Evan Hovich: Why I Dropped Out of College After One Semester | DSH #1745

Let me tell you right now if you believe that gambling like you're gambling right now and you're I was sports betting

So I was an addicted like blackjack or anything. It was straight parlay. I had a such a mentality of life

I didn't even start straight betting until I was probably down probably

200k just because I wanted to go big right? I didn't care about the you know the even odds

I wanted to win a plus one thousand right? I wanted to hit the jackpot and the craziest part about this type of addiction

Even when you win you're gonna lose all that money again because addicts don't know how to stop and they can't take a win

All right

All right guys first podcast of amfest we got Evan hovich 20-year-old phenom doing six figures a month with his with his

Cleaning business. Thanks for coming on the show man. Yeah bro. What's up man? It's uh it's a good event

I'm happy you made it out here. Yeah. Yeah dude. It's awesome and I came out here a couple of years ago

And then the year before that and I think this year it's gonna be absolutely insane

Obviously with everything that happened with Charlie and just the organization that he's built is phenomenal man

So I'm super pumped for it times or change a man when I was your age. I didn't really follow politics

Yeah, I feel like now it's so ingrained with our lifestyle, you know

Absolutely. Yeah. How were you in politics at a pretty young age?

Well being a business owner and starting young. I think you kind of have to be right

But in terms of like my

How I relate to politics and exactly how involved I am I think just seen the things that have been evolving over the years

Just kind of all the traumatic things all the thing going on with the economy in the world and just all the absolute terror going on in the world

I think it's made me want to pursue it more. No just because

I mean I'm a true believer that

If you say nothing or do nothing you can't really be upset about what happens right if you're not really contributing

So that's big for me. Yeah, a lot of people don't speak out right. Yeah, I think it's important

So you're 20 but you dropped out of college right so 22. Yeah 22

Yeah, 22. I just turned 22 and I dropped out of college went for about a semester

So you were a freshman

Yeah, I did I did one semester and then I spoke to one of my entrepreneurship professors

And I said what business do you run? Yeah, and he said I never ran a business before so I knew that

Relatable this is not something that I want to pursue absolutely. I had to with my marketing professor really

Yeah, I was like I'm out bro. I'm out. I can't because you already have something going for you at that point or at the time

I had so back when I was in college drop shipping was a hot thing. Yeah, so that's how I started with you

It's remote cleaning, right? Yeah, so it's a little different but I got into remote cleaning a little bit later

But you know, I was doing what every young kid does marketing right social media marketing

Build it up sites

That's my may, but obviously that sounds sustainable. I got into remote cleaning sales that kind of stuff and it's absolutely changed my life

So I want to learn more about that. So remote cleaning. Could you explain what that is?

Yeah, so essentially the wave remote cleaning works is you're just a broker. Okay, so you're just a middleman in the entire operation

So, you know, you generate the leads you find contractors that are going to do the work and you just put the two pieces together

So you generate a lead on let's say Google lead comes in one of my clients just told me he got a FedEx warehouse for

$40,000 a month. So they called him off Google

He's got that job for 40k a month

He'll contract out people to go do the job and plot probably split it around 50 50 with them

Wow, so it's almost like drop shipping, but with with cleaning. Yeah, I think the best

Term to use this drop-service thing drop-service yeah drop-service thing exactly and how are you finding the cleaners?

So you find the cleaners on just indeed next door

You can put up posters. I mean they're everywhere, but obviously you have to be careful

Some a lot of them are illegal immigrants and with contractors if you hire an illegal immigrant

Yeah, and you bring them somewhere and they fuck up where they do something

You know that liability is going to fall back on you so you have to have some sort of insurance or some sort of yeah

Insurance background tracks, but the great part about the contractor model is the contractors carry their own insurance

They bring their own supplies to the job. You're not liable. You're not liable, right?

