Esoteric Eddie | Zionism Explained, Baal, and Moloch and Goys Oh My!

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I think we can, because I think the world is big enough for that. And actually,

I believe the biggest conspiracy of them all is that there's nobody in control.

There's actually nobody in control of the world. And this is a concept that I've been working on as well.

Everybody's always like, who runs the world, right? You're looking at it.

You may say it's the Jews, whatever. But the truth is, nobody runs the world. Nobody actually

controls it. They want you to believe that everything's in control,

so that you feel safe, and happy, and both not your day. But the truth is, man, nobody's controlling

the ship. That's the scariest part. If we really knew that nobody's really in control, we will freak out.

You just heard today's guest, business owner and YouTube documentarian,

who joins me, Mystic Mark, here on the My Family, think some crazy podcast.

Thank you for turning in and enjoy this conversation with Esoteric Eddie.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the My Family, think some crazy podcast.

Turning to the show is a friend of mine, someone who makes documentaries that are available

across the web. You better be following him on Esoteric Eddie TV on YouTube. If you're following

me, I'm sure you're following him. He's back again, Esoteric Eddie. Welcome to the show.

How have you been, and what have you been up to?

The what up, man. Thanks for having me, and thanks to everybody for supporting all these years.

Glad to be back. Man, a lot has changed since I've been on here last. It's probably been like two

years since I've been on here. A father now, so that's the biggest thing that's changed for me,

and I've tried my best to keep Esoteric Eddie going with new documentaries and all that,

like the new one that I just dropped that we're going to talk about today. But yeah, man, you know,

just living life being a dad, making content, and being a blue-collar business owner,

just trying to make that expand and happen as well during these end times once again.

Yeah. Well, congratulations on being a dad and keeping it all together through all this madness.

Where do you want to begin with this? Because it seems like there is a theme to some of the

documentaries you put out. You have three or two parter that we're going to be talking about.

But you said before we started hearing that the Moolock documentary put out quite a while ago

connects to that. So where do we begin with this subject?

Yeah, man. Yeah, I wanted to give my rounds with the people and talk about this documentary,

because I think it's important, especially right now with everything that's happening with Israel,

Palestine, and America, Iran, and all this stuff. So I want to start with luck.

But before I do, I just want to say this documentary that I just released, called titled The Great

Noticing, I didn't want to release it just yet because I was working on making it longer and adding

some more parts to it. But for one, I was just as easy as a father to like really finish it out

the way I want. But also the world is just getting crazier and crazier every day. So I felt like,

you know what, like, let me just release what I have. As is, I don't know where things are going,

and it's like, I feel like we just need to wake people up to the truth about dynamic faith.

Like now is the time. It's crazy. Never before have we seen such an awakening to just how pervasive

how toxic pervasive these faiths have been, which is paradoxical for me to say because I believe

are in Christ, which we can get into later. But yeah, man, let's start with Moloch. So

and also this is a sound note too. I saw Sam Tripoli, the homey, the Danny Jones podcast,

and I've been on that podcast as well. And it's funny because Sam starts it off saying that there's

a war between the Molochians and the Luciferians. And I was sitting there listening to him and like,

look, yeah, you know, classic Sam, you know, it's dope. And it's fun to be conspiratorial. But

I was also kind of just like frustrated hearing that because I was like, man, I did a whole

documentary on Moloch. I did a whole documentary and book on Lucifer. Like I've tried to explain to

you guys the truth of these things. And so I also said necessary to come out here to talk to the

people to kind of rehash and re-educate, you know, what learned on these things so that we can all

as a community proceed with the information and a more accurate perspective on what's happening.

So with that being said, Moloch, everybody's talking about bail, ball,

Moloch because of the Epstein file. And we're all back to, you know, they're eating babies.

And look, are they sure? But what I do know about Moloch is that Moloch never existed in the way

that we perceive him or it. And just like Lucifer and the work that I did with Lucifer, the actual truth,

I think is even stranger and more, it's even crazier. So with Moloch, right, the main idea that

people have about Moloch is, okay, there is this D in the ancient past that the Canaanites,

who were the pre-Israelites, used to sacrifice their baby to and that that religion has

proceeded through time up until now and the elites that are running the world are still worshiping

Moloch. That's the prevailing conspiratorial idea. And a lot of us heard of Moloch in that way first

through Alex Jones and the work that he did with revealing the Bohemian. And the funny thing about

that is if you watched the video, the Bohemian growth video, Moloch not mentioned once. They never

mentioned Moloch in the Bohemian growth ritual. And the statue they're praying to is a John Owl,

which throughout the entire history of a block, not once has he ever been referred to as an owl.

You know, so Alex Jones was just being exaggeratives it. And that's kind of the contention I have

with the world in general, but specifically our community because we tend to exaggerate things

and run with and it just makes the truth harder. And it makes the challenge for people who want

another truth harder because there's exaggerating happening. You don't need to exaggerate. The world

is crazy as it is. I mean, fucking elites dress robes in the hillsides in the forest of

California chanting to a giant owl is crazy as it is. You know, we don't need to add to it. So

Moloch. Moloch never actually existed in the way we perceive him. I did a whole documentary. It's

on my channel. And I spent a lot of time on this one as well. What I found is that first,

the idea of Moloch comes from the Old Testament. Outside of the Old Testament,

outside the Old Testament, the name Moloch actually doesn't exist. The name Moloch is only found in

Old Testament. And the key word for Moloch is the word like most Hebrew words and the abbreviated word

is MLK. And just like most words in Hebrew, that word can mean many different things.

And that's how Hebrew works. There's no, I think it says no vowels or whatever in the language. So

everything's abbreviated. And then those abbreviated words can be used to denote different things.

So the word MLK, Moloch, can also refer to Malachai or what's another one? Moloch, Makai,

Milcom, Malek, a lot of different names, not a lot of different words. And they all have these

strange correlations. And what I found a research, and this is just me studying, the work that

other scholars have done throughout the 19th century, the 20th century, the first century,

is that word that was used to refer to Moloch was actually never meant to be taken as a deity.

The MLK that was used for Moloch in the Old Testament was never meant to refer to a deity,

but to refer to a type of sacrifice to a deity. So Moloch is not a deity, Moloch is a type of sacrifice,

a Moloch to offer a burning sacrifice to a deity. So, and this is me putting it simple as I can,

the documentary goes super deep to that. And the first person really realized this was a 20th

century scholar, German scholar, by the name of Otto Icefeldt. He wrote about this extensively,

the man knew his stuff. And so again, Moloch, the name Moloch is only found in the Old Testament,

and scholars agree now that the word Moloch is referred to a type of sacrifice to a deity.

