months go from women should be

traditional. Take your kids out of public school, homeschool your children. If you can, you should

be in the house to all of a sudden. I am seeing so many women just hop on the boss bay train. You know,

I've even seen some of them coming to you like him. Classic saying she can do both women,

even on the conservative side are really feminist, even though they pretend not to be. They think

that you can stand toe to toe with me and be in men's circles and only pull the woman cart when

it's convenient. And so it's been frustrating for me. I'm just like, y'all don't even believe

what you claim to believe because there's no way you could watch this woman go from taking care

of two small children. As you said, being unheard of, I had no idea who Charlie's wife was

took now the CEO and then this latest appointment. It's ridiculous. What do you say? And it's an

obvious response. But I'll throw you the softball and ask, what do you say to the people like,

hey man, she's got millions of dollars. She's got nannies. She's got all the help. She's got

grandparents. She's got her family. She's got his family that, you know, hey, they'll be just

fine. You know, this isn't a typical deal. She's got staffers that can help and look she has said

she takes the kids to the office. And you know, it's it. What do you say to those people?

You know, I think there are a lot of people who have that type of people, you know, that type of

help or village around whether it's a daycare worker or a grandmother or somebody at church

or a neighbor. It's still not her. I think the mother still needs to be there. And since she has

all of this money, since we know that people donated money for her well-being, that is all the

more reason to sit home. This whole idea that I now have to be the sole provider is some foolishness.

You don't have to get out here and work 40 hours a week because you need to eat or put a

roof over your children's head. Charlie had good life insurance. We already know that he left

her well. All people donated money. There is no need for her to be acting as if she's now the sole

provider and her children are going to go hungry or homeless if she's not out here working.

That's just silly. Most people with common sense didn't buy that. She was in a position to

sit at home and take some time to grieve and to help her children through this and she chose not to.

What do you say to the she's honoring Charlie's legacy and Trump is honoring Charlie's legacy?

There are people that I respect, Jack Pasobe. Pasobe. He put out a tweet yesterday defending this.

This is what Charlie should be able to see. The Charlie's vision is carried out. I just

I don't get it. But what do you say to those people that she's honoring his legacy?

They're hypocrites because Charlie's legacy is his children. As I think I've seen you state

and say his legacy is his children and there's no way this man would just switch up after sitting

across from her and even telling her the situation of her father being at a stay-at-home

dad for a short period of time was he said it was pretty much not the way it was supposed to be.

Now all of a sudden we're thinking this man would have changed simply because he was dead

that he didn't wouldn't want his wife actually at home taking care of the kids. I just don't buy it.

It shows how again conservatives are big hypocrites depending on who the person is. They will change

what they've claimed to believe for years and it's why you can't you just you can't buy anything

coming out of their mouths because they just aren't sincere. They will say anything for a dollar

and anything to be in the right spaces or the spaces they believe with the right people.

I don't think Charlie would want his wife working like a dog and having his children

dragged to the office. I don't think that this man from what I saw every time he said it the table

every time he spoke he seemed to be very consistent in his idea of what family was,

how families should look, how families should behave and this is inconsistent with what we knew

Charlie to be. The other place where my mind goes is me personally sports guy that has done a lot

of looking into Stephen A Smith's background and exposing like the fraudulent of Stephen A Smith

background and that's the part that really troubles me as I see a pattern here of people getting

placed in positions unqualified. I've seen people this is what's like analogous to me is like

I've seen people that think and know all the same things I know about Stephen A Smith like this

is a joke. This guy barely knows sports he's not good at this and they've installed him at the top

and I've seen people that believe this and know this that have gone stone silent on Stephen A Smith

he's 20 million dollars a year he works at ESPN he's being thrown out here is the face of sports media

while dabbling and spending just as much time talking politics there are people that know this is a

joke that never say anything and that's where I'm like I go back to cat Williams and that interview

with Shannon Sharp where he said man any of these people in high positions they're installed

and they have shady backgrounds and so I could like I don't know if you remember the cat Williams

but they're like hey man Steve Harvey and these guys have been stealing jokes and lying about their

history taking other people's history and saying it's theirs and I see this thing is all connected

holy cow if you get a position of influence and importance you've been installed

this is why I say it makes absolutely no sense unless this was always the plan unless she was always

going to be in some type of position of power it just doesn't make sense I would have thought