So you're just a broker. You're taking all that liability away from nice

Yeah, I mean, I paid my cleaner

Almost a thousand just to clean my house really once a month. Yeah, that's sick because the bigger the house

Obviously like and who wants to clean their own home? So it's the boring businesses

I feel like that no one ever thinks about like to be honest to this day

I don't know anything about cleaning absolutely nothing

But you don't need to right you're just basically finding something that's in demand and putting the pieces together

Essentially and you go off to primary residential or commercial buildings. So

Residential so my company that I sold it was mostly residential commercial as well

But the students that I teach we do both got it. So you you're already sold a company. I sold the company. Yeah wow

That that's very fat. Yeah, yeah, so you started this at what age?

I started the remote cleaning business at 19 sold it at 20 years old

And then have built RCI which stands for the remote cleaning institute about it

We've been in business for about a year and a half have over a thousand members

All around the country and

And yeah, man, it's been insane my students were making millions of dollars a month and lives are being transformed every day

Dude, that's insane. Yeah, when you were scaling this thing because I know you yourself had a remote cleaning business

That's scaled to six figures a month. Yeah, was that pretty quick or did it take some some time?

So it took me six months to get to that point, but

The thing with the remote cleaning business

You don't have to be that smart to scale it up early fast because think about who's in demand of your services literally everybody, right? So

And that's why you want to gear more towards the commercial side of things because it's a lot more expensive

People are nitpicking like if it's your home and someone didn't clean the toilet like you're gonna you're gonna know

You're gonna care right because that's your space, yeah

But especially with these commercial jobs warehouses the convention centers like the one we're in

If the cleaner misses something on the floor nobody's gonna notice, right?

It's someone's secretary usually swiping a card. I can't imagine what the center costs to clean

Yeah, it's gotta be low. Oh, bro stupid amount of money insane amount of money. It's got what would you guess for a convention center?

Just like like a like to clean on a daily basis for a month and events here and they have to clean it up after for the next event

Oh, man

To clean this entire convention center after an event for a new event

I would say probably about maybe five to seven K. Wow probably five to seven K. Yeah, I

I thought to be honest. Well, you have to understand with the convention center like this

It's a lot of just floors, right? So you're pretty much just cleaning the floors the things that takes the longest are the bathrooms

That's the best part about being a broker is you know, you kind of figure out estimates and how the price works

But you're not actually doing any of the cleaning. Yeah

So if I was trying to get their business

I would just see who's doing it and see what they're charging and then try to undercut them maybe

Yeah, well, I mean just like with every service right and every business

There's more expensive and then there's less expensive yeah

I think that the biggest thing is building something so valuable and having so much conviction and what you do

But ultimately this is a business where there's plenty enough to go around for everyone

I mean, I don't have that mindset as a business owner, but yeah, that's the reality, right?

There's so many people that are in need of services

So it's just a really awesome industry to be in. I love them

All right, so we talked business. Let's dive into politics a little bit. Let's do it, bro

So have you always been conservative or did you grow up liberal?

So I didn't really have any type of like political view really growing up

I grew up pretty much most of my life single mom

She married a man. He was pretty abusive. So I really only had a single mom growing up and

I

Got into politics because I got into business early. I started my business at 15 years old

Moved out of my house in high school actually got my sister to

Coastline on the lease for me when I was 17 years old

So I haven't been in politics forever, but I really got interested in it probably around 17 years old

Okay, yeah, and you were conservative right off. I thought yeah, dude 100%

The read what really brought me to be coming a conservative was not necessarily the politics

It was the people and also we are in America

If you don't like this country, you don't have to be here, right leave right we don't want you here

This is a country. This is the best country in the world

We have all we have problems just like every single nation in the world

But this is the best country in the world and I'm a big advocate for if you're going to complain about how things are

I mean obviously to the degree it's normal to have opinions

But if you genuinely hate this country get the fuck out bars bars

I think people complaining a lot of them I see don't have international travel experience

Yeah, you know what I mean? So their only perspective on life is being in America

Yeah, and you just brought up a really good point

Traveling has changed everything for me and I'll tell you why I've been to many third world countries

Where I mean two that come to mind are Bali and Nicaragua

And I spend a lot of times in the communities there these families are poor. They are dirt poor

They love each other. They live together. They have great values

They don't lie to each other

It's the things that we take for grants in America. We don't realize how privileged and lucky we are