Now, here's where it gets crazy. Were there rituals of child sacrifice in ancient times?

Yes. Were these people doing this in the name of Moloch, a god by the name of Moloch? No. Were they

sacrificing these children into fires to a horned bull or goat-like deity? Yes, they were.

But this is where it gets wild. Many ancient scholars, many ancient scholars wrote about this,

you know, in the BC times, after traveling the Old Levant area, which is like, you know,

at the Middle East of today. But they never said Moloch. They said all these different other

deities that, oh, these people over here are sacrificing children to this deity and that deity.

And I forgot to arrange off the top of my head. I made this documentary like two years ago.

But check this out. So what we have in ancient times is people sacrificing these bull-like figures.

Now, when we actually look at history academically and ask ourselves, okay, who in ancient times,

in the Middle East was worshipping bull-like deities, the Canaanites, Bolognians, the Assyrians,

the Sumerians, who were these bull-like deities that we still see remnants of today,

the Anunnaki. The Anunnaki are the only deities in that area represented as bulls.

To this day, we have the winged bull statues. Wow. Let me jump in real quick and,

yeah, let's, let's go video off just because the connection, at least on my end, is poor and I

rather audio really good instead of, you know what I'm saying. So I want to jump really quick because,

I mean, A, I really appreciate the clarification because you're absolutely right. There's so much

confusion and I think purposeful diversion going on with these subjects, information gets

murky and clouded by, you know, people A who don't know what they're talking about and then B

people who are purposefully adding disinformation into the conversation. But it's interesting.

You mentioned the bulls because just this week, I took a drive over to a property that through the

Epstein emails was identified as one of Jeffrey Epstein's farmhouses. It just so happens to be

not so far away from me here in Connecticut. Hey, Trove Bayon took some photos and on the barn door

closest to the road is a very detailed painting of two black bulls. So yeah, this is just, you know,

ringing a bell for me when you start talking about, yeah, he's actually associated with the bull,

Jeffrey Epstein's inviting John Brockman to his farm, which has bulls painted on it. So there

are at least some of the barns. So yeah, I mean, not strange. I have a bull painting, but still with

everything else. It's like, hmm. Yeah, no, definitely no symbolism. It all connects.

So yeah, I just wanted to get that out of the way. So MoLock was never a deity. It was a type of

sacrifice. And it's funny because any further than that in the documentary that I made, I also

speculate that, okay, so if we know it's a type of sacrifice, which involves child sacrifice,

particularly through fire to a bull deity. And we look at ancient times, many of ancient

societies were performing MoLock sacrifices to Anunnaki type gods. And guess who also was a deity

slide represented as a bull who also asked for child sacrifice? Well, none other than Yahweh, the God

of the Old Testament. Matter of fact, he was, I mean, the whole story of the Bible is what? God

gave his one and only begotten son. God sacrifices one and only begotten son. God himself

committed a MoLock. That's the whole story of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a child sacrifice.

He's the son of God being sacrificed to yet again, the bull heaven. Yahweh is referred to as the

bull of heaven many times. He's the bull, the bull, and the mythology of Yahweh is from El,

the Canaanite El, who's always also known as the bull of heaven, all these bull symbolism. So

it's all this strange mixture of what was happened ancient times involving

bull deities and child sacrifice. And the modern Jewish religion comes from all of that.

That's the whole story of Exodus. That's the whole point of Moses leading the people

was to get them to stop doing this. God was like, yo, can you get my people to stop doing this?

And he's trying to get them to stop sacrificing children to the gods who were the Anunnaki.

That's the whole story in actual history. Yeah. So when we see what was it a couple weeks ago,

footage from Iran, where there's a statue of what looks like some kind of

deity being referred to as Baal with a bull head. What's the confusion there? If that video is

in fact even real, I don't know. But what are your thoughts on that? Because I think in the

average person saw that now they're going to think, well, Baal, that makes sense. So where's

the confusion there? So Baal is a younger deity pertaining to the Canaanite pantheon.

And a common theme in all of my work is that humans like to graduate and also lump concepts and

ideas together to simplify them. So the statue that they're using at video you're referring to

is a statue that normally would represent Mo'lok in the biblical sense of it. But Mo'lok and Baal

are two different people in ancient times. Because again, Mo'lok actually never existed. So Baal is

just another one of these canaanite deities who gets lumped up into the Mo'lok idea and concept.

But Baal is actually a lesser god. He's a younger deity pertaining to the Canaanite mythology.

And so this stuff, we're talking about thousands of years. Thousands of years have passed down

mythology and religion. So now it's like, we can just amplify it all. It's all Mo'lok. It's all

Israel. It's all the Jews or whatever. You know, you see Iran having the contention they have with

Israel. They're going to definitely portray that aggression. They're throwing a dig at them.

You know, they're throwing a dig at them saying, hey, we know your past. We know your history. We

know who you guys really are. Your own Bible says that you guys were child sacrifices. That was

the whole story of the early Israelites. So that's the way I see it. You know, when I see the world

doing these things, I'm just like, well, it's just another case of humans being what's the

dramatic and exaggerated. And but there's truth to it. Because here we are in the 21st century

with Israel still bombing and killing children. Nothing new.

Yeah, it's it's disgusting, horrendous. You see what's going on. And you know, all of this in light

of what we're continuing to find out about Epstein and his network, the blackmail operation to

what end it stretches. I mean, it seems very likely that all the way up to our president,

you know, there are several, if not dozens of people who are in the pocket of this blackmail scheme.

And I'm certain you think that's the most likely reason why we're just doing everything.

Israel wants us to do as it pertains to this war in Iran, right? I mean, does that feel accurate to

you? Yeah, I can agree to that. Definitely, man, you know, seeing these things like online where it's

like the two of the greatest men in eyeball were defeated by lust. You know, it's like, it's true,

man, you know, and actually, I love the Bible, which is weird. You know, I love the Old Testament and

the New Testament because to me, it's one of the greatest human pieces of existential literature.

I don't view it as like a little text. I view it as one of the greatest human pieces of existential

literature because it is such a great job of encapsulating what it to be a human and try to

change our animalistic behaviors towards a higher purpose. And humans have never changed,

we've never changed. We think that we've changed because we have technology and all these

different options and entertainment, but we're still the same people we've always been guided by our

animalistic behaviors. And so of course, of course, these people are bought out and blackmailed by

sex, by sex and lust. Easiest is the easiest way to get it, you know, so yeah, man, I could definitely

see that being the case. Well, and human nature provides this, you know,

valibility that evil people take advantage of, but it seems like this is systematic. Like,

this is, it goes beyond just people who take advantage of systems for their own greed and

you know, become corrupted by it. It's like the system is corrupt from the core and anyone who

becomes a part of it just gets programmed to to be that way. I mean, how far back does this

kind of thing go? Like you're talking about the Bible is this great existential body of work.