maybe if this hadn't happened this appointment hadn't happened maybe I was being a little harsh on her

maybe I could be a bit more empathetic after this happened I'm fully convinced that the woman that

we thought she was just wasn't real it was all an act it was all a show because how can we make

sense of this other than this is the way it was supposed to be I just don't think you go from being

a housewife to being a boss babe you see that even with me how I am not as assertive or aggressive

as I maybe could be or maybe other women would be in this position because that's just not who I am

so I just don't think you go from being this submissive stay at home take care of the children

take care of my husband to all of a sudden being a boss babe unless it's there unless that was your

intentions all along because that's the only way I can make sense of this I don't want to hear

she's honoring Charlie's legacy how if she's not prepared or have any experience in this role

it just doesn't make sense and the people sitting quiet just don't want to say that

because for the last six months they've told us oh this is a grieving widow and people grieve

differently and she's doing what Charlie wanted and a lot of them are going to have a hard time

saying hmm maybe I jumped the gun maybe some of the other things that have been floating out here

are true and I just didn't want to buy it because you put yourself in that situation and you know

you would be grieving you would just be wanting to honor your husband and do what he would want you

to do and so you are oblivious to someone thinking otherwise but I think a lot of people are going

to sit quiet simply because they know something isn't right but they jumped the gun way too early

and was very defensive and I hate Candice Owens but they see this just doesn't make sense there's

no way people can make a transition us into a different topic I want to play you this video of a

black kid brutalizing a white kid and it makes me think about worship of black mothers and all that

and just what are we doing to these young boys I'm going to play this clip I want you to respond

first because I'm going to the bathroom and I'll be right back I'm not playing too well I'm a

and the next time I ever hear you say something about my mom kill y'all like watch out

I'm talking about my mom

all right my bad girl no

don't ever talk about my mom again

all right I'm sorry that's my mom but you get it

I love my mom I'm all fucking mom bro

I'm worried

I swear

I hate my mom bro you want to play on me

the next time I ever say something I'm a bitch or f**king bad you get to

I'm going to bleed to death

go f**king f**king f**king

what's the f**king cap

go

this is absolutely disgusting to watch but this has been happening for a long time

I can remember being in great school and we would have this little thing

where you would put a pencil on your shoulder or something and say I bet you won't not my mom

off her bed you know just silly things and it's frustrating to watch these young kids

act this out because we don't even know what the little boy said he could have said I think

your mother is pretty and this little black boy just got all upset and offended because

this is his mother and I do think it comes from a situation of we just worship women so much

I just recently had this conversation where men are feeling like they need to apologize

even for saying positive things to women oh I'm so sorry I think you're very attractive

I apologize if this offended you we don't know what this little white boy said

but here we have this black boy taking any little bit of thing to justify violence

because this is what we're teaching kids in school white people are inherently evil no matter

what they say you have to take offense to it and this black boy is justifying violence because of that

it's tragic the video nearly brought me to tears just won the brutality of it and then thinking

how did we get here and I know exactly how we got here because things are talking about

we are teaching racism at home we're teaching it in the culture we're teaching it at church

because anytime you're hey I'm a victim I'm a victim I'm a victim of white supremacy anytime

that you're overriding message you're telling a person you have a right to exact revenge that

person owes you something anything they do to you is harmful and negative this is being taught in

the home in the culture in schools in the church everywhere and no one standing up against it

if we had seen this video and it was a white boy brutalizing a black child while white children

giggled and laughed President of the United States Obama Biden they would be speaking out

against this and saying there's a sickness and an evilness and there's a white supremacy that's

pervasive in America and the parents should be arrested and questioned how could they raise their

children to do this this is the kind of bigotry we must put a stop to but on this there's nothing

it's embarrassing I'll give you the final thought and we'll wrap the show you know I heard some years

ago a white lady say black people don't want to be equal they want to be masters now and they want

slaves and the more time goes on I'm starting to think they hate white people so much because of

their ancestors or because of history that they don't want to be equal because we are in fact equal

now there's no law saying that we aren't yet they're still so angry still so mad still want white

people to bend and beg and kiss their shoes we've seen all of these silly type videos because

they don't want to be equal they want to be in charge now and and it's clear.

Shemika thank you so much great job as always thank you guys for watching we'll see you next time

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