Imagine having a house cold income of 500 USD a month in a place like Nicaragua and having to feed an entire family on that

I'm obviously cost of living is different but

People there are so much more grateful for what they actually have so that's interesting when I travel

I stay in nice ass resorts and bought like for Bali for example

But you were staying with the locals

Yeah, I mean I've stayed at resorts

But I prefer staying with the locals just because to me like there's two types of travel right there's going on

Vacation and then there's actually exploring and getting to know culture and etc

I prefer option B because it gives you a lot of insight. I feel up

Yeah, like part of me when I go to Mexico and I don't like leave the resort yeah part of me is like damn

This is this actually Mexico. Yeah, or can I just go to this resort in any country?

Well, I don't know if you want to leave the resort there to believe you know that was go. I had terrible a gamble

But Bali for example, is it safe just being out and about there? Yeah, I mean

Define the words safe. I mean people are worried about traveling to these other countries

But Chicago, New York is it really safe? That's a good point. Is it safe? Vegas where I'm at

Yeah, and we're gonna talk about gambling because I know you got a story there

But even Vegas parts of Vegas you walk out at night. It gets sketchy. Yeah, you know absolutely

But being in Vegas and I know you have the gambling eviction was that were you going to Vegas a lot?

Where you know, dude, so actually I got into gambling when I was 14 years old obviously I couldn't gamble at that time

My I guess you could say step down at the time my mom's husband

Um, he started doing fandal and he would get me in on it

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Obviously, I couldn't gamble at that time. I didn't understand the true consequences

Then as I got older and as I started making more money and

When I would kind of go through different trials in my life

I found that that was my resort of dopamine and let me tell you right now

If you believe that gambling like you're gambling right now and you're I was sports betting

So I was an addict. It's like blackjack or anything. It was straight parlay's I had light parlay

Lays are the worst and dude. I had a such a mentality of like

I didn't even start straight betting until I was probably down probably

200k holy just because I wanted to go big right? I didn't care about the you know the even odds

I wanted to win a plus one thousand right?

I wanted to hit the jackpot and the craziest part about this type of addiction

Even when you win

You're gonna lose all that money again because addicts don't know how to stop and they can't take a win right?

It's like can you go to casino win and walk out and be happy

My mentality I couldn't do that and even you know when I would win

I've won you know 40 50 60k multiple times. I was way during millions of dollars over my time gambling and

Every single time I lost

Even if I withdrew to my bank account that money would be right back in there 24 hours later again

That's us. What was the craziest parlay you've hit?

Oh, dude, uh, I don't even know man

The most I've had a hundred acts or the most I've ever won in the single bet was like 90k

um

But like I said dude I I don't even I've gambled so much in my life

It was like you know the Korean baseball F or M right? It's like this shit

You don't even know about the table tennis. I'm sitting there and one thing also about an addict is they will always find a way right

I ban myself on every single sports book that I start

Start having to go to like the offshore offshore gambling accounts because I ban myself on everything

But an addict will always find a way

So my advice for anyone listening to this if you have a gambling addiction fucking stop

Yeah, because right now like you know, I'm not married or anything. So really it's only affecting me

But especially when you have a family and I know you're married now. It's like you're affecting more than one person

It changes your mood. It changes your finances. It changes your whole life. You become kind of a zombie to it

Um, so it's pretty crazy good advice. There was actually a study recently

I don't know if you saw but a lot of those obscure sports like Chinese ping pong or whatever like the stuff

You were talking about a lot of those are rigged really yeah for like gambling purposes

Because there's no money. Those athletes are barely making anything. Yeah, so if they were good game

They could make 10,000 bucks. Yeah, and which is a lot to them. I mean, they're doing it in the in the NBA

Exactly like at the highest level shaving

I don't know if you saw a recent example of that picture. Yeah, I forgot his name

But uh, so if it's happening there it's happening in random sports that you're better. Yeah, you know 100 percent

But I mean that part of my life is over

Thank God. It's over. I you know last podcast. I was on I said I lost around 400k gambling

right after

That podcast actually was curious how much I actually lost because I thought that was around and that's actually inaccurate