I don't feel like I can, you know, stand to disagree or agree with that, but I definitely

am wondering, you know, where that thought is paired with, you know, what we're about to talk

about, which is like Zionism. Where do you see Zionism within the Abrahamic religions?

Is it like a cultish offshoot, a corruption itself? Like how does the Abrahamic religion,

you know, give way to this, I mean, essentially, you know, psychopathic group of people

that believe in, you know, war to justify the ends of their, their prophecy, right? I mean,

this is kind of the gist of it going, you know, short way around it, but yeah, expand on that.

What do you think about how that fits in? Yeah, man, definitely.

Yeah, I mean, we're talking about basically the entirety of the modern history of human

kind here, you know, it's like, the way I've world is like, we have like three epics of time.

We have, I guess what you could say, the pre-Abrahamic time or the time of the monarchy worship,

and then you have the intern where the Abrahamic faith for being created,

and then after that, we have the effects, which is basically a perpetual end times.

And that's really what it is, which is crazy when you say about it, like our entire world today

is centered around the Abrahamic faiths, one way or another. There's no escaping it.

And it's wild for me to think that it all, it all trickles back through the pre-Abraham time

of the monarchy. And so the way I view it is originally when humans gained consciousness,

however we did, whether through psychedelics or a spiritual download or just evolution,

whatever happened, that moment caused us to then become these civilized beast who are now out for

power and control. And that transition is where the first moons and governments spring forth,

is worse, but they spring forth. And the first religions, as we can tell from history and

anthropology, were just religions that involve nature. All the early religions were basically

panistic. They were worshipping nature, you know, the sky, the wind, the trees, thunder, or rain.

So the Indo-Aryan religions of the very prehistoric times were actually the precursors for what would

become the Anunnaki religions. And this is deeply studying, you know, all the early buds,

whether it was the Canaanites, and then later the Greeks, were actually just more

exaggerated versions of the early paganistic religions, right? Like the early religious worship

to thundering, rain. And that became, but all, and L, and then Zeus, and then all the other ones,

right? So it was just a trend, we've just been going through a slow transition and evolution

of those early prehistoric concepts into these more and more marvel, comic-like details that we've

been adding on and adding on and adding on. But really behind that is the real reality of humans

trying to live amongst each other and gain power and control. And in the midst that we have

people in elite positions who actually believe in the religions, and then others who don't believe

in it at all, I think it's silly, but use it to further their power and control. And so as I've

spoken on before through my previous work, the Jewish religion, the Judaism was actually formulated

as a means of control. And the Bible tells us this, the Bible says this itself, and this is

corroborated historically. So in history, the early Jews, the early Israelites were subjugated by

the Assyrians and the Babylonians, and then the Persians through Cyrus the Great came and took

down the Babylonians and then freed the Jews. This is real history we're talking about here.

That's why he's known as Cyrus the Great. He freed the Jews and gave them autonomy.

But his elite people told the Jewish elites at that time to go back to their land and give their

people a new decree, a new law, which should be in accordance with the greater Persian kingdom.

And that new law, that new decree was the Torah, was what would become the Old Testament and the

new Jewish religion of Judaism. But the reason they did it is because the Jewish elite at that time

understood if they could not center their people, centralize their people and centralize their power

through a means of a centralized religion, they would fade into oblivion. Because the reason they

were failing as the Bible also states is because they were worshipping all these different gods,

they were polytheistic, they were stuck in this frantic, erratic state of the prehistoric times

of worshipping all these different gods. So they said let us centralize our people into one

God, one government, and so that we can be fortified as a nation. And so that concept started to

take hold. And so we have the transition from the Anunnaki epic into the Abrahamic epic where the

world started to centralize for the first time through the means of religion. And so this is

the onset of the one world government concept. And so we were, when that happened, once the Abrahamic

faith started to centralize, it was written literally in their Bibles, but also written in the

psychology of human nature that we were going to clash eventually, which brings us into the third

epic, which we are in now, the perpetual end times. There is no escaping it. So Zionism was

destined to happen. And is it a nefarious, deliberate conspiracy? Yeah, literally by definition,

but is it more so just human nature trying to find a way to not fade into oblivion? Yes,

it's more so that my perspective. So we have no way of escaping this because of the way humanity

has evolved through the prehistoric religions, Anunnaki religions, Abrahamic religions. Now we've

screwed ourselves into a corner where we have no choice but to face the end times. So it's less of

a deliberate conspiracy for me and more so of erratic human behavior that is causing us to

paint each other against each other for power and control, which is going to lead us to just

absolute destruction. Right, right. And this is something that should distress most of us whether

we're religious or otherwise, but it doesn't seem like you can, you can pin it on just Zionism.

There's Christian Zionists. There's Judexionists. I'm sure there's other variations of cults

who believe in this end times belief. This sort of apocalyptic ideology is not limited to just the

Abrahamic religion. So do you think there's some sort of, you know, correlation there, something

that goes beyond just one religion like this sort of impending sense of doom or just humanity's

urge to want to live forever or extend itself into the future as much as possible?

Yeah, man. Great point. In the documentary, I kind of cover that as well. You know, the greatest

supporters of Zionism are Christians. You know, most of the money that gets poured into the modern

Zion Zionistic movement comes from Christians, American Christians. And so we are the ones

fueling this more than any other religion. And they're being played, you know, they're being played

because it's funny because they're funding a religion that doesn't even acknowledge their

religion. You know, when you look at what the Jewish elite are saying, the actual rabbinical Jewish

elite, they don't acknowledge Christianity as a true religion. And even further than that,

they'd detest Jesus Christ. And in worst cases, straight up, disrespect and mock him in the

grossest of ways. So it's funny. I'm really sad to see Christians fueling the Jewish Zionistic

movement to rebuild the third temple and take over the dome of the rock and that whole area known

as greater Israel. Because once they do, the Jews aren't waiting for Jesus to come back. They're

not waiting for that Messiah to come back. They're waiting for their political Messiah to rise up

and take over the known world. That's what they want. So again, we just have all of this confusion

and craziness going on. And it's like, it doesn't even have to be this way. It doesn't have to be

this way. But we've pinned ourselves into this corner. And honestly, sometimes I ask myself like,

how much longer can this slash? You know, like, how long are we going to be able to live in this

tension between Islam's Judaism and Christianity? At one point, this is all going to have to collapse.