I probably lost closer to 650 holy crap

$650,000 and this was all in a span that core money was probably in a span of six months

That's not so 100k a month. You were bleeding about and my business was making anywhere from 100 to 150k

I'm once so all the cleaning money a lot of the things I was making well in my coaching program

So um all like a lot of the money I was making was going to gambling

Um, but thankfully, you know, I had other sources of income

I had a lot of money saved up and I invested properly. Yeah, so it never took me out completely

And thank God it never took me out completely because you know

I'm very blessed that

I was able to get myself out of that

But the biggest thing I will say is

Realization and taking action or two different things you can realize you have a problem

But if you do nothing about it nothing will change right and that's one of your issues right

So you don't like people that don't take action

I don't like people that also don't take true accountability um because

At the end of the day, it's always your fault

And I know your business owner like if something happens in your business or in your life

If you don't blame yourself, who are you gonna blame? What does that do for you blame yourself always?

I think that's a massive point

Is always take accountability even if it's not your fault quote unquote

I learned that from Tate actually really yeah

He was the first one I saw talk about this because I used to victim blame

I used to blame others yeah, and there's no growth in that no even if it was their fault

You're still like part of it. You know what I mean? Yeah, we take some sort of accountability on a resound

You also have an issue with atheists

So that's a that's an interesting topic

So I don't necessarily have an issue with atheists at all. I have a bunch of atheist friends

But here's what I truly believe I truly believe godless people are the scariest people and here's why

If you have no belief in God where your where's your moral compass coming from right?

Do I believe you could still be a good person atheist 100% but if you have no

Source of of God in your life

What is right and what is wrong?

Like think about it like terrorists, right

Do they believe what they're doing is right? Absolutely where are they getting their morals from?

I mean a lot of the things that are happening in this country

You know

Where are their morals coming from? I hope it's not society because if your morals are coming from society

You know, you're gonna start dressing up as a fucking dog walking around the side of a huck of Phoenix

Yeah, if your morals come from society

Yeah, I guess you could easily be influenced that way too, right? Yeah, you're gonna follow whatever's trending

Absolutely whatever movements hot. Yeah, and then you're gonna just be bouncing around you have no actual opinion of your own

Yeah, for sure I agree with that

What was the other hot take you had

Godless people was that all of them?

so

Yeah, I mean we can talk about college

Yeah, we kind of touched on that yeah, do you think college is a scam like Charlie Kirk did

College is a scam depending on what you want to do. I would never want my doctors to not have you know a million years of education, but

especially if you're gonna be a business owner of the best

Learning and educational opportunities you can have is by doing the thing right getting experience hiring mentors

But absolutely colleges of scam

You don't need four years to figure it out. You need to get to work, right? And that's the one thing I can't stand about

Lazy people is lazy people want the most and they don't want to work for it

How do you do with lazy people as a boss do you just fire? I don't work with them

I absolutely will never work with a lazy person and you could catch up on it real quick

Because I mean if someone's lazy number one. They don't actually care about what they're doing

And then they want everything

And that's why you know, I like to hire actually a lot of offshore talent

Because like going back to that point before people overseas are much harder workers and a lot of Americans are I feel like are entitled

Overall now obviously there's a bunch of incredible American workers and

etc. But I like people that are gonna work hard and not expect things that they don't deserve

Have you seen the studies on lazy people in IQ tell me about it. So it's like a curve

So like if you're

Stupid you're usually lazy

But then it kind of goes up and then actually when you're really smart like you're really high IQ

Yeah, you can use your brains to get by and be lazy. I guess it starts dropping interesting

I think the sweet spots like not genius, but that's not like stupid. What do you what about you? Would you work with a lazy person?

Depends how lazy because I guess it's relative. Yeah, I think a lazy. I think of like someone on the couch eating potato chips, but

In in general notes. I think you are who you surround yourself with so I want to be around ambitious people

So probably not it's wouldn't be my first choice. Yeah, absolutely, you know

What's next to you though bro? Where could people watching this sign up for your program?