You know, it's like the economy. Everybody's like, the economy's going to collapse. The economy's

going to collapse. But every year, we just barely miss the economy collapse. And because one or

two legs hold us up. It's the same thing. It's like, how much longer are we going to be able to live

in a world where these three religions are contending for supremacy? They want each other's

heads. And what's funny is in the conspiratorial space, we say, or not even the conspiratorial

space, in the actual Messianic Christian space, we say that in the end times, there's going to be

that war to end the wars. And then the world's going to come together with the one world of

religion. And there's going to be a false time of peace. So there's that weird aspect of it too,

which sucks because as a humanist, you can't advocate for peace because the Abrahamic

faith will shoot that down. They'll say, oh, look, he's of the anti-Christ. He's a part of the

end times. He's advocating for peace. He wants to eradicate the Abrahamic faith. So bring in the

one world religion and government and say, fuck, dude, there's no way out of it. So

to answer your question, yeah, it's not just the Jewish Zionist. It's also the Christian Zionist,

but it's also the fundamentalist Islamic people as well who are waiting for the Dejal, which is

their version of the anti-Christ. One and sane human beings who I think, you know, anyone with

a sane perspective on the world is anti-war in the sense that they're opposed to the types of

wars that have gone on. For the past, I would say a couple centuries, the sort of capitalist wars where

people are killed for financial, monetary gain for political influence, you know, anyone who's

sane would see that that is wrong. Yet we have millions of people who are willing to support

these sorts of ventures because there's a religious sentiment behind it, right? So when I hear

that, it just makes me think like, you know, how deeply ingrained is the military into religion?

And I mean, the whole idea of what it is to be a missionary. I don't know if you've looked into

that much, but recently I've been going into that subject in particular because it seems like

this is the beginnings of espionage or what we would consider like the CIA and all that, right?

I mean, you've done a documentary on the Jesuits and you've looked into that kind of stuff before,

right? Yeah. Yeah, man. So I just lost my thought, but you were saying,

um, this sort of religious military connection. Oh, yeah. You know, there's like this, uh,

you know, as you're saying, it's hard to be my war, even because people will

of bringing, wanting to bring on the anti-Christ. Yes, yes. Okay, I remember what I was going to say now.

So, um, two things in the documentary, I do cover that a little bit about how even today,

apparently some American soldiers are being told by their sergeants that we are preparing for the

end times and like this Armageddon showdown and which is just absolutely bonkers. And then, uh,

we have literally Jewish rabbinical elite claiming that Donald Trump is their Messiah.

But this is a concept that most people would probably misunderstand. The Jewish idea of the Messiah

is not the same. It's not similar to the Christian idea. The Christian idea is like,

our Messiah is the one true guy who like rules the universe and will save all people.

That's not the Jewish idea of a Messiah. And I think if we understood their idea, we would

understand what's going on right now much more. The Jewish idea of a Messiah is a political leader,

a worldly leader who is supposed to rise up and guide their people. But they don't believe in

one Messiah. They believe Messiah's come through different ages. Every age has a Messiah. So,

for them to say Donald Trump is the Messiah. They're not saying like, he's Jesus, he's God. He's

here to save the world. They're just saying in this particular time, he is a Messiah who will leave

them further into what they are trying to achieve, which is the rebuilding of the third temple and

taking over of greater Israel. So that may be later on, the greatest Messiah will come about. The

greatest leader they've ever had. So that's one thing. Yeah, there's definitely a lot of this

stuff baked into military and politics, which is nuts. And then to get gnostic with it, and this

isn't part, this isn't really in my documentary, but it's in some of my other work. But to get

gnostic with it, right? It's like, this is where we get, everything gets so philosophically

benadeable. It's like, we're trying to stop the war from happening. We're trying to stop humanity

from suffering, but a gnostic could argue that that is the way of the world. The world is destined

to suffer. The world is destined to be ruined because it deserves to be ruined. A gnostic,

it even, you can even loosely interpret Jesus' teachings in that way, right? Be in this world,

but not of this world. It's like, why should we save the world? Why would we want to save the

world? The world is material. The world is suffering. The world is full of ill and sillment and sickness

and sin. So for us to try and save the world, let's save the world, that could also be interpreted

as materialistic and archonic in itself. So a gnostic is almost an eyeless who would say,

there's nothing to save. Let it all perish. Let the war happen. Let the Messiah come so we can all

die. So this entire simulation can finally end and we can return back to source. That would be

the gnostic point of view, which sometimes makes sense, but it's also a hard perspective to argue

because it's baked into the messianic end times. A lot of these messianic people actually are

gnostic in that sense. They believe the world is not worth saving.

I've thought of that. I feel like it's a little, and again, who am I to say, but it's a little

short-sighted or selfish to say, all right, well, school earth closes with me. I'm the last

graduating class. It's like, yeah, I agree. The religions tell us we're here to suffer,

and I think that's spiritual growth really is what that means. So to say that the growing

is ceased is to say that things are dead, right? If a school closes, nobody's learning anymore.

Not that schools are anything but indoctrination in most cases, but for analogies,

sake, it seems like school earth. That suffering is baked in to strengthen and grow us on that

immaterial level. Not everyone's human experience is equal, and some people unfortunately suffer

greater evils than others, but yeah, I wonder to what end that that is not our choice to make

as human beings. And the funny thing is, again, like I said in the beginning, I'm a believer in

Christ, and most days I don't even know what that means because of all the work that I do,

but it's just, it's my default religion. It's what I grew up on. It's what makes me feel good,

you know, whatever. But as a Christian, it's funny to see people like, again, trying to

bring about peace or whatever because it's like, well, if you're truly a Christian, you'd understand

that the end time is supposed to happen. Not that I'm for it, like I think it's ridiculous, but

I'm just saying, like, there's nothing to worry about, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm sad

and upset, but I'm not worried, you know, like I see a lot of people like, they're like,

well, worried, like, oh my God, you know, the world's going to end or whatever. I'm like, well, I mean,

okay, if it ends, then doesn't that mean you're going to meet your God and go to heaven, you know?

So it's like, there's, there's, if you really, really believe in God and really believe in the

Abraham faiths, then you don't have to worry. The world is doing what it's supposed to do.