So I mean, I do a bunch of different things

Hi, but webinar on January 8th at 7 30 pm Eastern time. They can go to my website remote cleaning institute.com

You can also find me on instagram at at evan hovich evan last name hovi ich

But yeah, man, we're just building. We're scaling changing lives and really building out a mission and creating opportunity for people

Because that's one of the best parts about this country and being at an event like this

There are so many opportunities take advantage of it and you know, one thing I do want to talk about as well is

people that

You know come from different backgrounds my family are immigrants, right? My mom's from Russia. That's from Ukraine

They came from there immigrated here to the United States

I grew up in a one bathroom apartment with a single mom to once other sister at that time

You know, you create the opportunities now are some people place in better environments where maybe they have a little bit more access

100 percent

But if you want something bad in life, you can do it right get off 2k get off the xbox and 2k is fun, right?

4 nights you know 4 nights fun too, but you know get off the game and go do something and you know

Have fun when you've made it have fun when you've done something to be proud of you know

Don't be that person sitting on the couch eating potato chips. Do you think you should sacrifice the funness in your early years?

So no, I don't completely agree with that because you need to have some sort of balance, right?

If you don't have balance and what's the point of living in a sense, right? So

One time someone told me that you know, make the money first and then go have fun

I agree with that to an extent, but you need to also be living life

You know while you're doing these things experiencing etc

Because you never want to be that guy that spent you know 40 years of his life literally slaving away at his own

Job to become a billionaire his kids hate him his wife hate him his family hates him

Nobody likes him. He's fucked over a lot of people along the way. Yeah, you never want to be that person

I agree when I was your age. I probably sacrificed a few years of fun. Yeah, I gave up video games

You know drinking partying all that stuff. Yeah, fight to do it over again. I would live a more balanced approach

Yeah, have you transformed your life in the way you want it to be 100% now. I'm like

It's still a work in progress. I love work. I'm addicted to work. Yeah, but I

I don't work weekends as much anymore. What do you think about work keeps you addicted?

The chase chase the chase man. I'm not stopping till I'm the number one show in the world. Oh, right. Give me some

For that. Yeah, it's all about the chase. That's why when you make it. It's actually

You do a mental health issues. Yeah

What do you feel like when you say make it like

What do you define as making it? It's different in every industry

I think in the podcasting space it would be just to sell the show or get acquired by a network. Yeah

But when I made it originally it was becoming a millionaire. Yeah becoming self-sufficient. Yeah

100% and

Talking about becoming self-sufficient, you know, especially when you have a family

I believe that as a man it is your responsibility to be able to provide and take care of your family

and I mean, I have a lot of

You know support and I care a lot about people that obviously raise families and and even if the you know

If the wife is the one working and the man is saying care of the kids like bless him and that's an awesome situation

I mean, but I think inherently as a man we should have the ability to provide you know

I think men that are threatened by women that are essentially maybe

Doctors or have very are very high up in their professions

I think that's they're insecure and that's an awful thing to be

But I just think inherently as a man you should be able to provide. Yeah

And being the position to provide you know, especially if you want to have a family

I think there's too many people out there that are not taking their life serious enough

And are in a position where they're depending too much on external sources versus

Taking action building something on their own. I have a bit in the dating market for a while obviously

But yeah, I've heard crazy things about that like what's been your experience over the years in terms of just woman ideology

This whole toxic masculinity movement feminism. Yeah, so I don't believe there's such thing as toxic masculinity

Being a man is an awesome thing and being a woman is an awesome thing

And I think that we all should embrace that toxic masculinity comes from you know

Liberals

Think just I mean, I don't think there's anything else to say liberals not

Not liking men for being men and what happens to that because at the end day if someone's gonna break into your home

And you're a woman who is going to protect you a man. You know now

There are obviously a few circumstances where that is not the case

But the man is gonna protect you buy our DNA buyer build. We are genetically made up to be stronger faster

You know, we're we're just different builds women are a lot better than us in some things and we're a lot better and other things

But the fact that people

Say you are too manly or you're too much of a man is bullshit. Yeah, facts man. Well, dude. We'll link your stuff below

Thanks for time man. Yeah, absolutely man. Check them out guys peace

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