You know, politicians are lying. That's, that's what they're supposed to do. Governments

are causing human suffering. That's what they're supposed to do. Everything is doing what

it's supposed to do, which will eventually lead to the moment where humanity either come

together, or we have a, the Jesus moment where we all realize, hey, this isn't working. So let's

change the way we're doing this. I mean, either one is going to have to happen or sort of mixture

of the two where one side of the world will continue into this technocratic one-world government

while there will be an offshoot of us who kind of just live on the fringes, you know, with farm life

and stuff like that, if we can escape, which I think we can because I think the world is big enough

for that. And actually, I believe the biggest conspiracy of them all is that there's nobody in control.

There's actually nobody in control of the world. And this is a concept that I've been working on as

well. Everybody's always like, who runs the world, right? The Illuminati, the Freemasons, the Jews,

whatever. But the truth is nobody runs the world. Nobody actually controls it. They want you to

believe that everything's in control so that you feel safe and happy and go about your day.

But the truth is, man, nobody's controlling this shit. That's the scariest part. If we really knew

that nobody's really in control, we would freak out. You know, it's, I'm a blue collar guy. You're

a blue collar guy. You know, I go out there into the real world and I have to help build houses

and stuff like that. I go into commercial buildings and have to fix things. And when you get out there

in the real world as a blue collar man and have to actually fix the things that make

everyday life operate, you realize, shit, man, nobody really knows what they're doing out here.

You know, I'm a college dropout. I'm a stoner college dropout who now runs a plumbing company

and like helps build houses and commercial buildings operate. And it's just like, what? Like,

I'm the guy that you're calling. You know, it's like, it's the same on the macro level. Like,

look, Donald Trump's the president of the United States. Like, nobody's really in control. We're all

just kind of just floating along, getting into positions and, and playing our parts. But,

yeah, man, it's just like, we are choosing to go down this path. We're choosing to go down this

Abrahamic end times path. It doesn't have to be that way, but it's most likely going to be that way.

And again, if what I wanted to say with that is one of my friends recently, he's really depressed

about everything that's going on. He really honestly believes that this is the end of the world.

Listen, these are the end times. And I'm like, dude, it's not, it's not because

when you realize what the politicians are after, what these corporations are after, you know,

it's not the end time because they're still trying to build their investment portfolios. They're

still trying to beef up their companies. They're still trying to buy land. Why? Because they plan

on living longer, they plan on living longer and, and, and expanding their, their power. They're

just want us to, they want us to believe that it's the end time so that we sell and do this and

that and frantic buy and all these things. But no, it's all just a game. Nobody knows what's really

going on. Nobody knows if it's the end. Nobody really wants it to be the end either. Israel

doesn't want to end the world. Iran doesn't want to end the world. America doesn't want to end the

world. You know why? Because beyond behind all the politics and all that are humans with families

who just want to have a good time with their families and, and all those kind of things, or do

their weird sicko, Epstein stuff on their islands, you know, like nobody wants this shit to end. We want

our opposition to end. For sure, we want our opposition to end, but we don't want the world to end.

So don't be afraid. Nobody's actually in control. They're, they want you to believe that

somebody's in control, that nobody really is in control. They might be in control of certain parts

of the world, but the world is too big to control. The world is too big to control.

Okay, I live in the country and I drive through the country every day. And I think to myself,

if there was a one-world government takeover, there's no way that could happen. There's no way

there could ever be a truly one-world government takeover because the world's too big. You know,

there's there's a bunch of land out there. You're not going to be able to get everybody,

but that's why they want to shuttle in people into like major cities and create these smart cities

so that they can control most of the people. But there's always going to exist a fringe

population of people. And that's the society we need to focus on if we can't change the majority of it.

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I'm with you there 100% when you step out into the real world. There is freedom.

These religious extremists, they need your consent, these politicians and government agencies

ultimately need our consent to do the things that they do. And I think yeah, part of the reason

that you're able to get away with it is because somewhere along the way it occurs to them that like,

yeah, no one, no one's in charge. Let's just do what we we will. I mean,

from a Christian perspective, I would argue that God's in charge, right? I mean, I believe in God,

not necessarily from a Christian perspective, but there are, there is some sort of oversight

in the sense that like you can't just do whatever you want without consequences. There's karma,

there's hopefully retribution in the afterlife for the kind of evils that are occurring on the

world. And yeah, I mean, when you see these kind of wars take place, you know, I do understand where

the profiteers, you know, it's just another day at work for them, but these religious extremists,

I mean, if they truly believe what we were discussing earlier, then it's not as simple as, oh,

well, you know, the world will just go on as it, as it will. I mean, these people have psychopathic

ideologies that make them, you know, okay with massive destruction and death. So like, to one

extent, I do agree with you, but in the other extent, I'm curious how you're holding those two

seemingly different things at once. Definitely man. And it's tough. And yeah, when I say no one's

in control, I agree with you. I do believe that God is ultimately in control, but I mean like, nobody

down here on the civilian level is really in control. It's like we're all, it seems like everybody

gets up in the morning and just like goes to like do their work begrudgingly, like it doesn't matter

if you're the janitor or you're the president of the United States, it seems like everybody's just

gets up and like begrudgingly does their work just so that they can get back home and do the

ship they really want to do. Like that's what everybody's experiencing every single day. So like,

we're just all kind of coming into the system and then we go back home. And so this control

that we perceive is really just a cooperation of everybody stepping in to do their little part

for the day and then go back home. But it's those in between times of going back home where the

world just sits quiet. Like, you know, when the McDonald's is closed, you know, or when the

government is closed, it's like those in turn times where we really see like, oh wait, like this

is all just an illusion. Like there's, there's no system. It's just a cooperation of all of us

just like playing the game and like helping us all operate and run together. But to answer your

question, how do I hold those two truths? Man, it's challenging. It's challenging. And that's why I've

kind of become an individualist and an existentialist where like, to be honest, I just don't really

pay attention to the craziness that's happening in the world. Well, actually, that's not true. I do

pay attention to what's happening, but I don't let it affect me. I just plan to live, you know, I don't

plan to die. I don't plan for the world to end. I actually plan to live a long life. I plan for

the world to continue on after me. And I live that way, you know, I'm putting, I'm saving money

for my for my son and for his future. I'm building businesses to help other people. And hopefully my

businesses will continue. You know, I'm planning for my life and my efforts to continue on after me.

So that's what I do. I don't stress on the world. I don't stress on what's happening. I just live

my life. I keep it chill. And I'm not so, so centered to think that when I die, everything's

going to die with me. I believe in the human spirit. And I believe after me, the human spirit will

live on for many, many more generations. I just feel sad for the generation that one day will have

to confront that war to end all wars or whatever it's going to be when the Abrahamic faith will

have to collide because they will have to collide. But that moment will decide everything.

That moment will decide everything. Are we done with this shit? Are we done believing in these

fairy tales? Or are we going to continue fighting over these things? Yeah, well said.

Different note, but maybe not entirely unrelated. You know, we have people like Jeffrey Epstein

seemingly putting a lot of money, investing a lot of influence into certain fields of science

that could be used possibly to extend a human life. Have you looked into any of this? Have you

looked into what has come out since we got all these emails and certain documents?

What are your thoughts on Epstein in general? Yeah, good question. The extending life stuff is

funny. I always laugh at that because it's just like it's the oldest lie. You know, they say that

the serpent in the garden of Eden told the three lies that still exist today. You will live forever,

you will know everything and you will be like gods. Those are the three lies that the serpent told

Adam and Eve and those three lies still persist to this day. We need to stop trying to live forever.

You know, like we're just like these like botched Hollywood people who just like pumped

themselves with like Botox or like crazy facial surgery. It's like, bro, just let it rest, you know,

like we don't need to live forever. You know, and actually, I would love to be so old one day

that I just want to die. That's my wish. But of course, these people are always trying to live,

man, because they can't have enough. They can't have enough of the juice that is the material world.

They just want more and more of it. They can't get enough. But the Epstein files, man, it's a trip.

I actually spent a little time digging into the library myself of the files. I wanted to hit

at a different angle. I was like, okay, we know a lot about the babies and the children and that

stuff is really sad and sickening. But I wanted to just poke around in there and see if I could find

anything else. It's just kind of like random but useful. And what I have covered through a series of

emails is that he had some sort of eating disorder. And he was trying to find holistic ways of

healing that through psychedelics and Kundalini yoga. And also he was heavily interested in

tantric yoga. And he was like trying to convince his friends to get into Kundalini and tantric yoga.

Interesting. Yeah, I mean, it's not really surprising considering he was seemingly obsessed with

sex. So yeah, maybe he would want to explore that. I thought there was something else about,

like the Kabbalah too related to tantra, something along those lines.

Yeah, it's all interconnected. Again, it's like it's all humans coming up

coming to the same conclusion. It's like we all have bodies. Every religion is comprised of

humans who have the same body. So it's like, yeah, of course, the Kabbalists are going to come up

come to a point where they realize you can reach altered states of consciousness,

consciousness through meditation and stuff like that. The same way the Hindus realize that at one

point in the same way. You know, we're all just coming to the same conclusions and putting our

own spin on it. So there is a form of Kundalini in Kabbalah. But Kundalini, the word and the concept

is an eastern thing coming from Hinduism. But again, there are just different names and perspectives

for the same thing. And ultimately, it all just sums up into the new age movement, which has been

going on basically since the 60s and 70s, where there's a mass awakening and mass realization

that, you know, we are more than our bodies and that we can actually tap into our bodies and use

them for these altered states of consciousness, which the elites have probably known for many years.

And it's definitely a part of what they do during their rituals, I would imagine. You know,

sit around and either take psychedelics or go into flow states using Kundalini or Tantra.

Right. And you think if this kind of information comes out, people might start to think poorly of

those sorts of pursuits or associate those sorts of things, new age ideas with, you know, evil endeavors.

Yeah, definitely. I think there will definitely be a sector of religious people

who will see that as like demonic. I mean, there already is, you know, if you're in the Christian

spaces, you know, Messianne Christians will already tell you that meditation is evil. You know,

any form of eastern thought is evil because you're opening yourself up to demons and stuff like that.

And I think there's some truth to that because there's a reason why Kundalini psychosis is

a real thing. I don't know if you know about this, but there's a whole, a whole

field of study within Kundalini having to do with Kundalini psychosis. It's a part of the journey,

even in the Eastern religions, when you open up your Kundalini Shakti, it can be dangerous and it

can throw you into this erratic state where some people never come back from. And it's a

form of psychosis. So yeah, man, that stuff can be dangerous. And actually, I made a little

Instagram reel about this recently stating that I think these things exist in nature

to be autonomic, right? Like our breathing is autonomic, our heart rate is autonomic,

and our healing is autonomic. You know, when you cut yourself, you don't really have to do

much. Your body will heal. So I think God placed Kundalini in our body to be autonomic. I don't

think you really intended for us to play with it and manipulate it. I think it's just supposed to

do its own thing on a minuscule level. When our body needs it, you know, for example, when we die,

D&T rushes in, or maybe when we're like really sick, you know, the cerebral spinal fluid will

maybe kick in and help some of the healing process. You know, I think all those spiritual things

are good, but they're meant to be autonomic. They're not really meant for us to tap in and play with.

But once humans realize that we could play with it and we could manipulate it, manipulate it,

that's when we started putting ourselves in harm's way with psychosis.

Yeah. Yeah. I can see that as a really rational and reasonable way to look at it. I mean,

not that I'm not interested in the new age topics, but I have come across certain people,

not necessarily people I've interviewed on the show, but people who are advocating for these

kind of things, and they don't seem mentally well. They seem like compensating for something,

maybe burying whatever trauma underneath this kind of new age stuff. So, yeah, again, not necessarily

a comment on anyone I've interviewed on the show, but when we talk about these new age topics,

you know, putting something like the Kundalini awakening in that perspective that this isn't like

because you know, when things become taboo, the person who's learning about it not only are they

kind of hit with this rush of discovery, but also they're kind of given the sense like,

oh, well, this thing is prohibited for wrong reasons. So therefore, I should just have as much

of it as possible. You know, I mean, I kind of feel like that's my, what my teenage self said about

cannabis because I, you know, I think on the same age, but like it was completely illegal when I was

in high school. So when I tried it and felt like, oh, this stuff's great, I was like, well,

there's no way, you know, you're going to tell me any amount of it is bad for me because I already

don't believe you that you're telling me a little bit of it is bad for me, right? So the same logic might

follow. Yeah, that's funny. You said that, dude, I feel the same way. Like I've never, and I said this

in the same real, I never met a guru that I've wanted to emulate. You know, I've never met a

hippie or something that and went like, oh, wow, I would like to be like them. I would like to live

like them. Right. They're cool people, man, you know what I mean? And this stuff is cool. Like,

it's cool, but you're right. Like a lot of it is, is like hurt and damaged people,

cleaning it onto something that gives them a sense of hope and identity and, and uh,

pompousness, too. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of pompousness in that community because,

yeah, because they feel like, oh, they've, they've mastered something and they've reached a certain

level of awareness and being that most humans can't master. It's like, dude, okay, you, you,

you breathe in and out for 30 seconds. Cool dog. Like I can do that, too. You know, like, it's just

funny to see the pompousness in all of it. Yeah, it, you know, and that should be assigned to anyone

curious to learn, you know, if you have these sort of, um, cultish, uh, behaviors coming from someone

who not only, you know, might be charging you money, but also, you know, wants something from you

down the road. You should be very cautious of, you know, those sorts of signs because, yeah,

a lot of times it's a, it's a way of people to inflate their ego. You know, I, I think part of

that happened to me when I got into this stuff. You know, I, yeah, I, in mighty, like, oh, I found

something different. I know I have a perspective, you know, during the pandemic, a lot of people

were podcasting with that same sort of attitude of like, well, we knew this stuff was bad years

ago. And now everybody's falling for it, you know, this sort of, you know, um, I don't know,

I'm not proud of it, but it definitely felt like I was jaded to some degree, uh, as the world

who needed not necessarily my fault. But yeah, the truth will do that to you. Um, but it is

interesting. You know, when, when we look at Epstein to get back to his interests, maybe you saw

the same thing I did that this like book posts that he had somewhere along the way. I don't

remember exactly what context he had a list of books. Maybe it was like a recommendation to somebody

else, but he had several books that he recommended, one of them on Tantric Sacks, one of them on

the Kabbalah and another, um, directly written by Alice or Crowley. And I'm curious if, you know,

given what you know about everything. So Terrick, if you stumbled upon any other connections like

that with the whole Epstein file release, uh, no, actually, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't,

I haven't really been paying much attention to it. Like I've paid some attention to it.

But not much. And again, it's just because I'm like, man, like we knew this stuff was going on.

We knew about it. It's just crazy to see it actually playing out now in, in the public space.

Yeah. But no, man, I haven't seen any of those connections.

Well, something that I know you did cover, uh, relatively recently that I've run into several,

but several points in my life. I remember really early in my interest into all things weird.

You know, talk about this stuff with people who are more on the academic side and they would

recommend Michelle Foucault. And I saw you recently, Henry out, uh, explaining maybe some of

this guy's interests and, uh, why his views were so prolific, maybe some unsavory reasons at that.

But yeah, if we could explore some of what you talked about in that documentary because

oftentimes people prop him up as this like, oh, well, he's a rational philosopher and you should think

like him and somehow in some like long way of, of not addressing the, you know, argument people

will use that as like a, you know, oh, we'll defer to Foucault because you're wrong, but I don't

want to explain to you why you're wrong. So just learn about Foucault and then you'll understand.

I've heard that from several different people in my own.

That's a trip, man. Yeah. It's that I didn't know about it. I did it like,

and referring to those ones I get out is my documentary, um, um, the trans gender, no,

the trans movement. I think the transgender movement, I forgot what it's titled, but, um, it's on

the trans movement. And, um, so I was, I thought his name was Michele, Michele Foucault. How do you

say it? Well, he's French. So I would say Michelle Foucault, that would be.

Michelle Foucault. Yeah, I didn't know how to say it. I'm like, okay. So, um, Michelle Foucault,

yes, for those who don't know, he was a French philosopher. It could just be dumb and thinking it's

like Frencher than it is. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know. I don't know how to say it.

Michele, we'll just say Michelle, whatever. Michelle Foucault, uh, I believe he was from the 70s

onward. Um, but yeah, he was a French philosopher and academic highly esteemed, given a lot of awards

and the universities throughout the world for his work on, um, human morality.

And I would say he's an existentialist, which to me is somebody who, uh, basically just looks

at life through the lens of a human without dogma, uh, which leaves room for a lot of interpretation

because looking at the lens through a human without dogma means the lines of good and evil and

morality are basically non-existent. And you got to make those up on your own. Um,

and he was definitely doing that in his work, uh, to be straight up, he believed that

he believed that pedophilia was okay. He was actually a proud pedophile who protested in France

for the legal age of consent to be lowered, um, which is crazy. He was actually out there with

a megaphone and a sign saying, let me date young girls, you know, like, and him and a bunch of people.

And it's because of their existential worldview. Or sorry, not girls. He wasn't even into girls. He

was into into boys. His thing was young boys. So, and he was, he was proud of this. He wrote about it.

His colleagues knew about it. Apparently from the research that I did, he would spend

summers going out to, uh, I forgot where I put somewhere out there in the Middle East to get like,

young Arabian boys and would smoke like heroin with them and do whoever knows what. And, uh, it was his

belief that love is individual and that, um, as long as a being no matter how old they are,

uh, consents to the love that you are feeling that it's okay. That was his belief. And he argued for

that. And in my documentary, I show that his work was actually the inspiration for what would

become the queer movement in America. That is not conspiratorial. It is fact. The, uh, what, what

is considered, or who was considered the pioneer of the queer movement? Uh, what's her name?

Gail Rubin. Gail S. Rubin. So, Gail S. Rubin is considered the pioneer of the queer movement

in the America, in the United States. And she comes from San Francisco, the Bay Area, of course,

where a lot of that stuff is prominent. And she wrote the, the piece that is considered the,

the pioneering piece of the queer movement. I forgot the name of it is, but it's in my documentary.

And she was inspired by Foucault by Michelle. She, she stated this, you know, she, she quoted

him. She got, she got a lot of inspiration from him. And her famous essay is what would later

turn into the idea of, uh, pronouns, pronouns and, and, and, um, gender being subjective.

I forgot what the actual, um, uh, term is, but the tip, but anyway,

like, what was that? That relative gender relativity? Is that what you're, yeah, there's

another word, but yeah, gender relativity. Um, what's, uh, but that whole concept, that whole

concept that we've seen the past like 10 years of, like, pronouns and gender is a construct.

That's what I was looking for. This, this sentence, this, the saying that we've heard for the past 10

years, gender is a construct. That came directly from Gail S. Rubens essay. She was the first one

in mainstream academia to present that idea of gender being a construct. And she gained her

inspiration from Michelle Foucault as she states. And so, but in that essay, man, you've got to read

that essay. It's, it's these people, they, I'll give, I'll give them this, man, these people are

intelligent, but it's always the intelligent ones that go too far, which is why the serpent in the

garden of Eden wanted us to be, wanted to give us consciousness and intelligence. But, um, so,

she states all of this, which later turns into the queer movement into the transgender movement

and into the political space that we have now, where you need to say people's pronouns,

or you can be fired, stuff like that. She not only predicted that, but also strategically

outlined that plan for the queer movement, because she said in her essay that if we can get

sex and gender to be politicized, rather than being a biological concept, then we will have

the, um, the means to enforce sex and gender policies, because if we can say sex and the idea

of gender is not biological, but mental and political, then we can create a political structure,

which we can enforce, which is what we're seeing now. And she wanted to do that as she states in

her essay, because she wanted to flip the sexual hierarchy that, in her times, had at the top,

same sex, or sorry, not same sex, monogamous marriages. During her time of the 90s, monogamous

marriages of opposite sex was the hierarchy of society. And at the very bottom, as she states,

were pedophiles, at the very bottom of pedophiles, she said she wanted to flip that hierarchy,

and that it would only happen through a slow process of politicizing the concepts of sex and gender.

Yeah, now, what was her motivation for this? Like, what would make her value something that I would

argue most people regard as a crime? You know, why is she valuing that higher than

straight or heterosexual relationships, monogamous relationships? I think she was an angsty

team. And like most angsty teams, they cling on to, uh, fanatical ideas. You know, we, at one

point, we're all teenagers who want to take down the system and change the system. And, you know,

she was from the Bay Area, and she was a part of the burgeoning queer movement. She was a lesbian

herself. And so she identified with that community. She saw her people as being suppressed and oppressed.

And so, yeah, she saw her people, the queer people as being oppressed. And so she wanted to fight

the world and fight the system. And she did a pretty damn good job because her effects have

progressed up until now. So that's the way I see it, man. She was just another angsty team trying

to fight the world. And she just happened to succeed at it because she felt like she was misunderstood

and her people were oppressed. Yeah. Well, and I can see where, you know, a couple of years ago,

it definitely felt like there was, uh, maybe, uh, progressive extremism to that degree where people

were talking about, uh, sex and gender in ways that were, for most people, no, not normal or

shocking. But now we have kind of the opposite where Trump and this whole, you know, regime that's

followed him has kind of, you know, reversed a lot of that. I don't really hear anybody talking

about pronouns anymore, um, in this sort of Hagellian dialect kind of way. It made room for

someone like Trump to come in and exploit people's frustrations with, with all the, you know,

politicization, politicization of sex and gender, you know, he comes in and he kind of

dispels a lot of that. And, you know, again, I'm not advocating for either side because I think

people in the LGBTQ community have rights and they definitely, you know, have a right to exist.

I don't think they have a right to, you know, change laws so that they can, you know, legalize

pedophilia. That's an entirely different conversation all together. But now finding out that Trump

himself might be a pedophile. It's like very clown world, but critical, right? Like everything is

sit down now like, you know, and Trump himself who might even be, uh, you know, someone who's,

I'm not saying he's, he's gay, but he's at least done homosexual things in at least the emails

imply, right? I mean, apparently he, uh, asked Bill Clinton's dick, you know,

yeah, I saw that. What did they call him? Bubba? Yeah. So like, and again, this could just be

political propaganda made, you know, to discredit and, you know, but I don't know, man, it's just,

it's wild to look at all this. It really feels like it's all one agenda and they're just playing

both sides to the extreme so that people give the reaction that they, they want.

Oh, dude, definitely. Have you seen that guy on Instagram who, um, lip syncs, actual Donald Trump

speeches, but like in the context that he's a gay man and like, it just totally sounds super gay

when you hear it from that perspective. Oh, but that, yeah, I get what you're saying. So it's

hilarious, dude. His name is, uh, with the gay, and his pro, yeah, the pro, what up?

No, go ahead. Oh, the profile is, this is, uh, no, no paid promo, but his name is, uh,

Bran Hatton, or Branson Gates, dude, it's freaking hilarious. And not that there's anything wrong

with being gay, you know, I mean, I have gay family members that I love, but it's just hilarious when

like, they're like trying not to be, or you know, like they're just pretending not to be, um,

but yeah, this dude does a hilarious job like when you, he'll hold like lip syncs, Trump's,

Trump's, uh, actual speeches. And there's like pretty sus stuff, dude, he'll be like saying like,

look at that guy over there. He's so muscular. Wow, I've never seen a muscular guy like that.

And so like, why would you even say that? You know, like what the fuck like, and what in what context?

Right. Right. It's just hilarious. This guy does a hilarious comedic job.

That his generation has that sort of sense of humor too, that heirs on being very, uh, they're

somehow very, um, homophobic yet don't realize how sus everything they joke about it. Yeah.

Yeah, man. Uh, yeah, dude, it's a weird world. It's a topsy turvy world.

And usually people are projecting, you know, um, um, going back to the idea that like nobody's in

control. That's kind of a thing that I got from Robert Anton Wilson. I'm sure you're familiar with

him. Um, amazing. I guess you can say a conspiratorial comedian, like he, everything that he did was

do like a psychedelic comedic perspective back in the, I believe, uh, probably eighties or eighties

or nineies. Anyway, he's a cool dude, Robert Anton Wilson, psychedelic comedian, but he wrote a book

called, everything is under control, which is, uh, basically a, what's it called, a dictionary

of conspiracies, like a A to Z dictionary of conspiracies. Um, but he kind of had this idea also that

like, there's always this illusion being upheld of like everything's under control, but it's just like

dystopian, uh, almost Freudian society that we live in, we're like, we're like big, big brother

or the elites are actually the ones that are afraid and the ones who are actually gay in the closet

and say, everything's being projected on us citizens, like all the fear and all the, everything

that's being projected on us is actually coming from the elites because they're the ones who are

actually afraid and the ones who are actually powerless. Yeah, that's a, and it's, that's the

site, the premise of this psychological warfare that they wage on us is like the, you know,

the feeling of hopelessness when you watch the news and you think everything's going to shit,

you know, it's like they're calculating that specifically against you so that they can

stay in the position they're in. Yeah, Robert Anton Wilson's definitely a great resource for

anybody who wants to think outside the box, for sure, because yeah, the, uh, the average person

is just bombarded with this psychological warfare, whether they realize it or not.

Yeah, man, and that's what it is. It's all in your head. It's all in your mind. Reality is an

inside job. Right on. Well said, I think that's a good place to put a pin in it. Eddie,

remind the folks where to follow up with you and what they can expect to find when they do.

For show, man, I just want to say thanks for having me on again. Thank you to all the people.

We love you. Thank you for all the support. Um, you can find me on all social media at

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I got full length documentaries on youtube, a lot of random stuff on instagram, funny stuff,

serious stuff. Um, but yeah, my latest documentary titled the great noticing covers this movement

online of uh, gen zers waking up to Zionism and calling it out and me just analyzing if there's any

truth to what they're saying and if there is what that truth might be.

Right on. Well, I'm going to link that in the episode description for everyone listening.

Follow up with eddie esoteric eddie.tv, right? You still have that website.

dot tv. All the other websites esoteric eddie.com. Yep.

Right on. Well, check that out folks and until next episode,

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